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The difference between HoloEN and NijiEN is ridiculously one-sided.
But NijiEN has volume.

>> No.50048870

>>50048845
>1%
>Volume

>> No.50049032

>>50048845
>Quality vs quantity

>> No.50049209

>>50048845
yep but I'd rather watch 1-2 streams, tho having options are good, idk if its good the talents tho.

>> No.50049418

>>50048845
I mean yeah. That's literally their business model. Throw out a bunch of mediocre streamers and don't bother building them up or giving them room to breathe. Theyll likely do okay, but not great. It works from a business standpoint, but it's bullshit for the actual liver. If not for the Zaion yab I would have 100% expected at least 2 more waves to flood NijiEN. Now I'm only 70% sure that will happen.

>> No.50049446

>>50048845
>>50048554
>bait got mostly ignored in numberfag thread
>posts on catalog instead to get more (You)s
Suck a cock

>> No.50049522

>>50049418 (me)
Furthermore, I used to hate the quantity vs quality argument, because obviously there had to be some level of quality control in order to pass the auditions. Despite the insane number of livers on the JP side, I do still think it's true for them, for the most art. But EN? It's very evident they just wanted to flood the market with minimal regard for quality.

>> No.50049949

>>50048845
OK true here's the thing though.
Which of these individual talents do you personally watch & like? Who do you have a vested interest in seeing succeed?
Cuz unless you're a shareholder in eneekara the fact that Niji's might of a billion-billion beings adds up to more clicks doesn't... matter? It's a soulless mindless corporation. So's Hololive. Why do you care?

>> No.50050172

>>50049949
Actually; correction. I threw in "so's Hololive" solely to emphasize that I'm not a tribalfag and have no console wars bias.
...But unless I'm mistaken.
Doesn't Hololive's soulless mindless corporate structure nonetheless include a money-pot system to subsidize lagging talents with the overachieving talents' profits? If so that's at least a reason for fans to want to see any/every Holo talent succeed, since it'll directly imburse their specific oshii.
If Niji has the same thing then sure correct me. Doesn't sound like something they would though, given their known policies.

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50050368

>>50049522
The rot started with Ethyria but all of the hires were all pretty good until Luxiem, Noctyx were the nail in the coffin where they just said "fuck it, push people out as fast as we can before the fad dies over there"
Also fuck, even with quality hires it feels like whatever's happening behind the scenes made everyone's content take a nose dive anyway except Pomu who has some good moments here and there and Rosemi who is an underrated comedy genius

>> No.50050435

>>50049522
Especially after the fired the only good one of the last 6.

>> No.50050499

>>50050435
doppio has some funny moments and he was the only one to not come out with some gay-ass grandstanding statement against Zaion but i don't watch dudes

>> No.50050836

>>50050499
NGL, I can't tell you a damn thing different between Doppio & Ver. I only even remember their names cuzza the alliteration.
Granted I've avoided any clips with them since debut too. But that's a symptom of gen fatigue; I'm comfortable not knowing more about them and don't feel the need to add that knowledge to my mental trivia checklist.

>> No.50050891

>2 streams a day vs 20 streams a day
it's one sided alright

>> No.50050975

>>50050891
more volume = more profit for the company
but it's less money per-streamer, much harder work for them too. The fanbase is so divided they are all fighting for scraps while the company saturates itself on volume.

>> No.50051122

>>50049446
Cope and seethe

>> No.50051214

only works on days when Kiara isn't streaming, her TotK streams max out at around 2.9k to 3k

>> No.50051280

>>50051122
Neck yourself kiwifarms numberniggers.

>> No.50051637

>>50048845
>But NijiEN has volume
so do rats in the sewers, why dont you go watch them too

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>>50051637
They don't spend 50+hrs a week being funny and cute while playing JRPGs for my my entertainment.

>> No.50051768

>>50049522
>nijijp debut 2 gen in less than a month last month.
Debut goes BRRRRRR

>> No.50051807

>>50050836
Same, i always confuse the both of them

>> No.50053070

>>50048870
fpbp

>> No.50053499

>>50049032
Quantity is a quality of its own. Just think of Nijisanji as macas and Hololive as proper restaurant

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>>50048845
Nijisanji over-flooded their market.
If they want to save the shithole that's NijiEN branch, they need to kick Luxiem + Hex to Bilibili, graduate all SHITyria and half of SHITluna with the exception of Maria, Ren and Scarle, pull a Yugo on Covid Fungus as an apology for being the kickstarter of yab hell. Lump Floptyx + Ren as their stand alone male EN group and have Tempiss for collab spam with them.

>> No.50053919

>>50048845
this need to go to nijicope list

>> No.50053984

>>50053725
It's weird though how people paint this as a problem with losing the western audience when the ones that have been hit the hardest on viewership are those that were trying their hardest to appeal to Chinese women for the most part. Luxiem dropped anywhere between 5-7k off their viewership numbers while the girls have lost like maybe 500-1k viewers depending on who it is.

>> No.50054233

>>50053984
I dunno what Luxiem did to lose the interest of those Chinese women to be honest. Maybe it's like with Holo JP like back in coco just debuted day their chats were flooded with english comments and not so much anymore, there's only so long most people can watch people they can barely understand without getting bored of it unless they're converted to hard gachikoi.

>> No.50054290

>>50054233
And while HoloJP managed to replace those EN viewers with organic Japanese growth the same hasn't really happened with Luxiem replacing those Chinese viewers, there never was and still isn't much of a market for male vtubers in the west.

>> No.50056158

>>50048845
Despite being only 1% of the streaming population...

>> No.50056224

>>50051637
but i do watch rats....

>> No.50056285

>>50048845
I find hilarious how Kronii pulls more than Fauna's return.
Denouncing unicorns is the way to go

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