/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

You're telling me that a Vtuber plays up to a character?

>>4985858
orange

>>4985858
Of course she does. Gura's great, but it's clear that acting dumb is part of her persona.

>>4985858
It's all an act bro. Stop sending ethots your vbucks.

>>4985858
>it feels like she's playing a character
I have bad news for you

>>4985858
Imagine tweeting once a week apart from announcements etc., pre stream reminder/after stream thank you and it's this crap.

>>4985858
Gura is not genuine with her viewers anymore.

>>4985858
No. And you should take your med.

A thread died for this.

>>4985988
>Anymore
Anon...

>>4985921
Or was it the color that was named after the fruit?

A real CHICKEN egg situation, huh?

Black berries

>>4985921
It's the reverse in this case, the color is named after the fruit, rather than the fruit being named after the color.

>>4985858
Fake tweet that was posted on reddit

>>4986097
I stopped watching Gura after she told that she will be honest about any bullshit, and then just went along with Cover's censorship. Words rigging and rig are still banned in her chat you know. Gura did not mention her shitty rigging even once while clearly knowing that it was terrible.
I can't stand her anymore to be honest.

>>4985858
I will agree that part of her character is playing dumb to avoid talking about things as a way to deflect.
Also she often talks or have the routine to make fun of herself, hence the dumb sticker on her forehead.
I still love her nonetheless.

>>4985887
Yes. Obviously Vtubers do change personality but it shouldn't be so extreme. Look at Ame. Even though she stays in character, it never feels like she saying forcing what she's saying. Her speech feels organic like she would say the same thing to anyone else.

Gura on the other hand feels like she's playing a character and not talking from the heart. Her speech sounds forced and so i can't like her because it feels disingenuous. This critique is probably very applicable to cali too.

>>4985858
No, because it's part of the cunny package.

>>4985858
Imagine being an adult in your 20s and pretending to be a stupid little girl.

>>4985858
>it feels like she's playing a character
Yes hello, welcome to VTubers, enjoy your stay.

>>4986486
i think it goes a lot further. I think a lot of the times gura fails at math is on purpose. And so it's not just a clever deflection but a much bigger part of her personality.

>>4985858
>I feel like gura often acts stupid on purpose.
No shit? We know. She knows we know. We know she knows we know. There's nothing deceptive there, unless you happen to be <90 IQ and didn't understand that.

>>4987259
Your misrepresenting my point.

Other vtubers act a character, that's not the problem. It's that guras acts rather than just being nornal and acting organically. Her speech is often forced and it shows. It's not a good quality to pretend to be stupid to be more likable. It's ultimatly really cringey and not really funny because we know it's disingenuous. That's just my opinion though.

>>4985988
This cheeky little brat is making fun of us...

>>4985858
>It doesn't feel genenuine.
>expecting sincerity from filthy western whores
WEW LAD

>>4985858
>I feel like gura often acts stupid on purpose.
>>4987827
She's hiding her powerlevel from room temp iq normies like you. If at any point, ever, you thought she's stupid, then know she pretends to be dumb just for the folk like you to digest.

>>4988245
>She's hiding her powerlevel from room temp iq normies like you
Her entire viewership is full of normalfags and actual children.

>>4986464
>I stopped watching a corporation employee after the corporation employee was doing the job the company told the employee to do, and follow the company's contract, even though I want her to break the company's contract and risk the breach of contract

>>4988303
then you'll fit right in

>>4988303
You didn't have to confirm my point, but thanks nonetheless.

>>4988462
>>4988432
That's right I love gura. cunny

>>4988396
Literal corporate slave

>>4985858
but you get blue berries AND black berries

>>4988797
Go and watch indies, then.

>>4986464
what is rigging?

>>4989328
Not much rigger, what's up with you?

>>4988245
>She's hiding her powerlevel from room temp iq normies like you. If at any point, ever, you thought she's stupid, then know she pretends to be dumb just for the folk like you to digest.

I don't get why your so bitter. The point isn't whether or whether not you think she's actually stupid. The question is whether it is a good trait for a V-tuber to over-act their character.

>>4989328
13% of vtubers are responsible for 50% of yabs.

>>4986742
Gura is more honest than Luna

>>4985858
Nonsense, next thing you will say is that Ame acts like a gremlin and Calli acts like cringe boomer.

>>4990240
>I don't get why your so bitter
I'm bitter because you retards cannot even tell the difference between "your" and "you're." Having any discourse here is legitimately impossible thanks to fucks like you.

>>4985858
Well she claims she doesn't pretend to be stupid so whatever.

I think she's kind of dumb but plays it up a lot for laughs, but people think she's actually a super genius actress for some reason

>>4986517
Maybe im just too far gone, but i watch literally every one of her streams and i dont see that much of a difference. It doesnt seem like shes outright dumb, moreso that shes just oblivious a lot of the time or is very one track minded. I dont think that she thinks very hard about most of the things shes doing. Either way the content works for me so i dont really care.

gura obviously has been playing 4d chess since day one. her pretending to be retarded is supposed to be a subtle self-ironic humor, unfortunately her audience (or the loud part of it) is genuinely retarded and fails to notice it

>>4985858
Based off whenever she has to learn things like, ttrpg, it seems she is legit kinda slow

Gura is not acting a character as "dumb"
She is acting a character that "acts dumb"
Pretend to be stupid is part of her character, 4d chess right here.

>Cute and innocent act slips and she goes on a rant about how some dude gave her a weird look for wanting a juicebox as an adult and lectured her audience about "how to talk to women"

Aaaaaaand unsubbed. All you had to do was act silly and play video games.

>>4986742
Unironically hot.

>>4994309
When was this?

>>4985858
Gura's sharp as an edgelord's blade. The "smol brain" shit is just because she never cared for academics. What she lacks in that area is more than made up for with wit so remarkable a lot of people can't even see it.

She inspires me every day. I've never been so intoxicated by a woman in my life.

>>4994709
RE2:R finale.

>>4994812
Tbh I also believe he is quite smart in a sense but nothing too serious for you to "get inspired". There are a lot of inspiring people, she isn't the best choice.

>>4994309


uuuoooooooh tiny adult gura wants ringo juice TuT

>>4995044
>There are a lot of inspiring people, she isn't the best choice.
She is for me. If I explained why you'd call it a rrat, and maybe it is, but there's a lot going on under that big smile. She gets me out of bed in the morning and makes me WANT to change myself.

>>4995183
I guess do what's best for you. Just try not to develop an addiction or something.

>>4986742
She gets paid to do so.

>It doesn't feel genuine
Her Nyanners/Lilypichu ass voice didn't give that away?

She plays up being dumb in the way people do with their friends, not in an overly deceptive milking-nerds-for-momey way but because so many of you are ASD gang it flies over your heads and you think it's played legit

>>4986064
Threads here aren't worth saving anyways.

>>4985858
>genenuine
they're literally all playing characters, that's the point.

>>4986207
Only half true. "Orange" was already the name of a color, but that color was closer to what we now call red. The fruit was named after the color, but the original orange (color) slowly fell out of favor, and was replaced by a new orange (color) which matched the fruit more closely.

She had a massive meme persona in her other life so the acting dumb is a way to self censor herself so she doesn't slip back into meme gremlin mode

>>4985858

Dude, even Gura said that she played dumb on the reaction stream to her debut. As long as everybody is having fun, is fine.

>>4985858
Gura is genuinely a bit of a ditz, but she also has great comedic timing and she knows when and how to play it up.

>>4995375
>Just try not to develop an addiction or something.
Too late for that. I can't imagine life without her and I don't want to. If there were a 0% chance of a future where she's in my life forever I'd convince myself there's a 0.0000001% chance. She tied love and hope together for me and I'll keep them bound together until I can't anymore.

>>4996610
unironically go to therapy.

>>4985921
>>4986207
>>4996147
huh, I never knew that.

>>4996797
Therapy's not useful when you've read enough Freud and Jung to know all their tricks.

>>4996797
I have a therapist her name is Gura it's not working

>>4992417
your acting retarded

>>4994309
That's because she felt insecure about asking for a juice box. Gura projects all the time.

>>4998224
She would not have gone out of her way to indirectly insult every male viewer watching if she had thought she was in the wrong for asking for a juicebox as an adult.

>>4998392
Sure she would, that's her way of coping. I don't have the timestamp but go listen to the entire context of the story. It was just her side of the story but for all we know she mumbled about wanting a juice box and the guy didn't know what she asked for. I doubt some min wage grocery worker gives enough of a fuck to antagonize her over a juice box.
That shit she said about how he should stand up straight and give her a smile was cringe.

>>4997051
>Going to psychoanalysis sessions

Noob, you go to cognitive-behavioral psychiatrists and get actually results.

Wait there are fags here that get upset by jokes? twitter really hits everywhere

>>4998558
I think you misunderstood my post, we are actually in agreement concerning the context of the rant.

>>4998859
Oh yeah, I get you.

>>4985858
So what your saying is that gura is Lex luthor?

>>4998810
Yes, we here at /vt/ take great pride in getting upset by everything.

No, I will NOT take my meds.

Am I being played like a fool?
T.chumbud

>>4999691
If it makes you happy then what does it matter?

>>4985858

The shark clearly copied Cirno's act as Cirno is the smartest yet pretends to be dumb so others don't feel stupid around her.

>>5000000
The 2hus...

>>5000000
based get

oh no no /vt/ bros
/jp/ won

>>5000000
lmao absolute garbage get

>>5000000
wasted get

>>5000000
>>>/jp/

>>5000000
I WILL NEVER FORGET THE 2HUS

>>5000000
FUCKING CIRNO
GODDAMN IT
based

>>5000000

>>5000000
/jp/ won....

>>5000000
Wasted.

>>5000000
back to /jp/ I guess

>>5000000
NIGGERINO

>>5000000
Fuck yeaaaaa

>>5000000
AAAAA I WILL NOT LEARN JAPANESE
>>>/jp/

>>5000000
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU

>>5000000
THE 2HUS STRIKE BACK

>>5000000
Baka fairy, you're off by one

>>5000000

>>5000000
Should've killed you when we had the chance.

>>5000000
Based

>>5000000
Fuck you nigger wasted

>>5000000
2HUS OUT

>>5000000
>Cirno got the GET
based

>>5000000
I guess the 2hus won after all kek

>>5000000
Shut up David.

>>5000000
Looks like you didn't learn your lesson 2hu

>>5000000
Fucking hell anon I salute you.
But Cirno > Gura

>>5000000
Put me in the screenshot

>>5000000
/jp/sies go back!!!!!!!!!!

>>5000000
TOUHOU REVENGE ARC LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5000000
the 2hoes..

>>5000000
>off by 1

>>5000000
Put me in the screencap

>>5000000
I just got linked here from some post on a Chinese rrat thread so I literally don't belong here at all but sure. Put me in the screenshot or whatever.

>>4994309
You're a massive retard

>>4999999

>deleted
stay cucked 2huniggers

jannies are fags

>>5000000
The strongest!

>>4985858
It feels like her purposely acting stupid was a Chinese mandate to make westerners looks stupider than they meme them to be.

>>5000000
>deleted
Jannies confirmed faggots.

>>5001077
>>5000205
>>5000159
>>5000123
BASED BAKA CHADS

>>5000000
MIMA LOVE!

>>5000000
we never left

>>4985858
50/50
She's obviously acting for some part, but I think the acting part got slowly to her real self so sometimes she's being dumb without even realizing it.

>>4985858
I have some pretty bad ADD. My working memory is in the 37th percentile, which is about 4%ile away from being considered as mentally handicapped. On the other hand the rest of my mental abilities are in the 95%ile or above. I make those kinds of mistakes pretty often because my brain processes significantly faster than my working memory is capable of handling. So her consistently making those kind of "dumb" mistakes despite being "smart" in other areas is not necessarily indicative of her playing a dumb character.

Remember when Gura would make a joke and wink at the audience? Them days are GONE. Also based janny dunking on the 2whos

>>4994309
I expected some weird feminist rant from what you wrote but it was nothing like that
https://youtu.be/agXlzwEGrWU?t=1190

>>4985858
its her character anon. there are moments where its obvious shes just pretending to be dumb (look at kiara 1 to 6 clip)

>>4987827
>thats just my opinion though
/thread

>it feels like she's playing a character

this nigga thought all those vtubers act like themselves

>>4985858
Yeah, no shit. Do you think she can't read or do basic math for real? It's done to make her look cuter.

>>5002038
>Lecture about how to talk to women
>It's her just giving general "have confidence" advice.

>>4996858
before oranges the color was called yellow-red. but thanks to that fruit, we were given new color names like red-orange and yellow-orange

>>5002038
>>5006339
>schizo misrepresents something to try and cause drama
just another day on /vt/

>>5006339
>>5002038
rrats are getting really lazy lately. It is as if psyopfags did not care about us!

>>5000000
>one off
cheeriobros......

>>5001077
jannies couldn't handle such a powerful post

>>5002038
> Stand up straight
> But not too straight
> Practice in front of a mirror so it looks natural
>But don't think about it too much
> Just be confident
> If you're not confident, you'll have to fake it
> But be yourself and act naturally
How do humans ever reproduce

>>4994309
I dont get it, why are you upset?

>>5006964
This is unironically not a bad advice if you decode it from the shark-speak. What she is trying to tell you here is that you should not package any expectations into your interaction. And probably lift too.

>>5006964
The truth is most people don't know what they're doing and are just winging it. Such is life

>>5006964
Attractive people learn this naturally from a young age through positive feedback loops. Ogres and autists either do their reps until they make it, or do not reproduce. The latter is usually what happens.

>>5007034
Pretty sure the guy giving out juice boxes wasnt expecting sex, but she still didn't like him anyway.

>>4985858
I feel like anon often acts stupid on purpose.

It doesn't feel genenuine. I can't really read the posts because of it. I wouldn't mind if it was just normal stupid but it feels like it's playing a character and it destroys the likability for me.

Anyone else agree?

>>5002038
This is what the retards are on about. FFS

erm..actually
there was an old species of fruit called ôrnjies
wich went extinct around 355 bc. they had red-ish color, the name was given for the fruit, and then for the color, until they found the oranges we know today, which back then were called apples.(very confusing stuff)

>>4985858
I agree that you are a jealous waste of life

>>5007312
At 20:42, she specifically says that she thinks it was an age thing. Those juiceboxes were meant for kids but Gura wanted one so he was a bit weird about it.

You chink niggers are moving on to Gura now, huh?

did people already get bored of mori?

>just lift bro
By that reasoning, why is it wrong for me to say "just don't be fat" to girls?

>>5010246
>Implying anyone here would think hating fat chicks are wrong
Nice try anon that prob woulda worked better on reddit

>>5011095
>worked better on reddit
Pause and think for a moment about what you just said. Don't bring up something if you have no idea how it works.

>>5011987
Ok pally educate me on how what you said wasn't suppose to be reddit fat bitch bait posted in the wrong place

>>5012475
Sure just to clarify. Unless this place has changed, because I don't browse it mind you, I'm pretty sure such a post would be karma'd into oblivion.

>>5000000
OFF BY ONE

>>4985858
All vtubers play a character, even when they're pretending to be their actual self.

>>4985858
I bet you think her Gura's voice is genuine to. Just don't think about it and have fun anon.

>>4985858
I mean she feigns ignorance about a bunch of things and hides her powerlevel, but she's just as dumb as she appears.

>>4985858
I remember in one of the early Minecraft streams she wrote something in Minecraft internal chat to Amelia but after writing it without spelling errors she erased it and wrote the same thing with spelling errors. It really turned me off her instantly and i have not watched her since really.

>>4997051
If you are going to a therapist that uses any techniques from Jung or Freud you've fucked up big time. Psychoanalysis hasn't been taken seriously for like 5 decades.

>>5027227
This

>>4985858
Anonchama...

>>5027227
Yeah, she plays coy a lot. That doesn't mean she is secretly smart though. She's still bottom two intelligence in HoloEN.

>>5000000
I kneel 2ho chads

>>4985858
Miko actually kind of addresses this. She was asked if she acts out her "pon" trait for laughs, and she said she occasionally does, not by pretending she is pon, but rather engaging in games/situations that she knows/expects will bring out that trait out. That's actually pretty smart and, if the entertainer can read the situation fast and react appropriately or has a natural talent of doing so, they can take advantage of the situation and bring the entertainment value of their stream up.
I'm not saying Gura is playing 6D chess with us, just that she knows how to entertain.

>>4985921
Who

>>5027227
>>4985858
Anyone who thinks Gura's some Lex Luthor type actor, ahem pink cat, should go watch the ttrpg EN collab. She is scatterbrained (adhd) and genuinely bad at math, which often makes her seem dumber than she actually is (she knows this and plays it uo for laughs). The areas she does excel at speak for themselves, she might even be a retard savant.

>>4985858
I think it is a mixture of both. When she asked Kiara "what happened to 3 and 4?", and was in genuine confusion why Kiara is laughing. If not, then some of the stupidest moments are pure genius, since coming up with jokes in a short time is a gift.

>>4985858
Most EN are extremely genuine compared to most JP.

>>4994309
Take your medication.

>>5006964
Chads don't have to try, stand up straight, do self-improvement, etc.
It all comes naturally to them.

Gura is genuinely fuckin smart, but she's a lazy genius.

She refuses to use her intellect to delve or dissect a problem, but instead enjoys the privilege her intelligence gives her

using her great memory, pattern recognition, and creativity to have fun playing games, being a comedian and entertainer, improvising,

It shows because she can identify her faults with keen precision, so has identified her problem, but just avoids solving it. She probably would be great at math, but flunked it because it required brain energy, and jokes about how terrible she is.

Even now, she uses her faults as a resource, for improvisational moments or comedy.

She's genuinely smart as fuck, but just a lazy little pillow who uses her gifts to be a great entertainer, which is very rewarding and gives happy endorphins and shes probably trained enough in making jokes that its very easy for her and being a comedian is natural, as opposed to being academically smart which is hard work.

>I was just pretending to be retarded.

>>4985858
I can’t believe that people as incredible retarded as OP roam this earth

>>5045811
I can't believe that people like YOU roam this earth.

>>5041798
Gura seems like the kind of girl who would drop out of college on a full ride scholarship to be with a boyfriend in another state.

Gura is (was) smack down average intelligence, forever doomed to be lazy, inconsistent and apathetic by her NEET lifestyle for the last 10-15 years (assuming mid 20s). She's the kind of person that would skip around a 4 minute tutorial and then end up having to watch it three more times. Cant study because she never studied, procrastinates everything to the last minute, wont fix obvious issues (her rigging, her overlay) because there's not a deadline so she'll just do it tomorrow first thing in the morning for sure (except she never does).

To call her dumb or stupid is disingenuous because she's neither. Its not that she's genuinely dumb or cant think.
To call her smart is also disingenuous because she's not smart either. She's just there, she simply exists.
Many such cases.

>>5048643
literally me

>>4994309
meds.

>>5048643
The only problem with this is that "never studied" indicates a genius (for an American) or a highschool dropout.

>>5048643
holy shit she's literally me

>>5049650
Gura finished highschool but either never went to college or majored in some meme like graphic design.
Most people like her (extremely online anime voice actress wanabes) have a two year degree in either arts or music and pretty much only do streaming and india VA stuff so Im pretty confident on this one.

>>5049953
College IS the wall for people who can't motivate themselves/aren't self-starters/"""gifted"""-program victims though because you have to do your studying and dedication reps no matter what. Somebody who has coasted their entire life and is used to finishing their homework on the way out of class can't handle it.

I find it quite malicious to call her "stupid" like that. She's not an unintelligent person, she just has moments of foolishness like anyone else. Sure, she may play these moments up for content and the viewers go along with it, but nobody thinks she is outright idiotic, otherwise nobody would watch her. She's obviously a capable person, the fact that she's entertaining to so many people is enough evidence of that. Genuinely dumb people are unpleasant.

I think you shouldn't be so quick to label someone "stupid" when you don't even really know them personally.

I think it can be said she is good/smart at what she does which is know what traits to exhibit and what memes to play to, to attract her audience. Then again I can't say it doesn't just appeal to the lowest common denominator.

>>4996147
And who said you dont learn anything on /vt/?

>>4985858
black berries

>>5006964
Your mistake is taking relationship/socialization advice from a woman
This type of advice you should only get from men

>>4985988
Go touch grass you fucking mongrel this place and your obsession has rotted your brain

>>4989328
read this in her voice

>>4994309
>>5002038
She said she approached in an weird manner, whatever that means, so isn't it on her that the response was also odd?

>>5008519
When I was in university, the school baseball team had an event at a game where kids came out on to the field and stood next to their favorite baseball player during the seventh inning stretch. It was all in good fun until two morbidly obese college girls came out and stood next to the third baseman. Then, it became awkward. So, I can see an uncomfortable interaction if an adult Gura was literally shoving children out of the way to get a juicebox. It’s extremely likely that is exactly how it happened, despite Gura’s omission of those facts from her retelling of the incident.

>>5010246
This is never wrong.