/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Note how what she's describing needing is literally the job managers are supposed to do.
They should have let her submit.
Selena has been revealing a lot of behind the scenes complaints recently.
It feels like she's kinda done with managements bullshit.

>>49980363
Surely the company would let her do it being only an hour late? right?

Niji voice packs are only up for a limited time before being 'sold out'. While other agencies leave them up, since it's digital.

>don’t have a capable manager
>can’t hire an assistant, even through the company

>>49980363
I understand having deadlines but what kind of talent agency just skips you for being 1(one) hour late?

>>49980588
Probably an RSVP within x-time thing she never responded to, which is dumb and irresponsible in and of itself.

>>49980551
Making it public is probably the only way to actually pressure management to do better. She's willing to make herself a difficult employee to improve standards for everyone else. I hope they don't try to retaliate, but who knows. Sometimes being brave and doing the right thing means you suffer for it unfairly.

>>49980588
>>49980655
She had a full day to respond to them.

>>49980655
> what kind of talent agency just skips you for being 1(one) hour late?
rhymes with sack Lopunny

>>49980770
Guess I'm used to watching companies that are used to managing menheras

>>49980363
>Rikku get 0% from this
>give no fuck even just 1 hour late
KEK

The tweets aren't super clear but it also reads like they only notified her a day in advance...that's kinda bullshit and typical niji management style.

People are saying she complains too much but honestly Selen was one the biggest kool-aid drinkers of Niji for so long and ALWAYS tried to stay on Niji's good side in streams. She followed all the little rules to a T. I think her and other talents are just kinda fed up and if complaining on the inside won't fix things - then what other options do the talents have other than social pressure?

I think morale is at an all time low for a lot of people right now and I disagree with the culture of "we can't talk negatively about our employers".

>>49980363
Yeah, Zaion said that too. When I asked whats the best way to support her she said buying the voice packs.

>>49980363
i guess Anycolor make it harder for livers to sell their voice packs so fans can spend that money on merchs for that 98% cut.

>>49980779
>rhymes with sack Lopunny
huh?
>lack Sopunny
?

>>49980779
Every retard manager who has more than half a year on his ass managing ppl knows you set up date 1 day earlier than the real deadline.

And if you expect something from someone, you remind them 3 days before end of deadline and steadily increase the spam.

Also no matter how much you detest a person, you still work professional with em.
>things everyone else does but niji doesnt

>>49981172
Black Company you retardo

>>49981267
just say black company you fucking gaylord

>>49981041
No you retard, the voice packs are planned well in advanced. She missed the deadline so they messaged her and gave her another day to respond to their messages to see if she was going to participate or not, which she didn't respond.

>>49980363
>only 1 day to respond
>about fucking digital voice pack
bruhhhh

Can someone explain to me why the hell she only had a day to answer? And just why is there a time limit for a fucking voice pack that can be done whenever you want?

>>49981267
ESL can't into rhyming KEK

>>49981368
Its and excuse to stop talent from getting more money than the company
98% >>> 0% after all

>>49980363
>One day to respond
>sleep
>lol you too late
sigh, another black practice.

>>49980770
>She had a full day to respond to them.
Only Nijifans thinks a 24 hour window is excusable. Probably Chinese too.
The lady has to eat. We know this is a primary source of income since Niji only leaves 1% on all the other merch.

Looking at replies to Selen's post just pisses me off. "better luck next time". With a flood of animal pics. Bunch of retards.

>>49981267
>retard calling anyone else retarded
lmao

>>49981368
1. Because she missed the deadline.
2. Because Voice packs are themed/seasonal.

These happen consistently every month so she'll just participate in the next one, so it isn't a big deal. They're usually done well in advanced though so the one she isn't participating in might not actually be the next one but the one after that. Livers have recorded multiple voice packs that they forgot they actually recorded until months down the line. And with how frequent they come out it makes sense.

There was another NijiEN who was late to do voicepacks and said that they're still able to do them if they're late, but they have to ask their manager to do them and then just write the scripts themselves.

PAY
FOR
MY
YACHTCARE

This 100% her fault for being a lazy ass
She probably would've had them done on time if she didn't spam apesex and get carried on the easiest pred season
Not to mention she goes to bed super late and wakes up late on the west coast and the shit needs to be done for jap time
Now she's gonna get stealth suspended for revealing this

>>49980363
>one-day notice
Do Nijimanagers REALLY?

>>49981872
>Its streamer fault because they are busy streaming
Nice one, Niji bootlicker

>>49980363
You're not an indie!! You're a corporate slave!!!

>>49980363
This reads like a criticism of management thinly disguised as a condemnation of herself.

>>49981368
Things being time limited drives sales

>>49981872
RPR has mentioned that getting Selen to respond is tiring. She probably doesn't check messages often thus giving a ghosting feeling that others might experience from her.

>>49982049
>You're given a deadline as soon as it is announced
>You're reminded before the deadline that "hey this is the deadline"
>You forget the deadline and you don't read the reminder
>Somehow this is the managers fault
So, what's the manager meant to do if they aren't even left on read and the message is simply ignored?

>>49980363
I've never hated on nijis and the company before, but after seeing the SC details and this it really feels like the worst vtuber company

>>49980363
Her own fault. 24 hours is a long timeframe to respond to a message and she couldn't even get that right.
Probably spent her day just playing Apex again cause fuck everything else that is going.

>>49982193
Deadlines aren't supposed to be real. You should know this if you went to school.

>>49981680
Anon you do understand what a deadline is right? If they still gave her an extra day to respond after the deadline and she still ignored their messages, that's literally her own fault.

No one is freaking out in her replies because VP's literally happen every other week, and sometimes members decide to completely skip a batch of VP's for whatever reason. Selen herself has participated in probably the most voice packs, so it's not a big deal like you're trying to make it out to be. (Shu was infamous for skipping a shit load of vp's).

>>49982102
Funny enough Mysta has admitted to never checking his messages and completely being clueless on things happening in the company. And I think even Enna admitted she's bad at checking DM's. Some of them are just bad at that kind of stuff.

>>49980363
Did she have any streams or collabs that day?

>>49982049
I fucking hate niji and I hate lazy employees
She has it easy yet somehow misses the deadline for some voicepack

>>49982267
Maybe in middle / high school for burgers.
Universities demand actual deadlines unless you've got medical reasons to prove you can't make it.
Companies especially have deadlines to meet all the time.
Again, I ain't bootlicking, but her manager did the job that could have been done, and she even admits fault for not even leaving manager on read, and full on ignoring them.
If you're working or doing higher study you should make it a habit to check emails at least twice a day, once when you clock in and once before you leave.

>>49982193
Obviously never been a manager before.
Not helping your employees to succeed only works for black companies.
Just as not allowing to hire own assistants.

>>49982267
>Deadlines aren't supposed to be real
Have you worked in your life?

>>49982232
Wactor exist, but yes the Niji management is pretty shit.

ITT retards that never had a real job

>>49981041
A day in advance is enough. I got several hours at best.

>>49982451
Alright mister manager, tell me what you'd do if you were Selen's manager and
>She doesn't read your message
>You have no physical way of contacting her outside of discord messages
>She needs to respond to you asap
>You can't interrupt her streams
Go on, tell us.

>>49982345
I'm tired of the Nijifans putting all the blame on the talents.
Good managers don't have workers miss out on self imposed 24 hour deadlines that puts food on their table. Lowers morale. Makes them hate being there. Unless in a black company.

>>49982629
Selen had to answer management messages on a recent stream while being live.

>>49982629
Do nothing because it's totally Selen's fault for lating.

>>49980363
Just like in real jobs, you can't just simply ignore your work email for a full day and not expect to face the consequences.
And no, it wasn't a weekend, NijiEN staff doesn't work weekends.

>>49982629
Not that anon but I would plan better so she has more than just one day to respond.

>>49982708
This

Selen's late is her own fault and unacceptable if she blames Nijisanji management for this.

Nijisanji good
Selen bad

>>49982731
The problem is this, the manager could ve be told that day that they need submissions to who will do the voice packs. Sometimes shit is just sprung on them and there is a limited window.

>>49982784
>least obvious bootlicker

>>49982373
Nope. Selen's last stream was on Saturday night (US time). She didn't stream on Sunday or Monday.

>>49981368
because the manager is retarded, if you're a profesional you would give notice to your talent from 1 week to 3 days to 1 day before the deadline.

this is an example of unprofessionalism from Niji management

>>49982820
Without Nijisanji, Selen is nothing

>>49982629
Contact the other members, retard! This is why you're stuck here perpetually seething and not a manager

>>49982666
Quit acting like a dramaqueen, Selen has participated in every single VP, something a lot of EN members haven't even done. Her missing one isn't the end of the world.

>>49980363
I couldn’t put my finger on it but now I realize none of you people have ever worked a job before. She missed a deadline so she couldn’t join no she doesn’t deserve special treatment. You’re also ignoring sc/streamlabs, members, ad rev, and sponsors. These streamers make more money than your parents

>>49980551
>>49980757
That’s not the job of a manager that’s the job of an assistant. Just because some of holojp treats their managers like that doesn’t mean it’s normal.

>>49982666
>>49982839
>it's totally not her fault that she didn't read her messages and emails despite not having any streams that day at all as said by this anon >>49982823
Bro. Black company or not, you're at least expected as a working adult to look at your emails once a day, twice for good measure.
>>49982907
And what are the other members meant to do if she's not reading anyone's messages?
You don't have to be on discord voice chat to stream you know.

>>49982912
Yes and she try to subtle blame Nijisanji will bite her ass someday. She is idiot

>>49982629
I'd let her turn in the voice packs, with it being an hour late. It's digital for Christ's sake.
Even if for some implausible reason that is not possible, I'd allow her to put up old digital voice packs to resell. Since in Niji, they expire: 'sold out'.

But before that, I'd prevent it from happening. 24 hours has no logistical excuse for a digital voice pack. So give more than a 24 hour window to respond. And if still no response near deadline, message her on stream. Stop saying that you can't, when Hololive does it. They do it for little things as such as meetings.

>>49982912
Would you like to see that change? Selen is straight up openly complaining about management here. You can't keep mistreating your people and then expect them to keep things up. Dragoons should consider themselves extremely lucky Selen is highly self-motivated.

>>49982784
>R*ddit spacing
>bootlicker
You forgot to wrote that on Chinese

>>49982629
>You can't interrupt her streams
Man if even Hololive can do this and Niji can't then there might be some issue on the Niji side.

>>49982801
At least the manager could've clarified that the deadline is strict and offer to give her a reminder like she requested. Missing the deadline for a voicepack on such a short notice by a mere 1 hour is usually not a big deal.

>>49983063
This is EOP board.

>>49983007
>It's digital for Christ's sake.
>'d allow her to put up old digital voice packs to resell
It's a seasonal pack, that's why there's a deadline to it (stupid I know)
>message her on stream
She wasn't streaming that day
Also see >>49982912

>>49982961
because it was a sudden notice hence she mentioned only 1 day notice retard. this is not some "hey I forgot to work on my report can you cover for me?" it's equivalent of some event in your office

if you ever worked professionaly your manager would give notice from 2/1 week before you nigger

>>49983068
Management does interrupt Nijis on stream. Selen probably closed Slack and didn't think of checking it again after stream, and then decided to take a day off without checking it again.

>>49982629
Simple, retard. Contact one or more of the other EN livers to remind her of DMs
It's no fucking rocket science.
God, you are fucking stupid.

>>49983068
The only reason I wrote that is because she literally wasn't streaming that day at all. >>49982823
You can't interrupt her stream because there isn't one to interrupt.

>>49983126
Seasonal pack. 24 hour window. Black company.

>>49983136
>if you ever worked professionaly your manager would give notice from 2/1 week before
This is 100% not the case in real-world jobs. I'm lucky if I get a 1 hour notice sometimes.

>>49983167
Not manager's responsibility idiot.
Selen's fault

>>49982629
Yes, managers can interrupt streams. Happened several times where livers went
>Oh, I got a DM , let me respond real quick.

>>49983167
See >>49982995 >>49982102
She ghosts other members as well as people that aren't even members.
Good luck.

>>49983216
See >>49982823
She wasn't even streaming at all. There's no stream to interrupt, hence why I wrote "can't interrupt her stream"

>>49983204
Moving the posts now, huh?
>Tell me how manager should have done
>gives answers
>NO, DOESNT COUNT. HER FAULT.

Every single time. What a retard.

>>49983270
>Management DINDU NOTHING

As much as I'd love to shit on Niji management, this one is on Selen.

>>49983218
So you have no legit source other than speculations and hearsay with no idea of inner workings?
Holy shit, folks. Niji dick sucking is in full effect again.

>>49983193
>ignoring my first sentence
retard. like I said this is equivalent to some event in your office if your manager missed giving their notice then HR would give them a talk. if your office isn't professional doesn't mean every office on the world is the same as your nigger

you're just bullshitiing and actually never work and olny read from doomer jobless nigger

>>49982912
>Her missing one isn't the end of the world.
it's basically missing a huge pay check. All other merch she only gets 1-3%. Voice packs are 50%, worth more than SCs.
And it's just not for her. It's depriving her fans for something unique and way to support her. Not the same old generic shit from Black corpo that takes 99%. God, you Nijifans are their worst enemies.

>Management: "@all Anyone interested in signing up for Summer Voicepack, please respond to this message!"
>24hrs later
>Management: "@all Last call, anyone else want to participate?"
>1hr later
>Management: "@all OK, signups closed"
>Selen: "Whoops I should pay attention to my work messages more often"

>>49982077
and now there are no sales, it's retarded

>>49983363
>Speculations and hearsay
Huh? Literally what nigger? Other members have gone and said she doesn't read shit. She admitted herself she didn't read shit in the god damn tweet. Her friends have gone and said she doesn't read shit.
What speculation??? What hearsay??? They're literally self admitted.
Holy shit, folks. Blind dramaniggers going in hard.

>>49983428
>Selen: @management I know the call just closed, but could you please include me also
>management: Sure, the deadline was at the end of the working day, so it's not like I'll be doing anything until tomorrow, anyway

>>49980363
Come to Hololive, Selen. Not only does the company hate you, but so do its fans.

It's the Zaion hate all over again.

>>49983494
>She didn't do / say this
>It's still somehow not her fault

>>49982629
Make sweet love to her and cum on her tits.

>>49983393
Other Livers have skipped out on VP's before, Selen is actually an outlier. It doesn't matter though because VP's happen every couple of weeks anyways.

>>49982998
Anon, NijiEN by all accounts is a massive dumpster fire with terrible management. Granted, she admitted she procrastinated, but considering morale is at its lowest in the branch and management has shown that they are not above being draconian, its not like these tweets will make them look any worse than they're more than capable of doing themselves.
I really wonder if Selen even resigned her contract though, it just feels like both her and Pomu are emotionally checked out and done with being corporate vtubers.

>>49982995
>Bro. Black company or not, you're at least expected as a working adult to look at your emails once a day, twice for good measure.
At the same time you're an entertainment business trying to sell a product. "Selen" is the product they created. Punishing your customers because the vtuber fucked up is pretty anti-consumer. You can just deduct her earnings on the voicepack simple as that.

>i-i-i-i-i-i-it was a sudden notice
where did this cope come from

>>49983575
At this point, if she can't get into Hololive for some reason even going to vshojo or indie would be better for her.

>>49983779
Holofags and dragoons who have never worked a day in their lives.

>>49983759
Also adding on this, i'll never understand why anons on /vt/ compare their pencil pushing office desk job to the entertainment industry.

>>49983759
Nothing stopping her from doing it herself anyway and making it available for free or even a membership-exclusive.

>>49983759
Look, I'm not going to pretend I know how this shit works but if there's a reason she can't submit the VP for whatever it may be, whether it be producers need to get a move on, or it's seasonal or whatever else. I don't know. If there's no reason other than "Sorry you were late." then it's a fucking dumb move by the company.
That being said, what I do know is that VP's happen pretty often for Niji and this is literally the first one that she's missed, while others have missed plenty, yeah it fucking sucks for viewers but it's not the end of the world.

>>49983783
I agree. She has proven the work ethic and can see her getting in many agencies. She could use the help.

LOL, 24 hour deadlines would destroy Gura.

>>49983783
Going indie seems like the only reasonable route for her right now. She won't have to put up with game permissions, she can do whatever she wants, she only has to deal with Youtube's 30% revenue cut instead of sharing it with a company like Anycolor, and not only is she perfectly capable of producing her own special merch, but she also won't even need to worry about a middleman taking 98% of the earnings while she only gets 2% at best.
They're probably looking at Sayu right now to see how well she does without NijiEN before they fuck off that sinking ship. The company basically has nothing to offer her at this point, staying there is only causes more damage to their brand than it does actually help them.

>>49983863
She requested to do own merch and Niji denied it.
ID fans resorted to make own merch to sell and support their oshis. Black company.

Of course leave it to tribalists to make it all about le drama because of a moment of weakness from a liver

>>49983759
>>49983842
they're cycling through almost 30 vtubers in one language branch alone and have limited business hours to do so
if a talent fails to meet the deadline, focus on the several others that did
you're acting like this is a netloss for them

>>49984049
Nothing stopping her from making her own voicepack and putting it behind membership. Other livers have done similar things already.

>>49984049
Merch=/=Voice packs. Doppio literally has Members exclusive Voice Packs and Drama CD's he makes.

>>49984049
>ID fans resorted to make own merch to sell and support their oshis.
Damn no wonder BBQ is disbanding
Niji seriously fucked ID over after the merger

>>49984091
Other livers in NijiEN?
Pretty sure that would require their permission since it would cut their sales.

>>49984049
She asked for it TWICE
She also did a membership stream with her Dragoons where she draw the merch she will never get
>

You want this to change? Make a stink about it on twitter and flood their inbox.
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/contact
Remember they have to manually read every single individual message that comes through this form.

>>49980363
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I ALWAYS CHECK MY NOTIFICATIONS

>>49982629
Wouldn't a manager be normally getting an IRL phone number from the person he's managing? The described situation is literally what phones were invented for.

>>49980881
and you just proved you have never watched a single selen stream in your life. quit your faggy console wars bullshit, i know you are an autist SEA but i believe you can do it anon!

>>49984162
Doppio. But what sales would it cut? The company doesn't make the voicepack scripts until after the livers sign up for them. So since Selen didn't, they didn't spend any time/money putting together the voicepack, so there are no cut sales going on.

>>49981267
Learn to rhyme first, faggot

>>49984009
I think Hololive would be the best fit for her if she can make it in. It has a similar structure as Nijisanji and pays better than the alternatives.
Vshojo might be good if she can't get into Hololive but being totally on your own as indie is too scary. She would at least get some merch, tech and legal support from them and she would have some people to collab with. Going indie might also work if she can handle that without burning out. Personally I feel like that's a bit of a risky option but I think she could pull it off.

>>49984229
Looks like Nijifans want Selen to graduate instead.

>>49984427
Voicepacks are open invites. The livers can sign up for them if they want. Management saw she didn't reply and took that to mean she wasn't interested. They're not going to chase down every liver for confirmation.

>>49984481
this kek were the managers supposed to insistently call every liver and bomb their dms to figure out who wanted it? i'm pretty sure they give a 24 hour frame so only people with time to invest into this will join instead of everyone spending a week tweaking their schedule to make room for it too

She needs to get the hell out of that company, there's no way that carrying the Nijisanji brand name that's been dragged through the mud is worth putting up with all the mismanagement and abuse

>>49984626
>Missing a single voice pack is abuse

I can't take this convo seriously anymore.

>>49984437
That's like asking what does her own self-made merch sales cut?
Most fans have limited income. Not being able to buy all merch including voice packs. No voice packs is a win-win situation for Niji, with fans buying their generic merch giving them 99% cut instead of 50% from voice packs.

>>49984675
Give me your next paycheck or two, please. No abuse.

>>49984481
>>49984602
And she then said she was interested and they still wouldn't let her do it, how does this fact fit into your strawman?

>>49984758
This is a retarded point because Nijisanji spams Voice Packs for the majority of their Livers every single month, without merch.

>>49984790
A single VP isn't their entire paycheck.

>>49984758
Self-made merch doesn't go through the company, so the company is not going to allow it.
Making her own voicepack (no different from her starting a stream, reading a script for a few minutes, then ending a stream) still goes through her channel, so they'll still earn money from views, superchats/streamlabs, or if behind membership, a membership cost.

>>49982961
You've never worked in entertainment, I see. If your manager is spread too thin to manage your schedules and reminders, it's his job to hire an assistant. That is how the industry works, it's how it's worked for over a century and Niji not stepping up to the bare minimums of industry standard is fucking bullshit.

Sometimes I wish Hololive had the same shotgun approach as Nijisanji

Like they're the only competent large corpo but NEVER FUCKING HIRE and there are decent people languishing in Nijisanji who probably just renewed their contracts because there's no hope of getting into anything better

>>49984480
Yes, actually. I think she would be much happier and much more popular as an indie or small corpo cuuba.

>>49980363
>1 day to respond back
>only an hour over the deadline
>Fuck you, you miss out!
Literal black company

>>49984932
Fuck industry standards, Chinese standards is better.

>>49984933
>Like they're the only competent large corpo but NEVER FUCKING HIRE
It's a legit business decision that helps to not alienate fans and talents alike.

>>49984840
>strawman
stop using big boy terms to sound smart cause youre misusing them kek your point doesnt even make any sense. i said theyre not supposed to chase after every liver, its an open invitation, she didnt take the invitation. her asking to be included afterwards doesnt change the fact that she didnt accept the invitation when she was supposed to. every liver will ask to be included late if they accept livers that procrastinate on checking their managements' messages like her. you've never worked in a corporation setting and it shows lol no company will run after procrastinators when they could focus on employees that actually do their work and communicate with the team

>>49985056
I know I just want the best of both worlds but they're mutually incompatible

>>49984932
It is funny when Nijisisters decide working as a contractor in an entertainment company is like working an office job for no other reason than it helps their current argument and that is their own frame of reference since they are boring cunts. They did this during the Zaion harassment campaign when they acted like she made rape jokes and comments about little boys to her co-workers at the office and got a visit from Human Resources. Hex even joined in on this framing with his fake victim complex because he knows women are stupid and would buy it.

>>49984876
>A single VP isn't their entire paycheck.
You're right. She also gets 1% from general merch. Blowing off the 50% from voice packs is a major loss. Especially now, with many fans knowing what they know now.
And to think, she just paid $5000 out of her own pocket because Niji is a black company.

>>49985067
>she didnt take the invitation.
She did, your strawman is she didn't over a small timing technicality since that is easier to argue for you.
>>49985067
>you've never worked in a corporation setting and it shows lol no company will run after procrastinators when they could focus on employees that actually do their work and communicate with the team
This isn't an office job sister, thread is calling you out for this retarded take already, take the L.

>>49980363
1%

>>49980363
VPs doesn't pay for yacht maintenance

all i am getting from this thread that a lot of nijifans are working for black companies...
no wonder they see nothing wrong with the shit Nijisanji pulls

massive faggoon cope everytime with all of these recent selen yabs

>>49985626
Except Selen's yabs are also part of a greater Niji yabfest going on for months. So sorry sister, you aren't getting off the hook so easy.

>>49984932
Managers exist in all large, hierarchical organizations. They assign/delegate work to keep their team on target for their slice of the executive team's "big picture".

There's no visibility into how much forewarning Selen's manager gets on these announcements. If they dragged their feet on passing the notice along, then it's their fault for not leaving a big enough window open. If the message was passed along in a timely fashion, then said voice pack event is probably not critical to Niji's business, and it's on Selen. Bad timing to go offline and not check your email/messages, but it happens.

>>49985626
>Selen "yabs"
>being mad at management
>being mad at Apex
Sorry Nijisisters, but she is nothing compared to Enna or the Homos

>>49985209
If I recall right, Selen admitted the 5k are a huge hole in her wallet, which is why she went with the sponsor stream first instead of Nioh.

>>49982629
> She needs to respond to you asap
Once again, why is the deadline for something as important as this 24 fucking hours?
I KNOW that the actual deadline would be at least a week or two, maybe a month depending on how much other involved livers would need to spend recording.
I guaran-fucking-tee you that her manager actively sabotaged her by only telling her about the opportunity 24 hours before she could do it, with maybe one small post that wouldn't look important on the discord.
It ensures that
1. She will likely miss it after being tired from streaming.
2. She will blame herself and won't think twice about why the deadline was only 24 hours.
This type of shit always happens in Anycolor, where bigger livers get actively shit on so that they don't get a big head about who's actually in charge.

>>49985944
>for something as important as this
It's not important. Nijisanji puts out voicepacks every few weeks. If you miss one, just wait a couple of weeks and sign up for the next one.

>>49982666
> nijisanji
> management

>>49984175
This just makes me sad

>>49985738
You're showing your ignorance of the entertainment industry again, anonybro. What you described is a team manager in an office or wage slave environment. In the entertainment industry a manager has a personal one-on-one relationship with their talent and serves as their designated tard wranger and intermediary between talent and agency.
Niji not doing that is 100% on them. You see it in action with HoloEN. Even utter shitshows like Phase Connect and Tsunderia got managers right. Fuck Cyberlive forcing Lumi into that role for the rest of the talent of her gen is why she went rogue and fucked the company over.
You literally do not know enough about this industry to speak with any degree of authority on the topic.

>>49982823
> resting vocal cords
> no streaming
> won't check discord
ah yes, perfect 24 hour window to drop an important deadline

>>49986064
>"She can't read Slack messages because her vocal cords are tired!"
Man I wish I could use the same excuse at my job. "Man, I had to talk a lot on meetings today, I shouldn't have to read my work email anymore"

>>49986064
jesus....they really timed that, didn't they?

>>49986059
yea that anon is bad he probably ran away and never come back

>>49984049
The ID fan making merch solely to give money to their exnijiid and got shut down. It just frustrating even being a fan.

>>49986064
>Day where she is doing absolutely nothing except sit in bed / on the sofa, and probably watch something
>Literally nothing to hold her back
>Still doesn't look at emails / DMs on discord
And somehow it's still not her fault? Right fagoon apologists?

how much % she got from voice pack anyway? dont tell me same as merch 2%??

>>49986312
VP's are 50%.

>>49986315
Source?

>>49984049
damn. the fans make their oshi anniv merch instead of company? actual black company there

>>49986331
Same as FalseEyed's source.

>>49986111
Mane-chan, just give your talents like 3 days of notice. It's not that hard. What's your excuse for a mere 24 hours in the first place? You cannot expect them to be on call 24/7. That's not reasonable.

>>49986315
>nijifans
liver is doing nothing to merch production, so 2% is understanable.

VP shared 50:50
Niji management literally doing nothing and still got 50%. explain this shit nijifans?

>>49986059
> again
not the person you originally were speaking to, anon
>designated tard wrang(l)er
I don't work in the entertainment industry, but I also don't need someone to tell me to read my email or check my phone.

Niji folks are streamers with merch. They're not the level of entertainer that actually juggles so much shit that they need this. If they drop the ball, sucks, but oh well. One unsuccessful instance tard-wrangling, we'll get em next time chief. Maybe the streamer learns to tard less. Nothing worth this level of crying over, but this is /vt/ so I'm not surprised about all the basketcases.

>>49986179
I'm just browsing until I finish my coffee and go to the gym, but feel free to think whatever makes your peepee hard :)

>>49986459
Management puts together a script for the voicepacks (either commissioned, or management spends time writing it themselves), as well as commissions artwork to go along with voicepack releases.

>>49986459
Where is it said that the managers get that 50%?
Are you implying that another corpo's management get paid for doing nothing also?

>>49986459
>liver is doing nothing to merch production, so 2% is understanable
Yeah cause she can't make her own merch despite asking retard.

>>49986254
> looking at work emails and slack on your day off
wagie...

>>49986524
So where the 50% went? riku yacht?

>>49986788
>>49986505

>>49986614
>Expects this of managers
>Somehow doesn't expect this of employees

>>49980363
This one is on her. If management said fuck deadlines and gave her a break then everybody else would try to do the same thing.

>>49986505
>livers promote their merch in twitter and stream
>stream everyday to make their own name popular
>all that hardwork only worth 2%

>nijifans
DOING NOTHING

>>49986988
I'm talking about voicepacks, not merch.

>>49980363
>NotZaion exposed that NijiEN have 1 manager per gen.
1% cut for this btw

>>49987018
exactly. same as VP. the liver doing a hardwork to increase the merch sales. and this nijifans shit dares to say the livers are doing nothing piss me off so much

>>49987109
VP is 50/50 split, not 2%

>>49987141
you missed the point buddy

>>49987166
>Management puts together individual scripts for each liver, and commissions artwork for the voicepacks
>Livers talk for a few minutes
Seems like a fair 50/50 split to me.

>>49980779
VShojo?

VP are 50/50, one VP gives the talent revenue as 25 of common merch so management defines it as a limited product (even when it’s something digital) and is very strict to their members on when and how they can release a VP.
Management priority is the company so they will want to return the focus of sales to regular merch that is more beneficial to the company.

>>49987222
There's no way that management makes the script, and I wouldn't put it past them to make the talent pay for the art.

>>49987511
If management doesn't make the scripts, then they commission someone else for it. In one of the earliest NijiEN discord leaks, the livers talked about how the voicepack scripts they got from management were stupid and had grammatical errors.
>and I wouldn't put it past them to make the talent pay for the art.
Now you're just being a retard, because sometimes they put out art for livers who don't participate in the voicepacks.

>>49987511
It depends. Multiple livers have said they make the scripts and if they can't think of anything they get the staff to do it.

>>49987655
They can write their own scripts if they want to, but by default staff sends them a script.

who the fuck buys voice packs

>1 day of notice
>If you are late by 1 hour you are fucked
What the fuck is going on with the EN management? This is unnecessarily scummy

>>49980363
>tfw you have to sell 360 voicepacks to earn what holos earn in 1, one-hour long sponsored amogus stream
Why would anyone apply to nijisanji? It's like applying to a soviet gulag.

>>49988374
Reminds me of the time Kronii was late to her own costume reveal for her staff to post her full costume on twitter due to planned merch that was going with it

>>49986459
>liver is doing nothing to merch production, so 2% is understanable.
Except being the only thing that makes their literally mass produced plastic worth anything. 100% in the case of Nijisanji, where all ther merch is exactly the same, people only buy merch for the personality's face that's plastered on it. You think people buy these keychains and acrylic stands because they actually want them independently of the vtuber that's on it? No. It's the vtuber's personality that sells it. Did you ever stop to think why all the merch is the same and formulaic? Because it's cheap to produce in bulk and just throw the vtubers face on. Even if you want to argue that the liver does nothing, the merch is still literally worthless crap outside of its association with the established streamer. I wouldn't even call 2% nothing. It's too generous a term. 10% is nothing, and what I'd consider the bare minimum. It's not going to hurt Anycolor's pockets since they don't even pay they livers a minimum salary anyway, despite being a multi-billion dollar company.

>>49987975
In Selen case, really good GFE.
And she also get more money for her projects, much better than buying the shitty Niji chink generic merch.

>>49980363
this woman is gonna have a massive breakdown before the year ends

>Voice packs are 50/50
Is this supposed to be a good thing?

Even the $3 Group voices need to pay for everyone in the group.

The get well pack female group is $3.63 and revenue is split between 10 talents and Niji.
So what? 30 cents each?

>>49989024
So how much are they making if they also have to split it with Anycolor?

>>49989125
Why couldn't Meloco and Kotoko have joined JP instead...

>>49986459
>liver is doing nothing to merch production, so 2% is understanable.
Yes, I'm sure everyone would want to buy the overpriced cheap plastic trash merch even if they didn't use the face of their oshi. The talents don't give it any value whatsoever, no sir.

>>49989151
Meloco already said why.
She'd rather this than go through VTA.
Kotoka applied to everything and accepted the first thing that gave her a response back.

>>49989024
What I don’t get is why a digital product is limited. Don’t they want to sell more of something with no physical cost.

>>49989125
Or, we have to ask:
Does 50/50 apply here?
As in, does Anycolor make 50% and the other 50% are split among the girls?
So, what? $1,81 split among 10 girls?

>>49989024
What the fuck are you talking about?
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/29go07dou
Each voice packs for each member is 1000 yen or around $8 individually, they can put out an extra track of they want for 500 yen which is what you are seeing for $3. The $1 you are posting there is for individual tracks for a larger voice pack.

>>49989125
>Audio files sold out
Why?

>>49988462
Considering they got paid that much for a one off shill stream, I wonder how much cut they get from the Among Us merch and Counterside deals.

>>49989229
I assume they have found that FOMO sells more units than leaving it on sale indefinitely.

>>49989197
>She'd rather this than go through VTA.
Oh yeah, I forgot she said that. I can understand not wanting to jump through so many hoops.

>>49986111
They are contractors and are allowed to take time off as they see fit so it is management's fault, if I decide that I am going to have a day off and retarded management wants answers only on that specific day then they are a retarded black company
>but she can still check her work phone
Stop being a yank, when you are off then you are off. They are not firefighters on call

>>49989371
I can understand limited time offer but not limited amount of digital sales.
It’s like they want to limit their earnings on purpose.

>>49989527
There isn't a limited amount. It just says sold out when it's out of the sale period.

Why would they not take it even if she was late lol. Literally free money for Niji.

>>49989569
I assume when your managing hundreds of people it's like well you let that person submit a day late it's only 2 days later well you let that person submit 2 days late it's only 4 days late, well you let that person submit 4 days late it's only a week late and so on. Deadline is a deadline and if you move it all the time you might as well not have one.

>>49980363
>Hire an assistant

What is a talent manager's job if not becoming their assistant then? Isn't managers in the entertainment industry supposed to MANAGE behind the scenes stuff?

What are these niji managers doing? They must've gotten the manager's job description wrong

>>49989353
I wonder how much Nijis make from sponsored streams. I saw anons throwing out numbers between 10-20% but with no facts to back that up.

>>49989549
So it’s a bad store display. Still it’s weird showing the VP after their time expires and you can’t even buy them.

>>49989663
Well Selen has the Xsoleil manager. And it is clear now that she is in the world of hurt with this clown.

>>49989702
Sometimes they bring VPs back. It's like the Disney's retarded Vault system where they create artificial scarcity of certain films before releasing them back "from the Vault" every decade or so.

>>49984481
>They're not going to chase down every liver for confirmation
Managers hired to make money. When i was in sales and went on vacation, not a single day went without "hey, want to return back to work? We'll pay extra". Manager that doesn't spend every minute thinking about profits is wasting money. Not letting Selen send her shit IS wasting money. Evey coin that manager failed to acquire is a coin that went to your company's rival.

>>49980363
>incompetent management
>not even allowed to hire a assistant with her own money
>fucking her over because she was 1 hour late on merch
>no fucking shit she doesn't check discord when 100% of it is just management breathing down her neck about numbers and dramafaggotry from her coworkers
I was going to call bullshit and that this is fake because I refuse that another Nijisanji yab happens but I checked and its real

>>49989569
One manager has to work with 6 or more livers at a time. They don’t want to deal with so much individual shit and keep it simple for them.
Also dragoons can just buy other merch instead of the new VP.

For someone like Selen superchat and membership probably makes up the majority of her monthly income in a dollar amount even if it's not the highest in a percentage amount. Say you sell 1000 voicepacks at $10 each that's still only $5k to you pre tax. On superchat she gets like $10k a month and should get 35% so that's like $3.5k pre tax and she has 5k members based on emote slots for $25k a month so I guess that's around $8.5k pre tax. So probably like $10k a month pre tax from superchat and members going to her with however much extra they earn from voicepacks streamlabs etc on top.

>>49989806
Selen
>guys I fucked up I am really sorry
Anons
>that damn company and it's meddling staff

>>49989863
>dragoons can just buy other merch where 98% of it will go to the nijisister oshi Riku and his yacht fund

>>49989806
>Selen forgot to check discord is now a yab
Man you guys are desperate.

>>49989874
Its 1 fucking hour where she had a 1 day deadline with no prior notice or announcement
There was no reason to deny her. Why are you bootlicking anycolors shit staff so hard?

>>49989872
Do you know how much they make on memberships? Because Livers never bring it up as a good method of support. They might get 10% or less from membership total.

>>49989919
He is clearly trolling and larping as a fake dragoon if he doesnt give a shit that Selen missed a paycheck and the only real income she gets

>>49989919
1 day time after the message is out is almost inhumane anyway. Not to mention the quality of the product suffers from that as well.

>>49989919
Because a deadline is a deadline.
If there were an extension available, is it not reasonable to assume that Selen would have asked by now?
Also, I'm not really sure where this is coming from but why is it management that's enforcing the deadline? What if it's the producers of the VP that are enforcing it?

>>49989919
>There was no reason to deny her
Actually there is. They can't deduct money from you since it's illegal but they can deny you opportunities from making money if they are vindictive over something and God knows Selen has not been good from manager's perspective.
>but they lose money too
This is a company that does stealth suspensions, clearly they don't care and with 100s of Livers and those merch cuts no wonder why.

>>49989874
>>49989905
The core takeaway here isn't even anything to do with the voice pack or scheduling. It's that Selen apparently wanted to hire an assistant, with her own money, to do a job that her manager is supposed to be doing but isn't, and was told that she isn't allowed to. As well as that she seems to believe that the issue here is her not getting to hire an assistant, and not the underlying issue of her manager not doing the exact thing she's trying to hire somebody else to do.

>>49990028
>meanwhile Nina gets deadline extensions all the time and openly talks about it
Nah this feels very targeted

>>49990017
lol like half the branch just doesn't participate in voice packs because they don't want, it's not that important to their income if people like millie who doesn't even break 1k viewers can just leave the money on the table

>>49989863
>They don’t want to deal with so much individual shit and keep it simple for them.
Can't Niji hire more managers then

>>49990088
Not saying I don't believe you, I very much do because of previous management scuffles, but you got a timestamp link for Nina getting deadline extensions for her VP's?

>>49990105
>taking away Rikus money
Why do you anti?

>>49990123
But he loses money by not spending money

>>49990120
It was one of her MGS2 streams but I can't remember which one. Nina timestampers suck.

>>49990105
They tried but not many people want to work at Anycolor it seems. Plus they have retarded requirements for a lot of job openings. You can check it on their site.

>>49990088
Or you know different deadlines have different amounts of leniency built into them? Might be different depending on if it's just an EN voice pack or if it's one being run by JP management with the JP side participating too for example. For example EN could probably be more lenient with EN members for an EN voice pack but it's not really that important to JP staff if some random EN member participates or not.

>>49990245
>retarded requiements
>let a 2week old hire act as a manager and completely fuck over and terminate one of the talents

Sounds to me like they aren't retarded enough requirements

>>49990276
No I mean requirements like you can't be a fan or be familiar with Anycolor in any capacity.

>>49990123
>>49990155
Anti-consumer or anti-talent business practices are inherently focused on short-term profits over long-term success, because doing so erodes a company's reputation and trust in a way that's difficult or impossible to win back. The more these issues keep being revealed about how Nijisanji is run, the more apparent it is that it's a company focused entirely on making as much money as they can out of what they see as a short fad before they crash and burn.

>>49990385
>the more apparent it is
Well, Riku did say that this whole vtuber stuff happened in the heat of the moment

>>49990360
How would they even know if you're a fan though?

>>49990088
Nina might be lucky with her manager, but Selen's manager is not being evil just for having clear deadlines.

>>49990360
>Employ people who aren't passionate about vtubers or even the company
>It becomes a soulless machine that the livers resent

>>49980655
The same company that has a faceless mass of 200+ talents and not enough personnel to handle them all

>>49990360
There aren't any requirements like that in the job applications.

>>49990538
A clear deadline of 24 hours isn't exactly great.

>>49990433
That's my point yeah. Companies have no inherent morality, so this sort of thing should to a degree be expected from a company so heavily focused on the short-term over the long-term. Cover only manages its clean reputation because it focuses heavily on the long-term, and building a positive reputation is one of the most long-term things you can do, as it requires constantly sacrificing short-term opportunities for profit and spending money to build greater public trust. People like to ascribe morality to Nijisanji, or blame things on Riku, but ultimately what's to blame is the short-sighted management style of a company that sees no real future in vtubing, or at least not enough of one to invest in.

>>49990556
Managers are your direct boss in the company, not your personal babysitter. They work for the company that employ them not for you the liver.

>>49990657
As has been discussed, the key is that Nijisanji is a talent agency, so they have talent managers, not corporate managers. Or at least they should. And the job of a talent manager is exactly that, to babysit the talent and make sure they're getting as many opportunities (and making the company as much money) as possible.

>>49990657
Even so, in my experience, a manager building a good working relationship with their subordinates is a good way to improve general morale. Yes, they can and should still lay down the law, but being basically a hard wall that you can't really get through to isn't good for the company.

>>49990626
I swear you can literally say whatever you want about Nijisanji and people will believe you on this board no evidence required.
https://open.talentio.com/r/1/c/ichikara-inc/pages/55116

>>49990643
Riku was the one who decided to go short term after his fifth capitalist venture didn't crash and burn. So he is to blame. It's been 5 years and I don't think he expected it to last this long so I doubt he knows what to do now except keep milking it until it's dry.

>>49990760
I mean yeah, fair.

Holokeks are begging for niji talents once again?
I am sorry to disappoint you, but Niji talents would rather stay and have 2% than join HoboLive and have "360$ regardless of the number of streams".

>>49990754
People still arguing about the implications of that claim even though it has no basis in reality.

>>49990754
>must live in japan
>all of the NijiEN managers that have been leaked so far and the ones confirmed by Zaion have been chinese

So that was a lie

>>49990831
Japan has a big chinese and korean population.

>>49990831
>Official application document
>Some words from a salty retard who got booted
Hmm, I wonder what is more legitimate here.

>>49990923
Hi Paul Li

>>49990831
what does your ethnicity have to do with living in Japan or not lol? There hasn't been a single manager confirmed as Chinese as far as I know either?

>>49990760
Anycolor business model is too solid to simply dry out.

>>49990976
At least post the real one and not the photoshop

>>49980655
>t.anon that has never worked a day in his life and still in middle or highschool
You people really do expose yourselves so easily.

>>49991068
Nijisanji fan
>an adult that understands how jobs work and has a rational outlook on business practices and why they are the way they are.
Holo fan
>children or jobless neets that reee 2%

>>49991125
Your oshis stocks are dropping and the boots aren't sparkling

>>49991189
My oshi just got a cool new shirt released. I think he is good.

>>49980363
I would have thought she was popular and demanded enough that they could make an exception. It's not like she is problematic for them and most girls are irrelevant there.

>>49991265
Not part of the elira clique please understand

>>49991125
>Nijisanji is actually good! Don't look at how other companies are operating! Ours is the best! That's all you need to know!

>>49991296
Neither is Nina yet some anons are claiming that Nina gets special treatment.
Clique argument doesn't hold up here.

>>49991125
>just do whatever your superiors say
>just take it, no need to stand up for yourself
>that's just how things are
>they're your betters for a reason
>it's called professionalism
>don't make a fuss, be an adult
china logic, as expected from a nijizhangji fan

>>49991448
I meannnn.
Selen certainly did all of this. She didn't ask for an extension, she didn't fight management on it, she just bent the knee and went with it.

>>49991296
It's funny because Selen is one of the girls that clearly gets favored for merch and art for voicepacks. If it's a free selection it almost always includes like Selen, Enna, Elira or Pomu. If it's one representative from each wave then Selen is almost always the one picked for Obsydia.

>>49991448
Standing up for yourself gets you fired. This isn't your sitcom.

>>49991527
So the "salty retard who got booted" is trustworthy now?

>>49991258
Cuckdred he's only getting 2% from that. Unless you mean your oshi is nijisanji itself.

>>49991559
All she said were things known for years by jpfags so I don't see why not. The issue is there were no big revelations.

>>49991637
Doesn't stop everything they release with his face on it to sell out in minutes. He makes enough money to live comfortably. Merch is for the fans. It's not hard to understand. I thought they make nothing on merch.

>>49991385
It never holds up lol the grand narrative was supposed to be that what Elira's clique didn't like Zaion so she got unfavorable treatment. Meanwhile Elira herself was literally shilling the girl to her own fans raiding her and talking about how cute she is and shit.

>>49991773
Well nobody liked Zaion that much is true.

>>49991807
Except it demonstrably isn't, as shown with the description of Maria's cover.

Livers are probably watching some dumb movie together on discord right now. Possibly with some staff members. Just laughing their asses off while anons here continue to argue about how unhappy they are to be in Nijisanji and how they should leave.

>>49991914
Right on sister! You tell 'em!

Why are we talking about Selen like she’s even a B-list talent? She not Pekora. She’s not even Kiara. If you are a headliner or a top billed actor people make allowances for you. If you are “girl in coffee shop #2” or the backup long snapper check your work emails daily. No one really gives a shit about you

>>49991873
>removes Zaion
>retards from here and zaimons flood the comments and harrass Maririn
>faceless staff takes the blame for the Liver for it to stop

>>49991952
All Livers in Nijisanji are girls in a coffee shop #2

>>49991031
>photoshop
LMAO, so this is how sisters cope.

>>49991952
If it's being run by JP staff then Selen isn't a particularly big deal.

>>49991952
>Just get big enough to benefit from the shitty favouritism in the company
Nice defence
>>49992002
What makes more sense? Management with no emotional investment going scorched earth across the board when it comes to Zaion after their aggressive termination statement, including scrubbing Maria's cover with her of any mention of Zaion, or Maria deciding of her own accord to remove Zaion's name from the cover, knowing it would just spark more shit?

>>49992105
Not a single Liver is big enough of a deal. Every Liver is expandable in Nijisanji.

>>49992195
Both make sense. Maria was deeply hurt by Zaion's terrible departure. Also poor Maria had to pay for everything in that cover on her own since Zaion had no money but still wanted to do a cover.

>>49992203
That's because the entire operation is run as an expandable project which can be entirely discarded if it's not producing more Yachts.

>>49992268
Nice. I'll deposit your payment later.

>>49991773
The only real well backed up evidence of "clique" behavior involving that group was basically just at the start of Ethyria where Millie, Enna and Reimu were excluding Nina but they're all pals nowadays with Nina even being invited to all their off collabs and shit. The idea that Elira is at the head of some nepotism based clique in NijiEN is really only something that can be perpetuated by people that just read threads about NijiEN and never watch them at all. She's one of the least cliquey people in the branch. Petra who she didn't even know before is now one of her best friends period. She's pretty much single handedly responsible for Scarle being a 4 view instead of 3 view with how much she raids her. She's on twitter just earlier raving about how great Aias new cover coming out is. She doesn't even collab with any specific group regularly enough to become part of one of those groups with a name like "nijiuk" or "woo girls" or "nijicancelled" or whatever. She just gets on with her own thing and promotes the rest of the branch as a whole where she can.

Why is this shitposting thread gets 300 replies?

>>49991914
>liver watching movie on discord now
CAP, they watching selen thread now and laughing at her misfortune.

>>49992408
Selen is too popular.

>>49992408
We can understand her struggle from dumbass management, it resonate to most wagie.

>>49980363
>1 hour late
>playing Destiny 2 with acid all afternoon
https://destinytracker.com/destiny-2/profile/bungie/4611686018529456696/sessions
What a shame selen, maybe if you weren't so busy with acidreignz dick you could have delivered it on time

>>49992689
Kek oof.

>>49992268
>Maria had to pay for everything in that cover on her own
That's pretty much how it worked you dumbass. Everytime someone start an idea for collab cover, the one who initiated it was the one paying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDzlayOiVro

>>49992689
Imagine thinking that selen would rather do her job than be with pro players
she has her priorities

>>49992408
Because corpo bootlickers came out from them their shitholes and start bootlicking. As usual

>>49992689
She might not even have seen the message until later. She even says she didn't check her messages immediately. If the manager did their job properly they should have at the very least called her for such a short time notice.

>>49992689
>Acid
He was the reason selen had to delay one of her apex pred stream
>Last squad

>>49988491
And more recently Reine, Risu, and Moona pushing their collab back an hour so the tweet announcing their appearance as guests for Connect the World dropped around the same time Reine's loading screen went up. Twitter interns are a funny bunch.

Selen if you're here listen to me.
You dont need to be a fucking apex god. No one actually gives a fuck if you're even good at apex.
What your fans want is YOU. They want YOU. They love YOU. Games are just a medium for them to interact with YOU.

>>49992866
it's a bit retarded though lol Selen missed a deadline, even admits it's her fault "BLACK COMPANY!!!", like I'm all for shitting on the company for things they actually did wrong but this ain't it

>>49993098
But still, Hololive are quite flexible, there's a lot of clips out there where their talents are late for stuff and no one in the management raise a stink.
It's just jarring to see how different the talents are treated.

>>49992809
Oof that's not how it works in Nijisanji. Livers share the burden. Unless you are Zaion of course it seems.

>>49993373
Read >>49993412

>>49993338
Her numbers kind of say otherwise though. Apex with pros 4-5k, play a random game 1k-2k, just a zatsu struggling to break 1k. Most people that watch her want to see her apex skills.

>>49993412
That happens lots in NijiEN too. Either this specific thing had a particularly rigid deadline or Selen didn't ask for an extension.

>>49993463
That's what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. Like those Souls streamers. Nobody gives a shit about them when they aren't streaming Souls.

>>49992689
>>49992981
For those who may not be familiar with the name acidreignz, he is a pl "friend" of selen, creator of her fan discord and project manager for majority of the dragoons projects, a very close friend with selen, she has also mentioned how she watch series and movies with her friend on discord

>>49981846
how much it cost to have a yacht in japan? probably 2x or 3x the cost in USA. if you have to pay a crew, then more like 6x

>>49993620
Who even started this yacht shit? Riku doesn't even own any yachts. His biggest property accirding to open japan registry is some fat condo in Tokyo.

>>49993680
What do you think he is collecting all that money for anon
It certainly isn't to pay his talents or his staff

>>49993734
Future endeavours? He is a venture capitalist hedgie. Always thinking about the next hustle.

>>49993680
having an yatch is a symbol for being ultra rich. Riku isn't rich enough.

>>49993463
She only plays apex.
The people that actually care about her are also the ones that give her money and chat with her. The apex randoms only benefit to her is boosting her viewercount.
They dont donate, they dont sub, they dont talk, they dont contribute.

>>49994197
Her Apex fans are her biggest gachis though

>>49994301
lol

>>49990538
Her manager doesn’t seem to like her just going off her contest shit.
>You’re not allowed to do prep work for the contest until you get your ticket.
Things go to shit and twitter is attacking the company
>why the fuck didn’t you prepare beforehand?
Either her manager is extremely incompetent or it’s malicious.

>>49980363
maybe she should stop being so obsessed with being shit at apex and pay attention to other things as well

>>49992689
Oof. Not a good look.

>>49980881
Holoraibu..

>>49992689
KEK

>>49994775
>twitter is attacking the company
Good