/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Fauna Hours soon!

>archived
/#/ is inclining

>Vesper sing
Damn

Botted streams

The Thread is being watched. Be wise.

>Hahaha VSPO domination
>Number disappear completely after the stream
Almost feel like those cartoon episode where the weak nerd get a taste of power once then immediately lose it after 1 day

>>49952436
TOTAL PAPIST DEATH
except Marine

>>49950836
Huh so report categories aren't related to what will actually take a post down

numbers?

>49952553
>trying to start this timeloop again

>>49952364
Do you think she had wellness days with her mom? Just imagine being this comfy and then having wellness

>>49952637

>>49952593
still not clicking it

Baelz homosucker defense force outed
He's going to start shitting on Pekora again

>>49952708
>clown homo
>1k
tempus savior...

>>49952708
Numbergore.

>>49952708
>Birthday review.
Isn't this the kind of stream that brings numbers?

>>49952708
Fauna can't start soon enough

>>49952708
Reimu won the 3view special olympics!

>>49952800
Be happy that they hear your voice, chud.

>>49952708
>Axel LoL
AIEEEEEEE WE FOUND THE KUZUHA OF EN

>>49952593
There's a bunch of stuff that's bannable but not outright reportable if that's what you're getting at.

>>49952708
Fauna WILL save us from this GRIM age with a kino 10K stream.

Can you imagine Fauna coming back after what felt like the most grim week and a half of EN streams and just getting a casual 10-12K?

>>49952674
reminds me that the thai lady who massaged me was for some reason having a hand full of my butt 3 times during my session, should've cupped a feel of her as well

GRIM

>>49952708
redhomo above axel wtf is happening

>LUMIMAGE
REDPILL ME ON THIS NEW WITCH!

Is she a friend of Milliemage? Can she take Watamage 1 on 1?

>>49953135
Dingo ended his stream, but they had comparable ccv on those streams. I think dingo's peak was 50 viewers bigger than twink's.

Speaking of Fauna, her last three MC streams were a downward trend, her peak reclined by 1k between each one.

Right but what do you think Gundou is doing?

>>49953264
Fauna just hasn't been the same since the yab. Many long time fans left her because they felt betrayed.

When someone loses a membership their comments under members post still show up? Or they stay there but without the members logo?

>>49953264
Her last MC stream was fully overlapped by Ina and the two before didn't have Mumei pop in

>>49953297
Chinese coal mines.

>>49953297
The investors

don't you ever get tired of trying to force everything into a yab?
are you incapable of just enjoying the streams unironically?

>>49953372
Fauna and Moom need to do more MC together. They don't even need to move in together to do it

Our response?

>>49953316
they stay there without the logo, they do keep the logo on the archived chat though

>>49953372
My bad it was Kronii not Ina

>>49953462
sir this is wendy's

>>49953478
Mayonnaise is NOT a drink

>>49953478
Shinomya Runa sex

>>49953504
Oh yeah? Watch me.

>>49953462
Drama is a form of entertainment.

>>49953309
Anon... She hasn't streamed MC since the yab. She only streamed 5 times after it before going on her break.

>>49953462
Homobeggars don't watch streams

Honestly if Bae beats Fauna then the western holofanbase is a lost cause.

>massive waiting rooms for Bae and Fauna
Is EN healing?

>>49953541

>>49953577
I agree, but I don't think that's happening.

>>49952800
crazy how Vesper and him are now the ones carrying Tempus (and Magni sometimes)

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>136,222: Nose (VSPO)
>115,551: Ema (VSPO)
>90,023: Runa (VSPO)
>33,013: AZKi (Hololive)
>30,667: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,256: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,900: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>15,083: Matsuri (Hololive)
>13,735: Botan (Hololive)
>12,778: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,502: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,173: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,370: Kizuku (Nijisanji)
>11,027: Polka (Hololive)
>10,890: Met (VSPO)
>10,857: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,307: Luna (Hololive)

>>49953491
Kronii is not overlap, she's in a different box now.

>>49952364

>Vedal 3k and skyrocketing to oblivion.
>Vei 16k
That's what you get by trying to pander to Twitch subhuman audience.

>>49953632
>CGDCT Fuana MC
>people bleed into baes cock-o-thon

This isn't going to end well...EN management is going to think we want more males.

>>49953552
Anon why did you reply to bait?

right thread king

>>49953476
Mumei will join Kronii's MC stream.

>>49952364
faunaaaa

>>49953632
>1.7k
>massive

>>49953714
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut
13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.20
15) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,757 - Marshmallow Reading + Announcement
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,970 - Chat GPT
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 81,111 - Sausage Legend Competition
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 94,193 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Towa (Hololive) - 82,943 - God Field Tournament
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,748 - Minecraft
21) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,131 - I'm on Observation Duty 5
22) Nose (VSPO) - 136,222 - 3D Debut

> PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji, VSPO

> PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
5x: Miko
3x: Marine
2x: Subaru
1x: Chloe, Hibari, Koyori, Mel, Nose, Towa

> 2023 GOLDS
> PER COMPANY
109x: Hololive
23x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
41x: Pekora
13x: Marine, Miko
6x: Subaru, Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>49953813
I mean it beats all the current EN streams right now

>>49953731
What happened with vei?
I dont keep up with twitchfag drama.

>>49953733
the EN girls could literally have a lesbian orgy on stream and EN management would think we would want more males

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>5/22 DAILY TALLY
7,457: Baelz (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)
13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)
15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast
16) Finana (Nijisanji) - 6,991 - Unarchived Karaoke (w/ Pomu & Elira)
17) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,197 - Valkyrie Connect (w/ Kronii)
18) Mori (Hololive) - 12,008 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Subaru & Botan)
19) Mori (Hololive) - 11,130 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
20) Mori (Hololive) - 10,629 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
21) Ina (Hololive) - 18,722 - Birthday Stream
22) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,457 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: IRyS
4x: Mori
3x: Fauna
2x: Mumei
1x: Luca, Gura, Amelia, Vox, Kiara, Finana, Ina, Baelz

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
37p: IRyS
28p: Mori
21p: Fauna
20p: Mumei, Ina
12p: Kiara
10p: Baelz
8p: Shu
6p: Amelia
5p: Luca, Gura, Vox, Finana
3p: Elira
2p: Bettel
1p: Ike, Pomu

>>49953889

>>49953875
G R I M
but also we're only entering the real NA hours now.

>>49953918
>1 entry tally
grim.

>>49952324
Thanks, my favorite student

>>49953930
fuck off KFPcuck

>>49953918
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
103x: Hololive
37x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: IRyS
12x: Fauna
10x: Gura, Mumei, Baelz
9x: Ina
8x: Amelia, Vox
7x: Kronii
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca, Finana
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
133p: Fauna
114p: IRyS
111p Mori
103p: Ina
98p: Mumei
89p: Baelz
69p: Vox
61p: Amelia
60p: Kiara
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
26p: Shu
17p: Pomu
13p: Finana
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny, Ike
10p: Elira
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka, Bettel
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>49953933
I remember when NA hours were so busy.

>620M views
how can vtubers even compete?
https://twitter.com/Culture_Crit/status/1613652392909897730

UNICORN BROS?

>>49953918
Kronii still hasn't gotten on the tally this month, feelsbadman.

>>49954187
GOD I WISH I WAS THAT STAFF

>>49954187
its fucking over

>>49954187
I'm staff san btw

>>49954187
I'm jealous

>>49954187
that staff? me

>>49954058
But aren't there objectively more EN streams than before?

>>49954187
lmfao what

>>49954187
Isnt covers staff like 90% women?
Anyways, that staff? Me.

>>49953918
No silver or bronze. Maybe, the cripple tally should start at 3k.

>>49954187
by staff she mean this cutie

>>49952933
Yeah like nsfw. Do they just get reported with any category?

>>49954356
I realise that the kys tally is already pointless, but that would make it even MORE pointless.

What kind of post will >>50000000 be?

>>49954213
No way, that can't be right.

>>49954213
How long until Mumei overtakes her in subs

>>49954356
The tally exists for people to get on it. Lowering the bar so that everyone can get on it is retarded even if half of Niji still wouldn't be able to reach 3k. Just leave it alone, if they fail to get 5k it's a skill issue.

>>49954187
lamy water...

>>49954619
Nah, it's right. All her collabs are on other channels and the few streams that were over 5k weren't good enough to make the top 3. She should make the tally on Tuesday and if she's hosting the council collab.

>>49954187
HIRE ME TANIGOX, I'LL BE HER DIAPER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I wish they'd update Holoearth chat so a chat room for various languages. So we don't have people chatting over each other in different languages.

>>49954187
you cant win in the game of vtubing because if management is:
female
>they are jealous, incompetent roasties that sabotage the girls while pushing homos
male
>they are horny perverts that sekuhara and rape your oshi
Can't win

>>49953918
Just going to post this and leave

>>49954868
>chat in difderent language
They will implement live translation AI so we can build the Babel of chuuba shitposting

>>49953883
3 of them fucked off from vshojo in the same week (silver, vei, nyan a couple of days later). Vei implied their contracts were a ripoff. I think they all joined mythic

>>49954677
If nothing new happens, about three months. But sub count is event-driven, so the gap might stay the same forever. Mumei just needs to do some music thing, a new song or a couple karaokes, then she'll catch up. But she can't do it right now. Kronii can fend her off by joining a couple Minecraft streams. Thrilling shit.

>>49954868
It should be 日本語 only.

>>49954917
ai for management when

>>49954402
nsfw actually is explicitly reportable (not work safe image on work safe board, only shows on posts with images). Typically off-topic or low quality are the catch-alls for stuff with no explicit option and one can always send feedback if it's bad enough, they do check it

>>49954822
The position has already been filled. There is however a position still open in holostars for a diaper manager if you are inclined to accept. thank you for applying to cover corporation.

>>49954805
Oh right I forgot about the Kronii Schedule Special.

>>49954579
>>40000000 was hags right? So cunny this time

>>49954967
Mumei has meme powers, she could cheat with shitpost videos and shorts.

but, the question is, can Hololive EN council 3D showcase top VSPO 3D debut?

>>49955132
They'll do worse than Myth.

>>49955132
No? I even forgot Council didn't have thier 3D showcase yet

>>49955132
>Holo vs VSPO

>>49955106 (me)
Oh, hags was >>30000000 and I guess that counts as cunny, so Oyakodon this time

>>49955132
EN fans don't watch streams

>>49955112
True. Especially now that actual Haachama is dead, Mumei needs to re-embrace being ENchama. Last time she did that was her peak # time.

>>49955132
No.

what is an idol? someone who strives to be better?

https://www.youtube.com/live/6j3ZzI9uOnw?feature=share
>2 hours until absolutely kino
1.1k waiting btw

>>49955349
Someone who wants to provide lonely people with entertainment and a good time, usually through singing, though in the vtuber industry there's comedy mixed in as well.

... So, unironically, Fauna lmao.

>>49955391
If it were any other holo I'd agree but it's Bae so no, you retarded phone poster.

>>49955349
maybe I should watch Idolmaster again

does anycolor actually ruin debut hype? I am no longer feel it bros, I still want a new gen for holos but it's not the same anymore

>>49955391
Based Fauna streaming MC 1 hour earlier, making sure the rat doesn't break past 7K and stays in her place.

>>49955532
she lied and said she'd read SCs when she gets back but did Minecraft instead...

>>49955438
EN aren't idols.

>>49955605
... to keep the rat down HYPER BASED all is forgiven.

A scheduled reminder that IRyS had the highest EN peak of 2022 and that stream remains undefeated as of May 2023

>>49954939
>IRyS
>IRyS
>IRyS
>IRyS
Gotta love IRyS.

>>49955349
the gap between aspiration and ability is the main thing, I think
idols are typically kinda bad at singing and dancing
the audience, having "got in on the ground floor," before their potential star really deserved to be a star, is devoted to seeing her learn and succeed
in return, the idol is devoted to her fans
this is, by Western standards, very "toxic"

>17k despite boyfriend debuff after leaving vshitshow
Holy incline, was it that bad in their shitcorpo?

>>49955391
Why is Bae streaming literal liberal propaganda? She does know it's leftist garbage, right? If not someone needs to @ her to let her know to drop this game before the troons start infiltrating. They're naturally attracted to cocks and will gravitate towards her because of it, thus destroying a once loving community

>>49955513
No Cover ruined debut hype themselves. They waited far too fucking long for EN3.
It's like going on a trip, you're all excited and waiting for your ride. Too bad your ride is 4 fucking hours late and at that point when it arrives you're just tired and annoyed.
At least for EN, JP is still doing fine.

VSPO gold for 2 more days right?

>>49955787
if Enna has taught us anything is that the cuck audience is growing

>>49955660
IRyS 2.0? Yeah thats going down in the HoloEN hall of fame. Only a Gura graduation can beat it

>>49955787
Veibae unironically mogging Gura's last stream rn

>>49955660
>scheduled
>only posted this today

>>49955787
I dont care enough to look into it but doesnt she have a new model and coming off of a few week break?

>>49955660
No one from EN will surpass that this year unless EN3 debuts

>>49955838
Numbers: EN ceiling crashed hard in 2022 and seems to be declining further in 2023, in addition to which the box has fractured, which leads me to believe EN3 debuts would lose to Council.

>>49955963
She basically redebuted

>>49955391
Fauna’s return overlapping is going to kill the waiting room recovery for what would have been a much stronger stream

>>49955820
Go back poltard

>>49955963
it her first stream after her indie "debut" which was on the 21st, and her second stream since march

>>49956075
YWNBAW

>>49955963
>Few week break
More like months. She's the same as gura except she gets a new model streams once oor twice and takes a break to get a new model and repeat

>>49955349
Someone who's not afraid to risk a bit of public humiliation by being bad at things in exchange for inspiring her fanbase by letting them see the object of their affection improve themself in real time.

>>49955963
The 17K stream rn is a stream with drops, so the numbers are inflated. Idk if people /here/ genuinely don't know how Twitch works, but, yeah, there you go.

>>49956025
Is more than likely that the EN3 debuts will lose to Council's, maybe even lose to Myth's, unless there's this massive audience who left in the past and will come back to just to see what's new on HoloEN.

>>49954986
ない

>>49954398
Why is staff wearing garterbelts on the clock? Is everyone who's part of Cover pure sex or something?

>>49953875
And those current en streams beat all 2 views. Being a faggot doesn’t mean a 1.7k waiting room is impressive

>>49955349
A hairless biped

>>49956025
I mean, are we just going to ignore all the shit the EN branch did themselves to make their ceiling crash?

I don't think EN3 would lose to Council. A lot of people are waiting specifically for EN3 to come back to HoloEN because they felt burned by Myth and Council.

>>49956369
>Myth and Council
Just Council. They ruined EN vtubing by being failures.

>>49956340
"featherless," Diogenes-chama
though of course all girls must be hairless
in the pants

>>49956025
I can't get vrabi to load its data from last year, but I'm not sure that the overall ceiling has gone down much farther after the initial crash. For instance, I think that the Halloween streams last year hit a ceiling similar to what was hit this weekend (30-35k-ish, again hard to be certain since I can't get vrabi to pull that date range). I do agree with the rest of your post though.

>>49956212
>and will come back to just to see what's new on HoloEN
HoloEN specifically failed to maintain activity and visibility, which are what keeps infrequent viewers from drifting apart completely. The demographic doesn't exist anymore, holoEN is just core fans.

>>49956305
Yes

>>49956417
So Bae or Fauna gold? What is your bet anons?

>>49956111
>Already bleed 4k from her last stream.
Also, Soda is streaming with only 9k(Average 17k), meaning it's his viewers watching her.
Not even tourists, just cvcks and trannies jumping to the newest shit.

>>49955606
The closest one to being an idol had her wings burn because she flew to high

>>49954939
>Only IRyS
The most beautiful think I've ever seen. Glorious.

>>49956519
Mori gold, just got a good feeling.

>>49955883
Newfag it’s not even top 5 of all en streams.

I think it's now too late to debut EN3 and too late to regain interest with events and consistent streaming.

>>49956519
Fauna because she starts first
That's how it goes

>>49956369
EN3 would need someone who streams a lot and be able to organize events. A good singer with good PR. A GFE moneymaker. The remaining two could be runts. I doubt they find someone like that.

So the Zaion thing is still spreading through JP space to the point they have a full writeup and it's being taken seriously enough for it to get posted by an ex Holo manager, though he was somewhat sarcastic in asking for a book report of it even if he was sharing it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YhH6WmsL_id1YIg4krWXUw2fR1cmR3PjiZ0fWs_tx-Q/edit

>>49956703
It's unironically never too late. All it takes is one girl in EN3 to understand how the YouTube algorithm works and we could actually end up with a Gura killer on our hands.

i dont watch twitchwhores much but is veibaes new model an intentional downgrade? it looks like a rariemonn from 3 years ago with nerfed facial reactions so she doesnt have to act as much

>>49956487
Part of that is also Cover's fault for not expanding the branch when they needed. Having only 10 members for over a year and a half isn't doing them any favors, and the whole investment in the homos only made things worse. If HoloEN had 15 members or, ideally, 20 right now it would be much easier to keep the tourists and maybe even turn then into core fans, but the lack of members coupled with the low variety of streams and the fact that half of them have a hard on for streaming on the exact same timeslot only contributed to the fracture of their box. People shit on Anycolor's ACCELERATE strategy with a reason, but Cover doing the extreme opposite is just as retarded and is only making people less likely to try for HoloEN when it feels like Cover is more interested in flooding the market with homos.

>>49956824
is it still done by neonbeat? that guy has a serious case of sameface

>>49956836
In not on. Just a grammar tip for the future.

waiting

>>49956482
Halloween had 15k and 12k with 2 povs. Mind you both of these are lower than the top 2 povs of 2021 halloween that had like 5 or 6

>>49956763
In my opinion, here's what they need:
>A hag. Someone like Lui who can just play the part of the tardwrangler, even if she doesn't get good numbers herself.
>A zoomer content machine who understands how to game the algorithm. This would be the Gura killer, in a perfect world.
>An Ina/Fauna. Someone with chill vibes who can build a high-ccv-floor audience.
>A half-jap, just to act as translator in JP collabs.
>And a GFE SC machine like Chloe, Rushia, Koyori, etc.

With these ingredients, I genuinely think EN3 could knock it out of the park.

>>49956821
You mean like Laplus who proceeded to debuff herself or Salami who got ignored by Niji? You just need someone dedicated enough to stream without being debuff. No amount of algo buff can save a menhera.

Perfect task for Holobros

>>49956824
It's simplified, about like the maid model she had when she got popular. If she's smart (not likely) she knows that's the ideal non-coomer model cuteness level.

>>49956999
I feel like "GFE types" in the west only means trouble in the long run

>>49956212
If IRyS could match Council debuts with a 2.0 reveal, a sort of debut lite, I can’t imagine EN3 having trouble beating council. Everyone will want to see what this long wait has been for. Think about how many newfags have never seen a Hololive debut live

>>49956487
>>49956836
Homobeggars make every excuse under the sky for en collapsing instead of the actual one. Being gay doesn’t change reality

>>49957149
"GFE" in EN means "lies constantly about everything."
In JP it's "lies constantly about everything but is still attractively crazy."

>>49957149
>I feel like
yeah we get it homobeggar, you're scared

>>49957120
I wonder if she's setting up her transition into fleshstreaming by de-coomering her stuff

>>49956900
Yeah, Mori also had a pov that was overlapping for a bit, but it's hard to get a proper grasp with just peaks. Something like https://vrabi.net/labo/progress/2023-05-21 is a better visualization of box size, but it doesn't go all the way back to Halloween.

>>49957149
I mean, kinda, yeah, but it's honestly an untapped market right now. With GFE being such a negative thing in the west, there is, and I'm being serious, a wide-open space for a chuuba to come in, put her tits on the table, and go "don't worry virgins, I'll be your internet gf" and just make millions.

It's the one, singular aspect of EN vtubing that is underrepresented right now because western women hate the concept of GFE. Even the whores hate it.

>>49957194
Gura can't even hit 70k with 3D

>>49957149
IRyS is doing pretty well though?

>>49957267
Hey now, some ENs are crazy, and a few are even more menhera than most JPs.

>>49956703
It is way beyond the ideal time to debut them but giving up is not a choice either. If Cover is smart (they rarely are regarding EN) then after EN3 debuts, either after the concert or hopefully a month before it, they should instantly start planing for an EN4 and debut them in early 2024, maybe as the first thing for their next fiscal year. Otherwise if they feel like it's not worth then just close the open auditions so they stop wasting the time of everyone working on their forms.

>>49957194
True. It might end up being bigger, but the last Hololive debuts were ID3's and they had worse numbers than ID2's even if they ended up as the much more popular gen.

>>49957214
>shits on Cover decision to push homos
>gets called a homobeggar
Wrong post or just retarded?

>>49956821
I just think it's an insurmountable challenge at this point.
People got bored of HoloEN due to inactivty, management won't allow any gimmicks that would put new talents on an even playing field with indie vtubers, and leaning into becoming idols won't work because 3D Lives never.
You're pretty much stuck with Minecraft and Karaoke if you're in HoloEN.

>>49957377 (Me)
Like, imagine for a moment a female Vox came along for Hololive. A chuuba completely willing to do girlfriend ASMR and tell her fans "I love you" without batting an eye.

Money printer.

>>49956369
It was pushed by that faggot yagoo and en management.

>>49956763
You’re a retard

>>49956999
You’re another retard

>>49957149
No you just watch lying whores
Yagoo set en on fire and gave certain members oil to make it bigger. Adding curtains to a burning house doesn’t fix it. In JP the girls move onto stars territory so it’s more or less fine. They pushed stars onto the girls territory and made it awful.

Fauna has the highest waiting room for a solo stream in weeks.

>>49957609
*For EN
Not counting Ina's birthday stream obviously

>>49957377
>put her tits on the table, and go "don't worry virgins, I'll be your internet gf"
isn't that what a bunch of the twitch ones do? Going only by raw numbers, leaving >twitch and youtube aside, there's an amalgamation of onlyfans/chaturbate/adult VAs whores over there with that content. Or I'm quite not grasping what you meant

>>49957393
I’ll skip repeating the usual cope if it’s the same to you
Debuts and 3D showcase are different. HoloX 3D was council debut level even though matching HoloX debut would be so deep into kneel territory for EN3. A 70k 3D showcase shouldn’t preclude 100k for EN3

>>49957377
>because western women hate the concept of GFE
But that's also why a GFE chuuba will never get off the ground - if they ever become popular enough to matter, they're going to get spit roasted by the moral crusade until they either quit or their audience quits because the moral crusade won't shut the fuck up. It's kinda like how PornHub used to be good until some "christian" advocacy groups convinced Visa + Mastercard to withhold payments. Or how basically no western chuuba was allowed to play Hogwarts Legacy without a rabid mob screaming in their ears.

>>49957669
No. What they do is put their tits on the table and go "I suck a bunch of cock every day lol. Oh, by the way, parasocialism is bad" ala Silvervale.

>>49957669
>bunch of the twitch ones do
that do actual gfe? nah, and even the ones that do end up yabbing in some way

>>49957593
>all those replies
>no intelligent input
Kek. You're the retard here just seething for no reason

>>49957377
>>49957567
Blatant GFE will always be cringe to the west and will only attract a very small amount of people to watch you. Skirting the line like some of the HoloEN currently do is a lot healthier in the long run than doing this and fear an explosion from the kind of attention it'll attract. Yes, those guys have deep pockets, but they'll also leave at any perceived slight against them and then poof, it's fucking gone.

does kson have the n word pass?

>>49957377
Miori...

>>49957794
retard

>>49957716
>if they ever become popular enough to matter, they're going to get spit roasted by the moral crusade until they either quit or their audience quits because the moral crusade won't shut the fuck up
It depends entirely on how the chuuba handles it.

Reminder, everyone. When Gura first debuted, there were COUNTLESS people online calling her a pedobaiting cunt. Some people still do that.

What did she do? She joked about it on stream and ignored it after. THAT is what you need to do to deal with the moral crusade.

>>49957567
I'd be worried about homobeggars harassing her if it's just one girl. If the whole gen committed to gfe the united front would help a lot so you don't end up with one girl/fanbase that gets isolated and harassed a lot.

>>49957716
you dont need to be super popular as a GFE. Just rope in a couple oil barons and if seething retards want to advertise you, all the better. if you cant be famous better to be infamous than a nobody.

>>49957497
10 girls is a problem but you believing there would be any noticeable drop had their been 0 debuts in 2022 is wrong. New girls are fun, new girls add to the audience but new girls do not stabilize an audience. It wasn’t a lack of debuts it was debuting homos. If we got en3 and then homos exact same situation would happen and people would be begging for en4 before them.

>Thrid worlders crying about MUH WEST
Look I’m sorry your parents divorced because your mom wouldn’t stop fucking soldiers at the local US base okay.

>>49957754
last i've heard silver didn't pull the parasocial shit on her chat, it's almost certain she's the one crazy for her chat from the shit i've read. She's extremely boring in the end, though

>>49957149
Nene Amano is literally the most popular small corpo in the west and her GFE is bordering on menhera levels. Like she literally went on a rant about how DDs make her feel like shes not good enough and she has to block them and her fans ate that shit up. So clearly there is a demand.

>>49957825
if she'd stayed in America she'd probably have a hilarious wigger voice
close enough

>gura killer
theres no need to kill a reclining chuuba

>>49958053
stop shooting kids at school

>>49958060
It was a discord thing. I'm sure some other anon has it saved but, basically, Silver was crying about how parasocialism is bad in a private Patreon discord.

>>49958068
>most popular
Phase clearly has at least 1 chuuba that is much larger and another that CCV is about the same as Nene. I'll agree Nene is probably 3rd among non-twitch things.

>>49957377
Retard there are meltdowns every other week when it turns out a gfe chuuba was lying in the west. You can’t be attractive and not a whore in the west unless she is truly religious or incredibly autistic. To be clear I don’t mean shy or weird because they also end up as whores

>>49958125
turns out the gura killer was management all along

>>49958033
then she'd be surrounded by groomers/schizos. Taking it to an hypothetical extreme

>>49958068
>most popular small corpo in the west
She’s a 3view who can manage 1k on KU100ASMR.

>>49954986
This isn't nijisanji mate

>>49957888
It's just a good thing Gura was so popular. If she was a runt crusaders would have probably forced Cover to change her design.

Fauna is gonna start on a 5k waiting room and then plateau at 8 because youtube is shit

>>49956776
SIEG ZAION

>>49957678
No their 3D debut was not the same level

anyone talk about Vox's concert (2D karaoke) yet?
https://www.ticket2u.com.my/event/31097/vox-akuma
$55 entrance I believe

Is Kaela currently leading for cripple tally?

>>49958042
I do agree that debuting the homos was a mistake, but the same thing happened with JP early on and look where they are now. Not only that but the treatment of them post-Tempus 2 completely changed and it seems that they slowed down the whole "muh HoloProEN" push considerably and possibly even scrapped it save for the twitter account. Unless the new leadership that took over is just as retarded as that vtweeter faggot and filters the girls for their willingness to collab with the homos the chances of more than 1 of the 5 new girls being a homocollaber are very small, especially when some of the current top performers for EN barely recognize the homo's existence.

>>49956203
I meeeean... It's Smite.

>>49958250
Oh, obviously. But we're just talking about what would make money here.

>>49958068
If you want to see actual schizophrenia go to /shon/ sometime

>>49958009
Homobeggars have shit power though. Definitely gonna lose to GFEfags who have actual power

>>49958384
Technically it's Kiara since Kaela is ID

right on time as usual

>>49958417
The kiara line...

>>49958068
>most popular
She's the highest earner, that's different.

Can't fucking believe Fauna's return stream will get mogged by gay sex

>>49957609
>>49957660
Gura’s streams, Irys karaoke, ina’s birthday, outfit reveals. Cucklings slowly becoming the worst fanbase

MY FRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD I MISSED YOU

>>49958457
It's the Pippa line now.

https://youtu.be/7B8CqQoep_Q
What's Aki doing in membership?

>>49957796
Homobegging faggot

>>49958529
Now send it an aka so I can shitpost about her response until the Baes cock stream

Decapitation yab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTBbyMCtg2U_MRPRe5n24M
>NijiEN
>NeoPorte
>VSPO
Odd combination of people specifically.

>>49958209
From what I recall, I read she dumped some stuff about how menhera she is and she was dumped by like 5 guys in the past, highlights being one LoL player (kek) that flung a chair at her in a tard rage and some cold autist that'd just keep scrolling on his phone and fucking off after railing her. I do remember some meltdown about her sending stuff to her top paypigs as well.

>>49958684
no, I am not actually a sapling but I did miss her

>>49958402
Homobeggars mainly use shaming, intimidation, and threats. You have to be mentally strong to deal with them since they're the worst sort of anti who will just publicly post hate toward Kanata/Hololive for example.

6.1K Fauna start. What are we predicting?

>>49958780
easy 12k

>I don't think EN3 would lose to Council. A lot of people are waiting specifically for EN3 to come back to HoloEN because they felt burned by Myth and Council.
Q: People want EN3?
A: Highest demand
Q: EN3 guaranteed good?
A: …….
Q: EN3 guaranteed good?
A: ………………………………….. I’m gonna be real and tell you GRIM

>>49958814
if she hits 5 digits I will be rather surprised, but I guess it's not impossible since it's a "return" stream.

>>49958780
11k max. Waiting rooms are weird for EN. And thats IF Bae doesnt siphon away viewers

>>49958780
9.9k because of youtube's fuckery

>>49958520
Does this look like 5.5k to you?
>Gura
She hasn't had a public stream in 2 week and was unironically less than 5.5k.
https://vrabi.net/video/yqlJcjo_00g
Same with Selen's outfit reveal
https://vrabi.net/video/ZjnRA9j1j3E
Ina's birthday is also a big event.

>>49958814
she doesn’t have the usual 3 hours to climb uncontested. bae starts in just an hour

>>49958775
don't forget that disingenuous TT faggot """parsing""" that playboy JP article. Basically planted the seeds desu

>>49958385
I’m sorry I don’t remember there being a huge welcome collab for them when they debuted in jp. In the world I live in they started off sectioned off. It’s too late to back off now, western viewers don’t like a change or being lectured yet they got both. That’s always been the problem

>>49958843
basically this, there was no hype for ID3 either but they showed that they were actually good and so they got numbers
Can EN3 be good tho? I have little hope

>>49958780
Really depends how many people Bae pulls away for her dumbass cock obsession stream. I imagine not THAT many but I think she'll limit this to about a 11k max.

Yo can anyone post that paint pic of numberfags yelling at Bae's stream? I really like that pic.

>>49959100
Then you should have saved it. But i agree. That one and the new one about Faunaschizo are my favorite

>>49958775
Homobeggars are weaker than antis. Shy would you think they can influence anything? They can't even incline their homos

>>49958220
>>49958281
Ccv is not the end all be all she is one of the most popular small corpo vtubers. Saying she’s the most popular though is hard to quantify. Only one western vtuber has an unattainable position as most popular everyone else is subjective

First army continues to be Marine, Pekora, Miko, Suisei, and Subaru.
If Gura can maintain her May numbers over a long enough time she could actually become first army and prove that not streaming = good.

The QUEEN is back!

Yeah another solo 10k

The Gura killer?

>>49959319
I hope Mumei's throat heals soon, I don't want her to get the IRyS treatment. Both in terms of health and the algorithm's whims.

>>49959319
this is looking like a 14k stream
SASUGA FAUNA-SAMA

>>49958190
Stop stabbing kids at school and strangers for that matter. Stop turning children into soldiers. Stop the massive amounts of rape. Make it so woman are safe enough that phones don’t have to turn on a mandatory shutter when they enter your country

Do you think Bae worried about her shit CCV?

>>49959368
>Drops

>>49958843
EN3 is not going to be good, they're going to hire more girls who look down on the fanbase and just do whatever they want which usually involves not streaming at all.
At this point you'd be lucky to get anyone who even says they like Hololive. I fully expect them to want to change the culture into an e-celeb hangout, and they'll successfully justify it by leeching numbers above what the inactive branch can manage anymore, and ditch 3D Lives entirely since they can't get Cover's help anyway.

>>49959411
If she was worried about it she'd spam Minecraft or some other buff like Mori was trying for a couple weeks there.

>>49953714
>3D debut relay?
>3D reveal?
>3D debut?
t. for vspo silver & bronze entries

>>49959368
EN GOLD
FAUNA WHO???

2K WAITING ROOM DORYAAAA

>>49948961
This anon will experience GFE... it's over...

>>49959455
Bae seems hates MC for no reason

>>49959368
>bf raid

>>49959411
>2 homos 1 girl watchalong on schedule

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1660802191907770369
Mumei is being GFE on twitter

>>49959447
You're not entirely wrong but we can hope that at least one decent girl gets in. I'm fairly certain we'll get 3-4 Kronii/Mori's who don't really appreciate the chance they've been given, but just gotta hope one sneaks by.

8.4K 17 minutes.
Unironically looking like a 10-12K stream.

>>49958843
The demand is the highest but the pool of people that actually care at this point have dropped quite a bit. Its not going to attract very many new people - tourists will just watch clips and actual stream watchers will be spread out over more streams. Thats not even getting into the quality of the hires who will probably know even less about Hololive than Kronii.

>>49958733
She’s brought up the guy that would fuck off after greasing before. If she still hasn’t realized she was a side she’s retarded

>>49959514
>thinking Bae even awares about Homo debuff

>>49959253
Homobeggars are merely a weaker version of antis, mostly because they don't actually care about anyone involved in their begging and are just there to beg for a while before fucking off. The danger is that not enough people recognize that they're antis, so their voices get heard and stuff gets steered in a direction that nobody actually cares about because of the "popular demand" mirage.

>>49953504
I drink BBQ sauce.

>>49959516
Not to mention drops. For those of you who don't get how drops work, fleshtubers who average 5k ccv can literally get to 50k on streams that have them.

Drops are massive ccv inflators.

>>49959528
I know it's outside of her usual time but wasn't that expected desu? She has an hour of open road to build up and her solo, non-overlapped minecrafts often do that well.

did Patra graduate already?

>>49959034
True, but why are you ignoring how the branch completely changed it's tune after Tempus 2? Their first collab with HoloEN is happening 4 and a half months after their debut, and Rrat herself haven't collabed with any of the Tempus faggots in a long while. The only ones that still have any consistent collabs with HoloEN are the purple fag and the menhera boomer and they lowered the frequency considerably compared to late August/September of last year. The only problem the new girls will have to deal with if they're on the no-homos team is dealing with the beggars but even reddit is getting sick of these cunts.

>>49959582
Yeah she doesn’t. If she cared about her numbers, she would think about how to improve them and what isn’t working

>>49959524
yeah Animal's

>>49956763
>EN3 need a GFE moneymaker.
Show me one good GFE chuuba from EN?
oh Ame. Improved yourself.
oh Kronii. Do you not have female friends.Unfortunately-
oh the glorious GFE queen Fauna. Be real shouldn't be friends.
A GFE moneymaker in EN3 would be hard to find. You should thankful if an EN3 doesn't turn against her fans.

>getting mogged by indies like Veibae
Gura let HoloEN die the question is was she justified?

>>49959607
what are drops?

>>49953918
>winner is a guerilla karaoke at like noon

>>49959516
even if you assume all 7k of her bf viewrs stayed, that's still 13k on her own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4EgYj8_vhM
>89k in 3 days
Is that good for a short?

>>49958901
Faggot it wasn’t 5.5k at the time and you said weeks not 2 weeks

>>49959688
If you watch you get free shit for whatever game their playing if your twitch account is linked to your account in that game

>>49959684
I literally have incest relationship with Mumei

>>49959293
Wow, HoloEN used to stream so much.

Whos taking gold, fauna or mori?

>>49957267
>"GFE" in EN means "lies constantly about everything."
>In JP it's "lies constantly about everything but is still attractively crazy."
Not necessary. If the chuuba is single then she doesn't have to lie at all.

>>49959657
>tempus2
i wonder how those guys feel about the 180 on the collab stance

>>49959819
>Unarchived Karaoke
Probably Mori unless Fauna and Bae steamroll all over it

>>49959615
Well, ofc, but the narrative /here/ is that EN in general is reclining.

If she hits her "normal" MC count, that would mean:
>EN is reclining (except Fauna)

>>49959368
fags ITT won't admit holoen and nijien are doomed and have a really hard time reaching even 10k
the future for western vtubing seems to belong to "not agency" agencies like Mythic

>>49959293
I know you’re shitposting but she’s normally 6-8 in the entire company.

not fair when NijiEN is always under heavy overlap

>>49959411
Dunno about CCV but she tried multiple times to catch up on Fauna subs, until she gave up completely.

>>49959819
deadbeat, do you really believe that she can get at least 10k?

>>49956999
>In my opinion, here's what they need:
>A hag. Someone like Lui who can just play the part of the tardwrangler
Kiara: Please answer.

>>49959745
Importantly, Twitch still counts you as a viewer even if you just have the stream muted in the background, as you do whatever else.

That's why drops inflate ccv so much.

>>49959745
sounds like an ultra buff

>>49959819
Veibae.

>>49959819
Fauna. Mor karaokes havent done well in a while.

>>49959887
It's good to be back in FST

>>49959819
I don't think Mori can get 10k with a normal unarchived anymore, let alone the 11-12k Fauna may get so I'd bet on Fauna.

>>49955787
If you're talking about Veibae her boyfriend isn't a debuff, being a famous streamer, he's a buff. Most of her present audience are just his viewers. It's a debuff for Nyanners because her boyfriend is just some 3k scrub.

>>49959708
There’s still drops viewers.

>>49959830
NAME THIS NON-WHORE (one of one)

9k doryaaaa

9k DORYAAAAAAAAAA

9k DORYAAAAAAAAAA

>>49959916
God bless Kiara, she tries, but she's not a tardwrangler all the time. Just sometimes.

>>49959857
this shit feels like another machinima in the making

>>49959523
Mori isn’t the same as kronii. She just genuinely believed her popularity was based on her talent and not Gura/Hololive. It happens though

>>49959852
Return stream is still a buff for Hololive. Only getting the normal viewer count wouldn’t be a good sign

>>49959887
at this point MC is just a staple for everyone, I saw my female cousin playing MC on her phone

>>49959920
makes me remember fextralife and their inflated viewership

>>49959379
Ate you joking anon?

>>49959688
you watch drop active streams X hours you get Y rewards, some games have very narrow whitelisting one of the most infamous was Rust where every single streamer had is own skin via drops, ludicrous viewership buff

>>49960043
>Return stream is still a buff for Hololive.
No it the fuck isn't why do you fags keep saying this

>>49959830
Yeah, how hard is it to keep your damn legs closed for a few years while raking in money to retire in your 20s? Afterward you can hire all the pool boys you want.

>>49959967
Last week was pretty shit. If not for IRyS i wouldnt have watched any streams except Inas Bday

>>49959995
>>49960000
>9K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>49956212
They won't lose to Myth, the Japanese side is just so massive now they'll have enough tourists, just like IRyS redebut and Sana graduation. Beating Council debuts is another story.

Unironically, this Veibae stream is proof of why we don't count Twitch numbers /here/. Half of the people in her ccv are keeping her stream muted in a separate tab and are still getting counted because Twitch metrics are dumb.

>>49959493
Man korone really turned being athletic into dance skill

>>49959719
Not really

I just found mom ntr genre in catalog
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1779277549?t=00h24m55s

How is EN3 supposed to remain a cohesive unit when half of them will run off to do Vesper / Magni collabs right after the ban is over? Council had 1 year and a Sana graduation to form strong bonds over before Tempus entered the equation but if you insert male collabs into the equation early on in a new girls career that's completely uncharted territory.

>>49960123
source?

>>49960123
Sounds like sour grapes

>>49960123
cope harder

>>49960071
Yeah, I usually just put it on as 240p muted while playing a game over it. Twitch gonna count you anyway.

>>49960123
>muted
this isn't a thing for years now, but as always you can't compare different platform numbers just within same one.

Isn't $350 kind of small for sponsorship stream?

>>49959964
doesn't help that faggot's case that one of the first thing you read about him is that he messes around with music making and did some annoying as fuck meme song

>>49960141
Why are you so certain that they'll do this?

>unironically newfag vtrannies
lmao

>>49960299
it was internal

>>49960243
>this isn't a thing for years now
No, if you mute the video player, you don't get counted as a viewer and you don't receive drops.

But, if you mute the tab you get counted as a viewer and receive drops.

>>49960299
It was cover giving them bonus money to shill it again, not a full on sponsorship from the creators of amogus

>>49960149
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/understanding-viewer-count-vs-users-in-chat?language=en_US
>Does a muted stream count as a view?
>Yes! Whether you mute the video player on Twitch, or the browser tab, you still count as a viewer so long as live video is playing.

>>49960299
It looked like Cover's money...

only thing dropping are HoloEN and NijiCN numbers

>>49960331 (Me)
The source is me. I did this for League and it worked, and I got drops and I got counted as a viewer way back in the day.

>>49960243
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/understanding-viewer-count-vs-users-in-chat?language=en_US
Does a muted stream count as a view?
Yes! Whether you mute the video player on Twitch, or the browser tab, you still count as a viewer so long as live video is playing.

>>49960331
>No, if you mute the video player, you don't get counted as a viewer and you don't receive drops.
Unless they changed this in the last 3 months then this is false because I always did that and got drops without any problem.

>>49960299
it's literally bonus money

>>49960331
I did it for the starrail thing recently and muting it worked as long as I had the stream as the main window.

>>49960343
Ah shit, is this why they don't stream anymore? They just wait until a bounty gets posted?

>>49960391
I already know that, but you said half of the viewers are doing this which is something you can't prove.

>>49960413
Ah okay then I'm just unlucky as shit.

>>49960303
>thinking Cover will hire girls who are against homo collabs after they started pushing the homos so much

>>49959389
Give up mutt, your country is a literal shithole. Saying the U.S. is a first-world country is like saying Aqua is part of the first army.

10k soon lads

Subaru or Roboco gold today?

>>49960299
Think of it like your boss giving you a $350 giftcard for showing up to an optional 2 hour workshop on your day off in additional to your normal salary.

>>49960403
>Stagnation from not debuting new girls gen
>Saturation from accelerating the branch into a wall
They kinda are

>>49960473
Yes, you can. Look at what a normal stream is like and then look at how their drops stream is doing.

Anon, I literally watched Yassuo reach 50K ccv with drops and then drop to 5K ccv the instant the drops stuff ended. Critical thinking reps...

Vei/Mythic aside, I do think the broader EN vtuber scene is slowly becoming more Twitch/Indie dominated over time.

>>49960473
ah you never saw what a fuciking shitfest Valorant Beta via drop was uh

>>49957377
>GFE being such a negative thing in the west
This. And the worst part is the western chuuba themselves think GFE is wrong. You cant tell something is right when you think it's wrong. You will slip up. Here's a comparison between someone who doesn't embrace GFE inside her heart and someone who does.
Fauna -> should be friends
Kanta -> nothing wrong with males, but I have my ideals
> Even the whores hate GFE
Of course whores hate it. What are you even talking about. GFE is the opposite of being a whore.

>>49960549
Subaru 99,9%

>>49959607
>Drops
>in Smite
yeah that added all 100 people who play that game

>already 9700
She's really gonna hit 10k before the hour.

so the debut buff is wearing off?

>>49960477
There's a chance the account link broke for you. This happened with me before and I fixed by just doing the whole process again.

>>49960503
>ignoring how Tempus 2 didn't had a single collab with HoloEN for 4 and a half months after debut
Also Omega is dead. Your only hope for this to happen is if the higher ups back in Japan are willing to sacrifice HoloEN for the sake of Tempus. And before you ask me for source, here https://files.catbox.moe/6onzn8.mp4

>>49960588
That would be more than half, retard. You're just making up numbers.

>>49960719
I mean she would usually get what? 1-2k before? I imagine she'll return to close to that eventually.

>>49960607
It's more like twitch vtubers are slowly moving into being integrated into the normal twitch streaming scene instead of being a separate category. You'll end up with hybrid streamers that just their vtuber model some of the time. Eventually people that like or care about Japanese-based vtubing like Ironmouse will be the odd ones out.

I hope this stream will not surpass da squad, the shitposting would be unbearable .

>>49960607
Indies and small corpos figured out the first half year after Myth debut that trying to be a bootleg Hololive doesn't work so they all went the twitch route.

>>49960717
Not if she doesn't stop nerding the fuck out and actually play

>>49960757
Retardchama...

>>49960719
she was a low 4view on twitch, right? do VOMSfags/pikafags watch her?

>>49960834
I accept your concession.

>>49959657
You can’t course correct anymore. ID3 was somehow a group of “stars fans” despite having 6 debuts and not getting 1. Before you bring up ollie she’s a fan of 3 view indies it’s just a word to her but even she prefers hololive girls overall. Mori has to clarify only girls when she thinks about a collab now. And the most important one is there will be more homos possibly before the girls. They broke the bowl no matter how clean the repair looks it won’t be the same

What is the name of the yandere flower?

>>49959830
Or just not be overtly thirsty. Like DTL. Or Miilky, as a recent example.

Has VSPO passed HoloEN as the 2nd biggest branch of vtubers?

>>49960719
>People here the instant henya debuted: HOLY SHIT, 12k ccv streamer! Hololive killer!
>Cut to the present.
Wow, it's almost like literally everyone who isn't a VShill could see this coming. Damn.

>>49960790
Most small corpos are on youtube, only a handful on twitch like Lumi.

Get your pitiful 10k doryaa ready anons
for a fucking Minecraft Return stream taking so long to reach it it's laughable

i wish i could be faunas friend :( why did she have to say that...

>>49960972
For views, yes.
I don't know anything about their merch situation, though.

>>49961008
KFPseethe

Get your pitiful 10k doryaa ready anons
for a fucking Minecraft Return stream taking so long to reach it it's laughable