/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49892436
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Why is Fauna schizposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGz6C-h5u74

>>49892472
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>38,131: Pekora (Hololive)
>35,589: Pekora (Hololive)
>30,554: Marine (Hololive)
>29,897: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,785: Toya (Nijisanji)
>20,812: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,333: Ina (Hololive)
>20,023: Met (VSPO)
>16,634: Fubuki (Hololive)
>16,541: Ange (Nijisanji)
>16,220: Korone (Hololive)
>15,567: Luna (Hololive)
>15,258: Chiroru (Indie)
>14,965: NeruMero (Indie)
>14,433: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,342: Mio (Hololive)
>14,257: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,973: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,399: Korone (Hololive)
>13,350: Noel (Hololive)
>12,979: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,703: Lui (Hololive)
>12,634: Noah (VSPO)
>12,152: Towa (Hololive)
>12,005: Ina (Hololive)
>11,968: Enna (Nijisanji)
>11,961: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>11,854: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,748: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,199: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,173: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>10,068: Patra (Indie)

>>49892476
>>49892313
It's the anxiety I feel on a Sunday evening, knowing I have to call in early to fix whatever someone broke over the weekend.

>>49891818
>Have you forgiven Ame
Flirting with or simping for Tempus is an issue. But the far greater issue is attacking fans in attempt to defend Tempus. She valued Tempus that appeared recently and has never supported her, more than fans who supported her for years. Dropped her in an instant and never looked back.

>>49892525
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut
13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.20
15) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,757 - Marshmallow Reading + Announcement
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,970 - Chat GPT
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 81,111 - Sausage Legend Competition
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 94,193 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Towa (Hololive) - 82,943 - God Field Tournament
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,748 - Minecraft
21) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,131 - I'm on Observation Duty 5

> PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
5x: Miko
3x: Marine
2x: Subaru
1x: Chloe, Hibari, Koyori, Mel, Towa

> 2023 GOLDS
> PER COMPANY
109x: Hololive
23x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
41x: Pekora
13x: Marine, Miko
6x: Subaru, Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

i wish there was an easy way to check who is streaming right now

>>49892476
It's a cry for help that the lack of EN3 has. Even on the current talents.

>>49892595
>>49892472

Fauna has entered schizo hours

>>49892476
she's on her wannabe junji ito shit again

>>49892595
anon?

>>49892582
>20x: Hololive
Remember when the nijinig posted in march that it will be the last month where hololive wins? kek good times

>>49892595
vrabi: https://vrabi.net/live
vstats: https://www.vstats.jp/realtime

Between both there are some 800 vtubers, and on vrabi you can filter by your favorite branch as well

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>5/21 DAILY TALLY
18,722: Ina (Hololive)
14,257: IRyS (Hololive)
12,005: Ina (Hololive)
11,968: Enna (Nijisanji)
6.808: Mori (Hololive)
6,712: Mumei (Hololive)
6,141: Finana (Nijisanji)
5,106: Amelia (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)
13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)
15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast
16) Finana (Nijisanji) - 6,991 - Unarchived Karaoke (w/ Pomu & Elira)
17) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,197 - Valkyrie Connect (w/ Kronii)
18) Mori (Hololive) - 12,008 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Subaru & Botan)
19) Mori (Hololive) - 11,130 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
20) Mori (Hololive) - 10,629 - TTRPG (w/ Kronii, Magni, Vesper)
21) Ina (Hololive) - 18,722 - Birthday Stream

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: IRyS
4x: Mori
3x: Fauna
2x: Mumei
1x: Luca, Gura, Amelia, Vox, Kiara, Finana, Ina

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
37p: IRyS
28p: Mori
21p: Fauna
20p: Mumei, Ina
12p: Kiara
8p: Shu
6p: Amelia
5p: Luca, Gura, Baelz, Vox, Finana
3p: Elira
2p: Bettel
1p: Ike, Pomu

>>49892582
>20x Hololive
>1x Nijisanji
Did the Chinese fujos just stop caring about Niji? Why?

>>49892778
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
102x: Hololive
37x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: IRyS
12x: Fauna
10x: Gura, Mumei
9x: Baelz, Ina
8x: Amelia, Vox
7x: Kronii
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca, Finana
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
133p: Fauna
114p: IRyS
111p Mori
103p: Ina
98p: Mumei
84p: Baelz
69p: Vox
61p: Amelia
60p: Kiara
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
26p: Shu
17p: Pomu
13p: Finana
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny, Ike
10p: Elira
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka, Bettel
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Maria, Pippa, Nina

** 365 DAYS SUM OF SUPERCHAT DONATIONS **

>>49890231 :: Fauna
>>49890549 :: Mori
>>49891023 :: Kronii
>>49891421 :: Bae
>>49891825 :: Mumei
>>49892192 :: IRyS

For sake of completeness, here is Ame. Similar chart as Mori, recline through and through,
>AGAIN: that first peak and drop is the first anniversary of monetization, with that point being the last point where SC are only added to the chart but not removed
From that point forward SC more than one year old is subtracted from the chart

>>49892778
>Top 4 bigger numbers than half the golds this month
Just one of those days.

>>49892476
This is the second time she's used this premise. Does she secretly want some mystical force to take her away from this plane of existence or something?

Realistically will this give her clicks? The game looks like absolute kusoge but the "haha dicks" crowd should show up to see how she responds right?

>>49892890
daaaayuuuuumm

>>49892890
Thanks anon, pretty interesting data. Are you planning on doing NijiEN as well?

>>49892778
Her new outfit is so sexy bros

>>49893020
>haha dicks crowd

So homobeggers?

>>49893046
>Are you planning on doing NijiEN as well?
Planning is too strong of a word, I was not planning to do anyone but Mori but curiosity got the best of me and I ended up doing the whole HoloEN.

I might do NijiEN but I can't commit on a timeline because there are 30 of them and I wouldn't even be able to scrape all
>playboard rate limit as fuck
LOE and Luxiem, for sure, in a point in the future

>>49893020
Don't know but I expect IRyS to stream it tomorrow or at 9AM JST the same day.

How do we save /#/?

>>49893151
Yeah that's completely fair, Playboard is a pain.
>LOE and Luxiem, for sure, in a point in the future
Those two are honestly what I was most interested in, so happy to hear it.

>>49891889
>>49892252
Except you can check the amount she streamed. She’s worse than Gura when it comes to consistency so that wouldn’t be it

>>49893182
Save it in which way? From dead air or like shitposting?

>>49892890
And here is Ina. Same pattern as the rest of Myth, except with an extra bounty which entered and left her chart around May 2021-2022 (birthday for sure)

hololive seems to be on a pretty bad downward trend
this is comparing a year ago the top 30
and when it was 1.5 years ago, it was constantly hitting 100k views at top 30

>>49892976
I would do unholy things to this priestess

>>49893248
>hololive seems to be on a pretty bad downward trend
The whole industry is following suit, ever since Youtube change the algo, and also every since they split the live tab from the video tab and added the shorts tab.
I'm sure the same is going on with Nijis, and with the exceptions for both sides being
>songs that go viral on tiktok
or
>songs that get the drop on the Cover and beat the competition for mindshare

>>49892574
> attacking fans
pretty sure all she did was a slightly mean spirited prank

>>49893341
Seeing that IdolEN chuuba incline from just shorts is proof of that too. Youtube wants the tik tok crowd for whatever reason.

>>49893248
https://youtu.be/U2jl3QIoVws

>>49893248
thank retarded people working at youtube for that

>>49893248
Just so you know those same songs are still growing pretty well they just aren’t on the list. They need to show off their skills instead of relying on meme songs. They try to get close to the original instead putting their spin on it like before

>>49892890
>>49893245
And last, Gura. Same pattern as the rest of Myth, with one exception
>her numbers stabilized since January
Not for the best reasons tho: the reason is because her lack of frequency is completing one year now, so few streams in the past and the present resulted in similar (and few) SC donations in both ends of the 365 days range.

>>49893533
>And last, Gura
No Kiara?

>>49893248
It's just hard to make hololive song viral today compared to last year. It's probably algo change

>>49893248
First of all, the guy who makes those videos cut out covers > 1yr old...though having said that, the numbers did suddenly fall through the floor Sept-Oct ish last year before the 50 > 30 and 1yr changes. However, it seems to be less Hololive, more specifically covers vs. originals. The same guy does an originals list every 2 weeks, but even if you cut the displayed numbers in half it seems like a ton of originals are doing the numbers the covers used to. See picrel - if you chop that number in half for weekly it's ~46k for Raimei.

>>49893445
They want to win at everything. Twitch started growing so they did livestreams, vine started growing so pushed short form content, now tiktok is growing so now they’re pushing actual shorts with the ability to pay creators a fraction.

>>49893445
The idol chick is not even the best example. This bloke right here
https://www.youtube.com/@akeminekomachi/about
will be the first indonesian vtuber outside of Hololive to beat 1M subs and exclusively on account of shorts

>>49892890
is it possible to check Kaela? just saying

>>49893572
>No Kiara?
Oh, way, you're right. Kiara will follow, a "& IRyS" moment

>>49893248
holy retard slowpoke

>>49892890
>>49893245
>>49893533
And last+1, Kiara. Same as the rest of Myth

>>49893623
>1m indo bloke
NTA but he has 600 videos but only 40 are shown.

>>49892890
Any meaningful deeper observation or discovery?

>>49892574
Yeah, this
I wasn't gonna like the collabs but it wasn't the reason I dropped her since she's always been a saviorfag
Her so easily telling her viewers of two years to fuck off and rubbing it in with love song duets on behalf of some troon loving fags stung a lot
Really sucks that I still haven't found anyone I enjoy as much as I did her

>>49893623
so anyone can incline if they hit the shorts jackpot?
Why dosent cover do this with their shitters?

>>49893904
because it will look like vox's channel

>>49893804
>NTA but he has 600 videos but only 40 are shown.
That's because youtube is retarded and split it in the three tabs: videos, shorts, live.
Then this short
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSGXabqEj4Q
went viral (for God knows what reason) and from that point on he picked 900k subs.

He started the year with some 90k subs, for reference

>>49893871
The culture in Hololive has changed from SC to membership and merch
Also because HoloEN or actually the whole EN vtubing has lost rich people since they came via anime and went back to spending on Anime

>>49893969
This. Holo caught the boom of EN + worst anime seasons + COVID.

>>49893533
I doubt this is accounting for the currencies weakening. The yen alone dropped by 22%.

>>49893904
Cover should look into it. If the algo picks up on ONE of them they can tap into that market of millions of mega normies flipping through their phones.

>>49893969
It might just be a few people, but I do know of some Whales that lost a shit ton on crypto and stopped super chatting as much.
Might not have been a big factor though

One more day

>>49893904
>Why dosent cover do this with their shitters?
Because Cover doesn't have any "shitter", not on the female side at least.
Lowest subbed Holo girl is on 620k subs (Kaela), people trying to teach Cover how to get subs for their vtubers are really really delusional.

And for each Akemi which hit the jackpot there are thousands of literally who's that tried, failed and pushed away their regular audience with unfruitful shorts spam

>>49893199
I'm guessing you're scraping hololyzer as well? Too bad they didn't add Nijisanji until sometime mid last-year (for the sake of number scraping).

>>49894087
I said cover anon, that includes stars.

>>49894043
>I doubt this is accounting for the currencies weakening. The yen alone dropped by 22%.
I'll go out of a limp and assume most of HoloEN donations are in USD, whose value in 2023 is exactly
>1 USD

>>49893904
Because they aren’t retarded like you. Cover doesn’t make money by faking status like tiktok stars they need actual fans

>>49891918
Just use Hololyzer instead of doing this stupid “the fact that my data is massively inaccurate doesn’t matter or affect anything at all” shit.
If Playboard missed one stream it likely is missing a bunch more and not just from Fauna making this chart worthless.

>>49894087
>Kaela has the least subs
It's not fair bros

>>49893969
>>49894036
Must be fun being dumb

Looking at Twitter it seems the 50/50 split is gonna take effect starting next month. Wonder if we are gonna see any twitch streamers trying out youtube again.

>>49894133
Nobody gives a fuck about the stars, even the stars themselves.
There is absolutely zero preventing them from doing just that, except there is no upside.

All of those people got lots of subs, some even got a short lease in their live audience but they didn't get any permanent audience out of it.
There is a reason Watame stopped putting her "Girigit Warukunai" series as shorts and returned it as uploads
>money is better as a VOD
>the increased viewership of shorts have a worse conversion to permanent audience

>>49891818
>She hasn’t collabed with Tempus if you ignore that time she collabed with Tempus
If you don’t count Squad collabs Mori and Kronii haven’t collabed with Homos since Tempus2 released. Fucking pants on head retard.

>>49893904
Getting a shorts audience is only slightly better than just botting yourself for subs. They won't watch your streams and the spam drives actual viewers to unsub at worst or just ignore your uploads at best. What has Selen's massive sub growth done for her CCV? Fillian's the only one who has ever really been able to capitalize on it and that's by making smart moves to attact that sort of audience where they live, twitch, by becoming friends with famous flesh streamers ect.

>>49894187
Using Hololyzer is in the plans but the scrapper is not done yet.
It doesn't change the trends either way and it is the exact same set of numbers used for most of the superchat numberfagging in this thread since before Hololyzer even existed.

In Japan anime and nowadays vtubers are part of the lifestyle
In the west its a luxury, if you have to drop something you will drop your luxury hobby first. The content is not frequent and the quality has dropped.

>>49894205
She'll pass Anya soon. One of the ID4 girls will get stuck with least-subbed after that.

Just 60 days to go ENbros!

>>49894440
At this point might as well get the record and beat the Shitter branch that actively asked to not expand.

Fauna's lack of eye mobility in her model takes a lot of life away from her expressions and should be addressed

Sorry Ayame, having chat enabled in your channel is for grownups
>Ay𝐚me w𝐚s frustr𝐚ted her ch𝐚nnel got l𝐚belled 𝐚s Kids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b18cGPCUOYU

>>49894440
There's a non-zero chance jp ends up passing it too, unless you think jp7 happens before late october

>>49893904
If you get 100,000,000 shorts view’s you’ve earnt enough to maybe get a extra fancy lunch. Holos make more on SC reading ad revenue than they would on shorts revenue.

>>49892476
Is this the prologue to some longer story? Sounds interesting. Like some Junji Ito shit

>>49894515
If not for Mumei she would be Rariemonn's worst rig and the fact that the outfits after use it as a base means it'll never be fixed unless she gets a whole ass 2.0

>>49894551
JP7 is happening this summer.

>>49894520
Sorry pekora, but ayame is the NEW hero of the children.

>>49894440
Since Myth debuted, how many things were done correctly by EN management?
Should also compare it to reigns of Mr Japs.

>>49894588
No it's just a oneshot

Is there any Holo that have overlapping bday?

>>49892976
Why does Ina get good lewds. She never coom baits. Is that reason? Same as Suisei?

>>49892890
>>49893245
>>49893533
>>49893788
And last+2, Fauna again, but without the "CCVID" bar because it makes no sense on a SC revenue chart

>>49894139
>I’ll assume
When you assume you make an ass out of u and me. These are SCs for Mori’s BDay. USD is not even half. This is why I can never take your graphs seriously.

>>49894616
Releasing Tempus was not a bad decision in itself, YES it was too late, YES the models are ugly... but they needed a StarsEN gen
Releasing Tempus 2 right after 6 months and delaying EN3 because of Stars debut was and will be THE biggest mistakes of Cover

>>49894616
A change in management wont show immediate affects. They still have to honor the obligations the previous management set. it can take anywhere from weeks to over a year for new management projects to start baring fruit.

>>49894440
comparing star jp with holoen is like comparing orange and apple.

Mio doko?

>>49894734
>they needed a StarsEN gen
Why though

>>49894734
>but they needed a StarsEN gen

>>49894071
23 hours and 8 minutes actually

>>49892890
>Yet another set of charts where Fauna is the only EN not reclining
Really makes you think.

>>49894734
>but they needed a StarsEN gen

>>49894646
Risu and Oga
Watame and Astel

>>49894781
Cant let your competitor to have monopoly on the whole male vtuber market.... as I said, it was too late but nevertheless it was required

>>49894734
>but they needed a StarsEN gen

>>49894551
100% im expecting a stealth drop around july/April. Maybe late June.

>>49894734
>they needed a StarsEN gen
u foken wat
>>49894849
>Cant let your competitor to have monopoly on the whole male vtuber market
Ah, you're retarded, I see.

>>49894765
Yea, starsJP are treated far better than holoEN, no comparison.

>>49894635
Ahh thats a shame

>>49894849
retard

>>49894133
None of the Stars are interested in doing this, at least from the JP side. Maybe Aruran can be convinced to try it out since he's a numberwhore and is trying everything to incline, but the rest is either comfortable with their strategies to grow his audience (Roberu, Astel, Gamma) or just couldn't give less of a shit about it (everyone else). As for the EN homos who knows, none of them really seems that eager to try out shorts.

>>49894734
I'll agree with you, although *need* is a strong word and perhaps not applicable to the situation, I don't blame them for at least trying a Stars EN. Not following that up with a new Holo Gen in say October was a big mistake. Debuting Tempus 2 so soon after was worse.

>>49894771
deepL: Sorry; I overslept and I'm sorry, but I have a bad headache and I'd like to take the day off today I'm sorry you had to wait for me...

http://poal.me/fqwrvp

>>49894789
>>49894810
>>49894857
whether you unicorns like it or not, it is better to have Cover be the top for both female and male than giving Niji a win in the male vtubing department
As I tribalist I want total domination

>>49892890
I love Fauna and her graphs

>>49895019
Hello Kris

>>49894221
That's for the subscriptions, right? Before that what was the split, 3/4 for the streamer and 1/4 for Twitch? Maybe we'll see more of them trying youtube out, and since you can use streamlabs they don't need to care about the scs split.

>>49895012
Whos yellow lamy

>>49894551
JP7 is next

>>49894734
>needed a StarsEN gen
so this is the logic of prime homobeggar huh

>>49894734
>they needed a StarsEN gen
They needed a separate box of maybe 5k viewers who destroyed all online hololive fan communities?

>>49895019
Might as well debut some twitch holos then so they can dominate that too. And fuck it, lets go back to China!

>>49894734
>needed a StarsEN gen
Woah anon, I've repeated the idea that launching a StarsEN gen made sense at the time and was fully justified, but I wouldn't go as far as saying they NEEDED one. Because it's real fucking obvious with or without hindsight that the outcomes were less than useful to just about anything, including but not limited to dooming Tempus 2 to failure.

>>49895019
>it is better to have Cover be the top for both female and male than giving Niji a win in the male vtubing department
retardchama, even yagoo in his interviews disagrees with you
>As I tribalist
Oh, I see, you're a subhuman too.

>>49895019
why don't you go watch your homos instead of being a faggot here?

>>49895020
her peak has yet to pass the trough of Mori's graph funny enough.

>>49894734
Homobegging faggot

>>49895055
It's harder to get people to use streamlabs since it's not integrated.

>>49895056
whats up fag

>>49895019
>tribal for homostars
holy shit, you are indeed a fucking homo, sir

>>49894731
And it is now meaningless thanks for getting proof for me

>>49895012
>http://poal.me/fqwrvp
Are you gonna do this everyday until the green one wins?

>>49895055
It was 70/30 before. Donations aren't really big on Twitch from what I have seen, most people do gifted subs instead.

what's with all the shitflinging?

>>49895019
wrong life faggot

>>49895206
EN hours = troon hour

Imagine the level of seethe if those two collab.
I hope Kson "talent freedom"'s Pippa and phase collapses.

>>49895206
kris the homo sexual is currently /here/ shitposting

>>49895206
We're moomin

>>49894731
Anon, the value is converted by Playboard into a single currency before returning in the API and, given that the value doesn't change across the time, they do it in the same day the stream happened.
That freezes the donation in the conversion rate of the day it happened in the currency of choice.
Unless you are claiming people for the most part are donating the same amount now but their other currencies are worth significantly less
>which is not the case for most of the currencies in your pic
the trend for the charts would as well not change.

These are not charts to determine the absolute value of donations, for that you have ... well, the absolute value of donations as you are showing.
They are merely to show the trends for the donations across the time, using the USD value of the donation in the day they were made (regardless of currency used).

>>49894895
>Ah, you're retarded, I see
No he is right. As a company you just see Luxiem being big, if they did not try to get something out of it, they should rethink their work ethics. Companies copy eachother all the time. Should cover do a little research in who is watching Luxiem? Of course, but not doing anything is simply stupid

>>49895250
I still got 2 hrs till I start moomin.

>>49895230
I wonder if VOMS was blocking her from mentioning Pippa? Cuz this all comes out of nowhere.

>>49895260
>As a company you just see Luxiem being big, if they did not try to get something out of it, they should rethink their work ethics
Nah, seeing the results, the board should fire whoever thought it was a good idea to debut Tempiss while not debuting EN3 after it AND on top of that debuting Tempoop.

>>49895019
Cover will never be at the top with male vtubers, and pushing more of them over more girls for any branch won't make it more likely for them to get their own Vox or Kuzuha. The closest thing they can get is clown but who knows for how long he can maintain his sc income when he keeps losing viewership with the rest of his failed branch.

>>49895198
It's very easy to drop a gifted sub because of the Amazong Prime free sub. That probably racks up to a pretty good amount considering all the Prime subscribers that also use twitch.

Number prediction?

>>49895340
3 graduations

You're dunking on that guy but I agree, starsEN was something that, as a company, made sense to at least try. The problem is that not only it went badly, but EN management tried to make them a success by forcing them into the girl's fanbase with the whole holopro bullshit, and that caused a bad reaction that could have been avoided if they simply let them grow on their own. Then they finished the job of making them hated by releasing tempus2 and not EN3. A masterwork on how NOT to manage things, they should study this and teach it to their new managers so they hopefully don't fuck things up as hard as their predecessors.

>>49895254
Youtube converts it to the streamers currency anyway and pays out in 30 day intervals so the actual money they get isn't going to be that different.

>So many retards barking just because someone suggested Cover should be top in male vtubing as well
You faggots need to close your eyes while looking at the mirror, you will see a male and spit on it

>>49895340
2.5k. Maybe 3.5k max. Its a watchalong

>>49895340
5k max

>>49895321
but they did? they fire omegay and now Mr Jap trying his best to salvage HololiveEN, although it's kinda fucking late with a lot of them already burned out of streaming

>>49895340
sisters don't watch bae's channel

>>49895340
Fucking -1 from me, I'm not touching anything with the stars involved (but I'm not gonna schizo over Bae involving herself with them, since that was a given since day 1).

>>49895382
>Male vtubers bad
>Female vtubers outside hololive bad
>Female vtubers inside hololive mostly good

>>49895340
I was gonna say yesterday that she was talking to bettel about the barbie watch along and was going to have vesper there as a chaperone, but I thought the idea was too stupid of a shitpost and no one would believe it.

>>49895340
3k, maybe 2

>>49895309
I doubt that gayru is even aware of pc.

>>49895321
Of course. You see it all the time if a company fails to copy their "successful"(Luxiem was successful for a short time) they'll fire everybody who touched that stuff.

>>49895183
Im gonna do this everyday until the yellow one wins

>>49895206
a retard thinks company X can just take business rival's long established market share when it contradicts with X's core business

sirs, this is number threads
please parlay about numbers

>>49895365
>but EN management tried to make them a success by forcing them into the girl's
never happen

>>49894849
>>49894734
This is the dumbest cope ever. You are releasing a male group when
>your other male group is a disgrace
>the branch you are releasing them into it's in a critical state
>models are fugly
>completely misread both your target audience AND the girls audience
>your new audience is a toxic, fleeting and unreliable mess
>openly antagonize your existing audience while ignoring the girls
>the homos are neither shameless pandering whores nor brotubers
>DOUBLE DOWN by releasing even more of them when it didn't work
You don't need to have a foot into every single available market, that's the whole reason they left China. You don't have to be an analyst to realize this goes against every self preserving instinct and the fuckers doubled down on it.

** 365 DAYS SUM OF SUPERCHAT DONATIONS **

MYTH
>>49892890 :: Ame
>>49893245 :: Ina
>>49893533 :: Gura
>>49890549 :: Mori
>>49893788 :: Kiara

COUNCIL & IRyS
>>49894694 :: Fauna
>>49891023 :: Kronii
>>49891421 :: Bae
>>49891825 :: Mumei
>>49892192 :: IRyS

Pic related has all side by side

>>49894551
HoloJP and HoloEN are in complete opposites end of this spectrum. Yes, it would be good if it doesn't take 2 years for a new JP gen, but with 35 members they are in a comfortable position and aren't in desperate need of new blood, unlike EN who only has 10, debuted 11 total members during the same timespan JP debuted 28 and now even the current talents are complaining about the lack of new members. ID also should've been quicker to expand but with all of the branch being on the same timezone they don't have the same problems that plagued HoloEN since it's inception, so they end up having a bigger wiggle room in regards to how fast new gens should debut.

>>49895488
I just really hope Omega got fired and not relocated to another department.

>>49895487
kys omega, stop crying about being fired and find a new job already

>>49895495
Fauna has the best looking graph

Why does that anon supposedly defending StarsEN talks about himself in the third parson as if it was many people doing so?
>inb4 he tries the "more than one people can be talking about it"
he's blatantly samefagging

>>49895461
>Hololive took the female vtuber market from Niji
stfu and never appear in this thread again, coward

>>49895483
Amazing numbers, perhaps it will lead to some riveting discussion.

>>49895533
>EN who only has 10,
bro, they just had 8 new member

>>49895458
Too based. I kneel

>>49895566
>barely 4K

>>49895483
holocure anniversary in 1 month 3 days

>49895570
You don't deserve a (You).

>>49895488
you can dream as much as you want but cover is not dissolving Holostars

Huh, I noticed that the number of points you collect in Valkyrie Connect collab is now 80 per talent instead of 65 talent as it was in days 1-3. I guess the devs were scared that the 100k goal wasn't going to be met so they upped the amount of points players could get.

>>49895566
> sub 5k in an empty timeslot
Amazing. Debuffson is on par with Bae and Mori. A bit more and she could end up Kiara tier. Good going moron

>>49895488
Anon here wants to explain to us why cover released Tempus. Nobody needed Tempus but cover because of Luxiem. Nobody here is doubting cover was wrong. You should fucking read posts before you write.

>>49894849
They didn't need to tap into the male market. They needed to stick to what they've been doing all this time before this retarded homopush.

>>49895566
Reminder that Ame has 1.6 million more subscribers than Bettel.

>>49895564
> took the female vtuber market from Niji
Cover never took Niji's twitch whores market share.

>>49895570
So how much does JP have?

>>49895557
Well lets check

What is the general opinion on the decision to make Stars EN?

http://poal.me/w12mmw
http://poal.me/w12mmw
http://poal.me/w12mmw
http://poal.me/w12mmw

>>49895726
35

>>49895686
> They needed to stick to what they've been doing all this time
which was Hololive AND Holostars, dumbfag
their mistake was trying to blend them together and have one affect the other

>>49895769
I blame Fubuki, Matsuri, and Akirose for that

>>49895488
If you are a growing business like Cover having a ENstars made sense. But releasing more then just the first 4 was a big mistake let alone in less then a year. WHILE EN girls were in a major drought no less.

>>49895768
So EN has 10. Good, thanks for getting it straight from you

I seriously hope some of you are still in school and yet to get Business 101 training....

>>49895768
wrong, they have 48

>>49895756
With how much Nijisanji English has crashed down since the introduction of Holostars EN, I can only view it as an overall good decision even if I don't give a fuck about their streams. They handicapped Cover's biggest competitor.

>>49895769
If that's the case they actually did what they were "doing all this time"
>created a branch of absolute underperformers, outranking nobody in the whole industry except maybe (BIG MAYBE) midgets like MAHA5, Neo Porte third gen and SonyTubers

If that was the idea, congratulations

>>49895629
Doesn't matter, the damage has already been done and Tempus barely competes with LuxNox. They got a few whales with clown and some decent-ish memgift rate, but none of that matters when a new Hololive gen for any branch would be much more profitable in the long run. If Cover is truly smart they should just gather their small victories with Tempus, move their focus back to Hololive and not debut a single new male talent until at least all of the Hololive branches had a new gen, preferably 2 in the case of EN.

>>49895769
>before this retarded homopush
Why did you cut out the most important part, you retarded neanderthal? That's literally what I said. Kill yourself.

>>49895677
>why cover released Tempus
No, he's trying to explain why it was needed in the first place, which is bullshit. If a vtuber group blows up in China and they smash every record, does that mean Cover should go back? Of course not.
Just as the whole HoloCN debacle is a lesson to not get involved with chinks, StarsJP failure should have been a lesson to not debut more males. All my other points are just to drive the point how there wasn't even a single redeeming point and how stupid is that they pushed with it anyways

>>49895365
>dunking on that guy
His idea is insanely retarded and makes no business sense, if he's serious

>>49895834
HololiveJP(35)
HololiveProEN(19)
reminder that HololiveEN management that started the pro bullshit, you EN has to use the term pro for their branch

>>49895919
Worng.
HololiveProJP (48)
HololiveProEN (18)

>>49895919

>>49895837
Do you want to explain your point on this topic or do you prefer to stay quiet?

>>49895874
Many of Tempus are outranking half of NijiEN, so I would say mission accomplished. Unless you are a nijifag, in that case seethe

>>49895919
13 Holostars if you're going to lump them together making JP have 48 people.

So i see that that thread is once again going with bat shit retarded narrative that Omega and EN management where some kind rogue agents acting without any oversight and authorization from Yagoo and Cover upper management with their harcore Tempus push

>>49895639
holofame is reclining...

>>49895837
>>49895756

>>49895919
Next time you'll try to make people refer to HoloEN as "LiveEN".

>>49895677
>Nobody needed Tempus but cover because of Luxiem.
Well that's the point, as a business that wants to expand and get a new fanbase, you release startsEN to try and get the fujos. That fact that it was a disaster and they did it in an extremely retarded way is another matter.

>>49892525
>20,023: Met (VSPO)
Ah yes, of course.

>>49895948
This is correct. The Hololive Production umbrella is not only a thing in English. It's the same in Japan. So if you're going to use HoloProEN it only makes sense to pair it with HoloProJP as well.

>>49896008
End your pathetic exisence.

>>49895913
By his logic, Cover should also go take over some 3D tech company's market share. Cant let them monopolize the market lol

>>49895948
based

>>49896035
Met's Z mogged Ina's and takokeks havent been the same since

>>49895900
now you are just a retard who thinks everything in a hindsight

https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1660421462136864768
My wife

>>49895769
why are you trying to argue with what that anon said when that's basically what he said? learn how to read before calling someone else a dumbfag you esl

>>49896035
>>49896062
Z QUEEN
> Z QUEEN
Z QUEEN
> ZQUEEN
Z QUEEN
> Z QUEEN

>>49896062
Ina's peak is higher

>>49895981
And a new girl gen would be outranking all of NijiEN. Also Tempus isn't ouranking their true targets so being happy that they're above the runts that are half of their roster makes no sense, especially when fucking Kyo has been recently getting better viewership than most of Tempus.

>>49896093
I wonder what AZKi would ask for the 1M reward.

>>49896113
It's the overall length and girth of a Z that matters

>>49896062
>>49896035
Now that's a proper Z.

>49896045
You're on the wrong thread, /mans/ister.

>>49895900
It is pretty simple. Cover has Hololive and Holostars brands. Cover pushed in the EN market and was successful. Nijisanji pulled after but was not successful. Nijisanji tries males and is successful. Cover notices it and uses the stars brand. It is about trying new markets and getting more customers. China is not a new market.

Mommy mio needs help going back to sleep

>>49895365
>The problem is that not only it went badly
If that is your standard for Holostars doing badly no wonder you think it was worth doing. But in the real world it went as well as they could have hoped.

>>49896204
Luxiem's successful market was....China.

>>49896140
divorce

>>49895756

>>49895564
If you think Holo is anything like Niji, show me one holo that acts like Chihiro who mocked Rushia's termination in a public stream while other Nijis laughed along with Chii.

Fucking retard.

>>49896218
Say no more. I'm on it.

>>49896248
Rushia deserves to be mocked.

>>49895919
But anon, you are not in the position to name them like you dream about it. It is cover and they made the decision 18/48 or 10/35. Get a Job in Cover corp. and maybe someday you have the right to rename it. Good luck

>>49896219
Sure, it was better than they could've expected, but doing it in the place of an EN3 was not worth it at all and now they're most likely scrambling to get a 5 girl team ready when a bunch of the people who sent their applications either gave or just debuted under the dozes of different agencies that gave a fuck about them.

>>49896218
A bit of exercise should do the trick...let me help....

>>49896140
A sololive I guess

>>49896033
exact

>>49896319
sorry dyslexia, i mean fucked, by me

>>49896248
Rushia is a meme in the vtuber community

We could have ringo and meat instead homo and niji, what happen /vt/?

>>49896457
why not remove all of them? easy

>>49896234
Yeah, nobody is doubting Cover should do more research in that Fanbase. But for me it is not unreasonable to think as an uninformed outsider those are english viewer in NijiEN. They made their first mistake there but market expansion is important even if we do not like it

>>49896500
Cover is a big company, how come they were less informed than a bunch of retards shitposting on the internet?

>>49896500
cover should stop killing nijien

>>49895756
Seems like they've at least kneecapped NijiEN. If they wanted to do it seriously it should have been done two years prior, but even then it would have made more sense to just do more girls. This is especially the case when Cover, and even Anycolor, have no idea how to make males popular. Anycolor's success with them has been pure chance and numbers.

>>49896500
>Cover should do more research
>research
Cover: is that even a real word?

>>49896500
I assume Cover was probably pushed by their seed investors who saw Luxiem's success and wanted them to push males out to raise valuation before their exit.

>>49896219
>caused the mother of all reclines for the girls
>all the management resources dedicated to starsEN could have gone to EN3
Yes, things went incredibly bad.

>>49896500
anon, no point in arguing with these unicorns.... they see MALES, their brain freezes up and down syndrome kicks in

So why are people concern about the concert being in LA when anime expo is held in LA every year. I already brought tickets for my girlfriend and I but people are making this place sound crazy.

>>49896695
go back tranny

>>49896588
>Cover is a big company, how come they were less informed than a bunch of retards shitposting on the internet?
Disney is a big company, how come they-
Nokia is a big company, how come they-

When the higher-up is not smart, no amount of money can save them. NTA

>>49896500
>market expansion is important even if we do not like it
They could have expanded the female branch.
The constant dead hours caused by lack of personnel have caused their existing base to shink, while at the same time the drama caused by their male expansion drove people out.

>>49896747
There's a lot of bad places in LA, I guess people are concerned tourists and foreigners might not have the sense to be able to know where not to go.

>>49896752
Can you open your legs just a little please, Flare?

>>49896808
>hindsight

>>49895260
No you’re a retard let me give you an analogy. Hololive is a milkshake bar and Nijisanji is a burger joint. Nijisanji has great burgers and their milkshakes aren’t bad either while Hololive has world renowned milkshakes and piss poor burgers most people don’t even know they offer them. Nijisanji sees people like burgers and milkshakes so they keep em coming sometimes mixing and matching with a meal. Hololive decided no more milkshakes you have to try are new burgers. The last 3 debuts of Hololive have all been male and their are more on the way. Nijisanji is doing whatever. If their product was different or if the girls decided to put out less and less effort Yagoo would’ve crippled his company. No sane person says this was a good idea.

>>49895019
No you’re a faggot.

80% of holoen dropping below 7k average is gods work

>>49896839
Oh fuck off, everyone knew males would create drama and EN was already growing slower than JP grew.

If Cover thought that StarsEN would capitalize on a lucrative new market that weren't already watching holoEN why did they have to use the girls to prop them up during those early months?

>>49896588
I do not know, but they thought we do not need EN3, they thought Tempus2 is needed short after Tempus, the discord leak now showed the girls want EN3 too, and let us not start with the JP side. Cover is not that smart in business things but they have an insane roaster of talents, so it works

>>49895118
It hasn’t passed any of myth. Hasn’t passed kronii either

>there are retards in this thread believing StarsEN was not a good idea, when a company with an established male vtuber branch watched its competitor getting subs and money and wanted to expand with their own version of male vtubers
naive idiots
PS: when and how they should have release them is an entire matter

>>49896839
Every anon here could have told you how things would have turned out. Might have even been worse than most expected.

>>49895639
80 was what you could get during the first collab as well, don't know why they lowered it. They were still gonna reach the end goal pretty comfortably looking at the trajectory of the first 3 days though.

>>49896500
Market expansion should never come at the expense of your biggest product. If they debuted an EN3 and StarsEN last year then it would make sense that they wanted to expanded their western reach, but pushing 8 homos in place of any new girl for a branch that's almost 3 years old was a completely stupid decision.

>>49896140
Live sex celebration.

>>49896852
>Nijisanji has great burgers and their milkshakes aren’t bad
thats how you expose yourself as a Nijifag, now go back to your thread sis

>>49896828

>>49896695
I am sorry when I built the impression I wasn't a unicorn. I do watch girls like Bae and Matsuri but I have borders, Pomu Kronii Mori Ame.

>>49896219
No in the real world with a smarter ceo they would have cut their losses. Their debut will forever be second stupidest thing cover has ever done

>>49897058
If the opportunity cost of releasing a homo gen is a holo gen, then it's hard to believe there could ever be a good time or method.

>>49897091
anon, please read the thread.. noone is arguing that timing of Tempus1 and debut of Tempus 2 over EN3 was correct....

>>49897058
Homobeggars and ignoring context as usual. The only success NijiEN has ever seen was off the back of the mainland Chinese audience. The country that Hololive pulled the plug on intentionally and has never pandered to since. The homos are a regression not an expansion of audience

>>49896747
Anime cons happen all over the country, so if you aren't comfortable or don't want to go you can just go to one of your local ones. There's probably a lot of people that don't want to go to LA that are gonna go just for this concert me included

>>49897058
Mate you're a retard if you think its a good idea, it's the simplest way to put it

>>49897060
NTA hindsight is bad but the discussion doesn't need to include hindsight. Pretty simple actually.
Holos always mention family friends never bf spouse. Adding male talent to flirt with them is a self-contradicting business concept.
Only outsiders or some really new Tempus fans couldn't understand this simple logic.

>>49895825
Man all these non business owners explaining how to grow a business. You don’t switch gears unless you have a market. They didn’t have a market so it was retarded

>>49897058
StarsEn 1 was a good idea
StarsEn 2 is a good idea seeing the relative success of stars 1
But Goddamn releasing stars 2 that fucking early and with no EN3 on sight was one of the worst decision they could have ever made

>>49897058
Niji always had more successful males than hololive. Cover thinking it'd be different this time just because it was overseas is what is actually naive.
It's also clear to anyone with a brain that riding the coattails of your rival's success wouldn't work nearly as well as being the first to market, the nijien girls vs holoen being a prime example of anycolor doing the same.

There's a thread up on the reddit asking if LA is safe for them or the girls and it's filled to the fucking BRIM with seething Californians if anybody's bored and wants a good laugh.

>>49897058
>PS: when and how they should have release them is an entire matter
That's the entire discussion, you retard. If Cover didn't fuck over HoloEN for the sake of 8 faggots then Tempus would end up being a footnote and only the schizos would waste their time talking about them.

>>49897218
The entire market expansion cope will never make sense with how Cover dealt with this. No matter how much they needed a StarsEN they committed their biggest mistake by laser focusing on them just to have a competitor to LuxNox while fucking over HoloEN, and no matter how much investors wanted Cover to try their hand on a western male branch or how much Cover had Vox's superchats living rent free inside their heads nothing will justify this decision.

>>49896808
Anon, you have to differentiate. StarsEN was the right decision for cover to expand (If Nijisanji had an succesful Id men group instead of Luxiem we would have got a StarsID) . The drama they made because they set them up with the Girls(Ame and Kronii especially) is their fault and did massive damage.

>>49897134
holy sex

>>49897251
you write like a sister my guy... try not to get offended next time

>>49897426
yes
>>49897458
ogey

>>49893248
If you follow that channel, it's because he cut out songs that are >1 years old, many of which are perennial hits that would otherwise consistently top the list. That's why you don't see stuff like Aqua-Iro or Phony or God-ish on there anymore.

>>49897410
Even Mumei said she doesn't like LA so it's not just some polcel shit. These guys are coping

Uki racist moments compilation

https://files.catbox.moe/lh4q3g.mp4

>>49897391
It was different though since they have Vesper and Bettel, the absolute floor is Flayon playing shitty RPG maker games and that's like the average JP member's numbers
No idea how long it'll last though since Luxiem burned out in six months

>>49897513
Mumei probably doesn't like all the fake/superficial girls there.

>>49897518
>all that shit they suspended Zaion for yet they let actual racism slide

>>49897016
>the discord leak now showed the girls want EN3 too
Did it? I missed it so this could be just some shit you pulled out of your ass.

>>49897058
A lot of people here are being disingenuous. I remember before their debut and during first month of their debut majority of # dwellers are very supportive and praising Cover for making the right decision.
>imagine comparing to stars
>they have antis, they've made it
were some of the favourite quotes by hypocrites that are bashing the ENstars right now. A "genius move" became "streategic blunder" just because you moved from loving them to hating them is pretty hilarious.

>>49896852
It is literally >>49896764 We had Coke2, we had Mcdonalds premium. Something like this always happened and will happen in the future. Cover is big but Coke and Mcdonalds are bigger and they did mistakes too because they thought a competitor is succesful in a market they do not have. And anon I give you a hint, both Coke and Mcdonalds lost massive in their dominant markets because of that.

>>49895677
>>49896033
>>49896387
No you’re retarded. Need means this was necessary for their next stage of growth. There is no market for this in regards to Hololive. People don’t come to hololive for males and no debut will change that.

Western homobeggers are truly insufferable because they insist not just on badgering people for collabs, but inserting these fags everywhere. Like holy shit, this is what breeds resentment, I don't WANT to see homos in every discussion.

>>49897420
>The drama they made because they set them up with the Girls(Ame and Kronii especially) is their fault and did massive damage.
Girls did that by choice.

Is Fauna stealth suspended?

>>49897605
>>49897518
It's simple. Either you're member of one of the cliques, or you aren't.

>>49897491
Anon you're only filling me with sadness that Flare avoids anything remotely close to being sexy.

>>49897723
Her stealth suspension almost ended. Hope she plays plate up to celebrate it later.

>>49897723
Imagine if she WAS, and it's because she refused to homocollab.

>>49897605
well as they say in the niji thread: >>49896983
just in case you were doubting nijifags were pieces of shit

>>49896155
reminder that we tallied this at 160k still

>>49897518
Twitter just doesn't know.

>>49897723
She announced her vacation like 3 weeks before she took it.

>>49897410
Lol. LA is genuinely dangerous if you're comparing it to places like Japan or Taiwan or non-western Europe.

>>49897649
Okay, do you watch some EN, in my case I know Fauna and Kiara did talk about the demand of EN3. I know some more did too and yes I did not read the Screenshots and just believed some anons itt because I know they want them.

https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1660421462136864768
Exciting!

>>49897653
Nobody ever called the stars a genius move, what the fuck are you on about?

>>49893904
Gamma. Before the apex/rust saga, he inclined before the rest of his peers because he put out regular shorts. And he was actually the runt of Uproar at its very beginning - now Uyu is the absolute shitter of all holopro, what does he put out? Shit all

So yeah, regular content and shorts can lead to growth, who woulda thunk

>>49897518
Just make a youtube vid. Call it " Uki being based" or something and share it. Youre just preaching to the choir here. We already hate the fag

>fucked up
>apology ASMR
>fuck off to cool things down
Yeah EN girls really learn how to put their viewers on a leash.

>>49897723
Yes. She talked to Mumei's manager behind her back.

>>49897653
they are not going to acknowledge it because they blame no EN3 to Tempus

>>49897911
Oh, Faunaschizo, you're back. Hooray!

tempus was made because of luxiem, cover extremely scared back then when luxiem mogged holojp so hard in term of sc. and we all know sc is more relevant metric than ccv

>>49897605
https://youtu.be/o-0llSDyc1g
At least Nux is willing to speak out for Zaion, when no one else would.

>>49896695
And males get your rocks off doesn’t it faggot. Nobody goes into something blind they even admitted they didn’t know what they were doing. This had no plan, no reasoning, and they weren’t sure it would even work. This wasn’t a calculated risk or a market being studied it was Yagoo being a faggot hoping it could help the other dead weights

>>49897941
EN3 doesn;t exists because of Tempus, yes. That's a fact.

>>49897659
>>49897654(me)
Cover made a mistake but releasing a product to reach a new market is normal. So StarsEN debut is not wrong from a business standpoint. Letting your existing market rot is

>>49897911

>>49897978
EN3 doesn't exist because of council. none of them has reached 1M yet.

>>49897883
>>28217495

>>49897762
so shes an innocent little girl

>>49894734
>but they needed a StarsEN gen
??
Why?

>>49897702
That is a different discussion. It is not helpful

>>49897978
because of ..... Cover

>>49897941
Is there really any doubt left that Tempus was released at the cost of EN3? It seems obvious at this point.

>>49897883
You were obviously never here for the first 3 months following tempiss debut. Just take a gander through the original /mans/ threads

>>49897942
>>49898032
>saplings immediately latched on the post
I didn't even mention who, but you are the ones believe that your whores did it.

>>49898043
It is because of Council, but it's not because they haven't reached 1M. it's because it's literally a gen of 5 lazy whores and Cover is scared of ending up with another gen of 5 lazy whores.

>>49898115
Your posting style is basically neon lighting announcing who you are at this point anon.

>>49897412
I think people are missing an important point. Their was no reason they couldn't do both, But because the decided that both branch should have the same resource, it was one or the other. Why are the stars using the girls resource when their not even in the same group? Them not going in reverse after all this time and giving them separate accounts is just annoying the fans who are there just for the girls.

>>49896140
Solo live almost without a doubt, probably seeing if she can get KAF to come as a guest as well.

>>49898051
Quoting yourself doesn't mean anything anon, only a retard like you would call Tempus a genius move, anyone sane wouldn't go that far.
>What if the 4 dudes in Tempus are like...really fucking funny/entertaining?
Well that really didn't work out did it.

>>49897842
>Lol. LA is genuinely dangerous if you're comparing it to places like Japan or Taiwan or non-western Europe.
Even japan has it dangerous places for foreigners like kamurocho. People are acting like the concert is being held in a back ally in Detroit. When LA is actually pretty nice is you avoid the scams.

>>49898115
>Wow, countries that had their world trade center bombed on September 9, 2011 sure do suck.
>America's not that bad.
>I didn't even mention America kek

Melon>irys

>>49898217

>>49898090
your efforts would have been much more fruitful if you have directed your anger towards Cover and EN management
You retards attacked Tempus because of no EN3, the management instead of taking it as hint interpreted as - you hate males and its all about males, so they doubled down and forced them onto your throat

>>49898114
>/mans/ threads
What's the point. Did the majority of /#/ call Tempus a genius move? No it fucking did not.

>>49898114
Which thread did you think you opened? This isn’t global or the catalog where the boys were heralded as meme lords

>>49898244
>>49898250
/#/ was infested with homofags who couldn't and wouldn't shut up about how great Tempiss were doing. I think you fags are in the wrong timeline

>>49897806
how would they react? This should legitimately be enough to cause a scandal

>>49896747
At it’s best LA is a tourists wet dream if you have obscene amounts of disposable income. Average tourist will probably not rent a car so you’ll have to pass by alleys, walk past homeless encampments, or walk into shit depending on where you are. A millionaire was stabbed and died while taking a walk. Connor from TT ended up in a near similar situation helping a woman.

What I’m trying to say is keep your head on a swivel and don’t look anybody in the eyes. I’m kind of getting nostalgic

>>49897762
>Anon you're only filling me with sadness that Flare avoids anything remotely close to being sexy.
*Throw a right straight to anon's face*
https://youtu.be/1neJJFJr1s0?t=96
When a woman says not to lewd her
SHE MEANS OKAY

Isn't it MORE exciting to lewd Flare when she says no?

>>49897410
So people who actually live there are unreliable but people living in Arkansas who have never been there should be treated as gospel?

>>49898306
the demographics of LA are so horrendously bad, if you've ever looked them up. There are a few small cores which are nice but outside those areas its....you know

>>49898055
ahhh I see!
As I suspected you changed the color of the pic
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/108130023

>>49898306
just pay for an uber then retard

>>49897842
Are you implying that Eastern Europe is somehow more safe than Western Europe?

>>49898236
yeah anon Cover made terrible business decisions because of /#/ but if only the seethe was directed at Omega we could have saved hololive

>Doing thread reps
>Baelz really is doing a homo barbie watchalong

>>49898055
Did you change the color yourself? Do you have the settings for it? Like brightness, contrast, curve value etc

>>49898236
I can shit on EN management and Tempus at the same time anon. I do that almost daily in fact.

How is Subaru so popular? Her niche is JRPGs which is probably the most debuff genre imaginable yet pulls insane numbers

>>49898460
Honestly don't really understand why but whatever.

>>49898460
didnt that already happen? or was that a different homo?

>>49898460
nothing wrong with having a date with your two close male friends while the viewer get's 4th wheeled

Moom soon

>>49898447
Yeah, actually.

>>49898175
Japan dangerous is baby tier compared to LA. People are worried about being mugged or shit, they're worried about being stabbed by a junkie in Inglewood

EN hours
https://poal.me/r3i3uj
https://poal.me/r3i3uj
https://poal.me/r3i3uj

>>49898460
yeah, me. I talked to her on the Discord

>>49898381
People who've visited both are best, neither of what you've named are fully trustworthy. Retarded Californians are especially untrustworthy though. I've met rural people who've visited LA but not any Californians who've really tried living anywhere but a city, the dipshits just call everything that's not a hellscape "flyover country". Just listen to what they say though
>LA is great if you avoid the bad parts of town!
>Like that place, don't go there you'll get mugged!
>Oh and that place has a load of crackheads, avoid there!
>Those are the homeless encampments, they shit on the road but it's not too bad if you ignore the smell!
>No no no, that's the cartels territory, don't go there!
>Oh that? Yeah if you go there you'll get murdered, mugged AND raped! I just love the hustle and bustle of the big city!
Meanwhile where I live there IS no "bad part of town" these kinds of people insist are part of life "everywhere".
lmao

Honestly, StarsEN make perfect sense if you assume that T "Discord server has no impact on my actions" chan is their only community liaison in the west

>>49897654
Wrong this isn’t the same. Mcdonalds premium would be the equivalent of cover releasing ready made idols that you can only see when they perform or if they turned holoearth into the only way to watch concerts. That’s a bad business move but it tries to hit a different crowd or consolidate the audience. What cover did was remove the big mac or original coke and only give you new releases that aren’t a chicken sandwich or coke. Male vtubers and Female vtubers aren’t the same just like a basketball and a volleyball aren’t. Yes I know the other girls are still there but what if in this time more than sana and rushia were gone.

>>49896764
There’s a difference the core didn’t change they still released animated series for kids or nostalgia bait for adults. What changed was the message which would be the equivalent of new girls debuting but they only talked about one sided politics. Core was the same but the execution changed.

>>49898684
So saplings phoneposting many times to make Fauna as dominant as possible?

>>49898473
I don't have the settings, it's different for each one. Mess with colour, bloom and noise

Pathetic Ame can't even scratch 5k on a weekend uncontested.

>>49896668
They thought Luxiem would at least get subs since Gaijin give those out pretty easily. And then they could use said subs in the IPO since its their nr 1 metric

>>49898844
>I don't have the settings
I see. Life is short. Don't concern yourself with things that's aren't really important.
Just Fap doryaaaaaaaaaaa more flare pleaseee
ALL YOUR color enhanced flare please

>>49898445
You still have to wait 4-7 minutes standing still on the sidewalk it’s always good to be alert. Stop being a faggot

>>49898831
Fauna gets the most votes regardless of timezone, hours or who's streaming. So either saplings are here 24/7 or Fauna, and Gura, IRyS and Moom are just popular enough to get the votes consistently for 4 months

>>49898996

How can we save them? Most of NijiEN is either sub 2k or 3views nowadays on solo streams, even Vox is falling into sub 3k. Only Ike and Mysta remain somewhat over 3-4k.
>Get big names to join and attract their fanbases
>Graduate some low performing members so the fanbases look for another NijiEN member to follow the most
>Make EN join under the main branch and use the resources for ads
Any other idea?

Are you guys being railed by gpt again?
I thought it went behind a pay wall for now...

>>49892890
>>49895495
Holy shit nice graphics

>>49899033
>>49898844
>>49898055
>>49897491
>>49897134
>>49896752
Thank you for blessing this thread

>Haachama to Vshojo
>Senzawa to Mythic

>>49898754
I got a friend that swears by Chicago being the greatest place to live and one of his classmates was shot. Some people are just weird