/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'm laughing at vshojo right now.

Oh no no no sistas what did she mean with this?

OP is a faggot who needs to actually explain where the fuck this was posted, so I can bully him for being a twitter tourist.

>>49612261
This is from her private discord. She left VShojo and joined Mythic and now she's saying Mythic won't suspend her over a video game. Read between the lines.

>>49612261
Pricey patreon discord channel

>suspend
WHAT?

>>49612427
FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM

Apparently it's not confirmed if this is just an edit or if she really posted it but I guess dramasisters love it regardless.

>>49612177
Oh no...

VShojobros...

Don't worry! Everyone makes mistakes.

>>49612177
vshojobros...I don't feel so good

>>49612177
KSONBROS???????????????????????????????

>>49612177
>she was actually suspended
holy shit

>>49612177
vshojo suspends people?

>>49612535
same anon put a video file of a other comment
https://files.catbox.moe/5dstjs.mp4
ISRAEL

>>49612177
I didn't think VShojo had the power to suspend her. It's not like a Japanese corpo where they own your accounts

>>49612817
b-b-b-b-b--b-b-b-b-b--b-b-b-b--b-b-b-b-b-ut kson said vshojo wasn't an agency?????????

>>49612817
>the same anon
Ok? It'll only prove something if somebody else confirms it.

>>49612817
This should probably have been the post for this thread instead, because this looks like it might be real

>>49612817
Doesn't show the important message

>>49612887
Friendly reminder she said this in a private discord for paypigs that can only be accessed through a costly patreon tier

>>49612887
>never benefits the streamer
I don't watch Silvervale, are all her takes this retarded and unnuanced?

>>49612902
The irony of this texts is that they were supposedly posted on a Patreon channel which entry point is over $50
>>49612887

>>49612887
Ah she's just being a dumb bitch

>>49612887
>reacted to the message
retard you might have just outed yourself to any silverfags

>>49612887
>parasocial
>in her paypig discord

>>49612966
basically

>>49612177
vshojo bros? what happened?

>>49612887
She wouldn't be where she is now if it wasn't for Myth kickstarting the EN scene

>Want to play a video game
>Get death threats for it
>YOU are the one who gets suspended
What in the fuck

>>49612887
the idea behind vtuber agencies is parasocial now? This is a prime example of it being used as a negative buzzword what is she even trying to say?

>>49612887
>the comfy uwu BFE chuuba complaining about parasocial predatory behavior
L M A O
the irony

>>49613132
>suspension

>>49613132
everybody makes mistakes anon

>>49613187

>>49613132
untill she posts proof that she got suspended, she's making it up

>>49613187
>Five day gap between streams
suspension

>>49613251
>>49613243
delet this

>>49613187
>5 day gap right there
average suspension is a few days to a week, this is literally proving her point

>>49612177
>Suspend
Bery dangerasu indeed...

>be a no name nobody
>join vtuber agency
>instantly networked with bigger names, have sponsors, artist connections, management team and views because you are now part of a brand
>>>>>>>no benefits
Just because they take a percentage of income, you wouldn't even dream of having if not for the agency doesn't mean it's bad. Sure there are some big cons but holy fuck how can one be as retarded to say there are no benefits.

>>49613251
her schedule has been from thrusday to saturday (sometimes even sunday) for months now

>>49612947
HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA
this bitch needs lynched unironically

>>49612177
Based

>>49612887
>Joins a big corpo
>Now you're part of the 1% of streamers that can actually live of streaming
>You have to work = horrible

That's the logic, I see. Silver had the right timing, the right contacts and everything lined up to succeed. If she started as a vtuber right now, she would fail like most people or would pander to the "parasocial" people to pay her patreon

>>49613363
Silver was a literal nobody untill she started reaching off of Melody back in 2020, you know, the one who cooked up the Vshojo idea in the first place
she owns her entire success thanks to a corpo, even the latest drama boost is thank to her corpo not defending her

>>49612887
She's missing on this one. She's just as predatory and parasocial

>>49612177
So that was a fucking lie

Vshojo shills are obnoxious.

>>49613496
More like she was close buds with Veibae back in the days of explicit lewdtubing those two did in /aco/.

>>49613439
>or would pander to the "parasocial" people to pay her patreon
she's been doing that since she started, she had a Discord group called the Diamons or something which only the wealthiest paypigs could access so they could pretend Silver is their GF

I'm glad all 3 that left are universally shitting on Vshojo. Meanwhile Kson spews lies to everyone how its a "no con" organization ( its a company)

>>49613566
nah, that was late 2020
in early and mid 2020 Silver went up to a 4view from a mere 2 view after she started collabing with Melody a ton, same gouse for Ironmouse
the Vei stuff was a separate boost

>>49612177
>leave corpo
>immediately start talking shit and leaking
This bitch needs to smoke less crack.

>>49613566
Unrelated but I miss old Vei. Genuinely was one of the best vtubers in the entire industry. No magic like that will ever happen again.

>>49613656
LOL

I'm a vshojo stan, and here's my take on it: Silver should be pressed hard by us to clarify this.
Was she told, as in advised to not play it, stay low for a few days and she's calling that a "suspension", or was she threatened with professional consequences for playing it, that is, an actual suspension?
I'm absolutely not accepting her dropping this topic. She made an accusation, she better stick to it, or straighten it

>>49613631
>I'm glad all 3 that left are universally shitting on Vshojo
They aren't though? It's mainly Silvervale
Veibae only talked about how she disagreed with contract stuff.
Nyanners didn't really elaborate much at all on details on why she left. Can't really blame her though, she probably doesn't want to deal with whatever shitstorm Silver is brewing. Plus I feel like Nyanners actually probably did leave for just business reasons.

>>49613572
cmon anon "parasocial" for her is the equivalent of "objectifying" for fleshtubers, it's okay if she does it, but if someone else benefits from it? it's a problem and sexist and evil and fascist!

VShojo can suspend?

Also, what the fuck does Silver think parasocial means?

>>49613772
Vei also said she was still on good terms with VShojo, and Nyan yesterday was pushing VShojo hard while playing the SMITE collab and saying to watch the other girls who are part of it.

>>49613850
>VShojo can suspend?
no idea, either Silver or Vshojo management is lying
could they sue her for defamation or something if she's making it up?

>>49613307
Suspension after the 2nd playthrough? and she was allowed to keep playing? Yeah totally a "suspension"

>>49613656
true you just had to be there
old veibae was based unlike the garbage that is modern vei

>>49613907
It may have been a "we're taking you offline for your own safety" thing.

>>49613566
wait, they were on 4chan?

>>49613752
It's not even confirmed that it's real my dude.
I mean why would she diss parasocials in her exclusive patreon discord? It doesn't add up unless she's retarded.
Also she did stream it more than once so that would be strange.

>>49613905
would be funny if someone reported this to Vshojo, most companies have a NDA for this type of shit.

>>49613772
>Veibae only talked about how she disagreed with contract stuff.
she also said indies should hire a lawyer to review contracts on the way out which has some incredibly shady implications

>>49613891
aren't those the only two that explicitly said they left because they wanted more money (the Mythic poach)?

>>49612817
>vtuber agencies are predatory and parasocial
Says the whore who has a private discord for paypigs.
Humanity will be saved the day western whores leave vtubing.

>parasocial fucks

>>49613960
>unless she's retarded
it's silvervale. I would not be surprised if she literally had a 2 digit IQ

>>49613850
>VShojo can suspend?
FREEDOM

>>49613950
on /aco back in 2020 and early 2021, when a general on there called /pmg/ was still the main Vshojo general prior to /vsj+/ overtaking them
they were pretty much all /here/ chuuba for that general, especially Vei and Silver

>>49613552
Shut your hole tribe ape, Mythic will still run vtubing in the west even if they aren't a "vtuber corpo".

>right click
>inspect element

>>49613544

>>49613960
she prays of the same people who yell incel at everything but are virgins themselves, the
>I'm different than that
kind.

>>49614005
i have no issue with her getting bread, just don't criticize others for doing the same

>>49613972
true, but then you gotta remember how she shit-talked Cover back in 2021 based entirely off of shady leaks that were dispoven later

>>49614057
/vsj/ was on /trash/ in 2020
Nice try retard

>>49614010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HuwXt_24rs

>>49613772
It's kind of funny how pink cat somehow had the most graceful exit kek. How did silvervale manage to fuck up this bad?

>>49613960
she's a midwestern white woman, of course she's retarded

>>49614131
Shady leak? She straight up said she talked to a graduated member (Coco was still in Hololive).

>>49614099
hope this is fake. Sad to see if true

>>49614163
retard /pmg/ still even exists

>>49614131
I mean we can discredit everybody who speaks poorly of Vshojo until the cows come home but when multiple talents imply that something stinks maybe the shit isreal

>>49614191
which graduated member?

Where are the retarded shills that said Nazuna was allowed to play HL if she wanted?

>>49612887
I always knew there was something unsavory about her even just from watching a few minutes of stream. I feel justified now in never following or subbing.

>>49614267
She literally has a tweet saying management told her not to.

>>49614116
Having such thing that ultimately filter fans behind a paywall is the most predatory thing she can do. I bet it cost a lot more than the average holo membership too and surely she has a weird tier thing were super paypigs get to chat with her for a couple of minutes or something.
What she does is way more predatory and "parasocial" than what some "predatory and parasocial" agencies does.
She can do whatever she wants but she's worse than what she's criticizing.

>>49614192
>Sad to see if true
what did you expect, she's a western BFE streamer

>>49612177
Lmao I’m so happy this dumb fucking bitch left everything about her screams jealous insecure bitch who blames everyone else for her own shortcomings. She genuinely left out of pure jealousy due to pulling numbers lower than fucking froot and couldn’t deal with the fact nobody watches her because she’s a boring uninteresting cunt with professional victim mentality

>>49612887
>super parasocial
Oh so she's retarded got it
Because only corpo vtubers and no other kind of streamers are parasocial, fucking literal 10iq retard, holy shit

>>49614255
Let's be real, they all left because mythic gave them a better offer. That doesn't imply that Vshojo's contract was shady or terrible.

My sides hurt hahahaha

>>49614324
>She genuinely left out of pure jealousy due to pulling numbers lower than fucking froot and couldn’t deal with the fact nobody watches her
This isn't really true? Silver was like the 4th most popular VShojo
Froot is one of the least popular

>/vt/ falls for a bvtm raid
>again
https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1658930850837286915
Confirmed lowest iq board on 4chan

>>49614292
I know that's true. Shills on here were saying that it was misinterpreted and that she could play if she wanted, but that management said she might get hate for it.
Apparently the real hate would be her talent freedom company suspending her.

>>49614448
>bvtm raid
I'm a vsj+ regular you fucking moron

>>49614448
Doesn't refute the main point.

>>49614448
she's still a dumb whore lol

>>49614448
>op posted at XX:12
>bvtm tweeted at XX:21
Get your silvervale PR team ass out of here

>>49612887
Not a single western vtuber that isn't poisoned by this bullshit.

>>49614448
Nice cope faggot. Already proved to be real

>>49614448
I actually kind of hope it's fake now just because it would funny if bvtm got btfoed lol

>>49613496
>reaching
holy ESR

>>49614448
More like it's the other way around, if the screenshots are fake.

>>49614312
It was "deleted" when the original poster went to get proof about the OP image. Notice it has cut off emoji reactions too so it's easier to edit.

>>49612947
>private discord for paypigs that can only be accessed through a costly patreon tier
Fucking called it. I didn't even know for sure but given she's a western whore it was a given.

>>49614623
very convenient

>>49614584
He only proved the parasocial post was real. He did it twice for whatever reason even though everyone was asking for the suspension.

>>49613496
Yep, she leeched on Melody and Fefe super hard, then just ditched them when they were no longer useful.

>>49614605
i type too fast sometimes :(

>>49613950
Yeah, an /aco/ general. They actually bullied her so hard for doing karaoke she never did it again because they were mad it might mean she could stop doing coomer shit.

>>49614623
The original poster literally posted a video of another comment, which is getting even more shit, there's 0 reason to lie
you are coping unironically, be glad he got the screenshot before he deleted it or we'd only have his say-so

You fags falling for easy edits

>>49612177
>Suspended
That doesn't even make sense.

She played the same game on her return stream. If she was suspended for playing Hogwarts, then she wouldn't have returned playing Hogwarts.

>>49614863
Sorry anon. Rational posts aren't allowed.

>>49612887
literally what the fuck does parasocialism have to do with joining an agency.

>>49613960
Literal sub 80 IQ retard. There are gorillas smarter than she is.

>>49614577
Who's the fucking redditor who invented the word "parasocial"? I'm sick of it.

>>49614577
vtubing, like anime and anything japanese shouldn't ever leave japan. this is what happens when you mix incompatible cultures: you get an ugly mutt nobody asked for.

>>49614825
I don't give a shit about her being a hypocrite. Suspension was way more interesting and it's fake as shit. He won't even post the reactions to the deleted post.

>>49614726
There was also no negative reactions on second vid even though suspension and parasocial post were 3 minutes apart. You would think that such a statement would stir some people. Yet everyone was chill and positive

>>49614863
Common sense is forbiden on this board, go away

>>49614902
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wohl
1956

>>49614623
There's no proof it's the same anon. Cope.

>>49614895
It's not regarding to her but thinking that all of them were friends and talking to other vshojos. She knows the inside info on other corpos too, many streamers fucking hate each other but just pretend to be friends for the sake for the company.

It's all play pretend friendship bs to get simp money.

>>49612177
Cocobros... Ksonbros... our freedom...

>>49614863
She could have already decided to leave the company and were daring them to do something.

>>49614825
oh, so he got the video of the other comment first but couldn't find the suspension one? that's very convenient

>>49613950
>>49614057
>>49614774
I still remember when Silver and Vei would do roleplay shit, where Vei would dominate the more submissive Silver, all for the benefit of (you) using her for threesomes with other waifus.
https://files.catbox.moe/iwv5vf.png

>>49614448
>phase shills getting aggressive when called out
Remember. Anything phase related needs 3 weeks to get "fact checked" while they post "confirmed" shit instantly. Damage control harder you fucking cockroaches

>>49614863
And then didn't stream again for twice as much time after

>>49614919
It's in a channel where you have to pay $50 to join. Naturally it's full of yes-men

>>49614976
again, what the fuck does parasocialism have to do with that?

>>49614965
>He died of cancer
Good riddance.

>>49614974
Then someone else can prove it.

VERY REAL SCREENSHOT BTW

>>49615107
>>49614974

>>49615107
my sides

>>49614986
he was asked for a video as proof because they doubted both and kept going through loops to people to believe that he was in there and by the time he finished she had deleted it retard. It isn't a one off picture, if it was maybe your implication would have merit but not in this case

>>49615038
>Viewers or listeners come to consider media personalities as friends, despite having no or limited interactions with them.

That includes streamers being "family" or friends with other streamers.
It's a different thing we don't really have a term for.

Like "shipping" I guess but not romantic.

>>49612887
Oh im laughing at all the retards that got behind her and supported her here

I choose to believe it

>>49615160
So why did he stop scrolling before he got to the actual incriminating message?

>>49615107
the parasocial one is still very much real as he did post evidence of it
only the suspension one is murky

REMINDER:
https://files.catbox.moe/ufihtw.mp4
Not the first time she attacks hololive. She is worse than Veibae at this point.

>>49614623
That anon must be the most retarded proof finder. He was on the verge of greatness there. For now, other than the parasocial fucks proof, it's not even enough without the suspension proof.

>>49612177
What is the subtext supposed to be? I mean, she was never suspended by VShojo for any reason, and she played Wizard Game, so this isn't about that.

Honestly her comment is incoherent. Did you just make this up anon?

>>49614974
go ask him he's still in that thread

>>49615189
For example, The vshojo family kept getting fanart of all of them together playing games together even thou they didn't even speak to each other or collabed for MONTHS.

VShojo is just pathetic holy kek

>>49612345
cope. Your retarded whore got btfo, take the L.

>>49615253
>she was never suspended
looks like she was lmao

>>49615365
she's making shit up

>>49615325
YWNBAW

>>49615217
how can someone have such an annoying voice
she sounds like the chick in this video trying to be lewd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCrnRLV5slc

>>49612177
>They didn't ignore her
>SUSPENDED

>>49615023
That's why I would imagine people would be sad or angry. It is their oshi? I don't believe they would say "whatever makes you happy" to her being suspended. Could be wrong though, who knows what people like that think

>>49615407
or maybe Vshojo doesn't have as much FREEEDOM as advertised

>>49612177
This is fake
>>49612887
This one is real

>>49615466
It was 3 months ago at this point.

>>49613907
unlike nyanners and veibae that talked about the new contract
Silver clearly left because they didn't support her when she came back from this little break she went full ballistic spawning the "twitter freak" catchphrase

The easiest rrat to make here is that they wanted to stop her to play hogwarts(we know nazuna was denied of even starting it) and that was Silver break point, so she went guns blazing on her return and quitted the moment the contract expired

>>49615517
They're both real.

Whoever leaked this is a colossal fucking idiot.
Either they like Silver enough to pay $150 to support her or they did it to find something like this to post here. Either way, they screwed her by leaking private discussion AND they posted it before she said anything else. Good luck getting anything out of her now when, not if, she finds out.

>>49615183
>deleted it
then at least show the comments after her post, surely someone would've talked about it.

>>49615728
Actually it's a smart ploy to leak her own opinions without suffering reprimand for it.

>>49615757
https://files.catbox.moe/f5g2lc.mp4

>>49615107
Very real by the way

>>49615728
who cares? what exactly are you expecting to get out of her, because I'm content to just call her a dumb bitch for free

>>49615850
Timestamps line up too. 12:49 for the reply, 12:48 for the message >>49612177

>>49615850
>original message deleted
>can't believe they did that
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT'S REAL
BASED ANON
PREACH THE TRUTH

>>49615892
KEK

>>49612966
To be fair that's Vshojo. Do you see it benefiting it's streamers?

>>49615217
Unrelated to topic:
I really dislike this gratuitous bouncy model rigging that vshojo and some other chuubas use
The way the pupils dilate and constrict for no reason is so unnerving
I cannot wait for this L2D rigging trend to die

>>49615892
that's edited for better format dude, you have the originals here

>>49615954
>Still can't believe
It's the first she ever mentioned this though
She might be talking about Zaion
Or the person replying thinks she's talking about Zaion

>>49615850
Oh shit, so it's real?

>>49612966
Many like shylily said they wouldn't join since there would be no benefit.

You can simply hire people to do what companies do but for cheaper. More efficient too since they are only focused on your stuff and not 12 people.

>>49616039
Vei doubled her viewers when she joined Vshojo
even Hime hets like 1-2k viewers on her rare stream due to the brand

>>49616088
>still can't believe
Why? Vshojo has lied about its claims more often than Silver and any other vtuber put together.
The odds are closer to that they DO do suspensions than not

>>49614976
That's not parasocialism, that's just any fucking job.

>>49616123
nobody cares what shylily has to say about anything

>>49616289
are we seriously forgetting Silver's dexerto interview where she talked shit out of her ass?
Vshojo ain't saints, but neither is Silver

>>49615892
retard

>>49616088
Why would she be talking about Zaion? And why would the person replying think she's talking about Zaion? That doesn't even make sense. Stop coping.

>>49616379
both have a shit reputation but if I had to pick one I'd side with the whore

>>49616308
Wrong. Niji and Holo can only exist as long as people believe all the streamers in there love each other, but there is so much hate and secret drama between them. It only leaks here and there but it's all tricking people into pretending they are super wholesomerino.

>>49616319
Considering she gets bigger numbers that many vshojos, you should.

How is she allowed to say anything about parasocial FUCKS when she puts out content like this...?

>>49616319
t. Veibae

>>49616449
they're all whores, anon

>>49616415
>Why would she be talking about Zaion? And why would the person replying think she's talking about Zaion? That doesn't even make sense. Stop coping.
Because Silver was friends with Sayu before Niji.

>>49616457
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>49616457
>western whores
>hypocrites
It's just their natural state, anon.

>>49616469
veibae and shylily are literally the same people
dumb, shallow, retarded cunts

>>49615325
Why do trannies talk with memes from the 1990s.

>>49615800
Fair, but highly unlikely. It only damages her reputation.

>>49615906
I dunno. A more in-depth opinion? A closer look into the inner workings of Vshojo? This weird grey area of too much information, yet also not enough just serves to annoy me

>>49615217
Btw she's supposed to be friends with Ame from Hololive. Weird.

>>49616733
Ame is a rageholic that stopped talking to Gura out of spite and keeps streaming on her PL account more than Ame, so it makes sense.

>>49616456
You're completely missing my point. I'm saying that 'parasocial' is literally not the right word to describe what we are talking about. Employees of a company secretly hating each other but pretending to get along is a bi-product of workplace culture and has been around long before the term 'parasocial' even existed.

>>49613143
this comment is parasocial

>>49616733
Ame hates parasocials too

>>49616733
yeah, supposed
God knows if they actually talk with each other at all
there's a western indie called Layna, Silver used to collab all the time with her, but the suddenly stopped interacting with each other out of nowhere
wouldn't surprise me if she also cut ties with Ame

>>49616508
I meant Silver and Vshojo the company

>>49616835
But Vshojo is a whore too

>>49616835
Vshojo is a whore company

>>49616778
>Employees of a company secretly hating each other but pretending to get along is a bi-product of workplace culture and has been around long before the term 'parasocial' even existed.

Yes but the difference is that the PRODUCT that vtuber companies sell is their public image, their brand and how perfect and loving they are. It directly affects their income.

Again, we are talking about VSHOJO. They ghosted Silver for months, didn't talk to each other. They faked being friends for a long long time, but never directly said so publicly since it would affect their income.

It's not the same as Jerry and Lois from marketing saying good morning to each other while secretly being hateful.

>>49612177
>vshojo literally confirmed for siding with FROOT
you can't make this up....WHERE'S THE FUCKING MONEY, SHIT HEAD?

>>49612966
She's kind of a bimbo, but then again that is my fetish.

>>49616918
>>49616940
true but they have male CEOs

When did she get suspended? Completed the game on stream and never took a break.

>>49617043
they're manwhores

>>49617043
>Implying males can't be whores

>>49612887
Parasocial relationships entirely benefit the streamer at a detriment to the audience's wallets

>>49617085
didn't she stream it twice after the initial one?

How would a Vshojo suspension even work if the streamers own the IP?

>>49616996
except silverwhore was blubbering in ironmouse's post/pre/whatever concert vrchat video lmao

"bbuh buh i love u so much buh buh"

>>49617191
with the threat of severing their contract

>>49617191
that's what i'd like to know
like, what can they do if she doesn't comply? kick her out when she was already planning to leave?

Does suspend mean the normal meaning of being banned from streaming/tweeting for some time or is she using that to mean "suspension of the contract"? I didn't think vshojo could even force regular suspensions

>>49617327
Zen was considering leaving too but she is still in so maybe Silver was still considering staying until after some thinking

Man, whoever recorded the evidence is fucking retarded. Too late for that.

>>49617246
>except silverwhore was blubbering in ironmouse's post/pre/whatever concert vrchat video lmao
>"bbuh buh i love u so much buh buh"

Yep. And she saw how retarded and scummy that is, so she stopped and left. Specially after all the others turned their back on her.

Changing your mind is not hypocrisy, means that you grew as a person.

>>49617419
she still acts like that towards her own fans, which are totally not parasocial like hololive fans are, obviously

>>49617468
Even before vshojo she constantly streamed with males. They are definitively not the same.

>>49617560
the only males I remember her streamign regularly with are Robcdee and Roflgato, the former is married and the latter is in a relationship, so they aren't gonna stop the simp bucks from coming in

>>49614415
Good. I'm glad the backstabber cheater don't flourish

>>49617419
exceeeept that video was recorded around January, then goes to say that she hasn't spoken to ironmouse in months.

then is all catty and shitty once she is "free"

at this point, her quality of character is so dubious that I wouldn't bet on it in a race with a lobotomized horse

>>49617419
>thinking a woman who's spent years playing pretend with her colleagues and patrons and continues to do so to this day learned it's scummy to be predatory in the span of a few months
Damn, bro, how do you get around with blinders on 24/7?

Another important bit to consider.
Vei said that management advised her not to play the game, but Silver is now saying they suspended her?
Do you think they actually suspended her or she just took "Hey, maybe streaming that game right now might not be the best idea" as suspension and is being retarded over it?

>>49614358
It’s a pretty common idea among the top streamers, probably got the idea from Soda’s group and Veibae that they aren’t dependent on people being parasocial to them for success for some reason when that’s clearly not the case as their fans are obsessed with their lives and who they’re dating and having beefs with.

>>49617817
Really that's my assumption at this point. SHe may have been told to take a few days off or something in response to the crying fit she had on stream and she took that to mean she was being suspended. It just doesn't make sense if she got in trouble for playing the game then immediately played it again upon returning from her break.

Was Silver always this retarded? I never watched her but she seemed pretty chill before all the wizard game drama, and now this.

>>49617627
I mean, she has sent her nudes to married men before

>>49617999
would kind of fit her ...

so was this confirmed real or fake? seems like bait for dramafags

>>49618015
>I never watched her but she seemed pretty chill before all the wizard game drama
you don't remember the Dexerto article? or her whole hissy fit back in 2021 when a chatter asked her if she was gonna collab with another Vshojo? she was always like this

>>49618015
She was super bitchy and spiteful before vshojo, then she kinda mellowed down with Melody and played along as long as it paid well.

>>49618015
I don't think she's retarded, I think she's saying manipulative things on purpose
I watched her blame an entire 4000-viewer chat as "you guys" for a handful of trolls harshing on her for struggling with a Zelda puzzle, she knows full well how to weaponize and gaslight her following

>>49618189
the parasocial comment is definitely reals, the suspension one I can't tell, since it was deleted per the leaker's words

>silvervale
>gets fired after wanting to play wizard game
>henya
>gets hired after wanting to play wizard game

>>49618367
>fired
sure bro

>>49618038
Bitch isnt even hot lmao

>suspended

>>49618367
>one wizard gamer leaves
>another joins, cunny to boot
how does this bode for the "Vshojo chose trannies" narrative?

>>49618480
the nose knows

>>49612177
Is this bitch still farming drama? I wonder if she'll ever stop clout chasing

>>49618522
she she hasn't streamed for long intervals like that since september last year? the suspension rrat seems less likelier then

>>49618591
Streamers cannot do anything but make drama or clout chase (joining a company is the definition of clout chasing).

>>49618480
She's cute

>>49618278
ah gotcha, that retarded comment does seem like something she would say

>>49618480
Is it just me or does she look british?

>>49612887
kson... I kneel

[lol]

>>49618197
>he Dexerto article
The 1st or the 2nd one? Because the 2nd writer ended up being retarded and paraphrased her words and ended up making her look bad

>>49613972
Shady implications?
Nope, that is something literally everyone who is signing a contract that is going to involve anything like this should do. Nobody should be signing up for any agency without having a lawyer who knows these type of contracts look over them.

>>49616996
damn why are these Disney princesses at Disney World so chummy with each other.

>>49617817
Maybe she was taking a jab at Nijisanji and the Zaion situation? I mean, I don't know how VShojo can stop her from streaming entirely if she did something wrong, as far as I know they don't control her accounts or the app she uses to be a VTuber.

>>49612379
translation: I made it up

>>49613850
Silvervale is pulling a "Corpos are horrible" when all the decent corpos can't stop winning and all her viewers consume either Niji or Holo content.
She's so fucking stupid I can't fucking believe it... she's being more retarded than Rushia.

>>49619039
>damn why are these Disney princesses at Disney World so chummy with each other.

Because they are playing a role. The assumption for western streamers is that they are at least more upfront and honest than Japanese ones.
"You're so real for this" is a saying because the internet gives clout to people being true to themselves.

>trusting someone below room temperature iq
>caring about vshoujo
Why are anons like this

>>49614255
Silver is the literal only one that has said anything bad. Vei has said basically fuck all and Pink Cat the same. Hell Nyan was playing smite showing off all the Vhshojo skins yesterday and spent half her time playing as froot.

>>49612887
Silver come on now.
>Parasocial bad
When you claim to be the foxgirl gf and your patreon is all about you fucking the personafication of your viewers.

How the fuck does Vshojo suspend her when she controls all her accounts and owns her character?

>>49612887
Really thought Silver was one of the more sane vshojo girls but she's just as dumb as the rest of them

>>49617817
>or she just took "Hey, maybe streaming that game right now might not be the best idea" as suspension and is being retarded over it?
"Being retarded" is generous, she's probably deliberately being misleading because she has a seething jealousy of Ironmouse.

>>49612177
Based
>>49612887
Cringe

Bitch makes NSFW RP for fans behind a paywall at this point parasocial is just a catch-all word for anything you these streamers dislike.

>>49619333
That fact alone makes the entire suspension rrat flimsy as all fuck. What leverage does a corp that has zero ownership of your IP/model/brand have to suspend you? It's one thing if you signed the rights away like a retard like Yuri did with Phase, but that's not the case here as Silver, along with Vei and Pink Cat all left vshojo with full ownership of themselves fully intact.

>>49616692
Only vshoujo's reputation was damaged by this
The terminally online twitter freaks haven't forgiven her and never will forgive her.
4chan will just say she's based.

Open wide
https://files.catbox.moe/9y0mox.mp4

>>49619811
>https://files.catbox.moe/9y0mox.mp4
Surely it is fake because the clipper managed to fake a whole discord chat and someone mentioning Hololive in response to Silvervale just to make bait for /vt/

>>49619811
Again what the fuck does parasocial mean in this context? "It's super parasocial" to the company? The viewers who will come and watch? What the fuck does Parasocial even mean anymore.
Goddammit Silver you retard.

>"STOP WATCHING ME, YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS"

>>49619936
One message is fake, the one in the video is real

>>49617095
They can’t. Lock and key analogy.

>>49612345
>She left VShojo and joined Mythic and now she's saying Mythic won't suspend her over a video game. Read between the lines.
NTA Talent freedom is bad. Especially for bitches.

>>49620311
shut up whore

>>49619811
Based anon, delivering the goods.

>>49620107
I think the best explanation is just that Silver is retarded and her words don't have any meaning.

>>49612177
Talent freedom
- can get suspended
- can shit on ex-company anytime anywhere

Anons in /vt/ are often being despised because they are shit flinging monkeys. But how are they different from Vshojos? How and why do support a vtuber like this?

>>49619206
Again, Vei implied something incredibly shady about the contracts lmao
>nyanners didn't say anything
because nyanners is soulless and her decision was purely profit driven

>>49619018
>Veibae giving helpful advice
>literally right after refusing contract
>advice specifically about contract
>Advice from Veibae, well known philanthropist
Oh fuck off

>>49621020
nah vei left on legitimately good terms, silvers just a bitch

>>49612887
RED TEXT DISTORTED FACE ANON WW@?

>>49620228
>one message is fake
clearly not given anon recorded reactions to it you troglodyte

>>49619140
>she's being more retarded than Rushia
Rushia kicked herself out from the best female vtuber agency. Has Silver done a stupider mistake?

>>49621178
>reactions
>1 dude responding negatively and every other comment celebrating

>>49612887
silvervale
you
are
parasocial
with
your
viewers
whether you like it or not
denying it doesnt make you look cool, it makes you look stupid.
if you werent parasocial you woulldnt have viewers and certainly you wouldnt have people paying you to read your posts.

>>49617419
>Changing your mind is not hypocrisy, means that you grew as a person.
Ame: Grow yourself!
Vshoujos: Hold my beer.

>>49612966
Same girl that said LGPedos+ were great after they harassed her for wizard game.

>>49621178
Show me what you think are reactions to the first message, the one in the OP.

>>49612887
This is why women shouldn't have voting rights. They simply fail to recognize contradictions.

silver and her tier 3 cronies always saw places like hololive LE BAD PARASOCIAL CORP

>>49616456
>Holo can only exist as long as people believe all the streamers in there love each other,
Kiara: They didn't tell me about the trip.

KFP: Kiara has done nothing wrong! Bringing it up on screen before discussing it in private is okay!

>>49619811
So OP's message is a fake and the other one is real?
That kinda make sense. I don't think Vshojo would have authority to push suspensions.

>>49621178
you can't see the reactions you discordlet, that's why everyone's saying it's fake

Vshojo is unironically better now that they weeded out their dramawhore talents.

>>49614584
proof that both the fake post and fake supsension was real? Are you real?

>>49621960
the parasocial post is real as seen:
https://files.catbox.moe/9y0mox.mp4

as for the suspension post, >>49615107 its unlikely kek

>>49614919
Having worked for a popular youtube, some of the most parasocial fans are also some of the most outspokenly against parasocial fans. For some it's very much a thing to prove your devotion by being against that kind of thing, while thinking privately "I'm not like those other parasocial fans". Some people seem to find the double think very easy to execute.

>>49613544
This gives me vague feelings of Starcraft 2, where Blizzard was hyper focused on advertising it first and foremost as an esport, then it came out and died down to 1/10 it's size and most players quit within a couple years because they forgot to make the game actually fun

>>49614178
She played THE GAME

>>49621597
Lol, wonder how many people in hololive would rather be an indie vtuber instead

>>49612887
>corpos force a distance between the streamer and their audience specifically to avoid yabs and drama from people getting too close, specifically disallowing things like interactions with private fan discords
>this is parasocial
???
?????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????
this is so fundamentally retarded that I almost hope the trannies go after her again

>>49612887
lol

>>49612177
>>49612887
Ok. I believe it because this is so stupid, she is so stupid it's real
>I'm not like those other gfe corpo girls! I'm gfe AMD REAL
kek

>>49617817
Silvervale is an idiot, so it's not impossible, but she also phrased her response to the "are you still friends with mouse" in a very blatantly inflammatory way and (as far as I know) has made no attempt to clear up her snide insinuations. So yeah, she's also obviously being deliberately dishonest/unclear about these things.

>>49621597
>silver and 2 views complaining of the walled eden that is Hololive

>>49615266
If fanart featuring all of them is parasocial, then yeah it gives more support that anyone using the term as a negative is off the rocker

PARASOCIAL FUCKS

So uh, who do we side here Nijibros, holobros, small corpo bros?

>>49618015
She threw dirt at Hololive and Nijisanji but mostly the former every chance she gets. The dexerto article was the worst one

>>49620432
Tits or gtfo whore

>>49612177
kek

>>49612177
Bet she thought she can be 2011 CM Punk

>>49613363
Anyone with 100ccv or above does not benefit much from a small corpo, they can network and make deals on their own with an audience that big, plenty of them do.
The small corpo will boost them to 300 at best.
Anyone above 500ccv will only see minor benefit from Nijisanji, they will give up a lot of their cut if they work there and the audience boost is marginal at this point, they get auto network into that group but be real it's a garbage group so it's not worth shit.
And finally there's Hololive.
The floor for HoloEN is 3k CCV, they give a stable pay, good merch cut. It's a dream corpo for anyone that isn't already raking at least 3k, and even then they can gain even more through sheer exposure.
The ceiling for HoloEN is 20k at the very minimum, but realistically it goes to 30k.
Anyone who was actually talented, hungry for success and worked hard could achieve the 30k tier in HoloEN.
but
>Joining HoloEN
EN3 is still missing, it might be missing for a whole year, or even two more years, nobody knows at this point if it will ever even happen and they will likely numberfag and choose an overworked artist again, some shitty VA, and other people with big careers already or some sort of massive numbers. And there will only be 5 spots.
So it's completely unrealistic to get into HoloEN for any normal vtuber.

So to sum it up small corpo is not worth it if you are a 3 view, and NijiEN is not worth it unless you are below 500ccv.
Vshoujo is an odd case because it's a nepotism company, no one is going to get recruited or accepted into that company, it's all done through connections.
I'm not gonna say corpos are 100% useless, if you are a shy piece of shit, lazy or not very proactive, if you can't negotiate your own deals for your own merch, if you can't design it yourself, if you can't do social networking to find friends on your own, perhaps a corpo job is good for you.

>>49622370
Oh ho hooo cowboy! hold your horses! Let's not stoop that low, alright?

>>49612177
lots of hate from the talent freedom group for this

>>49615217
This isn't an attack on Hololive this is a jab on Hololive fans, a very accurate and well deserved jab.
Those motherfuckers will go for months crying they have no streams, nothing to watch, half their girls are on break, they only have a few streams per week.
But when told to check out indies or girls from other companies they recoil in disgust.

>>49624328
ah nice, babby's first criticism

>>49624479
better than yours :^)

>>49621724
>>49621919
are you blind?
>>49615850
>>49615850
>>49615850

>>49621250
>1 dude responding
>the 1 dude is the only one that is fucking quoting the DELETED MESSAGE
>celebrating
>Silver literally announcing she gets into a better corporation in the OP SCREENSHOT
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>49612887
cuckshojo bros your respond?

>>49612887
just say you're too retarded for an actual job, woman

>>49624328
I mean yeah I'd recoil in disgust too if the chuubas i was checking out spergs out like a retard like this behind a paywall.

>>49616308
what job do you have where anyone in the same company as you is talked about as if they were your best friend

>>49624673
i don't think you understand what a "reaction" is

>>49626994
any job where you aren't a retard who is openly belligerent towards your coworkers