/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUa0kZvEpwI
Kanata Azki MC

Man... This place is too easy to change discussion into homostars

GRIM

>>49588095
we're just a reconstructed /vyt/ after it initially splintered into pieces.

Phasetrannies status?

>>49590277
Recent clip numbers
>>49587342
>>49587384
>>49587419
>>49587464
>>49587509

>it crashed
fucking kek

Cool Cat vs Hips

GRIM

>>49590308
Not really. Too much EN discussion here including some irrelevant small corpo and too few people watch JP other than Holo and Niji.

>>49590239
I agree and I would have binned the Holostars or at least spun them off the company.

>>49590210
Investors mean fuck all. The investors that had any power were the ones holding 10%, 12% of the company in their hands.
These divested and now the shares are diluted in the open market in the hands of hundreds of small voiceless investors

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>49,970: Pekora (Hololive)
>45,979: Subaru (Hololive)
>30,400: Suisei (Hololive)
>28,410: Towa (Hololive)
>26,305: Chiroru (Indie)
>20,279: Suisei (Hololive)
>19,621: Rena (Nijisanji)
>17,444: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,784: Patra (774 inc)
>15,804: Polka (Hololive)
>15,655: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,792: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14,737: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,653: Noah (VSPO)
>11,835: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,615: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,470: Luna (Hololive)

>>49590277
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread:
>Asahina Akane graduation. Will also retire from Nornis, with the group continuing activity.
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1658714091018670080
>First Phase invader teaser, debut May 27th
https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1658638466417295360
>NijiEN Lords Mobile sponsorship event
https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1658487484656017413
>Haru Kaida & Shellin Burgundy of NijiJP will star as VAs in the new King's Avatar Movie
https://twitter.com/aniverse_brs/status/1658324829257494528
>UMESEA (JP members) merch sales event, tie-in with Sunshine City's Okiwana festival event
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1658744164455153664
>Hololive X Valkyrie Connect collab live now
https://twitter.com/Vconnect_jp/status/1658774358264008704
>Cover released new guideline for fans
JP: https://hololivepro.com/news/20230517-01-27/
EN: https://hololivepro.com/en/news/20230517-01-8/

>Old news
>Cover corp FY2023 results presentation slides
JP: https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/cae05c8f/a7d0/4f34/9d3b/b96d7faf56ef/140120230512570029.pdf
EN: https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/62eb9a65/9e54/4a54/a729/213069140703/20230512160417786s.pdf
>Toshaka Yura will graduate from MateReal (Palette Project/Brave Group) on June 11th
https://twitter.com/tohsakayura/status/1657657106676453376
>Ayamo Nono will graduate from Re:Act on June 4th, for "personal reasons".
https://twitter.com/Re_AcT_/status/1658026935749070848
>Interview with Nijisanji's executive producer
https://www.moguravr.com/nijisanji-general-producer-interview/

>ALL HANDS ON DECK BIG MEETING
A couple of weeks ago there was a big holopro meeting. What was the meeting about exactly? IRyS revealed that Cover was showcasing their custom-built In-house Hololive Karaoke app supported by JoySound, a permissions checklist, and another secret thing which Astel was worried of. (Reported by a diehard /vt/ homowatcher)

>>49590371
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut
13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.20
15) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,757 - Marshmallow Reading + Announcement
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,970 - Chat GPT

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
4x: Pekora
3x: Marine
1x: Hibari, Koyori, Mel, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
23x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
39x: Pekora
13x: Marine, Miko
6x: Toya
5x: Subaru
4x: Hal
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

SALAMI MENTION

This shit is basically a free advertisement for Sausage Legend
must be lucky that Subaru really loved their kusoge

>>49590277
Why are you guys okay with footfags running the thread

Cool Cat vs Hips
Botan wins

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>5/16 DAILY TALLY
6,991: Finana (Nijisanji)
6,481: Elira (Nijisanji)
6,347: Pomu (Nijisanji)
5,191: Mori (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)
13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)
15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast
16) Finana (Nijisanji) - 6,991 - Unarchived Karaoke (w/ Pomu & Elira)

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: IRyS
3x: Fauna
1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia, Mori, Vox, Kiara, Finana

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
31p: IRyS
21p: Fauna
15p: Mumei
13p: Mori, Ina
6p: Amelia, Kiara
5p: Luca, Gura, Baelz, Vox, Finana
4p: Shu
3p: Elira
1p: Ike, Pomu

Cool Cat vs CatFriend

>>49590393
Wasn't Astel thing about Homos getting standardized merch?

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>49590439
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
97x: Hololive
37x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
14x: IRyS
13x: Mori
12x: Fauna
10x: Gura
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Ina, Amelia, Vox
7x: Kronii
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca, Finana
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
133p: Fauna
108p: IRyS
96p: Mori, Ina
93p: Mumei
84p: Baelz
69p: Vox
61p: Amelia
54p: Kiara
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
22p: Shu
17p: Pomu
13p: Finana
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny, Ike
10p: Elira
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>a simple statement telling people to be nice sent the entire board in a state of schizophrenia

fubuchan's little penis

>support hololive and your oshi no matter what happens!
No. It's a two way relationship, provide what I like and you get my money and attention. If not we can both go elsewhere. Yesmen, at the end of the day, are not a solid foundation. Most people are not actually yesmen, they're yesmen on the surface but lose interest and engage less and less with content.

>>49590499
They literally did not say this

>>49590484
Blame EN tranny managament

Cool Cat vs CatFriend
Fubuki wins

>>49590377

WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE FOR TOURNAMENT SUPREMACY?

>THE FULL FORCE OF THE BIGGEST JAPANESE VTUBER COMPANY BY MARKET CAPITALIZATION, ARMED WITH THEIR BEST AND BRIGHTEST FROM FOUR CONTINENTS, IN AN ENSEMBLE OF THIRTY LIVERS PLAYING ONE OF THE MOST CELEBRATED GAMES IN THE JAPANESE INDUSTRY?
>one meek mma coach with a ragtag bunch of her weakest friends playing a kusoge which consists in hitting each other in the sausage?

THE ANSWER WILL CONFUSE, ANGER AND BAFFLE YOU AND ENLARGE YOUR SAUSAGE!

>>49590484
Nobody trust en management

fubuki's short sausage winning demonstrates that it's not about the size

>>49590539
>>49590579
>statement released during JP hours, in both languages
>EN management
use your heads onegai

>>49590484
no, many are speculating since holotalents started qrt it... they dont usually do that with most announcements

>>49590370
Not to mention why the fuck would they think Cover got lucky when they have the biggest vtubers from Japan, Indonesia and the west? 54 members in total have various degrees of success, from absurdly huge to doing quite fucking well for most streamers standards, so why the fuck would investors laser focus on the 21 members who aren't doing so hot when they're still doing decently even if they less popular?

>>49590393
Was Astel the only one who mentioned this secret thing or did any of the girls also alluded to it?

Its all about technique and not the size of yer weiner

>>49590581
SEAbro . . .

It's HomoEN3 isn't it?

>>49590393
It's finally happening... Holostars will finally be dissolved and will be absorbed into the hololive branding. Callie hinted at this when she called Tempus the "hololive boys". Unicorn bros our response if this Rrat becomes true?

>don't be nasty pricks or go off schizo
>this deeply offends the numbers thread
hilarious innit

Catfrend vs Titty Cowknight

go danchou go!

>>49590659
>Callie
sister...

>>49590660
>be an NPC
No.

https://note.com/ippan_student_c/n/na1604cb04e58
Notes from someone who applied to Cover and got to the final interview.
Interesting points:
>A lot of other fresh grads he knew have also applied and failed
>lots of emails back and forth for formalities after the first screening
>First interview is normal with standard questions
>Second interview with yagoo and a couple of there person was more nuanced
>felt like they were looking for people with enthusiasm and those who are able to conform with the company's vision
>expected full-time salary is about 2M yen annual

>>49590625
Because Cover is about to butcher the golden goose so a few paupers can have a good meal or two.

80K for meme sausage game
Based duck

>>49590695
>2M yen annual
isnt that bad?

80k DORYAAAAAAAAAA

Catfrend vs Titty Cowknight
NOEL WINS

Noel is the queen of sausage unsurprisingly

>>49590695
>2M yen annual
Thousand dollars a month plus benefits, seems like an entry level job

>>49590608
Anon... we know all of EN management is in the JP timezone.

NOELCOCK WINS

>>49590660
Just consume.

>>49590693
the /pol/ club's two blocks down

>>49590484
It's just smells like something bad is going to happen soon and they are getting ready.

noel gets to stick her sausage in subaru tonight

Noeru is very experienced with sausages.

>>49590708
So it's not about the investors but Cover's/Yagoo's saviourfaggism towards a bunch of homos who are still doing well all things concerned.

LOL, noel is crying

>>49590416
because he's based.

Happy talents create happy fans, clearly management doesnt like the thought of that when they debuted tempus

noel orgasm livr on screen

>>49590746
For fresh grads it's normal.

>>49590370
yeah that's not how it works morons. You only discontinue a product if its losing money or barely breaking even and your prior investments can be put into other things.

Example, you sell both muffin and cookies. Your cookies sell but your muffin barely does. In this case its okay to stop selling muffin and make bread instead. The muffin molds can be used to make certain bread, same with your leftover ingredients. Your investment isnt wasted in the transition.

Its different with the stars. Dropping them when they are still earning you profit is bad business. Your investments in them can't be turned into anything else, it'd disappear into thin air. You make a product not because you want your customer to consume the other product. They are already consuming your main product. You make a new product (in this case, the stars) because you are targeting a different audience, aka those that arent interested in your first product.

God you people know shit about the corporate world.

>>49590806
If stars are doing well now then why integrate them?

>>49590768
We have precedent for EN management statements because of Kronii's dumbassery, they happen during EN hours. I implore you, please use what little brainpower you have.

>>49590801
subaru's specially

>>49590746
That's the base wage they get regardless of performance, big money comes from their cut of the merch/membersships/scs

>>49590813

Noel's love for Shuba's sausage is too stronk

>>49590797
HoloTaiwan soon

>>49590746
there would have to be commissions because that's awful. I get more on aussie dole than that.

Noel is so good at playing with sausage

>>49590757

>>49590761
>>49590819
>>49590746
That's below Tokyo's minimum wage of 1072yen/hour.
Cover yab

>>49590739
peak was 81111 kek

>>49590746
It's normal.
Salaries, taxes and prices haven't changed much in Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZQetBNk3kE

>>49590659
Wouldn't combining them with the main branch help with visibility or are they worried this is the first step towards Nijisanji ID treatment?

>>49590611
That's true actually. What exactly is Cover cooking here. They're conditioning us for something major that might happen soon.

>>49590832
So in other words, rebrand holostars? Isn't that what they were doing with uproar and Tempus? And they fucked up the momentum by firing the beyblade guy and suspending Vesper.

>>49590832
What if the muffins were damaging the sales of the cookies more than they were bringing in themselves

>>49590915
for it's just your imagination running wild.

>>49590608
>>49590841
>knows he's wrong
>insults everyone that calls him out
Maybe anger management would be more useful than visiting this thread.

Gura is 1st army right?

>>49590832
>You only discontinue a product if its losing money or barely breaking even
Nah, that's not true, plenty of times a product making a modest profit got discontinued for a variety of reasons, including no longer fitting in the company desired direction.
Usually, when that happens, it is caused by the company trying to refocus on their primary strength to avoid getting challenged where it matters and this could easily be construed as the case for Hololive to focus on the girls and abandon the idea of having the boys succeed.

>>49590757
Yeah, mine

extra round, the champ gets to fight the host

>>49590843
It's for staff position anonchama

>>49590904
Still more than Anycolor 0yen/hour

>>49590957
lol

Final boss Subaru too strong

>>49590957
nope

AAAAIIIIIEEE SUBARU HAS STRONGER SAUSAGE

>>49590746
>>49590761
Yea, that's pretty weak, like, 2/3rds what I'd expect for someone who's a fresh post-secondary grad. 3-3.5m yen would be expected for someone in their early 20s....

They could just create a subsidiary company under Cover for Holostars and that will solve a lot of problems for them

>>49590911
This is fuck up, minna let's all work at klown food factory after this...

>>49590301
wait until homostarsID debuted

>>49590974
>NoelShuba sausage fight
H-HOT!

>>49590957
Not really, Gura is the EN market #1 without any peer or competition. The "army" moniker doesn't apply to her in her market, as there is nobody even close to her strength

>>49590832
Stars negatively affect the girls though, they cause bad reputation and tons of anti-drama. If you make muffins out of shit it will affect your cookie sales as well.

>>49590611
>Holo retweet the new policy of the company they work for
Literally normal, not even the first time. They also mass retweet the Cover-Anykara anti-harassment policy

>>49590976
that's normal for newly graduated with no experience.

Noel gets to play with Flares monster sausage every night and she still cant win

>>49590832
Alright, but the Stars are still doing decently well if you compare them to the majority of vtubers out there. Why would the investors require Cover to make them as successful as Hololive when they're already decently big by themselves?

>>49590837
But that's my point. Why force the HoloPro unity when the Stars are already doing well by themselves if you just don;'t compare them with the absolute monsters that are the top Hololive members?

>>49590936
They'd need to rebrand Holostars and disassociate from Hololive. Hololive fans don't want them in the Holobox and it just gives everyone bad publicity every time Cover tries to do it.

>>49590911
No wonder their tech sector is so fucking far behind the rest of the world.

>>49591008
>They could just create a subsidiary company under Cover for Holostars
THEY ALREADY DID! The name is "Holostars", which was a completely different agency from "Hololive".
That is, until they had the boneheaded idea in 2019 to create "Hololive Productions" and put both agencies in the same holding production company.

>>49590946
How would the muffins damage the sales of the cookies baka. Like seriously, you live your life like that? Your dislike for Lay's Salt and Pepper would stop you from buying your favorite Sour Cream flavor? You guys are weird.

>>49591064
>compare them to the majority of vtubers out there.
Is that the Final Final Final Cope!?!?!?!?

>>49590761
Does their entry level jobs also require applicants to have 5 year experience?

>>49590685
No. But the sister vermins are lurking so be alert not to fall for cheap bait.

>>49591108
It's the numbercope that's existed for the stars for ages.

I honestly wonder why Cover never tried creating an experimental third mixed gender branch separate from Hololive and Holo Stars

>>49591010
Stagnant wages has been an issue in Japan since the 90’s

>>49591031
Gura is too weak imo. She's a 2nd army

>>49591110
they were interviewing graduates anon...

>>49590832
What if, not only are your muffins bad, they're so bad that people are now avoiding your company completely because they lost trust in you?

>>49591143
They have though. It's called Uproar

>>49590936
>firing the beyblade guy
qrd?

>>49591108
What, you want Cover to shove the homos down your throat?

>>49591143
They don't even know what to do with a male branch

>>49591143
They'd have to cade the reality that'd it'd bomb and the girls in the mixed branch would try passing themselves off as real holos within about 2 months from debut.

>>49591143
They should create a transgender bunch of vtubers to support the cause.

KEK!
Hey anontachi, go type とだ on YouTube
>ChatGPT KNEW

>>49591040
there is no "new policy" anonchama, from the outside its a very basic guideline unless its been done for a certain announcement
>anti-harassement
yes and that resulted in dozens of cases and lawsuits
What is this announcement resulting in??

>>49590936
Bayblade guy if from StarsJP3 which debuted almost 2 years before Uproar.

>>49590832

>clock merch sales not even half of council peers
>cover makes a statement
>support us no matter what
>it may be "just" a difference in opinion
looks like they are going turbo with homoshilling with that statement

Someone can compare the salary and the benefits(the stuff included in the recruitment paper) of working for cover vs other company?

>>49591206
>transgender bunch of vtubers
Thats Tempus

Chiroru 15K

>>49591082
why attach "holo" to the name, that's a big problem, the proximity to Hololive is their saviour but a doom as well

in other more interesting news, 4chan is getting sued. https://www.wired.com/story/buffalo-shooting-white-supremacy-lawsuit-4chan/

>>49591216
>boat race
holy batman

>>49591254
Entry level office jobs in Japan vary from 250-300 USD a month, Cover is offering 1.2k+ USD a month

>>49591242
It's a JP thing., The JP management is going turbo homo shilling.

I don't blame Cover for trying out new things, I blame them for ignoring the result and proceeding as if things worked out.

>>49590832
Sharts aren't muffin and they are hurting Cover's revenues than otherwise.
Holo hires 4 staffs per talents according to their latest report and Cover paid an average of 5M yen per staff. That means they are spending around 160M yen or 1.2M USD per year to support the Stars branch. Not to mention the expenses they incurred for ads and other materials to promote their venture into a hopeless audience.
Reminder that all the SCs and merch sales combined that we have scraped doesn't even total 500k USD for the entire branch so far.
Meanwhile their existence is threatening the girls' audience and earnings. See Kronii's merch sales and pic related

Moona's minecraft is not as strong no?

Holo 80.6K, Vspo 16K, Indie 15.5K, Niji 11.3K

>>49591031
Gura's numbers don't reflect her her true value to EN branch. She's too iconic for EN branch. JP will take a heavy blow but survives if it loses Pekora. But EN will be doomed if it loses Gura.

Gura is 1st army but her value exceeds 1st army. A similar example would be Sora. No one will say Sora's value is less than 1st army.

>>49591316
oh nyo

>>49591276
that's why they're going with uproar and tempus from now on

>>49591328
and the benefits? i heard about health check and etc from part of cover

>>49591328
Is Japan actually a third world country?

>>49591378
Chumbuds pls. The numbers of holoEN numbers won't change with or without gura

>>49591096
Yes if you keep finding salt&pepper chips in you sour cream bag.
I rather pick Pringles next time

>>49591349
hmm

>>49591143
Because the girls would be resentful if they were never considered “true” Holos, not invited to events or get to be part of Hololive events. On the flip side, the guys would be resentful if their female genmates got to keep the Holo experience while they get nothing since they’re men (maybe just that one concert a year in the fall). They’d be second class citizens in their own gen.

>>49591316
Still cracks me up that 4chan is owned by the same company that sells Hololive nendos.

>>49591316
wrong thread, go back to /pol/

>>49590962
>pic
Bad example, the Bolt was a loss driver, GM lost money every time they sold one of those pieces of shit.

>>49591064
>the Stars are still doing decently well if you compare them to the majority of vtubers out there.
No they're not, not when compared with corporate male vtubers.
>pic related for the YTD average
Highest ranked ones are out of the top 30 (out of 100 tracked) and the lowest ranked ones only outrank some Neo-Porte, fucking WACTOR, SonyTubers and Hajime

The only reason they aren't axed for poor performance is because the PR hit would be worse than the saved resources but, if COVER wants to expand their main operation they'll have to consider whether it's worthy keeping an agency with the expectation of equal access to the company resources while adding only a fraction of what the main agency brings in terms of audience and revenue.

>Suisei 20K
So she can just stream in Pekora’s timeslot without repercussions?

>>49591339
>suspend all hololive streams in favor of homo 3d debut
>10k ccv
so they resorted on guilt-tripping?

>>49591328
What the fuck are you smoking, Japan's wages are lower than the US, but they're not that low for graduates.

>>49591328
>Entry level office jobs in Japan vary from 250-300 USD a month
No they fucking don't lmfao

>>49591434
you are right. Stars timeloop #623 is more interesting.

this is all Kronii's fault

Unironically and without joking, someone knows if Anycolor is hiring staff? i want to compare stuffs

>>49591224
The fuck are you babbling about? It’s literally normal to retweet company statement

>>49591440
>Uyu almost lost to Daimonji
That's pretty grim yo.

>>49591394
NTA but name doesn't matter, Tempus doesn't consist the term holo yet still interacts with Holo.

>>49591484
Do saplings really?

>>49591316
GSC should have sold sooner

>>49591453
Primetime is not private possession

>>49590611
What the fuck is this 'something bad'?
Graduation?
I doubt so since holocity is going to happen this year.

>>49590377
Another Re:Act graduating
Syuka Bisui suspension of activity
https://twitter.com/Re_AcT_/status/1658804559597150211?s=20

>>49591514
they are suing Goodsmile too, for some reason.

>>49591440
They're still turning a profit, you're a retard.

>>49591493
The number of employees per fiscal quarter is in their financial statement, you likely can't know for this particular ongoing quarter but you can see how many they did hire quarter by quarter

>>49591440
So Cover's choice are either sacking the whole branch or shove them deep inside the Holobox risking a much worse repercussions than just doing the first option?

>>49591534
Leona soon

>>49591545
See >>49591427

what's with the timing of the guidelines? there hasn't been a yab in a long time in hololive despite what the sisters here try to tell you but at the same time it feels like it is targeted at something?
it kind of feels like they are priming us for something preemptively
also there is not even something of substance in the article, it's just "be nice", did this really warrant a full post? it has been said before

>someone failed to get a job at cover
>disclose supposedly salary for new grads
since when did companies tell you your expected salary before passing the interview

>>49591394
>tempus
No they don't. They pushed them as HoloTempus

>>49591579
this is Kronii fault

>>49591534
sounds like hiatus not graduation
>Due to her health condition, we would like to announce that we will be suspending the activities of Bikan Sheka from today, May 17, 2023.
>We will inform you of the resumption date as soon as it is decided.

>>49591593
I’ve never heard of HoloTempus.

>>49591582
>since when did companies tell you your expected salary before passing the interview
Every time?

>>49591579
tempussy soon, it will have trannies in it, Kronii nepo hire

>>49591440
Not to mention Anycolor's male vtuber or any indie vtubers doesn't employ ~4 staffs per talent to support their activities.
StarsJP has been considered yagoo's personal project for a reason and the fact that they've tried to push them so hard so far is because they knew if they don't start getting revenues that justifies they costs they spend on them, they'd be out in the streets in no time

>>49591579
HoloPH soon and they're asking people to be nice

>>49591547
>They're still turning a profit, you're a retard.
They might be turning a profit, but it is a much smaller one than if they didn't exist and, instead (for the EN market, for instance), the same number of girls had debuted in the same period.
The only argument you could make would be
>they're trying to expand the market to an untapped source of revenue
but, as showing in the picture you're replying to, they're not expanding.

Holostars JP is stagnated and the recently debuted EN branch is in a death spiral whose average live viewership just dropped to 3 digits branch wide.
Even a 3 girls HoloEN gen having debuted in their place would have a bigger impact in the revenue and profit of the company, let alone a full one

>>49591503
>Stream at dog shit hours
>Stream for a week, rest 2 weeks, thrn stream for another whole week, then fuck off for 2 weeks, rinse and repeat
I still don't know why he's final hire for Uproar

>>49591579
Mixed gen.
Cover is probably thinking
>All the mixed collab always get good numbers, a mixed gen will obviously be a success

>>49591582
If you're not asking about salary in your first interview you're just telling them you don't value your time or skillset. Baffling that wherever you are would expect you to go through whatever gay team building hoops or whatever before letting you ask for a dollar figure.

>>49591579
>it feels like it is targeted at something

>>49591547
>profit
I don't see them making Cover 1.2M USD a year

>>49591663
Kek

>>49591649
He was trained wrong on purpose, as a joke.

>>49591663
Stop ban evading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgrBcP7AaJ8
i kneel, axel saving the neoporte aussie from low 3view hell

>>49591626

>>49591644
>They might be turning a profit
No they're not. Cover spend 1.2M USD a year on stars just on staffs not including artist, rigging, ads, etc

>>49591708
That is the only sentence you know how to type.

>>49591644
>muh opportunity cost buzzword
Stop pretending you know anything about the corporate world

>>49591649
To make things weirder his model was the only one that wasn't teased at the end of the Stars 1st Act.

Tomorrow's EN gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EatMZc1N3VM

>>49591717
>shit sales
>have to beg
lmao

>Chat: Encore! Encore
>Other talents: Ok, ok. Last song!
>Sora: Ok, ok. Only 30 minutes more!
Go Sora Go!!

>>49591710
red fubuki cute

It's 961
961*2080=2M yen on point (almost)
So they are barely above minimum. Are you waiting for someone to google it for you?
https://take-profit.org/en/statistics/wages/japan/#:~:text=What%20is%20average%20wage%20in,of%20Health%2C%20Labour%20and%20Welfare.

>>49591579
At least with the Kronii statement they were actually addressing people sperging out at her, deserved or not they were coming out in support of a talent who felt like they needed it at the time - this just came out of the blue and is incredibly condescending and misguided, can you imagine blizzard coming out with a
>here is how to be an unquestioning consumer guide
right after they axed their PVE mode for overwatch.
Embarassing, and it definitely seems suspect timing.

>>49591728
>buzzword
Yours was the first mention of the buzzword, my explanation was at length and very easy do understand.
They use the same company resources as the main agency, including one of the most sought upon
>studio and studio staff time
and they don't turn as much revenue as the main agency.
The reason they are kept around is definitely not related to any rational "corporate world" belief but because of the personal belief of the management that they're worthy keeping around regardless of cost.

Do /#/ anons trust Jap?

>>49591440
The merch thing just shows that they’re currently nudging them to improve their channel stats (sub count). Might be a sign of things to come for them if they still don’t improve since Yagoo can’t hide them forever.

>>49591453
Suisei hates Pekora. That's why us nousagi are justified in being her antis.

>>49591728
It's used correctly here you fuckwit homo defender. Time, money and staff that could have been used to get an en3 was instead burned for a bunch of 3view faggots.

>>49591823
I don't trust anyone who taught themselves Chinese.

>>49591653
>a mixed gen will obviously be a success
Thats what ollie did to her career and what happen???
She lose her own individuality and only get good numbers when she collab
Pretty bright future right???

>>49591749
Yeah, which made people speculated that he was some kind of hot shot. But in reality he's a fucking dumbass menhera faggot and a proof that Holostars brand is so fucking poisonous Cover can't even find a 4th JP homos that is willing to join the company until the last minute

I'm on my last limbs, I don't know what i'll do if Cover decides to pull another retarded move 3 times in a row.

Noah is doing a pred run, right? Who is the other with her along with Pakael? Numbers are too good, why is she getting this much?

>>49591823
He has done nothing thus far to earn my trust

>>49591823
>Do /#/ anons trust Jap?
/#/ is one person
Jap is another

On a serious note, Jap is no different than non-Jap in most aspects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EatMZc1N3VM
>Tempoop collabs during the day
>Drinks with First army at night
How does she continually get away with it?

>>49591803
Tokyo's minimum wage is 1072 anon, which is ~2.3M yen

>>49588431
>>49588471
https://twitter.com/ElysiumDelivery/status/1658616199087894529
He responded to something his fans made, but apparently it got some twitter folks in a tizzy.

>>49591579
Cover hired notYugo for EN3

>>49591643
STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DELETE THIS!!!!!

>>49591823
I neither trust or distrust him right now.
He needs to prove himself first to gain it.

>>49591925
I agree with troons this time: avocado sucks.

>>49591925
Why? People are getting their pants in a twist because he dissed cold noodles?

>>49591896
chill my friend, sit back relax drink something
i was agitated by the statement too

>>49591897
Shes so close to pred. Shes with Pakael and Mel(active pro Apex player)

>>49591922
well doesn't matter, her individual numbers are in the gutter anyway. but she can hide it with multiple collabs which is her objective

>>49591963
It's pretty good.

>>49591963
Fuck you nigger Avocado shake is fucking delicious

>>49591973
>active pro Apex player
Her numbers are too good, couldn't possibly be just Pakael.
Without looking at the names I would assume "kamito" but yeah, a real pro is even better company.

Did Selen suceeded at her pred run?

>>49591925
Nice nice nice!!!!
Burn burn burn!!!!!!

>>49592007
yes

>>49591840
One EN3 could probably outearn all of Tempus combined in bday merch sales (even Bae got 220k in merch sales). Vesper was the top homo for bday merch at $50k and then it was Magni at $30k iirc

>>49591963
avocado toast is heaven my guy

>>49592007
She did. Selen is now considered the best female player in the world.

>>49591316
Really just doing the sue everything so they might get some money route.

>>49592007
Yes. Carried by 2 pros

>>49591963
avocado smells like pussy

>>49591643
ow shiet

>>49591923
Still around ~2M which is what was mentioned. It's barely livabls in tokyo though. Cover seems like a company you want to go to get experience in the entertainment/animation/IT industry and move on to bigger companies after gaining experience

>>49591925
This is the dumbest yab ever

>>49592091
Cope. Selen is the best female apex player in the world right now. She carried those pro.

>>49592105
you know how sisters are...

>>49592105
i mean that's their audience.

>>49592007
Hskw got 20ks last year doing a dia run...

>>49592105
I dunno anon. People getting mad at Mr. Beast for paying the medical bill for blind people to get treatment was pretty dumb.

>>49592123
Whatever you say nijisis

JP will be the last bastion of what makes Hololive great until Cover ruins that next year.
kson will swoop in and promise a good atmosphere for disenfranchised holos.
I will quit watching vtubers by then, looking longingly at my merch when it goes into the shed.

>>49592095
what's going on here

>>49591925
Rumao, these people should be purged alongside the homos from the fanbase

>>49591925
lel even flips think Balut is a weird food. i like it when troons try to speak in behalf of people that don't give a fuck in these kinds of things.

>>49592186
Its a vtuber cope from years ago

>>49591925
Ahh the target audience

>>49591922
Calli is doing the same mistake as Ollie - They are people pleasers that try to make everybody happy but they don't realize that it will only anger different sections of the fanbases.
She has to understand that it is impossible to appease the unicorns, unitychads, RMfans and the Holo-tribalfags at the same time.

>>49592105
Anon, those people were mad when a Youtuber told them that they are cooking fried rice wrong

Have you guys notice nijiEN stopped having "nijiEN special" pattern of graph? I guess all the sisters left. Their graphs are pretty stable throughout the stream now.

>>49592212
>Balut is a fertilized developing egg embryo that is boiled or steamed and eaten from the shell. It is commonly sold as street food in South China and Southeast Asian countries, notably the Philippines, Cambodia and Vietnam

>>49591925
People are getting mad about food, what the fuck is wrong with their audience?

>>49591922
>How does she continually get away with it?
She doesn't. Her viewership and relevance is continuously falling.

>>49591972
He didn't even diss it, it was his fans who wrote it

>>49591897
She's been pushing for pred for a few days now and it looks like she'll finally get it today so people are getting hyped. Other guy is Meltstera, an Apex pro

>>49592096
I think Cover is searching for non-schizo hololive fans who'd take a cut in pay just to be part of it.

>>49592283
Do you know what are bean sprouts? Balut is basically animal version of bean sprout.

>>49592239
>it is impossible
Not according to Cover.

>>49592239
>Calli

>>49592310
Unfortunately selen already did this which is more kino since selen is actually really good.

>>49591925
This sister is a fan of Mega Flygon

>>49592283
Ive eaten some and its actually good
>expect eating an egg with unknown alien from space

>>49592366
Stop breaking containment retard

Fauna's sister is streaming

>>49591643
>HoloPH
That's disgusting.

>>49592273
No, but that's a good thing for accurately measuring their audience. It's a shame for the organs since they were big SCers.

>>49591963
faggot

>>49592283
Not a Flip but balut is basically a bird fetus stuck between the boiled white yolk

>>49592096
Anon, i made up the expected salary part. You can check that there's no such instance in the source.
I spend like 5-10 minutes translating that and found no juicy bits, so i made something up so at least i got some (You)s out of it.

>>49592273
They still get it during major Luxiem events iirc

So bets on upcoming announcement?
Will they reveal Tempus 3?

>>49592396
I'd be happy if that model could transfer to EN3.

>>49592366
That last comment is hilarious when a bunch of HoloEN members have been saying they want new members as early as December. Who the fuck is that faggot to decide if HoloEN is "in a great number right now"?

>>49592352
Selen actually got dead body carried by active top level pros, Noah has been playing with good players from her jap eceleb friend circle. Melt's the first actual pro she's played with and it has only been today. Her other teammate is a vtuber.

>>49591925
>all those indogs and nijiniggers in the replies

>>49592449
There is no upcoming announcement.

>>49590484
>>a simple statement telling people to be nice sent the entire board in a state of schizophrenia
kek what happened? I was out at school not home
qrd?

>>49592366
based, redditkeks will seethe over this

>>49592239
Mate only /vt/ and twitterfags are angered by her. The important fanbase - her youtube fanbase understands and appreciates her efforts. Honestly it is best for her to shed this retarded section of her fanbase and you can clearly see she is more motivated than ever before streaming a lot, organizing collabs and tournaments, releasing music and even getting her lifestyle sorted by exercising and visiting her family. Just compare her situation to any other holoEN member and you will see who made the right choice.

it's literally a nothingburger

>>49590695
>trust me bro
meh

>>49592366
>la grifter tag
This has to be clip watcher or something

>>49592479
It's like they're prepping the audience because they're about to do something monumentally stupid.

>>49592513
lol

>>49592366
>doubt branches share resources
yeah homoen definitely sourced their budget from homojp, right?

>>49592479
https://hololivepro.com/en/news/20230517-01-8/

>>49592462
Cope. Selen is widely considered as the best female apex player in the world and probably the best vtuber apex player.

>>49592479
Cover put out a statement that was basically, "be nice" seemingly out of nowhere. Schizo's are now breeding rrats about what caused Cover to release this statement

>>49591579
Doesn't feel targeted at anything specific to me, it's a general idol guideline.

>>49592434
Fucker. That makes more sense than anything else, but please go drink bleach.

終わりました

>>49592340
Still disgusting
Also literally haram in Islam

2 hours till it starts and already with 100 gifted and 200k

Either Fauna voiced some frustrations or they're about to make another mistake.

>>49592542
Yes, HoloPH soon

>>49592582
Let's hope it is the former.

>>49592449
Yeah, and that will permanently put the branch into 3view territory.

>>49592093
What kind of latina pussy you’re eating?

>>49592396
>194
Holy grim

>>49592456
I remember Fauna asking for it back during her drawing stream in October.
The girls have been asking for EN3 for over 6 months at this point and these people will still say they don't want them.

>>49592559
yeah, but if it's not targeted then why release it now or even in the first place if there was no reason
they didn't just wake up today and said: "you know what, today we are gonna release new fan guidelines"
upper management wanted this (as seen with it being JP first)

>>49591316
>>49591514
>>49592085
Lawsuits like this often get thrown out of court, especially if they can't prove that the platforms had a direct hand in causing this and didn't actively cooperate with law enforcement efforts due to that law that protects platforms from legal liability.

>>49592600
More like holoTR
5 transgender/non binary vtubers.

>>49592643
Being 3 view is good for a sony vtuber...

>>49592582
>Either Fauna voiced some frustrations or they're about to make another mistake.
You overestimate how much the main branch cares about every minor faux pas the side branches gets themselves into.

>>49592643
Is that grim for them? I legitimately don't know.

>>49592396
Is this the 1dollorFauna?
Kinda dissapointing DESU

>>49592582
>Still talking about Fauna
It doesn't even make sense, the sentence in the guidelines goes the opposite of what she said in her little speech.
Do you really think Cover would put a statement after one of their talent told people "we aren't friend" just to say "we are all friend in fact"

>>49592651
But when Tempus 2 dropped 5 months and 2 weeks after Tempus 1 these people were all ultra hyped about it.

>>49592643
That’s really good for that corpo

>>49592697
Sure, but this is way to coincidental especially considering none of the JP girls or the homos have been in any controversy granting "disrespect" from fans. It's so pointless to post that it HAS to be something.

>>49590695
>liberal arts student

>>49592667
that's basically HoloPH then

Wait the sausage tournament is already over?

>>49592697
Kronii literally made management tweet out a tweet to allow her to do the homocollab.

>>49592582
Check FBK twitter idiot!
/vt/ is not the main sauce

>>49592731
Being friends and being friendly are two different things, they're essentially just saying to keep shit civil.

>>49592542
DO THEY WANT BOUNDARIES OR NOT FUCK YOU I DONT GET IT

feels like preemptive damage control for someone big doing or announcing something stupid in the near future
everything else in the past did not cause Cover to post reminder or new guidelines about behaviour (except Kronii)

>>49592734
Actually Tempus2 was pretty divisive for homo supporters, it definitely caught EVERYONE off guard.

>>49592731
She asked them to put out this statement so that after the "break", she can walk back on what she said about the fans and say "it is Cover that said it I have to follow".

>>49592803
This doesn't make sense. If they really think it is stupid and the fans wouldn't like it, why would they greenlight it in the first place?

>>49592756
>Kronii literally made management tweet out a tweet to allow her to do the homocollab.
Wasn't that EN management and didn't they just re-post the shit the JP branch did during the Rushia shit?

I'm not gonna eat your veggies, Yagoo. Neither is anyone else. Enjoy your investor meetings and earnings conference calls about them though.

>>49591963
Kys troonie.

there's a war out there, and I'm glad I can't see it.

a fuckin gun kek

>>49592848
...
>fucked around, found out

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/13jr70y/how_much_demand_is_there_for_longer_clips_of_jp/jkhcynq/

>>49592851
Yes, it was specifically EN management during EN hours. JP had no involvement. idk if it was a repost or similar to the Rushia statement though

>>49592848
because, as they clarified with Kronii in the past, the talents manage their own brand and can collab with whomever they want(within reason) and produce the content they want(within reason)
they are ironically the company with the biggest "talent freedom"

>>49592871
rent free

>>49592872
If a person is killed outside your house but you didn't see it, was that person killed?

kek, this is too shameless
>raided on the outro screen
Maybe this is what they mean by “popular demand”

>>49592911
Ignorance is bliss.

(You) realise that if cover is moving towards supporting the girls more and letting them branch out in activities… that doesn’t mean they’re going to force them to do anything? In fact, it’s the opposite? so why would they force them to collab with the stars?
Do you honestly think they all want to collab with men? Most of them will just continue on in their own social bubbles.
Hell, you can even interpret this statement the opposite way, if they DON’T want to do that thing ie collab with Stars, you can’t force them to.

>>49592805
And thank fucking god it did. It boggles my mind that someone on Cover thought it would be a good idea so it's great so see people outside of this hellhole being critical of that absolutely insane decision.

>>49592872
KEK! too pussy to take a banter

>>49592185
I dont understand why cover actively tries to ruin their growth and success.

>>49592897
Oboretai's post, don't open

>>49592660
Why not release it now? You prefer to wait until something goes really wrong and then they release it to a wave of 'this doesn't help anything'? There's been small frictions building up for a while now and the holo girls actually give a fuck about their fan communities so they've been working with management to put out these guidelines to hopefully make the environment more enjoyable for more people and to more easily deal with extraordinary dissent.

i just found out akane is graduating but also siska from nijiID? who else did i miss today?

>>49592805
Even homo supporters knew they didn't have enough fans to support homo2.

>>49592848
Lol

>>49592897
kek
>checks history
>nijinsaji nijinsaji nijinsaji nijinsaji nijinsaji
>as a hololive clipper i advise you..

>>49592995
>siska
Her graduation has been announced last month though

>>49592897
Heh, considering I've been watching this today...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuf_s_ZBUKk

>>49593005
It's homoboretai, he's sadly a "respected" figure among the EN cancer.

>>49590484
Any important announcement other than EN3 would have done the exact same thing, people are seriously fed up with the 2 year delay between EN gens.

>>49592931
its seaschizo hours, anon, they wont go to sleep for another 3-4 hrs

>>49591414
Of course it wont affect CCV, but it will reduce their income from EN significantly

>>49593005
>not knowing oboretai, homobeggar prime who shitposts in /#/ to defend homo collabing whores

>>49592911
That person is dead, but none of that anon's concern.
House analogy is wrong though. That anon will see the body when he goes. But that anon will never see those posts.

>>49593064
Kiara alone can carry holoEN

Jun 90K Doryaaaaa

>>49593055
It seems theyre planning a mixgen as EN3
Ive been packing my fandom luggage incase the time to move out is nigh

>>49593041
>respected
Since fucking when ? Even in Plebbit they ran his ass out, he has been identified has a homobeggar since day 1.

This kind of shit, the graphic design, the statement, translation etc. all has to go through and be approved by higher ups. This was a long time in the making. There is no way they did this after the Fauna thing. You really think they’d work that fast? A Japanese company?

There’s so much shit this could apply to, and a lot of it would be related to Japanese fans and how they conduct their “oshikatsu” (especially all those burner accounts where they nag and nag their oshis if they do something they don’t like).
This thread talks about homos day in day out, you have dicks on your brain 24/7 and you’re reading into things that aren’t there. Take your meds.

>>49593093
nah, that's Fauna

>>49592848
They think a minority of vocal fans won't like it and don't want them spoiling the experience for everyone else. This is a
>sit down and shut up
warning to unicorns

Subaru has really been running hot as fuck these last days.

>>49593064
As long as they have Bae to carry them they'll be fine.

>>49593131
from all we know, they could've started last year when Rushia's fall started.

>>49593077
No the police already moved the body, but the crime scene is still tapped, the anon knew something happened around his house (hidden posts) but couldn't care less.

>part-C just as Azu-chan started her stream
THE PEKOAZU FUNNEL IS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!

>>49592731
It said "friends" in quotations and then reemphasized that there is a boundary. It's a roundabout way of saying we aren't real friends but the relationship is kinda similar, which is in line with Fauna's point

Not a lot of 10k stream today.

>>49593131
You can use this cope for the Kronii management tweet too.

>>49593141
>warning to unicorns
Nah. It's either about the Bettel thing, or nips are autistic and believe some ENs when they claim harassment over some faggots disagreeing with them and think there's a big harassment problem.

>>49593141
>sit down and shut up
>warning to unicorns
the most vocal and annoying fanbase are the homobeggars

>>49593131
>this was a long time in the making
roru

>>49593212
Something big is about to happen. I can feel it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RlK_DW7uOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUa0kZvEpwI
The unicorn queen and her designated hag have started
Watch.

>>49592848
> If they really think it is stupid and the fans wouldn't like it, why would they greenlight it in the first place?
Stupidity.
If woke movies will be hated by everyone and lose money why even make it? Disney begs to differ.

>>49593199
everyone knows that shit. what pissed people off is the "real talk", like bitch we dont care. even more that the lecture was triggered by a mere $10 shitstirrer

>>49593199
>>49592731
Nah, it's because whoever translated that is an anti. The elevens used "nakama".

I don't understand Godfield

>>49592105
Luxiem died after a Yo mama joke

>>49592734
Only homobeggars who don’t watch streams to begin with. Actual stream watchers were upset at how fast they dropped.

>>49593281
Yep! "Nakama" is more of a "Companion" or "on the same side" than "friends"

>>49593224
>No graphics
>No post on the website
>No translation
>Only posted on the EN Twitter account
Yeah totally the same.

>>49592872
Anon proudly annouces he is a faggot.

>>49592177
Mr Beast was monetizing disabled people!!!!

>PER STREAMER
>5x: IRyS
>3x: Fauna
>1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia, Mori, Vox, Kiara, Finana
Since when was Irys the #1 EN?

>>49593313
big number > small number

>>49593344
I blame wan piss.

>>49593093
and other hilarious jokes to tell yourself

>>49592177
either you do it out of sincerity or for your next youtube video

>>49593344
Also "Friends" is "Tomodachi"

>>49593396
Kiara is the heart and soul of hololive

>>49593131
This shit doesn't take more than 5 business days to put together, especially if you prepare much of this before getting it through the review process.

>>49593379
Since Gura stopped streaming. She was the No.2 since the redesign.

>>49593261
map art for Kanaken top left space is pending haachama's life signs