/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

come watch this 2view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIb0Wf-qkzg
she's trying her best!

>>49548201
A wholesome # OP?! impossible!

>>49548201
Don't doxx Pekora.

>>49548237
Whomst

>>49548237
She's decent, good flow, good voice, good rigging

But i have 55 memberships... 54 soon
anyway, no time for her, shill her somewhere else.

any rrats about who is in the new idol wave?

>>49548320
EN3 is tempus

Reminder who's behind the anti Fauna posts and threads

We love bunnies here

>>49547243
Looks like everything got re-added them
...
when did she join Hololive?
Might have been that everything generated under INKK got deleted?

>>49548391
Then they're failures.

>>49548386
Don't care, feel sorry for anyone that got suckered in and hope they have a backup plan for when the money dries up

>>49548415
kek fuck those fags

>>49548386
You guys remember how everyone thought Bae was going to be a loli?

>Two threads
>Neither with Pekora OP
>The same amount of replies
>Twice the IPs in this one

>>49548237
>already an hour into the game
Shill her earlier next time

>>49548601
>Neither with Pekora OP
Last thread was Peko OP

>>49548601
>>Neither with Pekora OP
That was last thread, retard.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>49,970: Pekora (Hololive)
>45,979: Subaru (Hololive)
>30,400: Suisei (Hololive)
>28,410: Towa (Hololive)
>26,305: Chiroru (Indie)
>20,279: Suisei (Hololive)
>19,621: Rena (Nijisanji)
>17,444: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,784: Patra (774 inc)
>15,804: Polka (Hololive)
>15,655: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,792: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14,737: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,653: Noah (VSPO)
>11,835: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,615: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,470: Luna (Hololive)

>>49548700
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut
13) Mel (Hololive) - 58,589 - 5th Anniversary 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,892 - Minecraft 1.20
15) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,757 - Marshmallow Reading + Announcement
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,970 - Chat GPT

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
4x: Pekora
3x: Marine
1x: Hibari, Koyori, Mel, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
23x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
39x: Pekora
13x: Marine, Miko
6x: Toya
5x: Subaru
4x: Hal
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

Is Pekora reclining?

FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>5/16 DAILY TALLY
6,991: Finana (Nijisanji)
6,481: Elira (Nijisanji)
6,347: Pomu (Nijisanji)
5,191: Mori (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)
13) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,884 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,114 - Pikuniku (w/ Gura)
15) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,493 - CHADcast
16) Finana (Nijisanji) - 6,991 - Unarchived Karaoke (w/ Pomu & Elira)

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: IRyS
3x: Fauna
1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia, Mori, Vox, Kiara, Finana

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
31p: IRyS
21p: Fauna
15p: Mumei
13p: Mori, Ina
6p: Amelia, Kiara
5p: Luca, Gura, Baelz, Vox, Finana
4p: Shu
3p: Elira
1p: Ike, Pomu

>>49548739
is hololive going to seal out the month tommorow?

>>49548415
mommy im melting down uuuuuuuuu

>>49548794
lazulight sweep

>>49548794
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
97x: Hololive
37x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
14x: IRyS
13x: Mori
12x: Fauna
10x: Gura
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Ina, Amelia, Vox
7x: Kronii
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca, Finana
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
133p: Fauna
108p: IRyS
96p: Mori, Ina
93p: Mumei
84p: Baelz
69p: Vox
61p: Amelia
54p: Kiara
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
22p: Shu
17p: Pomu
13p: Finana
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny, Ike
10p: Elira
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>49548700

>>49548794
Why are Mori and Bae so worthless

>>49548933
>Tempiss collaborators

>>49548982
How does this image work, how can you see pantsu while she's still wearing bunny suit

>>49549089
she's not using it right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99f-cZuSLbM
Still making videos on it, probably from the same stream though.

>>49549089
wore her pantsu like batman

>>49548374
>But i have 55 memberships... 54 soon
who?

>>49549246
>>49535818
Surprised there were like 2-3 other people here who were membered.

Fauna is an abhorrent person. Actually fucking disgusting excuse of a human being. Absolutely fucking manipulative from the top down. Spends an entire year pretending she cares about her fans to the level that even when she clearly showed that she gave not a single fuck about them (The Japan trip, where she ghosted her fans for over a week, for example) people defended her and welcomed her back with open arms. After all the money they spent on her, where she decides to just take a vacation instead of reinvesting that money into a new PC that she's been saying she's going to get for over a year, or making more music, or releasing ANYTHING. After all the time people spent watching her garbage content, THAT is when she decides she's going to be a total cunt and take a massive shit on her fanbase.

That isn't even all though, no, because after telling them she doesn't care to show them her true self and she doesn't see them as friends, what does she do immediately after? Maid roleplay ASMR. Because what better way to set your "boundaries" by calling your fans "Master" and pretend she's your servant and that she cares about them soooooo much. And then of course, an unarchived karaoke where 90% of them were love songs "on request" and then have the audacity to go "don't forget about me" and "I'll miss you" and all that lying garbage. Completely manipulating people into trying to do the exact same thing she told them to fuck off about. If she really cared about setting that boundary that she had to answer that question so shitty and adamantly she should put her money where her fucking mouth is and either turn off her SCs and just be an entertainer, or apologize like a normal person would for being such an abominable cunt.

She is as much of a farce as her song is.

Kris is melting down, what did you guys do?

>>49549438
just read until
>Fauna
I miss her...

>>49549198
It is from the same stream. He said during his Street Fighter marathon that he probably won't be streaming anymore Idol Showdown but he thinks it's a solid free-to-play fighting game

>>49549438

>>49549438
You make her sound so hot.

>>49549438
Whoa

>>49549438
Based.

What did he mean by this?

>>49549438
>reddit spacing

>>49549500
Do I really want to know what that faggot is doing?

>49549438
Yeah I can copy paste too faggot

>>49549500
What now

>>49549438

>>49548417

>>49549438
10/10 projection

>>49549438
Ughhh, what an evil bitch!

>>49549388
oh... I thought you were dropping a chuuba, not being dropped by one.

>>49549601
too much of the reddit kool aid

>>49548739
Do we have to retire the tally if Nijisanji loses every month in 2023?

>>49549438
you tell em faunaschizo

>>49549601
He's either a dedicated shitposter and gave up trying to use the facade of a coverdrone or has dementia on an advanced stage.

>>49549438

>>49549601
He's saying the people who hate homos also hate idol shit.
I think he's just been making up new enemies, the usual homo hater responded asking what the fuck he's even talking about.

let's talk about ID, their numbers are way worse than tempiss

>>49549601
What is this dude on?

>>49549601
He's probably trying to weave a narrative of some sort

>>49549817
Which stream is this from? I wish to know what she was responding to.

>>49549861
You can't just say shit that people know is factually incorrect.

>>49549861
Are they?

>>49549601
>>49549904
Say what you will about the ESL levels here, at least I can grasp the underlying meaning behind their attempts

>>49549861
no they are not

>>49549927
Friend!

It's been 15 weeks since Specter was released and 83 weeks since Still Still Stellar was released.

On Billboard's Top Albums Sales Specter is back having fallen off couple of weeks ago on shared 99th position which is the first time I've noticed a shared position on Billboard. Mere 655 albums sold was enough to secure 50th place this week. It has charted for 12 weeks. Still Still Stellar has charted for 32 weeks on Top Albums Sales, having fallen off again a couple of months ago after a brief boost by the release of Specter got it charting again.

On Digital Album Downloads it has risen to 74th having been 75th the previous week and has charted for all 15 weeks. In fact it looks like the release of Holo*27 gave both Specter and Still Still Stellar a boost, although Still Still Stellar fell off immediately after having charted for 68 weeks total.

On Hot Albums chart it is also back at 87th. It has charted for 13 weeks. Still Still Stellar fell off in March having charted for 38 weeks total.

>>49549774
No.
They might draw with Indie+NP+VSPO by the end of the year though.

And I'm still waiting to see an Isegye girl up there again.

>>49549601
This is apparently what set him off

>>49549438
UUUUUUUUUU

>>49549861
Ogey beggar-kun

>>49549919
outfit reveal I think

>>49549861
Niji ID yeah

>>49549438
Thank you for reminding me that Fauna is God's greatest gift to holoEN

>>49550068
Wasn't that a shitpost from the catalogue? Or just someone reposting?

>>49550147
If you want a streamer with an avatar then there's a whole other company that can provide that for you. Fauna is trash because she's just another streamer with an avatar except she's not entertaining and she may as well be a virtual prostitute

I liked it more when this thread had feet.

>>49550068
>phan hoi
What language is this?

>>49548201
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>49550195
Mommy is the best, I love mommy

>>49550068
So he thinks this is the kind of person who hates Tempus? This isn't your average, everyday retardation, it's advanced retardation.

So, how should kay yu introduce multiplayer in holocure? the only thing we know about is ikki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx46zgU6qRI

>>49550195

>>49550290
I guess he's not here kek, no one would be dumb enough to make that mistake

>兎田ぺこらさんの名前は「うさだぺこら」ではなく、「とだぺこら」(読み方 : トダペコラ) となります。

>>49550068
the retard fell for the catalog shitpost copypasta...

>>49550195

>>49550068
I actually understand the perspective of that commenter though. Normalfag things attract normalfag people attract viewers. But the idol aspect is ingrained too much into Hololive for them to move away from, it's what their core fans want even on the EN side. Lose them and once people get bored of the "gaming" aspect, and they will, then there's nothing left.

GUYS
https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1657029522292613122

>>49550195
Ok I will watch someone else, not like i watched many of her streams as of late. do you have someone in mind?

>>49550384
It’s more that no one in HoloEN could sustain a long-term audience just through games. None of them have the skill set for it.

kek wtf
>>49550261
no wonder the shipping was high, aside of the bug, that shit is big

>>49550416
AAAAAA IM GONNA COOOOM!

You know i'm wondering once the Tempus boys get their first outfits announced i wonder are the OG Tempus boys going to be the ones to get them or al 8 of the going to get them and they do a massive 8 person new outfits reveal relay event

>>49550522
Fauna seems to be doing fine with all he solo gaming streams, not even considering her MC ones. Just look at Dredge

>>49550522
Eeeeh I wouldn't say that. A lot of streamers that "made it" are shit at games. You don't have to be some pro gamer for attention. Hell, speedrunners and prop players get fuckall for views most of the time.

Is the Kromei shill stream gonna take Cripple gold today? The only real competition for it is IRyS I guess?

>>49550416
Congrats on Inochi getting 1M, Azki-chan!

>>49550652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkzwictiko
Birthday buff

>>49549601
>>49550068
>Fell to the bait
>Couldn't even logic
Lads, I present to you, Tempiss and Tempoop's representative.

>>49550756
>at fucking midnight
?

>>49550331
Weird how she didn't use GPT-4. Probably not worth it since it's only one stream, but still.

when did cover and anykara sign that legal paper together to go after defamation?

>>49550968
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1599675243014291463

Korone's Mario Paint stream is cute noise kino, good EOP content

Her anniversary is one week from now
>PREDICTIONS?
Will she recapture the magic for one more stream and reach 100k again?

>>49551220
pekora and korone as guests

>>49550892
She tried at the end but that GPT-4 was really slow. Also she's planning to something with AI again.

>>49548201
>>49548232
>>49548700
>>49548739
>>49549304
>>49549855
>>49549927
Cute!
>>49548936
>>49548982
>>49549032
>>49549085
>>49549127
>>49549193
>>49549411
>>49549478
>>49549539
>>49549585
Sexy!

>>49551265
>Pekora
>Sexy

Tuesdays

Pekora misses Rushia
https://youtu.be/mlLvC_JbjIU
https://youtu.be/fDroKVTKnuY
https://youtu.be/dVEpBGGInys

Thoughts?
https://twitter.com/NamelessThree/status/1657842208161288193

>>49551389
Everyday is Tuesday this week...

>>49551389
Today is Sunday.

>>49551002
>right after the anti rabbit hole algo was rolled out
i knew it
youtube plants at anykara made sure they have a a grip on covers legal team to avoid getting sued

Since Miko will be MIA for the foreseeable future, expect less shitposting since 35pinoys will all be on suicide watch.

>>49551504
Imagine if Lulu, Meiro or Yugo did this. What the fuck is Zaion thinking? I mean sure you can say whatever you want and everyone else is enjoying niji's yab but you are pretty much unhirable at this point.

Rosemi is a whore ever since that stream when she decided to lower herself by subjecting to disgusting dykes, she brought Luca's yab onto herself and I'm surprised that two faced harlot hasn't reclined harder, but time will tell if she will lust for flipcock at the upcoming NTR dating stream.
that is when she will be no different from the rest of Luxiem's cocksleeves and take her mask off, showing her true disdain for butacucks

>>49551707
>but you are pretty much unhirable at this point.
She doesn't want to be hired anywhere.

>>49551760
She is still young.

>>49548386
Did they really go "Fuck it, let's go FULL IN on the loli route!"? I can respect that

>>49551707
Perfect for Mythic.

>>49551749
Sucks to be you because I already moved on to watch Enna. Enna is basically yab-proof at this point.

>>49551220
All I know is May is not a competitive month.

>>49551749

>>49551835
>young.

Elon 43k

>>49551947
what channel did they steal this time?

>>49548494
Ghost Gura is still the best EN vtuber

>>49548201
even the AI is a pekomiko chad

>>49551265
Based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEiUuX4qidM
This is unironically a god tier idea for a stream. WHy can't HooloEN come up with this stuff?

>>49548201
I pray for the day pekora can reconcile with miko and talk like friends again.... those halcyon days... they will return one day... it will be so glorious....

>>49551986
>>49552103
kys jew

>>49552103
Fuck off

by the way this old pekomiko clip be doing numbers.

People still want pekomiko....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndBAHwUAW3g&ab_channel=%E3%81%BA%E3%81%93%E3%82%89%E3%81%AE%E6%97%A5%E5%B8%B8%E3%80%90%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96%E3%80%91

>>49552103
>Open random timestamp
>Desperate and needy petplay ERP
Hot

So when is Roa ever coming back https://www.youtube.com/@YuzukiRoa/videos honestly if she does come back and her return stream isn't at least a 100k+ level stream then i'm going to be disappointed

>>49552292
Whenever Anykara lets her out of the shed

Predictions for the number of likes on the Cover tweet announcing Miko's covid death?

>>49552258
>fans miss pekomiko
>pekora misses rushia
what, now kanata will be talking about something she did with coco long ago?

>Virgin HoloEN fan gets cucked with "I'm NOT your fucking friend" speeches
>Chad IdolEN fan gets virtual girlfriend roleplay delivered hot without complaint

>>49552292
Around the same time Gundo streams again

>>49552292
more than 1/2 the viewers left from Nijisanji don't even know who she was.

Hell, her business girlfriend Gundou isn't even in the company anymore.

if you have to shitpost with the jews at least use the one with the good subgrowth, this womb tattoo'd shitter ain't worth shit

Welp this quite the announcement by Google https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/

dead thread

>>49552445
Did Gundou finally get fired or is she still in suspension limbo?

>>49551749
rosemi has a sponsored stream at the same time as luca's so she wont be there, along with nina and pomu

>>49552473
>including content within Google Workspace (Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet, Calendar), YouTube and Google Photos.
>Youtube
Awwwwwwwwwww shit, all these old 2hu videos

>>49552493
I'm too busy rewatching Fauna streams

>>49552258
Everyone wants pekomiko back anon too bad it'll never happen

PekoMiko will never happen because Miko is going to die soon due to her frail body being unable to fight off Covid.

>>49552366
With a side dish of animal abuse.

>>49551707
She was already unhireable after Blackcolor put list of crimes in her termination announcement. She has nothing to lose now by fighting back.

>>49552617
our combined hopium will change reality!

>>49552544
I dunno, are many of those accounts fully abandoned? I was a mildly consequential NND reuploader a decade ago and got the YouTube part of that account permabanned for music violations, but I still use the Gmail part as signup fodder.

>another niji graduation
1% at it again lmao

WOAH, Ollie and Kobo sounds like THIS!?
https://youtu.be/oIzQmoz1bE4?t=150

>>49552447
Wait, i got something for that.

So people at least know who you mean

>>49553072
She has a womb tattoo?

>>49552258
Too bad you can't unrape someone.

>>49553072
Is the shorts exploit still working?

>>49553005
Since it's Akane, she definitely wasn't in this for the money.
She was in it for the music though so, her leaving after Nornis just started gaining traction is the weirdest part.
If she left in 2022, after 2 years of poring in so much of her own money with almost no support from the company and Melissa leaving as well, that would have been something else.
She has what, 50 songs on her own channel released? Even slowed down since Nornis started.

>>49553242
But the rapee can learn to like the rape making it no longer a rape

>>49552511
Still in suspension limbo so it's starting to feel like a stealth termination at this point.

>>49551504
I bet niji chip off 1% of the play button and send it to the talents.

>>49553289
Money is still important. You can't pay rent with 1% from music sales

>>49553062
Why cover such a horrible song

Maybe Akane tried to negotiate partial ownership of the songs she made but was disappointed, like Melissa back then

I genuinely fucking hate EN management.

>>49553289
>she definitely wasn't in this for the money.
>She was in it for the music though
The Nornis live concert might have been the last straw, no?
If that’s what Anycolor has planned for the future of the biggest investment they made in terms of a female music unit she would be utterly disheartened.

Her departure reminds me of Patra leaving 774 for a similar reason, except 774 Inc. got on their hands and knees trying to demove her from that decision.
Nornis was Anycolor gamble on entering the mainstream for music without the association with the “vtuber” side of their business. Turns out they can’t really half ass that

>>49553142
No, that's
But Rin has the bigger sub growth that anon wanted.

>last in total views
>last in views growth
>last in sub growth
>will be passed by mumei in total subs
What went wrong with Kronii?

>>49553566
It seems like a pretty sudden decision, that maybe was pondered for a long time, so, there definitely was a "final straw" and it might have been that.
Hard to speculate and maybe best not to at this point.

New holonews issue
https://twitter.com/HoloNewsEN/status/1658511033655259136

>>49551265
Based

>>49552366
I guess I merely hallucinated her having a BF yab then.

>>49553674
Could also just be she let her contract run out and been wanting to go for some time.

>>49553710
Anyone ever notice he always makes the pics for the homo songs the biggest?

>>49553710
>HoloNewsEN
>homos in it
Yeah nah. I will just get my news from Asakoyo.

>>49553661
Tempus and "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" so people don't give a fuck about her somgs

>>49553661
seriously did she just throw in the towel after one male yab? you can say what you want about mori but at least she's trying her hardest to crawl her way back into the box.

What did Cover mean by this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjBhChMPm8

>>49553777
Most people said Anycolor used to have 2 year contracts back then so, August 2022 is when she would have extended it.

>>49553661
The unbeatable combination of #AmeWay and #MoriWay

>>49553782
why are they like this

>>49553674
>best not to at this point.
Quite the opposite, talking about sensible reasons that might have motivated her decision is a whole lot more intelligent than letting wild rrats to fester

Her departure is a second heavy blow on Niji musical aspirations, for the girls at least, right at the wake of Rain Drops disbanding.
Could be “trouble in paradise”, given the overture Nijisanji was attempting in that area.
I say they HEAVILY miscalculated Chronoir success (and Hololive success in the idol front) and attributed it to a potential market they were leaving unchallenged instead of just Kuzuha and Kanae being popular by their own right.
It might have been Nijisanji “reverse Tempus”, putting chips on a losing bet instead of focusing on their main strength

>>49553840
>Trying her hardest
>Two squad collabs back to back

>>49553777
>she let her contract run out
Nornis was formed not even one year ago. There is no way she would join it if leaving was remotely in her plans 11 months ago

>>49553710
The audacity to make the 3views the biggest

Neither Cover nor Haachama has communicated how she is doing or where is she
If it was Gura or Ina you would have been running around shitposting and doomsdaying or demanding answers

>>49553848
It's a Sana reference.

>>49553916
have you seen vesper and magni numbers recently they need all the female collabs they can get

>>49554005
You’re trying to seed this for a while. Give up, it’s not going to take root.
This is not the first Haachama long hiatus, I think it’s not even her longest yet

>>49553909
What I think Nijisanji is lacking now is actually projects. I mean the real kind of projects instead of some shitty Valorant Custom or Salome and Sasaki's whatever project. They need to hire some behind the scene organizer. Some anon talked about making VTA into some reality show for the new talents. It is definitely an interesting idea that could work but you need a producer behind the entire thing. There are just too many talents in Nijisanji that they cannot rely on the talents themselves to initiate the projects.

>>49554005
We all know she is trying to graduate.

>>49554005
anon why do you think as massive new studio was built in the middle of fucking nowhere.

>>49553661
I'm starting to think Kronii is worse than Mori.

>>49553566
I'm out of the loop here, did something bad happened with their live?

>>49554108
Their plan is to make more shows for their main channel.

>>49553909
>they half assed it
Hmm, 1 thing they definitely didn't do is have daily vocal and dance trainings, if they wanted to push that hard on the idol route.
I don't just say that because their performers are clearly not at Holo's level, but because Kuzuha and Kanae talk about the periods when they have to do idol reps, and it was just a fcouple months per year before the concerts.

You guys never learn do you?

>>49554050
Female collab don't even do shit for them.

>>49554108
> What I think Nijisanji is lacking now is actually projects (…) They need to hire some behind the scene organizer
The answer to that is obviously
>MISS ME YET?

But really, I mentioned this when it was announced last year, the big blow his departure would be and not even because of his numbers but because of his leadership role.

>>49553661
>IRyS ticked twice in a week
EN3 SOON

>>49554189
They already did that in 2022 and it became a cluttered wasteland,
where only the huge streams got views and everything else died off in 2-3 days, flooded by the other content.

>>49553661
"unfortunately idol culture is a thing" killed her channel growth for good

>>49554270
She should join more late night Hag collabs like Among Us.

>>49554229
I think a big issue is that if an event is successful, Anycolor wants to take it over and make it theirs (and potentially paywall it like Rindou's project). Probably why Chinman isn't as gunho about organizing events.

Maybe we're starting to see Riku's strategy backfire. He oversaturated the market, didn't reinvest profits back into the company, treated the talents like shit, surely it couldn't go on forever.

I'm primarily a holofag but I was introduced to vtubing through NijiJP (even as a retarded EOP), I mostly stuck to the singers/people who regularly released music and shit so all of this is actually depressing to me. I can only hope Akane goes the way of Melissa and succeeds even outside of Nijisanji.

>>49552258
>people
I wouldn't call those things people though

>>49554186
>did something bad happened with their live?
Both their live and Kanae live were amateur hour through and through, an overall downgrade to even their 2021 standards.

>>49554362
uuuu

>>49554005
There's no lack of doomposting about haachama, but there are no news, so there's nothing to talk about. Whatever it is, it seems really grim. Even chuubas who were known to talk with her often like Hoshikawa or Kanata say they can't get in touch with her, and the last news we've had of her was that date with Hoshikawa where she broke down crying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_vDFEd_uwQ

>>49554005
you might want to check the catalog, there's like 3 posts daily.

>hates the holo fanbase
why hasnt she graduated like melissa or akane?

>>49554453
It could be that her parents are forcing her to graduate and get a suicide-inducing normalfag job.

>>49553909
At this point is there even a future for the musically inclined members in Nijisanji?

>>49554412
Sankisei live bad?

>>49554518
No, there were hints that it's health related.

>>49554229
Yeah I know someone will definitely bring Mayu out. His departure is definitely not good, but there can always be replacement. The ideal way to do it is to train some producers together with the VTAs. Give them a structure and timeframe while letting them decide the rest of the programs during the 3 years (1 year in real time) in VTA.

>49554506
>actually discussing numbers and strategies
>mostly ignoring low quality baiters
What's happening? This feels like EU hours from 3-4 months ago, this isn't normal.

>>49554536
Are there seriously NO healthy people in Japan?

>>49554595
>40 million people packed in 2200km2
Only those that live in the countryside to 120 years old.

>>49554578
We won the battle.

>>49554526
>Sankisei live bad?
kek, let’s not get crazy! Sankisei was technically well executed tho, the problem was the concept and production in itself.
Nornis seems to have been the opposite: good concept, poor preparation, bad execution.
Kanae’s has technical problems too that prevented online ticket holders from watching it in its entirety while it happened, and even the part that was possible to watch had audio problems (not present in the venue, indicating it to be a technical issue on the streaming side).
It’s the type of thing you would expect in 2020 but not in 2023 given the level of professionalism and technical advances both companies went through in these 3 to 4 years.

>>49554306
Their director said in their latest interview that pumping out more shows is their plan.

>>49554676
based numbers rabbit giving people what they want

>49554676
speaking of the bait, this nijifag started with one

>>49554676
Fauna in shambles.

I find it weird, why Anykara just letting Zaion say whatever she wants? Why they don't stop her?

>>49554546
>but there can always be replacement
It can’t, that was my point last year too! How do you even replace someone that was
>a veteran in the company
>respected by his colleagues
>LOVED by his peers
>passionate about his trade
>doing it FOR FREE
Actually that last part is an understatement: he was funding some tournaments out of his pocket.

It’s possible to fill the role but never without a major decline in quality, because that’s part of the
>you can’t buy what’s given for free
thing, you can’t really compel this type of things even if you throw money at it

>>49554578
With Fauna and Ina gone, there are no EN streams at this hour to shitpost about.

Also, I'm genuinely upset about Akane leaving, knowing how hard she's worked and how good she is.
It might not seem like it to many people, because of her numbers and few collabs the last few months, but depending on her reason given behind the scenes, this could signal to other members that Nijisanji really cannot deliver on anything big.
That it's not a company you want to stay in if you have aspirations, even on the idol and music side they've been pushing.

>>49554818
They have no power.

>>49554847
I have a friend who followed a few NijJP but after Raindrops, Melissa, and this they're like bordering on anti. I think if Chima goes they might actually go nuclear.

>>49554847
>>49554859
Was this is?
The 2 combo final yab for Anykara?

>>49554108
People who can make interesting projects that viewers will love are streamers. If someone could just randomly plan and do interesting stuff they would be content creators and not idea guy.
>>49554229
This guy is right. Nijisanji neglecting their livers is biting them in the ass.

>>49554847
>but depending on her reason given behind the scenes, this could signal to other members that Nijisanji really cannot deliver on anything big.
Wasn’t it Gundou herself that signaled
>graduation among us
last year?
I’m calling Gundou the “canary in the mine” for a while too and in the off chance she gets canned, the message from management will be clear
>we just debuted 15 livers in 2023 alone and, through VTA, we can debut another 15 before you can say “A”
>be happy or be gone

>>49554847
or it could be personal you know?
cause we really don't know why she's leaving.

>>49554754
Poor soul. I wanted to rub it in but decided against it to not ruin a good thread.

>>49554847
I didn't realize Akane has that many fans here. Selejo for the most part is a forgotten gen overshadowed by Edengumi.

>>49554702
What the hell happened for them to allow this to happen with one of their biggest livers?

>>49554818
Anon lawsuits are more complicated than that.

>>49555019
Think about it, about the people from the old Niji guard that graduated recently and on their own accord.
Warabeda was more absent than present, she was the exception, but then you had
>Melissa
>Mayuzumi
and now Akane, with the former two graduating due to a misalignment between their goals and the shift in priority by the company.
Given the role Akane herself wants, it’s not far fetched to assume her reasons are similar

>>49554702
>technically well executed
that ship + beach and palm forest live in my head like a FF8 background

>>49554929
>People who can make interesting projects that viewers will love are streamers. If someone could just randomly plan and do interesting stuff they would be content creators and not idea guy.
If that is the case then it is easy to solve too.
>Give VTA members base salaries
>Let them collab among themselves
>Have few slots for events that are submitted by them
>Let people vote on their favorite events right before the graduation
This will encourage creativity and train the new comers on making good skits for streams.

>>49554999
It was Ryuushen, Gundo is the one with the "i don't want to be an idol and they're not forcing us to be yet either".

Isn't the replacement the problem itself?
They've been living off of their top performers for years and trained them to be more than just streamers, hosts, singers, dancers, entertainers and, for the most part, their VTA just trains streamers.

Saying that, i am reminded of how competent the Ranuncoulous and Voltaction kids were at singing and dancing in their 3D.
Maybe they're doing the Myth thing of bringing in talented people and training them to be streamers, in front of a crowd, but it hasn't come across yet because they're still so raw, with few moments to shine.

>>49554702
That webm of Rushia "dancing" lives rent free in my head. I think that was when she was going through her menhera episodes with the alien and late to dance rehearsals too.

>>49555151
FFVIII has very intricate and pretty prerendered backgrounds.

>>49555233
i should have specified, battle background

>>49555169
They did say VTA was success for them so they may move in similar direction.

>>49555070
Not him, and I wouldn't call myself a "fan" since I didn't watch her streams, but I really did enjoy her music. It was the same with Chima I still stand by the fact that she has the best Phony, numbers be damned.. I was happy when Nornis happened because I thought they'd finally get the support they'd want but we can see how that turned out.

>>49555221
Cat died during that time too.

>>49555332
You cannot live with music alone. You need other contents. Chima might be extremely good (debatable) in singing but she doesn't have a commanding personality like Suisei or memorable giggles like someone else. She is basically in the same position as IRyS but even IRyS has her yabaIRyS trope.

I miss green lamy

>>49555087
I unironically believe (with no concrete evidence except what was provided to me in my dreams) that the following sequence of events happened

1) a long queue for sololives existed for Nijis, in part due to the pandemics, in part due to that COVID outbreak in their 3D studio that ground everything through a halt.
Among those in the queue the recently 1M subbed golden boy (Kanae) and the next 1M subbed girl of their company id nothing funny happens (HSKW).
Given that in Nijisanji “seniority” is based on sub count and not on debut date, these two would be in front of the queue
2) with the end of the pandemics and the smash hit success of Luxiem, management planned a big event for them, giving them their 3D ASAP and a big concert
3) When plans for it were disclosed livers FUCKING RIOTED on both sides of the kaigai divide: nip livers LIVID that Luxiem would get their live before them and EN ones furious that they would get their 3D before the girls.

To solve that management decided first to include all of the EN ones in the concert and rush their 3D but that didn’t solve the local problem, to which they rushed HSKW, Kanae, Toya and Nornis lives (with the former three being announced in close succession right after the EN concert was cancelled).
Again, there is no factual basis for any of this but all of the pieces fit so well it gotta count for something, at least for some entertainment

>>49555332
You're not alone. Korone thinks so too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5BmKYyRvq0

>>49555522
Luxiem were angry about the "COVID" excuse and I always think it is the logistic issue. I never though studio time would be an issue for niji too lmao

>>49555470
you are not alone, it is just not the same

>>49555169
Probably, but has Anycolor given any indication they plan on...*reads again* emulating Hololive at more than a superficial "muh idols" level? Because those all sound like expenses towards long-term investments and support structures, but it seems like everything Anycolor's done since the start of this year is find more ways to cut costs.

Damn my feeds are filled with Pekora's chat GPT clips and CHADcast clips. Guess these are the ones that has mindshare in hololive right now.

>>49555601
>I never though studio time would be an issue for niji too lmao
That COVID outbreak early in 2022 fucked them good, because it delayed several scheduled 3D debuts and also their “idol concert”.
Now thing about it: between Salome, Ranunculus, Voltaction and the 2023 crowd alone for the JP side and Noctyx iLUNA and XSoleil they would have more 3D debuts than the entirety of HoloJP.
It’s a miracle Hana Macchia got hers, might end up being the only (ex)ID to get one before they can them for good

thread tldr;
Nijisanji is stinky

Do you think VSPO or Anykara will rent Cover studio?

>>49554702
>technically well executed
No.
I don’t think we’ll ever see a shitshow on the level of Fan Fun Island from either of the Big 2 again.

>>49555879
hopefully not, that doesn't benefit the girls or holochads

>>49553909
To be fair, Rain Drops has been dead for a while since they'd lost a member to graduation for a while, so the announcement of it being put into the grave was disappointing for people who might have wanted to see them carry on without or replace him, but not unexpected.

>>49555879
If they can afford it and find a day in the schedule, they should.

>>49555879
If they do I better never see a delayed birthday live again. Bad enough homos waste time already

>>49555879
Only if amE can do a 3D collab with Fauna and asagi mama

>>49555991
Yeah, I don't know why they waited a full fucking year to announce it.

>>49555522
It might make sense, how you are laying it out, but we do not know for sure. But how would you explain Lazulight 3D?

Weirdly slow day on Twitch as well, for NA evening hours.
Even ShizuRin got in the top.

Ok with the information from CHADcast it seems like Bae is definitely raised in Aussie and her parents never made her study Chinese, as in study it as a subject. Talking in Chinese sure but she seems like unable to read or write Chinese. This is the same issue with Enna but in her case she seems to have a stronger family bond with her parents' (despite them being divorced) extended families so she has more chance to get in touch of the culture of her ancestor. Mostly I think that the immigrant families are abandoning the traditional values of their ancestors but this is kinda expected. Usually by 3rd or 4th generation they are already fully assimilated.

>>49555879
Nijis would cry tears of blood

>>49556132
ogey

>>49556132
I asked
I care

>>49556132
Brrruah, I ain't reading all that.

>>49556132

>>49555522
Kek, it's always Luxiem. Brings nothing but trouble for Nijisanji livers (not the company though, Riku loves those smelly yuan) and vtubing in general because of fujobaiting.

>>49555522
You'd think Anycolor at this point knows that they could deal with this problem by slowing down the number of new debuts, but the retards end up making VTA and debut 20+ members in the span of a year and a half. Gotta increase the 98% profits, I guess.

Whats Moom talking about bros? Did Kronii forget she had a collab with her?

>>49554595
>Extremely closed-off country for hundred of years
>The gene pool is small
Japan needs more foreigners dick.

>>49556478
Does the new debuts add to their 3d live backlog problem? I thought Nijisanji did a "merit" system where you only got them after certain milestones.
And none of these new shitters they're shoveling into the fire by the bucketload are ever going to hit the requisite milestones.

Why is this so sexy, did I watch too much animes as a kid?
https://youtu.be/GsD4RtM5fuA?t=4065

>>49556084
>But how would you explain Lazulight 3D?
Like Hana Macchia, that was already done for a long time already

>>49555991
>Rain Drops has been dead for a while
>>49556056
>why they waited a full fucking year to announce it.
That’s the whole point of contention. They could EASILY have carried on short of one member, or to promote someone from the company to take over from Warabeda.
Instead they let the audience think the project survived, waited a whole year and canned it.

No wonder Ryushen (or was it Elu?) was doomposting about it on her RM

>>49556502
>fucked up sponsored collab with Kiara
>fucked up sponsored collab with Mumei
Kronii if you don't want to do this, the door is right next to you.

>>49556502
Mumei delays nearly every stream fuck are you blaming Kronii for?

>>49556502
To be fair, Mumei delays a stream (99% of the time because of something related to animal) all the time. we can't really be sure either way who has the urgent business.

>>49556478
Their method has always been to shotgun talents and hope they find a star. They got Lauren who is their biggest star so far iirc. Granted he's not VTA.
Somehow they managed to completely fuck up Salome, they just let her rot for months for whatever reason.

>>49556579
nta but Mumei is a gooder girl than Kronii

>>49556579
Well, Kiara's was also delayed so there's a predecent. Even tho is very likely is Animol fucking up shit.

>>49556579
Mooms been up and about for hours now. Don't try and deflect

>>49556579
I'm just gonna go ahead and blame management until we know more.

>>49556568
>>>fucked up sponsored collab with Kiara
...

>>49555601
The producer in that interview basically said it was a “scheduling” issue but never promised a “revenge” concert.

Miko will be out the rest of the month so no more golds for her.

>>49556657
>Their method has always been to shotgun talents and hope they find a star
Why though?
Because, from their multiple waves of JP debuts since the pandemic started, Leos was their only out the gate star, before he fizzled out, then came back as a 3D collab highlight again.
Lauren took a while to come into his own, so is Toru.
Their recent stars have either been Salome, the absolute antithesis of their shotgun model, and members that needed time to grow, also completely not benefiting from this mode.

Has the short lived Supernova of Luxiem blinded them that this shit still works? It's been 3 fucking years of it!

EN3 in 34 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8kIDvBlzo
>cute idiot....

Haven't read a thread in days.
Let me guess, grim grim grim homos homos en3 when
Did I sum it up?

>>49557044
Enna starting her stream in 32 minutes.

>>49557134
Surprisingly none of that since there were no EN streams yet.

>>49557134
Gura graduation soon

>>49557043
>Why though?
There is no downside. There is a pitiful fixed cost for every liver they pump out (including no salary and low cut on any proceeds made with their character).
If you could legally print one dollar bills for free wouldn't you?

What they're missing is the "churn" and the discontent this will generate, SPECIALLY in the old guard.
But very soon, if acceleration continues like this, there will be more VTA and post-iLUNA livers in Nijisanji than First Wave, Second wave and Seeds
(if that's not already the case)

The only equivalent for Holos to understand would be
>imagine if there were more HolostarsEN than HololiveEN
Oh, wait ...

>>49556132
Lotta words to say she's better than Enna (which everybody already knows).

>>49557044
You’re a few hours early

holy dead hours

>check out a new indie
>veibae voice
Why are there so many Veibae clones? Sure she is popular but even in twitch Ironmouse is bigger. But there are way more Veibaes out there . Like even Gura, the outlier star of the EN vtubing world only have a handful of Gura clones. There are probably 10 veibae clones on Twitch for every single Gura Clone out there. I dont understand it

>>49556657
>let her rot for months
One of the reasons for Salome's recline was her constant shilling. Also, her quirks of being ojousama quickly died.

>>49557134
Today it's more on
>GRIM Niji GRIM Niji
because of another graduation soon to be revealed

>>49556568
Kiara is the one that fucked up that collab.

>>49557264
you're average 20s/30s white chick is gonna have an easier time sounding like veibae then gura.

>>49557134
More like
>Nijiyab
>Schizoposting
>Nijiyab
>Schizoposting
Repeat that for one week.

Flygoner has the whole EN box to himself and is gettin 500 views

>>49557365
>kronies

Oh yeah, kept forgetting i had this in the other tab, for /news/ anon if he ever comes back
https://twitter.com/aniverse_brs/status/1658324829257494528

Nijisanji's Kaida and Shellin will be voice actors for some side characters in the anime "The King's Avatar: For the Glory" .
Pretty sure this was a Chinese production.

All EN stream during EN primetime
Holy fucking dead

>>49557365
kek, if that’s OC congrats on your talent

>>49557365
Kek, though replace the kronie with a hooman

>>49557507
Number is number. Also none of them is a 5view except for Gura so this picture is like whatever

>>49557365
>Kronies and Rosetai in the # Numbers club
Anon, we have eyes you know?
Otherwise, nice drawing, will put it on the fridge.

>>4955736
Astonishingly based

>>49557519
Wait for the slot change.

>>49557587
>Rosetai
Pretty sure that's a sapling given all the other EN fanbases.

>>49557518
>TKA
Great webnovel, shit adaptation. Art changes at least three times

>>49557434

>>49557365
&IRyS(tocrats)!

>>49557279
It was actually Jenma who was supposed to wake her up but fell asleep also.

>>49557254
ezzz IRyS cripple gold today

>>49557365
>reposting after you got laughed at in global
Embarrassing

>>49557804
Found the globalfag

>>49557842
I mean, making /v/ fanbase drawings already makes you a globalfag so go back.

global hate
https://files.catbox.moe/yg8qv1.jpg

>>49556114
I'm gonna make a wild guess and say that the blacked out square at the beginning is that faggot XQC.

>>49557222
But can they maintain an audience if a lot of the old guard just say "fuck it" and leave?

>>49555879
I hope they do, would make me sad seeing Hololive vtubers being selfish towards other vtubers.

>>49557987
Nah I don't see them leaving.

>>49557987
The important old guard are more likely to have three best contracts in the company

I think i figured out how niji clips get views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJMg3Pl7eJo

>>49557909
nah, it was an Ad.
Nyanners is now at the top learning Smite with snuffy.

https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners

>>49558130
>drops
they're reviving it?

>>49550040
Ine my beloved.

>>49558204
Smite always has drops for everything.
Kek, Nyanners didn't have them enabled, way to go TitanWhoever, informing the streamers.

dont forget the holo yab
https://files.catbox.moe/5n58g1.mp4

>>49558124
jesas

>>49550522
The only member that could make it refuses to stream

>>49550596
No fauna like all them gets views because they are hololive. Her game streams would be 3 views or worse with the rest of nijisanji. It’s why things to look forward to are important

>>49558395
AAAAAAAA MY DICK

>>49556114
How's that one new chick I forget the name of already doing? Has she started her noticeable decline or are vshokeks still huffing copium?

>>49558438

>>49558395
Man...Holos really are living the life.

>>49558487
what?

>>49558130
well shit, guess i was wrong. I'm so used to seeing that faggot in every twitch screenshot because he abuse's every single goddamn tag in existence, fuck I hate twitch allowing that bullshit.

>>49558438
Fuck off Cdawg

>>49558652
They actually removed the official “vtuber” tag because xqc and other OTK members were abusing it and they didn’t want to bother them about it.

>>49558487
Debut buff still seems to be ticking for now. I'm mildly interested if Henya can actually have decent retention, or if there's a reason why so many people forgot she existed for roughly 2 years.

>>49558652
xQc is. Idk what tag that anon is using. When i click "vtuber" on Nyanners' stream this is what it looks like to me

>>49558789
>dreamsmp
She's actually disgusting too

>>49558749
was there an official one?

>>49558487
Oh, you meant Honyan, fucks sake, word your post better.
Still fine for now, 13k last 2 streams
https://twitchtracker.com/henyathegenius/streams
But it's only been 3 days.
Plus she'd only have won gold for her debut day, losing to 16ks from the Koreans on the 15th and 16th.

Bae literally cannot catch a break. At least Mori isn't streaming today so she should have an hour alone at least.

>>49558749
Every day I hate twitch even more than I thought I could.

>>49553341
It's funny too because it only costs like 200 dollars to order a spare copy from youtube. Nijisanji could easily spend that to get a copy to send to the talents who break 100k but they are too cheap to even do that.

>>49558849
there was a debut? i was literally out for a couple of days

>>49558789
That's a screenshot from my follow list.
I made an account where i followed all the vtubers with over 500 median that Twitch anon posted in the 2022 list, and whatever others i pick up from other lists or when i check Twitch.
Since most Asian vtubers don't use the vtuber tag, just the language one usually.

>>49558956
Does Nijisanji block them from paying out of pocket? It’s shitty already but for something so unique as proof of your career and achievements I would imagine most would be willing to shell out 200 to own it themselves. Especially if your original magically disappeared kek

>>49558975
There she is.
All buff content so far, so it extended the debut buff, which usually fades really fast on twitch.

>>49559096
>Isegye and Met beating Ironlung