/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

OP is pretty cool

I feel like the devs should make an online training mode mode so we can lab with each other

you guys were arguing over skins last thread
so here's a pic for those scrubs that haven't unlocked them all which includes me

there's also an extra stage unlock if you beat virtual frontier with axel's hard difficulty chains, and it has a watame BGM and weather hackers

>>49372603
the polka alt is so ugly

This game makes me wish holocure got released on steam, i wonder why they didnt do that?

This game could use hitbox display, because I wanna know what the hurtbox on this fucking move is.

>>49372869
well they did just say they are planning to put it up on steam recently

>>49372603
foob 5
korone 2
ayame 6
sora 7
botan 1
suisei 3
aki 6
coco 4
Yes, I have awful taste

>>49372603
>morrigan color for aki
How do I unlock that? I haven't touched single player mode and I've been playing since release.

>>49372869
That just got announced.
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1656778815102914560

>>49372603
Why are these in different orders though, I unlocked Sanic Korone and Monster Energy Fubuki as well as Inchou by only playing online

>>49373520
weirdly aggressive of cover but hey at least its coming to steam

>>49372603
I'm a botan main but I think sonic korone and luna aki might be the best alts in the game

>>49373615
I don't think cover minds, I think it was itch.io trying to make money off of it

>>49373759
Ohh I see. yeah that sucks

im just now getting caught up on the whole "Kawaii"/"Gentle" thing. that is honestly hilarious

>>49373935
It's cute, also I think it's nice when the characters they're complaining about are real people.

>>49373992
>also I think it's nice when the characters they're complaining about are real people.
I don't think it should be necessary as theres already an implied degree of seperation but this is the real world where people get mad at dumb shit. That being said I'm all for this terminology to continue, its fun

suiseiGODS... we're top tier now

>>49373759
itchio was probably getting pissed because the launcher was using their servers without going through their website, the game was pretty popular

>>49374249
is this real?

>>49374301
yes

>>49374249
why her butt?

sora bnbs onegai

I'm never much of a rosterfag for any game I play but the fact that Towa will probably not make the cut as a playable character makes me kind of sad

>>49374249
Imagine people who never play an anime fighting game before asking this move to be plus lol

Today I learned about Korone's rising jL > S
More options to forget about during online, yay!

>>49374400
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Idol_Showdown/Sora_Tokino#Combos
The wiki has a few midscreen bnbs and a single corner one, the latter has a video example.

>>49374589
Instant overheads into full combos make me drop games.
why can't all instant overheads just be backjumping single hit jabs as a round ender

anyone wanna play

Is Foobs the new best character?

>>49376809
No but I do want to die

>>49376949
Awesome, thanks,
0B28F83C
Lobby up.

>>49376877
Chou kawaii in the right hands

>>49371656
>News for May 13 2023

It's the 14th

>>49374249
THE ASS HITBOX IS REAAAL

Feels like Suisei runs better setplay than Sora, along with better normals and damage.

>>49380057
Sui-chan is just as cute today

>>49380057
I thought Suisei just had mixes and damage over Soa

>>49380057
Suisei's normals definitely aren't better. I'd honestly say they're the worst set of normals in the game aside from 2M.

>>49380057
Setplay and damage? Yeah. Normals? 2m is real good and the gun j normal is real good, but the rest are bad. Still carries her consistent ass though fugg

>>49380229
Sometimes, one really great normal in neutral is all you need over a handful of just good ones

>>49380756
point to >>49380614, so yeah exactly

>>49380756
Sure, but everyone has at least one normal that's about as good, maybe better. It also kind of sucks that nothing has enough range to confirm from a long range 2M except for a 236L, and if you delay even slightly, you lose your turn or get punished from getting blocked.

Apparently pikamee is debuting so the board is about to become speed

>>49367308
Meaty backflip.

Why are mirror matches the most intimidating opponents? Besides Aki's ofc.

Coco can get 800 damage off super with full resources. Not sure if anyone has done this yet.

>>49383681
Because they can do everything you can do. Maybe faster.

>>49384297
I think someone ran that in that big tournament, except with Mio punch which surprisingly does more damage.

>>49384297
Most braindead no-effort character in the game.

>>49383510
Why is she looking at me like that?

>Mukirose was a projectile the whole time
This just makes me wish armor in this game actually worked properly.

>>49384297
>>49384472

Tried it with Mio and was able to get 804, even with 1 less bar of superchat. It's also super easy to execute with the wall bounce.

>>49385421
Now I just want A-egis Reflector to be able to steal him from Aki

>>49385421
I think of it more like a puppet character's puppet. It feels less bullshit that way.

>>49364388
Would love Holo vs Niji but I doubt most of the talents from either company would stream it so it probably wouldn't get popular like Holocure or Showdown
Also seems like making fangames for Niji sucks

>>49384297
why can she just chain grabs like that? idgi

>>49374589
Are you SURE this actually connects properly now? Last time I checked, rising j.L didn't have enough hitstun to chain into j.S. I thought Foobs' was bad enough. Shotos don't need those kind of mixups dammit! Especially now that 2.M is confirmed +OB. That shit is gonna fuckin degenerate! Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

>>49387532
I hope so, Korone has like no BS besides 5M which kinda pales in comparison to everyone else's shit

anyone wanna play

When are we getting mods so the game lives forever

>>49389259
I'm modding Korone in

>>49389259
This isn't a 3d game where you can just port an MMD model, all the effort is in actually putting the characters in the game.

>>49389533
How does Mugen do it?

>>49389802
Because it's a whole bunch of unrelated people working on their own characters instead of a small dev team?

28 years old who is a complete shitter in FOREVER in fightans here. Who I should try as a complete novice and beginner|?

>>49391225
whoever you think is fun. the thing that keeps you playing and improving is enjoying yourself, first and foremost.

>>49391272
I hate Ayame but I picked her
Also I either have Parkinson or I can't fucking do actual motions.

>>49391295
slow yourself down. when i used to miss quarter circles a lot, i realized it was because i was going too quickly and missing the corner input, going straight from down to back or whatever. it's more lenient than it seems.

>>49387776
Hope what? She's SUPPOSED to be honest - that's the point! Take that away and she's just another fraud but still low-tier.

>>49391225
I play as my oshi, no compromises.

>>49391225
Age doesn't matter if you're not trying to compete at the highest level. Just play who you like and focus on basics.
>t. started fightan as a boomer

>>49387532
It connects into ~300 damage if they're standing, won't connect if they're crouching.

>>49392453
What good is an instant overhead that doesn't connect on crouching opponents?

>>49392966
Your guess is as good as mine

>>49392453
Wow! It's fuckin nothing!

>>49392966
Found it'll connect with Risu's nuts.
I guess if you already have her out, it's an option...

>>49394332
Anyone can connect such with assists anon... Please stop

Does Suisei's EX-oki corner combo reset still work with the new air-tech?

bump

>>49395255
Nah
You get full invincibility on air tech until you land unless you hit an attack button.
Suisei's pressure is still stupidly strong though. 5 M now consistently a -2 instead of varying from +4 to -9 just add a tiny strength to an already strong pressure.

Is there a trick to knowing if an air attack is gonna crossup or not?

>>49397794
No. With the air control (drift), it can be a bit rough sometimes.

Is this move punishable? Some dude was spamming it and I could only trade jabs with him after he lands. What about other common jump attacks?

>>49398026
For jump attacks, you have to hit them in midair before they hit you. Most characters, that attack is 2H, but some have a different dedicated antiair attack.

The only tierlist that is objectively correct

>>49398143
Bro since launch I've run into MOSTLY Suisei. I have no idea how ya'll are missing her so much. Sora early on too, but not as much now.

>>49398240
I just want a good variety, most matches are against Botans, Cocos, Ayames and more recently, Aki.

>>49398332
Been Suisei (vastly), Ayames, and Korones lately for me. Did run into a Fubuki about an hour ago though. I've barely had Botan mirrors since day 3

>>49398379
Have you seen a Sora yet? I have not fought a single Sora since Day 1 and on Day 1 it was literally just one Sora.

There is something is little bit off with Sora that I can't point out as a new player.

>>49398332
It's weird how my experience has shifted a lot. I remember there used to be a lot of Korone and Fubuki. Now it's like they disappeared off the face of the planet. Meanwhile, Coco exploded in popularity.

>>49398493
Not today. Was sick (and drunk) which is why I'm awake at these times burger. Fought a few Korones, Fubukis, and one Suisei. Fubukis always seem to rematch forever (also try to rush me by spamming rematch. I like to fucking stay hydrated lol)

>>49398987
Funnily for me, I saw a lot of Coco at first, but now I never see her. I guess I've fought Aki once and they were obviously getting used to fighters.

>>49397794
If they jumped forward in the corner, they're most likely going for a crossup.
Midscreen, from what distance did they jump forward?
Got EX DP, blow that shit up.

>>49399206
This gaming here's thirsty work innit bruv? Gotta top that gamer fuel yeah? I might get dehydrated if I don't. And I can't have that y'know?

>>49399739
I rematched them for like 20+ minutes straight. I deserve a moment haha

>>49398143
Cute list

Maybe I should label myself as God. But, veteran has gotten me good matches too. I'm just not all that good.

>>49398026
You couldn't just anti air him?

>>49402672
My positioning is not good yet so when I use suisei's 2H I move forward and miss him and I get hit. is Suisei's 5M anti air?

>>49402752
Hey 2H is the dedicated anti air button. I don't play Suisei but if it's anything like Korone's it's got some sort of upper body invincibility

>>49402796
NTA, but if I remember right (I am not jumping back on to check) hers is a bit awkward due to moving forward like that. Probably annoying to get right

Bump

>>49371656
>-Update Nadetachis sending marshmallows begging for Nade to play more games

Breaking News, Nade is threatening to play Idol Showdown next week.

>>49404661
Ya'll use grenades?

Jokes aside, it is funny running into people running Kiara when I rarely use my zoning tools (for zoning). Don't even use 4H unless my opponent insists on being further than half screen. Basically when it makes sense instead of it being my gameplan. I'm a gremlin

Hey, if that "SUIPISS" Aki player is one of you, i just want you to know that you're a fag.
You have to burst to get out of combos, not press alt+f4

>>49406271
But the combo was still broken by pressing alt+f4 wasn't it?
Checkmate

So we know Peko-chan is one of the slots, but who else is going to make it in? Considering how much the dev loves JP, if an EN makes it in, I think Ina would be the most likely. Then for the last slot, will we get a playable ID instead of just an Assist, like Kobo?

>>49406859
Keep in mind that the dev is a redditor stuck in the past. It will be Pekora, Ina and Ollie

>>49407035
Ollie is the announcer though. Will she actually get a roster spot too?

>>49407098
Oh right, I forgot then another oldschool favourite would be Moona

>>49406859
>Soon /fig/ will have its own Amiya- Lumi collab in the shape of 2view idols having a /vt/ adjacent tournament, finishing itwith a concert together: /Fig/Fest.

Time for /fig/ UNITY

>>49406859
It's not a hard rule, but we could probably knock off any assist and skin colors, maybe Virtual Frontier shopkeepers as well? That means no Ame, Reine, or Mumei. Reaper sounds like a solid bet for an inclusion I guess.

>>49407644
Anyone but her please

>>49407644
based
>>49407856
cringe

>>49407906
Dear god please I beg of you, at least don't make her super busted

>>49407856
Don't you want to beat the everliving shit out of her?

>>49399246
The appearance rate of Coco for me fell off a cliff after the first day. Fubuki and Korone soon after. It's all Ayame and Botan with the occasional Suisei

>>49406859
>Pekora - most likely a trapper
What about Gura? There's no cosplay or anything other than a poster about her.
What kind of fighter would she be?

>>49408508
No, think of all the annoying voices that she'll make when you hit her
Everyone else makes cute noises

>>49402752
Suisei's 5M looks good >>49374249
I don't know the size of Fubuki's hurtbox though
Obviously you need to position yourself so you hit her without getting hit yourself

>>49409102
Annoying poke and run away
Like Dhalsim or Axl Low?

>>49408973
Funny enough, but playing Aki gave me a newfound hatred of playing against Coco.

>>49398143
Bro I mostly played Suisei mirror matches today

>>49409102
She'd be like Aquaman in Injustice or Yukina from dengeki bunko fighting climax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtgGXLSMOwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl2OElQbRSs

>>49409302
I wonder if it's a regional thing

>>49389802
>>49390230
also it rips shitton of assets from other games, mainly GBA and DS titles

>>49389533
Question still stands.
When Mods? I want to play naked Aki.

>>49407230
we need at least 8 2views idols for a /vt/ idol tournament tho

Since this game came out and I decided to learn Suisei, I’m becoming more and more enticed by the concept of suisex

I’m starting to want that suisex real bad

>>49406859
>will probably have to settle for Rushia color Pekora or Mori
>will have to learn a character type I usually avoid
O-ogey...

>>49406859

>>49411347
I can't wait for the mod that removes all references to Rushia

>>49411395
Not compatible with the mod that outright adds her along with several other characters

>>49409458
Injustice looks like worse Mortal Kombat

>>49406859
How do other fighting games introduce new assists? Do they come with new playable characters?

>>49412192
I don't know but there's no reason for the devs to follow other games' character release format.

>>49412033
it is in many ways, but i do like that it uses back to block

>>49374367
Toxic braps

>>49412304
Having a block button is just gay, it removes left right mixups entirely. That's what I hated about DNF Duel amongst other things.

suisex

I'm starting to notice this game has two types of player. Those who block and those who don't.

>>49412871
That's like every fighting game.

>>49412985
This is the only fighting game I played besides Super Turbo and some early soku

>>49389259
How easy is it to crack open the game and mess with values? Mizuumi has getting hitboxes pretty fast so it may not be that difficult.

>>49412871
A lot of veteran fighting game players like to say the best to get good at a fighting game is to learn how to block

>>49412871
>>49413707
Actually it's not just learning how to block, but when to block.

A new player will usually not know when to execute abare - they might just mash wantonly on wake up or during blockstun and get meatied or frametrapped respectively.
A player with a little more experience will usually recognize these scenarios and know they need to block on wakeup against the meaty or keep blocking during pressure strings to not eat the frametrap. This however opens them up to getting thrown on wakeup or letting the opponent run up and throw them or overhead them during pressure. These are things that will usually lose to someone mashing jabs however.
A higher level player will instead try to read the opponent and block if he predicts the opponent will go for the meaty or frametrap, and mash when predicting the opponent will try to throw on wakeup or run up in the middle of a pressure string.

>>49414079
Mashing against meaty or tick throw doesn't work

>>49372603
What are suisei's last two colorways?

>>49414252
Inui Toko and Sion from MB

>>49414156
That's why I mentioned you want to mash jabs when you think your opponent won't go for a meaty. Mashing should also work against most tick throws because you can't cancel into throw from jab and most jabs are minus on block with normal throws being 7f startup. Exception is Coco's command grab which you need to play RPS around that's weighted in her favor.

>>49406271
>SUIPISS YOU HAD BURST
kek

>>49414420
I tick throw with Miko

>>49415702
Are we the new Melty Blood?

>>49415790
It's too sanitized. idol Showdown is amazingly fun as a game but the scene is already too significant from the preexisting fandom. Melty came into its own despite being a fighter based on a VN that 99.9% of Melty players have never touched and they somehow managed to elevate it into something disgustingly funny. Idol Showdown should have its own identity.

>>49399529
I don't even have regular DP

>>49415702
Are these images referencing something from Melty?

>>49414079
>>49413707
>>49412871
Yes.

>>49414079
Yeah I think that's one of my two biggest issues right now. Subconsciously mashing jab while blocking at the wrong time, getting hit and then seething because "BUT I WAS BLOCKING". I need to work on that.

>>49416207
Suisei feels like a hard counter to people who block well. You're automatically losing on defense against her.
Also why did you post 3rd strike? You just force your way in with parry in that game. You don't even have to block.

>>49412724
mixups are even gayer

>>49412724
Some L/R mixups like Kuno's meaty frog summon are unreactable due to how quick dodge roll is. The block button is necessary in that game unless they want to either remove dodge roll's ability to cross people up or add in automatic crossup protection which is even gayer.

>>49416378
That's anime fighter in general. You can only block so much. You don't want the opponent to get in for free but being good at defense still have great benefit. You have to be good at mashing out or use a reversal in your defense.

>>49416207
The skill execution for knowing when and how to block moves is one thing, parrying is another skill entirely.

>>49391447
Who the hell wants to be honest in a dishonest game

>>49407644
>Reaper
>Rushia colors
I wonder if Cover will allow it.

>>49409185
It really is just a gamble playing against that character. I hope Coco players don't think they're good for tossing a coin.

>>49412724
Block buttons are the thinking man's choice. Holding back is retarded

>>49407644
I don't like this idea, as I need picrel in my game

I don't even play her but if you're getting this pressed over the worst character in the game you better just quit now before you start fighting real players and they teach you what the rest of the cast can do

>>49409185
>Plays Aki
>hates fighting Coco
How
I thought Aki shits all over Coco

>>49416207
Will we ever have another "let's go Justin" moment

>>49414316
Inui I get cause they're friends, but what about Sion?

>>49417827
Everyone get's a fighting game chara skin, I don't think there's much logic in who got what. Some fit, some are just, yeah sure.

>>49417940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn9MuEiBGTA
Found this when I googled Korone M.Bison

>>49417657
Coco player here, she does, the only two methods to ever get close to aki with the closest thing to neutral or advantage you'll ever get the entire math:
>catch her asleep and sneak a 3H below the belt then rush to her face, do a combo and hope she falls for anything since mostly everything not SC cancelled is minus, try fishing a flip grab since dino is far too reactable even if it catches crouch blocks. You may be cancelled by either her full burst gauge or an aki summon she took a hit to call
>keep blocking until your assist is ready (hopefully marine) and then rush to face, same as above
Overall heavy disadvantage towards coco

>>49418278
I wouldn't question the pick of koro as bison I know she liked him, but the actual colour is far enough off that people weren't certain that was even the reference it was going for for a while.

>>49418278
Like I said, some fit, Botan getting Noel and Coco Potemkin don't have a deep connection, but playstyle it makes obvious sense, and then you have FBK with Ky Kiske and Sora with Athena?

>>49418279
Heavy downplaying going on here. You forgot:
>get in once
>win
And it's so easy to achieve that with burst. You literally win by losing as Coco.

>>49417613
What are you talking about?

How do I know what rank to put myself at?

I. FUCKING. HATE. MOTION. INPUTS!
>inb4 skill issue
I FUCKING KNOW, BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET USED TO THEM FOR YEARS AND I ALWAYS FUCK UP WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS I HATE THEM

>>49419210
Are you using stick or keyboard?

>>49419243
dpad

>>49419109
experience

>>49419275
Unfortunate
You will be shit forever

>>49418279
Not only your 3H beats every normal Aki has, your fire special can fuck her up.
And yeah, please enlighten me which exact button Aki needs to press to get you off her.

>>49419308
Are arcade sticks or keyboard really the only way?

>>49419411
It's really as easy as learning to roll your thumb, especially for quarter circle inputs.

>>49419411
Don't listen to him. Dpad is fine. Unless it's a 360 of a playstation controller.
Switch dpad sucks too btw.
What i mean to say is, unless you bought your 3rd party gamepad with the intention of playing fighting games on it, dpads are usually trash.

>>49419411
No. I use a ps4 dpad to play and I never mess up my motion inputs.

Is it possible to play characters with 360 inputs on keyboard?

>>49419402
>your fire special can fuck her up.
This. I was beating one Coco last night 5 matches to one until she started using fire at the right distance, beating all projectiles and normals. It was like playing against a different character. That shit really doesn't need to lead to a hard knockdown.

>>49419503
>>49419514
I guess, it's time to just call it. I'll have to stick to 3D Fighters since 2D games all have motion input shit. I just wanted to have fun with my Oshi man.
>>49419620
Well you're some kind of god then because I've grinded in the lab and have done the motions over and over again, but when my health is low or I am mid combo I FUCK IT UP AND I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT

>>49419643
It's definitely possible, just need to make sure you're releasing the keys so it doesn't fuck up your inputs. load into training and see how it's parsing what you're doing and see if you can adjust it to fit what it's going for.

>>49419301
I don't really get it. Are there any God level players here? Can you test me so I know what rank to put myself?

>>49419411
no, stop crying

>>49419514
>Unless it's a 360 of a playstation controller.
Ive seen really good players use a stock PS4 controller tho

>Wiki pages already showing hitboxes
How can I access this info? Ayame's wiki hasn't been updated since day 1 and I wanna know her wack ass heavenly oni flip hitbox.

half the vtubers in this game are gura-tier retired

>>49418934
>>49419402
>get in once
That's the whole ordeal
You cant get in
And even if you get in you get cancelled by either burst or mukiroze
And then you're back to being pelted by projectiles half a screen away, until you try committing to anything, that will lose to a projectile anyway, and you either get full combo with a teleport or knocked down and put to defend an infinite string with mixups

>>49420252
Yeah it seems like it's only on Aki, Botan and Suisei, I've been wanting to see where Sora 6L really hits for a while now.

>>49420502
Again. Just 3H or fire for your easy knockdown. Trading fire with muki is even ideal.
If you can't walk forward and block to get in range that's your problem, not Aki's.

>>49420479
Imagine being in Hololive and seeing Ayame get in this game and not you, I'd be fucking pissed lmao

>>49420502
Don't know why you keep seriously responding to anons who think one button is the answer to a matchup.
Take the top 8 Coco vs Aki match from the tourney a couple days ago, if it was as simple as one button why didn't the Coco win?
I'd bet those players know a bit more than the average anon here so you are just talking to a stone wall at that point, matchup is difficult for sure.

>>49415790
this is as relevant as the AmongUs fighting game, we're still in the initial launch month honeymoon period so everyone is playing.
Melty's status is unique because of how despite it being played enough to be relevant, orgs continually treated it less than a side tourney so it gave birth to "Melty is outside" then continuing into "Melty in the bathroom"
Just being a poverty fighting game just puts it in "quality shovelware".

>>49416106
yes

>>49421771
What was Melty Blood's edge over other fightans?

>>49421823
poverty

>>49421823
Mostly like 2hu, a doujin game that ran into lot of happenstace luck.

>>49420479
>>49421182
>t. ENfags

>>49422648
not really, just stating an objective fact

>>49417827
Sion for Suisei cuz Sui's 22L/22M/22H are all literally Etherlite specials.

>>49422648
There's no JPs you have over Ayame?

>>49422648
the first post literally puts down an EN as well

I'm so tired of being forced to quit after one round when a player beats me. Can't they just match me with people I can win against?

>>49423407
You're supposed to rematch with better players to git gud.

>>49423494
That doesn't work.

>>49423407
fighting games arent fun until theyre fun

>>49423577
Worked for me

Tomorrow is a balance patch for IS right?
Also minor tournament stream on Twitch rn.

>>49421476
>burst once
>i'm in
Gee that was hard

>>49423894
link

>>49423978
https://www.twitch.tv/whatdanieldo

Why do we have no female posters left

does anyone want to play

>>49423169
Maybe Shion so I can have a dance reunion with these two

>>49418878
Sora as Athena makes complete sense because they're both idols, while Fubuki getting Ky is probably a reference of her being the shoto-esque character of the game and IS is an afg but I do agree it's a rather weird pick.

Where is the Ina tentacle rape assist?

>>49419210
They made the S button for you. Yeah, you will have a bit less meter, but you will still be able to duke it out with other motor-impaired players.

>>49424064
What's the point of using kanata with a rushdown chara like ayame?

>>49425040
I keep reading that using easy inputs will only build bad habits. Not that it matters now.

>>49374249
oh so that's why it doesn't whiff on crouchers

>>49389533
Make sprites out of the MMD models, ez

>>49424783
if you're eu im up

>>49425352
You jest, but that's how they made DKC

>>49425392
I'm not EU but let's just say I am.
7C975B21
Rollback is magic.

>>49425040
NTA but I use Suisei's 5S way too often. No way I'm pressing 246L every time.

>>49419109
If you win three times in a row, bump yourself up. Then when you keep losing, bump yourself down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSpHFlLH_0
HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!

>>49425514
How good is fatcat at fightan?

>>49425462
Anon...?

>>49425599
she was good at the fightan minigame in donkey kong 64 so she's ok i guess

>>49423930
>burst once
>she's out
Damn that was tough.
But on a more serious note considering Coco has burst you must have done an Aki combo and some neutral so depending on your collab you should have it ready and can use it defensively without even having to burst (most likely you don't have it unless Coco got hits in).
And unless there is a considerable difference in your skill vs the opponent, it's unlikely Coco will win from 1 knockdown.
Also even if she uses her burst to get in, that means you get to have the second burst which means your turn against a Coco with no burst.

>>49425458
Isn't one of the KoF games the same?

>>49425475
236 rather

>>49424145
they got bored of transitioning and decided to stop wearing women's clothing and start going to the gym again

>>49425198
For the motor-impaired it will not. These people can't press three buttons in a row using their thumb.
As for people that are actually capable of learning how to lean their thumb, the only thing they will have is a slower time learning how to do motions. I can't really see what kind of bad habits easy inputs can teach.

>>49425514
>big wildcat as a new playable character
Only if

>>49425514
>HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!
TEKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN EIGHTAAAAHHHHH
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>49424789
How would Shion play?

>>49428340
Maybe like Elena from third strike just with magical kicks

>>49425462
>>49425682
GGs guy. You were understanding the Coco mixup by the end there.
Also the connection was really good.

>>49425462
Good games, cant even touch you if you block low

>>49420479
All of the non graduated ones stream more than Gura.

https://twitter.com/TeemoMVC/status/1657807657443491842
Is this useful? I can't really make out what he's doing.

Fast board, Slow night
What are you watching/playing?
Also, have you checked out the indies in the op?
I originally posted this ritual on lig so I knew about Coyo and Shimada but not the other two. I might watch.
Also I need to do a comic for them and perhaps I will make a comic for these threads I need to do my reps

>>49432513
Watching girls play Zelda badly

>>49432513
I'm watching doog wizardry while trying to get rid of my excess inputs and improving my reaction in training mode so I don't commit on a block and die irl.

>>49432578
I'm avoiding that because I don't want to get spoilered
>>49432655
gambaro

Wish training had a "repeat after block" option.

https://www.twitch.tv/otani_bc
A single man trying to cope about Aki

>>49432655
>it's real
God damn that's impressive how she's actually playing it. I don't expect her to beat it though.
Still, this stupid vtuber bullshit is more hardcore than 90% of /v/.

>>49434303
I should do a savescum-less run, but once I get to the level drain enemies I'll regret it

>>49434395
>savescum-less run
That's how you play the game though. That's like saying you'll do a mapless run.

>>49428515
I don't see her being as agile at all, I think she'd just be more like Athena

Anyone getting disconnected in the middle of a match sometimes? happened to me twice today.

>>49435399
Yeah it happens to me when I alt+f4.

>>49435399
Several times

>>49435399
It only happens when I start winning

Finally found the way to finish this jank ass combo.

>>49432678
surprisingly cursed image

>>49438105
That's actually a buttplug? That's kind of hot.

>>49439568
>he doesn't know the coco lore
oh no no

how to actually play FGs? i keep getting bodied by my friend (ayame) n i cant do shit cuz her pressure is insane. is it just the perfect execution of combos? just reactions? muh intuition? and to make matters worse, i cant consistently use meter because of this kusoge weird ass input reading thingy

>>49442865
which character do you main? Ayame is strong but she should still lose to suisex/aki/botan gaming. If you're coco just pray to yagoo for buffs and continue coping and seething

if you want actual advice you're gonna need to know what's punishable against Ayame for your character and then you're gonna have to play the rekka mind-game

>>49443214
aki, cuz i like these kinds of chars, like Ramlethal despite being a scrub

>>49443214
Actually Ayame is probably Coco's best matchup. Coco's got better pokes and can afford to run a more damaging assist instead of being stuck with Kiara. Also has the easiest way out of Ayame's pressure as well as Ayame's shortness actually being exploitable in the matchup.

>>49443306
if you're playing aki you really need to get her combos down perfectly because she's not someone you can just press buttons and get moves to connect
she can't even do gatlings naturally

just start from there

>>49443427
i see will try

>>49443506
i just copied this guys's stuff
https://youtu.be/gNr1Jsmhzk0?t=721 (left it at a good timestamp)

aki's combos are really tricky and take a lot of practice. don't feel down if you can't do them first try

lemme know if you have questions about how do certain moves

>>49443398
I've always felt rushdown have the advantage over grapplers, especially one with as little armor as coco. Feels like aside from her super-grab it's really easy to get swept in the ayame vortex once it gets going. The ayame will have to be careful not to get outpoked by the god-tier 5H/3H coco has but beside that I don't think coco's gameplan does her any good

>>49443708
Ayame doesn't have much in the way of real mixup though. She has stagger pressure, but it's a bit less useful since Coco's the only character with a frame 4 meterless option. It's just a heavily momentum based matchup where it feels like a steamroll depending on who goes first. One character has better neutral and the other has an invincible DP.

>>49421823
Probably the crack addictions. The image posted >>49421771 is resized but in the full image you can see a lightly burnt crack pipe on the counter.

An actual good Coco will destroy Ayame, All she has to do is block and once the ungabunga ends you grab her. Coco outranges her neutral too, don't use flame or you'll eat an oni flip, just poke with 2M, not like Ayame wants to do footsies anyways because you can always Next Meme her if you see her turtle in that range. If you block the oni flip you can instagrab her too.

>>49445309
which grab? the 236L+M or the next meme one? I can't ever get the L+M big throw to connect but I can tick throw the universal one easily

Why do people keep insisting that fubuki is low tier? She's annoying as shit. Her hitstun makes no sense and she has that weird counter.

>>49447580
diaphone put her third

>>49447580
because the game has been out for barely a week and no one knows what they're talking about

>>49447580
Who is? She's almost as braindead as Botan.

SORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
E100BF82

people keep ragequitting against me
i'm not even good

God dammit, it toko me an hour of screaming why my inputs weren't working before I realized that you can't block anti-airs...
Fucking botan with the double side cover fast as hell anti air.

>tfw got raped in a mirror match to the point I started recording to see if I could learn new tech from him
Should I add the guy on Steam and ask him for pointers?

>>49449159
yeah i've done that. be careful about your self esteem though. last dude i added was politely honestly with me and it made me want to kill myself.

>>49449226
Yeah I don't think I will then. I think I have an understanding of my flaws but can't seem to find a way to improve them.

>>49449456
Also looking at his profile there's people joking about how much time he spends playing fighting games so yeah just exp dif.

>>49449456
coward...

>>49447783
Thanks for the matches. Got me stuck on a black screen for no reason for a few seconds. But I finally got to experience what Aki does to an extent and I see where people are coming from.

>>49449833
Same here, I think the lobby exploded. Guess this is as good a stopping point as any. GGs.
I audibly exclaimed "What the fuck!?" when you did the low airdash into super command grab. That was pretty sexy.
I also kept trying the same slide into groundslam because I thought I could jump or backdash the command grab. It worked sometimes but I think that's just because you did it a little later those times.
Even in /vt/, FOE!

>>49449917
Did a bit of testing in training on the slide stuff. Depends on the spacing, close slide is punishable by command grab after any special. At longer ranges the slide pushes too far away to punish though. Timing is tight either way. I think I shit my pants when I used the fire breath and it somehow hit when you were behind me.

>>49450394
That 5th dimensional cross-up psychic fire to end the game was amazing. I had to teabag after that one. At least you know that's a potential counter to teleport now, lmao.
You definitely got me scared trying that same slide Aki loop. I'll have to be more careful from now on.

Devs disabling the menu for online was a mistake, I keep having to fight retards living in Narnia who join my lobbies and I have to either play a round at 20000 ping or outright exit the game.

Why does he keep saying the only oshi i know is tasty steve

>>49451308
He reads it as oishii

>>49371656
>fighting idols

but can any of these girls actually sing?

>>49451899
Irrelevant to being an idol kek kek kek kek

>>49451899
Shimada is literally singing right now in her ASMR

>>49451899
Rie is actually pretty good

>>49373211
>This game could use hitbox display
that would be cool

Yeah I'm done playing this garbage until they gut Aki

Hey guys, bump limit!
Is there anything you want added to the op?

>>49452832
What character do you use? If the Coco I played earlier can poop on my Aki then you can poop on Aki too.

>>49453194
Ayame.

>>49453340
Oh lol I was actually going to add that to my post. If you play Ayame just give up. I firmly believe she struggles the hardest against Aki out of all characters in the game. Literally all Aki has to do is block until she catches you walking forward or doing something unsafe.
If you want to destroy Aki learn Suisei.

>>49453470
I'm just done until they gut her or they add my oshi.

>>49453697
They're probably not going to gut her. I'll just say it is possible to deal with her shit.

>>49454027
Yeah I know but if I'm going to invest time in this I'd rather have fun and if there's matchups as lopsided as this I'd rather quit while I'm ahead instead of being one of the ten remaining players of this, only getting matched with Akis who have mastered every single aspect of her.
I don't expect the devs to care much about balance since this is a labor of love and they probably want to be done with it but yeah there's broken and there's this.

>>49452916
Please be my gf

>>49454575
An idol must never get together with a man!
Erping is also forbidden in here, even for coyotachis!

I think Aki's only OP move is the back teleport (nothing personnel kid). It's just bullshit. Instant cross-up and full combo from almost anywhere on the map is just broken. How do teleports work for other fightans?

>>49455500
I think you can react to it, but yeah it's pretty "kawaii".

Bread

>>49454728
>>49454728
>>49454728
>>49454728