/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49395953
Fauna is an asshole.

Pikamee not joining Hololive deflection thread

>>49395998
Fauna's asshole...

>>49395953
Have you met NENE?

Western Vtubers are just retarded. HOLO en should of never been a thing.

You're right, I only have enemies.

>>49395953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s_Bucn6yIA&t=77s
what now ?
no wonder EN is dying while JP is thriving

>>49395953

nice projection cuckling

Please stop pretending to be anime girl

>>49395953
and streaming isn't a real job either

>>49396192
Let it die. Was a stupid idea anyway and we can all blame KSON.

>>49396192
JP has been utterly soulless ever since corpoX debuted. It's just another paint-by-numbers japanese "entertainment" thing now. no better than their shitty reaction-based variety shows.

>>49396274
What and EN has a soul? They just simp farmers at this point.

No better than Amouranth or Pokimane.

There to make bank and farm the simps.

>>49396268
>>49396274
Not an argument , seethe harder

>>49396356
JPs are the ones that spend time talking about their tits and how they masturbate. They're the ones that farm simps, sorry.

>>49396376
Why are you putting spaces around that comma?

Are you retarded too?

>>49396414
Have you seen Kronii? I would say gura but she need to stream fro that to happen.

>>49396426
still not an argument sis

>>49395953
FAU FAU IS MOMMY!!
UUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>49396468
meanwhile, chloe and marine...

Fauna is... my enemy....

>>49396488
Cry more simp. Your tears are wonderful.

>>49396558
evil sapling arc when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ychNwwJ7Y

>>49396561
I accept your concession cuckling

>>49396814
What do you mean, Anon is right. You're nothing but a walking wallet for these bitches.

>>49396925
Who even said anything about money, really reaching here sisters

>streamers cannot become friends with their fans
Then why did she become friends with her oshi Gura?

>>49395998
What does that make Pippa then?

>>49395953
The Queen has something to say about that.

>>49395953
Sorry 1%er, Fauna explained her reasons perfectly well: she takes friendship extremely seriously and believes friends should go through everything in life together, especially the worst parts. However, Fauna is an idol, so she believes she shouldn't show her fans her bad parts. Thus, she believes she shouldn't become their friends. That's literally it.
I know it sucks for your shitposting that Hololive hasn't had a yab in a long while, but this ain't it either chief. Stop clinging to it so desperately. These circlejerk/echo chamber shitposting generals will never earn you a gift card.

>>49397283
You left out the worst part, she said she thinks all streamers feel this way.
Speaking on behalf of all her holo senpais and other vtubers, acting like she can talk about what their connection to their audience is like.

>>49397264
You got laughed out of /#/, stop making threads
>>49395615

>>49397408
No-one gives a fuck about /#/ anon, that's where the crypto cunts live.

>>49397349
I agree with Fauna, saplings / chat / audience are more associates than friends. But everyone has a different level of approach ability to others, the fact that Fauna keeps chat arms apart is totally fine, after all the screen is the divider and she doesn't know anyone personally.

I don't have any friends, people who I trust to talk things with, from my understanding that's what she is talking about, and even some in JP do say they don't have close friends but they are friendly too each other.

Fauna's problem is that there are distinctions, and friends don't ONLY mean close friends.

>>49396468
kronii talks about masturbating? link?

>>49395953
Their job is pretending to be my friend
Is it that difficult to understand?
No fucking shit its not real fauna you spastic
You aren't supposed to occasionally remind people that it isn't real mid-roleplay
This dumb bitch should be glad that her fanbase is too autistic to remember or else she would never be able to pull off a single bit of gfe again

She's right.

>>49397824
>Their job is pretending to be my friend

Nigga you brain dead?

I fucking love these threads. I love seeing the spastics crawl out of the woodwork.

>>49395953
ITT are faunaschizos and retarded saplings that can't help but bite bait
I'm glad it's Fauna and 1% being the obligatory bait threads this week instead of my oshi

>>49397408
>thinking /#/ matters
there's a reason they keep braking containment

>>49397518
>>49398165

>>49397824
Their job is to be an entertainer you retard
How the fuck can they even be your "friends" when they have no idea who you even are or even recognize you without you throwing a bunch of money at them?

>>49397824
>Discord spacing

WOWZERS

>49398297
/hlgg/ hates /#/

Fauna and regularly go and get beers together after her stream is done so for her to say we're not friends anymore, that cuts real deep.

>>49395953
No friendship is genuine. It's just a transactional exchange of favors and social currency, driven by self-interest and the desire to gain an advantage over others.

>>49395953
Men shouldnt rape: Is it that difficult to understand?
Blacks shouldnt steal: Is it that difficult to understand?
Gay shouldnt groom kids: Is that difficult to understand

>>49398812
can i still b friends with all 3 groups or are they just criminals

>>49398780
Ah yes, the transactional exchange of sitting on a stinky couch with 4 other men while one brings out a bowl of Doritos.

>>49397966
Like you!

We all already know that.
Your job is to tread the line carefully and make us think maybe it's different this time.
Pointing out that we aren't friends destroys all illusion and immediately makes us enemies and I drop you forever.

>>49399161
>and make us think maybe it's different this time

Why would you want to be friends with a female YouTuber?

>>49397920
>>49398399
>>49398548
>NO BRO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND VTUBERS ARENT GFE BRO PLEASE IM NOT PARASOCIAL I JUST LIKE THE STREAMS MAN PLEASE BELIEVE ME PLEASE

ANON ARE YOU OKAY, YOU OKAY, YOU OKAY ANON

YOU'VE BEEN TRICKED BY
YOU'VE BEEN SLAPPED BY
A SMOOTH KIRIN-AL

>>49396192
Retarded clipfag dogfuckers don't even know where the 2700 million yen Cover spent on a 3D studio came from. It's a 18 month project so connect the dots youself

>>49398780
t. Never had real friends

>>49399343
>BRO PLEASE IM NOT PARASOCIAL I JUST LIKE THE STREAMS

Streams? You mean clips. Now excuse me, I gotta go park my Yacht.

>>49395953

>>49398976
>mfw its not cool ranch

>>49398780
>want to be alone?
>well fuck you, your body is gonna punish you for trying to escape and there's nothing you can do about it
Nature sucks.

>>49395998
fpbp

>>49396376
the first person to say that is actually losing the argument, they've given up fighting by pretending they don't have to.
Imagine a professional puncher standing in the ring, and he tells the other boxer "that's not even a punch"
Well, it's not for the dumbass loser to decide, it's up to the audience and judges what counts as a punch or not.

You lose.

>>49395953
1%

>>49395998
Fpbp!

>>49399343
Socially retarded schizo incapable of understanding people can watch streams for entertainment like millions of people who watch tv shows, youtube videos, sports, movies, and even fleshtubers

>>49399415
>real friends
t. avoiding delusions

>>49399414
Nice try , i said dying not dead , yes they made some money but the decline is there , so you do the math chief , funny how they didnt make an EN studio if they make so much money huh?

>>49399670
When the entire experience gets boiled down to anime girl png talking about her day for 2 hours there is only one answer denialfag

>>49398780
Try not having a dogshit personality no one can stand and maybe people will actually enjoy your company

>>49399670
Difference being some of those streams are actually entertaining.

>>49395953
Yes, it is, because

>most of /vt/ is underage and/or manchildren
>little social contact
>no actual role models for normal male behavior and interaction with females


This is why they act like horny SIRs around any female and think giving her $2 makes her a gf for life. Yes, its ultra cringe and full of incel energy, but then again we also did some cringy shit as teens (just lucky there was no actual internet/social media).

>>49395953
Mommy is also not your friend.
Is it that difficult to understand?
I rarely spend money on my friends.

>>49399615
That would work except they never made an argument retard chama , they went straight to name calling and going full autism over a fucking coma , you dont get to say you threw a punch and thus it counts because you say so .

>>49395953
Doesn't mean she needs to tell her audience that, let's say you go to your favorite singer's concert, you look up to him/her a lot, supported them for years and they just sit down and tell their audience: "Listen, I am greatful you all came to see me, but please keep in mind I'm just an entertainer and this is just business, I don't have any emotional feelings for none of you nor I ever will, we're not friends, we're nothing, so without further ado LET'S FUCKING ROCK" YEEEEAAAAH"

>>49399764
>horny SIRs
What the fuck kind of discordtroon slang is this

>>49399764
cool buzzword post

>>49399838
Good morning.

>>49399718
Are you retarded? Where the fuck would an EN studio even be at? The branch members are spread across 5 countries and 4 continents. Even the ones in the US spread between the different time zones. What's the point of opening a studio that 75%+ of the branch won't even be able to use without taking a hours long plane ride every time?

>>49399746
Oh, my sweet summer child.

>>49399847
>can't refute any of it
>haha you mad bro

>>49397349
yep. She's calling nene a liar. Her take is actual traste taste tier.

>>49399890
>>49399929
Kill yourself ASAP please

I just don't get the friendship part.

Everyone here is saying "GFE", what the fuck does friendship have to do with that?

>>49399945
Referring to the wrong post.

>>49399744
Maybe you should try watching some gameplay streams instead of only watching superchat readings

>>49399968
Nothing. It's just an excuse to stir a drama.

>>49399896
You implied En made most of that money, well invest on them then and you put it in a country that doesnt close every 2 weeks like Japan does , the girls can travel there , problem solved and they have to travel to Japan anyways to use the studio , you would think they would prioritize the so called money makers

>>49399937
>refuting twitter buzzword vomit
No thanks

>>49399987
>>>>>>>>>I watch women play vidya for the gameplay
/thread

>>49398780
The kids believe that friendship is real because they saw it in fairytales.

>>49395953
She’s not a streamer

>>49399978
No I'm not you faggot

>>49400237
t. the butthurt

>>49400093
First of all, I never implied anything since I'm not the OP you were replying too. I was just shocked by your stupidity of suggesting opening a studio for a branch with members in 5 different countries.
Jfc you are actually so retarded it hurts. The japan studio still gets used when the en girls aren't using them. What would an en studio do when the en girls aren't using them? Are they just gonna rent and build a giant studio on top of hiring a full team of staff just for it to be empty for most of the year? If they're gonna fly anyway, what the fuck would even be the point of opening another studio? Japan has been open for over a year now.
Please tell me you're joking and not actually this retarded.

>>49399746
>maybe people will actually enjoy your company
>enjoy you being around
>keep you around for personal gain
You could have just said "I agree" retard
That isnt making some grand gotcha about the nature of relationships thats just literally what friendship is

>>49400410
then why even reply based on his argument, that would mean you agree with his point
you can rent that studio for other stuff dumb chama , again if EN is so profitable you can afford it , meanwhile in reality we have seen EN decline which was my original point btw

>>49395953
99% of the audience knows that. but breaking it down on stream like that is tactless and tone deaf. but fauna was already a turbo paranoid whore in her past life so no wonder she had to give us the talk at some point.

>>49399764
I think you have it wrong. Vtubers are puppets for a performance, and chat is also in on the performance. A compelling argument thrown around is that vtubing is like pro-wrestling and what fauna did is break the kayfabe, but anyone that has watched wrestling live or on tv has seen and resonated with the audience as they keep up the kayfabe themselves: Grown men booing the bad guys and cheering for the heroes. Is it possible that saplings themselves are part of the act? The crying for mom, the neediness? This actually has a long history in japan, the first kabuki were women after all. Maybe this play interaction is more stimulating than some watching some mid try to have takes or be edgy without getting banned.

>>49400544
Such a breakdown is no different from going into details about caring for cats. It's just one of the million tangents. It's not worth rising eyebrows. Only the dramafags are trying to twist this nothing-burger into something.

>>49400025
Oh is this more Nijisanji shit.

>>49400207
>THAT'S MY WIFE'S SON'S GIRLFRIEND

>>49400744
Trying to grasp at any straw.

>>49400544
Think about this; im a casual fan not a sapling that merely watched Fauna cause i liked her streams enough and plus she would often be the only one on at that time , so i watched to have some fun or have some background noise while i do stuff , then one day all of a sudden i get " the talk " from Fauna for not fault of my own and get a 10 minute talk on why im not her friend , all because of a 10 dollar SC some known shitter sent btw , like im there to watch fun stuff not get lectured and not because some random who that started shit , like bitch i dont care about friends just do your job and stay in character people aint here for a lecture

>>49400544
>breaking it down on stream like that is tactless and tone deaf

But the retard sending the donation message is not?

>>49400827
If you don't care either way then why does it really matter?

>>49400827
>" the talk "
Stop smoking that shit.

>>49400797
Reimu killed her dogs already so she don't have any other fall guys (pets) anymore.

>>49400838
so if someone sends a donation message that says
>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER TND
you expect her to read it and say based?

>>49400827
Why haven't you complained when she talked about cleaning the ass of her old cat? I would rather hear 3 plain facts about "friendship" than a graphic description of a smelly cat handling.

>>49400984
>Yes! We're all friends here!

*phew* for a second there I thought she was gonna say we weren't friends.

>>49400984
cuckling has same IQ with their oshi.

>>49400484
you realize that just because you can afford something, it doesn't mean it wouldn't be a waste of money, right? I can afford to buy a luxury car right now but why the fuck would I buy one when I already have a car and all the new car will do is eat money every month?
i dont give a shit about what your original point was. I was just baffled by how you think an en studio would even be useful when almost every in en would still need to fly to it anyway so you're basically spending millions to save SOME of en a few hours of flight time... It wouldn't even save any flight time for Kiara and would straight up take more time for Mori, Irys, and Bae if the studio is in the US.
also, great fucking idea on renting the studio out to outsiders using a completely overseas staff that they need to hire over video. surely won't cause any issues for girls.

>>49395998
This board confirmed friendless because this place goes into a fit anytime a vtuber asks if they have real friends KEK

>>49395953
>streamers shouldn't announce the obvious
Is it that difficult to understand?

>>49395953
Vtubers are people you don't know, probably on the other side of the planet, while you're only 1 fan of the thousands. It's feasibly impossible for a vtuber to be your friend.
How is that even controversial? Am I retarded or something for not getting all this deal?

>>49402681
You're not retarded, the shitposters are. "NOT FRIENDS = DON'T CARE ABOUT HER AUDIENCE" which is clearly far from the truth considering she still trucks along exactly like she does before she said the statement. She still does fanservice, she still tries to choose her content to maximize entertainment. She wants her fans to be happy, at the end of the day. That's her goal. But apparently it's not enough because she made the obvious statement that she wasn't friends, even if friends is a very flexible word to begin with where people have different ideas as to what friendship is.

>>49403029
Stop deflecting already cuckling.

Everything was fine until she had to open her mouth. I feel like a cuck after watching her for over more than 1 year.

>>49401382
You obviously came from twitter or reddit. 4chan was always know as a place where highly autistic (which in most cases also means friendless) people gather to talk about their hobbies.
Normalfaggot subhumans like you decided to invade this place and turn it into a drama tranny central.

>>49399670
>first four
no live personal interaction via streamer-chat bantz
>fleshtubers
all parasocial, no such thing as a normal person whose hobby is watching streams
>inb4 "you're just too schizo to get it, maaaan"
Unlike most of this board I have friends who I hang out with plenty, touch grass regularly, and have in fact had sex. Not a single person who actually regularly watches streams is as normal as the people who don't. Not one.
tl;dr cope

>>49402681
What kind of autistic definition do you have for a friend?
For me the only thing required is "do they seem fun enough to grab a beer with?"
There's already 100s of people in my life that I feel like with even if I'm not super close with them. If I were a streamer and had a ton of people that already love to hang around and joke with me, sure why not view them as a friend?
Would they be a good friend? Would they be a close friend? No of course not. But why are retards like you or Fauna having these sky high requirements for friendship in the first place?

>>49408465
I can shoot the shit with my barber, that I visit weekly, it doesn't mean I'm friends with him.

I know, I don't want them telling me
Is it that difficult to understand?
also IRyS is my wife

>>49409312
>I know, I don't want them telling me
This.

>>49395953
You're right, she's my mommy!

>>49397264
PARASOCIAL FUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSS

>>49395953
but they are, reddit. You don't understand this because you don't have a soul because you're reddit.

>>49408522
>that I visit weekly
what?
also, I have literally gone to get drinks with people I only speak to every so often which is just about friend level unless you're a social butterfly who spends as much time hanging out as he possibly can

Fauna gave her definition of friend during her response to the SC. she said it was someone who you share your bad side with. She said she didn't want to show her bad side to chat, but on the flip side she is not someone that people should be going to to trauma dump, and I think that's why she said to cherish your current friends. She cannot be a friend, at least not up to her own standards. It's really not that hard to understand.
Sage because this has been discussed to death.

>>49406884
Same here also have this edit

>>49395998
fpbp

>>49395953
I agree, ironmouse is not your friend and will never be, she only becomes your friend to manipulate you. She is a liar just like Froot and they don't deserve to be in vshojo.

>>49410661
That's a fucking weird definition for friend.
And regardless of what she personally thinks, Fauna is a fictional character that should be able to act like she's friends with her chat.

>>49410928
>Fauna is a fictional character that should be able to act like she's friends with her chat.
I mean, she still gives hugs. She still gives attention. She still reacts to what chat says. She still tries to make people happy. This is why this entire thing is fucking retarded.

>>49410995
She can do all of that but can't say she's your friend. Hilarious.
Why not just lie? It's not like she's actually hugging us, just like we're not actually friends.

>>49395998
FPBP
I've never met a nice person who is also a vegan.
Guess all that 'KINDNESS' towards animals leaves no place for treating humans right.

>>49411479
This, apparently keeping up keyfabe is too much work and she has to give retarded reality checks

Anyone still bitching about this literally doesn't watch Fauna nor do they care, they just want to bitch at something. If you REALLY cared about immersion you wouldn't be constantly harping on about it and you'd just move on to someone else who could provide what you're looking for, not repeatedly give yourself reality checks by complaining about the very thing you wanted to get away from.

forsen is literally my friend

>>49411822
Maybe some of us want her to apologize and go back on what she said

>>49411962
Then you're fucking retarded and literally do not watch her as I said before. She's not going to go back or apologize. Everything she's said, outside of the "not friends" part, is shit she's already said before. Bitching HERE isn't going to change that, and neither is the retarded samefagging on her vod.

>>49411822
I just wanted a mommy tuber who kept up the act.
I know we can't be friends. But it was nice to pretend for a while.

>>49411995
>>49411822
>random CAPITALIZATION
Go back and then kill yourself

>>49412107
It's for emphasis you absolute moron. Nothing random about it.

>>49411995
The no friends part is the most egregious part and she should go back on it, same with projecting that other streamers think like her too

>>49412148
No it isn't, she made it very clear what she meant by not friends just like she made it very clear that she still enjoys her interactions with chat and has made it very clear that she cares about her fans. Just because you plugged your ears after she mentioned the "not friends" part doesn't mean that has changed.

>>49412200
I don't want reality checks from a woman pretending to be an anime girl. Why bring other streamers into it anyway?

>>49412140
Yeah those emphasized words really made your point
GO BACK and then KILL YOURSELF

uuuuuuuuuuuuu
I miss FAUNA!

>>49410746
Thanks

>>49412259
Then why are you still fucking here, still bitching about it, instead of moving on? This is why I'm saying you fags are just here JUST to be mad. If you don't care about getting reality checks move on to someone else and stop shitposting for no fucking reason. Like seriously do you not see how mental you're being?
>I don't want to be given reality checks
>But I'm going to continue to bitch and think about the girl who gave me a reality check!
There are 3 Hololive streams on right now, go watch them. They'll give you exactly what you're asking for.

>>49412570
>more random capitalization
Go back and then kill yourself

>>49412671
Your ad hominems are tiring, you know that?

>>49406884
Last I checked she didn't fuck someone in front of us.

I'm not a zoomer I lived before the internet was everywhere.
The relationship between an idol and a fan is still more intimate than the bond between two male best friends.

>>49395953
my 2view oshi asks me about my day and what I ate every day and calls me her friend

>>49395953
Well maybe if they're like a 2view and you're a consistent person there.

>>49412718
I don't give a fuck what you think faggot

It's insane that Hololive's biggest yab of the year came from fucking Fauna of all people. I know it's mainly being egged on by shit disturbers, but still. They saw the blood in the water and they attacked.

>>49412259
i don't give a fuck what you want. get gatekept, faggot.

>>49412979
>biggest yab of the year
it's a literal nothing burger are you delusional

>>49413057
it is and it isn't.
it's not healthy at all for the fanbase to argue the way it does

>>49412979
Funniest part is she could've sidestepped it so easily.
Western woman just had to drop a reality check.

>>49413106
Literally no one is arguing about this except catalogniggers at this point

>>49413149
Since yesterday there have been 300 comments added to the Minecraft stream, mostly arguing back and forth the same type of rhetoric that's been brought up after EN homos came.

>>49395953
Bunch of retards seething over nothing.

>>49399670
Please don't compare streamers to television and film, thank you

t. /tv/

>>49413212
20 autists timelooping in the youtube comments isn't the biggest yab of the year

>>49412979
that really says a lot about hololive's track record so far if this shit of all things is the "biggest yab".

>>49413231
If it was nothing Fauna should've just said we can be friends

>>49413246
yeah because television like milf mansion is much more sophisticated

>>49412974
neither does fauna so neck yourself already you oversensitive piece of shit tranny

>>49413250
I'm not the anon that said it was the biggest yab of the year.
It's just a nothing burger and not at the same time.
Content won't change but it's bad for HololiveEN

>>49413276
i wasn't nothing; she wanted to gatekeep you specifically. it seems like it's worked too

>>49413276
>>49413363
an example of why it's not a complete nothingburger, that stuff is everywhere on this topic

>>49395953
>"EWWWW YOU STINKY FAT NERDS GET AWAY OF ME"
>"btw don't forget to come next day for my tier 3 member's stream ASMR tee-hee!"
Literal Twitch 3DPD behavior

>>49413212
the vod had 3, 4 comments talking about it at best 5 hours into the VOD being released. all those "300" comments are about as organic as those retards trying to push that suisei and marine were graduating because they tweeted they stayed up until 7 am chatting.

>>49413304
I only watch black and white french films from the 1960s anon.....

>>49413322
>wanting my favorite chuuba to pretend to be my friend makes me a tranny
Nigger what

>>49413408
great post keep it up

>>49413439
I'm not particularly interested in you trying to explain it away, you're free to believe whatever cope you like.

>>49413408
who are you quoting?

>>49413454
>favorite chuuba
Yeah and my favorite is Ollie.

>>49395953
Well I wouldn't call someone a friend if we can only hang out when she wants to, never when I want to (unless it matches with her schedule). A friend who will never respond if you have a shitty day and just want to chat unless it's at the specific time she has scheduled to interact with all of her other "friends" as well as you and might not even respond to you. A friend who will never wish you happy birthday unless you give her money.
So yeah, she's not my friend.

>>49395953
She can log out form the irl server if you know what I mean.

>>49413504
Fauna from two timelines above this one

>>49413509
I too am looking for a new favorite now that it's not Fauna

>>49413335
No it isn't. It's all stuck to one stream therefore it's nothing but timeloops over and over. Aside from 1 or 2 idiots who keep bringing it up in other streams, it really is nothing. Only retards continue bringing it up here because they got their feelings hurt.
Fauna will go on vacation, come back, ignore everything and continue to stream normally.
Schizos will still be stuck on this because they'll still be friendless losers who didn't better their lives like Fauna wanted them too.

You fags bitching are literally no better than twitterfaggots.

>>49413670
woman moment

>>49413482
Remain ignorant and continue crying then you stupid friendless idiot. :)

>>49413751
Are you a woman unironically?
Male friendship isn't intimate, have you had friends wee man?

>>49413276
You're not related to her in any ways you're just a fan and will always be just that a fan know your place cretin.

>>49413929
I love middle tier holos more than I loved the girlfriend I lived with for a year

>>49407137
Autistic man child here, anyone can make friends dude it's more of a "if everywhere you go smells like shit, maybe it's time to check your shoes" situation
Nobody like to hear it but if you can't make friends that entirely on you
Just talk to someone and don't be a condescending asshole/know it all/bitch
You can make friends here as well
if your just going to respond like an ass and insult others don't bother cuz you'll stay friendless as you keep on this trend

>>49414076
Holy shit
Kill yourself you faggot

>>49414076
Seconded. Without even trying, I made a friend on a different board. If you're friendless it's your own fault.

I just want her to apologize.

>>49414228
This

>>49414228
>>49414254
You're going to be waiting a while. Just move on to a different chuuba and accept you were gatekept.

>>49414228
Apologize for what? She did nothing wrong. Grow up lmao

>>49414296
Breaking kayfabe

>>49414228
This.
My stomach has been hurting reading delusional comments on four-chan dot net and it's solely her fault, she needs to apologize.

>>49413454
>favorite chuuba
>is genuinelu surprised she of all fucking people would say what she said
yeah sure thing tranny.
>>49413482
i accept your concesion mr shitstirrer.

>>49414467
>genuinelu surprised
???
Anon I know every chuuba's rm thinks this way. I just want them to keep up the act.

>>49414369
Grow up lol

>>49414467
>I accept your concession anon
you're basically like a tranny

>>49414529
but she didn't, boo hoo big fucking deal, stop shitting up the fucking catalog already and swallow a bullet, it's been like 4 days. are you gonna try cancelling her on twitter next, tranny?

>>49414614
woman moment

>>49414614
you're never going to convince him, he's being disingenuous. it's not even worth trying to use logic.

>>49414665
yeah only women would be bitching about this for 5 days straight saying how much they're hurt instead of moving on, i agree.

>>49396274
It really suprises me that there's people that still think otherwise ever since it became known that their entire on-stream conversations are scripted.

>>49414723
I've literally just been typing words, you're attaching your own emotion to it

maybe /jp/'s /hlg/ was right after all... she is not different from any western woman at the end of the day... i wish i could blame kronii on this one, but in reality this is all my fault for having a minimal pinch of hope...

>>49414534
Improve yourself

>>49414529
>>49414834
Nothing else to say other than it's time for you to find another chuuba.

>>49414795
>i'm not actually hurt i'm just typing words about how what she said was so egregious and that she should go back on it and apologize
>n-not because i'm hurt remember i'm just typing words
>by the way don't use capitalized words they make me angeri
right.

>>49414962
>i'm not actually hurt i'm just typing words about how what she said was so egregious and that she should go back on it and apologize
Who do you think you're replying to exactly?

>>49415065
oh so you just butted into a reply chain to complain about all-caps words and not even take a proper stance about anything and still pretend you were making a point? now you cannot convince me you're not a retarded tranny. die in a fire already and have a good one.

>>49414181
You first
Even better let's do it together as friends!

>>49415176
I said that the content won't change but events like this harm HoloEN because of the type of arguing that's started since HomoEN.
You basically proved my point.

Sapling Defense Force out in numbers for mother's day

>>49415208
That's pretty gay and I'm not a faggot

>>49415238
Been reading the reply chain, if I'm reading correctly at one point you literally replied in the name of the other anon that was bitching about capitalized words, but why?

>>49415238
these threads and this astroturfed controversy will be forgotten in a month, probably even earlier. I doubt it'll have any meaningful impact. It's mainly being propped up by dramasisters. Yes, there are some saplings that were upset by it. A mix of people who actually didn't listen to what she said and instead were baited by the strawman created by dramasisters, and some seriously mentally ill saplings. every fanbase has mentally ill people and I'm tired of pretending that Fauna has to appeal to every single fan. If there are mentally ill people and they're upset by what she said, it's probably better that they're weeded out of the fanbase.

>>49395953
>it took her years to say this
at one point you gotta stop blaming everything on stupidity and start blaming it on malice
they know what they are doing

>>49408465
You've literally never met these people, you will forever lack the most basic of requirements for a friendship with them. You are not friends.

>>49415499
Ceres "I don't ask Myth for any collabs at all to the point it's been a year and a half and I still don' thave 1 on 1's with Mori, Ame, or Ina" Fauna

Ceres "I don't want to be percieved by streamers I like to watch on my free time" Fauna

Literally none of this is surprising.

>>49415499
how is the chuuba telling you "you're never too old to make friends and you deserve a fulfilling and happy friendship, we can still enjoy making content together" being malicious, what the fuck? were your parents hitting you in the head while they were giving you the real talk about how you can't keep up having shit grades?

>>49415426
Not sure exactly which posts you mean but I just replied because I disagreed
>>49415465
I think they need to be more like idols and I don't care about weeding out people, I want more success not less.

>>49415689
>I think they need to be more like idols and I don't care about weeding out people, I want more success not less.
Well looks like it's not your call, it's hers. So it's time for you to accept you were gatekept and find another chuuba.

>>49415736
Gatekeeping is a cope, if HololiveEN loses viewers that watch other Holos it's them being gatekept if anything.

Just gonna drop this here.

>>49415784
Go ahead and use any cope you like to accept the fact you were gatekept. Go be a shitter in some other fanbase.

>>49395998
fpbp

>>49415855
I don't know what you're talking about specifically, I will still watch more Fauna than you in the future.

>>49415689
This one >>49414529
That's a weird thing to disagree on because that other anon was, in fact, pretty shocked at Fauna considering the rest of the replies.

>>49415689
>I think they need to be more like idols and I don't care about weeding out people, I want more success not less.
Literally the ONLY PEOPLE that don't agree with her is this den of mental illness. Everyone else either stayed with her because nothing changed and she's still releasing the same fucking content or moved on because they're retarded who decided to plug their ears and not actually listen to what she had to say. And just because they stop watching her doesn't mean they stop watching everyone else and if they fucking did they never cared much for Hololive in the first place

>>49415385
You do know you can be friends without being gay right? Not everything is about sex anon

>>49414529
can you please answer >>49412570
No one ever seems to be able to

>>49415961
Said it was a woman moment because of the way it was written, very sassy.
>>49415979

>>49415930
I'm specifically talking about this post here where I quoted this anon >>49415736
Just in case if you somehow missed the reply chain

>>49414076
You are actually retarded. There are people so autistic that can barely form sentences in front of others. Like seriously socially retarded just by default. According to you, its their own fault? Covid isolation just piled on top of that.
Also, theres this
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-state-our-unions/202208/whats-behind-the-rise-lonely-single-men
No wonder some people seek...anything really, even if its virtual.

>>49416058
Yeah that anon(me) said these words:
>I don't care about weeding out people, I want more success not less
And you said
>So it's time for you to accept you were gatekept and find another chuuba.
How did it become me? Personally I think its sus to ever want your oshi to lose viewers and then straight after behave the way you're doing

>>49416173
the majority of people here bitching about what Fauna said don't even watch Fauna, there's no loss of viewers. They're here strictly for the drama, and to hold disingenuous arguments with legitimate saplings. It's not worth the effort, I'm just telling them to move on.

>>49416298
Still in the reply chain you said it's fine for her to lose viewers.
"Im personally tired"
"I'm personally tired of pretending numbers aren't important for streamers that are legit idols.

>>49416414
She'll be fine.

>>49416452
What about EN though? Reddit is a shell of its former self after being muted for 24 hours.
The "gatekeeping" you describe happening to the fanbase is completely the wrong people.

>>49416616
>What about EN though? Reddit is a shell of its former self after being muted for 24 hours.
What does this have to do with Fauna? How are you pinning what Fauna said, who literally everyone outside of this board agrees with, to the state of EN?

>>49416616
The gatekeeping is happening to the people continually posting these threads and posting in these threads. it is exactly the right people to gatekeep.

>>49395998
fpbp
>i'm not your friend nor should i ever be
>never meet your heroes
while i agree with parts of her rant, she kinda comes off like someone who thinks you're not worth her time.

>>49416715
>, she kinda comes off like someone who thinks you're not worth her time.
It is literally the fucking opposite did you not actually pay attention to what she was saying or what

>>49416035
Why am I here bitching about it?
Why shouldn't I bitch about it here? It's the vtuber board and a vtuber did something I don't like.

There, someone answered your retarded question for you.

>>49416682
I love Fauna, she can do no wrong.
It wouldn't have blown up the way it did if there wasn't the context of everything else that's happened with other girls.
even sisters, who would never admit to it, are parasocial and salty as fuck about how nijiEN treats them

>>49416777
No, you see, you're still not answering the question. If what she said made you upset, because she "broke your immersion", why do you still let her live in your head rent free and bitch about it instead of moving and and staying your little bubble elsewhere? Why must you keep reminding yourself of it, if it really hurt you that bad

>>49415846
The motorsport analogy is interesting because by refusing to kneel to crash chasers the F1 is actually in a healthier spot viewership wise compared to the sports that catered to those fans. That type of fan is always going to leave after a while once the novelty wears off or if there's too many "boring" races (races in which nobody died).

>>49398399
>Their job is to be an entertainer
and they do a very poor job at it
you and I know the point of the anime avatar
the best hypothetical scenario is not to remove the anime avatar in the current time, but to picture an alternative reality in which they never had the anime avatar in the first place
the anime avatar attracts a specific type of people and everyone knows this
vtubers have more in common with onlyfans girls than they do with tv actors
there's an explicit difference between someone like jerma and someone like amourath even if they inhibit the same streaming space
you can't blame the socially inept for the implicit actions of people profiting from said actions

>>49416988
Exactly, because they were never fans in the first place.

>>49416124
Yep very retarded
A younger cousin of mine has down's syndrome. Like an actual retard, odd face, very little self restraint the works
The little tike slurs their words like one else and can never articulate even at the age of 13. Yet they managed to find friends in school. This is just a sample size of 1 sure but you'd have to be a real cunt if you can't make friends, friend

>>49417152
it's not hard for retards to befriend other retards

>>49416882
No you just didn't like my answer concernfag

>>49417053
>and they do a very poor job at it
I agree with most of what you say apart from this.
EN can be sloppy though.
It's girls singing, dancing and playing video games. Streaming on holiday events like christmas and valentines, fans going to events buying merch and literally masturbating to fanart.
JP are very good at their job.
EN need to do their reps.

>>49417191
Then why can't we be friends?

>>49417053
>and they do a very poor job at it
reminder that girls and the fans have been cucked out of studio time and fun banter like this can't happen on a regular basis

>>49417053
jerma fans are the most autistic faggot people I've ever seen

>>49417053
You've never watched HoloEN if you're going to compare them with Amouranth
Hell I don't even think you watch Vtubers.
Why are you even here

pretty badass thing to say knowing perfectly well she has the EN mommy monopoly
did this actually filter that many retards?

>>49417702
>did this actually filter that many retards?
no

>>49417380
>It's girls singing, dancing and playing video games.
All more poorly than actually good entertainers.
Yes even most of the JPs.

Comedy though they're pretty good at that.

>>49417794
I think you're way too harsh about it.
They get better all the time

>>49417523
Jerma really shat the bed when he chose to side with trannies. I still watch him but his chat is basically unusable and it annoyed even adjacent friends like Vinny.

>>49395953
True, they're my wives.

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>>49418176
She never denounced them. She just said the relationship between her and her fans is not friendship but something else.

>>49417518
sauce?

>>49418176
Source on when Fauna talked about parasocial relationships? Anon who speaks through ChatGPT, please tell me.

>>49395953
the best one in EN is?
also only 4chan virgins care about this

>>49418176
didn't read lol

>>49397264
>You're all my friends!
>I don't hang out with friends, but I hang out with you.
So which one is it? Are viewers her friends or not?

>>49418277
Sounds like denouncing with nicer words

>>49418299
stream(we cant watch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPdJf
clip I made webm from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEDGYVVR5M

>>49418176
nice pasta but it does make me think
traditional medicine and faith-healing used to be better than nothing but now get in the way of real treatment
maybe in a thousand years you will be able to truly befriend the vtuber

>>49395998
Fpbp green woman betrayed us!

>>49395953
To be an annoying pedant I think you can probably make friendships with 2view at most streamers, since it's more of an intimate setting with limited people, easy for the streamer to have a rapport with you if you comment often. But when we're talking hundreds of other people, thousands, tens of thousands? Absolutely not, you can't help but be another faceless mass to the many.

>>49418639
thanks

PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>>49418727
When the vtuber is a fancy chatbot you will and it won't take 1000 years to get there.
Unless the dude who programs it says you can't of course.

>>49419041
>literally the same point but with different language
It hurts

>>49414228
And how will she do that? without breaking kayfabe and ruining your immersion?

>>49418634
She means she doesn't have any irl friends

>>49419134
Disingenuous shitposter.

>>49419088
I'll be lost if VR ever becomes the ideal and you can perfectly feel physical sensations.
Battle a dragon to save the gang of anime lolis and eat them myself.

>>49419166
Almost as disingenuous as a streamer who hugs you in ASMR but won't call you a friend

>>49419277
I don't want to hear this from the faggot who literally refuses to listen to what she had to say.

>>49419323

this thread is now about posting smug faunas
>>49419376
very nice

>>49395998
Yeah me

>>49395953
https://youtu.be/sH0Qda32IKM

>>49419394

>>49395953
Do not hate the saplings for their ignorance. Rather, pity them in their denial of reality

>>49419394

>>49419520
>>49419518
>>49419467

>>49419533

>>49419320
It doesn't matter, she should've just lied or dodged the question.

>>49419543
>should've
She didn't. End of question. Move on.

I don't have a smug, here's a cute.

Looks like it's time to close with the Sapling Prayer.

Fauna didn't say we aren't friends.
And if she did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, it isn't her fault.
And if it was, she didn't mean it.
And if she did, you deserved it.

>>49419520
wow, that neck on the one in the background. would not want to mess with her.

>>49419725
It's not even an edit either. Just very (un?)fortunate positioning.

>>49419704
this but unironically
I love my wife Fauna

>>49419142
Something like she got carried away at the moment that day and she wasn't thinking at all, anything, I don't care if it's a lie...

>>49420001
Except she did that the first fucking time and now all you guys do is bitch about muh immersion. Just shut up and move on

>>49420001
this thread is about smug fauna's now, we're past that part of the thread

Cool Fauna
Hope she has a nice vacation with her mom

>>49420104
same, I hope she has a nice relaxing time. she earned a vacation.

>>49419799
I think the slightly thicker look is good, Mio in particularly should be a little thicker

how will cucklings cope now that she's going on vacation with her "mom"?

>>49420960
Play videogames until she gets back and praying Cover isn't retarded and approves all her shorts. Hope you enjoy your oshi's streams though!

>>49420960
imagine doubting something like that

>>49421101
why bother watching streams and knowing how much Fauna dotes on her parents when you can just constantly read rrats

>>49421408
B-but Fauna isn't close enough to her chat to talk about her family

>>49421408
yeah but it applies to all vtubers too, if you'd doubt something like that you'd probably not believe anything they say.
couldn't be me

Reminder

>your oshi will graduate
>they will resurface in vshojo
>they will get the awful puppeteer corporate artwork
>they will shill the talent freedom
>they will always be on twitch
>they will be clipped by ENVtubersOOC on twitter for doing literally anything
>they will get their model by Squeaky and rigged by Iron Vertex
>they will get the awful same face artgun 3D model
>they will proclaim their love of froot, kson and zentreya as the best vtubers in existence
>they will forget about all those that helped them and worked with them in the past
>they will collab with orbiters like snuffy
>they will do things with former vshojos like veibae and nyanners
>they will date the male flesh tubers
>they will obsessively change their models
>they will become lewdtubers in order to fit in
>they will hate the evil wizard game
>they will trash talk other vtubers and not be reprimanded for it
>they will work with and donate to bad charities
>they will cause drama and get away with it because they are part of vshojo
>when you find a new oshi, they too will eventually do the same as the above
This is your future. There is no turning back. There is nothing you can do to stop this.

>>49421732
I will create a scary national emergency to stop this

>>49395953
She'd be wrong because Fubuki is my friend and Nene is my wife and Watame is my family.

>>49420960
>>49421732
lmao are jannies in full damage control mode or something

>>49396274
ehh actually watch some streams falseflagger
there has been kino here and there