/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49322333
>Where did it go so wrong for her?
Gamer girl syndrome. Instead of realizing that a girl should just be a cute sidekick in a game and not take it too seriously, she made gamer her entire personality and how she connects to online friends which is why she comes across as being so tryhard and so fragile when her ego gets bruised.

Is she saying that she's going to leave niji when her contract is up?

>>49322492
As a dragon I fucking hope so

>>49322401
I can smell your sweat from here

>>49322492
No, that is anon reading too much into it. She is just realistic about the fact that vtuber corpo careers don't last long and she needs to reach pred before her time is up. Nothing more is being said.

>>49322492
What else would she mean? Nijisanji being about to lose Apex perms seems less likely.

>>49322333
>"boy it sure would be nice if I hit pred while I'm still in nijisanji, this is my last chance to hit pred while I'm in nijisanji, maybe I can get it again later but not while I'm in nijisanji. because the option to get pred will still be there after I am not in nijisanji."

How long are Apex seasons again? She seems intent on leaving pretty fucking soon if this is her last chance to do it "while in nijisanji" .. either that or she knows she'll get too busy with other stuff to play it much soon.

>>49322333
I know she got pred before joining Niji but does she not understand skill inflation and how the longer a game is around the better the player base gets at the game? You can see skill inflation effect specifically on a lot of older FPS or shooter games like CoD, Rainbow Six, CS:GO, Fortnite, Overwatch, PUBG, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if she struggles just to stay in Diamond and if she couldn't get it yet then it's probably going to be impossible for her.

they are making adjustment to the new season ranking system to make it harder

>>49322523
You mad that he spoke fax, roastie?

>>49322773
>they are making adjustment to the new season ranking system to make it harder
that makes the most amount of sense
thanks for the info anon

>>49322876
Incelchama, there's a good reason nobody likes you

WTF is a "pred"?

>>49322731
This season is apparently relatively easy for pred, especially if you rrat. Idk if ratting is entertaining for stream though

>>49322333
SELEN PLEASE SAVE THE HOLOEN SIDEBRANCH I RESPECT YOU SO MUCH

>>49322773
That's not true, you can literally just rat your way up, it's much easier now lol

>>49322961
It's a nickname for men who use discord.

>>49322958
You should go back to plebbit lil bro

>>49322547
>She is just realistic about the fact that vtuber corpo careers
... In other words, she's leaving Niji lol

>>49322523
Are you a fucking dog or something?

>>49323069
Everyone is leaving Nijisanji eventually anon. I don't know how to make this any clearer for dumb as fuck anon who like to spin narratives for shitposting and little else.

>>49322547
So she's really graduating..

>>49322333
Why do everyone think she going to leave do you fags have something wrong with you that everything is 100% mean someone is leaving to join the Hololive because anything that not the great Hololive is evil and bad

>>49322722
3 months, which matches her second anniversary and possibly when she has to decide if she'll renew her contract.

>>49322722
New season literally just started. Kek.

>>49323153
I don’t know why you chimped out in this post, but the way she wrote her sentences sounds ominous, whether by accident or intentional.

>>49323126
last chance? this early in her career? or is she just pity baiting again? What do you think as you seem ti be her fan. ESL moment from her?

>>49322977
ay this guy isn't the Selen marriage schizo! What did you do to him?

>>49323251
>NOOOOO SHE IS LEAVING BECAUSE THE VOICES SAID SO!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>49323327
I’m sorry that you are illiterate, but I do hope you’ll find the means to rid yourself of such a bane.

It's just a tweet describing how Respawn fucked up the ranked pointing and how easy climbing became this season as long as you grind endlessly and play for placement. But I still won't stop spewing rrats because it's funnier.

>>49323153
For starters, she never posts on her RM Twitter and right when she tweeted about contest and management thing happened, she actually went back to it to say she is tired.

It's May, which coincides with her RM quitting and 2 months later, Selen debuted.
Not that difficult to see around this time of year is when she got approved and signed for Niji.
Its the same with the likes of Zaion and few others. 2 months between quitting their RM, then debuting under Niji.

Then you have that Lulu also got a new outfit before graduating. Now that Selen brings up the ticket, it makes sense as to why Lulu got one despite leaving.

It explains why Niji refuses to really support her contest in any shape or form if she'll leave anyway . So of course they use the opportunity to have fans rake in new designs for free.

Selen leaving also makes sense as to why she suddenly wants this contest or why she pays out her own pocket.
She'll leave by not just goodbye but actually gives something back.
Its also a middle finger to Niji management.

Some other things already pointed out by anons or the fact its just drama after drama now.
Who even knows if Fulgur is actually off sick or got some huge suspension.

>>49323656
See >>49323431

I took it as she doesn't want to keep playing fucking Apex forever, and will probably lay off it after this season. One last push before she swears off of it, as Selen at least.

>>49323746
Do you see me disagree with the last part?

>>49323746
I mean lulu anyone?

Who would possibly be genuinely upset if Selen graduated?
>dragoons would have a happier oshi who is less exploited
>nijicorpsisters would finally push out their most hated chuuba
>other en corpo fans might get her in their corpo
>her coworkers would finally nut up and confront whether or not they want to stay at the company
>selen herself will finally have her efforts appreciated and no longer have piled on stress from the management fuck-fuck games
When her graduation comes, I say we throw a party. Everyone is invited.

>>49322333
This is literally cars 3. Selen I know that you are /here/ please accept that you're probably getting rusty and that shit never gets better once you're downhill.

>>49322958
I like him, you stupid faggot buzzword spamming dumbfuck

>>49323656
Nijifags in denial because without Selen all they've got left is declining fujobait, clique members and Punished Pomu.

More reasons for Selen to quit than stay at the moment.
Niji needs her more than she needs them.
One shit story after another.
Who knows what actually happened to Ike and Fulgur.
Management are both liars and incompetent.
Shit merch revenue share.
Vox, Ike and Mysta essentially already exposed management has no issue to cancel an event by using Covid as excuse.
No 3D in sight that could act as a reason to stay.

>>49322731
>does she not understand skill inflation and how the longer a game is around the better the player base gets at the game?
I'm pretty sure that's why she tweeted that lol

>>49324095
And if you anyone wants to bring up
>But the money she makes
She has enough credit to her name to flourish on her own. If she makes her own merch to sell, she'll make more. And no Supa cuts to Niji.
Sounds like there are a myriad of reasons for her to go off on her own.
If she pisses off management by supporting artists despite them originally not even wanting that, even better.

And when she doesn't leave you will still say she will

>>49323153
>Hololive mention out of no where
Every fucking time

>>49323858
>Graduation
Probably never
>Termination
100%

>>49324178
bunch of penny-pinchers nijisanji is, so much for the richest vtubing corporation.

>>49324287
To be fair she has been mentioned in combination with EN3 all over the fucking catalog for two days now.

>>49324268
Of course! And if lucky, drama tubers cover it and embarass themselves when it aint happening.
>Niji Talent showing signs of graduation after company controversies

I wonder if Dragoons are aware that if they actually would care about Selen, then following her own path is absolutely better for her in every way.
Would make more money, is her own manager, free from the yab machine and stealth suspensions.

>>49322333
Aiming for pred this season is like losing virginity to 65 y/o hooker

>>49322961
top rank in Apex i think

>>49324646
Top 750.

>>49322517
>dragon

These dragons are really dropping like flies out here

I feel very, very out of the loop.

What heat does she have with Niji management? The "exploitation and mistreatment" being mentioned ITT?

>>49324408
being an indie isn’t a walkmin the park too. She unironically need mods and managers. Kinda what twitch people are doing. Hard but not impossible

>>49324690
deez

>>49324839
NOOOOOOO.
YOU CANT SAY THAT.

>>49324810
selen has been feeling down lately…. Not even bait. Management has not been very good to her. Happens to HoloEN too but this is more fucked up and just plain weird, maybe jap companies are like that. This is a bait thread though.

>>49322967
Haha noooooope

>>49324810
She made a contest for people to design her new outfit, the top 5 get $1000 each and the winner gets turned into her new outfit. Except that management refused to fork any cash for it so Selen will have to pay $5K out of pocket for the contest.

>>49325312
More than that
The contest term of service is completely garbage. Basically, all art submitted to the contest automatically become Nijisanji's property, regardless if you win or not. They straight up say that they can use your art for promotion, merch, or w/e without needing reimburse or even credit the artist. Moreover, artist cannot even change their mind and back out of the competition
Holo has a similiar contest this year for their swimsuit and they only claim the right to the art of the winner IF the winner decides to claim their money prize, effectively selling the art to Holo for a very good price.

>>49325424
It's over people for people of anycolor, the only color they knew was black all along...

>>49325424
Selen is an artist herself, so I imagine she was livid over the scummy TOS too

She probably won't leave but it'd be unsurprising if she did

>>49322333
Tempus jobber energy rubbed off on her
She will never reach success again

>>49325657
>Discussion about Selen
>bringing homostars to the fold
Are you a fucking faggot for having them living rent free inside your head?

>>49322333
It's because it's easy to rank up with the new rank changes but they will be probably patched new season. Also the start of the season is the only time lower ranked people can touch pred since all the better players haven't filled the 750 places yet.
I don't think it has anything to do with her future in nijisanji. I say this as a holofag who watches apex chuubas. Not some nijidrone.

>>49325694
But I'm not wrong

>>49323321
He's been enlightened by the positives of adoring hags.

>>49325964
YOU DON'T UNDERSATND LOOK LOOK!!!
>>49323656

If she leaves nijien is over, sucks to have so much hanging over you.

>>49322547
>Mito going on 5 years, Sora and Gen 1 at or going on 5 years, 2-gamers nearly 5 years, myth going on 3 years other talents in niji pushing 3-5 years, iron mouse going on 3 years with vshojo.
These seem pretty long to me considering they all plan to go longer. Average sports and idol career is also 5-7 years but sure we can pretend that’s not long. Coping with excuses because you want to defend a no talent whore. Hopefully she stays indie wouldn’t like her in hololive

selen is cool but she should quit being a nijinigger

>>49324810
The recent issue surrounding how NijiEN management handled the contest has pretty much been summed up by anons already, as has been how she went on her roommate account to tweet out “Tired” out the blue, about an hour after she said she’ll give out 5000 US dollars in prize money.
Things probably aren’t great at the company. It’s also been said she has XSOLEIL’s manager now, which isn’t a good sign because Zaion mentioned in her doc that he was a greenhorn with only 2 weeks of experience when she came on board. And if he’s that petty and spiteful to her, it’s a certainty that he’s not making Selen’s life any easier since he knows the talents will take the heat when things go wrong.

Don't forget sometimes a pen is just a pen and not proof she is leaving

>>49322333
get boosted in apex. ok

>>49322547
So she's saying Nijisanji is gonna be dead by next year?

>>49322773
I can see that, players getting to their appropriate rank too fast means they spend less time playing.

>>49329217
Normally you are right especially with how the talents joke about graduation, but so many things are adding up and the company is already declining so quickly in quality that it’s only a matter of time before it happens. It happened at NijiKR where people left and bad talked management, it happened at NijiJP, people are now leaving NijiID, and they’ll leave NijiEN on possibly a down note.

>>49322333
Selen said that she has 7% of her viewers coming from SEA. But a majority of the Selen concern posting is during SEA hours.
How the fuck does that work?
Are SEA dragoons just way more womanly concernfaggy?

>>49329388
People just shitpost more when no ones streaming, its not that deep

>>49324839
Ummm sir, that's a problematic word. Please don't say it, sir.

>>49322333
>Niji
>What went wrong?
Niji

>>49329382
Or you're just looking for things that not there

>>49323858
>Who would possibly be genuinely upset if Selen graduated?
Ppomu, and therefore pomudachis.

>>49322333
she paid the artists with money instead of exposure

Nobody from the first 4 waves is leaving. The moment one of them leaves it's going to trigger domino effect and others know that. A disadvantage of all of them knowing eachother or being friends in past lives. Except Nina, I guess. So others Livers will unintentionally or intentionally guilt trip those who want to leave into staying.

>>49322492
If that was the plan then she wouldn't be spending 1000 dollars on an art competition.

>>49322333
JUST
LET
HER
WIN

>>49322333
If NijiEN loses her, there'll be close to none good soul in this company's en side. Last one would be Ike/Pomu, rest is ass

>>49329083
>Mito going on 5 years
Why do anons always seem to forget the rest of the first wave? Mito isn’t the only one of them past the five year mark now.

>>49322333
>It will be a dream to be able to just see pred again, but in nijisanji
Sounds like she's ready to exit the company for greener pastures.

It's over, another vshojo candidate right here

>>49331109
I see it as possible, look at it as a "Goodbye Present to her community" of sorts. It would at least explain why Management was so stingy that she had to pay off her own pocket, Anykara may just not want to drop cash on a talent that isn't renewing her contract.

>>49322547
>Don't last long
It only don't last long when the income is shit
If she get millions for being a Vtuber she will stay as long as she can.

>>49325312
If the graduation rrat is true who wants to bet one of the runners up ends up as a reincarnation.

>>49323858
>Who would possibly be genuinely upset if Selen graduated?
Not me that's for sure. I felt a wave of relief for sayu when she streamed earlier this week and it was clear that everything is likely over and she's better off out than in.
I'll feel exactly the same for Selen, she deserves SO much better than this circus of a corpo.

>>49322977
with the amount of men in her streams i doubt she will have success there

>>49329217
It's also the first time she was active on her RM account since forever.
The signs are already there, bro. Stop being in denial.

>>49333824
See you next week when she is still here

>>49324810
Niji talents are apparently underpaid.

>>49329654
I would love for Selen to prove me wrong and has me feeling BTFO’d like a schizoid with his rrats disproven. But with all the drama surrounding NijiEN as of late, both internally and in public involving the livers as we constantly see with Kyo/Enna/Finana, it’s hard not to feel like sooner or later things will come to a head.
I’m pretty much expecting this being a situation like Gibara/Lulu/Nun Bora/Yuya, where they got new outfits or live 2.0 updates, and then 6 months later or so they announce that they’re leaving the company.

>>49322492
She went to stream on her rm account and said she was tired of the shit the management has put her through.

>>49334263
>underpaid.
Hololive poisoned this community's brain. Just because HoloEN is making millions doesn't mean NijiEN are underpaid.

>>49335724
Kuzuha saying he barely makes a thing off of merch in 2019 and Mysta complaining about only making 1% from merch in 2023 is proof enough that the company is taking advantage of them.

>>49335724
There was a time when Hololive was not so successful. Do you claim that their merch cut was much lower then? How much more successful does Nijisanji have to be for the talents to get a better cut?

>>49335724
1% cut from merch is underpaid. Doesn't matter how much they make from supas, a cut that equates to 100:10,000 Dollars is unacceptable.

>>49336227
Yet both of them are richer than 99% of people of their respective countries. That's hardly underpaid.

>>49336618
That's a weird logic. If they were getting 1% from everything then sure. But merch is just one of many revenue streams for them. You can argue that it's bs that EN's merch money goes to supporting NijiJPs and their 3D events instead of ENs but that's a different kind of problem.

>>49325424
Instagram and possibly other social media sites do something similar except the key difference is they don’t own your work, they just have a license to use it if you post it on their site. Why Nijisanji just doesn’t go with that, I don’t fucking know.

>>49336956
From what I understood it's even worse since say you designed a nongeneric but actually unique concept for an outfit. Well, too bad Anycolor owns that whole design now.

>>49331586
Because no one fucking cares anon.

No one gives a SHIT

You don't even care either, you just wanna flex your trivial nothing knowledge about something no one fucking cares about. Faggot.

>>49322333
joining nijisanji

She's gonna burnout so bad on this, but good luck regardless.

>>49322585
perms for a f2p game?

>>49322517
as a faggot, more like. you catalog trannies can't even falseflag right, must the E pills.

>>49322333
the only pred she's gonna be touching is me

>>49322333
What's the rrat? What's this about?

>>49343383
the rrat is "i hate nijisanji so i'm making shit up"

Selen doesn't deserve this shit.

>>49322492
>>49322547
Selen debuted on 18th July 2021.
Assuming contracts are formed 2-3 months before debut, if she's leaving she will announce it this month or the next.
If not, her next chance to leave will be 2 years from now.
I don't think she's leaving though, why would she spend 5k on a fucking outfit contest that stays with Nijisanji if she didn't want to stay long term?

>>49345927
>2 years from now
I hope she has people she trusts that can give her some objective feedback and tell her to jump shit and join Hololive. She'll be harassed by a lot of NijiEN fans but she'll be way more appreciated for her efforts by everyone.

>>49335155
Anything specific?

>>49346076
Its not like it matters since the irony is that NijiEN fans pretty much treat it as the Luxiem hour ft NijiEN. They dont watch any of the other talents.

Selen seems to be the only one fed up with Niji's shit management or are there more?

>>49347068
It does mean that Selen’s fans are her own. They don’t watch her because she has the rainbow pacman next to her name, in fact they often watch her in spite of it. It’s similar to how Sayu ended up with such a strong following, funny enough the neglect from management and the rank favoritism has made a lot of the girls’ fanbases completely independent from the box.

>>49345927
>why would she spend 5k on a fucking outfit contest that stays with Nijisanji if she didn't want to stay long term?
Well, there was a chuuba that Selen would know who got an entirely new outfit 3 days before announcing her graduation, and that chuuba said that even thought it may seem like a waste of money it was still important to her. Plus, a contest wherein people win money does seem like a good 'thank you' before leaving.

>>49333824
This is bait.

>>49325424
Not likely,
>>49325424

>>49348125
Don't remind me....

I don't like it when Selen play games with men

>>49348655
I don't like it when Selen plays games with my heart

>>49322492
no, she's old and busted, power creep in apex is insane, she doesn't have time to get really good again because of her streaming job and current changes to apex ranked might enable players to reach ranks they had no hopes of reaching previously

>>49335724
I'm sick and tired of these corpo bootlickers. Rather than defending your oshi and help them have better income you prefer to torture them by supporting the company who treat them like money cattle.
This is abusive mentality. You believe that them getting peanut is okay because "Without the corpo, they're nothing!"

This is the same vibe as that televangelist Kenneth Copeland who keep asking for money while he fly around with private jets and have tons of houses all over the US. His excuse for not flying commercial? The passengers aren't Christian enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtF34MrsfI

>>49323253
>Selen
>ESL
Anonchama.......

>>49336697
>Richer
Is that your only excuse?
Riku Tazumi and his shareholders are WAY more richer.
This is like saying "This man can afford a shirt, a pants, and a pair of shoes while his/her peers are naked. That's good enough for him!" while Riku sitting in his yacht.

>>49347320
qrd?

>>49347320
Remember when a lot of livers start tweeting stuff after Anykara canceled the concert due to "covid"
It's really hard to ignore that. It's pretty obvious there's a lot of passive aggressiveness toward the management.
>>49348722
lol why this sounds like a cheesy 90s pop song.

>>49347320
Pomu seems to be pretty low in energy lately but if she has any problems with management, she'd be one of the last in NijiEN to bring it up, or even imply it.

>>49330637
Pomu would be happy she finally doesn't have to deal with her. She's been trying for months to offload Selen onto Finana because she doesn't wants to be anywhere near her and would rather hang out with Elira's clique.

>>49349473
Pomu's been acting the opposite in both regards. Not only has she been high energy in her latest streams, but she is not hiding her problems with EN staff anymore. Hell, just yesterday, she was talking about the new Lazulight song, and said that the three of them had to fight staff in order to get the song. They had to meet staff face-to-face in Japan with their proposal, and continued to pester staff about it weekly for months after, until they finally said OK (staff were probably hoping the girls would drop the subject). She wouldn't be bringing stuff like that up if she was trying to defend EN staff.

It feels like management are trying to assert authority over the talents. But doing it in a forceful and hard way. Being inflexible and tough. Maybe it's one bad egg in management? Maybe Enna and others in her clique are sucking up to management to avoid issues where they think you are disloyal or rocking the boat. Whereas more independent talents end up causing friction with the bad apple in management who then is excessively using their authority to try and "hammer the nail sticking out" back in.
Seems like a real bad egg in charge at the management level.

>>49351059
So we're looking at the birth of NijiEN Resistance then?

>>49351151
I hope so, although it really shouldn't have to be this way. It really shows how lazy EN staff are, when they would rather sit back and rake in merch money, instead of actively trying to promote the branch with events and music. (yes yes, I know about AR Live. It was always too ambitious for EN staff to handle. they should have focused first on things the livers can do from home, like event streams and music releases, instead of immediately shooting for the AR Live moon, only to come crashing down)

>>49351151
Civil War.

>>49351059
>>49351151
I guess Zaion's open (doc) letter finally broke the camel's back.
Good for them, they deserve better.
See, this is going to the right direction.

>>49351059
I seem to recall someone in NijiEN made implications Shu got into a shouting fight with management but god help me to remember who said it.
Knowing his loose tongue, maybe Mysta but take it with a grain of salt.

>>49351059
>NOOOOOOOOOO THE TALENTS SHOULD STAY QUIET OR JUST QUIT, THEY ARE ADULTS AND THIS IS HOW A REAL CORPORATION WORKS STOP IT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49352419
I think it was around the time Yugo graduated cause it did come up with the whole "We fought for Yugo".

>>49323110
>Are you a fucking dog
Wrong word order

>>49322333
Wounded pride from sucking massive ass in the Vtuber tournament.

>>49351059
>the three of them had to fight staff in order to get the song.
lol wut? Can't the girls just do the song on their own? Myth's second original Non-Fiction was entirely done by the girls lead by Mori. Only real issue is that Mori had to pay for all the expenses.
Either Pomu and the girls are fucking poorfags or Management is draconian as fuck. probably both

>>49352684
This. She got put in her place and is feeling it.

>>49352465
Yes.

>>49352419
>>49352499
You might be thinking about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkbrEopGt3A

tl;dw Six months ago, Reimu said she had never heard Shu raise his voice, which happened in some situation that she refuses to elaborate on "or else [she'll] get fired."

https://files.catbox.moe/ygajt2.webm

how dumb is she, really?

Last time I felt so sure of a graduation was Sana

>>49352948
the cute kind of dumb

>>49352707
If the company can tell Selen she can't pay out of her own pocket for her contest, then they can probably tell Lazulight they can't pay for a new song out of their own pocket.

>>49335724
Even bands contracted for a label makes 10%~20% on merch sales.

>>49351059
Thank fuck, it's good to see that the talents are tired of being push overs.
Its still sad that it had to come to this though, management even if they were incompetent didn't seem to be as shitty and malicious as they are now. But its better late than never that the talents start fighting back, especially since it's now in the back of people's minds that stealth suspensions are an occurence.

>>49352707
The girls doing the song on their own would mean they would have to foot the bill and manage the project themselves, versus the company handling the work. Plus it wouldn't be "official", because the company wouldn't be the ones releasing it. An official company release means it will immediately hit streaming services, will be available at karaokes, can be used for promotion by the company, etc.

>>49351059
Main branch obviously wants EN to stay out the limelight and just be support characters

>>49353974
I mean even wrestlers make at least 5% off merch.

>>49323861
Is tis meant to be ironic?

>>49322333
Yeah, it's over for the idiots like OP, while the one who knows the meaning of this tweet will know that they have to see Selen hiding on the tree for several hours.

>I'm gonna get Pred
>by playing with 2 pros and ratting all season using the new broken system
She does know this won't make her look good to people who think she's a shitter at APEX right?

>>49354609
She's doing it for bragging rights. She doesn't care about her content going shit.

>>49352239
ALL OUT (civil) WAR

>>49354191
>it will immediately hit streaming services, will be available at karaokes, can be used for promotion by the company, etc.
this happens with like every holo original not made by the company

>>49323321
What are you talking about, anon? That's a picture of Selen

>>49355539
Not the case at NijiEN. Sometimes a liver's individual orisong hits streaming services at the same time as release, but oftentimes not (Rosemi's song took 7 months until it hit streaming/digital storefronts), and they don't seem to hit karaokes or get used in promotions.

>>49352948
she's a fucking retard

>>49354609
They brought this up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RkapfBYIfc&t=60s
Also if you're still confused this may help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk

>>49354191
>would mean they would have to foot the bill and manage the project themselves, versus the company handling the work.
Anon they do most of it themselves anyway.

>>49352465
Yes, that's what management wants anyway

Management, more like man-a-gay-men-t

>>49322492
Here's hoping.
Selen's talent and heart are wasted on a black company like Nijisanji I hope that when she leaves she'll manage better off as an indie.

>>49359784
No, because the livers aren't the ones who would have to reach out to external parties (composer, lyricist, mixer, etc.) to arrange everything, it would be on the company to handle it. All the livers would have to do is sing their part.

>>49336956
>Why Nijisanji just doesn’t go with that, I don’t fucking know.
Greed and apathy towards the fans of their talents.

>>49346076
It's 'jump ship' you ESL

>>49360261
Movie, illustration, live2d are all handled by Livers themselves. Mixing too probably since Ike slaves as one. The exceptions are debut songs.

>>49336697
>Yet both of them are richer than 99% of people of their respective countries
Mysta talked about how working for Mcdolands is actually a very good gig.
Besides the trips they go on there's no telling what their cut of SC are. They could be living anywhere between lower-upper middle class.

>>49360616
Nigga read the fucking reply chain. We're talking about company-funded songs like the debut songs, Luxiem's 2nd song, and now Lazulight's 2nd song. Not the liver's personal orisongs/covers.

>>49360453
Well if you have a good chunk of fans that are very vocal in drowning anything that shatters their fantasy bubble and would eat up anything you pull why would they care? Twitterfags are still numberfaging perfumes and other merch despite knowing that a Liver would get like 80 bucks from it.

>>49360646
>lower-upper middle class.
Not bad for being a vtuber on the Internet.

>>49345927
>Get new outfit
>Announce graduation within weeks after it
Happens all the time in the vtuber world.

>>49322333
Seconds after signing nijisanji contract

>>49362470
The contest is only for the outfit design, it's gonna take another year for the actual L2D art and rigging to be complete. She'll still be in NijiEN for at least another year.

>>49352948
Being a retard is a prerequisite for being a corpo vtuber.

>>49323746
>>49323431
Why not wait for the next season when the devs will inevitable back track on this decision and get pred then?

>>49363530
It'd take more time and effort to get pred then, and she doesn't want to become an APEX-only streamer. Getting pred now is quicker & easier, so that she can return to streaming other stuff sooner.

>>49363530
She can't wait to end her contract

>>49322333
Boosted bitch

>>49322333
>this season, on this day might be my only chance to touch pred in nijisanji
>this season on this day
The fuck does this mean? Is it "I only have today" or "I was told today"?
Is this my ESL moment?
cute numbers

>>49362607
And what makes you think the outfit from the contest will become an actual costume?

>>49368762
usually your rank is what you end the season on. for pred, you lose it once you fall out of the top 750 or so. it's hard for her to grind the entire season, but at the beginning when few are playing, it's not that hard to enter top 750 briefly (aka "touch" it) but she will probably end the season back in masters

>>49348895
Didn't he also say that flying on his private jet lets him hear God better? lol

>>49369180
Because that's what it states in the contest advertisement and rules.

>>49325424
They already changed the terms of service for the competition. The main thing they're worried about is accidentally giving the rights away of Selen's character to the contestants. The new language puts emphasis on the contestants still owning any new parts (the outfits).

>>49323858
i am upset that the first time i see my drawings in the wild it's a 400x600 and i am here to correct this error.

>Everyone screaming graduation bait
>5 minute of researching show that this season is easier to reach Pred due to new changes to rank.
Never change /vt/

>>49362470
gibara literally did that

>>49372882
why say the "during nijisanji" part then.

>>49373063
Because the main thing holding back anyone good in Apex from reaching high rank is time. The thing Selen (and pretty much every corpo vtubers) bitch about the most is not having enough free time, either that or management.
I seriously doubt Selen would hint at graduation in a fucking Apex tweet.

I like Selen. Try to come to EN3 pls. Plenty of Holos and Stars that like Apex. Can do all the projects that you desire and will fit right in.

>>49322333
>Where did it go so wrong for her?

Nijifags are at the moment preparing for so many graduations
>Selen with the "my only chance for a fan-outfit", "Tired" tweet, lack of Obsydia 3d and this tweet
>Reimu because she's been shitting out streams recently, something she never did and given the timing Ethyria contracts are about to be up for renewal
>Mysta is menhera up the ass and seems to hate being a vtuber, wishes he was a fleshie instead. Has openly talked about how he has nothing left he really wants to do. Could easily be convinced to graduate and "make it as an indie" like Yugo
>Shu has been putting in zero effort since he debuted and would probably fuck off first chance he got if he wasn't desperate for Elira pussy
>Vox could be convinced easily if someone convinces him how "Vox" is poison now as a brand and to just restart it all as an indie
>Fulgur could graduate due to health reasons like Siska did

>>49375362
>Vox graduate soon
Doubt it. He still raking in money. No point in leaving at his higest point.

>>49322876
>>49323047
>>49323110
Snowflakes

>>49322333
>It's over
oh dear

>>49379771
Truthfully Vox and Selen are the ones I can really see making it fine on their own post NijiEN. Vox in particular has the voice and actual comedic timing for it.

>>49375362
>Fulgur graduates for literally being too fat
I wanna live in that reality more than anything else lmao

>>49383288
I guess his diet didn't do as good as he expected .

>>49322492
No, it's because this season of Apex is actually stupid and lets you reach Pred without getting a single kill. The rank system gives you a bunch of points for just surviving and only a few for kills. You just have to spam games, play like a rat and you'll rank up. This ranking system is going away after this season. She's soft admitting she knows she's not that good. If she doesn't get pred this season, she knows it will only confirm it.

>>49345927
Lazulight & Obsydia were signed at the same time, so that'd be Feb/Mar, meaning that her chance to graduate this year has already passed, if contracts are renewed around every 2 years.

>>49383106
Yeah, but her market is very volatile.
When he's indie I don't think he can handle it if he make some mistake and there's no legal team to protect him.

>>49385073
Its difficult to tell how exactly Niji's legal team is even protecting either Vox or Selen. They couldn't take down the doxsite after all.

>>49348895
> Copeland

>>49384360
Two more years of NijiEN Selen then, let's gooo...

>>49386335
nice

>>49322333
>join stream because its still live for some reason
>goes to on a pee break. AFK from game
>comes back and teamate tells her crucial information about the match
>HAHAHAHA BRO YOU LYING TO ME HAHAHAHAHAHA
>dies

yeah bitch you'll touch that real soon

Whilst I hope she isn’t graduating….not going to lie the evidence is pointing towards it happening. I can see and understand why, but it’ll still be a shame that it happens.

Too all another dragoons who may see this thread, I’d start preparing for the worst.

>>49392236
>it’ll still be a shame that it happens.
Why would it? She'd almost certainly turn up as an indie after. You should be happy to see her escape from the horrible NijiEN environment instead.