/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>49289619
Abby my beloved...

HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD

Fauna doko

Bros...
>>49289496

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>111,013: Hibari (Nijisanji)
>103,286: Lisa (VSPO)
>94,581: Sumire (VSPO)
>89,113: Noah (VSPO)
>18,668: AZKi (Hololive)
>14,714: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,929: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,407: Chiroru (Indie)
>11,260: Koyori (Hololive)

Unicornchads run this thread

>>49289725
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time
12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 111,013 - 3D Debut

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
3x: Marine
2x: Pekora
1x: Hibari, Koyori

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
100x: Hololive
23x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
37x: Pekora
13x: Marine, Miko
6x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>One moment please while I initiate the CGDCT bots and fauna wanking bots. Sorry for the inconvenience anon-tachi.

>>49289723
You think I can't read the other replies?

>>49289728

CGDCT THREAD
CGDCT BOARD

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>5/12 DAILY TALLY
8,656: IRyS (Hololive)
7,730: Mumei (Hololive)
6,937: Ina (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)
12) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,656 - Super Smash Bros. (w/ Kronii)

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: IRyS
3x: Fauna
1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia, Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
26p: IRyS
15p: Fauna, Mumei
13p: Mori
9p: Ina
5p: Luca, Gura, Amelia, Baelz
4p: Shu
1p: Kiara

>>49289778
>He needed to read the replies

>>49289849

>>49289849
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
95x: Hololive
35x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
13x: Mori, IRyS
12x: Fauna
10x: Gura
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Ina, Amelia
7x: Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara, Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
127p: Fauna
103p: IRyS
96p: Mori
93p: Mumei
92p: Ina
84p: Baelz
64p: Vox
60p: Amelia
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
49p: Kiara
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
22p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

The optimal way of seeing girl's panties is when she's crawling around on the ground while pretending to be an animal

>>49289849
>4x: IRyS
>3x: Fauna
FaunRys kombi saikou

Important news for EN3 applicants:
Kiara just said that if you can speak german, you are almost guaranteed to get hired. Apparently Yagoo's favourite anime of all time is 'Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu' and one of his favourite characters is 'Annerose' so he has soft spot for germans/german speaking people. In fact she said that yagoo watches some random VODs of hers just to hear 'Auf Wiedersehen'.
So better learn some basic german, femanons

>>49283498
Is this like goodsmile where it’s based on money made or sells? If it’s sells that’s impressive but if it’s money less impressive because they’re worth almost 5 times the price

>>49289849
That's a beautiful Irys, do you have the source ?

>>49277395
>>49279770
>>49280634
>>49281404
>>49284454

Sex
>who did you think of

>>49289971
>t.picrel

Ina seems 90% more rapeable lately.

>>49290017
https://twitter.com/tkskmakoto/status/1656739198303367179

>>49290017
https://twitter.com/tkskmakoto/status/1656739198303367179

>>49290097
Thanks

>I love mommy. I have all of my mommy's ASMR streams in a personalized playlist which I listen to on loop every waking morning every sleeping night and every moment in between almost religiously. i love mommy.

>>49290186
based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy9dDExuZ6E
Fauna wants to crash her numbers with no survivors this month.

>>49289728
>>49289812
Anons, This is extremely based, you know.

>>49290300
>1 waiting
it's over

>>49290334
Yeah, me.
I'm the last sapling.

Hey, can all (You) retards quit breaking containment with ass-pull numbers about merch profit breakdowns? It's making it hard to keep the good generals bumped. Thanks.

>>49290300
Maybe, but holy fuck how mad will schizos be if this stream does well?

>>49290334
I'm still summoning my 9999 other tulpas
please wait

>>49290300
this will be kino?

>>49290365
No Idea what you're talking about. We're just in here loving our wives and being happy. Why do people keep coming here and accusing us of these strange things. I don't know how to tell you this but a large number of people in here can't even add.

>>49290300
>3 year old game
Where the fuck did she even find this

>>49285553
Do you know what selfless means? You can’t be selfless streamer towards fans. You’d have to keep monetization off, you’d have to offer high quality merch at a loss among other things to even be in the conversation of a selfless streamer. Most of them say this is their dream job and they probably mean it doesn’t mean losing their fans would make them depressed. At best you’re explaining a transaction. Then you bring up nonsense about hiding issues like that’s not normal for most streamers in general.

>>49290471
I mean, Kaela played it at one point

>>49290300
We will all be watching desu~. 8k floor.

>>49290382
More, she doesn't deserve it, will probably be made.

>>49290489
Ah, that explains it. I did a quick youtube search and she didn't pop up for me, so didn't think anyone in Holo had played.

>>49290082
>>49290468
god I love women that look like boys they are so hot

>>49290529
Me too

>>49290529
relax zelda

>>49290529
So you just want a boyfriend with a vagina then?

>>49290471
this one isn't from northern lion at least

>>49290365
No one knows or cares what you’re talking about. You’d have less issues if you stop entering this thread

Fauna tweet

>>49290524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GuReUVwZBA
Korone has

>>49290300
Haven't taken a look at the thumbnail or the game, but the title sounds like a good streaming game?

>>49290468
>our wives
That's very true anon. /#/ threads during EN hours is the only time we throw the charts and graphs into the trashcan and instead focus all of our attention on our virtual youtuber wives. Very true indeed.

>>49290529
kenzokus itt
abandon thread

>>49290596
more like a femboy with a vagina, I still would like her to behave like a woman

Ohio, my name is Bazinga Fucklord desu, my favorite anime is Neon Genesis Evangelion and I really love hardcore yaoi VNs. Those will be my main content. Please enjoy.

Are mixed gens the ultimate debuff, worse than just males? Because nijien's last two crashed and burned so badly

>Fauna's playing Hitman again later
All is forgiven. Fauna could shoot me in the gut and I'd forgive her if it meant more Hitman streams.

>>49290300
Korone played this while shrieking like a monkey to a tune of 14k people.

>>49289728
>>49289812
>>49290330
The lion and the unicorn
Were fighting for the crown
The unicorn beat the lion
All around the town.

>>49290058
To be real every holo except ollie, mori, kronii, kobo, and bae’s new outfit (but regular bae definitely fine)

>>49290696
If I were a VN player, I'd play the Ranma series, not whatever he's playing

>Stars 3 before EN3
I dont believe that will happen, but if somehow Cover debuts 4 more boys before EN girls, I will first time ever in my life dislike the announcement trailer and comment on the post
Not because I hate boys but that will confirm that EN management hates CGDCT

>>49289971
Newfag alert

>>49290731

>>49290717
She said MAYBE, and has no frame up

>>49290784
Them taking the girls twitter and reddit didn't clue you in already?

>>49290784
>dislike the announcement trailer and comment on the post
Holy shit anon, Jesus, you should have yourself committed for even thinking of going to such terrible extremes.
Next thing you'll tell me you're going to write a polite, reasonable, and brief message on the contact form? Will your horrors never cease?

Are you faggots literally incapable of not talking about Fauna? Her numbers aren't good. This shit won't even touch 8k

>>49290784
Anon, Cover will cease to be if they release Stars 3 before EN3.

>>49290832
thats fine because I see it as "we made a mistake but we cant let it fail so we need all the help"

For a really long time I though Yorumi was completely menhera and had a personality that was constantly changing. Then I found out Hinano was actually a different person and not some split personality. I was so disappointed.

>>49290810
If she ends up not playing Hitman, that would be worse to me than her calling all her fans simps ever could be.

I want my funny Hitman stream.

>>49290863
I love Fauna and she is my girlfriend

>>49290863
Fauna is /#/s favourite (EN) child

>>49290777
If I was a VN player, I'd do it in my spare time and not on stream with my livelihood at stake.

>>49290731
Unicorns are the strongest race

>>49290837
anon, its not about me.. its showing that even someone like me who love Cover and defend them will do this, so you can imagine how far other will go

Some /biz/fag answer me. Why didn't Hololive use its revenue money to build the 3D Studio? Wouldn't it be better if they remained a private company?

>>49290784
No Omega means the veggies are off the menu.

>>49290977
you think that kind of money grows on tree?

>>49290784
Even the current homos would probably beg EN management to reconsider if they were going to do something that monumentally stupid.

>>49290784
reddit will be locked for a full month, the tweet post will get validated hate and even the youtube video will be a shitshow

>>49290977
>just build a 3D studio in Tokyo bro

>>49290871
I wouldn't mind so much if they weren't hurting the girls by doing this. I had to block their twitter because of how obnoxious they were with it. The reddit was growing so much last year but it might as well be dead right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EokKZKj6BE
Moom.
If Fauna ends up playing Hitman, all 3 will be fucked

>>49291005
obviously you didn't play animal crossing

>>49290863
Anonchama... Fauna is /our/ oshi. Stop fighting it. It's not healthy. Become and you will BE SAVED

>>49291059
>all 3 will be fucked
By me.

>>49290784

>>49291074
Alright, you got me

>>49288904
We’ve gotten to the point that cuckmates are blaming management instead of her being lazy.

>>49290863
Fauna is my favorite HoloEN that streams more than once a week on average.

>>49290731

>>49291145
Me and my favorite baseball player rushing home to watch our oshi play Minecraft

>>49291074
But that money never grew on trees, it...just...huh how did it get up there?

Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/bwxkhQqNe04?t=4354

>>49290784
Has it ever occurred to any of you guys that the EN scene is probably all dried up for female talent. Also I wouldn't doubt the expectations are HIGHER since they themselves probably think Council a failure because Sana graduating.

>>49291234
>Sana graduating
Literally their fault
Let's hire the artist who says she doesn't want to draw on stream, give her the most experimental and obviously-going-to-be-unpopular model in company history, combined with her having an extremely strong accent.
This plan cannot fail and she's surely going to have tons of fun and love the job.

>>49291234
You're right. Thank god we have so many talented 3 view holostars to pick up the slack from the council failures

>>49291234
bruh, yea anon... lets not debut new EN gen looking at Council but debut Stars new gen when still 1 of the guy from the gen has yet to hit 100k subs

>>49291335
I'm still sure that if they didn't block all of her ideas she would still be around, or at least had a whole lot more streams

>>49290977
According to Yagoo the early VC investors wanted out and pretty much gave him the option of either go public or sell the company. I remember reading it in an article that came out during the IPO.

>>49288735
>>49288647
Nope there’s no way anyone wants to be a holo still. I mean cover has been trying for nearly 2 years now and no girls signed up. What other reason would they open auditions but debut males instead. They obviously got 0 applications for en and jp it just makes the most logical sense. It’s not like they got 10s of thousands of applications and decided to ignore them all making people move on

>>49291382
>all her ideas
Her Kusoge Mondays could've still been done because all she had to do was not fucking call it Kusoge. She could've just played the fucking games.

Huh, she did an English note too at end of the stream

>>49290784
>not believing stars3 will happen before en girls

The Current Timeline of "EN3" auditions
>https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1476445784862498816
>December 30th 2021, Hololive opens permanent english auditions for "hololive production" (no gender specified) obvious now this was Tempus auditions.
>https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1499747976444809217
>March 4th 2022, Male Vtuber auditions are 'confirmed' to be now be open. Clear reaction to Nijisanji opening more auditions immediately after Noctyx debuts.
>https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1549577308515602432
>July 19th 2022, Holostars English re-opens auditions before the first generation has even properly debut.
>https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1604325583344762880
>December 17th 2022, Holostars English opens auditions again just 2 weeks before Tempus second generation has even debut themselves
>https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1624649502526144513
>February 12th 2023, The first time girls have been clearly stated as wanted for auditions. But also guys because why not remind everyone Holostars auditions are still running.

Their auditions have been running for 2 more months than any asking for girls have. Prepare to become an anti anon

>>49291234
Legit every company is getting new people except for hololive. Throughout the entire world there at least five English's speaking girls out there that want to be idols.

>>49291445
We are talking about EN management there at it's best period, she would get zero perms and get blocked from most ones that JP had

>>49291473
There no way there going to put stars 3 out before more girls. They would legit have more boys than girls for holoen.

>>49291234
>The whole world has only 10 girls who can speak English and play video games using an avatar without sperging out.
Come on, surely they can just grab some high school dropout who would be careful not to screw up her one good job.

>>49291552
Hard fucking doubt, this is the same woman who did nothing but play Nintendo tripe and even fucking Kaela debuted and was playing bottom of the barrel dogshit

>>49291451
Does she even have EN viewers? She was away from Hololive after the CN fiasco and hasn't collabed with her Gook hating daughter for 3, years now

>>49291627
>Comparing EN and ID

Is Council really a failure if they're the top EN vtubers, beating even Myth, now?

>>49291473
At that point I would just give up, just keep watching the girls I already watch but refuse all events or anything EN related at all.

>>49290784
I’ll repeat this again their new strategy is 1 en 1 jp 1 id a year. They already got the en, id should be next with most likely another uproar in October. This will force more stars guided tours for holofes. Jp 7 will be 2024 with id homo1 and maybe en3. They’re marketing tempuke much harder though en3 could possibly by 2025

>>49291473
Don't forget this >>49285257. They either haven't gotten all the members for T3 yet or their already looking for T4.

>>49291451
Astel is so lucky

>>49291731
Nope, they're not a failure by any reasonable metric. Never have been.

>>49291627
but only Luxiem got passed the Sana line when she was active

>The Alpha of Abstinence. The Bane of Beggars. The Cultivator of Chastity. The Duke of Decorum. The Emperor of Etiquette. The Führer of Femininity. The Gladiator of Gachikoi. The Hero of Honesty. The Imperator of Idols. The Juggernaut of Jubilation. The King of Kamioshis. The Lord of Love. The Master of Modesty. The Naysayer of Narratives. The Overlord of Oshi. The Prince of Parasocials. The Qualifier of Queens. The Ruler of Roommates. The Sultan of Streaming. The Tycoon of Talents. The Undertaker of Unicornism. The Virtuoso of Vtubers. The Wedder of Wives. The Xenogenesis of Xeraphim. The Yardmaster of Yen. The Zenith of Zealotry.

>>49291482
>>49291362
>>49291375
I don't think they are looking for bottom of the barrel gamer girl weeb. Let's face the facts, it's 99% what is knocking on HoloEN auditions.

>>49291777
What does that have to do with the conversation

>>49291482
Please understand, hololive is in such a position that they are literally the only talent agency on earth that simply cannot find girls to fill their roster

>>49291473
The girls should stay away from any Cover offices for a while if that happens.

>>49291790
So why are they looking for bottom of the barrel guys?

>>49291869
Both of them are kaigais btw

>>49291902
It's the only sort that would both want to be a vtuber and apply for hololive in the west

>>49291899
Do they actually have a separate site for the auditions now?

>>49290977
That would imply yagoo would stop being conservative with merch stock or underplaying the ability to sell out concerts. Their current revenue wouldn’t be able to handle that studio, the new hired workers, and their current projects already in development. Yagoo is an awful Business man and bad at delegating leadership roles if you look at the shit show of en. If he had his way and the company turned into nijisanji but keeping the generous cuts they’d have bankrupted years ago

>>49290934
>mori unamused face
>dress like a whore
there's nothing about that picture i don't love

>>49291902
As much as I hate male vtubers I'm not going to sit here and pretend that they don't work hard. Because males in general are just more talented and hardworking.

>>49291234
>>49291790
Homobegging faggot

there's a watamate that probably reuploaded 300 hours of watame streams on bilibili

>>49291938
So, Management ok with bottom of the barrel guys but the girls need to be able to sing, dance, draw, and have a million subs before they even look their way?

>>49291731
Does it count as "beating" Myth if Myth isn't really competing to begin with?

Don't get me wrong, they're streaming more often now but Myth went through like 7 - 8 months where the only one streaming consistently was Kiara. The damage is done imo.

>not even 1k waiting an hour off
She actually filtered her fans by being a stupid cunt. Goodbye EN #2 and #3

>>49291959
its here
https://holostars.hololivepro.com/en/audition/
but still goes to the mixed "hololive production" application

>>49289662
who's Abby?

>>49291473
They were auditioning a little longer than that because shu applied and they told him no males

>>49292190
Shu applied to the council auditions back in Feb 2021 anon, far far older than these auditions.

>>49292143
Loli from Fate designed by the guy who designed Ina. I thought that was Beatrice from ReZero but maybe that guy is right.

>>49292063
I literally said nothing about homos. I just don't want the typical western whore trash invading HoloEN. If it takes some time to find good talent I don't mind.

>>49292107
>Weak beito oben
You don't even deserve a gift card.

>>49291731
They really only beat Myth in the CCV game. That's always been council's biggest problem. They don't reach as far out of the vtuber bubble

>>49292094
hey, they didn't build their brand with no standards.

Momocashew from the band Mili is in EN3 roster.

>>49291552
Right you know what’s going to happen. She was lazy and thought she made enough with art then realized she needed more money after losing the hololive checks so she made one of those patreon type accounts for direct support

>>49292123
Is there a female alternative page?

I don't think EN3 is happening anytime soon because I genuinely doubt there are any girls in the west right now who want to be idols. Like, genuine idols and such.

Council was Hololive's attempt at hiring basic, regular girls to be in Hololive and it went terribly. The girls are lazy as shit, hate their own audiences, and are generally not very creative.

I don't doubt that Cover saw that and has basically given up on EN women, hence the focus on homos.

>>49291931
CGDCT kagai vs Homobeggar kagai

>>49292307
I will literally knell if Yagoo pulls this off.

>>49292094
Essentially yes. You can't really get high quality male applicants promising them "maybe you'll be able to keep 1k average". Even Niji couldn't really find anyone good despite Luxiem raking in tons of money and being super popular. Look at who they got for iLuna and Xsoliel. These people just don't exist. If you're absolutely determined to do the male vtuber thing, Cover actually got some of the better recruits available. Believe it or not the fucking red shota guy was one of the most frequently cited potential recruits for both Niji and Holostars. Same with Vesper.

>>49292337
>reddit spacing

>>49292241
you can tell from the keyhole on the head it's abby, sucks she's one of the worst foreigners cause she's really popular.

>>49292337
I don't even think the CURRENT roster for HoloEN wanted to be idols. Or do the reps to become one at least. Any little bit of work outside of streaming they get super burnt out while the JP girls just keep trucking along.

>>49291234
>>49291790
Then Cover will just prove yet again how amazingly incompetent their EN recruiting team is
Holo EN is by far the most coveted job for a female chuuba (instant popularity, lenient requirements once you get in, stable income without having to coombait) so they have the pick of the litter of applicants
...and yet they couldn't find 5 at least Council-tier chuubas out of thousands upon thousands of applicants?

I find it much more likely that rather than their being a dearth of prospective talent, it's that:
a) they were laser focused on hiring homos, even bottom of the barrel ones like Flygon
b) the recruiters are ESL retards that thought the likes of Sana was a good idea and simply can't tell whether an EN chuuba is actually good or not

>>49292094
hey, they didn't get here by accident.

>>49292411
Except Shion and Haacham and Laplus and Aqua and Ayame sure.

>49292337
>The girls are lazy as shit, hate their own audiences, and are generally not very creative.
You're either a Mythfag or a nijinigger.

Holostaff here. We've tried to find new girls. But all the girls that auditioned said crazy things like they want to be hololive and refused collabs with our boys. Our market analysis (performed by T-chan and Diego) shows that this is not what western audiences want, so we had to let them go. We will be certain to find someone who can fit the demands of the western audience, while not being led astray by a minority voice and submitting to the male gaze.

>>49292428
>bottom of the barrel ones like Flygon
They never thought Flayon was bottom-barrel. They basically debuted the entire Tempus2 gen to get him and Bettel.
He was so good they couldn't let him go and kept him parked in reserve for four months.

>>49292411
>Who is Bae
Being an idol is all she wants

>Enter numberfag general thread
>The English has suddenly taken a turn for the worst
It's burger hours isn't it? Unironically I've seen better eigo during seatime. SEACHADS COME BACK!!!!

>>49292428
>Holo EN is by far the most coveted job for a female chuuba
Not anymore. I 100% believe the average girl looking to get into vtubing is FAR more interested in being, and willing to be, the next Veibae or Shylily rather than the next Gura or Kiara. Especially since people have realized that coombaiting is just efficient. Low effort, high reward.

>>49292324
the tweet asking for girls and boys just links to this
https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

>>49291869
>>49292376
why do you hate yourself?

>>49289728
>>49289812
I will keep buying merch and throwing big fat SC’s to those that still respect us

69 heh days for the record bros.

>>49292466
some of those are health issues.

https://youtu.be/LWi95TMoYs0?t=22659

>"I really hope we can grow bigger, I need more EN members, I need more collaboration partners"... "so that is something I feel that has been maybe um...dragging us down maybe a bit".
I'm not crazy for thinking that Kiara is implying that no EN3 has been slowing growth in her opinion. Right?

>>49292324
there is no site or ad targeted at just females like there is for stars

So, in conclusion, I don't think it's that Cover doesn't want to do EN3. I think there, literally, just aren't enough qualified and motivated women for the job in the year of our lord, 2023.

Why do so many people reply to retard tier posts like this >>49291234

>>49292602
It's over

>>49292557
wdym?

>>49292624
No because you assign numbers to the context

unicorn friendly thread?

>>49292624
Yes, that's obviously what she's saying. And it's obviously true.

>>49292603
Of course their health issues are legit even though they are vague and unspecified, but Gura and Ina and Mumei's aren't because they're EN.

>>49292603
Some of EN are health issues, or do you call those bullshit and laziness?

>>49292530
And those chuubas will struggle since the only viable options are remaining indie in a saturated scene, or applying to niji EN or a small corpo and thus get dogshit numbers

>>49292624
>homobeggar in chat
i though KFP were better than this

Reading nip twitter about holocure is funny, some wish mac can run it too, some are hoping for it to be available on ps4 ps5

>>49292624
>>49292248

>>49292649
Your conclusion is retarded. You make a post get btfo in every single reply and say "yep, I'm glad we all agree". Fucking cringe

>>49292649
Neither are the Tempiss faggots and yet Cover debuted 8 of those failures. Hell a fucking Neuro-Sama type chatbot would've been better at this point.

>>49292624
How many of the members have expressed desire for a new gen by this point?

>>49292649
They missed out on hiring plenty of talents that couldve worked under their model

>>49292508
too bad she's a streamer.

The Kagura Nana 3D live made me curious what is the current median of every single Holo Papa/Mama who have Vtuber careers

>>49292428
They need to remove themselves away from the whole NOW vtuber scene that twitch whores propagate. Advertise HoloEN as an actual idol job that has the infrastructure to back it up like the new studio and concerts. The talent Cover is attracting in the west right now are all probably trash.

>>49292624
She's right. Also kind of disheartening because if she knew EN3 was getting announced in a month or two I don't think she would say that.

>>49292778
they, just like the viewers, have to eat their veggies first

>>49292624
its just so fucking stupid that not only did they debuted Tempus because they say Luxiem (lol look at them now) BUT then they doubled down and released 4 more dudes a few months after.

HOLY FUCK I HATE EN MANAGEMENT

>>49292530
Bruh, how can anything be more efficient than what HoloEN does? Worst case scenario, you're unpopular and might actually have to stream regularly.

>>49292411
>Any little bit of work outside of streaming they get super burnt out while the JP girls just keep trucking along.
That's because most of EN are a bunch of weak neet girls who spent their formative years being depressed. There bodies don't have what it takes.

>>49292624
No shit. I still don't understand if the people saying EN3 isn't needed are antis or just retards. It's such an obvious fact that multiple ENs have expressed the wish for more EN kouhai on stream, let alone the fans.

>>49292778
>Kiara
>Mori
>Fauna
>Gura
are the ones that I remember

I just realized one of the phase girls is doing a donothon now, 8k raised in 3~ hours. Pockets aint quite as deep as the jews for phase.

>>49292504
That's even more damning and just more evidence of
>b) the recruiters are ESL retards that thought the likes of Sana was a good idea and simply can't tell whether an EN chuuba is actually good or not

>>49292754
Why would you try to play videos games on a mac?

>>49292624
this tells me 2 things
1) Girls are not stupid, they know EN management is incompetent and no new gen dragged the growth
2) She is openly stating she want it means no EN3 is introduced to them or even hinted that they are in pipeline

>>49292624
Surprised that the chat didn't went ''B-But why you don't collab with le tempus''

>>49292838
another scam in the making?

>>49292624
You're applying numbers to the context. But I'm pretty sure half of EN at this point has talked about wanting EN3.

>>49292826
The ones against en3 is a mix of homobeggars and nijishills

>>49292739
Ayame's is probably one of the shit-related ones, and Gura's might be, too.

>>49292743
no.

>>49292882
but they did?

>>49292833
IRyS also

Cover would have to do a lot of dumpster diving for en3, I am not surprised at how long it's taking

>>49292882

>>49292838
It's a small pool of people who watches these microcorps, and they're often the same people that watch girls from multiple groups. A lot of overlap. There's only so much money to squeeze there.

>>49292826
they are either homobeggars that think the girls will collab with the homos based on waiting torture, or normies that don't have the time to watch too many people so they think only about themselves

>>49292882

>>49292685
you're male, right?

>>49292933
Oof

>>49292933
>>49292972
Oh shit I missed that, they really never give up...

>>49292624
I don't think she's talking solely about numbers here, feels like she also thinks people are just down in general and they want new collab partners

But also yeah if ANYONE were to give a "*wink wink* we might have new friends soon" it'd be Kiara so EN3 isn't anytime soon.

>>49292933
>>49292972
Why are homobeggars like this?

>>49292928
This is the problem with the western vtuber scene. I don't think anyone who has a bit of talent in them would want to be associated with shit like this.

>>49292799
The difference is too big to make a "relevant" median, Ayamy usually has 200-300 viewers, Kagura Nana and Pochi are usually high 3view, Ui is a 5view streamer, etc.

>>49292933
>>49292972
sasuga KFPcord

>>49292838
>donothon
Yab incoming

Why does this thread constantly blame EN management for everything relating to Tempus when the true legitimate people to blame are Yagoo and his inner circle

>>49292928
>huge veins
no

>>49292843
How did these recruiters get Myth then? was it just a coincidence and they unga bungaed 3 RMs with feats to their names(Mori/Gura/Ina), flopped Ame (let's be honest she's nothing special) and Kiara is the obvious "jap speaker with idoru experience" stupid pick (but one that has some logic)?

>>49292799
Ui 5 view and Nacho mid 4 view are the only ones that get numbers that I remember. Everyone else seems to be 3 sometimes low 4 views.

>>49292928
>oldschool runescape
yeah youd need tits that fucking fat to make watching a woman play that shit bearable.

>>49292933
>never heard of em

>>49293077
Not now, nijinigger

>SameAme
completely fucking dead with no sign of revival
>TakaMori
dead but some fans still have hope
>Kromei
half dead, Kronii gets shipped more with Vesper at this point
>BaeRyS
slowly dying, numbers show its a fucking debuff and IRyStocrats seem to hate the ship with a passion

Now imagine:
>Luna stays depressed af fuck after that Matsuri shit and never finds ChocoShuba + Botan afterwards.
>Pekora doesnt move on from the Miko Rap, stops streaming as frequent
>Kanatan loses Suichan, then Coco and no more new girls to keep moving too, graduates

AHHH 10 GIRLS AINT ENOUGH TO KEEP THE GIRLS BOUNCING OFF EACH OTHER ONCE THEY GET BOARD FROM THE FRIENDSHIPS. ITS FUCKING NORMAL TO FALL OUT OF FRIENDSHIPS!!!

>>49290784
Not even Tempiss and Tempoop want Homo3 meanwhile the girls have been complaining about wanting new EN kouhai

>>49293108
Yes. Genuinely, yes, it was a coincidence. Sometimes, you catch lightning in a bottle. It happens.

>>49293108
All sign point to the recruiters simply got lucky

>>49292972
>>49292933
Genuinely how does this happen during a fucking Kiara SC reading?
These are the corest of core viewers. Tried and true KFP that never once got filtered by Kiara, that know her inside out. And yet they don't know why it won't happen?

>>49292933
Why is it so hard to fathom that girls only want to play with girls

>>49293077
EN management should use their heads. They should have said "No, Mr CEO. I think the emperor has no clothes in this instance. Enough is enough, doubling down only hurts our reputation, our morale, and our bottomline."

>>49293150
I mean Tempiss didn't want Tempoop either but they got them anyway.

>>49292833
I remember Mumei saying something but can't recall which stream.

at this point, it'd be nice to see them interact with new people. I can sort of understand the people who wanted Niji collabs.

>>49290715
Yes because you're trying to market them towards two different fanbases at the same time but in case of iLuna even girls were hired with chinese fujos as the target it feels, they wanted them to be "sistubers" but it didn't work at all so they ended up as grooming projects.

>>49292885
>>49293068
not all donothons are scams the idolcorp ones went fine.

They meant new girls with this, right?

>>49293159
HoloX and ID3 have been pretty good.

We are legit going to get new homos before girls that insane. If the anon was not bullshitting about the twitch ads for tempus that shows they already have males ready to debut. I never seen an company throw this hard before.

>>49293221
>overseas
ID4

>>49293210
lol nah, fuck donothons bro

>>49292409
Because lore-wise she is also the top dog of Foreigner, being possessed by the strongest of them all only after Azathoth

>>49293201
Vesper was probably pissed as fuck about tempoop seeing how much of a metafag he was.

>>49293221
no, they meant veggies

>>49293204
I fucking hate niji with a passion but even the pomu/kiara collabs were a breath of fresh air.

>>49293210
Donothons are bottom tier content focused on nothing but milking the fans by default unless they have some specific goal in the mind like actual charity

>>49293231
I would guess that EN has different recruiters, even if JP management and Yagoo get the final say.

>>49293143
Then they should do a Kronii and find a Tempus boy to bounce back from.

Imagine Gura with Bettel and Ame with Hakka.

They don’t have to keep being depressed! I also think Kiara and Regis would hit it off.

>>49292603
Only Haachama because I got her pregnant.

>>49293221
I seriously don't think we're getting EN3 ever. They probably meant ID Stars.

>>49292854
don't know, i was thinking the same

>>49290715
Yes. You either never have gen unity or shipfaggotry. Even normalfags watching fleshstreamers groan when w*men show up

>>49293233
They probably already locked some in their discord to debut around Tempus1 anniversary.

>>49293077
it's his company, he gets to run it.

>>49292833
(you) should stitch them all into a clip. Bet (you)'ll get more views than Mr writing ch.

>>49293294
>Imagine Gura with Bettel and Ame with Hakka.
>They don’t have to keep being depressed! I also think Kiara and Regis would hit it off.

Have fun with that, sis. But, me personally, I'm not watching any of those streams.

>>49293023
The trick is finding ones that don't use Twitch, they are in the better half of western chuubas by default

>>49293283
i never said anything about the nature of their quality, but most have delivered on their goals.

>>49293233
>company
only EN branch, they are very very lucky that their only competition is NijiEN who are even bigger fuckups

https://twitter.com/naniwa_zuni/status/1657090530105253901
thread is dead and I found this funny

>>49293287
EN1 was recruited by the JP team, EN2 wasnt which is why EN2 was a failure and they havent been allowed to make further hires

>>49293221
yep but it will be Hololive Brazil

>>49293196
>not kissing your bosses ass to get promoted

Ngmi

>>49293233
Due to their recruiting push I am really starting to think that EnStars4 will happen before EN3.

>>49293313
Did they closed the ID4 auditions sometime ago? So they are already a lock.

>>49293167
It's because of that subset of viewer that thinks the only reason the girls avoid Tempus is because of le idol culture and le parasocials from veetee
From that perspective these guys think they're fighting the good fight and that the girls will be happier collabing with the guys

>>49293359
Fungus please

>>49293013
Management would burn her if she did that.

>>49290784
>COCKS COCKS COCKS I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT COCKS
You are mentally ill.

>>49293233
Hope they are ready to flop harder than vanguard.

>>49293233
I want to see it. Tempus having more members than HoloEN would be the pinnacle of clown world

>>49292624
I hope this gets clipped

>>49293329
3 of them are behind membership sadly, The Kiara one could get some good reactions though but I'm not a clipper

>>49292624
>An EU branch makes no sense.

>>49293233
Don't know why you would lie about it but then again I don't watch Twitch.

>>49293414
Oh look it's you

>>49293233
I'm not even gonna doompost about it. if they want to do it, do it
Crash HomoEN below HomoJP forever

>>49293337
That's a big problem too. Because although I don't think it's a bad thing to hire vtubers in training however they are typically all the same. Fans of vtubing that probably didn't work on anything outside of just streaming.

>>49293294
why are cucks like this? go watch nijisanji if you are into that

>>49293456
EU bros...how do we cope when even Kiara doesn't think an EU branch can work

Chloe is over 1M subs, we're getting JP7 soon
Council doesnt even have anyone over 900k, theyre talking about ID4

>>49292649
there weren't enough for Council.

>>49293233
It would make sense if Tempus had at least 1 male Gura, like a Vox or something, bringing in massive amounts of money and views. But, they're all, ALL, worms in that dept. So, I don't get this stubbornness at all.

>>49293357
lmao

>>49293462
why the fuck was this taken with a phone instead of screenshot

>>49293493
I just don't care anymore

>>49292903
Stamp?

>>49293456
>Kiara confirmed that they get additional budget money from cover based off spotify monthly listeners
That's a new one.

>Fauna shitposting slows down
>Homo apologists crawl back in

>>49293442
99% of clippers are homobeggar, don't count on it

>>49293493
There are like 2 or 3 notable EU vtubers besides Kiara and they're all Twitch thots who are under Mythic now.

>>49290784
Apparently they're pushing ads for Tempus auditions on fucking twitch, pretty desperate. Makes you think they didn't give up yet T3MPUS must have 3 gens to be complete no matter the cost...

>>49293143
Ina was telling a story about how her gura and ame were hanging out in japan, It seemed strange to me cause whenever I do see Ame and also Mori talk bout gura, they hesitate or they completely avoid it all together. I don't watch them much so maybe I missed something but it feels weird when they respond to a chat about her. Kind of like when Ame found Gura's cave in minecraft. She asked who owned it and when she saw gura's name in chat she just said oh, and dropped it there.

>>49292833
Bae and Mumei have both said that they feels so much pressure when girls start taking breaks cause of lack of streams.

>>49293501
none of stars has 300k, why are there dozens of them??

>>49293545
>chumpedos start showing back up
Lol mayne it was chumkeks doing all the baiting too?

>>49293541
Who the fuck streams holo stuff on spotify? Wouldn't it make more sense to go off YT monthly views?

>>49293516
For the exact reason that anon is talking about i guess, so people don't scream "FAKE" as soon as they see it

>>49293233
Tempus 3 won't be for another 2years for fairness

>>49293493
I just accepted that Cover hates Europe for some reason and are learning Japanese, Sora's zatsus are way better one you understand the banter!

>>49293357
why are pomudachis like this?

>>49293583
That's rich coming from Mumei since she was one of the girls taking massive amounts of time off a while back.

>>49293607
They use milestones for songs on YT. If you get 1m on your orisong you get more money for future song budget.

>>49293607
>His oshi doesn't release albums

>>49293221
>Overseas? All homos.

>>49293575
I refuse to believe this because it will just ruin my weekend

>>49293575
Stop shilling your retarded gimmick account, cock loving faggot.

>>49292337
You can’t find new talents if you are ignoring every audition sent by a woman. It’s really that simple as to why we have new 8 male vtubers without a hint of a new female gen.

>>49293575
why are you using your shitpost account?

>>49293670
Yes

>>49293201
>>49292822
it was always supposed to be one gen.

>>49293575
>twitch
Oh yeah, more cancer for EN!
You just know all of EN management only knows about streaming in context of modern Twitch and probably doesn't even know what a let's play is

>49293359
Council is literally carrying HoloEN despite only having 4 members whereas Myth just checked out, fuck off.

There are 8 more males coming. Dark Tempus. Then the girls and the boys will have two gens.

>>49293720
>ignoring every audition from western whore

Honestly for the best.

>>49293648
Tbf Mumei made that comment about feeling pressured to stream in like November of last year when there was only like 3 active members, before she fucking died herself

>>49289725
Quite a short list. Did hololive had an emergency meeting?

>>49293757
why are you worried? half of holoEN were twitchers

>>49293586
Unironically lower criteria and standards.

>>49293210
>not all donothons are scams the idolcorp ones went fine.
Are you talking about Idol, EIEN or VReverie? Because it's the same corpo and that alone is a scam, same bitches different places.
If you think no one noticed the streaming gaps between these corpos, you're mistaken Aviel.

Just like i caught the Peanut Bottter, i'm still gonna tail grab your jewbitches. I'm also fully aware of IdolEN Gen 2 and the Kawaii whores.

all the EN fanbase wants is streamers not idols this is why council by and large outperforms most of myth who hired subpar streamers that had other talents.

>>49293462
He's 100% lying.
-0 twitter mentions about Tempus twitch ads
-convenient unverifiable info
-no VOD exists for this stream (https://www.twitch.tv/angel_steps/videos?filter=archives&sort=time))
-last ASMR done by angel steps was on fucking youtube
-autist with a stream deck doesn't know how to take a screenshot, has to take a phone photo (unlikely, done to diminish shoop accusations)
-twitch ads aren't like YT ads, they don't get placed for minor shit like vtuber auditions

>>49293822
And most of these ended up being shit

>>49293681
Come home

>>49293845
take your meds.

>>49292386
The fact that Luxium is losing views to Korean and Bilibili vtubers suggests that even they aren’t particularly interesting. Do any of them sing well? Most of their charts in the past almost always dropped off over tome. They almost always peaked in the first 10 minutes and drop from there.

>>49293575
>he fell for it and revealed himself as unicornyoukai
Aww, I had hoped it was some genuine autist jap but if he's posting shit from /here/

>>49293233
Honestly Tempoop did more damage to the HomoEN brand than any fucking unicorn could hope for. At this point releasing another batch of faggots before EN3 would be a deliberate move to kille the branch without having to suffer bad PR.

>>49293878
I can't believe they are going to ruin this with EN and ID.

>>49293850
That is some cope. The reason Myth underperforms is because LITERALLY ALL OF THEM (except orange woman) STOPPED STREAMING

>>49293875
thanks for acknowledging that the 3 top CGDCT are shit

>>49293108
>>49293159
Myth's not that great either.

>>49293902
Ike was the only decent singer and he hated pandering to the fujos so he never blew up as hard.

>>49293541
Can't believe kobo is getting a bajillion money from spotify

>>49293108
Yes, plus first mover advantage and the fact that hololive was likely the most well-known vtuber group outside JP (except maybe Kizuna Ai's waning popularity)
Most of the holo EN hires have impressive looking resumes:
Gura, Mori, IRyS, Kronii, Mumei in terms of subscribers and/or views
Ina and Sana in terms of art
Ame was at least a solid 3-view on twitch
Bae and Kiara were the bilinguals that lived (at the time) in convenient timezones for the JP staff

>>49292882
Why is this thread filled with ESL retards?
Can anyone explain?

>>49293857
idc if this is true or not... the fact is we have no indication of EN3, moreover Kiara comments just makes it mind boggling that EN management is this incompetent

>>49293448
Well the second point wouldn't apply and we'll have to settle for a catbox here then

>>49293878
I wonder how many EOPs actually did go home after the Tempus arc or the Tempus 2 redux.

>>49293357
I actually kek'd

There were enough women for EN3, the trannies at HoloEN just cant scout like JP does. Filian would be in Hololive if she was Japanese, you have two easy nepohires in Shondo and Miori not to mention multiple other indies/small corpos who have had success, even someone like Shylily they mightve been able to hire when she was just some random twitchwhore copying Veibae's voice
I know you're going to counter with some bullshit about those girls not being good fits and this is when I'll remind you they hired Kronii and Ame while in JP they've managed to wrangle literal camwhores like Noel and Mel

Imagine letting a single image ruined your day, just ignore it, why giving people you don’t watch attention?

>>49293960
And yet those dumbfucks hired literally who Fauna to waste a slot

>why is getting good girls for EN3 so difficult
let me remind this thread of this gem
https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4

>>49293985
cope and seethe, jp7 is more important than en3

>>49294043
It's all the nijisisters have after the 1% fiasco.

>>49294065
>1 second in
Closed that shit immediately, don't need to contort my face today.

>>49293878
>Marine top-center.
>Pekora close to the bottom.
why?

>>49294065
Ah fuck, I knew what this was and still clicked.

>not even 2k waiting
She's fucking done for kek. All those posts about her ASMR were coping

>>49294065
I get the sinking feeling that is the tranny that everyone needed a transcript for

ID3 is actually EN3

>>49293159
>>49293940
they had first-mover advantage.

hey guys its almost moomin time

>>49294144
Pekora is not sexy.

>>49294192
an outfit only fit for a whore like Kronii

>>49293960
>>49294062
Fauna's resume was good too. Ironically enough she had the best peak CCV out of anyone else in EN prior to being hired(even if they were just for asmr streams)

>>49294065
This is the best the western scene has to offer btw.

>>49294153
she fell for the parasocial = le bad memes

>>49293575
They'll co-debut tempus3 and en3.

Let's be honest, EN3 will be failure for the single reason of them not hiring any hags, especially not 2-3 of them despite the branch needing it

8 minutes left until my mommy wife girl friend starts streaming.

>>49293493
>EU bros
you're not my bro, dude, do your fucking reps so you can watch late JP

>>49293414
Let me say this as someone who unironically likes cock: I fucking hate male vtubers. I don’t want these shits, I want cute girls. I don’t want them shitting up the good thing Hololive has going for it. Like, you ever wonder why faggots love Madonna and Lady Gaga?

>>49294262
I like your wife sir

>>49294248
would only reinforce the notion that dropping holoEN was the correct choice for me

>>49294262
>friend
Anonchama...

>>49294261
A hag in the west is vastly different from a hag in the east anon.

>>49293493
EU bros already have a choice.

>>49294262
>mommy wife girl
Ok
>friend
WATCH YOURSELF BUDDY

>>49294218
Oh yeah I forgot about Fauna
Was so used to their being 10 holo EN that I just stopped at 10
She was a solid 3-view with like 3x the numbers of Ame's PL, and even the EN recruiting morons must have recognized that ASMR was a niche they should fill

>>49294065
>https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4
>First time seeing this
Yeah the western talent pool is dry as shit rn.

>>49294144
She want to be close to her daughter

>>49293607
I do both for my oshi.

>>49294261
There's no such thing as a western Marine, anon. Western hags aren't based, they're cringe as fuck.

>>49294213
sorry anon but i'm gonna watch the idol showdown tournament

>>49291597
it's "holopro EN" now so it's fine

>>49294262
>friend
ngmi anon...

>>49292972
>ever heard of Chrome?

It was going to be mixed gen for next HoloEN gen, then Iluna and xsolil happened and flopped, now HoloEN scouting team need to find 2 more female candidates to debut a full 5 female

>>49294370
Fauna was in the post myth vtuber boom world. Ame was basically a pioneer EN vtuber in comparison before she was in Myth.

>>49294377
>First time seeing this
also, this video from 2020 before Myth, imagine 2023 auditions

>>49294144
Marine was the main antagonist of the short series.

EN3 will be shit but they would still get number simply because people been waiting for so long and will watch literally anything Cover put out

>>49293922
Funny thing is I don’t consider myself a unicorn. If the girls want to interact with dudes, who gives a shit? I can either not watch it or they collab with someone I enjoy. But the Homos? Or the NijiEN males? Fuck no. Every single one of them is cringy shitters that make every collab awkward. And I certainly don’t want HoloEN to become like NijiEN where every girls only stream is flooded by males who desperately need to be the center of attention. You know that’s what the HomoEN fuckers want to do if they could.

>>49294340
UUUUUUUU MOMMY PLEASE SAY THAT YOU LOVE ME!!!!!! THE ANONS HERE ARE BULLYING ME -ACK!!!!!!!

>>49294472
Oh, good fucking god...

>>49294422
Marine isn't even the oldest in her gen.

Can your oshi be your friend if you want to fuck her? I don't want to fuck my friends

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