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>> No.49274858

What on earth did Ike get suspended for? Did he try to fight back with management?

>> No.49274875

Suspension deflection tweet

>> No.49274887

>>49274858
Luca raped Ike in front of Pomu and Ike got a suspension for trying to complain about it.

>> No.49274902

>>49274858
He expressed his will.
Zaion reminded everyone that they're more than robots meant to financially kill each other to preserve the endless now that is Riku's yacht.

>> No.49274925

>>49274858
Probably drew boundaries with bfe shit or something.

>> No.49274945

at least now we know who leaked the 1% merch cut

>> No.49274960

>>49274858
He was friend with FalseEyeD and was the one who accidentally leaked the 1-3% thing
That's why the dramafaggot claimed that Niji was trying to silence him when he was in JP. They knew it was coming

>> No.49274971

>>49274816
Niji retaliation. These are not breaks

>> No.49274985

>>49274816
So he's the insider leaker, isn't he

>> No.49274999

>>49274960
That's bullshit but I believe it

>> No.49275043

>>49274816
It's so funny how there will now forever be doubt in people's minds whether it's a suspension or a normal break.
This is why it's generally a bad idea to for company policy to be to lie to your audience. Shit always gets out, and trust is very hard to regain.

>> No.49275061

>>49274816
Well, let's see how this turns out.

>> No.49275114
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>>49274816
Management preparing to suspend another talent for a minor miscellaneous infraction and tell the fans it's a "mental health break"

>> No.49275120

>>49274960
It's revenge for how they treated Yugo.
Yugo's lore introduction did have someone who looked a lot like Ike that Yugo looked up to.

>> No.49275143

>>49274816
well he got a "family vacation" from Nijisanji.

>> No.49275156

>>49274960
With how poorly the company is handled and how dumb their yabs get, I believe it. Truth unfortunately is stranger than fiction.

>> No.49275298

>>49275156
Everyone thought the stealth suspensions were stupid
Yet here we are

>> No.49275387

>>49275120
Imagine the seethe at NijiEN HQ when notYugo mogs the entirety of NijiEN with her numbers

>> No.49275527

Stealth suspension huh? hm alright

>> No.49275588

>>49274858
All the management conflict Zaion got into happened in places none of us could see and we never would've been able to guess at how petty and incompetent the managers were if she hadn't said anything. I think it's safe to say that if we even need to wonder what someone might've been suspended for (as opposed to obvious yabs like Gwelu's and Gundo's) it's probably management conflict.

>> No.49275899

>>49274816
Another obvious stealth suspension kek.

>> No.49275942

>15 days to slow the yab

>> No.49276047

I love how Nijifags can't never rest easy when a talent goes on break now. They'll always have on the back of their minds that their organs are on stealth suspension. Literally the definition of rent free KEK

>> No.49276050

>>49274858
Raped Pomu in front of Riku and got suspended for not letting Riku go first.

>> No.49276293

>>49274816
WE FOUND THE LEAKER, SISTERS

>> No.49276427

>>49274816
Huh, right when all this shit happens now.
I bet he spoke up. He already showed he is willing to throw shade at the company for the Covid shit.
He is probably one of the few good ones in NijiEN.

>> No.49276438

>>49275387
notyugo already mogs them
streams once a month and averages more ccv than allof luxiem nowadays; and also gets more than what he got during niji with just 1 song release + 1 stream per month
man's living the niconico utaite life now and showing the world that niji is indeed a debuff

>> No.49276484

>>49274960
Thought this was known? Ike was legit a buddy of Falseeyed before joining Niji.

>> No.49276673
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49276673

>>49274858
Probably the "Covid" tweet, iirc he was the first one that started it

>> No.49276874

>>49276438
I'm very happy Yugo can be that successful. I only wish Nina could do so well

>> No.49276880

>>49276673
Yeah, I am sure Ike is suspended mid may for a tweet made in February.
Then again, Anycolor may actually be that incompetent tl only have noticed now.

>> No.49276940

>>49274858
Fraud

>> No.49277267

>>49276438
this is probably one of the reasons 2%jisanji tried to torpedo Zaion so hard. Didn't want the other livers to get any funny ideas.

>> No.49277396

>>49277267
I don't know, Zaion already got the partnership on YT now. Sounds like she is on the good path.
The more the leavers strive, the more livers have to realize that staying with Niji is a major debuff.

>> No.49277559

>>49277396
you're right. I was suggesting a motive for management trying to hurt her career, not saying that they were successful in doing so.

Being impotent doesn't mean they weren't malicious

>> No.49277591

>>49277396
Anyone think Niji or Kyo might be so assblasted, they gonna send false claims to interfere with her channel as much as possible?

>> No.49277690

>>49274816
The dramafaggots will pick up the story as a suspension lol

>> No.49277962

>>49277396
It'll probably happen sooner rather than later, NijiJP and KR had no shortage of graduations and terminations over the years. It won't be difficult to imagine the same happening to EN.

>> No.49278076

>>49277591
Kyo absolutely is that petty. He's still malding to this day about the rizz comment.
The real question is if he will do it on his PL or as Kyo and force the company to fire his retarded ass.

>> No.49278157

>>49276438
>He
>Man

>> No.49278300

>>49278157
> I HAVE THE POOOWEEEEEEEEEEEER

>> No.49280416

>>49274960
I believe this rrat actually

>> No.49280495

what the fuck is this 2002 linux font rendering

>> No.49280808

>>49274816
LOL VACATIONSANJI

>> No.49281249

Didn't Shu just kinda come back from his long ass menhera break?
Are all of them taking turns being menhera

>> No.49281290

What other bait thread were you attempting to bury with this one anonchama?

>> No.49281692

>>49280495
Sorry, it's Paint. I don't care that much about schizoposting that I would waste time pirating Photoshop, please understand _/|\_

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>>49276438
>he

>> No.49282224

>radio silence
suspended

>> No.49283617

>>49276673
Reminder - this is why the clique openly mocks people now.
They are the reason it got cancelled in the first place.
All unity died from that cancellation onwards, and only certain people got openly hostile.

>> No.49284429

>>49276673
Oh no... They made an example of him

>> No.49284482

>>49274887
KWAB

>> No.49286296

>>49276673
I wouldn't be suprise if luxiem complained to management for their event to be a glorify karaoke on malaysia. And got suspended and give the event to the girls.

>> No.49286608
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>>49286296
Luxiem will be a case study in how you fumble a gigantic audience and hype. All they had to do is stream at least twice a week and not shit on their audience.
In particular Ike and Shu should have just done 2 streams a week and just go all in on cover songs and begin the slow work of getting orisongs done.
Shu still has 0 covers and 0 orisongs AND HE PITCHED HIMSELF AS A SINGER jesus christ

>> No.49287018

>>49274858
After the Zaion doc, it could be something as petty as saying he prefers Pepsi over Coke and a manager disagreed.

>> No.49287106

>>49276438
Is she still doing the male larp as an indie?

>> No.49287176

>>49286608
Reminder that the retard Shu thinks he belongs in hololive, not holostars, hololive

>> No.49287206

>>49286296
With how truth is stranger than fiction, the reality is either that or something even dumber than any of us could imagine.
Luxiem going menhera over not wanting to do a glorified karaoke in Malaysia is incredibly believable though. Imagine performing at tons of cons across North America, having the ability to pretty much perform on stage in Japan, and instead management sends you to bumfuck Asia. Actually I heard some people claim the event is pre-recorded, so not even going there, but who knows if they'll even be paid for a pre-recorded performance.

>> No.49288255

>>49287176
To be fair he’s basically a woman, man pees sitting down

>> No.49288275

>>49286608
>Cover wasted a whole year trying to chase a group that ended up self-sabotaging themselves harder than fucking Gura
That would be hilarious if it wasn't so goddamn depressing.

>> No.49288480

>>49286608
>Shu still has 0 covers and 0 orisongs AND HE PITCHED HIMSELF AS A SINGER jesus christ
but he sucks
>hurr durr all vtuber singer suck
no really his karaoke were bad

>> No.49288512

>>49287018
Well he should get suspended if he said something like that.

>> No.49290459

>>49288480
Yes and idols are allowed to suck, they just need to chase their dreams and become better

>> No.49290704

>>49290459
Too bad niji is where dreams die thus he can't produce any songs or something /s

Seriously, where are the songs?

>> No.49291317

>>49274816
>2 weeks
>check channel
>last stream 5 days ago
What

>> No.49292443

>>49274960
Ike being friends with FalseEyed is enough to get him bonked for two weeks, unfortunately.

>> No.49292571

>>49274902
That boat must be Titanic tier at this point. Say what you will but I bet it must be an awesome ride.

>> No.49292679

>>49291317
leave them to their delusions

>> No.49292891

>>49274960
So my assumption is Anykara management got mad due to leak and start bonking left and right to everyone who have connection to False.

>> No.49293031

>>49275043
This is why Holo honesty about Vesper suspension actually made him more popular.
At first people legit curious and suspect several other Stars, especially the blue leech.
But as time goes by, it became a lighthearted joke and everyone welcoming him back better than before.
Meanwhile livers lied and when they return most of the reaction is that of pity or worse, indifference.

>> No.49293128

>>49275156
>Truth unfortunately is stranger than fiction.
Yeah, it still baffled me that of all games Zaion played, the one who triggered the management is frikkin UNO of all places. And it's not even a big criticism, just her talking about how difficult it is to change her name.

>> No.49293753

>>49277690
I mean, this thread already called it suspension as well lol.
Your agency reputation is already tarnished, nijisisters. It's really hard to regain the trust after they lied and fans are appalled on how anykara treat their talents like that.

>> No.49293813

Imagine being the retard thinking this is a suspenion when hes tweeting. You should only think its a suspension if they dont tweet at all for one or two weeks

>> No.49293927

>>49274960
I think that leaking it would end up as MUCH more than a two week suspension but I can believe it if they suspended him just cause he was a friend.

>> No.49294264

>>49288512
He's a swede. They are Pepsiboys

>> No.49294584

When they get stealth suspended for real I would think their go-to explanation wouldn't be mental health, if they're forced to lie they probably wouldn't choose an even worse lie

>> No.49295027

>>49274902
>He expressed his will.
This.
We can't have that.

>> No.49295207

>>49294264
I miss Pepsi. Coca Cola ruling the world is worrisome.
>>49293753
Simple, management knew if he stop posting people will knew it's a suspension. So they ordered him to at least post once a day to placate his fans.

>> No.49296053

rrat: Ike was the one who told False about the merchandise rates and when he told him he honestly thought it was just something casual. Not a huge bomb that caused stress to the other members and management. So he admitted to them he was the one who told False and then got the suspension for being an idiot

>> No.49296149

>>49287206
Luxiem doesn't actually want to sing. When Vox leaked the shit to Rosemi on-stream he was complaining about how much work they had to do

>> No.49296283

>>49295207
Inca Kola mogs them both

>> No.49296392

true or not it's kinda ironic how something that should be the highlight of their lives makes all of them burned out and depressed
gg kurosanji, keep on exploiting

>> No.49296406

>>49294584
They don't have to completely lie, they can mix it with the truth. Easiest thing to think of when management asks "what are you gonna tell your fans?" is probably about your mental health or "how stressful it has been lately" because you're actually dealing with bullshit anyway

>> No.49296578

https://www.youtube.com/watch/88i0DX4CcNg
When was this imaginary suspension supposed to have been? He streamed this week lol

>> No.49296637

>>49274816
it will be fun if people start memeing any break as suspension until they realize that stealth suspension is dumb

>> No.49296691

>>49296578
Last stream was 5 days ago and he tweeted that today. What are you trying to prove here?

>> No.49296760

>>49294584
You aren’t wrong for thinking that, but again this is Nijisanji EN we’re talking about. It’s probably just a lie of omission or something like what happened with Millie after the Secret GC stream for everyone to save face.
I think >>49296406 is probably closest to the truth, where the livers really are actually burnt out and frustrated at how what should be a dream job has multiple unnecessary layers of bullshit to deal with. And now that we have proof both from management and Zaion that stealth suspensions are real, it’s increasing difficult to take the talents at their word since for all we know it’s like a hostage situation.

>> No.49296813

>>49287106
Not really.
He also sang Renai Circulation with his female voice and it was amazing.
At the current time he is just himself. Not once he said he was male unlike when he was still Yugo. He seems to be healing.

>> No.49296898

>>49287018
More like he asked management for help and they got ass blasted that they were asked to do their job

>> No.49297124

>>49296691
The entire thread is talking about 2 weeks

>> No.49297206

>>49274902
>kill each other to preserve the endless now
Now this. This simply amuses me.

>> No.49297302

I have a feeling there's a graduation imminent (not Ike's but someone else)

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49297419

>>49274902
kek

>> No.49297790
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49297790

This >>49274960 is how you rratpost

>> No.49297882

>>49278076
Do we have a clip or archive of his POV of that stream where he supposedly mutes himself and shittalks Zaion to just his audience without anyone else hearing?

>> No.49298042

>>49280495
> 23kb

>> No.49298164

>>49291317
> silent for 5 days
> fans worry
> management asks him to tweet to placate his fans
> grand total of 1.5 weeks vacation, just like Zaion's first stealth suspension

>> No.49298320

>>49296053
Imagine being this cucked
>My company treat me like shit but I feel guilty because my company is FAMILEEEEEEEEEE
You rrat is fucking stupid.

>> No.49298364

>>49297124
It's not that hard for management to tell him to post on twitter to reduce suspicion.

>> No.49298467

>>49276438
>he

>> No.49298473

>>49298364
>reduce suspicion
Too bad they shot themselves in the foot, every break is a suspension now

>> No.49298755

>>49294584
Its probably to appease the fans they do have, the kinds that will believe them no matter what.

>> No.49298896

>>49297302
Selen.
Right when she tweeted about that contest, she also went to her PL twitter (which she never uses) just to say she is tired.
Next Apex stream is her going
>I wanna be Pred just once in Niji
Tweets
>This day might be my only chance to touch pred in nijisanji so if i wait any longer it will be too far out of reach
Openly says she always supports artists and that she fought management to compensate them for the contest.

Even phrases it
>I am happy that I was able to in the end even though I could always do more.

>> No.49299036

>>49298896
>But her model

Would end up leaving Niji by giving 5k away to fans.
Also explains why Niji wouldn't give an award for it if they believe the next costume wont be used anyway.

Likewise Niji exploits Selen leaving to have fans give design ideas for them.

>> No.49299146

>>49298896
>>I wanna be Pred just once in Niji
Shit, I don't know how I didn't read into that one key detail. I also completely forgot that both Gibara and Lulu got new outfits before they graduated too, and they made it sound like if she didn't get this outfit now then she probably wouldn't for a while.

>> No.49299289

>>49298896
>>49299146
Okay yeah she's gone then kek. I completely forgot about her whole "ok it has to be now" thing with the fan contest

I had a feeling, since Obsydia 3d mysteriously fucked off into the sunset. Management just has no idea what the fuck to do since they know Selen is going to graduate before using that model more than once

>> No.49299399

>>49299036
Selen leaving would cripple NijiEN to some extent, she’s their main tournament/large collab organizer.
Also she’s their top girl after Enna.

>> No.49299595

>>49297882
According to posts by other anons that mentioned this situation, he allegedly nuked the archive immediately after finishing the stream, so probably there's nothing left.

>> No.49299598

>>49299399
>Main
She is the only fucking one who does that

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>>49299289
I buy this rrat.
All the Niji yabs stack up one by one over the past two weeks. She's looking at the yabs and her past projects, and thinking if this company really deserves her.
Colors concert is nowhere to be seen, Obsydia STILL doesn't have 3D models debuted.
And on top of that she gets pushback for self-funding a simple art contest.
After the art contest, she probably just said fuck it. Fuck Nijisanji, fuck engagement, fuck planning events, fuck going the extra mile. I'm just gonna Quiet Quit, I'm gonna sit here and play Apex like an addict until they fire me.
It's kinda based, desu
>>49299399
She's their top female talent. Her leaving would be a massive blow to Nijisanji's reputation and likely prompt several others to follow suit

>> No.49299866

En Vtubers are a joke. If you thought Jp Vtubers are socially awkward avatars. The EN Vtubers take the cake.

>> No.49300040

>>49299753
Forget a blow to Nijisanji's reputation, it'd outright kill the branch's spirit. Like it or not she's the only one that plans out goofy events like Wrestlesanji or the Puyo Puyo Tetris Tourney, or spearheads projects like the Nijisanji VR projects. Take her out of the picture and things would probably get a lot more sterile.

>> No.49300124

>>49300040
I recall there were issues with wrestlesanji wasn’t there? Did she ever say what that was?

>> No.49300325

>>49299399
>>49299598
There's also Pomu who organized that NKODICE tournament a while back, but yeah. Selen does so much shit for the entire branch that it would really fuck them if she left. Without her, everyone will stick to their cliques and branch wide events and large collabs will disappear.

>> No.49300432

>>49300325
It’s weird to me that she gets treated like shit considering even NijiJP knew how important their tournament organizers are.

>> No.49300544

>>49299036
Or she's leaving BECAUSE she knows Niji won't actually rig whatever design wins, but she still wants to do one last thing for her fans.

I also think now that she's been able to talk to Mumei and collabed with Tempus for a month, she's aware of how bad a deal she's got at Niji.

>> No.49300671

>>49300544
On that note, it reminds me of Pekora showing the NijiJP girls just how different the atmosphere is in HoloJP.

>> No.49300703

>>49298896
I don't have that image but
>Yagoo: "Go back home Selen"
Also imagine if that news about new gen in the future is actually Selen secretly scouted by Holo head hunter.

>> No.49300744

>>49300124
I'm not sure. Maybe it was some dumb shit like music or game perms or getting everyone together or something.

>>49300432
This is just a rrat, but I think it's because things have gotten worse ever since that XSOLEIL manager came into the picture, and apparently Selen had to work with him for a bit. And if he's that bad with Zaion, I don't think he's any better with seasoned talents. He's probably some nepo hire that's ruining everything or thinks he's the real reason why the branch will be more successful than it is.
Her streams starting so hopefully she reads /here/ and BTFOs my rrat.

>> No.49300856

>>49300703
>Also imagine if that news about new gen in the future is actually Selen secretly scouted by Holo head hunter.
I would honestly be relieved since she would actually be part of a company that would hopefully appreciate her talents. Although truthfully, anywhere else would be better for Selen at this rate. Even fucking going indie, since now people will probably flock to her roommate.

>> No.49301017

>>49293813
Niji was forced to adapt and make it less obvious

>> No.49301054

>>49300432
Don't underestimate shitty management being shitty. I knew a lot of management who outright hostile at their loyal hardworking employees when they're asking for vacation or simple day off.

>> No.49301233

>>49300744
Damn shame then. I mean Miko Wrestling streams hit 50K live viewers and one of her most successful stream. I think there's one time when it hit 70k live viewers, CMIIW.
Make me wonder, why Vince McMahon and WWE never try Japan's market and went straight to China's market?

>> No.49301249

>>49299753
No she probably decided to fuck off a while ago, maybe with the concert cancellation. Like I said Obsydia not getting their 3d probably is a result of management knowing she's gone in a few months

>> No.49302458

Hold on.
Sayu announced her graduation October 11th then debuted as Zaion December 6th.
It wouldnt be farfetched to say she got approved and signed her contract around the same timespan.

Obsydia debuted July 14 2021.
Selens RM has in her bio "2017 - May 14th 2021".

That is also 2 months.

Anons, did Obsydia contract renewals happen?
And now Selen is hosting that contest?

>> No.49303935

>>49300856
>NotSelen is added to HoloEN3
>Becomes a regular collab partner with Towa and Roboco
The possible Kino...

>> No.49305204

>>49303935
She's close friend to Mumei, so I bet their collab will be very kino as well. And we probably gonna see happier Moomei.

>> No.49308000

>>49299595
There's someone who archives all the Niji males but I doubt they'd share the file now with shitposters.

>> No.49308136

>>49300671
It's funny how we keep saying "They're Vtubers, the only thing that make them different is their agency" and then there's a cross agency collab and we're hit on the face on how different they're. Corporate culture is real.

>> No.49308400

>>49274816
Very sus

>> No.49312781

>>49300432
It was already discussed how burnt out Niji's organizers are, including Toya. Mayuzumi left because of that too.

>> No.49312921

>>49300432
NijiEN is just a completely different culture. If she leaves, I wouldn't blame her.

>> No.49312936

So how much of "Selen to EN3" is just HoloEN fans larping and hoping instead of actual Dragoons making genuine observations about their oshi?

>> No.49313219

>>49312936
Every Dragoon is just a burnt HoloEN enjoyer or someone who gave up on them anyway

>> No.49314357

Aren't they going to tweet something tomorrow morning, so that people won't automatically assume its a stealth suspension?

>> No.49314411

>>49313219
Yep. It'd be poetic that selen ended up my gate way into nijien years go and now my gateway out of it. I'm already halfway out the door with the zaion stuff and the blatant bully culture and selen quiting would be the last straw for me.

>> No.49314757

>>49313219
I can't even disagree with you.

>> No.49314988

>>49302458
Obsydia renewals happened at around the same time Lazulights did, I think she just negotiated for a shorter contract so she can get the fuck out of there when holo3 is ready

>> No.49315052

>>49308000
He should share the Dr.Phil stream at least. Even that anon has to realize Kyo needs to pay for that

>> No.49315843

>>49301233
Bro, 50k is lowballing miko Wwe. Her wwe streams at their peak could hit 90-100k.

>> No.49316221

>>49275043
>blaming on the company and not the retarded who leaked it out
do zaionfags really?

>> No.49316326

>>49276047
>I love how Nijifags can't never rest easy
they are the ones watching niji streams so they actually know what's happening instead of catalogfags making up rrats

>> No.49316360

>>49316221
Retard-chama, if you could read you would know it was in their very own termination statement

>> No.49316386

>>49316221
if the company didn't lie there would be nothing to leak

>> No.49316903

>>49300671
qrd on that pekora thing?

>> No.49317145

>>49316221
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1634147534795841536/photo/1
>We suspended her from streaming activities in January 2023
They never outright said it was a stealth suspension, but they pretty much filled in the blanks. Zaion just confirmed what we all knew.

>> No.49317232

>>49316903
Which stream was it?

>> No.49317518

>>49275043
If you actually watch them you’ll know that most of them have no reason to be suspected of being stealth suspended anyway they haven’t fucked up and had their VODs privated as much as Zaion did

>> No.49319381

>>49274816
not again

>> No.49319608

>>49315843
Holy shit is that so? Damn it is that popular.
>>49316326
What if Nijisisters are actually just danger junkie? They just love being on edge all the time getting their heart rate racing everytime there's a new yab coming out.

>> No.49319645

>>49316903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzLD-gvQl4

>> No.49319761

>>49317518
so true sis

>> No.49319899

>>49319645
Doesn't surprise me Nui was getting along with them. She almost got into Hololive a long time ago.

>> No.49321602

>>49319899
Nui going to quit Niji and joining Holo soon rrat?

>> No.49322146

>>49317518
When a banal reason such as criticizing Ubisoft's UNO got recorded in the Book of Grudges, who fucking knows if something crossed the line or not.

>> No.49322207

>>49317518
>>49322146
Imagine the nijigirls sweating bullets when Kiara went on a tirade shitting on Ubisoft and uno during their last collab... Oh where's the follow-up collab they promised? They can't have blacklisted Kiara for that incident, could they...?

>> No.49322253

>>49322207
Remember when everyone think that Hololive is the one being strict about stuff and now we found out that they're far more lenient than Nijisanji who were known for their lewd jokes?

>> No.49322425

>>49317518
>Company lists person making a dees nuts joke as a valid reason for employment termination
>"Hey trust them guys they totally would never punish a talent for retarded reasons!"
nah that doesn't track anon. wish it did tho. besides ike was part of the "covid huh" rebel tweeting, who knows what might have happened behind the scenes to make management hate him.

>> No.49322509

>>49321602
https://youtu.be/VQEuy2-H1zo
I think some of the points still stand today, such as Nijisanji having a more relaxed streaming style, and obviously bring more idol like, even despite the memes and efforts to suggest otherwise. Obviously we can shitpost all day about how the tables have turned or whatever, but for the most part JP seems functional and I'd be willing to bet most of JP are at least content.

>> No.49322555

>>49322509
>and obviously bring more idol like
I meant being less idol like, of course.

>> No.49322953

>>49322509
uuuuh...
>Relaxing streaming style
Ayame and Gura go on long hiatuses without problem
>Being more idol like
Are you living in bizzarro world?
>JP seems functional
Tell that to Mirei Gundo, Suzuhara Lulu and Otogibara Era
>Most of JP are at least content
Nijisanji graduation parade.....

>> No.49324901

>>49276438
>he

>> No.49324972

>>49274816
It must be so hard for them now that the cat is fully out of the bag. They lie to you knowing you know they are lying, but they also know you know they have to lie.

>> No.49325242

>>49317518
So true sis just like Yugo

>> No.49325999

>>49324972
What make me sad is that lying is not something everyone can do casually. It took a toll on their psyche to lie to a lot of people. Especially if they believe in your lie and even cheer you on. Imagine getting demoralized while reading your fans replying to you hoping you for the best.

No wonder the one who's fine with lying are the one who's also fine with shitty behaviour. Slowly Nijisanji is building a mean girl clique while the honest one have to suffer in silence.

>> No.49327732

>>49325242
Kek

>> No.49328775

>>49325999
It’s also why it’s very fucking bad that Enna is becoming their “top girl”. She’s menhera, and not in in an exaggerated jokey sense but more in a “she’s genuinely mentally ill”, and the last thing a person like that needs is tons of eyes on them and a ton of power, it’s only a matter of time before she eventually hurts others or herself.

>> No.49328867

Wonder what stupid shit he got suspended for

>> No.49328920

>>49274816
Sometimes a pen is just that a pen

>> No.49328933

>>49317518
Did you conveniently forget about the Vox instagram doxx shit that happened because of his carelessness in disclosing his identity to some thot? He definitely got suspended for it, radio silence for god knows how long.

>> No.49328992

>>49328920
And sometimes in NijiEN, it's a stealth suspension. You never truly know. That's the problem.

>> No.49330748

>>49328775
Don't forget adding Kyo. Sure he's a dude but he act meaner than the real mean girls lol.

>> No.49330848

>>49328920
But in Nijisanji a pen is triggering the management so much because they believe it killed their dog and drunk the last bottle of their favourite drink. So the pen must be slandered, insulted and fired from Nijisanji.

>> No.49330897

>>49274816
literally who

>> No.49331150

fix that awful font aliasing dramafaggot

>> No.49331178 [DELETED] 
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49331178

>>49317518
Remember when millie did her 4chan stream and mysteriously have to take a vacation to see her family dog that dying

>> No.49331300

>>49317518
Gwelu take his vacation after he did his 5ch pekora song, only to be announce he was returned from suspension few hour before his stealth suspension ended. They never even annouced he was suspended for 2 frikin months.

>> No.49331440

>>49328775
You and your clique shit, when Zaion got terminated you immediately jumped to it being Enna's fault when neither of them have interacted at all.

>> No.49331635

Idiotic gossiping

>> No.49331886

>>49317518
Post exoskeleton, nijinsect.

>>49331635
It's management's fault there's anything to gossip about in the first place. The lies have to stop.

>> No.49332509

>>49331886
I hope they draw and quarter the 2 week manager lmao.

It sounds like he's caused innumerable issues for Selen and LOLISEX

I mean Xsoleil

>> No.49333217

>>49317518
>all these replies
I’m not mass replying so I’ll just reply here but it went one thing that got Zaion stealth suspended
It was an accumulation of things that didn’t sit well with management at the very beginning of her career
Members might have a mega fuck up like Millie with the GC stream but if they did something minor like shit on a game and that’s it there’s no reason to suspect anything if you’re not a drooling retard.

>> No.49333263

>>49333217
>went
*wasn’t yeah I’m phoneposting suck it

>> No.49333344

>>49331635
None of this gossiping would be happening if they didn't stealth suspend people.

>> No.49333591

>>49331440
The key difference is that while they never interacted, Kyo is really close to Enna. I doubt she was happy that her boy toy had his feelings hurt, though realistically XSOLEIL’s manager already had it out for Zaion. I’m just sure he conveniently ignored Kyo’s RM posting.
Plus the cliqueshit is real. Nina said she was basically left out of any activities that Ethyria had. The fact that they tried to push NijiUK kind of proves that.

>> No.49336106

>>49276438
>he

>> No.49338311

>>49333591
I think the XSOLEIL 2 week guy must've really been nepotism.

Who in their right mind would give a group to a 2 weeks person who should still be in training and getting spoonfed and simply observing things?

>> No.49339798
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49339798

>Ike "I'm never going to play Hogwarts Legacy please clap!" Evelend is next to go
Interesting

>> No.49340837

>>49276673
"covid"

>> No.49342400

>>49325999
This is why Rosemi is so sad nowadays

>> No.49344636
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49344636

>>49333217
>didn’t sit well with management
So true sis, like contacting your former manager for advice, right? What a grave mistake, add that to the Book of Grudges!

>> No.49344897

>>49333591
Kek, you just know if someone is a part of the clique or not. Just apply any small mistakes/offensive things they have ever done and check if the VOD was deleted/they went on a sudden break.

>> No.49344905

>>49344636
Yeah venting on a personal level to your previous manager about your work probably isn’t a good idea

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49346266

>>49339798
Reminds me of this pic I made

>> No.49346455

What kind of company lets the managers treat their talents (the actual moneymakers) like shit instead of just treating the managers like shit and holding them to higher standards

>> No.49346866

>>49344905
Extremely common and an okay practice in every place I have worked in
t. Sweden

>> No.49347338

>>49346455
Unfortunately, Anycolor.
If anything it makes you realize why their JP branch started to lose traction after 2020. They caught it back for a bit after Salome, and then they immediately lost it when they decided the best course of action was VTA/ACCELERATE

>> No.49347586

>>49321602
I think Nui is a pretty solid upper-middle member of NijiJP so no reason for her to risk it and move to Holo.

Holo, while potentially more lucrative, is also filled with things that a normal streamer never really think about, such as rules and image control and all the off-stream activities. You can check the difference in perspective when Subaru had the interview with Yorumi Rena.

>> No.49348145

>>49322555
Honestly, the way Nijisanji is operating, their operations are way more idol-like compared to Hololive right now. Nijisanji slows down but they still have a steady constant debut of new members, all fresh from their own VTA school program. All merchs are standardised too with almost all profits goes to the company. There are differences in rule and type of company, like vtubers do have option to get donations from streaming compared to normal idol, but Nijisanji definitely cribbing alot of its operation method from traditional idol agencies. Compare those to Hololive, where they didn't have any debutees for 2022, and only list plan of "we'll debuts new generation within a year"

>> No.49348217

>>49276880
>Yeah, I am sure Ike is suspended mid may for a tweet made in February.
I mean, him taking a "break" immediately afterwards would've made it too obvious and cause backlash. Better to wait a while to suspend him.

>> No.49348350

>>49316221
>leaking black company action is le bad

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49348749

>>49331440

>> No.49349161

>>49296813
>Not once he said he was male
So why are you using "he"?

>> No.49349533

>>49277267
>2%jisanji
Fun fact, 2% in Japanese would be "ni pa-sento", with the second word often shortened to just "pa-". So, in Jap you'd be calling them Nipasanji, which only changes one syllable, and is also close to niggasanji. If 5chanbros cared about NijiEN I'm sure they'd use it, though I'm not sure if it can catch on here.

>> No.49349600

>>49346455
>What kind of company lets the managers treat their talents (the actual moneymakers) like shit
pretty much all of them.

>> No.49349873

>>49333217
>Zaion: "It's hard to change my user name in Uno"
Management: "Holy shit she said things that make the game look bad! Suspend suspend suspend!"
>Zaion: "Hey management, you said it's okay to use my old account, but now you said I can't use it anymore and my VOD was removed while my fellow livers use their old account and the video's still up. Can you fix this?"
Management: "AAAAAAAA now she's asking a complicated question! She gonna make us look bad! Suspend suspend suspend!"
>Zaion: "Hey manageme...."
Management: "AAAAAAA YOU'RE NOT FAMILEEEEEEE ANYMOOOOOORE! GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!"

>> No.49350034

>>49344905
Actually it's allowed to talk to your regional manager if you suspect that your manager is incompetent. Especially if you have mountain of evidences to show.
Either you never work corporate before or you're too young to post here.

>> No.49350112

>>49349873
Ignoring everything else I see
And yes even if you think those are unfair reasons to be suspended the original point still stands that it was an accumulation of things that led to it and it’s unlikely for most of the others to be suspended because of that

>> No.49350164

>>49346455
You will be surprised.
A lot of company went under because the middle management is a fucking mess and treat their employees like shit. There's saying: "People don't quit job, they quit people"

>> No.49350407

>>49348145
But your so called "idol like" management was ancient and have a lot of problems. Their tactic is very similar to Korean K-Pop industry where they also keep churning new groups every year. A lot of people, both in Japan and other countries criticize this kind of management because it need to keep up with time and how easy it is for people to know what happened behind the curtain thanks to social media.

>> No.49350934

>>49350112
You should air fry your shoe leather next time, mix up the flavor a little bit.

>> No.49353709

>>49286608
Abso-fucking-lutely, I'm so mad that Ike did practically nothing with his music skills, man has a banger voice and a niche taste in music that barely anyone floats in - and then he did like two covers in two years, what the fuck is that, man

>> No.49357650

>>49350934
Not an argument

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