/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

bots

>>49271821
>>49271832
stop posting this whore.

>>49271821
Recent clip numbers
>>49265194
>>49265218
>>49265246
>>49265276
>>49265299

Threads surely are flying today

why doesn't nijis leave the company if they know they aren't treated well?

Because they still pay better than most jobs out there with lax schedules? Yes. Who would even take in Kuzuha and the rest with their profiles. Toko wouldn't even be taken in by a band, let alone a record album. To them, niji is their own hope and their source of income. They'd rather eat shit than eat blacker shit out there.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>36,617: Miko (Hololive)
>27,205: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,920: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,569: Mio (Hololive)
>19,806: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>17,339: Botan (Hololive)
>13,800: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,650: Noel (Hololive)
>12,205: Chiroru (Indie)
>11,940: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,463: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,635: Calliope (Hololive)
>10,474: Hal (Neo-Porte)

>>49271852
this. Skyward sword Zelda is the cutest this is one is a bitch

is the idol showdown seethe over yet?

who is spamming the catalog

>>49271908
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown
9) Miko (Hololive) - 41,419 - Idol Showdown
10) Miko (Hololive) - 56,389 - Getting Over It (w/ Kanata and Polka)
11) Miko (Hololive) - 36,617 - TTS Story Time

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
3x: Marine
2x: Pekora
1x: Koyori

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
100x: Hololive
22x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
37x: Pekora
13x: Marine, Miko
6x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

Nijinigaw loods today, sad state /#/bros...

>>49271915
They've been doing that ever since Cover's report dropped. They don't want eyes looking at that report.

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>5/11 DAILY TALLY
10,635: Mori (Hololive)
9,096: IRyS (Hololive)
8,131: Ina (Hololive)
7,138: Kronii (Hololive)
7,752: Fauna (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,140 - Minecraft
10) IRyS (Hololive) - 10,985 - Karaoke
11) Mori (Hololive) - 10,635 - Idol Showdown (w/ Ina)

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Fauna, IRyS
1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia, Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
21p: IRyS
15p: Fauna
13p: Mori
12p: Mumei
8p: Ina
5p: Luca, Gura, Amelia, Baelz
4p: Shu
1p: Kiara

>>49271888
/wg/ is two blocks away

>>49271978
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
94x: Hololive
35x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
13x: Mori
12x: Fauna, IRyS
10x: Gura
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Ina, Amelia
7x: Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara, Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
127p: Fauna
98p: IRyS
96p: Mori
91p: Ina
90p: Mumei
84p: Baelz
64p: Vox
60p: Amelia
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
49p: Kiara
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
22p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

Is Petra speaking Chinese?

>>49271984
Nijiseethe, your organs are completely disposable

>>49271888
>why doesn't nijis leave the company if they know they aren't treated well?
Some do. Some don't. Some are fine with it. Some are not fine with it.
Just because things aren't great that doesn't mean they're bad.

>>49271888
bora...

First Army can just buy out their favorite non-Holo chuuba with the money they made

>>49271807
There are obviously some low IQ monkeys running things at a lower level but if the top of the company is just gonna let it happen then we can assume they're on board too.

>>49272076

>>49271984
>49271888
Super effective, i felt second hand embarrassment.

Sometimes I wonder if Holostars EN is not COMPLETELY on autopilot, without any adult at the helm.
It's not just that they're drifting aimlessly, their choices look like what someone sabotaging the whole concept would suggest.
FUCKING ZELDA is a debuff enough, doing it head to head with a myriad of JP streamers, on JP primetime, is practically malicious.

WORSE! Zelda is a long running game meaning it's not like Stray, a one stream "wham bam thank you maam" endeavor: this will last for SEVERAL streams.
I'm starting to think even the most retarded anon in this thread would be a more competent personal manager or middle manager for that branch.
>hey mane-san, what about some Zelda on JP prime time?
>ARE YOU RETARDED? Stick with stuff that is proven to not sink you to sub 500!

>>49271888
comfort/fear of the unknown
>why dont you leave your house, your job and your city if you can possibly have a better life somewhere else?

>>49271888
Believe it or not that's how Black Company works.
They are making you feel like shit and create an enigma where you can't survive without them while in reality you can strive without them.
Someone like Selen, Enna, or even the lowest barrel Scarle can survive without them if one day they decides for indie route.

>>49271955
>>49270662
>>49268885
Falseeyed gold? Falseeyed gold.

reminder, no matter the company, the really interesting thing is not the data in the financial reports, it is the data that is left out

8 snow-meter...

>>49272110
its a new game, stop sperging

>>49272110
>most retarded anon in this thread
He's not here anymore but his name is Noor and he's indian.

>>49272027
Patra can't speak chinese anon...

>>49268885
>>49272128
his hands are bigger than his legs lol

>>49272027
Israel

Her fayin is kinda standard. Not bad.

>>49272139
what could be left out? names? there's really not much more.

>>49272113
>>49272116
>>49272050
that's what the talents amount to. There's nothing to prove being in Nijisanji. They only give you a small spotlight, just a 3D debut or even one or two performances within 2 years of their contract. That's like 2 or 3 days out of 2 years.

>>49272212
homo

Honestly anykara and brave group are both shit companies I don't know why anyone would even want to argue about who should get gold between the two of them

[Sad News] Sora is ending now

>>49272236
as I said. There's really not much more.

>>49266297
>pretends gender is relevant here.
>doesn't mention the women for Suisei, who has an even higher percentage of female fans.

Get the bug spray ready

>Sending me heart signs earlier and now this
Uhh why she trying to do GFE? Is it because of low #s!? I want her to keep playing Zelda then

>>49271907
Yeah, fuck Zelda! Post more Mipha!

>>49272264
true

>>49272110
>autopilot
It is unironically talent freedom. They are free to stream shitty games. The homos, the holoEN girls, all have shit taste in game so that is on them not on the management.

If you don't want Paul Li level of management you better let them stream their numberpoison.

Who will be back first, Gundou or Roa

[Sad News] AZKi is ending too

>>49272110
Hololive, for better or worse, has been pretty lenient towards their chuuba's streaming content choices as long as they satisfy perm requirements and aren't controversial. They only give suggestions at most, but they aren't forcing you to stream something (or to stream at all) for numbers, for better or worse
If the chuubas (not just homos, but holos too) debuff themselves, it's on them

>>49272314
Gundou, probably after this year's koshien

>>49272272
How is this GFE? How deprived are you of female interactions?

>>49272110
Remember that statement Cover put out about how every talent decides their own brand? It’s a double edged sword. You can choose to be a numberfag like Pekora or a runt like Roboco and management isn’t gonna step in to stop you from destroying your own popularity.

I'm start to think every Japanese vtuber corpo are black Company except Cover..

>>49272314
Aloe.

>>49271978
Another day another niji cripple.

>>49272311
Name 1 game that you can play once a week as a holo streamer and get 10k+ every time aside from minecraft

I'll wait

>>49271888
Presumably because of 2 year contracts and non-competes
Though I don't recall how Luna got out of Riku's pudgy fingers unless her niji contract predated the above

>>49272161
>its a new game, stop sperging
Anon, you are absolutely missing the point. Look at this shit, the Holostars EN not only are, DEEP INTO JAPANESE PRIMETIME, playing a JRPG but they're fucking overlapping each other with it.

That's retarded as fuck, one of the few instance where a "grown up" from management should pull rank and say
>you guys are too retarded to plan your own week, I'm withdrawing perms for this game for 2 weeks

>>49272370
subaru playing JRPG at weekends

Rough guesstimates on Talent/Company profit sharing based on Cover's FY2023 financial report and some known data such as channel profit sharing.
Source: https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/4f1872d7/00b1/4608/ae53/91e8fe62579e/20230512160316925s.pdf

if we assume holomems gets an even split between them and Cover on all earning generated from their yt channel and twitch, 10% out of concert sales, and 5% out of sponsor deals, then we can estimate that merch profit sharing is around 30:70 (that is, holomems gets 30% of merch revenue after production costs/raw materials etc, 70% goes to Cover for operational expenses (merch staffs, etc))
This includes averages from all commerce sales such as voice packs, general merchs, custom merchs, event merchs, etc.

>>49272128
false's 3d looks better...

please cover, debut new girls next week. It's time. You need to do it.

>>49272344
Mother fucker there are 3views that got their 3D live from other companies.

>>49271935
>like 650$
ooof.

It's not like she has that many illustrator jobs nowadays, least she could do is break even on the vtuber gig.

>>49272314
I miss that ship. Before Gundou had to ruin it.

>>49272253
VSPO has no interference from Brave Group, they kept the same management from before being bought

>>49272314
None, Road is collecting all her friends. Next is Banderas and Ars Almal

>>49271888
All I can say is I'm glad Lulu went the fuck out of that black company.

>>49272370
>Name 1 game that you can play once a week as a holo streamer and get 10k+ every time aside from minecraft
Literally any game Pekora plays can do that.

>>49272382
they wanted to start before kiara lol

>>49272212
everything that would make the company look bad of course
for example they could show the revenue per branch/group or revenue per geographical region
also why not show a more detailed breakdown of the revenue flow to show how much cost there is per "unit sold"
all any company will do is provide only the legally needed data and then cherry picked additional data that makes them look good
smart investors try to figure out what isn't shown in financial reports

>>49272110
>complaining about the hottest game on the market

>>49272382
>Axel 384
Not even passed for lig

>>49272427
Just hope Brave group doesn’t get any funny ideas in the future

honestly, i want to do a speedrun on how long i could talk shit about axel and tempus in his chat before i get banned. He could probably see my chat, seeing as to how his chat is slow right now. I might go for a $2 membership to bypass slowmode

>Spats
Do they hate these girls?

>>49272376
It took about a year before Lulu’s roommate got a 2D model, no?

>>49272343
You gotta wonder what kind of numbers Roboco could pull if she didn't mindlessly grind shitty FPS games.

>>49272423
Best i caught were some clips and it looked super forced.

>>49272400
too long, didn't read, you mean that cover is a black company and is paying even less than anycolor?

The tail is really sexy tho

Looking back at the past dramas of Nijis and blaming the talents for something. Are we sure that the Roa was innocent and not because she was abusing her power? She hasn't won yet against that girl who she accused of copying her voice(wtf?) Right? They clearly threw the other one under the bus

I heard that lulu got married to her stalker. She is having his baby, that's why she graduated.

>>49272548
Basically yes

>>49271888
Mayuzumi now is a model and spoken person for uniqlo.
Lulu got half her numbers but has more project done

>>49272266
they apparently go to concerts more often (3rd gen concert), and buy more merch too because they are unhinged. Both Suisei and Marine have big female fanbases, I don't think it's a coincidence.

>>49272382
Axel is down with Aruran now

>>49272370
Subaru and Pekora playing one on the boring ass jrpg that they love so much.

>>49272493
find a better thing to do with your life or kys

>>49271888
>why doesn't nijis leave the company if they know they aren't treated well?
because they cannot afford to pay the ransom to leave.

>>49272110
All this below the Kaela minesweeper line

>>49272492
I read the disclosure of the merger and read the names of the CEOs on both sides and what they wrote.
They're butt buddies and that's the whole reason they went through with it. They likely signed the merger after a night out in the local onsen, discussing the details naked inside a delicious warm mineral water pool, then signed and celebrated the deal by doing a thicc line of coke on the belly of a hostess looking suspiciously similar to Nose

>>49271888
Moruru... Yugo...

>>49272400
>Cover paid less than Anykara to their liver.
HOLY BLACK COMPANY!

Why is this new Zelda game such a debuff? I thought for sure that it being new would at least give it decent numbers for a few streams. Why does something like Elden Ring get buff numbers on release but this doesn't despite them being somewhat similar?

>>49272583
ok, thanks, now i have something to share on my twitter chu~

>>49272625
>doing a thicc line of coke on the belly of a hostess looking suspiciously similar to Nose
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME

>>49271888
>gibara
>lulu
>moruru
>melissa
>warabeda
>mayuzumi
>zaion
>yugo
if they could retire others can too

>>49272400
I guessed $34m by eyeballing the graphs.

Still seems like way too much since at least 20 of those people probably barely break even with the resources they're given.

>>49272570
Roa: STOP STEALING GENSHIN (My voice) FROM MEEEE

>>49272400
>cover cucks keeps spamming 1%/2%
>turns out their company gave even less profits to their talents
Is this karma in action??

>>49272400
Now I will spread this on twitter. Cover is black company

Do nijinigs really?

>>49272570
Meiro has a history of starting shit as her rm so I’m not convinced she was completely innocent.

>>49271888
>they aren't treated well
Compare to what? E
D Compare to Cover? D
YYeah sure if they graduate from Nijisanji can they go to Hololive or Holostars (kek) directly? It is not possible.

Compare to 774, Vspo, Riot, or Brave in general? Do you think they are less of a black company than Nijisanji?
Aogiri? Do they even hire?
Noripro? Can you get in as a nobody?

For nijiEN, is there any company that manage EN talents that is better?
Vshojo? Arguably but they are not taking people from YT
Phase? Roru
Kawaii? Do they want to be in that company
Going indie just like what Kson ordered? So losing all the sweet sweet connection like she did?

Nijisanji is the best choice if you didn't luck out and landed in Hololive because they literally take anyone from the street and make them vtubers. This is also they have a very bad quality control for their vtubers.

is this schizo gonna keep samefagging his own >guesstimates post now?

>>49272665
One of the two is actually stimulating to tourist. Guess which one.

>Holos get a 38% cut on merch
>Cover is terrible now
?

>>49272769
you gonna deny facts now?

>>49272570
Roa and Meiro. One of them must be in the wrong. There is no other way.

nijikeks status?

>>49272272
she is turning into a hag expect more clinginess in the future

>>49272613
fuck you sister

>>49272400
>if we assume...then we can estimate....This includes averages
can you niggers just shut up

>>49272796
Apparently everything below 100% is black company status now?

>>49272858
Science started with guessing too you know.

>>49272339
Well you have to pardon us nousagi, we are used to her being a bratty woman who deserve a beating, so when she actually act girly it feel weird and intimate

>>49272704
I got that 32M USD figure by measuring pixels. It could have gone anywhere between 32-34M USD depending on whether I accounted for the borders in the bars or decimal errors. So you're very close.

>>49272665
People don't want to watch a physics simulator they want to play it themselves

>>49272665
It's a sequel to a boring game everyone already got tired of watching

>>49272570
>>49272758
>>49272813
Maybe maybe not but both are too radioactive and probably stealth fired by anycolor already

>>49272784
Why though? Just watching the girls die the bosses? Decades old Mario games get better numbers than this, even without a tournament.

Ok burger that just woke up here….. so Cover really does take more than Anycolor form their livers?? WTF MAN!!

>>49272400
You got no clue about percentage split so this whole thing is honestly is a waste of time on your side.

Tempiss status?

>>49272488
>complaining about the hottest game on the market
They all should have learned from BotW that TotK is going to be one of those 'fun to play, boring to watch' type of games.

>>49272881
It actually started when people decided to stop guessing

>>49272710
>>49272714
>>49272647
>>49272548
>>49272583
>>49272677
Hi discord!

>>49272917
I meant Roa as well. Meiro is already fired

yeah...
im going to listen to guesstimates from /#/ fags during SEA hours AND im gonna listen to dramafags that post about 1%.
god i wish i was retarded like some of you guys

>>49272945
Dude, do you think hypotheses don't start as a guess first?

>>49272400
>Replies
Explain to me how 30% is less than 2%

>per streamer
atleast let us see the rankings yagooo so ican shit on shitters

No holostream?

>>49272919
I watched Noel and Koyo's stream. The game isn't really fun to see. Both of them are too engrossed in the game to talk to the audience as well.

>>49272665
it's like with Death Stranding, it's fun to play but not to watch

>>49272996
then you confirm it.
not write a story about it.

>>49272986
Imagine this thread was face to face and some 4'11 pag pag flared nostrils kid starts shouting kek kek kekaroo

>>49272986
>post about 1%
That is sapling deflection post.

>>49272370
That's not really fair since not all of the Hololive girls can get 10k playing Minecraft once a week.

>>49272400
kek you are assuming shit like
>10% out of concert sales, and 5% out of sponsor deals
you are retarded

>>49273007
It's Tempiss and some IDs. HomoJP at least has dedicated merch buyers, superchatters and concert goers

They don't want you seeing this cause if makes their organ look bad

Matsuri is doing the thing
https://twitcasting.tv/natsuiromatsuri

>>49273048
Yeah, that is the scientific method. But we must start at the first step first: now we are forming our hypothesis.

>>49272919
Fromsoft games are great and they're full of memorable moments, it's always fun to see people go through them, especially if they aren't already souls veterans. Kanata's recent From arc has been doing great because of that. What the fuck is there to see in a Zelda stream? It's a game for children and people who don't play video games, what memorable moments are there in the new Zelda that people want to witness in a stream?

>>49272116
Have you ever thought maybe they aren’t a black company.
Why would they want to survive when they are making good money in nijisanji. Mysta bought a house and whatever it’s only 40k usd but if you can pull that out and not feel it you’re not surviving. Selen fought to spend $5k of her own money for an event she planned for herself. Her disposable income is near the monthly median. If you leave hololive every number is down, some that are gone have to cope by always bragging about their funds, and if you leave nijisanji your base numbers could be better or worse but your income is definitely dropping. Unless you were a 2 view shitter no real way to help you.

Indies aren’t doing as good as you think. Iron mouse is the top among a pile of shitters where it took her doing a subathon that lasted for a month or so to bring in 6 figures same with shylily. She still struggled to buy a good house. The guy streamer shylily does gacha and games with bought a mansion and was making 6-7 figures yearly got divorced and is now living in not a mansion. These are best case scenarios for indies with a realistic situation is being closer to miori. Seems to make good money but still needs a job

>>49273002
the >30% is his full assumption even, just read the text

>>49272400
Well pulling number out of their ass, as per tradition of /#/

>>49272370
Holocure, multiplayer games etc.
Unless you're talking about EN the Broken Box

>>49273057
Miss Ceres, mother nature and certified furry.

>>49272400
Assumeniggers...

>>49272762
It is like asking why there are people flipping burger when they only pay minimum wages.

>>49273113
Yeah, Zelda has always been overrated trash since day 1, every game, every console generation, the quintessential, god king of reddit gaming.

>SoraCh. ときのそらチャンネル: コメントしてくれる気持ちが・・・うれしいよ!!わーい!!

What's with all these numbers being thrown around

>>49272881
No science started from people doing experiments. They actually did shit and got experience. They didn't sit in their mud hut imagining fake numbers. And science definitely didn't start from a retarded brownskin who has never run a business trying to figure out how much anime e girls make
You have no idea what their various splits on all these things are and no party involved has given any indication. 5% on sponsor deals for example seems boderline nonsensical to me since sponsors specifically select the girls they want to work with. Go to /wg/ if you want to peddle this dogshit

>>49273118
>they are making good money in nijisanji. Mysta bought a house
That's not a sign that they're making good money, anyone can buy a house in most of the civilized world, and in the first world, if you are young enough, with ZERO downpayment

>compiling data
>make a good spreadsheet
>in the end it came down into absolute clownery like that fauna "drama" replies compilation
you retards can't help yourself huh?

>>49273217
Are you lost? We are in the number thread.

>>49272400
I can accept the 10% concert sales assumption - sounds reasonable enough for a layman, but why did you assume that talents only get 5% of sponsorship deals?

I want some indie dev who likes to dark souls to also make an indie dark souls-like games

Oh my fucking god the blogposter nijiniggers is back again

>>49273089
can you confirm this? because this >>49272400 feels more real

>>49273217
Tactics of Disinformation

>>49273223
>They didn't sit in their mud hut imagining fake numbers
They literally did. What do you think is imaginary numbers? Do you think they come out with the concept by thinking about it or playing with chemicals?

Sounds of Matsuri masturbating with shower...

>>49272926
It's based on guessing how much they get from other sources of income like sponsorships and events. We know they spend ~32M USD on their talents this year, and 16M USD of those are from channel revenues. That leaves the other 16M USD on events, license, and commerce. Cover gets 60M USD in sales on commerce, so a maximum of 16M out of 60M commerce sales goes to the talent.
Feel free to try guess your own, and I'll run it on the excel.

Jesus the sheer desperation... nijikeks got utterly mindbroken by the 1% reveal huh...
Thanks Mysta!

>>49273320
context?

>>49273229
Sister you should care about your organs getting only 1% compared to what Cover give their talents.

>>49272343
>>49272518
Cover doesn’t care because each female talent is bringing in a minimum $100k usd. Not streaming or even streaming every day won’t do much to change the revenue they can bring in. But there are exceptions gura, pekora, marine, miko, suisei, korone, lamy, kanata, chloe, aqua, and koyori can actually increase the revenue solely through streaming. These 10 get great supers, really great vods, or mid point of the two.

>>49273113
>No memorable moments in a Zelda game.
This poster has got to be a zoomer. Also, I didn't think I'd see /v/ seethe in a /vt/ numbers thread...

>>49272400
You sound like the tranny that couldn't get Miko's picture for their news article

>>49273325
Where did this $32m come from? I'm seeing $82m talent share in the report

>>49273396
>I didn't think I'd see /v/ seethe in a /vt/ numbers thread
how new?

>posting numbers
>get called out for posting numbers
Yeah maybe discussing inane shits that has nothing to do with the thread is better.

>>49272400
OK, Dexerto Ducky!

>>49273383
fucking retard, I'm referring to >>49272400

>>49273243
It's made by a dumb 2%gger

>>49273325
Merch cut and everything else doesn't really matter unless we know for sure from a confirmed source. There are too many unknowns. We do know that the performers get $30m-$35m~ which implies that they're getting enough from all sources for it to not be an issue.

>>49273472
pulling numbers out of your ass isn't a good move here

the nips also think of suspect as the holocure song... they also liked shijousugi adtruck

Looking at these 3D debut numbers just reinforces how underwhelming Laplus's 3D debut was and how much of the holobox rejected her at the time

>>49273396
Sorry nintoddler but video games have come a long way, making ALttP but in 3D for the 10th time but also this time you can climb walls and cut down trees isn't the ground breaking industry defining triumph you think it is

Like I said earlier, I'm Japanese who work in the Vtubing industry, in fact I work for Cover corp so /#/chad can trust me. Cover pay each of their talents including homos $1000000 a year. And even though I don't know any information about Top niji like Kuzuha salary, based on my experience in the industry I can safely assume that Anycolor pay the top dog like him less than $100 a year. You guys can end the discussion now

>>49273474
Sure sister, maybe you should go and watch Alban instead. He is losing against even Enna now.

>>49273456
Hey, usually it's seething about vtubers or vtuber corpos, not the games themselves other than whether they are buff or not.

post shit get hit, now go back to discord

I want /v/ to leave.

>>49273516
well, lapras was bit menhera at that time

>>49273534
yeah you're too retarded to be even a domesticated holofag
don't reply to me again nijinigger

>>49273472
Yeah let's discuss how fat Fungus Covid is since we can pull numbers out freely from your ass. I'm estimating a grand total of 2000 N of force or around 200 kg

>>49273548
he's right, holobros, it's time to go back to discord

>>49273367
https://twitcasting.tv/natsuiromatsuri

>>49272400
Ducky?
https://twitter.com/dvckyVT/status/1655824455858520064

eh, in the end the dramaniggers will only publish video of something that has actual proof
>mysta 1% clip for example
so feel free to run with the rrat sister

>>49272888
You're just a hikki-NEET moron that keeps over-analyzing everyone's actions. This isn't GFE in the least bit.

how do you see stock of nijisanji store merch in developer tools?

>Holocure numbers
>1million views
LAST SAMURAI DORYAAAAA

>>49273541
if you've seen /v/, holo vs niji is the sony vs microsoft, and I blame /v/niggers and Kiwifarm tourists for the state of this board.

>>49273541
>>49273573
Retards these are just /v/ console war threads complete with sales chart analysis and blatant false flagging, it's just that instead of nintenyearolds and xbots you have holofags and nijiniggers

>>49272762
>This is also they have a very bad quality control for their vtubers.
>blaming the chuubas
sasuga, kurosanji

>>49273606
so this faggot is really on Anykara payroll right?

>>49273642
>JP>EN
Ahahahahaha. It was a game developed for the ENs initially right?

>>49273606
>rev split 1%

>>49273518
Go back to your containment board retard. You guys say you hate vtubers anyway.

>>49273420
Here

How fucking mad are people about this whole Sayu-2%-good financial report? It's just talking anime heads who sometimes play games, no reason to get this worked up about it.

>>49273688
Yes, each holo liver only earns $1300 a quarter

>>49273691
I'm in my containment board right now

>>49273658
I am curious how did you interpret that sentence as "blaming the chuubas".

>>49273685
Kay Yu is a nousagis who admitted to starting with EN so that EOPs will at least play it

>>49273606
Oh, of course it's this retard.

so between this 2 "guessed data" which one do
you chose anon?
>>49272400
>>49273089

>>49273728
Less mad than RobberRoss -> we cannot be friends -> banned Babski that is.

>>49273606
>Merch split: 72.5%
Holy kek somebody really want those gift cards

>>49273606
Link to this faggots twitter? I wanna Watch this bullshit

>>49273293
It sounds more real only because the reality is that much worse. Being worse doesn't change things in reality though.

>>49273825
>Link to this faggots twitter? I wanna Watch this bullshit
Anon, it's literally in the post you quoted

So cover debuted 8 more talents and their q4 was spectacular. Despite this the average jumped from 200 to 272 per talent. If all other numbers stayed the same, though we know that to not be true, the most those new members could make the company is $66k per person. If you account for time the first 4 would be 99k while the second 4 would be 33k. Releasing another Irys would have been cheaper and would have made around the same revenue. How do you rationalize that in a board meeting

>>49273825
bro...
literally posted with the picture...
what the hell is wrong with you

>>49273762
Yeah that is what I've heard. In the end the engagement from JP side is better than from EN side. He was right though need to get the EOPs interested first then siphon all the success to the JP side. That is actually what Yagoo did too.

>>49272446
>>49272506
>>49272582
>>49272633
>>49272696
Can someone spoonfeed me who is this Lulu.He/She has been mention so many times whenever Niji termination or graduate mention,what happen to her?

https://twitter.com/ike_eveland/status/1656993511596597251

Ike having a sudden "break"

>>49273812
I don't care about that either. Just think a bit. Is all this really worth your effort?

>>49273697
So if events are so expensive, doesn't this mean that Cover has a lot more faith in EN than this board believes? They're giving them their own event afterall.

>>49273606

>>49273877
oh no, they found the leak

>>49273642
you forgot this one
https://twitter.com/denfaminicogame/status/1656815967631216640

If Risu can buy 2 houses in Indoland, I'm sure she's making bank and that's all I care about

>>49273472
>Pull number out of his ass
>Get called out for it
>Wtf bros I just want to discuss numbers

>>49273606
>my side

>>49273874
>got doxxed
>Niji told her to stop streaming
>but she still want to stream
>feels like getting choked by staying at niji
>quit
>debut as indie with model from the same mama

>>49273825
>>49273854
>>49273860
Sorry, I saw red and clicked the image

>>49273534
I'm listening to their stream, they spent 10 minutes talking about Chinese and speaking in Chinese.
Her entire chat is female, and seems to be a lot of chinese people

>>49273728
nijiniggers are the most pathetic "human being" on the planet. Being an actual piece of garbage is in their DNA.

Holojps are pretty much top 20 in the entertainment industry.

>>49273953
>her
Sis you should watch Alban instead...

>>49273606
>Assuming rev split of both company are the same
Already pulling number out of his ass

>>49273953
trash attracts another trash so they can feel more at home

>>49273728
Their oshi is anycolor, so they are having a hard time rationalizing about them being a black company that only gives 1% to their hepatic organs

>>49273985
Before or after tax?

>>49273877
It's just a break anon everyone takes breaks occasionally, there's nothing weird about Nijisanji's breaks

>>49273293
You mean the chart where the numbers are guesses looks real to you? I guess it's true that he really did guess and assume those numbers.

Lamy paid 1m in taxes so any numbers that doesn’t add up to it is wrong

>>49273877
found the leaker

>>49274033
Numbers are always before taxes

>>49273606
Im gonna lose my brain cell going through the Nijinigger cope

>>49273640
someone tell me

>>49273877
"break" huh?
yeah, we'll go with that

>>49273898
ahahahahaahahahahahaha

>>49273874
Whenever she got stalked, Niji for some fucking reason forbid her to stream albeit her wish to continue streaming. However, Niji being a black company, was really slow at handling this matter, resulting in a long break. She got fed up and graduated.

>>49272400
Yikes. Not a good look on Cover.

>>49273859
Are you implying IRyS grows on trees?
>hey let's release IRyS again

>>49274105
2 millions... mindshare bros, what do we do?

>>49273877
Suuuuuuure, "break"

>>49272400
>some retard posting this as a catalog bait
I wonder if it's a genuine Nijifags looking for Holo L or a shitstirrer making Nijifags look even worse

>>49272400
One heck of a gymnastic. Are you the same retard that confused talent contribution as merch cut? Go neck yourself.

>>49272400
Oh no Holochad, how do we cope

>>49273227
First off ANYONE can go to college, ANYONE can be a billionaire, ANYONE can win the lottery, ANYONE can be the first modern day trillionaire. Anyone can do anything but if you’re not trying to be smart you’ll realize can doesn’t mean it will happen.
Now my statement wasn’t that he bought a house, that makes him rich it was that he bought a house outright and it didn’t effect his living situation in the slightest. Just like the holos that just wake up and decided i want a different place to live now because they can. Some nijis are rich some are just well off with no money worries and all of en seems to fall under the latter.

>>49274184
At this point nobody knows if nijifags are THAT delusional or if holofags are still that invested.

>>49274184
Eitherway we laugh at Nijinigger

He asked

>>49273877
I see the reason for the sudden NDF now.....

So they basically has their talents locked in already which is why they have a schedule for gen release? So the audition is not a lie? Maybe they are training the girls for 1 year before debut to make them yab free and form a cohesive group.

>>49273955
when will dramatubers pick this up?
>nijisanji fans create a hate bot to disparage gawr gura
would be great clickbait

>>49274048
1.5m

>>49274243
I don't understand this retard. Is he /here/ or not.

>>49274243
Just curious, is Kris your oshi?

Lamy is inspired by the springtime of youth

>>49274105
Nijibeggar? Nijibeggar!

>>49274268
>in 4chan
nobody would give a shit

>>49274279
I support him just so he can rub it in Nijinigger face, so far he is doing a good job

>>49274268
too niche for drama tubers
MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD is only relevant here
who cares about some bozos on chinese anime streaming forum

>>49274299
Just like the Fauna yab?

>>49274048
Lamy need to earn 2.25M USD to pay 1M USD in taxes on Japan

>>49273606
Oh hey, it's that dexerto journalist everyone hates. Thank god this dude is on niji's side he really makes things easier for us.

>>49274199
You can buy a house with a mortgage

did ike say on stream he was going to take a break THEN tweeted?
or is this a sudden "break"

when's holocure going to steam?

>>49274246
there are 3 or 4 branches who had closed or open auditions, so cant say who is the ready one

>>49274308
You also posted all his pro-homobeggar tweets though.

>>49274316
Yes
unlike the 1% cut though

>>49274158
>Pekora host game tournament
>Famitsu report it as big gaming news immediately
Eating good bros

>>49274243
he doesn't get the joke? how?

>>49274299
there's that bvt guy or whatever

>>49273874
>who is this Lulu.

>>49274299
>nijisanji fans spammed calliope mori's tiktok with hate messages
would this one do better?

>>49273762
He’s also well aware all the girls will drop the game when he adds the homos so he’s adding them last. Basically pleases the homobeggars even though they won’t be in the game for like two years.

>>49274354
You can probably get more than 1% if you find some real friends.

>>49273516
>how underwhelming Laplus's 3D debut was
?

>>49273227
Mysta bought a land in pagpag province that shit can't be too expensive

>>49274388
>hate buzzword buff
>nijifans general hate buff
>mori debuff
maybe

>Cover revenue doubled since last year
>DEBUTED 3 HOMOS AND 1 ID since last year
So Tempus and Uproar are massive success?

>>49274350
It will be a mixed EN/ID branch with Utada Zoey in it!

>>49274388
Eh, that's just tiktok kiddies hating on everything vtuber. They were calling this one whore "pedobait".

>>49274378
Haha it's

>>49274347
page up or release? because release is in 1.5 months

>>49274199
>that makes him rich it was that he bought a house outright and it didn’t effect his living situation in the slightest.
Anon, anyone can buy a house with zero downpayment and I mean ANYONE, even the niggerest nigger.
That's the whole reason for the housing crisis in both sides of the pond (burger and bong side), if you are young enough you have a credit line extending to 40 years, 50 years and there is very little requirement: your signature, the signature of a guarantor for your mortgage, that's it.
>and all of en seems to fall under the latter.
Anon, you will likely say "they're lying" but Millie and Enna are constantly poverty baiting and Zaion said it outright, the piss poor financial conditions that were imposed on her

Do I believe that Vox and Mysta can buy a house with their 2022 take home? Absolutely! Vox generated a cool million dollars in Superchat alone for Nijisanji in the period, even if his cut is 2%, and if he moved merch (which he did) he took home some 50k, 80k in 2022.

Now, do I believe that Fulgur can do the same: hell no! Actually, outside the top 5 in revenue for NijiEN, I say most are at very least breaking even with what they would earn if they were urban and college educated professionals in any field

The short summary is
>I believe the top dogs on NIjiEN are making good money
>I believe the other 30 are not, and that the NIji cut for them is small enough to warrant the criticism

>>49273606
lmfao this fuckin nigga. i admire his determination to become a tabloid writer.

>>49274401
True
unlike Anykara tho
1% is all they can get with all of their "friend"

>>49274401
kek all nijiorgans got no friends

>>49274105
>>49274296
retards. theyre not begging theyre shitting on niji lol

>>49274444
lol

>>49274451
one of them literally has "vox's love slave" as their handle

>>49273697
It is like the cost of goods, hiring staff and remuneration for Holo members when participating in company events (Holosummer, new year, expo, Bloom..). You can see that expo costs are 1/3 of the total. And Holo members are contracted as partners

>>49274406
I think he meant 1st year anniversary. https://vrabi.net/video/ebv1wCiXBfI

>>49274489
But at least they are friends lmao. You cannot be her friend.

>>49274184
I made the graph and I have no idea how some people here turned it into a Holo L.
Maybe people doesn't realize that 30% out of all commerce sales means something like 60% on custom merchs since they only sell them once/twice a year and around 10% for generic/event merchs where the members just have to rubber stamp them.

>>49274406
hes retarded lol, he probably means her normal 3D waay after debut

>>49273606
>I’ll just make shit up to make it appear that Hololive is a shittier company than Nijisanji

only holojp members make a lot of money
otherwise tell me why did that brown turd leave

>>49274551
Sure, "friend".
yes, let's go with that

>>49273935
Can't find her,I guess mama is careful not tell anyone in twitter bio

>>49274356
>famitsu
>looks at numbers
uhhhh
https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1656866788779638785#m

>>49274602
couldn't resist the call of hell (gacha)

>>49274551
>niji
>friends
rumao

She should've stay actually because Cover is getting Star Rail perms soon.

>>49274444
Holy shit! Now it make sense!
TEMPUS3 NEXT MONTH! LEEET'S GOOO!

>>49274406
Yeah, I meant her anniversary >>49274541
Her 3D debut broke records, so even despite her being menhera, there were expectations that her first anniversary would still get great numbers

Another day, another top 3 EN for Holo. What went RIGHT?

>axel with Flyone numbers again

homos really lost their tourists huh

>>49274602
Once you kowtow to chinkshit you can never leave that greasy, smelly yuan. It's like coccaine.

>>49274602
She hated streaming and Cover kept bothering her to do offstream work when all she wanted to do was draw for gacha games.

>>49274602
back hort
can't dance/sing for holofes
mihoyo also gave her a fat check
not to mention the ln/manga got anime

> Some retard posted the review on the wrong game's page

>>49274644
fr no cap? that's awesome if true. Kiara need to release her inner whale

>>49274444
Definitely. It just Flayon get culled by 99%
They only show 1% of his CCV

>>49274354
See>>49272400
You never know how much that is unless you're given context. Looks like Nijisanji gives the better deal, but drones will just dismiss the data because it doesn't confirm to their worldview.

>>49274602
>Wishing for Ina 2.0
>get a fucking back broken sheila instead
>throwing away the golden ticket just to be relevant on a tower defense gacha game

>>49271888
nijis graduate all the time

>>49274730

this new zelda game has no charm nor numbers

>>49274472
I'm not the guy you're talking to but I've never understood why anyone would do this shit. When I was 20 I started putting 1k a month in a savings account each pay check on the first of every month. I purchased a house cash when I was 25 and have never paid for housing since. It seems retarded to offer up a portion of your money for 20-50 fucking years for a house. I'm not wealthy in the slightest, I just live in Texas.

>>49274739
Go back
>>49274522

>>49274730
Why would you post this without saying which game he posted this under

>>49274444
You need to write it like this
>2Tempus and Uproar debut
>Cover doubled their revenue

>>49274602
Being the queen of a chink gacha game pays well too i'm sure

>>49274692
damn, new IPs at least read it properly don't get info from that one retard that shared the info in discord

>>49274498
i saw some questioning about how surprising for the game to be on steam, is it because nintendo or nijisanji?

>>49274739
Yes yes
your spreadshits is right and I'm wrong
ignoring the fact that the maker also pull the numbers out of his ass too
so, enjoy his steaming pile of shit along with that fat 1% cut

>>49274694
without a steady infusion from the girls they lost alot of the tourist, also non of them have that bro vibe alot of popular fleshtuber have. Tempus had that before the girl collab started and vesper was suspended.

>>49274739
>Estimate
>Looks like
Lmao

>>49274572
Anon, you have to remember that people are retards who can't read charts. They just see 30% and see a small number

>>49274694
Mega Flygon is a fag with terrible game choice but Axel is just genuinely a shit streamer.

>>49274602
This is meaningless considering that Coco also left and was raking in SC at the time and probably got plenty from other sources too. Some people don't always make decisions to maximize their paycheck.

Falseyed next video will break down Cover FY report.
AAAAAIYEEEE! Nikobros I don't feel so good

>>49274739
Anon that chart clearly shows 30% profit shares to the talent. That's 10x-30x more than AnyColor.
How are you reading this to come to that conclusion?

>>49274602
Depends on how much a gacha illustrator can make. If it’s more, might be understandable. That or she just prefers working as an artist. It’s not as if she quit to become an indie or return back to working a normie job.

>>49273089
Retard A
>>49272400
Retard B


The problem with making guesses based on revenue is that no channel makes money the same. This is all hypothetical
>Gura - Large merch, sponsors, 3rd party
>Pekora - Most lucrative channel in holo
>Lamy - strong channel and strong controlled merch
Let’s say their ranking is 1, 6, and 14 huge differences is what they brought into cover with 1 nearly doubling 14. But in this scenario the ranking for largest paycheck would be Lamy, Pekora, Gura. Lamy’s channel is strong, and her extremely lucrative wine that’s almost completely handled by her gives a large cut. Pekora has the strongest channel with a really nice cut but there are limits to what that can do alone. Gura essentially a mascot making the company tens of millions through 3rd party merch, sponsored merch with just her face with these not giving large cuts, and her regular merch even selling the best would only barely break 7 figures. You can’t extrapolate pay if you don’t know how it is they are bringing in the revenue.

>I implied pekora didn’t sell well and that Gura’s channel was worthless but this is purely hypothetical.
Okayu is mid tier but thanks to her sololive could possibly be in the top 20 for revenue. Sora has one of the weaker channels but she’s involved in sponsors, most merch runs, the fanclub site, and is the actual face of almost every project she’s definitely in the top 20 for revenue.

>>49274825
>disagreeing about something in an argument
>immediately went to 1% to save your skin
Sad sapling deflection.

>>49274824
why nintendo?

>>49274602
>chinese gacha artist
well, there's your answer, also she cannot draw faster like her master so she decided to leave

>>49274904
>Replying to bait
Ngmi

>>49274855
how did they infer "far worse" from 30%

>>49274892
Even though I hate False for being a dramawhore I really enjoy Punished False's crusade against kurosanji

>>49274793
Budget breakdown of a 34-year-old who makes $150,000 living in New York.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1062843723468492802

>>49274910
yes yes it's sapling deflection
now go back to sucking riku's teats for that delicious 1% rich black milk

>>49274924
No, I mean, people just literally won't read the charts. They'll just read the post attached to it.

>>49274717
>Mihoyo
Retard

>>49274909
>Gura - Large merch,
Does she have any merch worth few thousand dollars for each unit?

Most of the revenue for high end streamers came from sponsorship, and also concert for those who sold tickets. You can go back and check who got the most sponsorships she might be at top. I think the top should be miComet.

>>49274956
yeah I know, but did you see all the replies?
somehow 1%>30%

lisa lewds please... i wont call you a nijiniii for a month

>>49272665
You can watch elden ring and still know nothing about the game. It is not the same for zelda

Can someone who isn't a shitstirrer tell me what interesting stuff we can get from Cover's report?

>>49274950
Too bad she can't even be your friend.

>>49274815
Read what? Holo will get the top 3 EN for the 12/05

>>49274986
Your description pointed at Marine being the top

>>49274924
Because the vague merch split numbers people are aware of is a 50:50 split. But you wrote a 30:70 split, which makes it seem like the Holos are getting a smaller cut of the profit despite having to put in more effort for the custom merch

>>49274799
probably wows?

>>49275037
I'm NTA...

>>49274947
>Those donations
What are the odds that he's shoveling a bunch of money into streamers?

somehow I know that NDF ramping up their retardation to deflect from Ike's "break" because now everyone and their mother will assume that niji breaks means stealth suspension

>>49274922
>dont expose me
Ngmi

>>49275019
You can find out the facts here>>49272400

>>49275019
suisei and miko are carrying the merch revenue

>>49274947
>typical monthly spending
>iPhone included
Fucking Americans.

>>49275019
That all the girls are multimillionaires (in HoloJP)

>>49275019
Profit doubled from last year

>>49272882
Black company status is whatever Kson or dramatubers decide. So every corporation except Japanese side of vshojo

>>49275057
botchama...

>>49275019
>profits are up
>new gen next year in march
there you go anon

>>49275026
yeah, too bad you still can't gain more than 1% cut

>>49275035
Does Marine have any paid concert under her belt? What are the most recent sponsors of Marine? Miko literally got hired by the Japanese government.

>>49275037
Yeah this is what a lot of people are missing and it's why I made the post. I mean I didn't intend to look malicious but when the cut was clearly smaller on Holo's end, that's just how it is. Whether or not Cover or Anycolor is a black company is ultimately up to your discretion.

>>49274730
How will he get his gift card now?

>>49274947
Making $150k in NYC is like making $50k in like a midwest/southeastern state. It’s a very expensive place to live.

>>49275091
>new gen next year in march
No, they said they'll debut more Holos in the next FY. So anytime between today and March 2024

>>49273325
>Guessing

>one tardsister trying hard

>>49274913
uh, because they were the start of being anal about perms or copyright?

>>49275019
The new studio has a smoking room around every corner just for Towa.

>>49274909
I made no claims that channels make the same money anon.
Here's my assumptions:
>channel revenues are split evenly between talent/company
>holomems earns 10% of total event revenue
>holomems earns 5% of total license revenues
Which puts out a commerce profit-sharing ratio of 30:70 between holomems and Cover. Which is very high.

>>49275100
Maybe you should get a life by making real friends and stop being parasocial, or else there will be 0% left in your life.

>>49274947
>$70-$80 on electricity
Not in fucking New York, haha.

>>49275123
>I didn't intend to look malicious
This board is full of tribalistic shitstirrers who will use anything to shit on the enemy faction. Your intentions don't matter

>>49275208
yeah, yeah you did get 1% cut only and you're mad
I know

>>49274026
>>49274026
Lmao someone make catalog bait thread

>>49275223
Why would I be mad if I got what I wanted? You are the one who should be mad for her saying such thing unprovoked.

>>49275227
the same nigger that guess % out of xir ass

>>49275174
Why would Nintendo matter in this situation? Of course they're going to release games on their own platform, that's the whole appeal of their consoles