/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Tamaki and Unou do it, but if it's kson so it's BAD

>can't even use the whole gamer word
nice try sister

>>49214256
Henri please, we get it. You're still not over her.

>>49214256
Obviously. Kson doesn't care about anyone or anything but her bank account. Which, hey, can't blame her for that, but still.

>CHING CHONG BING BONG AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That's all I hear. She isn't even the reason VShojo imploded, if you consider VShojoJP a separate enough entity.

>>49214338
>>49214368
You mock me now, but if she had her way everything would be worse off than it is now.

Sorry bro, just accept the truth
Kson won
Coco won
Hololive won
VshojoJP won

>>49214256
She only cares about herself and has always been transparent about it at least. Sometimes very obstinate that her vision and way of seeing things is always correct, but at least I get used to ignoring it. I do not find her a bad person

>>49214533
Yeah but she still supports the garbage company and morons who imploded it and she thinks that's what's best for vtubing.

Kson can do no wrong tho, everyone who says something about her in a negative light, even if what they are saying is completely factual backed up with actual evidence, are called just Chinks and ignored so not waste your time.
She is just a cult leader by this point.

Unironically more disgusting individual than Nyanners at this point. The whole vtubing Messiah act is beyond cringe after all of her actions.

I see, still mad about 1-2%

>>49214657
Her fanbase is full of literal cucks and she also picked up a lot of twitter "Idol cultire BAD!" trannies along the way.
Them accusing someone of being chinese is hilarious to me.

>>49214625
>She only cares about herself and has always been transparent about it at least.
I'll give you that she's started to become more selfish and self oriented but as Coco and a time before joining Vshojo, she did more than was required or expected of her to help out other people.

>>49214256
She revived as a vvillainess, it happens sometimes if you livestream long enough.

>>49214746
Wait really?
I honestly stopped caring about her shortly after she completely dropped any pretense of caring about eops while also simultaneously wanting to take full responsibility for the en branch being created and treated like a god for it.

>>49214788
Thats like a kid that pretends to be nice so his parents reward him and as soon as that happens he is back to his old ways. She needed that strong narrative for her "indie" career because she suffers from delusions of grandeur.

2%

>talking about delusions
>by posting delusions
Never change sisters

>>49214334
Neither of them tries to emulate twitch whores.

>>49214920
You can say that about literally anyone that does a good thing. You can dislike someone while also recognizing that they can take an altruistic action or do good things, or you can refuse to accept reality and cherry pick in order to justify your warped view of things.

>>49214788
Outside of rushia , who exactly did she try to help?

>>49214334
The fact that Tamaki still exists is a mistake in itself.

>one nerdy middle aged asian takes down three corps

ummmmm..based?

>>49215117
>Rushia
Even that example isn't so great since she clearly doesn't enjoy streaming as her Vwhorejo personality vs her actual account.

>>49214622
based
CCP shills will forevermore seethe at her victory.

>>49214652
She supports Mel and Mouse, who are the only people the compay cares about to any real degree. Beyond that all she wants is to use Gunrun's money to keep her mentally ill friends employed.

>>49215189
>takes down three corps
In her mind maybe but the only one she's taking down right now is herself.

coco and Korone did make Eng exposure happen as long wioth Pikamee and such

but that market is dying now and paying the dying streams isnt going to revive it

Twitch is MTV for zoomers now with IRL more popular than the top 3 games

Im waiting for game long plays and silent streams to replace twitch for people above age 27

>>49215117
She didn't help Rushia at all, girl needs a therapist, not an escape from her problems. Kekson will unironically be the reason she does something unwise.

>>49215189
>irrelevant fleshstreamer whore took down hololive
this is what tatsucucks actually believe

Coco = good
Kson = retarded
Know the difference!

>>49214256
Why should I believe a faggot who said he was going to commit suicide and didn't?
you're just a pathological liar henri

How is Kson killing whats left of Whore shoju bad?

Those girls clearly want to return to thot posting anyways

Mel ironically is the only one who is having fun being digital

>>49215117

>>49214256
Nice try Sister. I'm on the side of Kson. Not yacht boy.

>>49215451
Yeah but she's trying to take down the rest of vtubing along with them by still telling everyone to be like vwhorejo. It's like if her retarded company can't succeed then everyone else needs to fail too.

>>49215494
Man Kson is just a damn good woman. She's usually on the right side of things, and genuinely looks out for people. Which makes the nijisisters seethe.

>>49215494
Oh yeah now that you mentioned it I do remember reading about this. Sorry, my memory is a bit fuzzy.
Whatever happened to that indie anyways?

>>49215576
By "be like Vwhorejo" she means you get to keep your model, and you get a higher percentage of your earnings.

The ones taking down vtubing are black companies like anycolor who send your favorite chuuba on stealth suspensions, graduate them for stupid reasons, and steal their money to fund the CEO's massive yacht rather than upgrading their "livers" tech.

The enemy of vtubing is not KSon. It is Nijisanji.

>>49215576
>Yeah but she's trying to take down the rest of vtubing
Only Niji's slave-like conditions.

>>49215451
You're not exactly wrong.
>Teehee I'm a vtuber but let me take a selfie to show you how pretty I am!!!!
I don't care, I wanna fap to your model, not the egirl behind it

>>49215704
She's still streaming and is part of Kson's group of friends now

>>49215704
still streams regularly
she's pretty comfy

>>49214882
Preety much she says a lot of scitzophrenic shit right now, shitting on niji is pretty based though and it's not like holo is doing anything wrong so any seetheing is just jelous tards

>>49215117
The only thing i can think of here "helping" rushia is being with her, she fucked her over in everything else not only did she go into a company filled with snakes she isn't even getting remotely as much audience as she would on YouTube and it's too late for her to recover the holo audiance now her future growth preety much dosent exist anymore.

>>49215494
Bill Gates has a charity fund and helps poor struggling 3rd world countries too but he also advocates for population control and microchipping people. A good person can still do or say bad and dumb shit even moreso when they are deluded into thinking their way is good for everyone..

>>49214882
>Wait really?
no lol
>I honestly stopped caring about her shortly after she completely dropped any pretense of caring about eops
half of her streams are in english
>wanting to take full responsibility for the en branch being created and treated like a god for it
meds

>>49215117
Her Genmates. Mostly Kanata and Watame or so they say. Kanata i can see but i didn't watch Watame back then nor any Ark stream.

ITT
people get mad at scenarios they come up with

>>49216081
Would be actually pretty fucking stupid if she tried to poach those 2 friendship is one thing but Kanata and watame leaving holo is just not going to happen.

>>49215630
she is also always on the talent's side whenever is talent/corporate, so it makes "my corporate tribe is the good one" type bootlickers seethe too

>>49215998
I followed her for like 6 months after her graduation and was even there when she got her first vtuber model. She refused to read English comments. Refused to read English superchats and 90% of her streams were in Japanese. It's cool that she might have changed tunes after half of her fanbase ditched her but honestly don't act like she gave a rats ass about eops until after she joined vsj

>>49215117
Coco talked both Marine and Haachama out of graduating with her. They were both super depressed and were going to quit and she convinced them to stay.

>>49214256
>she is trying to reduce vtubing into the same retarded mess flesh streaming is right now
An industry that respects their talents and allows them to move onto other opportunities without soft-abandoning their existing career?

>>49216081
How did she really help them? Her taking up a contract with vsj was what caused cover to make katana move out, wasn't it?

>>49216175
Think he means when she was Coco in Hololive. I think she was the one that helped Watame become more confident back when they first debut.

>>49216195
she read my gray comments all the time lol
maybe you're just a schizo or your supas were about "le heckin legendary dragon"

>>49216262
>Her taking up a contract with vsj was what caused cover to make katana move out, wasn't it?
It's hardly Kson's fault that a black company literally forces you to move basically overnight because they don't like your actual roommate, is it?

>>49216220
I'm glad they stayed but God I wish we'd hear more about haachama, it worries me that it's been so quiet

>>49215984
What "bad thing" has Kson done?

>>49214256
>she is so bad that I have to pretend to be many people who hate her.
sad

>>49216339
Ehhh that's fair I can give you that one.

>>49216351
Talking shit about Nijisanji on Twitter and causing their livers to get harassed?

>>49216351
she keep mogging my oshi in superchats
>:(

>>49216382
All me btw

>>49216262
Yeah, that was because of confidentiality shit. VshojoJP wants to be a legit agency and you can't have 2 employees of competing companies exactly living together cause it can cause complications espeacially since most company meetings are done virtually nowadays.

>>49216409
Anon. She doesn't get superchats anymore.....

>>49216351
kson is trying to flaming the situation to make people hate Nijisanji.
that is fucking disgusting.
she should just fucking mind her own business.
fucking whore
fuck.

>>49216339
>>49216425

>>49216425
I suppose that you're right but still kinda sucked for katana, moving out in extremely short notice is difficult

>>49216435
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC9ruVYPv7yJmV0Rh0NKA-Lw/videos
anon I...

>>49216525
Oh shit I thought she was limited to streaming on twitch kek my bad. I was shitposting about how it's bits now but I guess I was mistaken

>>49216262
>Her taking up a contract with vsj was what caused cover to make katana move out, wasn't it?
Not really. It's their new policy in general. That's why La+ moved out too. She used to have a non-holo housemate.

How dare this whore talking shit about niji whenever doesn't anything about niji?
fucking retard

>>49214256
I'm surprised that many people here think a woman can do all that.

>>49216402
>>49216470
he said "bad thing" anons not "good thing"

>Henri is a chink asslicker as well

>>49214622
>Hololive won
>VshojoJP won
What a crude example of an oxymoron.

>>49215984
Bill Gates does charity because he is a businessman, he gets reputation out of it. Kson does good things for the fuck of it.

>>49216425
>you can't have 2 employees of competing companies exactly living together
wait until you find out what tech guys in the bay area are doing

>>49215117
I never really liked Coco that much, but I remembered a time when Choco had some sort of open totsumachi celebration. It wasnt a massive celebration since a lot of holos were streaming at that time as well and this was before Choco got her groove back with her asmr stuff so she was kinda just floating and aimless at this point.
Not a lot of holos called in for one reason or another and her guest list was filled with mostly just indies and nijis. Here comes coco with her army of gachikois and I swear it was like Mansa Musa and the Tatsunokos were just throwing money around and choco got a bump up in viewers as well as like 2k dollars in supers just from cocos call, and afterwards much more holos came in to her totsu
I kinda found that cool and sweet. And thats just a small example, she did a lot of small assists here and there during her time in holo. Not a surprise she was very well loved by the end of her time there

>>49216850
too bad they live in japan...

>>49216857
I honestly think she still would be loved but I understand her reasons for leaving. When you're forbidden from collabing with people, your company is promoting antis to moderator status and you're borderline crying from the constant harassment you're receiving while your company isn't doing shit.
I think I'd leave too, nobody deserves that.

>>49216857
She's still doing that stuff with her indie friends

>>49216590
That or Subaru showing La+ IP on stream. Whatever rrat you like more.

>>49215117
Demonetisation arc? How new?

>>49217219
Ehhhhhh I'd be more inclined to believe contract changes. An ip address would only net you the city and 90% of Japan lives in the same area

>>49216582
>Oh shit I thought she was limited to streaming on twitch kek my bad.
Holy crap. Are the people who complain about Kson on /vt/ this far out of the loop? No wonder so many of these threads read like nonsense.

>>49218219
I already told you. I stopped watching her shortly after her new model was released and she kept ignoring the English speaking community

>>49218219
>Are the people who complain about Kson on /vt/ this far out of the loop?
Try reading the wacky shit they came up with about her in /#/ sometime, it's like they're living on a different world.

>>49218258
I'm not the anon you were replying to. I'm just stepping in to express my amazement.

>>49216351
Enabling her friend's schizo tendencies instead of recommending she seeks professional help.
Telling others that leaving a company to become an indie is not the end of the world, while her reality is that she could put aside a truckload of money thanks to her "evil corporate job" and had already a gig in the famously very open to everyone group that is vshojo reserved for her.
We will see if "baiting another friend into joining a sinking ship" should be added into the list in a couple of days.

>>49214622
I have no horse in this race but
>kson won
She's fucking fading into irrelevancy and has to resort to more and more coomer content to stay relevant because those are her only streams that still do well.
>Vshojo won
The company literally imploded, probably over a fucking video game.

>>49218367
>Try reading [...] /#/
No.

>>49218512
I'll actually agree with this. I don't care for kson but /#/s is unironically cancer

>>49218258
you left exactly when she started streaming on twich lol, she streams every day of the week half of them are on twich and they are English streams.

>>49218408
>Enabling her friend's schizo tendencies instead of recommending she seeks professional help.
she literally advised him to seek a psychologist, which he already does.
>Telling others that leaving a company to become an indie is not the end of the world, while her reality is that she could put aside a truckload of money thanks to her "evil corporate job" and had already a gig in the famously very open to everyone group that is vshojo reserved for her.
only a faggot who cares more about his body than his oshi would say this.
why don't you go eat a bullet henri?

kill kson behead kson roundhouse kick kson into the concrete crucify kson launch kson into the sun throw kson into an active volcano karate kick kson into a woodchipper chop kson in half with a katana stir fry kson in a wok report kson to the IRS

>>49219204
>him
You said it, not me.

>>49219761
stop being silly

>>49218847
That's fair. I'm happy watching Rin for now but if I change my mind some day I might give her a chance

>>49216681
Henri is already notorious for wanting to genocide chinks, even BEFORE he was even a VTuber fan. He literally was the one who came up with the Coco/Kson is VTuber Jesus meme, spammed Zhang in every thread, and even blamed them for why both Kson and Pippa dumped his ass.

>>49220115
stop talking about yourself in third person and kill yourself henri

>>49219802
nyo

>>49218847
why apex though

>>49220444
Just had a new season drop

>>49220444
wants to play with nazuna

>>49215117
She helped countless people as an indie. She helped 2views, she helped indies, she helped Yura, she tried to help Pikamee.

>>49219761
>crucify kson
Literally fitting for her as VTuber Jesus.

>>49220444
she wants to get better at apex so she can play it with her friends without being a hindrance

>>49220115
Have you already forgotten that you started saying that Pippa had evangelized you about your hatred of the Chinese and a lot of nonsense?
I wish you had actually put a hole in your head.

>>49218493
>She's fucking fading into irrelevancy
>The company literally imploded
Probably why she's tweeting about the Nijiyab too, she's trying to deflect from her own company's recent shit it's hilarious. Just because Niji livers have a shit cut of their merch doesn't change the fact that the company she's a part of can't even keep money hungry whores from fucking off because their own contracts are crap

>>49221109
Pippa ever evangelised me? Do not make me laugh. Pippa tries to make herself portray herself as based but in the end, for someone who talks about integritry, Pipkin is just nothing but another scumbag.

I like seeing vtubers keep their models and have reasonable earnings.
But I don't like seeing it become fused with flesh streamers and lose its unique culture.

>>49218493
>She's fucking fading into irrelevancy
Anon says, in the 50th thread about Kson in the past 2 days, a couple weeks after she achieved her ultimate dream.

>>49214256
This board on Saturday is gonna be a huge shitshow when the first dayo gets said. Prepare your bunkers.

>>49222825
I'm not going to bother arguing with a retard who claims she isn't slowly bleeding viewers and income. You can see it black on white if you graph out her numbers.

>>49222825
Yeah for her flesh streamer self, her vtuber self is doing dog shit numbers and is just kept there to placate the remaining fans from her old job

>>49214256
>surprised woman has woman take and does woman things
>”hey anon did you know”
I’m sorry you’re retarded

>>49223017
And that's why they are at their best when under a company who keeps them in line and what keeps vtubing good.

>>49214256

>>49220748
Oh did she? She threw some pocket money out of her balcony at best or gave them a shoutout. What happend then? give a man a fish ... Pikamee was smart enough

>>49214614
Are ready for the Pippa kson collab henri? Then the neuro collab next

>>49226372
I hope Pippa makes fun of her company to her face

>>49223596
Lmao at this faggot for mocking trannies while behaving just like them

>>49215630
>>49216194
the issue is that she supports talent rights but not fan rights, she is basically like those Hollywood types that complain about fans of a series not liking their latest shitty movie that ruins said series.

>>49228008
>the issue is that she supports talent rights but not fan rights
You have the right to not watch and not donate, no one can take that from you. You just want to cry endlessly because no one likes schizos. >Oh look at me I'm so oppressed by the system, why can't anyone respect me for being a psychotic liar boo hoo hooo

>>49228434
And soon everyone who disagrees with her will be labeled schizos

she is the cm punk of vtubers
what was her pipebomb

>>49229617
I don't understand your reference

>>49228434
>You have the right to not watch and not donate, no one can take that from you.
I know, infact I do exercise this right, (never donated money, because giving money to people on youtube and twitch is something i do not like doing) it's just that she and other vtubers do not realize and cry endlessly about fans having that right.
Another thing is Kson is doesn't understand how things work, or why unicorns are showing up in the west (it's part of a larger issue going on with modern society, in fact a female twitch streamer got nuked by her simps for having a boyfriend long before vtubers became mainstream) and that it has nothing to actually do with vtuber.
Like I do agree with several of things Kason says, like vtubers being able to keep their models or corpos being ass (like anycolor). But she clearly too simple minded about these things and from my point of view, Vshojo is the wrong company to use to chase these goals (a company that provides no protection for their talents, and has an extremely damaged brand) and the fact said company only ever pick up big vtubers instead of new blood makes it seem like a parasite.

>>49230281
>the fact said company only ever pick up big vtubers instead of new blood
How is that different from hololive and nijisanji? They basically hired people who were established on NND. It's just that we western fans don't know them. (Luckly, because then we'd get the same rrats on here as 5ch which would make this place worse than it already is)

Don't understand the what the point of the other two statements are. The first paragraph is in agreement with kson, the second reinforces that toxic unicorns are a problem.

So many chinks /here/
Make your own board faggots, i want to lurk w/o having to see the same post over and over again
Or just get the rope, that also works

>>49233398
>Not using filters
I get most of you kgumis are ledditors, but come on now, retard. It's been two years.

>>49214368
Henri allies with Vshojo now because of Kson dabbing Kurosanji unironically

>>49215117
> Konoha
>Monaka
> Kourin
> Leto
> Taishi
> Pikamee
Etc

>>49233238
>They basically hired people who were established on NND.
Most of the board wasn't around for the /jp/ era when every new wave/gen we would go collectively figure out which NND personality they had picked up.
I still remember the anon who clocked Kiryu Coco as Kson in the first 5 minutes of her debut stream and started bitching about it.

>>49219761
The Jesus of Vtuber

>>49227355
Henri hates Pippa and love Kson now
Not-Henri update your new pls

>>49215984
>microchipping people
based

>>49234602
Its a matter of principle

>>49233398
Chinks all deserve extermination for getting Coco/Kson kicked out of Hololive, when she was a selfless soul before.

>>49214625
she’s not a bad person, just really dumb. despite being into anime and vtubers, she’s also an ultra normie in literally every other aspect of the Internet hence why she has no self awareness

>>49214625
your second point is what annoys me the most about her. it leads to her doing dumb things like trying to get nazuna to play apex with rpr and inviting her to a collab to teach her how to pick up guys

>>49235410
He switched opinion on kson again?

>>49233238
>How is that different from hololive and nijisanji? They basically hired people who were established on NND
Literally that's the difference. . . Most of Niji and Holo talents weren't all just vtubers and were doing other non-vtubing activities and gives them the opportunity to have a career in vtubing. Vshojo literally just picks up any vtuber with a big enough clout and hopes it goes well.

She'll be fired again the next time she causes drama, since Twitch already wouldn't be possible without Chinese capital.

>>49216425
doesn't froot live with one of the tempus guys

>>49233238
Anon the last hologen was 5 2views

>>49246852

>>49247415
Sorry, I can't tell if you're joking or serious.
Don't you remember the many ads of Chinese mobile games at Twitch con?

>>49218493
>She's fucking fading into irrele-
Sorry I don't talk to sea monkeys who only think numbers are a valid argument.

>>49247726
You're the clueless retard here. Please don't ever talk to me again.

>>49247726
I am not >>49248272. I am >>49247415.
Sorry, I can tell you don't understand how public companies work. Amazon doesn't operate in the PRC. Amazon Web Services does not operate in the PRC. Twitch is blocked in the PRC.
Is it possible that a collective of PRC-based companies choose to band together to make demands of Twitch, or pull their advertisements? Sure! Strictly speaking, it is "possible". It see it being incredibly unlikely.

Also, please honor the request of >>49248272 and never talk to them again. You can talk to me, however.

>>49248454 (me)
Typo correction:
>It see it being incredibly unlikely.
I see it being incredibly unlikely.

>>49247214
I think Tempus boys operate on different rules. Their management seems more similar to Niji compared to the Holo girls which is weird so maybe that's why they don't care as much when a Holo male does it.

>>49244006
Yes, he changed after Kson talked about 1%-3% thing.

>>49214256
https://youtu.be/mLNRblZMLjc

>>49215984
You hurt people when you make them depend on your material help. They don't need a helping hand, they need a good fair enemy that will either kill them or force them to pull themselves out of miserable shit they are in.

>>49215576
>if her retarded company can't succeed then everyone else needs to fail too
You've probably been hearing "crabs in a bucket" but that's exactly what it is. Trying to bring everyone else down to your level.

>>49257140
Furthermore she was actually obviously trying to do this with Hololive as well with her being super-edgy, twerking on stage and such. It's just they put limits on her to not go too far with it - seemingly that had a role in her deciding to leave, they were fine with her being playfully un-seiso but not fine with her deliberately trying to corrupt the others for real. Probably good reason Kanata just plain cut ties with her and of course someone as unscrupulous and manipulative as Rushia came to join her at vshojo.

Pikamee is probably joining but clearly she's naive/insecure and Coco seemingly made Pika her next project to try to tear down someone who was relatively actually-decent - more decent a person than Kson at least.

>>49214334
So where's Unou sexy cosplay?

Hololive is much better off without her and Rushia

>>49257140
>>49257338
>>49257561
what a bunch of losers lol

>>49214334
>Tamaki and Unou do it
ogey

>>49214334
Who?