/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yachts don't purchase themselves after all.

>>49138810

>>49138810
THEY DO IT FOR FREE!

>>49138810
Cover is a white company so of course they are nice to their fans. That is why Cover gets a lot of high quality fan made animations and games, and Nijisanji gets... nothing except some nice Senomiya doujins, god she is made for sex

>>49138810
Thats SlaveSanji corp for you...

>>49139505
>senomiya
Setomiya

>>49138810
If you don't submit Ai art to the Nijisanji contest youre fucking yourself over

>>49138810
>Cover: Talents joked about Cover being black company, abuse Yagoo for memes.
>AnyColor: Livers "joked" about AnyColor being black company, get send on "family vacation."

>They can't use "what about Hololive" cope
SAD

>>49139488
yes

>>49138810
Uh oh, time to manufacture another yab, nijibros. Someone send a spacha to Ina.

>>49138810
But wait there's more.

>>49140128
Yeah but stock higher, niji wins

>>49138810
And nijisisters don't understand why no one wants to make fan games for them...

>>49140128
I don’t watch nijisanji so can I get a qrd? The hololive one is sponsored and run by the company is Selen’s not sponsored?

>>49138810
Niji artists be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcJ6Wxdcj-E

>>49140128
Why does Selen sacrifice so much of her own income for Niji--a company that has no problem deleting everything she's ever done, on a whim...?

Someone needs to sit her down and have a talk.

>>49140251
If it's decent, Nijisanji would just DMCA it and then reproduce it so they could monetize it.

Why should I be mad that my Oshi Riku is gonna get closer to his next yacht?

>>49140330
This image is falsely portraying that the talents earn 25% it is actually 2%

>>49138810
Shamelessly using Selen's good intentions to harvest free art and cut costs? Nijisanji would never!

>>49140128
You really notice that Hololive is run by otakus, they know that every yen spent on getting people drawing them is repaid 100 times over by getting people exposed to Hololive and getting artists to be more inclined to make Hololive fan art for free

>>49140199

>>49140363
This. Mumei pls talk to her.

>>49138810
When a company plans vs. an individual organizes a design contest on his/her own

>>49140330
>>49140478
How about this?

>>49138810
I need someone who actually pays attention to both to explain. Isn’t hololive’s statement just fluff? If they make a bikini but a holo is wearing it wouldn’t they have right to use it because of the way their base rules work? Does this application supersede their policy? Lawyer anon are you still here I would like another explanation

>>49138810

>>49140613
Saved

>>49140128
Did they receive the Weiss Schwarz card yet?
That could be worth more than the first place money prize.

>>49140128
Didn't Ame also run into a situation where she had to pay for her own VR studio or whatever it was? Cover was not willing to help her financially so she paid for it herself. I'm a little foggy on the details but I recall hearing something along these lines.

>>49140675
No, it's that Cover still has the right to the Holo that is wearing the swimsuit, but the design/picture would belong to the artist.

>>49140313
She wanted to do the competition with or without support from management, and so she did.

>>49140613
KEK! a meme thats easy to understand!
Nice one anon!

>>49140313
Yeah, the prize will be from her own pocket. But you'll get replies like;
>nobody asked Selen to do this anyway
and similar stuff, to which I say, is a fair point. But Selen has done so much more as some of her fans have pointed out, but the company never seemed to have backed her up and even had to 'negotiate' for her projects.

im tempted to just use AI and win

>>49138810
And you actually get prizes without making the talents fork over their cash.

>>49140798
both selen and ame are doing these things because they wanted to

>>49140798
>she had to pay for her own VR studio
That was because japanese autism with 3D.
>sorry only 3d in japan
>i'll do it myself
>it's a risk, but okay, you do you

How am I not surprised

>>49140363
>>49140551
Did you ever think maybe she likes Nijisanji and you people are going through the same pattern that all the vultures went through when they thought iron mouse could poach Gura. In the last 3 months I’ve learned 2 things everything dramatubers praise/attack are 100% wrong, and that people that leave a company always end up spiteful. Most if not all of en could quit their jobs and afford new places to live even before luxiem so they are not hurting for money in the slightest

>>49140613
2.434%...

>>49140818
Would they be able to use it like fan art for projects or thumbnails?

>>49140363
It feels like the streamers at Nijisanji do more work in keeping that company functioning behind the scenes than management does.

>>49141212
No, is exactly the same, don't try to justify it.

>>49140613
Hi bvtm https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1656307696851664897

>>49140551
She's stuck with niji anon
Anycolor has 2 year contracts and some non-compete afterwards
For a small fry like Selen, Cover is extremely unlikely to go to court to try to contest that

>>49140613

>>49141212
Not autism apparently because the very few out of studio 3Ds holos have done could not compare to their actual studio.

>>49141026
I could be wrong but wasn’t she negotiating payment? I’m cheap so it just seems to me she’s wasting $5k when she didn’t have to

>>49141337
>Please note that we may use any derivative works you create as stream thumbnails, on social media, etc.
They probably cannot take over your work directly, but that's about it.

>>49141603
>Own studio in her house for her personal use
>Paying 5k to artists so company have all rights to use art
Nijinigger...

>>49141618
Can’t sing, can’t dance, average player she’s not making it through auditions let alone backdoor. I doubt cover would want another menhera like Ame that flip flops between i want to be an idol to stop making me be an idol i just want to stream

>>49141903
Nta but you’re being disingenuous. She wanted to do 3D so she paid for the devices to make a studio. She wanted to do a contest and she had to negotiate to pay winners money

They both did something they didn’t need to do. They both spent money they didn’t need to spend. In selen’s case they tried to stop her from wasting money

>>49141648
Very nice.

>>49141603
It's her own 3D studio mean while the design will belong to 2434 even though she paid for it.

>>49141918
Going indie is an option
There's even the possibility of signing up with mythic since non-competes for a JP corp that lacks a physical presence in NA are worth toilet paper
and if she quit niji, she'd effectively be blacklisted by them anyway

>>49140363
She's Chinese, it's in her blood to be subservient to retarded shit

>>49141246
If they quit Niggersanji will probably do their best to slander and unperson them out of spite. That’s the level the company seems to have stooped to at this point.

>>49140363
I also don't get this. Seems like she has severe Stockhom syndrome.

>>49141648
Accurate

>>49141648
I kek'd anon, good work.

>>49140798
That because of covid, they can't get to japan during that time unlike now. Now that cover send her a mocap she can try experiment.

>>49140128
I dont care about either corpo, but having your art featured on a Weiss Schwartz card seems really cool.

>>49141026
I think the worse part are creator have to relinquish all right to theirs outfit, and no credit will be given even when they don't win

>>49142150
The difference is that Ame still owns the studio while whatever Selen paid for already belongs to the company even before she gets to use it.
They're not the same.

>>49142150
Ame keeps the studio even after she leaves the company.
Ame isn't a retard who did this because she loves Cover so much. She realizes there lasting value in having equipment and a studio and if you buy it now, its much easier to claim it as a tax writeoff.

>>49142150
No, in selen case the company get all those free submission to be use for future outfit or liver for free, while ame studio are still ame studio with a free mocap suit.

>>49138810
gonna buy some anykara stocks, unlimited profit

>>49140675
>holo
if you win holo buy the rights to your design as a prize(cash) if you dont holo dont claim any rights to your design
>niji
whether you win or not niji claim all rights to your design

>>49140675
They can use as thumbnail for stream if they use holo ip, but other than that like merch, outfit, 3d all need to negotiate with the artist.

>>49140543
AIIIIEEEEE
NIJISISTERS WHAT DO I DO IM FINANCIALLY RUINED

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1656314005458411521

I thought vshojo took 100% of merch?

>>49138810
>all your base are belong to us
holy ESL, do holofags really?

>>49143931

>>49143931
only the ones vshoujo produce

>>49140613
oh fucking kek, took me a minute

>>49144572
You're doing fine there buddy? A minute for this?

>>49141648 >>49140613
Corporate wants you to find the difference. jpg

>>49144911
>The nose is also there

>>49144119
Wrong, if it's produced by Vshojo they take the ~50% cut. If the vshojo talents produce it themselves they can keep all of it. (but vshojo won't help them with it)

I'll play devil's advocate for a second and say that niji is using the far more standard practice for fan submission contests (you wouldn't want to have some schizo autist sue you because you created a new model that looked vaguely like the one they submitted six years ago)
that said when you're already doing a death spiral with regard to public relations a more relaxed approach would have been smarter, especially if your most direct competition is already doing it.

Thank you for all your responses rare for people to give reasonable

>>49142236
To my knowledge non-competes are non existent for both sides since both Luna and Nazuna exist that’s fair to say. Going indie is not as lucrative as people realize. Unless she began to manage her own merch, figure out logistics, and then comes pricing. Miori is indie and does decently well while also selling merch and she doesn’t make enough to quit her job but all of en was able to do that. Selen would have to be doing better than Miori in every way and it still might not be making enough.

>>49142471
Which is actually weird when you consider the fact they’ve had other terminations and graduations nowhere close to this bad. I’m pretty sure both sides are in the wrong because I don’t trust corporations and I don’t trust people that I don’t know.

>>49142851
>>49142875
>>49142924
Marine made multiple songs that cost tens of thousands of dollars, same with noel, polka and plenty others. They don’t own those songs they weren’t asked to make them but they chose to because they thought fans would like it which is also why selen did it. You don’t realize it but you just made Ame out to be selfish by trying to say she’s different.
>Disclaimer I don’t watch nijisanji this is n just based off the good things others in this thread have said about her

>>49143085
>>49143174
Ok I understand thank you.

>>49144049
bait... please ....this has to be bait
I refuse to accept this is serious

>>49144049
....how young are you if you don't know the reference?

>>49145121
And where did this 50% come from?

>>49145388

>>49145315
Orisongs make the talent money.
Obviously a new outfit may grow your audience and the views on that one stream is money, but its not nearly the amount an orisong gets you just by virtue of the orisong being on music streaming and you being able to monetize it elsewhere. I'm not saying Ame is selfish, I'm saying she's being smart, and the holomems who make orisongs are also doing it smartly.

Kurosanji greed knows no bounds

>>49145315
>They don’t own those songs
they actually did own the song. But they'd rather sell the song to cover so it can be promoted even further.

>>49145121
Unless vshojo is a money laundering scheme that doesnt make sense, even holo doesn't give that big of a cut for common merch paid by the company

Blackcolor bootlicker sure is built different

>>49145820
Vshojo brags about only taking a cut from the merch and nothing else so 50% makes sense since they are..... you know. A corporation, a business.

>>49140613
Holy shit my sides
Why didn't I think of that

>>49145888
50% is fucking massive, if they take nothing from anything else then how exactly is vshojo generating revenue? They have investors now so its not like they can treat the company as a passion project

>>49145584
>but its not nearly the amount an orisong gets you just by virtue of the orisong being on music streaming and you being able to monetize it elsewhere
You are seriously underestimating the cost of an orisong and overestimating how much music streaming pays

>>49146101
> if they take nothing from anything else then how exactly is vshojo generating revenue
50% from merch sales
I dont think I need to say it again. Cover takes 35% and unless Kson is talking about a 3rd unrelated company she is talking about Vshojo there

>>49145383
Considering it was popular during the early 2000s Internet, it's entirely likely they are full-on adults posting now who were born after.

>>49146101
So you have nothing against Anycolor taking 98%?

>>49146245
Anon I don't think you're understanding my point, it's a huge cut, 50% of the profit isn't enough for a company with no other sources of revenue and that also has investors to please

>>49146661
Anycolor takes from everything including merch so it's not a fair comparison

>>49146107
Treasure Box has made at least $50,000 in youtube revenue alone.
On one platform (just Spotify), it's made upwards of $20,000 as well.
Licensing it out is more money as well.
There's also the potential future income as well, and I'm sure their contracts have clauses for the revenue sharing on orisongs post graduation, or they buy the future future earnings from the songs from the talents.
I don't think Marine has given an exact price on her song, and it probably did cost alot, but High Tide cost Moona 2,000-3,000 dollars and that had an MV.

>>49146245
>Cover takes 35%
Source?
That's the effective cut for SCs and memberships (YT takes 30%, Cover takes 50% of remaining)
The cut for merch is variable depending on how much the holo puts up front or otherwise invests

>>49146730
It depends on what their operating costs are. If they're spending $45 dollars and selling $100 of merch, then 50% of merch sales is enough for them to turn a profit.

>>49146730
That's why they are renegotiating their contracts and lost 3 members because of that.

>>49140363
I'm pretty sure even if she were indie she'd still reinvest all her money back into her streaming. She just loves streaming, even if it's for a shitty company.

>>49147165
this one i guess, but that guy is retarded and illiterate nijinigger x

>>49147505
Pretty sure that anon is an illiterate vshojonig or tatsucuck

>>49138810
>Cannot sustain Niji ID
>Leaves Hana hanging for ages
>NijiEN was cancelled and we know Covid was a lie
>Leave livers with 1-2% off merch sales
>Wont pay artists for a design so they bait them in with a contest that has virtually no pros for applicants.

>>49147735
Well, NijiEN event.

>>49147632
>>49147505
Since you are clearly intelligent and can read let us know which company she means when she says 50% if we already know Cover only takes 35%

>>49147870
>we already know Cover only takes 35%
Again, source???

>>49147926
You can just say you don't understand what the image the other anon posted....

>>49147870
>>49147980
From what they earned 35% is from merch. that's what the image

>>49147980
38.4% + 16.1% + 35.3% + 10% = ???%

>>49140798
Yeah, but she didn't have to negotiate to spend her own money. That's the issue here.

>>49147980
Surely even special ed teaches you reading comprehension?

>>49147870
It's the division of there revenue, they are saying 35% of there revenue comes from merch not that they take 35% cut in it, but in the biggest expenses they have cited talents cut as there biggest cut with what the holomems have said on stream multiple times there cut seems pretty good

>>49143931
>>49144117
>Coco claimed that she makes nowhere near as much as people think
>Kson claimed she doesn’t care about money but joined vshojo for merch support which sounds like making more money to me
>She also claimed there’s no cons at all but 3 members left because money didn’t add up
>She also claimed vtubing is slavery
>This is circumstantial but a twitch streamer said that vshojo does take channel cuts (he has a relationship With connor and has been seen with gunrun)
If vei wants to come out and say that’s not true I’ll believe it. No reason to trust people shilling a company

>>49148569
When did those 3 say they left because of money not adding up?

>>49145460
Why did the other 3 leave if this is the most perfect deal in the world?

It doesn't really matter if Holo has a higher or lower cut than Vshojo on merch, both of them are way higher than Niji otherwise Kson wouldn't have left a comment like that.

>>49148569
Kson said VshojoJP has different contracts from EN.

>>49148682
Nyanners clearly left for Mythic.
Silver clearly left cause of the game that shall not be named tearing the group apart.
Veibae is a cunt.

I am the fund of his yacht.
Superchat is my body and merch is my blood.
I have created over a thousand yabs.
Unknown to the community,
nor known to the company.
Have withstood pain to create many streams.
Yet those hands will only hold 1%.
So as I pray, Unlimited Liver Works.

>>49148682
the same reason kson left hololive
dumbness

>>49148682
Anon, you are aware people can leave companies even if the money is right? Can be countless issues and reasons to leave other than money.

>>49148862
Kek. Now i can use this pic.

>>49148944
Aside from silvervale no one else has any reason to leave aside from money, they didn't even need to leave to join mythic, veibae already joined while she was still in vshojo

>>49141246
>m-maybe she likes her abusive husband
>you can't be worried when she "falls down the stairs" several times a year

>>49144049
exquisite bait

If Zaion is smart, she could hold her own competition in the future and actually hand out generous rewards, thank artists just to dunk on Niji for this.

>>49147077
>let me use the most popular orisong as an example
retard kys

>>49147077
Let’s say that was true she made $50,000+$20,000 usd over 10 months which is $7,000 a month if cover doesn’t take a cut. The price for animation like that runs anywhere from 20k to 500k if you’re being fleeced. She released 2 songs that year so double the cost but only 1.5x the increase in revenue. Now you realize ad revenue changes country to country and in japan I think its $1.21 vs $6 in America and I can’t find an exact number for spotify but Japan is far from being the premier spot for them with very few premium users. She’s definitely operating at a loss and so are the others with expensive animated MVs. Everything else said is not based provable fact so I won’t speak on it

Moona doesn’t matter because she gets paid a first world salary in a third world country. If you convert you’ll see she could buy a house and a car with that money. Which would put Marine’s at about $100k minimum If we’re making comparisons

>>49148667
Vei’s tweet

>>49146605
no...

>>49148720
Then she shouldn’t be speaking as if her contract is the same as everyone.

>>49140128
>Negotiated to give away your own money
jfc, how do people stay with this company for more than a month

>>49149895
Anon, post it then. I am sure nobody here is such a glutton for suffering to search her tweets and get outta there with brain damage.

>>49149755
In what way would her spending thousands on artists then another couple thousand to make it come to life dunk on them?

>>49149990
Where did she do this?

>>49149990
She's trying to shill vshojoJP by saying they have a really good contract (please ignore the fact that they were the top 2 in youtube and that vshojo would clearly have to offer them a really good contract to get them specifically)

>>49150048
That’s the problem I don’t want to search through her Twitter someone sent a link when she decided to leave so it’s definitely there

>>49150016
I believe they wanted no money spent. She negotiated to spend her own money so a slight difference

>>49138810
>The copyright, design rights, and all other intellectual property rights of the submitted work will be transferred to our company.
Holy shit. Is that even enforceable in Berne convention countries, without an actual payment to create an actual contract?

>>49150109
Who says thousands? Why you putting words in peoples mouths? Generous does not equate to spending thousands.
Plenty of rewards you could do.

>>49149990
She's been playing marketing ever since the other girls left, trying to make Vshojo look good. This is basically a continuation of that, and also trying to attract talents from other agencies.

>>49140675
>I need someone who actually pays attention to both to explain.
This sort of thing is exactly why 2434 gets away with their bullshit.

>>49150551
What generous rewards can a low to mid tier indie do that isn’t monetary. And again how would it dunk on nijisanji

>>49145315
>Miori is indie and does decently well while also selling merch
Miori is fucking herself over on merch and having regular menhera breakdowns about it. She "does decently well" off supas/streamlabs because her barons are Rushia-tier and she gets a decent chunk from normies too.

>>49150551

NTA
As an artist, in the vtuber sphere, I equate 'generous' as
1) money
2) quote retweet and comment on my art from a vtuber with a large following

What kind of rewards were you thinking of anon?

>>49145584
>the amount an orisong gets you just by virtue of the orisong being on music streaming and you being able to monetize it elsewhere
evidence or picrel

>>49151468 (me)
otherwise it's a 'fun' art competition. And most of us know what 'fun' art competitions usually mean.

>>49140363
Neverending impostor syndrome, thinks she's never doing enough.

look up how much spotify or apple music pays the artist
ask yourself how a supermarket gets to play marine's song
look up how many views a random orisong on youtube has and check how much youtube revenue that equates to

>>49151662
>Whataboutisms
I'm sure Anycolor's dick feels good so far up your ass.

I don't watch Hololive, but from everything I've read they have way better working conditions, better merch, better cuts of the merch, more support, more involvement of staff, less "accelerate". So my question is why do the HoloEN girls seem so unmotivated to stream? The NijiEN girls have always streamed a lot more, but I don't understand how they keep that up if everything is garbage behind the scenes.

>>49151834
They have too much money
Hungry artist is productive artist

>>49141618
She may not be holo's target audience in terms of talents, but she isn't small fry either, the only ones that are above her at this point are Luxiem motherfuckers, and that's if we count subs, not CCV

>>49151894
Pekora is swimming in money and is still the same Pekora as two years ago.

>>49140613
kek nijiturd in shambles

>>49151834
They're western, or asians living in the western sphere

>>49151982
Pekora loves streaming too much

>>49149842
The 50K was the smaller end of the range as was the 20K. I didn't include Apple music which also pays more than Spotify and Marine's song probably has more views there.
I don't know why you're doubling the cost for no reason.
Again, none of this matter because we don't know the exact cost of the MV, but Marine's orisong made at 100K as a low ball estimate.

>>49149761
I'm using Marine's song as an example because it's probably one of the more likely ones to not make money by how high quality the MV was.
Kronii's MV, let's just assume she spent triple what Moona spent for a lower quality MV because she's not a third worlder, still made money back on views alone.

>>49151361
That’s why I said “while also” to show It’s an afterthought. You might not know this but both hololive and nijisanji are overcharging on merch. Most streamers fuck themselves over on merch not just vtubers because they understand it’s crap but they need the extra support. The few that don’t care surprisingly end up with successful companies or become millionaires. Being an indie is much harder than people think. Most of them aren’t making enough to quit their job and those that do are making good money with not ok expenses. A rule of thumb for whether you should spend money is can you do it 2-3 times. Most of them can’t do that with serious purchases but nijien hasn’t really shown any real issues.

Also Miori’s fans are weird they listen to her lick their ears, give kisses, and while drunk she acts like an actual jealous clingy girlfriend. Yet half them treat it as a joke. (Some of them even tried to shit on parasocials according to one of the generals) This I can’t prove or care to fact check but it’s weird that half her audience doesn’t consider her gfe

>>49141119
My dragon... I love her so much Ame being my Holo oshi, they do so much for they respective companies

Selens got a problem. Its like she got in on the almost the groundfloor of a pyrimid scheme and went all in on it.
Shes too invested to bail

>>49152824
Man nobody exaggerates more than you fag

>>49153128
Alright Kyo, no need to add 2 more women to seethe at.

>>49139488
what?

>>49138810
Hololive's terms still automatically transfer the winning entry over to cover, and prohibit the winner from using it again on their own platforms.

Difference is its just worded nicer and the winners get a prize.

>>49155601
The difference is Niji takes all the entries not just the winners.

>>49155601
>nijisanji contest
your entry doesnt win and they use your shit for a design/model for free, sasuga 1%
>hololive contest
you get paid and transfer the rights, they are also an honorable company that wont use it more than is needed because they are not chinks

That is the difference

>>49138810
Holy fk Niji is rly such a garbage company its reaching comical levels by now

>>49155601
>if you win all rights to design are transfered to Cover and you aren't allowed to sell merch of the design without prior permission or license the design to a 3rd party, if your design doesn't win you are free to profit from it as long as it falls under the derivative works guidelines
vs
>all submitted designs are automatically property and may be used in the future by anykara without compensation or crediting
Ah yes anon, totally the same thing

>>49148862
This will go screenshot for any future quickdraw; many thanks Emiya and have a blessed life

>>49155601
>No artwork, yes money
>No artwork, no money
vs
>No artwork, yes money
>Yes artwork, no money

Do you see why the Cover contest is better for creators yet?

>>49157706
Yes

>>49140493
>they know that every yen spent on getting people drawing them is repaid 100 times over by getting people exposed to Hololive and getting artists to be more inclined to make Hololive fan art for free

Its the touhou model. Literally everyone wins.

>>49140798
Cover doesn't normally make VR studios for holos on a whim, because in Japan normally you'd just go to their 3D studio to do 3D streams because it was founded literally as a VR company so it's something, you'd think, they'd have a bit of pride in going "nono, we can do it ourselves, we don't need you using some 3rd party crap, we're literally built to do this."

However of course that plan works as long as you live in Japan and they seem to have no solid idea of how to operate with overseas employees for offline things. So unsurprisingly Ame had to do it herself.

>>49138810
genius

>>49148862
KEK

>>49140798
>pay for her own VR studio
In the sense that she likes streaming in VR/3D and used her income to improve her setup for it, resulting in a home studio.

>>49140798
VR Studios are not cheap or easy to setup. During covid, there was no way for Cover to get anyone to do that for EN. Ame then decided to make one herself, Cover let her do that, but they can't pay such a tall bill for a personal project.

>>49155832
HoloLive is a company-led project. NijiSanji is a talent-driven project, not company-driven.

Neither HoloLive nor NijiSanji can be simply compared because there is no precedent for a talent-driven design contest. It is normal to order a new costume from the artist who invented the character, including the design, but the cost is lower when ordering a pre-determined design, which is never a good thing for the original artist.

Fucking hell it hasn't even been 3 days since the 2% yab, 1 day since the Fatsuki contest yab and now this.

>>49148862
KEK

>>49138810
>Niji acts like this and wonders why people don't make them games

>>49163464
Sure they can be compared because whether it's company or talent driven there isn't really any good reason for Anycolor to say they're taking ownership of EVERY SUBMISSION.

>>49149761
Did you miss the thread talking about Marine or just retarded?

>>49138810
Cut expenses wherever possible. The yacht fleet must grow.

>>49151834
Got spoonfeed too much combined with omegatroon restrictive retarded management

>>49155601
Your reading comprehension reps retardchama

>>49151662
what does that have to do with ownership, you fucking retard? OP talk about ownership

>>49140128
I bet management will take 800$ and give winner 200$ in merch

>>49163464
>NijiSanji is a talent-driven project, not company-driven
But that makes it worse then because by your own logic then it should be SELEN that owns the rights, not her parent company. Yet Niji will own everything instead. So even by that regard Holo looks better since a company-led project is giving the creators full retention of their works, bar the winner who is fairly compensated while the talent-led project forces all contestants to hand over their works for no compensation for later use TO NIJI despite them doing fuck all to help Selen.

>>49139505
Sister Claire gets more

>>49141026
>'negotiate'
How many times did those cheeks get clapped?

>>49178508
too few times

>>49178508
We are talking about Selen, not Ethyria

>>49138810
Ogey

>>49140128
>Please note that I am paying the prize out of my own pocket
what the fuck
blackest of black companies

>>49144911
Inflation is a measure of how fast prices of goods and services are rising. If inflation is occurring, leading to higher prices for basic necessities such as food, it can have a negative impact on the overall economy.

>>49151834
Because streaming is not their biggest income. Cover still got their money from merchandising and while they will much prefer that they stream constantly, they are also fine with them not streaming as long as they are still cooperative with the corporate effort. The effort spent on EN Connect will probably compensate for all the loss in streaming time, and more. And the merchandising they are doing is also helping their income.

>>49139488
KEK

>Zaion arc is keep on giving
Seig Zaion!! Seig Zaion!!

>>49151834
because western women are ungrateful and entitled.

>>49140613
>>49141648
Well meme'd

>>49181970
anycolor certainly isn't going to pay, that would be taking money out of riku's pocket. how is he going to keep being a young billionaire if he actually pays the people working for him?