/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49126102
SHOTS FIRED

She would definitley know in comparison to Hololive.

>>49126102
What are they going to do? blacklist her?

>>49126102
unironically she knows the rates of Holo and VShojo so her opinion on this case is correct

Fuck coco nobody likes her anyways she's a whore who's desperately clinging to relevance by shit talking a company she knows nothing about.

This is why we should all advocate for total nijinigger genocide.
But it's fun to see shitters throwing shit at other shitters

>>49126102
OMEGA BASED. She'd know after all.

>>49126284
point on where she named the company

>>49126102
Why does she insist on provoking China? Dumb western whore.

The talent freedom to get your entire corp blacklisted because you can't stop listening to dramafags and fanning the flames

Hope Mouse won't miss her collabs

>>49126284
Poor Nijisanji, it's lucky you're here to defend them.

>>49126284
Nijinigger seething upon their black company being called out
You love to see it

The Yacht Brigade won’t like this...

>>49126329
WTF? You blind? She's provoking Nijisa... oh...

>>49126102
AAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SHE'S DISRUPTING THE HARMONY OF THE JADE DRAGONS
BLACKLIST HER HARDER

>>49126329
I know right?

>>49126102
fucking shillson, her company takes 100% of merch sales this bitch is trying to deflect

>>49126402
>her company takes 100% of merch sales
citation needed

THE DRAMA MUST FLOW
THE DRAMA CANNOT STOP
LET THE DRAMA FLOW
LET THE DRAMA FLOW

>>49126227
Oh fuck you're right, that's mean vshojo have higher cut for merch than Nijisanji lol.

zhangs can suck my cock and gargle with my cum

>>49126193
big kusa

>>49126458
of course they do, it's not like they're in bed with the chinks

>>49126402
>>49126420
oh she's definitely getting a sweeter deal than the rest
SUUUUUUUPEEEEEEERRR preferential treatment

>>49126420
Silvervale, just search 'vshojo merch' in the archives. Plenty of people shittalked vshojo bootlickers about that.

>>49126498
if you can't produce it doesn't exist

>>49126483
>t. small corpo vtuber
if you're not gonna site some sources, post your contract

>>49126102
IT FEELS LIKE ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>>49126102
Absolutely everyone is dabbing on niji huh?

>>49126102
Fuck Vshojo but Kson was based for do that.

>>49126483
Cite your source anon

>>49126458
yes, because they can make their own merch aside from corpo merch

Feels like an all-out war.

>>49126458
anything can be better than blackedsanji at this point even Vshitjo

>>49126284
Poor subhumans have to deflect overtime again. Rest it Nijinig, your company will forever be known as the 1% black company

>>49126102

>>49126227
She might know Hololive's rates but have it under NDA though.

>>49126284
SAY IT LOUDER SISTER
FOR THOSE IN THE BACK

>>49126284
Sooooo trueeee Nijisis

>>49126102
Not a fan of Kson but that was based.

>>49126520
you want me to screenshot all of the posts about it?
it's not even hard here's the link to search, warosu.org

>>49126227
OMG

ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
TWO NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>49126420
(the same answer I gave you in the other thread)
no? vshojo makes merchandise and gives it to the talent as a % of what it makes.
talents can make their own merchandise and keep 100% of it.

>>49126619
of course she's not gonna say her rates out loud
but she can still give credible comments on public known info/rumours

>>49126329
>western
Huh?

>>49126102
Fuck you Kson you dont even get a share from VShojo

>>49126619
>might
Retard, of course she knows. Shes just not going to say it.
All this confirms is what we already knew, Hololive and VShojo gives better cuts than the black company.

>>49126619
iirc, the SC split was half and half after Youtube got their 30%

>>49126710
>>49126667

>>49126329
i kekked

>>49126710
NIJISEETHE

>>49126102
>let them go without any threats
kek she doubled down

>>49126102
The hero we need but don't deserve

>>49126683
western

>>49126762
based reddit dragon
she always was my favorite

>>49126713
Might is a figure of speech retard ESL.

>>49126284
i like her now, what about it

Inexplicable how whenever someone criticizes Niji there is a misleading deflection lined up.

Well I guess Vshojo is going to be blacklisted from collabs to Nijisanji now

>>49126102
my knees

>>49126762
oh shit yeah
just look at this guy still seething kek >>49092581
what a toxic co-worker

>>49126781
The irony.

>>49126810
Kson was already blacklisted, they won't blacklist the whole company, specially if Pikamee is really gonna debut over there, Pomu would throw a tantrum.

>>49126810
And nothing of value was lost

>>49126102
Just a leach jumping on a a dramatuber. Didn't expect anything less from her. Where did she speak out when Mysta first brought it up.

>be 0th and 1st gen Holo.
>be hired to promote techology, give your company visibility to attract sponsors and investors.
>get a token salary you can't live off, but Cover baits you by they won't take a cut on the YTmoney and who knows, you might make it big!
>You actually make it big
>Your kouhais must give 50% of their channel's revenue to Cover, after the yt cut.
> All in all, life is pretty good.

>>49126102
Lmao wut
I dont necissarily have any sympathy for corporations when it comes to this kind of shit, but I have to wonder what the real break down is all I hear is talents 2%, okay where does the REST of it go?
2% is increadibly misleading. 2% of what? the gross? the profit? who earns the rest? what do the artists get paid?

when you think about the kind of work artists do for these thots, and you wonder how much they really get paid for it, it brings anime to mind for me. this is the same business model.

>>49126713
holoshit is black as coal

>>49126861
>Pomu
Not like she had any sway over the company/management anyways

>>49126879
>Mysta
who?

>>49126879
You mean the time when he told everyone he was joking and everyone bought it because the rates are so ridiculously terrible that they obviously can't be real?

>>49126879
Anon, not everyone is in the know about everything at all times. Sure, if you paid attention and cared about Nijisanji, you'd know this is how Anykara has operated since forever. People were not paying attention.

>>49126879
Kek a dramavtuber is more popular than mysta.

>>49126102
What the fuck, can you imagine Coco's been either watching False or reading up on /vt/ lately.. who would have guessed she'd become a drama becky. I mean if Nazuna's here maybe Coco fucking finally realized we exist now and Reddit ain't fucking shit.

In any case though it's not like she's wrong because the 1% thing is legit lmao tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U76-3RQAHPg

>>49126906
>holoshit is black as coal
Grade A copium right here.

>>49126102
This pretty much confirms that both holo and VShojo have a better cut for merch

>>49126102
I kneel, Pizza Woman.

>>49126906
Why are nijiniggers like this

>>49126906
>I dont necissarily have any sympathy for corporations when it comes to this kind of shit, but (most corporate shit ever)
Claiming you can only get 2% of the profits "because we have to pay other costs" is the most PR argument possible and maybe even how Niji convinced their talents that they could only get 2% of the profits for their own merch. Its lower than other companies, no matter how you cut it.
Go back to your cube dumb PR drone.

>>49126102

>>49126102

>>49126975
>Coco fucking finally realized we exist now and Reddit ain't fucking shit.
A lot of EN Vtubers are /here/.
I suspect some of them even shitpost here.
Those comments that have no source? Maybe a vtuber.

Here she is, kson saviour of the vtubers!
Why is she getting involved for? She never learns her lessons.

>>49126906
But anon, 2 FUCKING PERCENT? REALLY?

>>49127057
Nijiseethe

>>49127057

>>49127057
She's saving the nijislaves retard

>>49126102
GO KSON GO

>>49127177
She can't even save herself.

>>49126871
for both sides, agreed

https://twitter.com/SayuOkami/status/1656235759026987010

>>49126975
>>49127054
sorry to burst your bubble but niji drama hit the online news in japan

>>49127057
most of holofans still love kson and want her to come home

>>49127210
JESUS CHRIST.

>>49127215
Really?! Link pls

nijisanji just keeps on giving

their management are more entertaining than about 98% of their talents

>>49127223
That's absolute cap of the highest degree.

>>49126284
I'm so suprised there still some people willing to defend Nijisanji after all the shit being exposed.

>>49126102
DEFCON 1 YAB

>>49127210
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>49127057
>>49127177
>>49127191

They are going to remove her cameo from the yakuza game because Riku's dad is friend with Nagoshi.

>>49126102
>only 1.5k likes
what happened? I remember she used to be one of the most popular vtuber

>>49126659
ONE PERCENT NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
TWO spoiler]PERCENT NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>49127057
She is trying to get terminated from vshojo so she can start up her own company and be the ultimate saviour fag.

>>49126906
Here's the most charitable interpretation of Anykara's merch model.
Anykara essentially takes all the money because they did all the work. The design, production, shipping, everything. The talents had no input whatsoever, the talents did no work whatsoever, so they get almost no money. That's also why Nijimerch is usually keychain crap.
If you disregard the value of the merch because of its association to the talents, it's a pretty fair enough model. Management has to make money somehow. The talents get other streams of revenue, just not from merch at all.

>>49127210
ITS OGRE

>>49127210
Holy shitballs, Sayu's got the biggest supporter imaginable

>>49126284
yeah get that social credit score up!

>>49126102
kek the chinese who own the ~30% of anycolor are not going to like this at all

How does it feels to be humiliated by reddit dragon, Nijichinks?

>>49127210
>All out war
Based.
Waiting for final nuke.

>>49126193
they wont be able to play the new yakuza

>>49127257
https://twitter.com/P2y_jp/status/1655801535924936705

>>49126102
lmao nijisissies can't catch a break

FUCKING KEK HAHAHAHA ALL HANDS ON DECK BOYS, LET'S WATCH THE SHITSHOW

>>49127210
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49127210
Holy shitballs, Sayu's got the biggest supporter imaginable. Only thing missing is Not Mori or Not Yugo to stake in but the latter is already at peace with herself and want no part of that shithole anymore

>>49127382
SHE'S REINCARNATING TO VSHOJO. WTF I LOVE THEM NOW.

Kson's still a big deal to small Japanese indies even if her viewers have tanked. Nijisanji's hiring pool shrank again, how is Riku going to keep accelerating like this?

I am looking forward to how nijisis here and over at reddit try to deflect~

>>49127382
>>49126102
>>49127350
TIME TO CHECK MY FAVORITE SPLIT

>>49127382
damn it was a reply kek owari da

>>49127387
>Not Mori
Why would she sound off?

>>49126456
Wait until pippa join in

>>49127382
Cute hagcat

>>49126102
This MF here is the real thing

>>49126102
Is she going to make better rates in her fictional company?

>>49127215
Weren't people saying this had been known of for years and years in Japan however? That this is old news that had come and gone?

Gee I wonder if they were embellishing that a bit or something to try to cope.

how would you guys feel if zaion join vshojo?

>>49127210
Its joever Nijibros…

>>49127408
Why does the niji general look like a bunch of gossiping women? They're even talking about about her weight. Who does that?

>>49127447
I don't think Phase Connect has much of a high ground to stand on. Pretty sure Fish takes all the coffee money. Which the talents seem fine with because Fish did all the work.

Oof

>>49127485
Someone asked her in her talk a few days ago about corpos and she was simply no comment about vshojo. She did think Phase Connect and Idol are cool however, in fact she thinks Idol is like a good example of the best things corpos can do and be.

>>49127485
Zaion is not joining VShojo. They're not going to get blacklisted by one of the big corpos just to prove some kind of a point about talent freedom by hiring a second-rate talent.

>>49127433
Needing one controversial figure for Holo to make a pincer attack but she's mellowed out and will never risk directing the hate to holo

>>49126938
There is no way he has any other sources besides the clips that are already out there unless some salty exID talked with him and they don't even deserve 1%

>1%

>>49127283
"people" like this, yeah

>>49126102

>>49127485
I feel you need to get your head checked. I know vt likes her, but no one else does

>>49127501
Considering the amount of luxiem gays in the thread they are either women or faggots.

>>49127447
I think pippa is trying to hold off on continually torching all prospects of any phase/nijiEN olive branches for now. Or more like Fishman had mcfucking had it with that and told her to stop.

But otherwise yeah you'd bet your ass she'd be talking all about this if her little yabbit mouth was allowed to run free.

>>49127408
of course it's nijinigs that hate kson

>>49127533
damn what's wrong with these people
bootlicker doesn't even begin to describe it

>>49127057
>she knows the rates for Hololive AND vshojo, and therefore knows they're better
>she's friends with Rushia, who, despite getting terminated, was still allowed to share her side of the story, and her company DIDN'T make a "here's a bunch of reasons to harass, hate, and dox her (btw we won't stop you from doing so)" statement
>she's already a blacklisted person non grata because she hurt the feelings of the chinese people, so she doesn't have any reason to hold back against Nijisanji
She's getting involved because she has literally nothing to lose.

Remember when Kson told her viewers that Vshojo is not a company?
That's a lie.

>>49126102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sMpueWSA8
OOOOHHH THOSE CHINA NIGHHHTTSS

>>49127533
"metal illness"

>>49127482
I assume it's just like here where people thought the low cut was just hyperbole or a joke. Nobody legit thought it was actually at 1-2%

>>49127533
>that tweet
chink hands typed those

>>49127532
>30-day vacation

>>49126102
I got carried away on this forum and said a lot of bullshit about you, I've been too hard on you and I'm sorry.

>>49126102
When will this ceaseless fighting end?

>>49127533
Man I'd have never guessed there would be a corpo out there with fans consistently more insufferable and brand-worshipping than Hololive's. But here we are.

Why don't these retards just go indie if they wanna own everything?
Do they really want other people to do the effort for them while they just stream and do the funny haha parasocial shit and then sit on their asses all day?

>>49126102
AGENT C HOLYSHIT

>>49127671
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>>49126227
Holy mother of FACTS and LOGIC.
Danjyarasu indeed.

>>49127597
I love women who have nothing to lose.

>>49126102
Truly the hero we need but don't deserve

>>49127692
..are you really accepting that 1% or you're just a niji-staff deflecting this thread?

>>49127333
Holo members don't have to bother with 90% of the shit you listed and they get the biggest cuts from merch sales
not to mention they also have a salary

FUCK YOU KSON

>>49126102
and doubling down kek
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1656236279082909697

>>49127671
When Nijisanji stops being a black company

>>49127671
I hope never, nijiniggers wholeheartedly deserve it

>>49127597
Truly the hero we need but don't deserve

>>49127333
>I'm being a faggot and not answering the question.
I said where is the money GOING, not where ISNT it going. who gets how much?

>>49127733
>Be retarded chuuba
>Don't read contract
>Complain about getting scammed
>Still won't quit
>Complain on twitter instead for social pity points

I feel like they have to make a response now

>>49127671
Until I want this black company to dissolved.

>>49127692

>>49127783
Kurosanji will just ignore it again

>>49127013
>>49127006
nice strawman you falseflagging nijinigger, why don't you try actually reading and replying to anything I actually wrote.

>>49126979
THEY FUCKING DESTROYED COCO YOU TRAITOR

>>49126764
She's always there in the shadows. Making moves we don't understand. Right until it all falls into place.

Kek

>>49127763
This is an Imageboard catalogcutie

>>49127671
Welcome to fandoms with multiple companies people pick sides for now ya know how capeshit and console fags feel.
Coke > Pepsi.

>>49127778
sure anon
"everything" is in the contract

>>49127798
Nice English

>>49127743
They also have to invest in it to get something out of it. When Niji releases new keychains because their talents didn't bother to think about anything why would they expect anything more than a few scraps.

>>49127831
Heh

>>49126102
KSON I KNEEL

the Fauna yab thread are going for another week because of this

>>49127831
>running defense for niji en
Hoshiyomi explain yourselves

>>49127948
yeah it's their deflection thread

>>49127914
>he think they're allowed to come up with merch idea except for very rare occasions
retardchama, they don't have a say in the fucking matter, it's take your copy pasted shit and gtfo with your 2 percent

i mean nijisanji hates kson anyway so it doesn't change anything

>>49127623
I would have believed him. He sounded absolutely serious in that clip, only backpedaling when he realized he fucked up.

>>49127057
>kson saviour of the vtubers!
That's exactly it.
She doesn't give a shit if some company hates her. She wants to see the talents taken care of, because she's seen the inside, and she knows the reality of the business.

BASEDSONBASEDSONBASEDSON
FUCK THEM NIJIZHANGS UP

>>49127831
Where did this Vshojo take 100% of merch sales thing come from?

>>49127210
SAYU FOR VShojoJP!!!!! ONEGAI!!

>>49128060
probably some form of deflection of vshojo haters
post lies every time then it becomes the truth or something

I think people are so preoccupied with the "holy shit she really went there with the 1% zing" that people aren't really grasping that it's a two-part attack - the rest of her message sounds is about Zaion. Like "if you treat your talents like utter jokes why keep them - but if you do fire them don't do them dirty like you did to her."

>>49127948
>>49127756
>>49127889
>>49127735
Can you smell their fear?

>>49127379
HOLYSHIT!

>>49127948
>fauna yab
>guys separate what the difference between reality and fiction is
>we're not friends
That sort of talk would suck for any of the delusional schizotards that would be easy money; but as someone diagnosed with autism, the amount of people that can't separate a drawing from real life is just holy fuck.

>>49126887
Funny thing is, some of the lower JP and EN still manage to make middle class wages monthly even after cuts. Even on a bad month for Kiara with the 30% then 50/50, she's pulling in 6 grand before taxs.

>>49127482
Only western subhuman drama niggers incl kson are talking bout this shit drama without confirming the details. None of us have know how niji livers earn money yet. The business style is obviously different from holo. I watch niji jp along with holo but most niji jp livers are 3 views, are hardly profitable.

>>49126102
BURN, BABY! BURN!

>>49128129
Holy kek. They don't even have anything on Kson

>>49128129
It's all deleted.

>>49128060
>vshojo says they let you keep 100% of your stream money (that is, ad revenue, donations, memberships)
>people wonder where they get their money then
>it's obviously merch and sponsorships then
>since they're all in on a smaller amount of revenue sources they probably take a bigger cut
>yeah probably 100% i bet
That's the logic

>>49126102
2 PERCENT AIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49128168
They make so much from merch that some just voluntarily turn off super chats like it's not a big deal.

>>49127533
>you are Burning Bridges and cutting off future prospects
Oh no

>>49128129
WTF, I saw those post got banned in real time.

>>49128060
Well the only thing worse than 1% is 0%, so vshojo haters and niji defenders assume vshojo must be worse.
Realistically if VShojo works according to western norms, they probably have a better cut than most Japanese companies, just due to how the norms historically developed in both cultures.

>>49128060
I'm pretty sure it's a misunderstanding of how their merch system works. Vshojo as the group can fund and make merch on behalf of the streamer and I think Vshojo keeps 100% of that merch but the streamer has the option to fund and make their own merch and the streamer keeps 100% of those sales. Not sure iif other corpos allow their talents to make their own line of merch outside the corpo's oversight so in that way vshojo is unique.

>>49126284
Ching ching chong to you too

>>49128129
gift card bonus pay must be going out tonight

>>49128168
If what we suspect about membership numers is true (they all have at least several thousand, even ones we didn't think had a ton like Ina may have upwards of 10k) they don't even need to bother with the superchats and merch. Which would explain why most of them are so fucking lazy, they just need to stream enough to keep the member bux flowing. But I dunno the facts.

>>49126727
it's still half and half, just of what's left after youtube takes "their" part.

>>49128251
>Nijisanji
>prospects
what?

>>49128187
>niji killed his family and committed suicide

>>49127532
He's been super chummy with tempus lately. Seems like he's tired of everyone's shit and is seeking friends in greener pastures.

>>49128176
Here's my rebuttal: ching chong bing bong DEEZ NUTZ

>>49128213
Strange assumption, considering that the management doesn't do anything so it's not like it's incurring expenses.

>>49126102
Literally who

>>49128250
I know, I was just saying that even on a base level in a wirld where Cover completely fucks them on merch sales, most of them are still managing to rake in a decent chunk/livable wage doing streaming.

I LOVE THIS BITCH

>>49126906
Wow it took them this long to speak up eh

This all just shows that Anykara is greedy.
Even Kson, a former holomem call them out.
2% IS NOT INDUSTRY STANDARD. Give the livers a better cut

>>49128305
Exactly

>>49128120
Duh, she literally said that she was blocked from doing stuff with others during taiwan arc (tbf she didn't want to inconvenience others by collabing and attracting spamming bugs, but being completely treated like a leper isn't fine either) or having any of her ideas pushed back no matter what they were about. Some chink worshipping jap upper manager or someone was holding a grudge and was trying to push her out, it was pretty obvious imo considering how much opportunities/gacha collaborations mainland subhumans cost Cover. She can probably relate to Zaion.

>>49128197
>>49128129
>deleted
Now that's some swift action

It's over... The reddit dragon is dead to reddit...

>>49127624
worse, a flipnigger

>>49127979
Suuuure. Who was the guy that didn't even bother to do an EX until he noticed everyone other did. The recent valentine day "copy paste" from LazuLight must have also been forced on them.

>>49126102

>>49128334
Nijiseethe

>>49128153
I think you are on the wrong website, normalfag.

>>49128342
I don't get why these subhumans are defending nijisanji
If they gave better cuts, it would be better for the "livers" right?
Wtf is wrong with them?

>>49128176
>Only western subhuman drama niggers incl kson are talking bout this shit drama
>>49127379

>>49128251
Since when there's prospect with Nijisanji? Are you living in alternate dimensions?

>>49128334
Tawain is a country

>>49127533
>Burning Bridges
oh my which viewers do you think sperged the fuck out upon seeing a word on stream? hmm...

you know, bilibili could have boosted their regular foreign stream viewers and subscribers if they didn't sperged out

>>49128350
nijisisters cant control 4chan, so they moved to reddit? KEK

>>49127671
It'll end when Zaion received her justice

I'm starting to thin Kson is the Balalaika of vtubing

>>49128301
So
>half the SCs after youtube's cut
>their better cuts come from merch
>they get cuts from big events like concerts
>they get sponsorships money
>still after all this they get a fucking salary from the company
The only reason anyone would want to join niji is because they failed their hololive's auditions

>>49128312
sounds about right

>>49128280
they almost certainly get some sort of cut on the vshojo produced stuff, though it is probably not that big since the members don't really seem involve themselves in that
still bigger than 2% lol

200+ replies in this threaad. you nijiniggers are of the most saddest people to ever exist. It seems you guys really dont want your chuubas to successful in their careers.

>>49128385
the company is and has always been their oshi, not the talents
they will bend over ass backwards and find any excuse to justify their organs being treated like shit

>>49127671
When Niji CN and Vwhorejo finally burn themselves down to ash

>>49128280
at least kson said she also makes money from all the collabs (pc cases, figurines, etc) and merch on the VShojo store. So it's not 100% vshojo.

>>49128342
Multiple HoloENs have stated on record merch is a good way to support them. So it must be a quite decent cut.

Also notice that Gura's stupid little dino plushie was the best-selling item Cover had ever put out and this is also the point Gura suddenly started phoning in her whole streaming career without much concern - if she got like 10% of those multi-millions that thing brought in to Cover, she legit is set and doesn't need to care too hard anymore. If it's like 20 or 30% she's pretty much got fuck-you money off it.

>>49128326
Chink bugs and Amerimutt niggers are the same brainless chimps for sure. They always chimp out on social media without confirming anything and try to cancel someone else.

>>49128366

>>49128350
Good. They merely adopted her, but I will always love that bitch.

>>49128350
>she doesn't collab with small indies
>literally stays up to 5 in the morning playing wild hearts with a male 2view without tweeting about it

>>49127671
when eops and seamonkeys leave. so never.

>>49128422
>Balalaika
She could pull this off in a cosplay lmao.

>>49127566
>Pippa continually shits on NijiEN for two years when no one gave a shit about them
>Now when there is maximum ill will towards nijisanji and everyone is shitting on them, Pippa doesnt as an "olive branch" to them
Is she literally just an contrarian?
>

>>49127501
Because THEY ARE WOMEN
Like, 99% of the anons there who post pics of Sonny are teenage girls

>>49128330
anon are you suggesting vshojo is doing it for free?

>>49128350
she hasn't touched reddit since she left holo so ....

>>49128342
No shit?
Cover makes more money from superchats than they do from merch.

>>49128438
yeah, I don't know the numbers, just saying Vshojo isn't a corpo in the same sense as others since the talents keep their models and IP which also means Vshojo can't really stop them from making their own stuff outside of vshojo. No one really knows the contract so it's must speculation on my part.

>>49128280
This whole post is entirely made up and based on absolutely nothing. Nobody knows exactly what kind of cut VShojo is taking or even if it's same for all the talents (other than Kson saying it's not 100%)

>>49128429
It's funny because even the 3view homos are making a lot of money

>>49128502
I'm thinking it's more like fishman gagged her because he didn't want her single-handedly burning all good will every other corpo had with PC.

>>49128346
i still remember when king removed his retweet of coco's graduation...

>>49126102
>Kekson saw her dwindling numbers and decided to make some controversy to remain relevant.
CLAP CLAP NEXT MEME!

>>49126102
Wait I just realized, if all Kson is saying is that she wants Niji Livers to be paid MORE, shouldn't their fans be happy? And on her side? What am I missing here?

>>49126861
Pomu is perpetually throwing tantrums over all the ways management fucks her over. Being a Pomu denied her Pikamee is just one extra juicy entry into her compendium of impotent seething.

>>49128555
Pippa's smart enough to not piss off Niji management but it's been confirmed at least some of them shitpost about this stuff in Discord.

>>49127671
>hey let's end this now that people are starting to realize niji is a black company?
>Zaion? I HATE HER KILL HER AHHH
The nijisis cries out as it strikes you.

>>49128342
>>49128515
Again what is the industry standard!
I refuse to believe an industry that grew up with feeding former AV stars into a virgin penis chipper also was in the habit of adequately compensating any of their work force, but the only people you care about are the thots whos only contribution is "pussy", and in this instance not even the actual pussy is really theirs. someone drew that. most people who do art like that do so under contract, pretty awful ones.

>>49128582
nijicorp arselickers

>>49128582
fans are retarded bootlickers, I think if any niji talents saw this tweet they would quietly support what kson is saying that they deserve a better cut.

>>49128474
Not only that, I think Gura figured out she can learn skills and makes more with less effort doing recordings for voice packs and Holo pre-recorded stuff so spends her time doing that instead of streams.

>>49128574
>but noombahs
brainrot lmao
>>49128582
they are bootlickers

>>49128582
The company is their oshi

>>49126458
You said that as if it was bad thing, zhang faggot.

>>49128574
Nijiseethe

>>49128516
Reddit used to be a happier place until she left... Seriously what happened?

>>49128350
Those are just sisters in disguised, anon

>>49126620
Does anyone has all bad advice korone images?

>>49126649
>citation needed
>just find it yourself lol
Retard

>>49127671
when an apology for this along with an announcement of the deletion of this server comes out

>>49127501
>Why does the fujoshi general look like a bunch of gossiping women?
next you'll ask why kiwifarms looks like a bunch of gossiping women

>>49128582
Nijinigs hate their livers

>>49128478
Keep crying nijinig. Eat that pagpag.

>>49128656
Different subreddit, anon

>>49128582
I think it's sort of related to sunk cost fallacy and not wanting to admit they support something "wrong".
In a way kson destroys the fantasy of a happy and great nijisanji and people respond to this emotionally

>>49128582
yeah i think it's bootlicker syndrome

the message was good but they hate the messenger so they automatically turn on full hate mode

>>49128582
Nijiniggers unironically cheer when their ceo makes more money than their talents, what do you expect

hey nijisisters, your talents deserve better! take that!

nijiniggers love Anycolor more than their own talents

>>49128624
Hololive is industry standard

>>49128464
Yet 3 of your talents just walked out on you vwhorejo troon

>>49128582
This guy is their oshi

>>49126102
Ok, I miss this fucking bitch.

>>49128624
>Again what is the industry standard!
You aren't ever going to get the exact answer for that retard. NDAs exist for a reason.
But at the very least, we know its not fucking 1-3% kek.

>>49128582
Nijinig is fan of the company, a cult members actually.
if they're really a fan of Niji Livers, they would had show up in livestream more. Not a max 5k shitter like they're currently now

>>49128708
Ah.

>>49128752
Why does he look like a serial killer while Yagoo looks like your average jap?

>>49128749
>Hololive is industry standard
newfag.

>>49128060
The minds of coping nijidrones. They're very imaginative, as you can tell by checking the catalog during any nijiyab (basically any time).

Hey anons I noticed.

Like this post >>49128750 who seem to defend nijisanji or deflect always have this shitty image reaction. And shitty resolution too.

Are you paid enough anon?

>>49128791
almost all of them either retired, abandoned their channels, or doing porn content on fanbox

>>49128791
Most of the chuubas in that picture have retired

>>49126102
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49128832
No he is also right, Vshowhore also gets the rope, specially Fr**t.

>>49128582
Signing the contract to become a niji fan limits you to using 1-3% of your brain, purease undastandu.

>>49128789
Because he doesn't smile with his eyes, whereas Tanigo does.

Technically with the overwhelming size of Nijisanji when compared to any other corpo. Their rates are industry standard.

>>49128791
>>49128843
Yagoo is a saviorfag didn't followed industry standard.

>>49128582
Nijifags are unironic bootlickers. Their oshi is Anycolor. They don't give a shit about the vtubers so long as they can use Anycolor corpo profit to le epic own holofags. It's all they care about.

>>49128900
Then other corpos are offering above standard rates kek.

>>49128791
Do you even know what is implied by industry standard? You know that what came first is irrelevant right? Are you really this stupid? So many questions.

>>49128907
See this guy knows, Yagoo change the standard.

>>49128791
guess which one persevered and became the industry standard

>>49128750
So you like that your milord Vox Akuma earn less money while Kson earn millions from her contract? Besides Silversale, Nyanners and Veibae was shit for the company anyways.

ACCELERATE
C
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L
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Kson bitch think she still relevant

>NOOOOOOOOOOOO SHUT UP EVERYONE KNEW ALREADY ABOUT THIS IT DOESN'T MATTER
I don't understand why sisters care more about the fucking brand than about their oshis.

I know the topic isn't new and that pomu and maria have covered the topic of how to 'best' support nijisanjiEN's vtubers. however, they spoke in relative terms. do we have any actual hard proof of what the cut from merch is?

kson has only worked for hololive and vshojo. then, sayu's emote response doesn't confirm anything, but we can reasonably assume the cut for merch is also very low.

the video such as in >>49127532, mysta later claims he was kidding and that'd he'd "never disclose how much [they] get paid."

>>49128975
shes more relevant than you bug

"nijifags" living in your negro heads rent free lmao. a glimpse in the catalog shows niji doesn't even exist on this board, its all strawmen and inferiority complex. seek help.

>>49128975
Ching chong thinks he knows English.

>>49128975
Soooo trueeee nijisis

>/vt/ 2023
>the majority of catalog thread replies are in broken English

- joins VShojo.
Ironic.

>>49127533
>The west won't save you
lmao

>>49128060
Because the vshojo shills were bragging how they only take from merch sales so its a better deal for vtubers to join
source: that 1 black guy that was in the vshojo orgies leaking shit

>>49128992
Mysta had a nervous breakdown during the stream and was forced to take a break soon after.

>>49129024
>Diversity
Good.

now all the recent nijihub boom have an additional flair that the girls are all doing this because the company don't pay them enough

>>49129007
Time to clock your hours in, right niji intern?

don't worry imma fix this thread

>>49126102
I kneel.
t. nijinigger

>>49128582
Their own livers are probably facepalming at their own retarded bootlicker fanbase.

>>49129056
possibly for mentioning the topic at all, but not necessarily because he disclosed the actual rate.

>>49129024
a lot of the bootlicker replies sounds so unnatural

>>49126102
>attention seeking fleshy capitalizing on shitty "drama" she don't even know about to elevate herself and her career
Why should we care?

>>49129056
Yeah I bet he went to see his family for the holidays

>>49129007
>inferiority complex
Stop using words you dont know the meaning of little buddy.

Vwhorejo think they are better than nijisanji what a joke

>>49128670
Missing a few.

Goddamn I LOVE THIS BITCH

>>49128992
Mystakek seethe
https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4345
> Wait does Niji merch have international shipping costs? I didn't know. I've never ordered anything.
> "Yes" - chat. *laughs* GET FUCKED IDIOTS! You guys are getting fucked over, while I'm sitting here in YOUR money!
> I'm just kidding bro I get like one percent from merch sales. I ain't getting shit. Fuck man I'm getting scammed myself. Maaan. Whatever.
> I wish I was joking. Anyway.
https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4401
> *realizes he fucked up and starts diverting* what else is there to talk about bro? I dunno how to talk *jokes around*!
> "Are you allowed to say that?" - chat
> *silence*
> *serious voice* Uhhh, yo, I'm just kidding, I actually earn 99% of- you know what I'm just kidding, none of the values I said are true values okay?
> I've never *stutters* none of the values I said are true, all of them are fake values that I just made up.
> I would never even SAY how much I earn percentage-wise for merch *devolves into gibberish*
https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4463
> "'Legally I must say I was lying about percentage earnings' moment" - chat
> Exactly! I WAS lying! You guys will never know the actual amount I earn.
> "Welcome back man, hope you had a nice break." - Ren. Hey, THANKS Ren.
> Yea Ren, tell 'em. We earn.. uh.. you know what don't tell 'em anything actually, what am I talking about.
> We don't earn ANYTHING! In fact, streamers don't earn money.
> In fact, every time you donate to me, we don't earn- actually, that's also bad to say, I DO earn money, the money does go to me that you send to me.
> Fuck. I need to shut up. Let's have a new topic, please, thank you. Yes?
> Someone say something, I need a switch right now, RIGHT NOW.
> Why has my chat froze? LET ME GET ANOTHER TOPIC! WHY HAS MY CHAT FROZE !? PLEASE !
Pomu about support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znNv8LriV60&t=5072s

>>49128709
so kson is not their friend?

>kson antis outing themselves as smelly nijoids

>>49129111
>Lower yourself to bootlick Nijisanji just to get (you)
This is just sad.

>>49129099
she is making people aware that anykara don't pay enough for their talents, and being ex-holo and vshojo, it probably says that anykara pays less than those two companies

lmao all these bootlickers
stop posting the same shit you're just paraphrasing it

Nijifags just keep losing. Even vshojo is shitting on the sisters.

>>49129111
Nijiseethe

>>49128289
Those guys working for gift cards get paid more than nijiEN livers

>>49129099
Learn English.

>>49126102
WOOP WOOP
PULL UP PULL UP
RETARD RETARD

I can't believe nijisanji made me like vshojo.

>>49128791
>Only 1 person in the photo reaches 5 view
You are proving his point anon

POMU I'LL FOLLOW YOU WHEREVER YOU GO DON'T WORRY I LOVE YOU PLEASE BE HAPPY

>>49129133
terrible reading comprehension. thanks for posting the information I already know, though.

Even just a 10% cut would be a five times increase

Niji keeps taking Ls

>>49129133
How does shit like this even happen?

>>49129135
>so kson is not their friend?
Has kson ever interacted in a single way with anyone from NijiEN? Outside of Sayu the last few weeks? Why would she be their friend

Imagine having fans like these

:3

>>49129220
more like
>Kson has been banned from any interaction with Nijisanji as a whole due to the company have business with China.

>>49129244
That website unironically makes us look sane. It's all schizo women and fags sucking off niji 24/7.

>>49129244
Holy mother of bootlickers, Batman!

>>49129135
Are you replying to the wrong post or did you not understand the post and the content?
I was more talking about the reason why nijifans are mad about kson saying nijilivers should be paid better.

>>49128769
>we know its not 1-3%
yeah you retard, thats what I am getting at, its probably LESS, 0%. I'm asserting it.

>>49129244
>do literally nothing towards the merch
The talents are the ones giving value to the fucking merch, no one would buy it otherwise

>>49129244
But can't they get at least 4% jesus christ these bootlickers

>>49127395
I could believe it. She'd be a good hire too.

>>49129137
Always were.

>>49128574
I miss it bros.

>>49129244
niji livers are a red herring to distract you from niji kidneys (Tazumi harvests one from every chuuba who signs on)

>>49128582
The nijifags oshi is the company and Riku they dont give a shit about the vtubers

>>49129220
didnt realize i was deflecting by quoting the green thing

>>49129330
4% are you insane?!?! That's a 400% increase, how will Riku finance his 5th yacht

>>49129244
JESAS

I wonder if nijisanji will feel forced to comment about this now that Kson is talking about it

>>49129346
Yeah, looking back, complaining about another tier list was a much happier topic than flinging shit over who insulted the unicorns this time, and how "It's Over" for the fifteenth time this month...

>>49129244
With fans like that who needs antis

>>49128582
It's this >>49128709
Nijisanji is the eternal "second place" in both markets, and because they have so many different generic livers, the fans just watch whoever is on for any particular day and therefore do not gain much of an attachment towards them.
This becomes obvious when there's a heavy overlap, when one of the streams (the more "popular" one) will get all the viewers while the rest remain as 3views.
And so Nijisanji fans are eternally chasing validation for their choice of watching the "second place". They're insecure because they're mostly teens and don't have a proper self identity yet.
All of this combines into Nijisanji the company being their oshi, and individual livers just being treated as cogs in the Nijisanji machine.

>>49129143
>she is making people aware
Yeah, I'm sure she is. She's definitely not jumping on a bandwagon so she can virtue signal and make herself the "good guy" against the evil corpo company.

>>49129412
Let's say she is a clout chasing whore and so on. Is her message wrong? Do the talents not deserve a better cut for merch sales?

>>49129244
Suprised they didn't suggest that the liver fronts the development costs of the merch.

>>49127763
huh interesting, thought Vshojo got all of the merch profits. Wonder what the cut is then.

>>49129389
the one guy kris removed his tweet talking about the 2%, probably forced by nijifans or nijisanji themselves

>>49129244
>Your livers contract is pathetic, they need better cuts
>NO! If anything, they should earn less
Jesas.
Aren't most of nijisisters also kpopfags? I've seen kpopfags seething at their group's agency for less than this, what makes them different when talking about kurosanji?

>>49129390
>we used to complain about reddit meme review
and now niji EN drama every goddamn week

Kson love or hate her like the Vtuber version of a celebrity on Twitter with all the takes that get reactions lol.

>>49129449
No no no you have to understand, it's KSON and we all agreed she is BAD remember? So even if she makes a valid point we can ignore it because she's BAD.

>>49128582
They will NEVER admit that their talents are being treated like shit. Hell, most of them got mad with Sayu when she confirmed that the stealth suspensions are a real thing.

>>49126102
Alright guys it's time for your favorite game
COUNT THE ZHANGS
>>49126284
>>49126329
>>49126710

>>49129244
>they should be happy with the peanuts they get despite being the reason it even sells

>>49129488
Even 1 is too many, let alone the 2 billion.

>>49129135
Kson isn't allowed to (publicly) interact with Nijisanji livers in general because Anycolor is too deep inside of the Chinese market to ever risk pissing them off. At least, that's what Kson said in a membership community post.

>>49127856
RootBeer>both

>>49129511
>2 billion is too many
Well lucky you, the population is 1.4 billion and falling.

>>49129480
Exactly. Even I don't watch or care much for kson, but if she says that I deserve better by my employer. Why would I go ohh you're only dramabaiting you don't have the right to bring this into light go away clout whore.

>>49128992
> mysta later claims he was kidding and that'd he'd "never disclose how much [they] get paid."
He says that after someone in chat asks "are you allowed to say that" and proceeds to have a total mental breakdown grasping for some other topic to switch to.
Upto you if you believe "all of this is a lie, I don't get paid at all, in fact streamers don't get paid".
See >>49129133 for full context.

>>49129449
If the members aren't complaining, then why bother? We know how much they through superchats and streamlabs, as well as from voice packs. And we're also not talking about music deals and convention appearances. We can assume that they're so well off, that merch cut is pretty much irrelevant to them.

>>49128346
she wasn't completely blocked from everyone, talents did collab with her, knowing what would happen. Fubuki, Miko, Kanata. Flare, and others I can't remember. She was blocked from the new years stream though, that shit was infuriating at the time, but she wasn't in a total box.

EN management also blocked her. fuck them.

>>49129602
>If the members aren't complaining
Likely aren't able to anywhere you can see because of NDA.

>>49129390
talking about meme review you nijinig

>>49129244
Something is not right with these women.

>>49129522
Which Root beer?

God why are some characters in SF6 so fucking ugly

>>49129099
>>49129111
Good evening sirs, how's the weather in Sultan Kudarat?

>>49129614
>She was blocked from the new years stream though, that shit was infuriating at the time
I am still angry on her behalf for that.

>>49128983
Sweatshop slaves think working shitty conditions and being brutally conditioned into being "happy" about it is what they're used to.
"Nijilove" they said, when the bell rang