/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49099961
same brother my cock is angry

>>49099961
Would be funny if she did it.
Shameless

Do you think she will apologize next stream?
Do you think she is aware of the backlash?
The mods keep deleting comments so she might not even be aware

>>49100358
If she realizes the mistake of responding to the supa, she definitely isn't going to make that mistake again by responding or acknowledging the backlash

>>49100358
She does browse /vt/ like Mumei

>>49099961
Yes, please.

>>49099961
yes, and i better be able to hear some light sobbing in between
>>49100358
best thing for anyone to do in this situation is just not acknowledge it. but will fauna resist being petty? only time will tell

I wonder if it's her fetish to do asmr and then tell sapcucks she hates them. Like maybe she's getting off to it.

>>49100358
>Anon actually believes that opinions/posts here carry weight

>>49099961
i want distant, bored, "i'm not your friend" breakup gfe

>>49100809
4chan hasn't been a sekrit club since 2008. 13yos who protested with anonymongs against da scientologlols are like 28 now.

>>49100358
>Do you think she is aware of the backlash?
Yes of course she is. Even ignoring the fact that there are comments on her youtube VOD saying they felt hurt, and some of them possibly deleted by her or her mods, Cover always has people relaying info from here.
Even if the girls aren't here, there are still Cover spies that report on everything happening.

Now will she apologize? Probably not. For one it's an asmr and she doesn't do explanations there. But second the cover staff always tell the girls to ignore everything. Whether this be EN or JP. Personally I would like if she at least addressed how some people feel, but I fully expect her to ignore everything and try to memory hole her comments. It is what it is.

>>49099961
nijibot deflection thread

>>49100809
Anon a fucking Tempus member was literally caught browsing /mans/. Not twitter or reddit. /mans/

>>49100957
lol which one?

>>49100894
fact of the matter is, she probably just doesn't care enough to address the issue, cover mandated or otherwise.

i genuinely don't understand the backlash and i thought i was pretty fucking parasocial. yes she was blunt on the very start of the ramble, and she went on longer than needed, but nothing was out of place or groundbreaking. she's touched on this topic many times in talks about how she's an entertainer etc.

>>49100995
axel, but he's one of /mans/ favorites so at worst he saw autistic hornyposts

>>49100957
yeah, /mans/, a hugbox general filled with twittertrannies.

>>49100894
Kronii addressed it and then decided to tell her fans to eat shit immediately after. If Fauna is gonna do that, I'd rather she not talk about it at all.

>>49100256
I hope she doesn't. The cope i'm huffing right now is that she has enough personal integrity to be honest with us. If she takes that away, that'd break me

>>49100995
the dog

>>49100868
You can’t get that IRL?

>>49100957
G-great example sis... rumao

>>49100894
Eh, I think at this point calling any attention to it would make things worse. Ignore it, and ban that babski fucker from all HoloEN channels before one of the other girls falls for his shit.

>>49099961
What the fuck happened?

Kronii already ruined ASMR apology, they can never be trusted

I've been gaming for 8 hours straight.
What did I miss?

>>49100916
kek they even fucking botting schizo posts now?

>>49101104
That's a pretty weak cope. You expect the person who lead you on for 2 years and profited off you, only to turn and tell you not to be her friend, to have personal integrity?

>>49100807

>>49101170
"I'm not your friend and we can't be friends. Improve yourself". It was a double whammy.

Why would she apologize when she did nothing wrong?

>>49099961
hopefully she doubles down and announces a homo collab

>>49101177
>ASMR apology
>karaoke before or after breaks to pacify fans
>followed by homo collabs
If Fauna really follows Kronii's pattern she'll do her first Tempus collab after the break

>>49101243
Lmao did she literally say “improve yourself”

>>49101213
yes

>>49100916
Should make the post on the right bigger as it refers to making a Fauna bot.

>>49101051
and she still does shit like this supposedly without thinking it even remotely resembles gfe

>>49101315
no, she didn't say any of that. ask him for a timestamp.

>>49101261
This. She already said everything

>>49101261
Anti ENers will grab anything to falseflag and make drama.

>>49101376
"I cannot be your friend and we shouldn't be friends"
She 100% said that.

>>49101315
It was actually Improve yourself v2 (10 minute version)

>>49101296
I definitely see homo collabs in the near future here. Fauna seems like the type to see the kind of people upset about her comments and decide the best thing to do is double down instead of backtrack. Kronii probably encouraged this behavior as well

>>49101296
>karaoke before or after break
Wow... what a precise time frame. It's like Nostradamus... two more weeks I guess...

>>49101296
I fully expect it, Kronii is probably eagerly setting it up, making sure she does it

>>49101296
>>49101511
this time for sure sis. your boys will stop being 3views when that happens too.

>>49101439
>drama
if you were actually a fan then you'd feel the same way. Threadreader.

>>49101490
>Messes up the "100%" correct quote
You literally couldn't even quote your own shitpost right. See what key words you changed.

>>49101051
The backlash is artificial to steer shitposting away from [insert daily nijiyab here]. It just so happens that Fauna is a (barely) usable excuse for this purpose currently.

>>49101608
improve yourself

>>49101362
She's not stupid, she knows it's gfe

>>49101515
Oh I'm sorry anon
>Karaoke the last day before her break or on her first day back
There are you happy with that timeframe?

>>49101075
Wait you guys actually think that screenshot is real...?

uuu... i want abusive ice queen ASMR...

>>49101631
https://www.youtube.com/live/fgCHZbylmus?feature=share&t=12131

>>49101632
Kys sapchud for trying to drag Senchou into this

lol, can I get a clip or name of the stream + timecode? I gain psychic energy from the anguish of paypigs.

>>49101713
would unironically have been a better way to handle it than what she did

>>49101051
Same. I'm incredibly parasocial and avoid any chuuba if it feels like they start shitting on me and even I understood where she was coming from. It's like they've never watched a Fauna stream before. Especially because her pseud rants only come out when she's being EXTRA parasocial and opening up and wanting to be deep.

>>49101739
Truth hurts you doesn't it nijichink

>>49101721
>>49101631
Shit bro you got blown the fuck out

>>49101713
erect.

>>49101691
It's real, you can find it in /MANS/ when it happened

>>49101074
>hugbox general filled with twittertrannies
/mans/ used to be a good general but thanks to tempus2 it got overran with nijisisters. now its a fujo general filled with twittards

>>49101819
Only thing worse than a nijinigger is a sapchud that attacks holos to play defense for green slut

This thread smells like durian

Fauna is wrong. She's actually parasocial and she doesn't even know it, this is just her lacking self awareness

>>49100358
I can see her explaining what she said better and maybe saying she apologizes if anyone felt offended by it, but there's no real point to doing it because the antis will still just misinterpret whatever she says anyway.

>>49101721
Wait I don't get it why is everyone shitposting about this. Isn't this just semantics? She's acknowledging that fans and idols have a form of a relationship and that it's mutual and brings joy both ways, just syntactically defining it as different from friendship since both sides are putting on their best face. Why would you post this? I was actually getting riled up before you posted the source.

>>49101760
Literally two posts above yours dumbass.

>>49102048
never believe 4chan posts anon

>>49101214
Based

>>49101760
>paypigs
It was literally a troll SC from a known troll who sends inflammatory shit to ENs all the time

>>49101713
This would unironically be the perfect apology and would make me so hard.

>>49101511
>fauna seems like -every western woman ever-

>>49102041
More like this process has gone wrong several times now because Ami/Mori/Kronii all decided to double down even if they had at any point signaled they might closely consider the feedback and refine or take back what they said. Like, you're allowed to take shit back, I dunno why they think they have to commit harder on a mistake if they sense a little cut forming and just impale themselves on it.

>>49102048
Sapcucks are already pathetic by vtuber fanbase standards and fauna told them that even the smallest attachment to her is disgusting and they should feel bad.

>>49102031
She literally acknowledged the two-qay parasocial relationship and said it was a good thing that makes a lot of people happy in shit that was posted, unless there's another clip somewhere where she said something different.

>>49102048
>are saplings friends or simps
>Well they're not friends, they're something else
you''re a simp paypig, stop coping, only the most powerful autism and denial could lead to any other interpretation

>>49101632
No one gives a fuck about niggersanji, it sucks we all know it sucks I don’t need to hear current thing to know how much it sucks

>>49100916
>Gura antis are so schizo that they made a bot that detects when opinions about her are too positive
what in the fuck

>>49102291
Have you stopped beating your wife?

>>49102217
>fauna told them that even the smallest attachment to her is disgusting and they should feel bad.
I think fauna is a retard and a fuckup but she didn't say that. Where did you get the disgusting and should feel bad parts from?

>>49102054
posts were only 45 seconds apart
unfuck your brain

>>49102417
It's interesting how there haven't been many of the usual Gura catalog threads spammed in the past 24 hours.

The best thing Fauna can do is not say anything further and let this blow over. If she backpedals or doubles down or goes full Kronii it'll blow up in her face.

But also naked dogeza and apology paizuri.

>>49102291
this. the issue is it was a binary answer, if she said "no you're not friends and never can be" the other half of the question is "are saplings simps" and she never said that they aren't - just that they aren't friends.

then she spends like 5 minutes explaining why. she wound up answering a ton more than the question asked, but the fact she got the answer off on the wrong foot right away and never actually-corrected it (more like tripped herself up in a way she can't really correct) is the issue. in effect her answer was "yes you're all simps but don't feel bad, here let me lecture you how to make friends" as if that isn't massively condescending a reply.

the only way to survive that question would be to modify and qualify what "friend" means - which actually is viable because that's a kind of loose term online. Fubuki calls her viewers friends all the time literally as her thing, etc. She touched on the fact online friends are a thing too but still didn't really land on the right answer for it, because she kept regarding it as strictly the idea of 1-1 friendship and not like friendly groups (like how groups, countries can be "friends" etc and so on). So what she should have done is qualify "saplings = friends as a collective group" rather than think of it like "saplings = thousands of 1-1 legit friendships or nothing" which is what she did and actually looks fucking retarded now that I put that in words.

>>49102511
there hasn't been gura threads posted for at least a couple weeks. And interestingly enough, the last few weeks have had 2-3 fauna anti threads consistently being up. And this also comes right after the zaion twitlonger.

these threads are probably just bots replying to each other. this site is going to be worthless to use simply because nijiniggers can't stand people enjoying hololive

>>49102661
She can just extend/modify her answer without doing a full take-backsies or "you know what fuck all of you I meant every word and more" type thing. Just dial broaden the meaning of "friend" because that's actually pretty easy to do.

>>49102443
It was implied in the sense that she told them they can never be friends (because they are losers).

>>49102162
selamat pagi

What do I say?

>>49099961
I recognize this clipper channel

My wheelbarrow is strong white piggs

>>49102866
The indog women exist in this weird spot where pre-marriage sex is illegal but risu also acts like her parents making her find a husband would be the worst thing ever and they all want to act like sluts, but can't actually be sluts.

>>49102876
Fauna would never cuss, how dare you

>>49102827
She also encouraged them to make real friends, which is really based since technically that will hurt her financially but at least saplings will find happiness.

>>49101362
i respond to bait, either you didn't listen to it and just read the title, or you have serious problems believing that any of it is gfe. get some friends.

>be me
>sapling unicorn
>Fauna is my waifu
>I cum every day listening to her ASMR while watching my 3746362836 NSFW pics folder of her
>I imagine her cuddling me as a child, because why not? Nothing weird about it.
>She streams today. What a chance!
>superchats time. I check to see mine. I sent 100$ to say I love her and I want her to step on my balls while insulting me and spitting in my mouth. I hope she'll like it.
>another sapling asks if she's our friend
>She's answers no
>I literally explode
>HOW DOES THAT BITCH DARE NOT BEING MY FRIEND? SHE'S MY WAIFU.
>IMAGINE DOING ASMR AND NOT BEING FRIEND WITH YOUR VIEWERS
>TOO BAD BITCH, IT'S IN THE CONTRACT. THERE, IT'S WRITTEN : "IF YOU DO ASMR THEN YOU BELONG TO ME, IT'S GFE AND WE'RE MARRIED. AND SO YOU'RE MY FRIEND, MY SISTER, MY CAT, MY MOTHER AND CAN'T BREAK MY SCHIZO DELUSIONS."
>I HATE HER SO MUCH
>cancel all of my gifts
>Starting tomorrow, I will never fap listening to her ASMR again. That whore doesn't deserve my cum.

>>49101632
do you really believe this? you might need help unironically
As someone that actually mocks nijisisters on the regular, I have never obsessively posted over a piece of drama. Why would I, I don't watch them?
I care about Fauna, so I will post about it perhaps hundreds of times.

>>49099961
ONE PERCENT

>>49100957
>Anon actually believes that Tempus here carry weight

i actually refuse to believe people are smart enough to be able to get into this "idol-fan" act. it's total cope.
>i'm not really lonely, i'm not really unhealthily ruining my life by not doing something useful, i'm not getting too attached and obsessed, it's just an act! i'm very self-aware!

>>49102700
Yeah I think you pretty much nailed where she went wrong and what was wrong with. The troll sc context makes it worse than if it was said in a vacuum

>>49099961
Earlicking is so 2019
Get on with the times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wq4hTla1TQ

>>49101106
all men are dogs

>>49103272
I think it's lost on her that real friends aren't usually going to look or sound like an anime girl like Fauna. Gee that's almost what makes vtubers so appealing or something. Even if they have real friends, they'd still also want to think of Fauna as a psuedo-friend in addition to the real friends. It's not like they can't have both in their minds but Fauna seems keen to try to deny them that.

People don't like being told what to do, plain and simple. It's what drives most politics and religious shit. They have to be extremely strongly convinced as to why to listen to someone to accept being told to do anything and a little 5 minute lecture you'd give to 1st graders about talking to other kids in the class to see who else likes sports or whatever isn't the kind of leadership or social required to do that. It looks more like a stranger who just told you she's nothing special and probably not that interesting to know IRL now lecturing you how to do shit. That, is what happened. Being told what kind of taste you're supposed to have, what kind of things you're allowed to like or not, trying to dictate how to enjoy a pastime like watching vtubers is like a "why do you CARE how I like something, none of this fucking matters" type reaction and you're seeing it now.

>>49102511
It's almost like gura just streamed semi recently, chumbies know this is a new normal and won't have a melty yet

>>49103386
>>49100916

Sisters we won. I can see a pixel on the dislike bar
Hololive lost

>>49099961
uuuu mommy you hurt me, gimmie paizuri and kiss it better!

>>49103536
so this is the power of /vt/...

but there's nothing to apologize about

>>49103386

>>45364057

>>49103513
So, yes?
Why not make a thread then? I will keep talking about Fauna.

>>49103536
Did the extension completely stop estimating downvotes and only works off people who have it installed now?

>>49103692
YT is fucking with the UI (again)
it looks like they are going after ad-blockers, too

>>49103694
Of course you will nijibro, i have no doubt you will.

>>49102427
hmm should I say "I do not now and have never beaten by wife" OR should I give a rambling 10 minute lecture about how me and my wife do have arguments and she makes me mad sometimes but never actually say I don't beat my wife?

Did you guys expect anything better from the weirdo that brought her bf into her RM asmrs?

the people calling out "unicorns" are so cringe. This is all you and your cuckold allies.

>>49103861
I even catch up on vods if its Korone, Pekora or Miko.

>>49101213
are you telling me i should be friends with the people at my favorite coal-grilled burger spot which i have been buying great burgers from

The schizos were right, and you didn't listen.

>>49100440
>She browses /vt/
I loose respect for her by the second.

>>49100358
It's best to ignore it completely, like Mumei did, and eventually everyone will forget, like everyone did with Mumei.

Maaaaann, I know she just said that cause she cares about her viewers' mental health. But I'm sorry Fauna, I don't wanna take my meds.

>>49103873
Okay, so do you have plans to stop beating your wife in the future?

>>49101713
damn that's hot

can i get a not a retard version of a tl;dr of what the fuck is going on?

>>49104552
https://www.youtube.com/live/fgCHZbylmus?feature=share&t=12131

>>49104552
nijiniggers created a bot to increase hololive hate/decrease the amount of nijinigger hate on the board

>>49104193
Have you been talking with these people for several hours a week about everything under the sun? If you did that for like two years I'd say you're sort of at least casual friends with them.

There's different tiers/levels of friendship, it's a pretty nuanced thing to think about actually which is precisely why Fauna should not have stepped into this shit.

>>49104552
>troll sends SC
>Fauna goes on a Fauna tangent about definitions
>semantics ensue
>>49102048
>trolls shit up board

>>49104596
So she drops a mild truth bomb and everyone's butt hurt?

>>49104374
>she browses /vt/
i dont even watch her streams but I like her very much
Fauna if you're reading this you're very cute and i wanna rub your feet! of course it's most probably never gonna happen but have a nice day anyway~

the one thing people undervalue so much nowadays is the ability to make someone's day by sending positive messages to them.

>>49104405
That whole nothingburger synthetized.
>>49104374
How dare she browse my degenerate board? She's pure! She can't do that!

>>49104651
no i just buy burgers from them. im pretty sure they know me. im a regular, but we dont talk. the burgers are just great for a pickmeup and i go for them whenever i feel like rewarding myself or having a bad time period.

>>49104651
So if you can understand that this is a retarded bout of semantics about the definition of "friend" then why are you even stepping into this shitposting?

>>49104729
>Fauna if you're reading this you're very cute and i wanna rub your feet!
So you're trying to make her feel better about her parasocial remarks by being parasocial? How do you even ?

>>49104820
Am I supposed to delete all the fanart too?

>>49104820
Timestamp on the parasocial part? The video was already posted so just tell me where.

>>49104722
The part that's bad is the SC asked a flat out two-way street question, are saplings friends or simps. She could have just said "neither" to be technically correct and move on, because that's functionally how she feels.

However the fact she exhaustively explained why they're not friends and never can be and then just completely left out the simps part of the question unanswered, kind of implies "well she not only thinks they're simps but she puts like 10 miles of distance between her and the nearest sapling too" which doesn't look too good.

As has been said a few times today, maybe the best-cast answer would have been for her to define friend as in "friendly group" so she could say she likes Saplings as a group, just that obviously 1-1 individual-friend level is kind of impossible for streamers generally and that applies here. Instead she just comes across as cold shoulder and very condescending.

>>49104884
>>49104596

>>49104909
>However the fact she exhaustively explained why they're not friends and never can be and then just completely left out the simps part of the question unanswered, kind of implies "well she not only thinks they're simps but she puts like 10 miles of distance between her and the nearest sapling too" which doesn't look too good.
No you just have aspergers, everything she's said was right and put very mildly.

>>49104722
Yes.
>>49104698
>>trolls shit up board
Trolls? The fuckin' unicorns mafia is more than serious. Those retards really escape their pathetic life by obsessing about their oshi. Just read their messages, they just confess it shamelessly. I read earlier that "not everybody can make friends, for some people with autism it's hard."

Guys i was upset about what fauna said but im feeling better now so its okay now we can stop fighting

>>49104987
I would bet on my mothers life and soul that the people interpreting it so black and white like you, are in fact autistic.

>>49104925
No i watched like 10 minutes of that. Im trying to find the part where she says parasocial relationships are bad and you shouldn't have them.

>>49104909
You've spent almost an entire day watching a bunch of manchildren pretend to be retarded and shit all over the walls and ceiling because of her stating the plain, incontrovertible truth, and you want her to address the "simps" part of the blatant troll SC too?

saplings...
holocucks...
come home...

>>49104820
what's so parasocial about that? I just sent a message into the void of the internet which wasn't even directly sent to her via chat or superchat or dms, on the off chance that she actually reads it because it's implied that she browses this board.

>>49104987
it was actually a very soft-spoken way to say it and somehow people still took it badly

>>49105088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8b2Aqunt5s

Why do so many insist that it's all artificial outrage?
Wanna know why? Because comments like are being deleted because it's not the same yesman post everything else is.

>>49105069
You act as if it's some fucking impossible act that will break the universe if she just said "you're not just simps, you guys mean more to me than that." but instead it was just all negative distance and not much reassurance. Her attempt at explaining her understanding of wanting to be friends with streamers was relative only to fleshtuber shit, the closest analog to that would be how people feel about brotubers. She definitely whiffed it.

>>49105044
It's a black and white response, what is so hard to understand about "I am an entertaining, you are my fans, we are not friends, go talk to your real friends because I'm really not that interesting of a person and I don't know you"

>>49104729
improve

>>49105187
See, autistic.

>>49105061
It's literally what she's saying when she tells you you are not her friend. Are you fucking retarded? I guess if you're talking about rubbing her feet the answer is quite clear.

>>49105187
Autism post.

Join the team

>>49104987
>No you just have aspergers, everything she's said was right and put very mildly.
Totally. How can those retards even shit entire blocks like if it was complex or something. They think they're essayists commentating a political event or what? She's not your friend, period. She's a streamer. Find friends IRL and stop being a weirdo.
>>49104909

>>49105239
THANK YOU for posting the Lia version. Don't let phasecucks try to memoryhole that event

>>49105244
let me ask you something, do you watch Fauna? do you actually care? or are you just looking to pose as being "right" about something?

>>49105235
>>49105208
>>49105180
>>49105114
>>49105061
>>49105044
And I thought vei and silver cucks in vsj threads were retarded. They're like retard lite compared to this level of autism.

>>49105191
surely we're all trying. we do what we can. it doesnt hurt to get prodded gently in a nice direction.

>>49105299
I've watched fauna for years longer than you even knew she existed, and you're still fucking retarded.

>>49105350
Go back to those threads then

>>49105180
No, anon. You've just devoted way too much brainpower into what amounts to being told the time of day, and are coming up with every possible avenue to cope because you may or may not realize the sunk cost in continuing to wage war against reality.
See what I did there? I took what you said, and extrapolated a bunch of extra meaning that wasn't there originally and filled it with buzzwords for good measure. That's what browsing this board has felt like for the last 20 hours or so.

>>49105350
i can quote literally every reply in this thread and call them autists, but that itself would trump any such called-out autism. get some self-awareness.

>>49101051
Simp or friends? You cant be friends with me.

>>49105476
Someone needs to look up the definitions of words

SEA fag detected

>>49105462
If you think I'm mad I'm not, I'm just disappointed she'd step in shit answering this SC and think she could have navigated it differently.

There is still time for her to try to patch things up, but so far every single time this has happened (mori/ame/kronii) they only fuck it up harder if they get back to it.

>>49104552
>A troll who's banned in Kronii's chat asked if she was their friend in a akaisupa.
>She answered no, because it's true.
>Every unicorns of /vt/ implode.
>probably nijiniggers jump at the chance to hide the fact Anycolor is a black company which sent Zaion under the bus over liking some tweets and using an emulator.

>>49105638
you're right about that. go ahead. self-awareness. starts with s, bro.

Do holofags think that they're friends with every tv show character they related with?

rules for thee but not for me
https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2F7gp6af.mp3

>>49105712
Go back to your ESL classes

>>49104396
based forgorful owl

>>49105775
you still somehow haven't looked it up...
i don't know where you yourself need to go back to, but hopefully they can actually look stuff up over there. just copy paste "self-awareness" into the address bar, dear. it is that simple.

>>49104552
>>49105641
Congrats you still missed important parts.
>Someone banned from Kronii's chat asked if saplings were friends OR SIMPS
>Fauna goes on a 10 minute ramble about how she and saplings CANNOT be friends
>too long didn't listen, no Fauna and saplings aren't friends
>Didn't address the simp part btw
>Simplings it is.
>/vt/ explodes and many copers try for hours on end to shift blame when proper saplings have shown their discontent
>picrel and >>49105168 happens
It wouldn't surprise me at all if both of these comments vanished because criticism is le bad and only hugbox responses are allowed.

>>49105885
>Ok anon I'll go to my ESL lessons at 3PM today
fyp

>>49105713
Do you think you're smart bringing up stupid nonsense analogies? The TV doesn't talk back. Fauna spent hundreds of hours talking back to the saplings. I wouldn't say they're traditional friends but they're not a completely-disconnected dynamic either like watching a movie or something.

>>49105990
She isn't fucking talking to you bro, she's a character. Get over it.

>>49105990
Did you miss the part where Fauna acknowledged that that relationship was real and a good thing but then gave her definition of friend to explain why it doesn't fit that definition? If you understand that, then you would have to be incredibly autistic to shitpost over semantics.

>>49105713
not the target audience but some of the nuances are that streams are live and interaction with the char/streamer is a possibility. with tv chars, you don't really get that especially the second point. and if you watch a streamer repeatedly accumulating all these parasocial interactions, it's not farfetched for someone to, at the least, feel like they're friends with a streamer.

>>49105180
>but instead it was just all negative distance
>Stating the obvious = negative distance
>and not much reassurance.
>Needs reassurance from a streamer with an anime avatar to be mentally stable.
How desperate can unicorns be?

>>49105766
kek

>>49106115
Best version I've seen so far.

>>49106133
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wow..

>>49106115
Can now reduce lia to fit the rest and throw in Fauna.
Also lol all the deleted posts, holay, sapling jannies?

>>49105904
Pretty much, I don't understand the Nijicope when their problem is a black company so a smoke screen would be making shit up about cover management to deflect not some stupid comments Fauna made that pissed off some off her fans

>>49105987
and now you're just flat out changing other people's replies into having a conversation with yourself. that's adorable. i guess you "win" this time! have a pat on the back... but from who!
>pats your back
ah there you go! don't fyp this one though, i already patted your back, sweetie. don't wanna embarrass myself even further by catching one of your really witty replies that completely change what i said! good one, sport!

>>49106269
I think that was all one person

>bunch of posts deleted all at the same time
>deleted posts are arguing on the extremes of both sides
Yeah this drama feels organic.

he was literally replying to himself kek

>>49106369
>deleted posts are arguing on the extremes of both sides
No it isn't, he clearly had a side

yikes. mass-deleting posts now? what happened? so this is the power of the true schizo...

>gets named after a Roman goddess
>Doesn't honor the goddess
>Gets cursed as saplings turn on her
A Greek tragedy, really.

>>49106429
Sorry, I should elaborate
>deleted posts shitting on Fauna on one side, and on the other side doing the most blatant strawman UMM SHE'S NOT YOUR FRIEND YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS L + KILL URSELF INCEL type posting so that he can reply to it with sick logical pwnage

>>49106487
gee almost like the meido could tell someone was being a faggot and pulled his pants down for you all to see.

>>49106487
don't provoke him he'll fyp, you definitely dont want that to happen nuh-uh

>>49106055
Not really. All that's really being said is that it's natural to feel a sense of companionship and friendship after spending hundreds of hours bantering or falling asleep to ASMRs or whatever. And to denounce that as not a friendship is frankly cold and bitter outlook on the relationship

Isn't funny how green women can't help but self destruct? We need a name for this phenomenon.

>>49102700
>>49103488
>>49104909
good posts, hope Fauna doesnt go full Kronii and actually tries to understand

>>49099961
I thought she is your mommy? why do you want your mom to luck your ears.

>>49105299
they think it's a culture war and will move on when vtubing is dead

>>49099961
>ASMR for non-frens

>>49100894
>speaks out against parasocial behaviors
>next stream is ASMR
ah the hypocrisy

>>49106596
Radiation leaks

>>49106596
it's a bit subtle but Fauna has a mystique to her where she seems like she has it all together but is actually held together very loosely at the seams and is on the brink of breaking and losing it completely (if she hasnt already) and there is a "i just wanna fix her" vibe from that

its nice and subtle.

>>49106596
Green Witch of the West

>>49106593
1. It's not natural
2. She's not speaking to you she's speaking to a crowd
3. It's a cult of personality, it's one sided, always has been, get over it.

>>49106593
Okay... So since you acknowledged you didn't miss that part, and also didn't miss the part where she gave her definitions, and earlier acknowledged that there are many levels to friendships, then all this boils down to is "she defined relationship X as Y and relationship A as B but acknowledged both are real and good, but I think that she should define relationship A as Y as well". This is autistic.

>>49106593
around 6 inches minimum
>>49106877
around 3 inches maximum

>>49106593
it is a live performance in front of a crowd. think of musicians at a concert or comedian doing stand-up or wrestlers doing a match or promo.

>>49106998
But anon its different I swear! She's talking to meeee

>>49106998
Except even those are more personal, since the people in the crowd are at least physically there and in person and have faces to them instead of being an amorphous chat blob.

>Women in this thread learning that every entertainment form is parasocial

>>49106998
Wouldn't a phone-in radio show be more fitting?

>>49107199
Even if it was, they're still not your friend, they're a performer

>>49106998
If you watch vtubers you already don't go to any of those.

>>49107199
Nah, even that is still too personal because you get significant one-on-one time for at least the few minutes you are on a call.

>>49106593
Yeah that giant clusterfuck paragraph from that one sapling said as much basically. Fauna in particular is a very cozy comfy type chuuba like Watame where you can feel relaxed as she asks you how your day was. Twitter toothpasteflag subhumans ITT might interject here say "she wasn't talking to YOU dumbass she's not your fraaaaaand" - no faggots, she literally asks chat about random shit, all the time, and surveys the answers for stuff to talk about. She is specfically the exact kind of chuuba who loves to smalltalk and laugh along with the chat, the exact type to bring about a feeling not super-different than actually hanging with someone talking.

That doesn't mean I think she's literally a 1-1 friend at all, but she's a closer-feeling chuuba than others where they feel more like they are just blogging in your general direction instead of actually-talking to the chat. With Fauna it's like an actual conversation you can follow and backtrack topics on, something you can recall clearly and linearly like when you actually talk to someone. So I can see why saplings are so distressed at her statement, because she's the exact type to really kindle that close feeling of sort-of knowing her.

I just wanted to watch her build the tree, bros. The part with the music was actual kino. It's just not fair and personally I blame western rot for taking this away from me.

>>49099961
What are you mad at?

Why do people like ear licking so much?

>>49107305
I just don't get why she made that rant, the only logical explanation is legitimately that she was manipulated by Kronii

>>49107305
Sort of like when a stand up comedian asks the crowd stuff and picks on people for it. They're still not your bro.

>>49107254
... What do you think I was trying to say retard?

>>49107305
Did you miss the post that was replying to? Because it really didn't address it. Maybe this version is better worded? >>49106941

>>49107378
>can't even read
>continues with bad analogy
tell me you watch holostar clips without telling me you watch holostar clips

>>49107378
not at all. fauna asks just because she wants to talk about stuff and chat is just as much there to entertain her as she is for it. try watching her some time instead of speaking for her.

>>49107392
I don't see a reason to give the parasocials here more things to try and poke holes in

>>49107392
You're replying to a troll trying to "NOT UR FRIEND"post like the guy who got mass deleted earlier and outed.

>>49107453
>parasocial = bad
go back

>>49107447
>fauna asks just because she wants to talk about stuff
Or because she's needs content and is trying to fill time, which is the simplest answer

>>49107199
probably, but ear-licking or cotton crumpling is a performance

>>49107115
correct

now, the real questions really arise.

what if for example, somehow Fauna did manage to become my friend? she's a streamer! i'm imagining she barely has time to do anything at all with friends.
if she was already my friend before she became a streamer we would be guaranteed to drift apart completely because of this.

the thing is, let's get real. I want Fauna to be my gf, because she reminds me of a few people who did become my gf.
does that mean I'm gonna be a superchatting simp? no! i'm not even a fan and i don't watch her streams. because we should know through common sense that a fan becoming a friend or s.o. of a streamer is a very unnatural and inorganic way of going about things and would frankly lead to more drama and problems than it is worth.

>>49106532
or they were lazy and nuked the chain instead of offending posts. Baffling behavior

>>49107505
People like this aren't actually defending Fauna, they're trying to convince people to stop watching her

>>49107472
I'm the troll for saying not your friend when it's literally fauna saying not your friend, ok buddy baka

>>49107305
All she said was that she shouldn't become friends, in real life, with her chat because friendship is about showing all of your sides to each other, but Fauna the idol only wants to show her best side to her audience.
>shut up she said she isn't your friend and that's it everything else is irrelevant shut the fuck up
I see.

Stop replying to the guy who got mass-deleted earlier. He's just doing the same routine so he can reply to it again "pwning" the normies.

>>49100807
>Like maybe she's getting off to it.
That sounds hot af, but lets be real...

>>49107363
Nah all women have their moment at some point. Probably a period

>>49107572
>posts the same talking points as the troll
>I'm the troll
Yes.
also
>baka
Raid confirmed.

>>49107591
There's nothing normal about thinking a fictional character is your friend

>>49107686
She's had plenty of periods, it must have been Kronii trying to drag her down.

>>49107305
She just shouldn't talk about it, yeah it's not honest but people don't watch her for honesty, everyone knows she isn't a close friend. She is essentially a virtual geisha.

>>49100807
she seems like a complete switch. which IS hot af. the mystique adds to it. does she get off to it? maybe yes, maybe no. you dont know!

>>49107711
you're oversimplifying it. talking to a flesh and blood person wearing an anime mask is still talking to a flesh and blood person.

>>49107769
>Talking to a performer performing

>>49107585
>shut up she said she isn't your friend and that's it everything else is irrelevant shut the fuck up
I think it's hilarious that he literally said that right above your post in that normalfag falseflag and thinks he's slick.

>>49099961
>But mommy thats not going in my my ear thats myUUUUUUU

>>49107823
I guess we live in a time where direct quotes are false flags

>>49107711
If you don't develop feelings of friendship with a streamer after watching and interacting with them for years then you're a sociopath.

>>49105904
>10 minute
The clip is literally 2min
>about how she and saplings CANNOT be friends
Of course they can't be friend, because you spend time with your friends in the first place, and you don't with your oshi. If you can't deal with such an obvious statement, then parasocial relationships fucked your schizo brain.
>asked if saplings were friends OR SIMPS
Which proves the trollish nature of the troll banned in Kronii's chat
>>Didn't address the simp part btw
Give me only one reason for her to do so? Are you retarded?
>when proper saplings have shown their discontent
>When schizo saplings unicorns threw a tantrum because they can't deal with truth.
ftfy. I'm a sapling and despise those retards, am I legit? I guess not, since I disagree with your bullshit.
>criticism is le bad
Oh I'm the first to criticize chubas when they fuck up. But people seething over their oshi collabing with males or stating the obvious (they're not your friend) can kill themselves. That would just make this board less toxic and stupid. We could finally enjoy their content in peace.

Please unicorns of /vt/, kill yourselves. None will regret you. Neither there or IRL. You're not needed. Everybody already mocks your social inability. Nobody respects you, you have nothing to lose nor prove. Thanks.
Or at least leave the board. You're just a joke, a cliche of the desperate neet otaku. You just bring dishonor to this community.

>>49107921
Or you know, a normal human being that isn't obsessive.

>>49107885
Well I mean, I have you directly quoted saying
>I'm the troll
So I guess it's true.

WHAT DID SHE DO BROS
WHAT DID SHE DO
WHAT HAPPENED
AIEEE

>>49107711
People have been thinking gods and spirits are they're friends for millennia. The only difference is now there's a market for it.

>>49107972
Now that's taking things out of context

The only trolls I see here are the ones pushing this narrative that she said something wrong that should be condemned

>>49108018
See >>49102048

I like how ITT, only twice has it been brought up the part about how she only answered the friend part and completely did not answer the simp part leaving most to interpet that she fully thinks of them as simps.

>>49107971
>Or you know, a normal human being that isn't obsessive.
Developing emotional attachments is what normal human beings do. Not developing emotional attachments is what sociopaths do. You're a sociopath.

so much for the cringe cowgirl play, dumb whore.

>>49108063
Developing emotional attachments to RATIONAL things is what human being do. Developing attachments to IRRATIONAL things is an actual mental disorder.

>>49107921
If you believe a streamer with an anime avatar is your friend, you're a delusional retard.

>>49107921
no, they provide a service which makes my life better. (entertainment)
it is nice to feel a sense of belonging, attachment, or homeboundness to things that make your life better, like your favorite song, favorite food, favorite activity.
but that's not really what you would define friendship as.
would you say friends are there to simply provide a service for you?

>>49107921
This, simple as that. Doesn't matter if it's real or not but mentally/psychologically the brain kind of treats it as such. You don't really-know her but you "know" at least bits and pieces of her. It's a fancy trick on our crude biology. Our brains evolved long before the internet and have yet to catch up on fully-separating what it's seeing/hearing from your at least somewhat regarding it as the current reality. It's why people get immersed into movies, books and such. Getting immersed into a chuuba talking is like that only it's even more-real than movies/games etc because that's a real person talking there talking to other people "near" you in the same chat - maybe even you if you're lucky. Hell if you've ever watched a literal 2view on twitch you can outright have a straight up 1-1 chat with them sometimes.

Otherwise it's more like, if you -could- talk to her 1-1, you feel like you could do so right away without it being weird or awkward, you know what she likes to do/eat/watch etc already, know what pushes her buttons, what she takes seriously or not i.e what to avoid or not etc. She omits or probably lies about part of it but unless she literally lies about every single thing including being vegan etc then there is some suspension of disbelief going where you feel like you at least have some vague familiarity with her as a person.

>>49108061
Do you have plans to stop skinning and eating newborn puppies?

>>49108157
So you are saying that developing attachmen to WOMEN is a mental disorder?

>>49100809
Yet I can go to any vtuber or vtuber community and easily find references to this shithole.

>>49108157
>Developing emotional attachments to RATIONAL things is what human being do
Developing emotional attachments to a person who entertains you is rational. Again, your failure to understand basic human behavior marks you as a sociopath.

>>49108219
Exactly this, it's a one sided relationship and it's incredibly unempathetic and narcissistic to take it to another level.

Now Fauna joins the same ranks as Mori, Kronii, Bae, and Ame.

>>49108157
I guess you just stand there staring at the TV going "this movie isn't real, this is bullshit why are you all sitting here watching these pretend dinosaurs" or something. You're fucking retarded objectively. Or more accurately, aspergers-bound people are the types who literally cannot mentally let themselves out of the real world and have a paranoia about doing so.

>>49108309
Yes it's totally rational, which is why there's a psychiatric term for it and can be diagnosed.

>>49103460
I want more of that asmr where she put the camera up her bagoo

>>49108357
No, it's more like I sympathize with the shows I watch, but then detach myself from it when it's over because I can separate fact from fiction like a normal person.

>>49108275
this only works when you say it's a yes or no question, retard, she had 12 minutes of explaining and didnt address it

>>49102048
>The clip is literally 2min
The clip is, the rant itself in the vod isn't.
>parasocial relationships
They aren't a bad thing.
>Which proves the trollish nature
Agree
>Give me only one reason for her to do so?
Why address the friend part and not the simp part? An easy "No they aren't simps" is enough.
By only paying attention to the first half she left the other half to complete interpretation. "If we aren't friends then we're probably simps because she didn't deny it
>am I legit? I guess not, since I disagree with your bullshit.
I didn't say you weren't, stop putting words in my mouth.
There are legitimate signs of discontent and there are saplings that think it's fine, I don't know why you assume "It HAS to be one way or another. NO INBETWEEN"
>your entire last paragraph
Not a unicorn, just a disgruntled sapling because shit, my life isn't great, I like watching vtubers to forget, I don't have delusions of fucking her or even speaking with her for 5 minutes for free, but I'm still gonna be hurt when she basically didn't stand up for her chat and just lectured us.
Sure sure, it's pathetic, whatever, kick a guy when he's already down.
I tried to be civil at least.

>>49107769
>is still talking to a flesh and blood person.
Yeah and that flesh and blood person is an entertainer billions of miles far from you, who don't give a shit about you because she doesn't know you. The only fact mentioning such a trivial fact can hurt saplings shows how bluepilled they (you) are.

>>49099961
she's not going to do it, but as a sapling i will for her. come sit on daddy's lap and he'll lick your ears.

Unicorns always lose. IRyS and Kiara are next

>>49108061
This has been said several times in various threads throughout the day, it's somehow not as important to people as addressing her long-winded explanation it seems.

But yes it is a kind of glaring issue IMO and she should absolutely have just said "neither" to being asked "are saplings friends or simps" to preface her talk. She just said "not friend" and (no comment) about the simp part.

>>49108443
to be more accurate, it's called the humanities and art appreciation. with the humanities, we are able to imagine many different things that the real world mostly just doesn't have, and most of the time it can be quite an enjoyable activity.
but in this case, you cant really be friends with someone you dont really know and someone who doesnt really know you.

>>49108485
Because it was a loaded question and there is no satisfactory black and white answer. If she replies you're friends then she gets roasted for being heavily parasocial, she replies you're simps and she gets put on blast for it too. But this is an either or situation, which she's clearly trying to explain.

>>49108485
Anonymous User Refuses to Address Status of Own Future Puppy Skinning Plans When Asked

>>49104374
>Lose
Loose is what your shoelaces get.

>>49108524
I'm retarded, meant for >>49107941

>>49108384
>there's a psychiatric term for it
ahh, you have no idea what you're talking about

>>49106487
>UMM SHE'S NOT YOUR FRIEND YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS L + KILL URSELF INCEL
What's wrong in this quote?
Fuckin' kill yourself if you believe Fauna is your friend lmao

>streamer streams to be entertaining and to get validation
>viewers watch streams to support the streamer and provide validation to the streamer
>in theory, this creates a symbiotic relationship
>if the streamer begins to feel superior to their viewers, their viewers will stop watching and/or providing needed validation, causing the streamer to lash out at their viewers
>if the viewers overpower the streamer, the streamer becomes entirely dependent on their viewers validation and their product suffers
Fauna went down the wrong path and guess what happened

A Vtuber will never love you, she may lover her community and you can be apart of that community but she will NEVER love (You)

What if Fauna doubles down in the asmr stream but doing it in asmr mode the entire time? Would be funny shit

>>49108671
Let me give you a hint, it starts with ficto and ends with phillia

>>49108635
I don't understand whats inherently wrong with saying yes to friends when you have
>FBK friends
>Lamy your girlfriend
>Nene chat is her husband
I guess she doesn't want to be viewed as cringe?

Why did fauna stop doing members asmr? Thats what I membered to her for in the first place.

>>49108674
parasocials always take Ls in the vtuber fan base. They should give up honestly.

>Unicorn bad
>Parasocial bad
>Idol bad
Such a nijicuck tactic

>>49108800
Yes you're right fbk, lamy, and nene would definitely be all those things if they met you irl.

>>49108747
ITS NOT FAIR
I THOUGHT FAUNA LOVED ME

this board is so fucking pathetic.
about everything, honestly.

>>49108747
No shit, no one was expecting Fauna to individually marry us or even pretend to be our wife -- but somehow couldn't play along with simply being a friend which is a platonic term and loose as you want to make it. Somehow she had to deny this basic thing and implicitly call her fans simps

>>49108871
Nobody, not even the troll sc, asked for irl.

>>49108931
Then sounds like you don't quite understand what a friend is

>>49108823
Yes
Yes
Idol is not bad since you can use it to motivate you and improve yourself. Being a parasocial loser means you give up and resort to delusions instead of facing reality. It is a fate which druggies and alcoholics take to escape their pains. It is not respectable by any means to waste your life.

>>49108767
you realize Fauna is a real person, right?

>>49108959
You can be friends with people online.
Nvm this is just arguing with someone that has no intention to argue in good faith.

>>49108635
doesnt matter if it's loaded when you have all the time you want to reply. "I do not now, nor have I ever skinned puppies and eaten them alive, therefore I do not need to make a plan regarding such a matter"
she could of course also have chosen to simply ignore the loaded question, or even call out the loaded question as a loaded question. She didnt do any of these things, she did what she chose to do and is being judged on her choice

>>49108635
I think she could have winged it by qualifying "friends" as in "friendly group" instead of zero in on the 1-1 dynamic. So she can say she likes her fandom as a whole like an abstract friend-ish thing, obviously not like a singular person but whatever this group is. Some other EN, I forgot who but I think Gura or Ame maybe, said she sees chat as like a singular entity, not a person but like an amorphous talking blob. I don't think our brains are wired to handle it, neither the viewers nor the chuuba, like humans did not evolve to interact this way.

Also as an aside, contrary to what Fauna said actually 2views on twitch can in fact have constant 1-1 chatter with their couple of viewers and over time these can at least turn into online friends, like mods on a discord server she might talk to off stream etc. That happens - a lot. Some chuubas even get straight up groomed. However for a chat of Fauna's size there's no way she can ever piece these as individual users so it makes sense for her to say that. That's not to say some chuubas don't try however - I've seen it, some of them will keep notes on viewers and recognize them if they come back and such. Fauna's view is not at all the reality for all streamers, another dangerous thing was she said her conclusions apply to all streamers and that's actually bullshit.

/vt/ is the most s(oy)boy board after /r9k/

>>49108991
You have never talked with fauna. You have never met eye to eye with fauna. You have never spoken a word to fauna. Fauna doesn't know you exist.

>>49108800
I swear she rehashed her speech from a fleshtuber she watched. It sounds like Ludwig's video about parasocialism, down to the title about him stating that he's not the viewer's friend. Too bad Fauna doesn't realize she isn't him

>>49108907
You're the worst of all for thinking you're the king of the peasants and you're not covered in shit standing here. You're a vtuber enthusiast on a vtuber board on 4chan. You ain't hot shit.

>>49108991
You realize that intentionally supressing things about your personality to meet goals related to how a persona is perceived to be is a performance and this a character right? You're not seeing her, you're seeing the her she needs to show you due to the industry standards.

>>49109032
>doesnt matter if it's loaded
Said no one with the right intentions ever.

>>49109057
Ludwig's video is stupidly misconstructed, the guy doesn't even understand what parasocial is
>you watch streamers because you're parasocial
>you comment and like because you're parasocial
>you make artwork because you're parasocial
No mention of parasocial behavior whatsoever from him, he's pretty stupid in that front.
But he was very happy when people came to meet him and recognized him in Australia.

>>49109099
People do this literally day with everyone they see. You are always playing a character.

>mfw this thread

>>49109098
no matter what I am, you're a delusional socially stunted retard crying at the revelation that you're not a vtuber's friend.

>>49109019
You can, and if you ever met them or bumped into them irl you probably wouldn't go "ew leave me alone" and run away though. So you have too loose a qualifier for what a friend is

>off collab with kronii
>instant yab
hmmm

>>49108907
absolutely not.
i like the feet threads and the asmr threads. They're overall very nice. if you dont like it here why are you here, It's not like people will express that they want you to stay here. nooo please we value you so much, good grief you dont even have to announce that youre leaving, just go lmao

Fauna I need to goom NOW

>>49109213
Yeah if you're a sociopath. And what you're saying isn't even 1 to 1 with what I'm talking about

>>49109099
so the so called schizos that were saying that she's just pretending and being fake on stream were right all along huh?

>>49109255
I thought the people predicting this were schizo

>>49109312
Do you think Hugh Jackman is actually wolverine?

>>49108991
she literally said from the transcript that she tries her hardest to only show her good side
what real person only shows (or has) a good side?

>>49109255
Kronii learned well from Mori, but I think kronii is the true apprentice and has done more destruction. She hates her fans more than mori and laughed at her gachis in members stream

>She wants everyone to have a good time and not tie people down with baggage
>This now makes her fake
Is this the new angle

>>49109374
This, and it's literally what everyone on social media does. Does this person think vloggers really show their whole day? Like they just never take shits or argue with their gf?

>>49109161
I don't agree with it all of it yeah but it definitely sounds like she watched it and then took some talking points from it. It's basically the video that infected western viewers with the parasocial buzzword

https://youtu.be/WzyQbfh4t_8

>>49109312
it's not like they're actually from here or care about fauna in the first place. The unicorns they are "owning" and fauna is like cold fire or western gfe.

>>49109453
>parasocial buzzword
I didn't realize that calling something what it is is a buzzword now

It's another fucking retarded thread where people are putting shit in her mouth when she literally never said anything about parasociality and actually that she has a relationship with her audience but just says that it's explicitly not friendship.

>>49109277
it's important to remind you stupid faggots that you're not going to be loved, ever; least of all by the entertainers that you drop your paycheck on every week

>>49109508
You're in an incel board please take it easy with the maladapted 29 year old KHV NEETs.

>>49109508
>asked a question (that should have been ignored) about whether or not saplings are friends or simps
>says saplings are not friends
>does not deny the other
Yeah, and in the context of the question, the relationship is that saplings are simps, because there isn't a friendship happening there.

>>49109247
nta but it's actually socially ascendant. These kinds of technology-aided relationships will be considered normal in the future, probably within your lifetime, and you'll have to adjust your npc programming to go along with it.

>>49109364
Wolverine doesn't go on film asking the movie audience what kinds of Sims mods they used back in the day or whatever. There's a lot of shit Fauna talks about where there's no reason to lie about it because it'd actually become more interesting to lie than just say what it was. It's not 100% an act in other words. What percent is, I dunno, but it's definitely not 100%. I can get that not everything she talks about is 100% true, more like there are gaping omissions of facts about stuff out of necessity, but that's not really the same thing as taking on a scripted act.

>>49109652
She didn't even read it out loud and hyper fixated about the Friendship part. If not for shit like Hololyzer you wouldn't have even known what she was replying to.

>>49101713
>I don't want to be your fucking friend
Kek. I feel like that's what she would actually would say given her past.

>>49109452
>Makes dozens of gfe asmr and members content
>"We are not friends"
Yes, fake as fuck and clearly vacuuming paypiggy wallets

>>49109754
>gfe asmr
The ones with any level of narrative are labeled ROLEPLAY. Do you call Bae GFE because she releases ROLEPLAY videos? And she has done a SINGLE ASMR behind memberships OVER A YEAR AGO.

>>49109632
Im actually a KV non-neet!

>>49109536
hmm
1) i dont have a paycheck
2) i dont spend what money i do have on them. they are salaried employees and make steady money without me tipping them. streams are completely free to watch
youtube business model incentivizes view counts, likes, amount of streaming time, comment sections
their employers' business model probably depends on tips/superchat money but also advertisers, sponsorships, and god knows what

now what other answers do you want before you are able to stop with your unsolicited public service reminders?

>>49109508
so if saplings aren't friends, which is like the lowest rung on the ladder of how much someone actually cares ladder, how can she claim there is any kind of relationship? itsn't that contradictory? then she basically admits that she has faked her entire personality by "only showing her good sides", which further discredits herself. What is left after all of this?

>>49109885
>they are salaried employees
Kek

>>49109364
>When introduced to Hugh, Mary couldn't help but beam: 'It's wonderful to meet you. Can I touch you?'
>Hugh replied, 'You can touch me. Absolutely!'
>Mary further told Hugh, 'I'm in a nursing home and I've got your picture plastered all over the walls. The nurses and everybody agree with me that you are the most perfect man on God's earth!'
>'Wow,' Hugh responded with the world's most charming smile.

>>49109503
It probably applies in this case but I see it spammed all the time where it isn't so people think they know what they're talking about with their fancy word

>>49109911
I actually forget that some of you are genuinely autistic. She actually fucking spelled it out if you watched the goddamn thing.

>>49109911
Is this your first time watching any form of entertainer?

>>49109508
https://files.catbox.moe/7gp6af.mp3

>>49109954
Except it's literally parasocial.

>>49109863
>wagie
not a good look bro

>>49109969
How does this go against what I said? Do you actually think she's mocking being parasocial here or what? Why do people keep posting this and not explaining their stance like a bunch of fucking monkeys.

>>49109508
the whole discussion was about warding off parasocial behavior though? declaring that saplings are not her friends is a hard attempt at telling parasocial viewers who think of her as her friend to fuck off

>>49109958
>asked if saplings are friends or simps
>denies friendship
>doesn't dent simps
Yeah, she spelled out that the relationship she views between her and chat is simplings.

>>49110047
No it fucking isn't, PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT SHE SAYS. Please. I'm fucking begging you.

>>49109911
She doesn't know you. You don't know her. And yes, watching hundreds of hours of a vtuber doesn't mean you "know" her. Vtubers only share enough to keep a conversation going, but many details are either hidden behind "lore" or outright lies.

>>49110093
So I should watch JPs instead?

>>49110047
>hard attempt at telling parasocial viewers who think of her as her friend to fuck off
You act like it's a bad thing to tell people "you have a problem get some help"

>>49110069
Being subjected to a false dichotomy is not proof you low IQ schizo. She never mentioned, acknowledged, or read the simp part. You are making that conclusion because it is convenient for you shitposting. Now kys

>>49110132
I'm going to be JP exclusive from now on, this is the 2nd time one of the EN girls have done this to me

>>49110031
>she literally never said anything about parasociality

>>49109727

Why are people so obsessed with putting labels on things. If you like her content, watch her. If you don't, fuck off.

>>49110132
Stop simping and go outside instead. Vtubers are dangerous to your brain like porn.

>>49110257
That was a fucking member stream months ago you retarded faggot, not in the conversation yesterday. Holy fuck are you genuinely stupid

my condolences saplings

>>49110194
nta but nah it's kinda bad she didn't deny it. the best possible answer was simply "neither" to "are saplings friends or simps" and just fucking move on.

then again this is kind of the first epic fuckup from Fauna after thousands of SCs, it was gonna happen eventually. also the timing of it being literally right after having a 'heart to heart' with kronii and it sounding not unlike something kronii would have said, is all very sus.

>>49110276
When I went outside I became a drug addict. Vtubers saved me.

Ok your post is sincere, so I'll answer seriously.
>>49108524
>They aren't a bad thing.
Of course they are, even streamers warn about it. Even Ludwig. People compensate with parasocial because of a social struggle IRL. But you can disagree. Not my problem.

>An easy "No they aren't simps" is enough.
She's a streamer from the biggest chuba corpo, don't be naive, simp is a risque word, it's even banned on Twitch. You want her to give "her easy thought about Putin" or the war in Ukrain too? Man, get a grip.
>"If we aren't friends then we're probably simps because she didn't deny it
Yes because that's fondamentally what we are. Simping is defending or following a woman when you're a man. If you already supachatted a streamer, then yeah you simped. You're free to use your money the way you want but just be lucid about it. If it's not simping, then what's simping?
>I didn't say you weren't, stop putting words in my mouth.
True, you never said that, I just assumed you were the basic delusional polarized unicorn we can read everywhere in this thread. Your pov is actually more moderated.
>There are legitimate signs of discontent and there are saplings that think it's fine
True.
>because shit, my life isn't great
Here we go. The exact reason why parasocial relationships are warned about. That compensation comes from a social struggle in the first place, leaving people vulnerable because they feel lonely. I mean, my life isn't neither but I still don't think streamers I watch must consider themselves my friend or anything. I guess I've more resilience about my life not being great.
>but I'm still gonna be hurt when she basically didn't stand up for her chat and just lectured us.
And you shouldn't imo, because Fauna is a kind person, and her words weren't mean, but the truth was hard to swallow for insecure people. A friend is someone you spend time with, they come to your place IRL playing video games, or eating, or you hang out. A friend isn't a famous streamer you watch, type in her chat and like her videos. She's just a content creator. And in the next stream she will be as wholesome, comfy, fun, as usual, with the same calm voice, and not enjoying it would be stupid, because she did nothing wrong. She answered a question. "Are you our friend?" Answer : no. The real disrespect would have been saying yes while it's false, to me. It's because she wanna be genuine that she elaborated the answer. You're not her friend, she's not yours, and everything is ok with that because your real friends see you IRL. And if not, then you must find some, because human is a social animal. Loneliness is no good, and has a lot of consequences. I shouldn't precise such obvious things.
>Sure sure, it's pathetic, whatever, kick a guy when he's already down.
Nah I'm not like that. wagmi.
>I tried to be civil at least.
Yes, and you were, and that's nice talking kindly with someone on that board, just don't be surprised if I wasn't in my first post because we usually address the retarded insulting troll.

>>49109911
>tries to only show good side of personality
>this means she faked her entire personality
no, it means she tries to show 50% of her personality, which is the good side. the other 50% which would be the bad side, is tried not to be shown. there is no "entire" here. you are seeing what is shown as 50%

>>49110309
The best answer to a black-or-white question is to ignore answering it in the first place. Then the fallacy will perpetuate with them saying "her silence means approval", but this of course is not a valid argument.

>>49110090
>>49109911
She literally says it, she is a mere stage performer and you get leave once the performance ends. This was part of the performance where she fucked up and broke the 4th wall for some godforsaken reason

>I mean, if you want me to be real, I'll be real
>we as fauna and saplings, we cannot be friends, or we should not be friends, theres a lot of reasons
>is I think important for boundaries to be maintained
>I am here to entertain you, and that is all really
>Thats if im being really real, which maybe, I dont know do you want me to be real?
>and this goes for every streamer I think

>>49110309
>simply "neither" to "are saplings friends or simps" and just fucking move on.
Except the answer is simps and everyone knows it. The problem here is that there's such a negative connotation associated with simp that you can't say it outright without getting shit on

>>49110093
Pfft, only close family would know her better.

>>49110309
Anon most people don't fucking use hololyzer to check and keep up with SCs. She probably figured no one paid attention to it and didn't acknowledge it because she didn't fucking have to because she didn't even read it out loud.

>>49110028
yes i agree but i've seen it used in places where it shouldn't be(not related to this shitfest l)

>>49110428
People actually believe this, and that's sad

>>49110414
KEEP
FUCKING
WATCHING
I FUCKING BEG OF YOU
LISTEN TO WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY INSTEAD OF STOPPING THERE. I. FUCKING. BEG.

>>49110432
C'mon man, she was here for Ame's and Kronii's shit, at this point you can't play dumb when you've been in the game as long as her and you saw similar things happen to your genmates/senpai

>>49110416
she used to say she felt like chat was all hanging out in her room watching her play over her shoulder. It's a bit nicer than the dichotomy and probably what saplings actually believed.

NO FAUNA I WILL NOT GET A LIFE
YOU ARE MY MOMMY
YOU ARE MY FRIEND
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>49110428
You don't get to know someone by watching them play video games in front of a monitor with text going across the screen from random men. Eat reality pills buddy

>>49107941
>Please unicorns of /vt/, kill yourselves. None will regret you. Neither there or IRL.
>Nobody
usually the unicorns are the ones that empty their wallets on your oshi, you might want to rethink your stance unless you want to fill that hole.

>>49110524
That's because backseat gamers, not because you're her friend

>>49110484
I DID WATCH THE REST
ITS MEANDERING BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW I SHOULD GO AND MAKE REAL FRIENDS INSTEAD OF TRYING WITH A STREAMER

>>49110562
Retard

>>49110562
>never played roms with friends irl
so this is actually projection

>>49110565
No you clearly didn't fucking see the rest because she literally flatout explains the dynamic between her and the chat and what she likes and why she functions the way she does.

>>49110558
>Implying unicorns posting on vt have money.

>>49110554
this but unironically

>>49110323
>Fauna is a kind person
you see, if there's one thing I like about Fauna, it's that she seems to be genuinely kind, so I would never take what she said as a rant in bad faith like some people would

that or she is a completely deranged gaslighting mastermind, which would rock my world if it was the case.

no one can be vegan and not be kind, even if sometimes they can be dumb and their compassion often misplaced.

>>49110470
It's true. You'd have to spend just as much time with them irl to match watching the streams. The people you meet all have masks on.

>>49110416
yea no shit but it's her job not to blunder into the simps answer

>>49110524
this, I don't think people fucking comprehend how fauna herself hit basically every single pro-parasocial signal in the book constantly.

if someone like Kronii gave the exact answer Fauna did, it'd probably be like "whatever, of course she'd be like that" but hearing it from Fauna is like someone switching their position on pineapple on pizza, that's like a static thing you just assumed is cut and dry. People assumed Fauna was always very gentle and close to her fans and would avoid trying to say anything that might remotely hurt their feelings .. but did it anyway.

>>49110645
Vt unicorns contribute the least to their oshi, unless it is an ARS troll superchat of course. You see those faggots boasting about their shitty scs on the catalog all the time.

>>49110629
Except she's not your friend

>>49110641
now explain the contradictions in her statements then? her message is a literal paradox.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA

>>49110668
eh her and shondo have a fucked up relationship

>>49110668
>it's that she seems to be genuinely kind,
Yes because she wants you to feel that way, just as all performers do.

>>49110705
not anymore

>>49110557
Yes you do, dumbass. Do you think a fairy comes by and sprinkles knowledge dust on you if you're in the same room as someone? Wake up, you're watching them just the same.

>>49110416
the answer isn't 'simps' nor is it 'friends'
it's a bit more nuanced than that which is why the SC is a trap and should've been ignored.
I can watch a streamer understanding she's not my friend and that we don't have a personal connection but care about some small stupid small talk because it makes me happy or entertains me.

>>49110685
You act like vtubers are a bunch of people with masters degrees in communications. They're a bunch of young women who like to play video games.

>>49110668
>trusting vegans
the most morally high horse retards on this planet
nah im good

>>49110847
Agree the SC is a trap and should be ignored. Agree to disagree on the simps situation

>>49110906
Never gonna trust a vegan again after this, now that you point it out.