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49098695 No.49098695 [Reply] [Original]

EN gachikois are worse than JP ones. Change my mind.

>> No.49098809

>>49098695
Because EN girls won't fuck them via ASMR.
JP girls do orgasm ASMR for their gachikois.

>> No.49098885

>>49098809
Δ

>> No.49098977

>>49098695
Because 90% of JP girls don't give out reality checks and quite literally love their gachikois.
Awful behaviour? Yes.
But people like to live in delusion so ket them, quite the same as drugs or smoking, you can't call them out.

>> No.49098992

>>49098977
Δ

>> No.49099053

>>49098695
JP gachis have unironically calmed down a fuck ton in recent months.

The last thing the JP gachis got mad about was Laplus collabing with males and even then, it seems like they've mostly gotten over it.

>> No.49099120

>>49098695
Kronii was the only EN that had a significant gachikoi fanbase and she burned most of it during the yab
Don't confuse parasocial viewers (nearly 100% of the audience) with gachikoi (usually a very small portion of chat)

>> No.49099279
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>>49099120
>Parasocial viewers
>100%
My fucking god anon...

>> No.49099315
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>>49098695
I'm normally not one for cross-branch comparisons, especially those that demerit one or the other, but it's related. If EN is a pale imitation of JP (like some believe), then their schizos are no different--especially when English-speaking schizos proudly tout jargon and labels specifically made to be mocked by JP fans (as in, actual Japanese people, whose language (You) cannot speak)
Every day it seems like this board is filled with more and more ESLs. Whether they're from Southeast Asia or they're just born after 2000 doesn't really matter, because they're all dumb as fuck and not welcome here

>> No.49099319

>>49099279
Yes? Vtubing is inherently parasocial

>> No.49099328

>>49098695
EN fabase has no pre-existing idol culture so their concept of gachis is basically an over the top parody of JP ones.

>> No.49099360

>>49099120
>Burned most of it during the yab
Only Gabe actually left and that was because he was forced out, with debate on whether Kronii actually knew he was forced out. The rest of us are still there.

>> No.49099364

>falseflag as upset gachis
>wow aren't gachis so like totally bad you guys?
be less obvious

>> No.49099367

EN Holos are worse than JP ones. Also there is no way you are comparing bitching on a Sudanese pen refilling board to the literal stalking that JP fans do. You think it's a coincidence the JP Holos move every few months? No it's because psycho JP fans are after them.

>> No.49099410

EN women are worse than JP women by a greater margin and it's not even debatable

>> No.49099412

>>49099360
why are you faggot kronies so obsessed with this other faggot called gabe

>> No.49099427

>>49099360
At least 7 people left for good from the spreadsheet, that doesn't include people like TopNepGear and BlackKnight who bitched at first and then came back.

>> No.49099451

>>49099319
No it isn't, stopped shoving your bullshit everywhere.
I watch Jabo on Twitch when he streams, does that mean i want to fuck him or have him as a friend? Sure as fuck not.

>> No.49099458

>>49099319
Parasocial is one of those words that has been dragged through the mud by people within and adjacent to this hobby to the point of being unrecognizable, so while you're technically correct, there's almost certainly a not-inconsiderable portion of the viewerbase of any given chuuba who just tunes in for entertainment and isn't personally invested in them at all. I know some holos have mentioned how their average viewer retention is only a few minutes.

>> No.49099471

>>49099360
>The rest of us are still there.
Is that why her viewer numbers dropped to 50-25% of what they were before?

>> No.49099481

>>49099412
I'm not obsessed with him, I'm just saying what happened.

>> No.49099493

>>49099120
Every girl from the unicorn pyramid has a significant amount of gachis and you'd be dumb to argue otherwise

>> No.49099557

1% deflection thread

>> No.49099560

>>49099410
If you actually spoke Japanese, you'd be on /jp/, but you're here

>> No.49099598

>>49098695
what if i say no? WHAT YOU GOING TO DO?

>> No.49099606

>>49099560
This is the board for vtubers

>> No.49099611

>>49099493
Every girl has gachis no matter their "stance" in this manufactured bullshit culture war

>> No.49099638

>>49099598
Δ

>> No.49099648

>>49099493
I would agree that it is a noticeable portion of their fanbases but not enough to be the majority, only Kronii had a fanbase that was more gachi than casual viewer

>> No.49099652

>>49099360
No, I can name like 10, but most of them were smart enough not to out themselves, publicly.

Here's a fun exercise go to one of her old member posts and look at the names who are no longer members.

>> No.49099691

>>49099120
>Don't confuse parasocial viewers (nearly 100% of the audience) with gachikoi (usually a very small portion of chat)
anon?

>> No.49099749

>>49099691
That's how it is

>> No.49099777

>>49099367
now if only the en schizos took it into their hands and actually doxxed the remaining girls...

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>>49099606
>faggots obsessed with fake, meaningless numbers
>faggots obsessed with making shit up about streamers they don't watch
>faggots obsessed with console wars between companies that never even interact 95% of the time
>faggots obsessed with others faggots
>no one watching or discussing vtuber streams or content
Could've fooled me

>> No.49099947

>>49099560
I'm doing my reps, not 100% there yet but my oshi communicates mostly in boomer anime and game memes so I'm good with her, juust still around EN enough to watch it burn down with the rest of western civilization

>> No.49100121

>>49099652
Ten, one, I knew it was a number I could count on my own two hands.

>> No.49100202

>>49099451
>I watch Jabo on Twitch
Nobody cares about your shitaste, homowatcher.

>> No.49100765

>>49099691
ahem not him but:
Gachikoi - schizo simps who is seriously in love with the talents, drop massive simp money. romantically parasocial.
Members - like them enough to give money, think of them as friends. parasocial but not romantic. (apply to every streamers, no just vtubers)
Greyfags - comprised of the poor and most /vt/ users, can be parasocial but poor, filthy casuals or outright antis.

>> No.49101171

>>49098695
they don't even want to watch clips! Constantly gatekeeping and telling other fans to watch streams. Or even to buy merch!

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>>49098695
You will never be a japanese.

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>>49098695

>> No.49102529

>>49099560
There isn't a single world where I want to actually understand what the jps are saying

>> No.49102692

>>49098695
>Change my mind
No EN chuuba has ever been terminated or quit because of her gachikois. And if you didn't come here to this board specifically, you would see why.

>> No.49102785

>>49099120
Cover wouldn't have encouraged all of holoEN to release Valentine's Day merch if gachikoi were rare. An issue with the western vtuber market is most of the casual fans put vtubers on as background entertainment and won't even turn off their adblockers.

>> No.49102943

>>49102785
>Cover wouldn't have encouraged all of holoEN to release Valentine's Day merch if gachikoi were rare.
Completely wrong
You have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.49103082

>>49099451
I agree sister!!! We’re totally parasocial when it comes to Vox though!!!

>> No.49103271

>>49098695
EN are worse because they talk big but lack conviction to actually do anything about it. JP schizos put the most schizo tranmycord to shame.

Even the fans are failures like their vtubers.

>> No.49103378

>>49098695
lmao why? because they shit up /vt/ instead of 5ch??

>> No.49104896

>>49098695
Duh

>> No.49105037

>>49099560
/hlg/ makes this place look tame dude. Also /djt/ is home to the most insufferable posers this site has. And don't get me started on 2hushitters

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>> No.49105499

>>49098695
Why would i try changing your mind on something you're actually correct on?

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>> No.49108042

>>49105515
One of these quotes is wrong and it is falsely attributed to the one who rhymes with Macaroni

>> No.49108183

>>49098695
It's because you can understand them and have to deal with them on a daily basis, whereas you only get glimpses of JP gachikois when some big drama happens that gets translated.

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