/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49078034

>>49078034
Funny thing is literally no one cared when she said this.

Green woman says she's not your friend, though, and every single schizo /here/ started crying blood.

>>49078034

>>49078141
Marine was way more sensible, green woman worded everything horribly.

>>49078141
Easy. Because Green Woman speaks English and this site is so lazy they need to be spoon fed everything. Even their rrats.

>>49078141
>Green woman says she's not your friend, though
Yeah, that's the difference. It's a pretty big difference and changes the context of the point entirely.

>>49078258
How? Genuinely, how did she word it badly?

she's not wrong
what will you do when your oshi graduates?
they COULD keep doing this well into their 40s, like idolm@ster seiyuus, but vtubing is a lot more work than doing idolm@ster stuff, and you are a fool if you are relying on that

get more hobbies
vtubing should just be a small chunk of your life
you can't let your life revolve around some anime girl that doesn't even know you exist

Compare to
>I'm sure you've heard the saying don't meet your heroes, I don't think that necessarily applies to everybody, but I think its good if you can just watch streamers and enjoy their streams for what they are

>Fauna is mean in real life?
>I don't think so, and I think I try to be myself on stream but you know, if we were friends we might have disagreements, who knows
>there might be things that you would be like, like maybe, the fact that I made 10 servings of curries and you don't eat leftovers is irreconcilable
>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know
>I think that's best, because I don't want to bring your guys moods down, by showing you, like, a non positive side of me, you know

>But I think for friends its important to open up, show them more of you if you want to be really close
>Anyway, I hope that is okay, I know, I know, don't be sad, cherish your friends because they are just as cool as streamers I promise.
>I promise they are

>There's nothing particularly special about streamers, I mean like sure maybe there's a streamer and they're great at singing but does that make them a better friend, no, it doesn't
>someone can be a great friend even if they aren't great at singing

>My friends are cooler than you? I hope so, I hope so
>quite a few of my friends are streamers, what do I do? I mean that's an exception.

>I mean obviously streamers have friends.
>And I'm sure sometimes people have made friends with streamers and it workout out, but you know

>Anyway there's my deep talk, I answered it as honestly as I could, I am happy to be here, and entertain you guys and hang out and its fun

>yeah exactly, the great part of streaming is interaction.
>There's a back and forth which makes it great, the banter.
>you just try to make me laugh? You do, you guys type funny stuff all the time.

>I think I would've had a harder time be a lets player without having a chat to bounce off of mmm hmm
>But, you should always...I know I shouldn't lecture you guy...
>It's important for you guys to not neglect your real lives too

>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.
YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>EOP misunderstands the context of a JP chuuba's words
many such cases. marine's statement is completely different from fauna's.

>>49078141
ESLs are retarded and /jp/fags are insane
More news later tonight

>>49078383
>YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS
why do you nijinigs keep trying to transplant things from your "livers" on to holos? that phrase was said by your 3view fish. fauna never said it.

>>49078530
>fauna never said it
Lean to read between the lines

>>49078383
Since you are cutting parts of the transcript anyways, can you make it even shorter? You don't need to act like you didn't modify/remove part of what she said.

>>49078034
Post the full clip

>>49078574
>be a fucking schizo and make things up

>>49078383
None of this is bad at all, is this seriously what you nijiniggers have been making all these shitpost threads for?

>>49078374

Holy fuck this is a star wars crying soiboy moment. I bet all dragoons are like this.

>>49078694
It's because she said "fauna and saplings could not be, or should not be, friends" and they took that and didn't listen at ALL to anything after despite her clearly explaining her reasoning

>>49078258
>green woman worded everything horribly.
you cannot convince me you're not a woman. fauna's response was the most generically neutral-positive response imaginable.

>>49078675
>be a retard and miss obvious insinuations

>>49078034
>Don't be completely dependent on me as a source of happiness
Is very different from
>Don't ever consider me your friend

>>49078374
>what will you do when your oshi graduates?
dragoons specifically will probably start car-bombing restaurants, not sure about other fanbases.

reasonable. why are you comparing
>don't entrust your happiness onto one person
vs
>i am not your friend
they are in no way relatable.
what marine said is more sane and of sound mind than that whole rant fauna did.
what fauna's VA forgot is that she isn't fauna.
fauna is fauna.
the model.
she projected herself onto fauna for some weird reason.

>>49078574
>Lean to read between the lines
WTF you are right, she said
KILL NIJINIGS LONG LIVE HOLOLIVE

Based Fauna

WTF did I miss?

>>49078034
>I can't take that kind of responsibility for you
Selfish. How would you feel if your fans stopped taking responsibility for your financial situation huh?

>>49078861
Fauna did her famous power rangers rant

>>49078574
>literally has to make shit up to pretend what fauna said is remotely similar to what finana said
you fucking wish finana would pause a stream to tell you you deserve to have fulfilling relationships and that she will continue to have fun with you.

>>49078943
see >>49078798

>>49078141
Im sure a buncha people replied with bs reasons but the real reason is that they understand english and not japanese

>>49078985
see >>49078943

>>49078830
Marine wouldn't say she is your friend if you asked her about it.

>>49078861
what other anon said, it was legendary. been about a full day of bitching and whining

>>49078904
She'd go back to work in pharmaceuticals.

>>49078989
Ironic, because if you knew Japanese, you'd know the context of what Marine said is completely different to Fauna's.

>>49078383
Seriously that rant just kept going and going and it kept getting worse and worse, its like she said something, immediately regretted, didn't want to back down on her own word and then tried to remedy by turning it into a "life lesson"

>>49078141
>>49078258
>>49078383
>>49078904
Fauna said better than Marine imo
https://youtu.be/EIRcUI-arkY

>parasocialism bad
>except when I want you to buy my romantic voice packs and merch uuuuuu

>>49079029
>I don't watch Marine's streams

>>49079151
>>parasocialism bad
Got a timestamp for that one?

>>49078141
marine didn't word it like retard with 'we are not friends'

>>49079029
>What if
we are talking about the image and the comparison OP is clearly trying to make.
also, you don't watch streams.

>>49079108
holocope
you liver doesn't like you

>>49079151
Westoid woman moment

>>49079198
>It sounds like you don't have any proof of her saying that on stream
We don't need a timestamp of her saying it directly. You know? Because of the implication

>>49078383
why'd you leave out the worst parts she said like:


>this is such a deep question that you're asking me
>I mean, if you want me to be real, I'll be real
>we as fauna and saplings, we cannot be friends, or we should not be friends, theres a lot of reasons
>is I think important for boundaries to be maintained
>I am here to entertain you, and that is all really
>and if you can have a good time here then that makes me happy
>*laughs*
>Thats if im being really real, which maybe, I dont know do you want me to be real?
>and this goes for every streamer I think

>>49078034
And now compare that to what Fauna said

>I mean, if you want me to be real, I'll be real
>we as fauna and saplings, we cannot be friends, or we should not be friends, there's a lot of reasons
>is I think important for boundaries to be maintained
>I am here to entertain you, and that is all really

>>49079153
>>49079242
Marine is my oshi you fucking freaks. YOU don't watch her. She is not your girlfriend or your friend.

Remember, any 2+view that claims you're their friend says it because they see you as a secondary bank, or has an incredibly loose definition of friendship.
It's almost always the former.

>>49079418
Post membership, EOP

>>49079418
proof next thread?

>>49078034
She is right tho. Only retards put their happiness in their oshi. You gotta have other shit going on in your life. This isn't cuck shit btw, she is just telling you to get a career that makes you happy or something, not only have her as your source of happiness.

>>49078034
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EIRcUI-arkY
Retard
All she said is that you shouldn't be dependant on someone including her
It's a good thing to be happy because of someone but if this person is the only thing that can make you happy then it's very bad, that's all

>>49079470
Right here, cuck. Looking forward to you calling it stolen.

>>49079359
>>49079415
>that's the worst part
How is this in ANY way comparable to "YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS"? Are you serious?

>>49079108
>Supa: I love you but I can't be happy without you and your voice is the only thing that brings me joy
>Marine: That cam be really dangerous, please look after yourself.
>Troll supa: Are we your friends or your simps
>Fauna: I'm gonna be real with you. We are cannot and should not be friends
Two ENTIRELY different things.

>>49079577
>file name
NTA but it is probably stolen...

>>49079151
>romantic
Trying too hard, Nijinig.

>>49078141
They were both trying to say that fans need other sources of happiness but it was easier to cherry pick what Fauna said to make it sound harsher. Also Nijisanji is desperate to deflect from the recent merch controversy.

>>49079577
>3 years
Based

>>49079303
Yeah, my liver hates how much I drink

>>49079151
Women

>>49079666
Where is this image stolen from since you're so knowledgeable about filenames?

>>49079621
Nijifags are hungry and desperate.

Guys are you retarded?
>we as Fauna and sapling cannot be friends
This is just code word for
>we can be friends as (Fauna's PL) and (my name)

>>49078141
it's just Nijifags trying to distract people, they're getting bullied pretty hard this week

What happened, did Fauna finally tell cucklings about Eddie?

>>49079653
Fauna quite literally said "Please take care of yourselves" after spending like 5 minutes saying you deserve cool friends.

>>49078141
Almost like they made two different statements, cuckling

>>49078141
>ame gives "improve yourself" speech and everyone loses it
>kronii gives "don't you have female friends" speech and everyone loses it

it's literally okay when Fauna does it

>>49079821
They already know anon...

>>49078034
>but anyway, make sure to give me your money and buy my merch

These mentally ill faggots actually thought they were friends with an entertainer. The world really has gone to shit

>>49078034
bad translation, not even what she said

>>49078141
marine worded it maturely
fauna worded it badly
that's it

>>49079940
Tell em Fauna!

>>49079359
That's it? Is that really what people are going nuts over? That's not especially bad.

>>49078374
This is why I only fantasize over anime girls not vtyubers. They'll always be how they are.

>>49080059
>t. graycuck tourist

>>49080100
Post membership with timestamp.

>>49079822
Yeah but if you read between the lines and get a very huge magnifying glass you can see that by pulling it out of my ass what she said is "i hate saplings"

>>49079940
At least they go full Hinckley to try and get her to notice them.

>>49080100
>extending the meaning of "cuck" to friendships now to continue parroting it under every situation like a retard
this board is a fucking dumpster fire. /vtg/ is our only hope.

>>49078034
> She said this at a time when multiple people were trauma dumping on her SCs
almost as if "context" is something that matters.

>>49080158
This but unironically
Let me guess, you have a hard time detecting sarcasm too

>>49079822
That's fine. The difference is that she started it in the worst way possible.
Patronizing aside, if she had just said half of that, there wouldn't be multiple threads shitting up the catalog.
She didn't, and that's why Marine has this one thread clipping what was said out of context and Fauna's response getting multiple.

>>49078141
>Marine: Don't expect anyone to make you happy all the time
>Fans: Makes sense
>F*una: We are not friends but I appreciate you but and but .. *1000 words that says nothing*
>Fans: What the fuck are you freaking out about? Hysterical woman.

>>49078374
>four fucking monitors
>doomer jak
>apex
yeah this is totally real

>>49080243
>that's why Marine has this one thread clipping what was said out of context and Fauna's response getting multiple.
The only reason Marine isn't getting a billion threads is because nobody here speaks japanese anon, don't play dumb

>>49078141
pendora literally said the exact same shit
now its ok when hololive said it

>>49080298
Really makes you think, huh?

>>49080328
nijiniggers are desperate to push the idea that their organs hating their fans is equivalent to the green woman telling you a streamer-audience relationship is not the same as a real life friendship and that you deserve the latter.

>>49079653
This, but loser dramafaggots will ignore it, because it doesnt fit their schizo ramblings.

>>49078374
I don't have any unnatural attachment to any hobby.
I'll probably be ultra sad for a while (I felt a LOT more sad about Coco's graduation announcement than my uncle jumping off a roof and offing himself) but VTubing is not my life, I still have other hobbies like programming, anime, manga, novels, friends that I hang out with etc. etc.
And Hololive as a whole is an ecosystem where there's multiple people around to share your grief if your oshi graduates, and so you'll be able to cope with it a lot better.

>>49078034
Where in Marine's speech did she say "I cannot or should not be your friend"
Everyone understands the overall sentiment Fauna was making and that's not the controversial part. The people take issue with is specifically the sentiment about not being friends

Which is especially sobering coming from Fauna who is a literal Gura simp and unironically became friends with streamers she looked up to

>>49079151
She didn't say that, but she said "be better" or "improve yourself" and that always sounds patronizing.
Not a huge deal but as men we should always be ready to stop women who speak out of line.

>>49080697
>unironically became friends with streamers she looked up to
yeah, by actually befriending her, not by throwing supachas at her.

>>49078141
I mean they very fact that it's FAUNA they're going after should be a clue in and of itself.
Seriously, FAUNA?

>>49078374
>you can't let your life revolve around some anime girl
Watch me.

>>49080489
>literally proved that anons point
Nothing to see here, tribalchimps flinging shit like usual.
Fauna is based and anyone shitting on her is a faggot

>>49078141
It makes sense once you understand EN fanbase is a parody of vtuber fans

>>49079535
based hag

>>49078141
green woman decided to really rub it in I wouldn't compare the two, it's really not the same take.

>>49080660
This. I don't see why this is so hard to understand for people. It's not as though the only people that value the parasocial connection of Hololive are unhinged psychopaths detached from reality. We all know Hololive wouldn't even be where it is today without fostering these feelings.

>>49078374
I have other hobbies I enjoy and a fine job. Vtubers aren't my only joy in life or some pathetic shit like that. But still, the sentiment of friendship and companionship after a hard day at work is a nice feeling as well. It's not that i need that sentiment to live, if it were forcibly ripped away from me I would simply put more time into something else and move on eventually. But at the same time, trying to take the cold and bitter approach that everything is strictly a business relationship and to never get attached isn't right either. Don't meet your heroes isn't the lesson that should be learned. Of course when you spend hours bantering back and forth, joking around, and she even has said herself that she remembers recurring viewers, there's a feeling of companionship that builds up, and it's not wrong to want that feeling to be validated.

>>49078383
>I'm sure you've heard the saying don't meet your heroes, I don't think that necessarily applies to everybody, but I think its good if you can just watch streamers and enjoy their streams for what they are

Fauna met holos irl and turns out half of them are bitches shitting on fans so she warned us not to get too attached, based fauner.

>>49079940
you don't understand vtubers, get the fuck out

Why is it so difficult for terminally online misanthropes to understand that the cute anime woman doesn’t want to be your friend? No one has ever wanted to be your friend, you should be used to it. Why sperg out from her letting you down as gently as physically possible?

Don’t give me some bullshit about “but it breaks my immersion in my fantasy of her being my gf.” My brother in Christ your mind is so poisoned to the idea that you daily argue with people on the internet about the most minute details of your oshi’s interactions to determine whether or not she’s sucked 500 cocks. You’ve destroyed your own fantasy from the very beginning. As soon as you watched her you were already planning your shitposts about her microphone settings being indicative of cock lust.

>>49080253
also projects her bullshit onto others with:

>Thats if im being really real, which maybe, I dont know do you want me to be real?
>and this goes for every streamer I think
Just talk about yourself, Fauna. Stay the fuck in your lane

>>49082339
>My brother in Christ
Immediately go back to twitter and don't come back

>>49082563
My brother in Christ it’s ok to use contemporary slang, your 5th grade language arts teacher isn’t in the room with us.

>>49078383
>>49079359
>I mean, if you want me to be real, I'll be real
>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know
retarded woman.
unsubscribed.

>>49078034
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE DELETE THIS THE JPS ALL PANDER AIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

Another deflection thread lmao, working overtime huh

>>49082640
>contemporary slang

>>49078383
What Fauna said is pretty much that when she streams it's a character to a large extent because she only shows you the happy, possitive side and a friend supposed to actually know you.
If you watched Fauna yes, she still keeps her distance but really most holomem don't, at least not to this extent it's rare for a holomem to keep character for so long even Laplus...
Problem is she said it's true for ALL streamers rather than just her style read: other holomem are not your friends either! She said more than she should that's for sure.

do people unironically see streamers as friends??? or believe they can somehow become friends?
unless you're a vtuber/working for cover or meet the chuuba irl you don't even have a slightest chance to have any significance as an individual person
your best bet is to join new homo gen and somehow make that chuuba interact with homos or just be a cute girl

>>49084162
That's the original meaning of "parasocial relationship" before the retards who only take the world relationship to mean intimate/romantic relationship fucked it up.

>>49082640
NTA but "My brother in christ" originated on Twitter and Reddit because they couldn't say "My nigga" like people here too. Same with normie and normalfag. But you knew that already so go back.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS PLEASE DO IT NOWWW

>>49083611
Bussin

>>49078461
I'm convinced half of the usual shitposting is made by /hlg/ anons

>>49078141
Because marine is the architect of her own unhappiness, but the flip side is that marine warns her simps about simping for women who are bad news.

>>49078296
No, it's because saying "you're not simps or friends but fans" is really that simple. No one needs a speech about how the anime watching nerd who sends superchats should hit the gym, get in shape, date a varbie and buy a mortgage in an up and coming neighborhood somewhere in North Carolina's college triangle cities.

>>49078374
What's funny about your post is that if it wasn't for covid shit this hobby wouldn't exist for 90% of the western fanbase since they never heard about Ai until she was past her prime and I would have been in Japan for the 2020 Olympics, at my physical and financial peak. Instead, we are in the bad timeline.

>>49085599
Im about to flip your world upside down: My nigger in christ

>>49078141
Look at the difference in wording. Marine says it in a way that sounds caring, like she's looking out for the wellbeing of the viewer. She's telling them to take care of themselves, because she can't do it for them.
Contrast that to what Fauna said and it's night and day. Either way, if your oshi is Kiara then you don't need to worry about either of these scenarios, because she's a sweetheart who cares for her fans.

>>49082640
Imagine being so insecure that you change the way you speak just so you can 'fit in' for like 30 minutes just to have to do it all over again, holy zozola

>>49087288
Fauna also sounds caring, in fact sounds more caring than Marine more honest "it's not my responsibility to make you happy".

>>49078034
I want to make Marine a mom.

>>49078034
What a fake ass whore. All of fantasy are garbage women

>>49082640
It's already leaked out, and it has become like "based", where people who have no idea of it's meaning or origins use it regularly. An entirely non-Christian group of my friends say "my brother in Christ" as an emphasis, because half of the joke is how none of them are Christian.

>>49079669
it doesn't have to be deflection, sometimes people shitpost for fun.

>>49085999
oof
Well you can still hit your financial peak.
Drop a $500 supa and tell your oshi that you became a millionaire. Maybe you'll get lucky.

>>49087986
There is shitposting for fun then there is conveniently a bunch of threads made about Fauna all saying the same thing and being allowed to be stay up while nijisanji coincidentally had drama happening at the same time.
Not saying all of the people were deflecting but it was pretty obvious a decent amount of it was staff and niji fans trying to hide the shit show unfolding.

off topic anyone has the picture of the sapling breastfeeding?

>>49078034
Sex with Marine

>>49088180
We have evolved, now people also shitpost so their ebin threads can be posted on twitters!

>>49078141
I don't need Sencho to be my friend I need to ejaculate inside her until she is pregnant

"STAY IN YOUR LANE"

>>49078374
This is staged

>>49078141
You meant the schizo nijisisters trying to deflect from their yabs spreading across the vtuber sphere.

What needed to happen was Fauna should have thanked the SC, made a light joke and then moved the fuck on like a professional would have. Why is this so fucking hard to do? She said it herself that she's just an entertainer. Then fucking act like it and don't waste time on armchair psychology rants. Sounds to me like she regretted how she answered and then didn't know how to walk it back so she just kept rambling.

>>49087994
You're a funny guy anon.

>>49088849
Because she's been wanting to say it for a while. She keeps getting SCs from parasocial teens asking for life advice.

>>49078383
>posting part 3 of 3
Pathetic, anon.

>>49088849
You think she came up with that 10 minute Ted talk on the fly. She's obviously had that prepared for a while and was just waiting for the opportunity to give it.

>>49078141
Because Nijiniggers are trying to use Fauna to make people forget/not care about the 1% thing

>>49079473
>she is just telling you to get a career that makes you happy or something
That's an oxymoron though because no job outside streaming can make you happy, and becoming a popular streamer is a crapshoot.

>>49088849
>Why is this so fucking hard to do? She said it herself that she's just an entertainer.

They aren't entertainers and certainly do not think of themselves as such. Good trained comedians for example do not ramble whenever someone in the audience says something they don't like. They prepare for such things in advance. The only one who actually tries to be professional in that way is Gura.

>>49091447
>Good trained comedians for example do not ramble whenever someone in the audience says something they don't like. They prepare for such things in advance.
Hecklers?

>>49079789
Not just them, teammates, kronies, whatever the fuck finana and elira fans are called are trying to get revenge for their oshis while also making it seem so common that it's not a big deal and actually their oshis didn't do anything wrong either.

>>49078374
This video is an Activision psyop to defame Apex fans.

>>49090837
She fell for a bait from Alexander Baitsky, seems pretty random to me and Fauna is pretty good at rambling in general it's not like she had to write a script for a rant like this.

>>49078374
but that would diminish their profits, Anon.

>>49079108
>I can't be happy without you, please be my wife
>Marine: You need to find your own happiness, don't rely on other

>can we be friends?
>Fauna: no, fuck off

Fauna will start doing kissy gfe asmr tomorrow to make up for this. Dont you worry fellas.

>>49098542
>Marine gets marriage proposals every stream, basks in the love and makes a cute little reply
>Western woman gets asked if they can be friends, gives condescending lecture about boundaries and how they dont consider you their equal
the funny thing is none of them will ever be even half as popular as Marine either

>>49078141
plz kys sister.
no1 cared, it wasn't the kronii POS play, nor Mori POS behavior

>>49079653
well said

>>49079653
actually this

>>49078574
My gosh you are right! It says "The Day of the Cope is at hand. All Nijinigs will hang themselves due to advanced cope."

Good find anon.

>>49085864
>buy a mortgage in an up and coming neighborhood somewhere in North Carolina's college triangle cities.
These people are ruining the South. Literally all are millennial, Dem voting normies.

>>49078034
>>49078141
The major difference here is the phrasing and framing between what Marine said and what Fauna said.

Fauna directly told saplings to stop and touch grass. She essentially shifted all the blame and resposibility of the parasocial relationship on to her fans.

Marine indirectly told her fans and framed it as a piece of advice. Ironically, This is literally how'd you talk to an actual friend who could be going through something and your not sure if their ready at the moment to talk about it and confront it so you don't be so direct to sour the mood. In the end she also acknowledge she has a part in the parasocial relationship and not just dumping all the blame on the fans.

>>49100716
She said nothing about parasocialism. She didn't disparage people who are parasocial. She just said, SPECIFICALLY, that the relationship between her and her audience is not that of friendship. But she did acknowledge there was a relationship between the two. There is no real name for it either. People are harping on the "friendship" part and ignoring literally everything else she said, for some unholy reason.

>>49100716
I love Marine. She is incredibly thoughtful and knows how to express herself.

>>49100787
Marine is based, Fauna is just another western woman. I don't fault that. But I do find fault with every woman who has acknowledged /here/ like she's cool af or some shit but then shows her knowledge of vtuber watchers is extremely shallow to the point of being like an alien trying to read hooman language without knowing the first thing about it. It's actually kind of baffling that there are women like Lia from phase connect who are here constantly and cannot empathize at all, even just "I'm glad I'm not schizo like those guys" and just straight up think dudes can walk into the club and get chicks hitting on them like that.

Like women physically cannot imagine, if the roles were reversed, that women do not buy drinks for men or ask them out most of the time, even thinking about her own experiences as a woman, Lia could not imagine a situation of herself going after a guy's dick, it's always just waiting for dick to come to Lia. Women have so little in the way of emotional intelligence that it might not exist at all.

>attacking Marine to defend Fauna
Yeah saplings are speedrunning becoming the most loathed and hated fanbase

>>49100787
He asked if they are friends or simps
she says a relationship exists but it isnt friends
that leaves one option based on the question asked, which YOU left out "for some unholy reason"

>An ichimi confesses that he can't be happy anymore without marine
>marine tells the ichimis that they have to find their own happiness, and just add her to that

vs

>A western woman responding to backlash after fauning after another youtuber

Come on sapkeks.

>>49101373
Good thing she didn't read it out loud and just acknowledged the friend part meaning anything else is baseless conjecture

Marine isn't your whores shield
EN was a mistake

>>49078258
You are grown man, why you need someone telling you things softly???

>>49101527
that's even more pathetic cope than the unicorns, simpling

Disgusting ENshits, don't use talented people as a shield because your mommy had a mental breakdown

You know what the retarded part is about all this? The SC who spawned this dumb bullshit (you guys, not her) was from a confirmed-/here/ unabashed shitstirrer who has wasted hundreds of dollars sending schizofaggotry to other ENs
Pretty sure multiple holos have banned him. Why are we pretending to care about this

>>49078258
>the anime girl hurt his feelings

>>49101409
The most disingenuous comparison ever and the sapplings know it too.

>>49101622
Unironically sometimes yes. And the idea that we shouldn't consider the emotional sensitivity of normal men is what caused the sudden rise of turbo trannies and unhinged schizos in the first place.

>>49101770
everyone knows it was bait, doesnt change the fact she bit down on it as hard as she could

>>49078034
Marine shows concern for viewer’s welfare, slipping in reality without triggering defensiveness, in addition to drawing necessary boundaries. It’s not even in the same league, never knew she said this but she’s a pro

>>49100787
The relationship between Fauna and her fans is that of an idol and her fans, although she'd probably say streamer. That's not friendship and can never be friendship. If anything, it's better.

Why are Saplings deflecting to Marine?

>>49102241
Difference between a professional idol and western e-thot.

>>49078141
Almost as if it's inorganic or something.

>>49102241
She wasn’t drawing boundaries. She answered to a dude who pretty much told her she was his everything saying “it’s not good for you to concentrate your entire existence and reason to live into one single person”. She never disregarded those feelings at all. She pretty much said “it’s good you love me but please take care of yourself”.
Marine never disregard her regular fans and her gachis, she adores them.

>>49104457
why are you even trying to reason to people who didn't even watch the clip

Saplings deserve everything coming to them for being the most fucking deranged fanbase on this board

>>49078034
>Holo vs holo
I hope you die in a car crash nijinigger

>>49102114
Wonder if she was already angry about how some people reacted to that Rubber Ross stuff the other day so dude caught her at just the right mood to trigger this rant.

>>49109397
she probably talked to Kronii about that who wormtongued this idea into her head

>>49078034
One day they will all graduate its a sad fact of life your oshi just wants you to be able to find happiness on your own although knowing the schizos here they will just latch on to whatever resembles their oshi

>>49103686
You wouldn't know the difference if it hit you in the face

>>49109497
>mention of Kronii unpromtly
Rent free

>>49082384
Stay in your virgin lane you friendless loser.

>>49078141
>>49078034
This is a shit clip without the context. She used to be parasocial for some reason and ended up losing herself. The core context is that "I will never do it again and you shouldn't be like me either". She had talked about it a few times.

>JP only guys! I swear!
If you knew Japanese you'd react the same way. You can learn it but you'll never be a nip.

>>49109497
Kronii isn't Mori

I've never watched Ina. Are the posts about her hating her fans true, or is it some meme I'm unaware of? I'm looking to switch to someone who will appreciate her fans.

>>49111174
same mind virus

This thread is like a support group of weak retarded women. Kek

>>49111608
Kiara is the only truly parasocial holo EN member, other than perhaps Gura if you accept constant ghosting. In general Myth was always more open to their fans than Council.

>>49080253
Funny that you post a screenshot from an anime about parasocial online relationships.

sigh the 1% of viewers being dramawhores

>>49111608
Ina has major issues with her outfit and used to be a greyname reader that would mostly ignore chat messages from her own members.

>>49113125
She literally didn't want them to give her money

>let me real
>while using a anime avatar and while also putting on a fake voice
If she was truly being real she would drop the voice and not use her avatar

>>49078374
>what will you do when your oshi graduates?
My oshi already graduated and I'm still coping 679 days later.
The whole first year was total torture and I felt like I was dead. For a brief moment, I wanted to kill myself. Only now I'm really coping.
All I have now is the memories, and I cherish them because I will never find a girl so well mannered, girly and weird like Lulu ever again.

>>49078141
PARASOCIAL FUCKS
IMPROVE YOURSELVES
DON'T YOU HAVE ANY FEMALE FRIENDS
I'M NOT YOUR FRIEND
WE CAN'T BE FRIENDS, WE SHOULD NOT BE FRIENDS

>>49104457
>She pretty much said “it’s good you love me but please take care of yourself”.
This. Fauna should take notes instead of saying shit like:
>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

>>49078258
Kys snowflake.

>>49078762
you simplings do the same thing to everyone else
now that it's your oshi you get like this lmao
>no, she's different!

>>49113449
I somewhat believe that but Ina does have $15/$25 membership tiers and she used to bait for superchats with the Tako donation jar.

>>49079223
You don't speak japanese
>>49079872
You don't speak japanese
>>49087288
You don't speak japanese

>>49087288
>Marine says it in a way that sounds caring, like she's looking out for the wellbeing of the viewer. She's telling them to take care of themselves, because she can't do it for them.
100% this. Fauna meanwhile shits on her fans with stuff like:
>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

Dramafags and Nijiniggers should've kiss each other passionately.
fucking waste of time reading this shit.

>>49114217
Cry harder

>>49078258
t. guy who doesn't speak Japanese reading a fucking translation

>>49115767
>tells her fans to take care of themselves
>this is seen as a bad thing

>>49078034
>>49078141

I DIDN'T ask for her to be present at all times to hand hold me through life constantly. ALL I asked was not to break kayfabe. That's it. The whole thing was uncalled for. I just wanted to watch the funny picture move with a cute voice.

>>49118130
No, I just said, Marine was very caring and reasonable in her comment telling her fans to take care of themselves. It's Fauna who shat on her fans.

>>49078141
what did fauna say?

>>49078374
>what will you do when your oshi graduates?
I will still listen to her covers, songs, albums and wish her the best in life. I will continue my life and miss her but enjoy that it happened

>>49119097
Your a fucking idiot if you get offended by someone saying you should put yourself first

>>49078141
shitskins can't understand nor cares about JPs

>>49078374
motherfucker delete this right now

>>49078374
Tell me how to live my life one more time, faggot. And I'll find you and like all your fuckin forks. I'm not gonna warn you again.

>>49078034
Because 2 different situations with two different answers.

And also the
>parasocial bad
is just hypocritical and also shows you have no idea what words mean.

>>49078034
>>49078141
It's funny how the ALL of the EN girls, regardless if it's holo or niji, can't warn men without shaming them. It's like it's ingrained in their culture.

>JP
>Fubuki: Friends! We're friends!
>Marine: You're all perverts. But please take care of yourselves.
>Nene: You're all my husbands. Wait, you thought I was joking?

>Meanwhile EN
>Ina: Imagine watching anime girls on your weekend
>Kronii: You don't have any female friends? lmao internally
>Finana: Parasocial fucks
>Fauna: I'm not your friend

>>49122560
You fags are always biased towards JPs.
Fauna said it the same way Marine did, but yet you didn't include this.

>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

>>49122667
And here I will just flip your stupid argument and say that I couldn't include what JP did NOT say. You see the difference? There's no need to sugarcoat your words when you're not shaming your audience to begin with.

>>49123047
Telling someone to take care of themselves is not shaming them

I don't think western women can entertain male audiences without being a rich celeb or a whore. They suck at entertainment anyway. Japanese women can even make decent shonen manga but I never heard of such a western woman.

>>49079653
Would be funny and peak clipping material if Fauna replied to that supacha by singing You're My Friend from Naruto

>>49123193
you should take better care of your personal hygiene

>>49078034
>>49078141
wait, I thought the people who are angry about this are just shitposting

you guys are really angry?

>>49124468
It was a mistake to think idol culture could be brought to the West. Or not even idols, there's a reason why we don't have Maid Cafes.

>>49078141
incels dont watch the jps

>>49125878
I'm furious

>>49085864
Please stop fucking moving here

>>49104457
Except she is, literally defining and suggesting what should be is negotiating and drawing boundaries thus defining the relationship. Although she obviously did it in a indirect and soft manner. She welcomes gachis but at the same time she expressed it’s not good for them nor could she handle the full responsibility, giving hints for people to reconsider although it will definitely fall on deaf autist ears

>>49131640
You're hella coping bruh.

>>49078076
based

>>49122386
It seems like you don't either

>>49125878
You underestimate how sensitive this board is

>>49122560
pretty sure Kronii's was out of ignorance, not malice, otherwise she wouldn't have bothered to argue it with commenters.

>>49131725
you are a literal retard and can’t understand nuances, keep coping

>>49122560
>Elira said it first, you're not scrubbing that from history

> /vt/ accept moral and well-meaning message as long as it was spoken softly
In fairness, that's how it works IRL too. But of course the salty response to harsh word is disproportionately unrealistic.

>>49125878
It's nijiniggers wanting 2% to go away and people that let the nijiniggers get under their skin, along with your usual crab in a bucket shit. No homos or actual goslings were involved with this forced, artificial yab, Fauna took a question at face value made in bad faith by a Henri/Gabe tier ex-Kronie fuck, said a bunch of words like a nerd THEN over explained herself into saying the quiet part out loud. The people who are actual members, I feel for them a bit. They knew but Fauna was jebaited into saying don't think about the pink elephant and now you can't unring the bell.

>>49078034
based?

>>49079151
>Western woman
What else did you expect?

>>49078374
and exactly who'd want to be reminded of that while you're currently living in the moment, enjoying watching your currently active chuuba
what kind of end goal you want if everyone were to be super aware of this fact all the time, for all of them to go "yeah whats the point of watching them they'll be gone eventually anyway"? and for the industry to be no more? i dont get it
when you're a vtuber using a two dimensional avatar/anime avatar you're selling fantasy, thats what you're supposed to stick with instead of keep reminding people about reality

>>49079303
Your forced meme will never take off Nijidrone.

>>49082339
why & how did you end up here?

>>49078141
she said it before this board was created.

>>49100787
Yeah there is a word for it and its being fucking parasocial. Streamers, specially vtubers, should be REAL with themself and admit that their hustle runs on parasocialism.

>>49125878
Seething even

Improve upon yourself to the fullest, get into some new hobbies, go to the gym.
Do it for your oshi

>>49119097
How the fuck, did you interpret Fauna's message as "shitting on her fans"
Really, she didn't say anything bad, she wasn't demeaning, or insulting, she didn't change her tone to annoyed, if anything, she sounded caring