/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Is it confirmed to be her? Idk

>>49072406
Pretty much

>>49072260
I'll probably anti (or well "anti" as in not watch at all) but draw fanart if its her or whoever it is.

>>49072406
Just look at that character design, if that aint her then it's a miscast

>>49072260
i will watch her and superchat and buy all her merch

>Given a Panty & Stocking style character that everyone will call a Gyari knockoff
If it's really Pika both her and Vshojo are dumb as shit. I'd put an entire paycheck down on her taking a break two weeks in due to harassment.

>>49072260
Please... she can't be Pika, seriously Vshojo of all companies?

The person behind Pikamee is joining, but it’s not Pikamee. No one can replace Pikamee for me. I’ll still give her a shot and see if it clicks.

>>49073040
That's not her final design, though.

>>49072406
Confirmed bilingual JP and Vshojo only hires popular enough people so

>>49072260

The model looks like total shit.uts worse than the godzilla abomination. 82sxv

>>49072406
Evidence it's her
>Aesthetic that fits
>Primarily purple, Pika's favorite color
>Background of what looks to be her "streaming room" has both American and Japanese food on it. Including a donut, which Pikamee also loves.
>Background also features both Twitch and YT logos while Pika streamed on both
>Mouse confirmed it's a new member
>Kson said the new member is on the JP side
>Kson also said new member is bilingual
There's also some other circumstantial things. Like this character's gimmick being a huge IQ, while Pikamee supposedly had a 5 trillion IQ. The character's flat chested while the boing boing bit was always a thing with Pika. And the obvious stuff like her not being able to continue being Pika outside of VOMS so she has to create a new identity, Pika being an established name that would get a big reaction from viewers and an obvious target for VShojo, and the inherent value that a bilingual talent would provide VShojo who is trying to branch into the JP market while having formed in the EN side.

Basically it's been obvious from day 1 that it was her and the evidence only continues to stack.

>>49076831
What's the fucking point of creating a new identity if they're just going to make the new identity Great Value Pikamee?
She's not going to last a month in this company once people catch wind.

>>49076965
>What's the point of creating a new identity
GYARI owns Pikamee the character so she literally has to create a new one? VShojo also doesn't own the characters so this is a design Pikamee herself created and approved of.

>>49072260
I never watched her before. Why would I watch her now that she's been sent to the glue factory?

FUCK YOU KSON YOU FUCKING WHORE

>>49076965
anon, is your brain working? Reincarnating is not a trick, she's not seriously trying to make you think she's not Pikamee. The "point" of making a new identity is that she couldn't take Pikamee with her. She didn't join Vshojo as part of some fucking witness protection program, she did it to further her career and do things she couldn't do at VOMS.

Why would she graduate just to join Vshojo? She seemed pretty much free to do what she wanted at VOMS anyway, including collabs with Vshojo members.

>>49072260
>Will you watch pikamee now that she's joining Vshojo?
No.
>Or will you anti her because it's Vshojo?
No.
I'll just ignore her. What a retarded move from her, abandoning everything to join a sinking ship full of people who hate her just because a retard invited her, and all she gets is a Powerpuff Girls model out of it?
Huh, enjoy your "talent freedom" I guess. At least you can be an indie in one year.

>>49077202
Shame she's going to learn real quick she doesn't want that audience.

>>49077213
>Why would she graduate just to join Vshojo? She seemed pretty much free to do what she wanted at VOMS anyway, including collabs with Vshojo members.
There were lots of things she couldn't do at VOMS, that she talked about every other day during her last month before graduation. Every single person who asks this question just outs themselves as a retard who never watched her in the first place.

>>49077213
she kept mentioning how she wanted to do things but couldn't every other stream during her last month
she just out grew VOMs and left on good terms

>>49077213
She was free to do whatever she liked, but there was always the issue of her wanting to do more, so having an actual corpo to handle that makes sense for her.

Also, she DEFINITELY wanted more control over her model, and this gives her complete control from the ground up, rather than a character that was designed long before she was even chosen for the part. (The other VOMS were actually tailor made to the person)

>>49077337
Kson also had a collab with GYARI himself and VOMS like a week ago. It's about as clean a break as you can get and I wouldn't be surprised if GYARI wasn't a little relieved to have Pikamee taken off his hands since she'd far outgrown what he was capable of and prepared to do with his side project.

>>49077728
Yeah, people keep thinking that VOMS is like a Corpo, rather than a loosely affiliated group of indies with a shared creator. GYARI didn't even take a cut of SC/stream income.

>>49072260
I'll probably anti her, I'm not quite decided yet. I'll see how I feel at the time.

If she ever streams on YouTube or Chaturbate I might watch her.

>>49078961
she'll stream on youtube and twitch just like old pika

>>49072406
Nothing has been confirmed.
At this point the people who are the least invested in the Pikamee rrat the certain winners:

If it's her?
We get to watch a quarter of /vt/ have a meltdown, and convince themselves they won't watch this reincarnation because it's not the same.

If it isn't her?
The quarter that are absolutely convinced it is her will be BTFO (though I would feel a little bad for the few actual pika fans who let themselves have hope).

>>49076560
That's not the actual model, you absolute mongoloid. That's just for the animation.

>>49079017
Then I'll put her VODs on when I go to bed sometimes just like old Pika

>>49079796
I hope it's her because I'm an accelerationist and enjoy seeing these girls destroy vtubing for their short-term gains

>>49072260
Meh, I'll just pretend she doesn't exist.

>>49072260
Massive shit move if true. Not only would it confirm that she wasn't harassed into quitting, but she actually decided to throw a massive brand away on her own just to join whore central.

>>49080931
>she wasn't harassed into quitting
anyone who actually watched pikamee was saying this for weeks but no one listened
>massive brand
VOMs is tiny and run buy 1(one) guy who does music and one day decided that he wanted to make cute characters as a hobby

>>49076831
Pomu, cut down on your copium.

>>49082440
ok

>>49076831
>Abandons her hugely succesful persona just to join another corpo
What a fucking dick move leaving VOMS to rot alone when she was the pillar that sustained it. I really hope it's not her.

>>49083865
VOMS is a hobby project, one she's not even banned from collabing with since it's not even a corpo. It's just a fucking dude. Literally the only stipulation of being in VOMS is GYARI keeps the characters.

>>49072260
If it is her I'll probably watch her now and again, which is what I did anyway.
>but vshojo!
Don't really care. Gunrun is a retard and there's a few talents I really don't like, but it doesn't really impact my view of an individual streamer.

Twitter People are still going after Pikamee over a month after she graduated. Vshojo will support her and help her deal with the inevitable harrasement when they find out it's her, right?

>>49081262
and let's be real, the MASSIVE BRAND was basically Pikamee in the vtubing space. (Though GYARI himself is a well known vocaloid-P)

>>49080209
>"I'm an accelerationist"
>Retard who derives joy from gossiping about women pretending to be anime girls on a bhutanese mudwrestling bbs
fits

So whens this potential pika debuting anyway, I don't really keep up with vshojo news

>>49084697
not set date yet
other than "soon"

>>49084287
Literally the only thing I'm worried about.

>>49084697
A new episode of her debut special plays at 11PM est on the Vshojo Twitter

>>49072260
Yes

If its pika then is gonna have the nazuna effect where most wont watch her because its not the same.

>>49076965
Yeah, IQ should have designed a tall, oneesan type character, with huge tits, a bit fat ass, and a face like a Jo Jo character. That would totally fit the person behind it (if they are who we think she is).

>>49089579
It'll be fine as long as she actually streams on youtube.

>>49089579
Well, keep in mind Nazuna is a nutjob who is also basically banned from collabing with any of her prior corpo-mates. Pika can still collab with VOMS without issue, and she was basically an indie. Not the same situation at all.

The thing I don't like about Vshojo JP is that their entire marketing push relies heavily on "We have [Famous vtuber]".
Can vshojo JP really not get a single high-quality Literal Who talent and has to rely exclusively on picking up the scraps of other groups? It's off-putting.

>>49090130
signing on people who are already popular has always been their model, though

>>49089937
It is not the same tough. Is like having you old time frame bob coming back home and he is asking you to call him alex now. Is similar to coco to kson people will leave because something changed. And even if she did the keetle laugh it will still not feel the same

>>49090130
Very, very few major corpo vtubers are literal whos dredged up from the depths of nothing.

>>49090736
I'm glad he's not Time Frame Bob anymore. It was a pain in the ass. He was always like "I'll be there between 2:30 and 5:00 PM." If "Alex" is what it takes to be rid of Time Frame Bob then so be it.

>>49090851
Most of /vt/ wasn't around to remember how every debut, the thread on /jp/ would scramble to try and figure out which existing streamer (or other personality) was behind the new chuuba.
They may not even know that half of Hololive's 3rd, 4th, 5th, and Myth were not "Literal Who"s at all.

>>49089856
It'll probably be YouTube and Twitch like before

>>49072260
Joining the company with one of the very people who enabled twitter freaks makes me lose all respect for her.

>>49089579
people hate the shit out of her new models lmao
if this new persona is cute and cartoony then people will love it

>>49092744
>pretending you gave a shit in the first place

>>49082684
even for such a simple design, it still feels like it has a little too much going on. Classic Pikamee was quite literally the ideal for someone like her, it fit her perfectly and was such a basic design but was immediately recognizable.

>>49089856
>as long as she actually streams on youtube
Nazuna isn't allowed to stream on Youtube, what makes you think Purplemee will?

>>49093062
Nazuna can't stream on Youtube because she's a retard, Pikamee literally had to be stopped before she made the same mistake by a twitch staff member who told her she wouldn't be able to stream on YT if she partnered.

>kson manages to convince Pikamee to drop her entire legacy in order to become a cartoony pngtuber in a dying corp full of people who hate her
How does she do it?

>>49093155
>pngtuber
where are you getting pngtuber from?

>>49072260
I hope so. Vshojo stalling out and losing 3 people so fast is probably FUDding her expectations.

>>49093155
>legacy
You know when you use terms like this, you expose yourself.

>>49072260
If she joins vshojo and stays on Twitch after everything I don't think I could honestly keep supporting her vtubing career

>>49093151
Kson is also partnered and can stream on both
Also that restriction for streaming on YouTube for Twitch partners was lifted back in September

>>49093151
Twitch partners have been allowed to stream on Youtube for a good while now.

>>49092947
I liked Pikamee, I still sometimes think to myself "I'M THE FUCKING TIRED" and laugh. Seeing the way she went out also annoys the hell out of me considering how long she's been active. I also lose interest in big vtubers who tug on people's heartstrings for their graduation only to pop up in another company a few weeks later, it retroactively makes their final moments as well as their time as the version people loved seem fake. Sure it must be nice for the most hardcore of fans to see them back, but I feel like it's indicative of the way they view the community they built and the persona they maintained if they're so quick to move on.

>>49093315
He's not wrong though, Pikamee had a fundamental role in spreading vtubers overseas.

>>49093510
That's more on you for ascribing malice to a common and generally benign action of putting a persona to rest when you're moving on. Pikamee literally couldn't take the persona with her, so she put a huge part of her life to rest. Nobody else views vtuber graduations in the way you do, at least nobody sane.

>>49093767
I'd be fine with it if I felt like she had a real reason to leave VOMS, like actual black company shit, but from my perspective, she didn't have a reason to leave. Therefore, her leaving and doing this just makes it seem like her time as Pikamee and her final moments as her weren't genuine. I also view kson the same way, I wouldn't have a problem with her as kson and as part of vshojo if she didn't make her departure from hololive this giant spectacle with every fucking person in the company coming in and crying over her and talking about how amazing she is and how the world is an objectively worse place without her, because her just coming back to the kson account a few days later invalidated all of it.

>>49094842
>>49077330

>>49077330
>>49094934
so say the reasons. Deflecting with "just watch her stuff" isn't a response.

>>49094842
The reason to leave VOMS is because they aren't a company. They don't provide any assistance or support for any of the larger projects she wants to do, and most of the stuff Pika got done was through her doing it herself (Isekai Pikamee was a commission, her VR3D was made by a fans, and so forth), no matter what you think of VShojo as a company, they absolutely offer things VOMS cannot, as again she's basically an indie that didn't actually own the rights to her character.

I'm not happy about the fact that she's joining this shitty company and I despise Kson for convincing her, but I'll support her regardless. At the end of the day it's the person behind the character who I care about. If she's still the same (why wouldn't she be? it's not like she will change her personality to fit the new model) I'll be happy. No matter what she looks like, I will always look at her as being Pikamee

>>49093510
>I also lose interest in big vtubers who tug on people's heartstrings for their graduation only to pop up in another company a few weeks later, it retroactively makes their final moments as well as their time as the version people loved seem fake.
People will think you're baiting but I understand your point of view. No doubt many people will see it that way, and antis will use it as a shitpost angle.

>>49097170
DESU Pika didn't really milk it too much, she didn't even cry during her last stream, which is saying a lot for a crybaby like Pika.

>>49084287
>Vshojo will support her and help her deal with the inevitable harrasement when they find out it's her, right?
>they throw her under the bus like they did with silver

>>49097383
Yeah, Pika had the least emotional graduation of all time, which she literally ended by saying "see you later" repeatedly. Even during the month leading up to graduation she was constantly saying stuff like "don't be sad" and "it's not goodbye"

If you were too dense to pick up on all the clues she was laying down, that's on you.

>>49095277
>(Isekai Pikamee was a commission, her VR3D was made by a fans, and so forth)
this is literally the same with VShojo though, pretty much all the alternate outfits the members have, and 3D models were commissioned by the members themselves and not the company.

>>49094842
>because her just coming back to the kson account a few days later invalidated all of it.
She was gone for like a month, retard

>>49073454
>retards think the promo/lore video will mean the actual style of the avatar

>>49098142
Oh, knowing that idiot she could have just joined because muh kson, the point being that VOMS isn't a company that was providing any support beyond "Here's a model, go nuts"

>>49098227
you realize how short of a timeframe that still is, right?

>>49098382
>Noooooo, you can't just go back to work at a different job!
>you need to vanish from the world for a year and abandon your income and devoted fans, otherwise schizos will feel it's inappropriate!

>>49098370
There is barely a reason to join Vshojo at all, like sure they offer freedom, but they don’t offer support for talents at all, like if someone happens to a vtuber in their company they are basically screwed.

>>49098649
Again, it's not the fact that she returned at all, it's the fact that she made a big spectacle out of her departure with every person in the company crying over her and treating this as the darkest day in the industry and how the world will never recover from her leaving only for it to turn out that she was planning on coming back, doing the exact same content with a model by the same artist so shortly after. It makes the decision to have such a big sendoff, making all the people in the company cry over her, seem less important and fake.

>>49098865
I have no idea what Vshojo is offering her, the point is VOMS doesn't outside of it's 100% cut of stream income, but 0% (officially) of the merch income.

>>49099719
She was begging the other holomem the entire month to stop crying and literally everybody knew she was going to go back to being kson

>>49082684
I like the design and if it really is Pikamee then I wonder though if she will keep the cartoony look or if she will get a model closer to her Isekai Pikamee.

>>49099904
Maybe she'll go full PSG and have a cartoon version and a sexy version.

>>49100109
>pika
>sexy
name a bigger oxymoron

>>49099719
>Again, it's not the fact that she returned at all, it's the fact that she made a big spectacle out of her departure with every person in the company crying over her and treating this as the darkest day in the industry and how the world will never recover from her leaving only for it to turn out that she was planning on coming back, doing the exact same content with a model by the same artist so shortly after. It makes the decision to have such a big sendoff, making all the people in the company cry over her, seem less important and fake.
Idiocy. Pure diluted idiocy. What, you think she forced her co-workers to cry over her, somehow that's her responsibility? It was wrong of her to make an effort to say goodbye properly, because it didn't feel final enough to you after the deliberately placed corporate haze obscuring her simply quitting a job as some kind of magical event finally faded?

As for coming back with a new model, yeah no shit. Literally everyone with an IQ about 70 knew that was going to happen. She couldn't talk about it as Coco, LITERALLY COULD NOT because that's how corpos like Hololive work, she can't say anything about going Indie or her real life plans except in the vaguest possible terms because the fact that she was Coco at all is still under fucking NDA to this very fucking day.

Yes, Graduations are stupid. I think so, Kson herself more than anyone fucking hates graduations with the heat of a thousand suns, but the fact that they continue to exist is never, in the slightest degree the fault of the talents that just want to get out of a shitty job and move on. If you hate graduations so much, place the blame where it deserves to be placed, with greedy corporations that are trying to use IP control as a lever to try and pressure employees into never leaving them. It's a stupid system and the sooner it dies, the better.

>>49100248
>What, you think she forced her co-workers to cry over her, somehow that's her responsibility? It was wrong of her to make an effort to say goodbye properly, because it didn't feel final enough to you after the deliberately placed corporate haze obscuring her simply quitting a job as some kind of magical event finally faded?
I feel like having an entire hour of your final stream dedicated to having every member, one by one say nice things about you and talk about how upset they are to see you leave is intentionally trying to force a sad reaction, yes.

>>49099773
The only thing I've heard she specifically complained about not being able to do at VOMS was to have a concert of some kind and if nothing else they can make sure that happens. There's also the inherent advantages that being indie would offer. She wouldn't be beholden to GYARI for new outfits she can just commission them anytime she likes. She can get entirely new models anytime she wants, and none of it would be a "waste" of money because it all goes to further her own personal brand with a character she owns.

>>49100887
She also wanted to do conventions, which apparently Gyari would not allow under any circumstances.

>>49100965
Did she mean in person or just appearing virtually? The former I can understand even if I don't agree with it, but the latter just sounds silly.

>>49100356
>I feel like having an entire hour of your final stream dedicated to having every member, one by one say nice things about you and talk about how upset they are to see you leave is intentionally trying to force a sad reaction, yes.
This is a standard so stupid and arbitrary that it boils down to you just not liking the person and desperately clawing for anything you can pin on them. No vtuber alive could live up to a standard this nitpicky and absurd.

>>49101001
Well for the latter, Gyari would have to actually do something to make it possible, but as far as I know it was a blanket no.

>>49077296
The audience that a big chunk of is people who are happy to watch her no matter the 'corpo' she's in (and without the ones that do)? Yeah, shame
You stick with the tribalism and I'll keep watching the streamers I already know I like

>>49100109
God I hope so.

>>49100190
It would be DELICIOUS gap moe.

>>49101391
>I'll keep watching the streamers I already know I like
Based.

>>49101392
Pika is definitely a pervert albeit not an open one. I do wonder about her true power level...

>>49072260
>OR are you going to pretend that you used to watch her and you're dropping her now because she joined vshojo?

pretty much. the vshojo name is kinda tainted now outside of twitch fag circles.

>>49094842
That's just how women are, its like that in normal workplaces. Someone leaves and there's a big going away party where people cry but 99% of them don't actually care.

>>49101072
if her intention was to make people not sad over her leaving, then why do something that would very obviously cause a sad reaction

>>49076831
call me a bitch ass fagot. i don't care. i just want to see her happy.

>>49072260
>innocent tea kettle gets harassed over wizard game, making fans lose a few months of her streams
>made people cry and be angry over the graduation because to a lot of people this wasn't fair on her
>Many years of content are down the drain as her channels get deleted
>falls for kson's bullshit and joins the TALENT FREEDOM company thinking everyone will be happy with her decision
>company has lost a lot of vtubers recently
>company still has Froot who harassed Silvervale out of the company
>VSHOJO DOES NOT PROTECT THEIR TALENT AGAINST HARASSMENT
I'm just angry that kson tricks someone to leave their comfy career and join them in vshitshow
If she felt she overgrew VOMS she should have tried to get the model and rights from Gyari, or at least the isekai model. She doesn't need vshitshow and this will be another Rushia -someone who regrets joining as soon as they realise how bad it is
I like the PSG art. But I don't like this fucking company. It's desperation at its finest. A company finally being exposed for its wrongdoing is pulling out the tea kettle card to try and get people to still watch them.

Watch my words, Pikamee WILL regret vshojo. If she thought the wizard game hate was bad, she hasn't met the vshojo antis yet. And just because Nyanners and Veibae are gone doesn't mean the company is now suddenly likable -Froot is still part of it and the corpo as a whole has been responsible for ruining western vtubing and pushing people to get excessive model changes and have them act more whorish so they can orbit the company and eventually join them.....maybe.

People haven't forgot about the scam auditions, or the trash talking, or Froot wanting to donate to a charity and doesn't make good on her word.

>>49077728
Watch as Gyari draws the new character and posts it up on twitter in an attempt to get the fence sitters to back the new character. Because there will be a lot of people upset about this, ESPECIALLY because it's vshojo. Pikamee deserves so much better than this shitty company.

>>49105913
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/dVGACX8MtL-p8YxxMG5oFA/
get a fucking life nigga. jesus

>>49105913
>If she thought the wizard game hate was bad, she hasn't met the vshojo antis yet.
Oh no, not the seething ESL teenagers from SEA posting incomprehensible gibberish on twitter, how will anyone recover?

>>49105913
>Watch my words, Pikamee WILL regret vshojo.
Then she would not be the first JP vtuber to regret joining Vshojo.

>>49097383
beeg desu

INB4 it's not pikamee

>>49072260
Ill try to watch her for a while but eventually get sick of her talking and interacting with other vshojo members reminding me that they exist and eventually drop her the same as i did with kson and Nazuna

>>49072260
It's not Pika fuck off.

If it is Pika, then all I can say is-Kson I am dissappoint

>>49084287
>Vshojo will support her and help her deal with the inevitable harrasement when they find out it's her, right?
lol
lmao

>>49107076
why are you lying?

>>49090230
And it's a very shitty model. You can't catch lightning in a bottle twice.

>>49100190
I kind of want to see pika trying to be sexy

>>49107773
When some anons really, really hate a thing, they pretend to be a "fan" who eventually decided they hated said thing after a time. It makes their regular, pedestrian hatred seem more genuine and meaningful when clothed in the opinion of a former "fan".

Model reminds me of someone.

>>49108021
jellyfish...

>>49108021
They did the fusion dance.

>>49072260
watching Vwhorjo in 2023. Yeah, sure buddy

>>49072260
>Will you watch pikamee-
Yes.

>>49072260
It’s not pikamee
Cope and seethe vshojo fags

It's Pikamee
Cope and seethe nonbelievers

>>49072406
almost

>>49072260
Another JP victim of Kson's lies

I come to /vt/ exclusively to shit up the threads. of course im going to pretend I watched her and drop her when she debuts.

>>49072260
I come to /vt/ to shit up the threads. of course im going to pretend I watched her and drop her when she debuts

>>49116561
>>49116754
huh

>>49116825
I'm retarded ok I tried posting shondo monkey but it said i couldn't post because it was a duplicate file so then I posted the other one but quoted op

>>49077202
>do things she couldn't do at VOMS.
yeah! Like play hogwarts lega- oh... oh no....

she better have big tits

Her new name will be Henya. Please refer to her as that going forward.

>>49072260
Will she look like that with elephantiasis?? What kind of character design is this it's disgusting.

>>49118913

>>49118913
Probably not, it's just the design for the animation

>>49072260
I took Pikamee for granted when she was in VOMS.
I wont make the same mistake. So yes, I will be watching her.

>>49073454
Pikamee's break wasn't due to ""harassment"" in the first place. It was just bad timing since she was planning to quit and join VSJ, but /pol/tards seized on the opportunity to stir up drama.

>>49117202
Retard

>>49073454
>Given
If she goes with that style she chose it herself, vshojo doesn't give them models, they do it themselves, pay for it and own the IP

>>49077202
You have to realize that you're dealing with Holobronies here. Their loyalty is more to the corpo than the streamer. To them a VTuber doesn't exist unless she's in Hololive and ceases to exist after she leaves.

>>49072260
This model is disgusting

>>49072260
I didn't watch her before, why would I watch her now?

>>49073637
>brain on corpo