/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

CAN WE GO EVEN LOWER?

>>49034540
are they allowed to say this tho?
Incoming another break?

>>49034540
uohh numbers

>>49034540
>it's a joke haha

kek what a blacked company

>>49035287
>blacked

>>49035191
>ha..haha...*sweats profusely*

>>49035287
>>49035352

If he had to pay 20k on taxes doesn't that mean he's making around 100k off streaming alone? he makes enough that he bough a house with fuyo money on his first year and still complains, mental

>he said it 5 months ago
>everyone thought it was a joke
Reality is stranger than fiction

Company doesn't pay for debut.
Company doesn't pay for lore.
Company doesn't pay for audio recording.
Company keeps 97%+ of merch profit.
Company stifles vtuber revenue with privatization and suspensions when managers fail to manage.
Ouch.

>>49034540
Make sure to rip this/clip it, there's a non-zero chance they'll try to edit this out or private vods to damage control.

>but that's scummy/would they really care that much
Yes and yes.

>>49036321
How did you conclude that he gets 100k with 20k taxes? he already said that his taxes added up on that particular time.
which means his tax normally is in the 10k range, and also considering that his taxes at his country is 30-40%. He gets way less.

He got that house in his first yr at his luxiem peak, I doubt he'll get the same nowadays.

>>49036321
taxes for freelancers/contract workers is even more brutal than that. there are probably no livers classified as employees

>>49034540
This guy is about to get dog dogpiled on by both his branchmates and the sisters, isn't he... I'm almost starting to feel bad for you Mysterio...

>>49035033
He got a "vacation" after this

>>49034540
ahahahhaAhahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>49036488
I think because it seemed so absurd people thought he was either joking, exaggerating, or was specific to him since no one else mentioned it

>>49034540
So, how much is he earning based on that?

I guess he'll be taking a 2-week "vacation" soon?

Mysta status?

>>49037228
fucking this retards keep linking to youtube shit that can easily be edited out in the future

>>49035287
BLACKEDsanji

>>49038231
2 week vacation in his house

>>49034540
Mysterio my beloved

>>49034540
What does the second link have to do with the 1%?

>>49039286
that's he's a broke bitch because niji keeps their talent in poverty

>>49037767
Only a few girls here actually watch him and they probably did think he was joking. It's such a seemingly unrealistic number people would write it off as hyperbole. The real eye-opener was Pomu ranking mech dead last in terms of what the talents get, below SCs which is 33%. A lot of people here watch Pomu so it spread instantly.

>>49034540
He's probably exaggerating to be funny, but the fact that he dismisses his merchandise so much probably means his share is pretty small. Possibly smaller than superchat/membership shares since he makes it a point to mock the merch but nothing else.

>>49034540
>1%
Hahahahahaha

>>49038231

>>49036321
Noted, though, that he bought a house for his mom in PH, not UK - that can lead to big difference in price.
100k-200k / year is definitely not enough to buy a proper house in UK within 1-2 years of working unless you are getting one in the mountain or something

>>49041616
The tone of his voice when he said “I’ve been scammed” really did not make it sound like he was kidding, he sounded genuinely dejected.
Mysta is pretty menhera too, he’s not exactly the best at hiding things. It felt more like he turned it into a joke after someone said “Are you allowed to say things like that?”

>>49041616
Both Kuzuha and Pomu have also said they barely get anything from merch, Nijicope harder.

>>49044071
>Nijicope harder
You should improve your reading comprehension if you think I'm trying to defend Nijisanji.

Is this the vtuber version of occupy wall street?

>>49045840
unironically it was niji resistance during the early days of nijisanji where they tried to fight against the companies bullshit

>>49043073
Wait, is this true? The house nijiniggers are bragging about is a house in a 3rd world country, possibly in the provinces? Even I can afford that.

>>49035191
he then continues with
>I wish i was joking *nervous laughter*

>>49047569
What's wrong with bragging about it?
Me and my brother saved up for a house for my mother as well, since my mother always intended to go back after we grew up but couldn't afford it.
Be fucking proud of that.

>>49047855
I'm not talking about Mysta, I'm talking about nijiniggers. Mysta has all the right to brag about a thing he purchased.

>>49047855
Its like 5 grand, thats 2 months of work at some non shit job.

>>49047966
Oh okay, makes sense.
>>49047983
Dunno. You get some shitty hud for that. Me and my brother paid around 40k but the total price was probably around 60k and it was a small but very high quality house.

>>49034540
1% from this?

>>49047569
There isn't anything wrong with being proud that you could buy a land for your parents, anon. And yeah, he said he was going to buy land, not house, for his mother since she always wanted to own farm land.
Supposedly bought that 9 months ago

>>49048196
1% of MERCH, as in those shitty mass produced acrylic cutouts, postcards, posters, etc. that cost more than double in shipping, and fuck you if you're EU and have VAT or other bullshit international import taxes.

>>49048196
Nijibros? What happened to your Scs?

>1% share on merchandise revenues used to be laughably absurd
>Nijifags are defending it now
lol

>>49039768
>that's he's a broke bitch
>bought a new property for him and his mum after getting into nijisanji
Retard

>>49049703
It didn't happen and they deserved it. Quintessential tribalniggerism.

All this thread shows is that you retards don't even care about Niji enough to actually watch their streams. This shit old fucking news and anyone wise enough knows that streamlabs are their real source of income. But since your favorite dramatuber is regurgitating it and hyping it up as "earth shattering", you retards eat his shit up like it's new.

>>49051113
>Vtubers are getting horrendously underpaid, and here's why that's a good thing

>>49051166
>words in my mouth
Don't even fucking try this shit, you braindead retard.

>>49051113
The "le luxiem scs are declining retards" also don't know this. Look at their streamlabs if you want a better look at their earnings. Retards.

>>49051302
Bruh, they need you over in the Fauna threads, they're getting decimated.

>rich motherfuckers that work 20 hours a week are not getting paid as much as they could be
abloo bloo

>>49051113
It's "old fucking news", indeed.
However, last time people pointed it out with what Mysta said few months ago, Nijifags went up in arm defended their corpo overlord with excuses like "He was joking", "That was just a figure of speech" and similar craps even when people linked NijiJP's old clips.
That's why this blew up: people just realized that, gasp, Mysta wasn't joking and coupled with what Zaion said, it looks like Niji is quite a bit more predatory than newfags thought.

>>49034540

>>49051684
>Nijifags went up in arm defended their corpo overlord with excuses like "He was joking",
Holy revisionism batman! At least try not to make it obvious that you don't care about Niji and only hear about it through drama threads.

>>49051802
Go to the archive, search for Mysta merch and look at replies from related posts few months ago
And yes, I don't care about Niji. Never pretended otherwise. That doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to call out disgusting predatory practice.

>>49051923
Find them for me since you know so much.
>And yes, I don't care about Niji. Never pretended otherwise
>That doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to call out disgusting predatory practice
Translation: You're a drama seeking retard who lives off of fake corpo wars. Go back to sucking off FalseEyeD already.

>>49034778
yes

>>49034540
>you will make more money than what you made before you entered nijisanji
>If you have a second job or are Hex/Vox/Scarle.

>>49034540
Mysterio...

>>49054426
>>you will make more money than what you made before you entered nijisanji
Yes, that is true.
>>If you have a second job or are Hex/Vox/Scarle.
You realizing one of their members is in Uni right now and is currently taking exams. You would know that if you actually cared about Niji. But at least you're admitting Hex is successful.

>>49055139
>Yes, that is true.
LMAO

>>49036488
A joke? He said he was joking.

>>49037228
https://gofile.io/d/WskhW9

Does this satisfy your needs? Tried to keep as much context as possible.

>>49055684
For fucks sake, "he said he wish he was joking".

>Mysta was the rat
Makes sense, he is the only one that is not participating in their dramafaggotry
>suicidal
>the only one that used that channel where livers seethe about hololive properly to vent (dramadumping)
>completely ghosted Millie that did the 4chan seethe stream, twice and wasn't even aware of it happening
Why the fuck is he even in Nijisanji still?

>>49034540
>A gacha company of all things saved Mysterio...
You can't make this shit up

>>49055684
>"I wish I was joking"
Watch the whole thing, dumbass.

>>49055996
I corrected myself, thank you very much, reactionary anon. Try going through the thread first next time. There aren't many replies so you have no excuse.

>>49055917
So mysta's your savior now? After all the dicksucking to FalseEyed for his "groundbreaking" leak? Just fuck off already.

>>49055917
A new "liver" for the sisters to bully?

>>49034778
THE BLACK COMPANY!!! THE BLACK COMPANY IS REAL!!!

>>49034778
We can go even lower!

>>49049179
Isn’t it merch that they’ve also plagiarized in the past? Imagine getting 1% of profits from fucking plagiarized merch.

>>49035191
ITS JORK

>>49051802
NTA but I did care about NijiEN at one point. I was there shilling Lazulight and Obsydia, hoping for the best. Even when things got worse and worse I still didn’t give up.
2023 is the breaking point. Beyond the drama that some of the talents can’t stop dabbling into, it doesn’t matter because the company is genuinely scummy from top to bottom. In fact it probably explains why the talents are so menhera, because the company can exploit them however they want like they’re in a bad record deal, and they can’t even negotiate a better deal without fans like you getting ready to turn on them or throw them under the bus just to save Riku’s image. Who cares if my oshi is suffering, gotta protect the company image!

Are you telling me that this is the face of someone who would actively exploit his "employes" for profit and psychopathic amusement? No way I can believe that.
Just look at that face. That is the face of a good, honest person.

>>49034540
Is this the reason for the mantra:
>Buy merch to support your oshi, because they only get 1/3 of the supachats.
merchmakers and managers spreading disinformation on the internet?

>>49034540
>1%
oh man thats just fucking sad.
and this guys were literally their golden goose and mysta is probably the best from that wave.

>>49034540
I thought you guys are joking
It's real LMAO

Jesus, if you continue the stream it's pretty fucked to see him devolve into a stuttering nervous mess trying ultra hard to change the topic when someone in chat says "Are you allowed to say that".
It's like an "I'm gonna tell your parents" moment to kindergartners.

https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4345
> Wait does Niji merch have international shipping costs? I didn't know. I've never ordered anything.
> "Yes" - chat. *laughs* GET FUCKED IDIOTS! You guys are getting fucked over, while I'm sitting here in YOUR money!
> I'm just kidding bro I get like one percent from merch sales. I ain't getting shit. Fuck man I'm getting scammed myself. Maaan. Whatever.
> I wish I was joking. Anyway.
https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4401
> *realizes he fucked up and starts diverting* what else is there to talk about bro? I dunno how to talk *jokes around*!
> "Are you allowed to say that?" - chat
> *silence*
> *serious voice* Uhhh, yo, I'm just kidding, I actually earn 99% of- you know what I'm just kidding, none of the values I said are true values okay?
> I've never *stutters* none of the values I said are true, all of them are fake values that I just made up.
> I would never even SAY how much I earn percentage-wise for merch *devolves into gibberish*
https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4463
> "'Legally I must say I was lying about percentage earnings' moment" - chat
> Exactly! I WAS lying! You guys will never know the actual amount I earn.
> "Welcome back man, hope you had a nice break." - Ren. Hey, THANKS Ren.
> Yea Ren, tell 'em. We earn.. uh.. you know what don't tell 'em anything actually, what am I talking about.
> We don't earn ANYTHING! In fact, streamers don't earn money.
> In fact, every time you donate to me, we don't earn- actually, that's also bad to say, I DO earn money, the money does go to me that you send to me.
> Fuck. I need to shut up. Let's have a new topic, please, thank you. Yes?
> Someone say something, I need a switch right now, RIGHT NOW.
> Why has my chat froze? LET ME GET ANOTHER TOPIC! WHY HAS MY CHAT FROZE !? PLEASE !

>all that nijisis deflection only for it to be confirmed

>>49063228
Riku genius, i kneel! Release more waves!

>>49065041
More 3views!

His chat looks insufferable

>>49051113
> don't even care about Niji enough to actually watch their streams
why would I watch subpar entertainment?

Do you think talents are feeling safer after Sayu's document drop? Management have to think twice before sending people on 'vacation' now

>>49066247
>Management have to think
reevaluate your thoughts anon. you're not making any sense

>>49066536
has?

>>49066559
The think part.

>>49066247
Gundou has been on "vacation" for 47 days now.

>>49034540

>>49051579
>20 hours a week
They wish
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RLIyAS_q_Bc

>>49068045
No way it all adds up to more than 20 hours.

I'm sitting here in my boxers and getting paid more than niji Livers

>>49064993
Thanks for the transcript anon. No way in hell I was actually watching a Mysta vod myself.

>>49034778
WOOP WOOP

>>49047355
which is where Aqua took the Hololive Resistance thing right?

1% after 3 years Niji consistency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw

>It's old news
So the sisters are trying to say that they knew about this already and they are ok with their oshis getting literally nothing from the merch they are selling?

>>49036321
he bought a house at Flip land. I think you need to emphasize that KEK, Flip land houses are like 30k USD~~

>>49040046
Can you link the stream where she talked about it?

>>49073294
Ah so Kiki got 2/3s of a house before the company cut

>>49034540
lol Soon he won't be getting even 1%.

>>49067613
Of course, she insulted the honorable nihongo sport of basubaru, and needs two months to reflect on her crimes. Expect a graduation when she returns.

>>49075459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znNv8LriV60&t=5072s

as Pomu said, basically, streamlabs/voice packs > SCs > merch

>>49078966
Thanks anon

>>49078966
if she left and even a fraction of her audience followed her, do you think she'd make more money?

>>49075957
The other third came from selling her boyfriend's ballsack sweat encrusted gamer chair.

>>49068325
This anon talks anout his boxers and work together so much that I can only assume he's a Calvin Klein underwear model.

>>49034540
Riku I kneel...
You're the most greedy nigga I've ever seen

>>49079339
Yes, but in exchange of managing and doing all the work behind the scenes. If she only wants to be a full-time streamer, leaving NijiEN is the best option. The ones who will follow her to her RM are the paypigs anyway

>>49034540
Mystakes...I hope you don't buy too many his merch...

Are they gonna suspend Mysta for revealing the truth?

>>49082416
I only buy VPs and Streamlabs. He reads all of my shitty 1 dollar donations and always responds very graciously.

>>49063228
>We are number 1

>>49079614
Isn't Pomu not doing so hot in terms of, well, everything? Especially since the Luca shit happened. I don't think they're in any position to leave right now since they still get access to the NijiEN box (no matter how small it is nowadays). Remember that Pomu was a 3-view back in her indie days and she averages triple that as a founding member of NijiEN. Now as for the rest of shitters (Ehthyria, iLuna and Lolisex), leaving is probably a legit option that they think about from time to time. Scarle could unironically leave since she's made a killing of cultivating some hardcore gachikoi coomers in her fanbase. As long as those follow her, then she would make waayy more than if she stayed in Niji. That's probably going to be the gameplan for future nijien recruits. Cultivate a small but insanely dedicated audience that will follow you after your contract expires and then go about it alone. It's not like they're gonna miss the 1% merch money if they leave anyway.

>>49043073
>100k-200k / year is definitely not enough to buy a proper house in UK within 1-2 years of working unless you are getting one in the mountain or something
100k will go quite far outside of london, he could put a deposit down for 100K on a 150k house, and then pay £150P/M on his mortgage for the next 30 years

>>49035287
Don't give them any ideas!
They might unironically do it for extra profit!

DESPITE earning only 1% of merchandising nijisanji commits 50% of yabs

>>49066247
>Management
>Having the ability to think
lmao lmao

>>49034540
Nijisanji just can't take a break.

>>49088255
KEK

>>49034540
Why are you spammming this.

>>49034540
weird

>>49100443
Because I can and I should

>>49071996
>1% for merch
>1% for songs too
jesas

>>49103752
Stop being a fag.