/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No.

No.

>>49037486
Yes. You

>>49037486
Why won't you be my friend?

i already have friends. I just want to think of her as my friend too...

>>49037486
You are my only friends

>>49037486
Yes, thanks for giving me the strength to power through my fear of rejection fauna

A perfect stream was literally ruined by this bad take

Yeah my best friend and wife Ceres Fauna

No.

>>49037869
It really ruined the stream for you?

>>49037486
Yes, female ones too

>>49037486
Does my mom count?

No.

>>49037614
>>49037688
>>49037792
We are not friends.

>>49037992
I get that women are hypocrites and she was baited but basically yes, it's what I mostly remember about the stream now.

>>49038164
That's on you man I've made enough (online) friends to fill out 8 days just from /vt/

>>49037869
What was wrong with her take?

>>49038233
I don't care about friends, I want to be parasocial to anime girls

>>49038164
Sorry to hear that anon. Just because she'll never know you as an individual doesn't mean she'll never appreciate and love you as a fan

what's so great about having friends anyway? they ask you to help them move, or go outside, when all you wanna just stay inside and watch chuubas.

>>49037688
Because I'm your sister.

>>49038164
Grow up, parasocial interaction is not the same thing as friendship. I think you have an ego problem.

Thanks for reminding me for 10 minutes about how I don't have any friends, Fauna.

Nope. And I'm happy. Friends are annoying. All I need are vtubers

>>49038466
Can't change the narrative that is plastered all over the comments of the stream

>>49038012
The only female friend i have is an ugly girl i had to friendzone to stop her unwanted advances.
Is thst the same with you?

>>49038329
be my girlfriend then

>>49037486
FAUNA DONT LOOK

>>49038588
AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

>Ross shit and now this
Fauna needs to smarten the fuck up. She's been slipping lately. A few months ago she wouldn't have bitten this bait. The schizo part of me has been getting more and more afraid that we're getting increasingly closer to a Kronii-style blowout.

>>49037869
>we cannot be friends, but that's fine we can still have fun together
>you're never too old to make friends
How in the fuck is this a bad take, you disfunctional retard

No, all my friends moved to the city and mutated into shitlibs who hate everything fun. All I have is anime women now.

>>49038663
her job is to sell the fantasy of being our friend. fuckin western whores ruined vtubing i swear to god

>>49038663
I'm a man and she is a woman. We exist to breed.

Fauna said this?
Is she joining the "improve yourself" "Don't you have friends if the opposite sex?"

>>49038556
no she's a solid 7.5/10 and she's quite charming, but she's a genuine friend that I care about and im afraid that any advances would jeopardize that friendship

>>49038164
I wonder how many vtubers realize just how broken and isolated some of their audience members are?

>>49038750
Go fuck her you absolute faggot

>>49038729
She said that generally speaking trying to befriend your favorite streamer isn't going to work out, so you should balance loving and supporting your favorite Holos with doing your best to make some friends IRL. She said you should value your happiness most of all.

>>49037869
come home to jp they know how vtubing works >>49038588
>>49038729
funny how she said this after her offcollab with Kronii
like pottery

neanderthalbros i bet clippers are jacking off while editing together the juiciest bait clip of the month right now...

>>49037486
35 of them

>>49038729
>>49038874
I was thinking what this guy said

you're all my fwens. i wuv u all <3333

>>49038874
Marine just said the same thing Fauna did...

>>49038588
FUBUKI SENPAI NO! DON'T SAY THAT

>>49038874
>Fauna had sex with Kronii
>suddenly she's not parasocial anymore

>>49038164
What was hypocritical about her take? She said you shouldn't neglect your own social health if you can. I swear if she laid it on thick you faggots would just attack her for being "fake" instead.

>>49038874
>come home to jp they know how vtubing works >>49038588
you're being ironic when using FBK as an argument in your favor right? you haven't forgotten about the countless JP that have said essentially the same thing fauna did right? we're all funposting and not being genuine retards right?

a day can't pass without an EN vtuber having to give her 'reality check' to fans
I'm glad Gura hasn't done this yet

>>49039035
I don't really care about the friends part, don't be autistically black and white on what she was saying.
It was a parasocial = bad

>>49039060
>we're all funposting and not being genuine retards right?
you're in the wrong place anon

>>49038547
Leave it to a bunch of dramatic manchildren to freak out over the most polite rejection I've personally heard a vtuber give. There was no condescension, only Fauna telling people to respect her space, and that thinking you're friends with a streamer just because you watch them is doing more harm than good.

>>49038836
Funny how these women expect people to have friends after the covid lockdown.
>>49038908
Nice bodycount

>>49039162
Don't care, is it appropriate to jack off to fan art of her or not?

Nijinipple deflection thread

>>49039139
>It was a parasocial = bad
Link where she said parasocialism is bad then.

>>49039114
chumbuds reality check is that Gura doesnt give a shit about you or streaming. remember to renew your membership pay pig. you *might* get more reaction content aka watch alongs this month

>>49039114
In Gura we trust

>>49039238
Of course anon, coom away

>>49038836
I think these EN vtubers are fucking clueless about who their market is to say dumb shit like this

>>49039375
Bro you don't even know what she said

People told me she was green Lamy… Lamy would never say this…

>>49039139
She didn't say parasocial = bad, she said parasocial != friendship.

>>49039370
so that means that I can choose to think of her as a friend instead? Or can't I? Why would the less extreme thing be not ok?
This needs properly clarified

>>49039301
kek

maybe this and her fucking off to go on vacation "with her mom" will make saplings realize what they really mean to her

>>49039502
There was no moment where she said you couldn't think of her as a friend. Do you even know what you're shitposting about?

>>49039473
Never expect a western woman to follow Lamy's steps to the letter. The mask always slips off

>>49039488

>>49038750
With that attitude she's going to end up with some loser and you're gonna watch as her life falls apart.
>>49038852
Listen to him.
Get her pregnant while you're at it anon and start a family with her. Thank us when you realize that she's more than a friend.

Timestamp?

>>49039674
literally nothing wrong with this post. Unless you're a massive faggot that is.

>>49039618
She literally said the words "I am not your friend"

>>49039674
Where does that say parasocialism is bad? That comment says it's not a substitute for making friends.

>>49039674
I don't know if you're trying to provide support to what that anon said, or if you think you were proving him wrong and are too dumb to realize you're doing the opposite.

>>49039060
this, Fubuki, Marine etc hae said basically exactly what Fauna just did. Pekora's cold Christmas chicken debacle was a thing too the other year. Botan shat on a guy SC'ing her making fun of her playing in a CoD tourney as a play date, demanding he chargeback his SC etc.

The JPs don't tend to make unrealistic promises. A few might like Nene but actually it's not that common.

>>49039502
I mean you can call her your friend if you want, but that's not an actual interpersonal bond you've created. Fauna does not know you personally
>>49039674
That doesn't say parasocial = bad, just that parasocial interaction is not a replacement for real human interaction. You proved me right with this screenshot

>>49039674
Thank you, now i can make those fucking sapling seethe

>>49039765
Anon are you a retard or do you not know the difference between "I am not your friend" (literally fucking true) and "you shouldn't think of me as a friend if you want" (completely subjective)

>>49039776
Botan literally kneeled to unicorns after saying that about the SC

join the club, faufau

I thought what she said was reasonable but her hearting the parasocial is le bad comments afterwards kinda stings

SHE HATES US

>>49039674
I went to her comment section to check this myself and she hearts a shit ton of comments so this doesn't really hold any weight to me anymore.
This was lame, I have better things to waste my time on

>>49037486
>Of course we are not her friends! Th-that is obvious, she is so-so smart about this things ha...ha *starts sobbing*
I wonder how much cognitive dissonance can these broken men tolerate.

>>49039845
>anon posts "fauna said parasocial != friendship, not parasocial = bad"
>another anon literally supports his argument with a hearted comment
>"oh yeah this will make that first anon seethe"
shitposters are fucking retarded holy shit

>>49039674
lol so she's doubling down on it with those likes

>>49039863
>coping this hard
your behaviour is the type of homobegging shit that could potentially be her downfall.
At the very very fucking least to avoid damage to her career, shut the fuck up on this topic.
This shit needs addressed by her.

>>49039934
this, bad actors will disregard the fact she hearts like 50 comments after every stream and try to blow this up. be sure to call it out.

>>49039737
https://youtu.be/fgCHZbylmus?t=12120
It's a shame she'll get shit for this when it's actually the most succinctly put reality check that any VTuber has ever made. She didn't mock, berate or have fun at the expense of anyone. The main takeway of the message was that as a friend, a creator would not be any more special than anyone else. You're better off directing your reverence towards people you can actually hang out with

>>49039885
>removing YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS, Elira's spergout, and Phase Cucknect's megayab
I wonder who could be behind this post.

I already dropped Ame for the improve yourself bullshit now Fauna says this?
Where else can i go? I could go chumbud but Gura never streams

>>49039934
She hearts comments frequently but she reads them beforehand and will often skip ones she doesn't like

>>49039375
These are the type of girls who go to conventions, so they think all weebs are social butterflies.

>>49039885
can you slap an edit together with her replacing mori since that one is old as shit?

>>49037486
Why do EN streamers not understand that without parasocial cucks. They would be working the counter at McDonalds or larping as a starving artist in front of the train station.

>>49039885
But with one big difference...

>>49039993
Which is literally parasocial = bad

>>49039928
Unsubscribed and blocked.

>>49039974
>>coping this hard
>says the retard who literally didn't refute anything I've said
You could've simply answered my question by saying "yes I am retarded"

>>49039934
>>49039992
cope, she definitely reads the ones she hearts and even responded to one calling out the schizo super

>>49040056
How the fuck is that parasocial = bad?

I wonder why EN vtubing is dying...

>>49040093
woman moment

I knew fauna’s whole act was fake not surprised. Holo EN is going to decline even more now

>>49039928
What comment?

Fauna has never attempted to be GFE or parasocial

so this is..... the fragility..... of holobronies.....sugoi.....

>>49040105
retard

>>49037486
I skin infant babies

>>49039776
Holy clipwatcher, watch some 3Ds you may catch a membership, stupid faggot.

>>49040198
NTA but I'm also confused. How is that saying parasocial bad anywhere?

Get ready to improve yourselves, parasocial fucks.

>>49040030
>>49039375
That makes a lot of sense, they don't meet the antisocial weebs - which is most of them probably. They're given a bias towards ironic weebs and the normalfags who literally only go to cons to try to score some cosplay pussy.

>>49040185
>completely ignores the homos during the NY watchalong, doesn't even acknowledge their presence or even performance which was the bare minimum acknowledgement made by even Mumei

>>49039993
Nobody watches vtubers for reality checks retard. She fucked up plain and simple

don't you guys know how to sage?

>>49040198
Point out where she called parasocialism bad. Look, there's a timestamp so you can even link where she said anything like that.

>>49040007
If you find out let me know

>>49039232
why would the covid lockdown cause you to lose your friends

who cares?

>>49040190
>nijishitters keep taking L after L, now with the 1% merch stuff
>they try to take anything that remotely resembles a yab and spam it as hard as they can to spam it
>"l-le holobronies"
i swear to god you guys fucking suck at making it seem natural

>>49040251
maybe EN3 will have a girl who understands the true spirit of vtubing instead of this bullshit

>>49040190
Go give 99% of your purchases and superchats to Riku.

>>49039674
Faggot.

>>49039993
Nobody watching vtubers wants a reality check

>>49040251
It's about time someone goes Elliot Rodger on an EN chuuba to put them in their place.

>>49040275
>you have value and you shouldn't ever give up and consider yourself a lost cause
Isn't that literally just trying to raise the self-esteem of her fans?

>>49040274
What does that have to do with GFE or parasocialism? I've been saying this shit for months. Ignoring Tempus doesn't make someone GFE, you actually have to do GFE shit to be GFE.

>>49040007
Mumei? just ignore the ugly skeleton in the closet

>56 IP's
>131 posts

>>49040339
>AIIIIIIEEEEE the green woman on the telly said she's not my real f-friend
>*gets called out for being a faggot loser*
>I-ITS THE NIJINIGGERS, WHO ELSE WOULD MAKE FUN OF ME!

>>49039993
>The main takeway of the message was that as a friend, a creator would not be any more special than anyone else
Idols.
I have a regular life. I'm not a shut in. I have friends, plenty of lost loves etc etc. I still idolise Hololive members and consider my oshi better than everyone else unironically. Better than the greatest loves of my life.
That's parasocial. It's also fucking the based and chadpilled and I don't care what people say.
Any inferrence a holomember makes of being against this is wrong. Simple as.

>>49040364
Fauna is going full Kronii on comment sections

>>49040412
the ip counter has arrived

>>49040364
too late for that now, this board took what she said and ran with it

>>49040364
Already backpedaling kek. What’s worse nijisanji as a company fucking up. Or this shit i honestly don’t know

>>49040364

>>49040448
You realize you just outed yourself.

>>49039375
Except she literally was telling people that you're not too old to make friends even if it's completely fucking uncomfortable. That it DOES take a lot of effort but that you're not a lost cause, you can do it too. She even went so far as to tell her own story of how she was the exact same way in college, a completely and total shut in, and that she really had to go out of her comfort zone to make friends.

>>49040556
>>49040543
She didn't backpedal, she said the exact same fucking shit. Did you not watch the stream or what?

>>49040576
nope, just pointing out your embarrassing deflection

>>49037486
For anyone actually interested in what Fauna said, here's the timestamp.

https://www.youtube.com/live/fgCHZbylmus?feature=share&t=12116

Honestly, I thought she did great handling this SC, like Marine did with that chat she got a while back. She basically just said, "take care of yourself and your happiness first, and do your best to make friends as an adult because there are people as great as your favorite streamers out there IRL for you to spend time with in a way I can't spend time with you."

>>49040467
Where? What'd she say? Could you quote it?

>>49040448
holy shit you're retarded and I bet you don't even realize why

>>49040597
if /vt/ watched streams this board wouldn't exist

>>49040173
The comments on the vod, you have to scroll all the way down because they are the most disliked, funny enough

>>49040412
Yes, you can post more than 1 time, stupid retard.

>>49040364
nice damage control

Fauna can't afford to make any mistakes because, well... she has a lot that can be used against her if the fans turnon her.

>>49040448
>i-it's not us nijiniggers i swea-- >>49040556

Part of me wants to see Gura say something like this, because you know the chumbuds on this board would meltdown.

I don't get it, was her song bullshit or not?
She said she wanted to be considered a princess unironically

>>49040662
Why is having friends such a huge requirement for these people? What about people that like to be a lone wolf

>>49039993
>She didn't mock, berate or have fun at the expense of anyone
This is a really good point and you're completely right that it will be overlooked

>>49040662
She almost-landed but the exact statement "we are not friends" is way too blunt. She should have qualified it, like "being friends with me is not the same kind of way you'd be friends with people you know in-person." There, crisis averted. Or would have been at least. I'm kinda surprised she bit the bait on a superchat literally saying "so are we friends or just dumb simps", like what the fuck, who would dignify that? Not to mention that guy is a known shitter who had already been banned before. You'd think they'd keep a list or something.

look at this faggot

>>49040754
what fucking damage control retard, she said the exact same thing she said during the stream. if you thought that's damage control because it sounds too friendly it means you just outed yourself as a retarded schizo who's either a threadreader or deliberately blowing things out of proportion.

>>49040662
>Just make friends bro
>Just get a gf dude
My favorite classics

>>49040662
>timestamp
Wait what did she even say that people are mad about? She didn't disparage the fan-streamer relationship, she even acknowledged its importance. Why are people mad about her saying that her fans have self-worth and shouldn't give up on themselves or lose hope?

>>49040905
He's just jealous he can't make friends, what an useless hermaphrodite

>>49040888
"Simps", when you have people like Ollie flagrantly throwing that word around, is seen not as a complete negative, really. If he had used "paypig" she probably actually would've avoided it entirely.

>>49040597
>Except she literally was telling people that you're not too old to make friends even if it's completely fucking uncomfortable. That it DOES take a lot of effort but that you're not a lost cause, you can do it too

I don't want her patronizing lecture on what I should be doing, let me partake in the fantasy of vtubers being my friends and shut the fuck up, is that too much to ask? apparently for N

>>49040858
>requirement
she said that in response to someone who directly SC'd her you fucking idiot

>>49038836
Of course they do. Why would they lean so hard to the money making parts of it otherwise? I bet you they get a kick out of pointing out how broken their audience is and laugh at them behind the scenes with their colleagues. It's just how women are.

>>49040977
She was responding to an SC. If you can be schizo enough to take it as an offense you can be schizo enough to believe it wasn't directed at you and move on with your life.

classic extrovert vs introvert argument

This "yab" is interesting because it's impossible to attack her over it without sounding completely disingenuous or completely retarded

>>49040934
Nope, if you actually listen to her she explicitly said multiple times that making friends is a really hard thing to do, but still worth it at the end of the day.

>>49040934
these girls really are fucking clueless

>>49037486
>I will ignore males
>I will give you life advice
>We can hang out together on stream
>We are not friends btw

>>49040597
no i didnt watch unironically, but my point was moreso this is her “improve yourself” moment that this board will never let go, not that she was backpedaling

>>49040858
they are women, social approval, standing and even numbers in their mind is the biggest factor for a successfull person.
for a woman without a friend is a helpless lamb, some man can be fine on their own but women just don't get it

>>49040952
Nijiniggers are scrambling to find a yab even remotely equivalent to all the shit they've been under lately

>>49041041
>fauna
>extrovert
??????????

>>49040745
Post them?

>>49040905
Just saying Fauna lives on a razor edge of supension of disbelief, she literally can't slip up more than this and will be in damage control for a week over this dumb as fuck drama.

>>49041035
or she can ignore the SC like Gura would've done? she just broke the illusion with her 'we are not friends' bullshit

>>49040977
Did she say you should stop or shouldn't do that? Can you point out where she said that?

>>49040977
>let me partake in the fantasy of vtubers being my friends
so do it faggot. nobody is stopping you.

>>49037486
All my friends are /here/.

add her to the screencap list

>>49037486
this is fauna's "improve yourself" moment

>>49041119
>or she can ignore the SC like Gura would've done?
How about you go watch Gura then instead of bitching that someone isn't a 1 on 1 copy?

>>49038867
Unfortunately this narrative goes down he drain because it worked for Ross, who was is her chat.
Double standards.

im goiung to rope

>>49041117
When are you going to just post the dox already so you can cycle through a new IP instead of vagueposting.

>>49041066
>these girls really are fucking clueless
She never said that, she talked about how hard it was personally for her to make friends at first

>>49040597
>she was the exact same way
ah yes, affluent attractive young cosplayer woman knows what it’s like to be a an ugly addicted reclusive degenerate fuckup, dyrbi

>>49041117
there's 0 drama outside of this thread and maybe /hlgg/ if you count all the raiders you imbecile.

>ross
>now this
Not a good time to be a sapling

>>49041119
She responded to it sincerely, like a bunch of JPs have done before her.

>>49041119
>like Gura
stopped reading there. Blow your brains out

>YOU HAVE VALUE
>NEVER GIVE UP
>IT MAY BE HARD, BUT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF MORE THAN YOU MAY THINK
Ehhh it doesn't really flow very well

>>49041090
I think it's more like women will see you as a failure not worth their time if you don't have friends by the hundreds.
Reminder, women like strong confident males, not losers that stay home watching anime all day.

>>49041092
this. the giftcards will be flowing freely.

>>49041251
Meant for >>49041147

>>49041125
well i'm certainly not going to watch fauna anymore, she can get shit on for perpetuating this culture though
>>49041120
'we aren't friends'

>>49037486
Really pathetic attempt at deflection.

>>49041266
this isn't true, women like pathetic men

>>49041266
I think you should stay off /r9k/ anon, for your own good. Those retards are not good judges of how human interaction actually goes.

>>49040858
Most people need some kind of social contact to be happy. Not all, but most.

>>49040103
i can't find the comment she replied to, can you link it or post a screenshot or something?

>>49041316
When has anyone cared about the context of these comments?

And another recoils in horror after seeing the kind of fanbase they've cultivated.

>>49040977
Fauna doesn’t want you to watch her streams then. She doesn’t even really see her fans as friends who are there for her, but people who watch her do her job

>>49041324
>well i'm certainly not going to watch fauna anymore,
Best sentence you've written all thread.

>>49041214
>just spent over $100 on birthday merch that won't show up for another 6 months
>Fauna begins her Kronii arc immediately after orders are closed

>>49041402
this sucks bros

>>49040364
why did you dowvoted him so hard lol

>>49041341
>>49041365
Would you actually see a woman like Fauna dating a weeb guy with body pillows and anime merch everywhere? Never

hello losers, hard to make a task of having just one friend that caused all of this ITT? Shameful

>>49041324
my favorite nijinigger tactic is when they say "well as [fanbase] i will never be watching her anymore after doing [thing literally every real fan wouldn't give a shit about]".
reminds me of when nijiniggers tried shitposting with stuff like suisei collabing with roberu going "i feel so betrayed now as a hoshiyomi".

>>49041386
nevermind i found it

>>49041147
>if I say it often enough I can make it come true
go back to your copy of the secret, roastie

>>49037486
not anymore but i realized i can stimulate that part of my brain with fake friends in the form of streamers and youtubers. i'm old and i don't like most people anyway

>>49041402
Watching someone do their job is entertaining.

>>49040007
i'm the same bro
it's frustrating that the one girl that fully accepts the whole "you can call me friend, wife, whatever it's all fine" notion is the one girl who only wants to stream like once a month

>>49041375
>Most people need some kind of social contact to be happy. Not all, but most.
this is why she asked Kronii to visit last weekend. iirc it was her rm's birthday and had nothing to do. she even mentioned in one of her mario streams that having her over was good for her sanity

>>49040934
Females requirements to have friends are:
>Exist
>Breathe (optional)

Ofc they don't see that as something weird, because for them is normal as living. If a female wants to be alone she has to be an ultrabitch, horrible looking and only getting out of her house to buy instant noodles, and even with that she would have 10 people behind her talking to her all day and at least 8 of them want to fuck her. Fauna, Kronii, Ame, all of them and more calls themselves friendless losers, but they probably have 500 unread DMs and at least 15 persons that they could fuck whenever they want. Ame said that she went to Japan with her friends (the first trip this year), Kronii is 24/7 with her lesbian gang, Fauna probably the same thing . It's not their fault to think like that, it's their rotten brain they were born with that thinks that way.

>>49041402
MOMMY HATES ME?

>>49041324
She said she's there as an entertainer. She didn't say you should stop doing anything you're doing if you're enjoying it.
Fucking hell, I have heard people who actually shit on their parasocial fans, saying they're stupid, or deluded. How are you getting your interpretation at all from what she said?

>encourage people to value themselves more.
>get hate
Why do anons in this thread hate themselves so much? You dont want to be loved?

>>49039002
>ina had sex with kronii
>nothing really changed except kronii tongue punched ina's fartbox

Since we're not friends anymore, ig she won't be needing my SC, merch and membership money

Is my sage not working or is this thread just moving really fast?

>>49041599
shut up, you're supposed to be angry.

>>49040977
My thoughts exactly. She could have easily skipped the superchat but chose to read it

>>49041452
is it possible to cancel? guessing it's too late now, pretty slick of her to do this now way after the merch

>>49041599
why do you pretend that is the point

>>49041625
Saging only works if everyone does it and it's a long-lost art.

>please take care of yourself because i can't do it for you
>BiTcH WhOrE yOu DoN'T cArE aBouT Meee
classic /vt/

>>49041625
I'm trying man

>>49041466
Maybe not if he's a greasy slob that doesn't take care of himself. Guys with weeb body pillows can put out if they present themselves well and act like functional people. If you constantly show off your defeatist attitude to the world, people will notice and be put off by it.

>>49041619
Anon why would you SC, member, or buy merch for a friend you could just buy a beer and talk to once in a while

>>49041589
No, mommy wants you to be friends with your fellow saplings too

>>49041507
same which is why i fucking hate statements like this
just play the part, why is it so hard to understand?

>>49041619
...you don't pay your friends a friend tax, so it should be the other way around.
At least, I HOPE you don't pay your friends a friend tax.

>>49040977
this

>>49041580
It's easier for women to have friends or loved ones

>>49041619
what the fuck, you just throw money to your friends?

>>49041599
>Ame says that the people telling her that the new people that joined her company should get cancer and die should improve themselves
>Gets mocked by the antidiscord with the same arguments for almost a year

Many such cases

>>49039002
i believe this rrat

>>49041708
but i want to be friends with mommy the other saplings are scawy

>>49040977
Let me tell you this my guy. You're a niji dramafaggot and i suggest you kill yourself

>>49041651
Because it LITERALLY is the point she was trying to make, you're just too neurotic to see it.

>>49040977
My self esteem is higher than you

>>49041651
>why do you pretend the point she's making is the point

>>49041642
unfortunately these women just have to give us a piece of their mind even if it fucks over some people

>>49039238
oh, 100% She likes that you do it too

>>49041696
>yeah this is a full size pillow of this anime girl I find attractive so I can fantasize what it would be like to sleep with her
Imagine being so deluded to think this would get anything more intimate than eye contact

>>49041701
If that's what Fauna wants me to do then i guess i'll try

>>49041796
>>49041801
Why should I believe people that behave like this?
You're not like the men I speak to in the rest of my life

nobody in this thread does workout 3 or more times a week

>>49040662
The person sending that type of SC has no hope of making friends irl without getting psychiatric help first.

There's no good way handle this type of comment, what she said won't help that guy in any way. Not only that but she just reminded those in the "gray zone" (parasocial but respectful and not a schizo; which is "okay") how sad their lives are, they won't make friends just because Fauna did a little speech.

>>49041801
You stupid fuck, you really think /vt/ watch stream? How stupid can you be?

>>49041651
well, because that is the point. You just want to bend it.

>>49040007
the chumbuds here are in too deep and if you don't completely love the girl behind the avatar you aren't welcome

the hoomans here are cool but mumei herself is afraid of intimacy

thats why I liked fauna since her fans here were cool and fauna herself wasn't put off by the whole parasocial stuff
hopefully this doesn't set things back.

>>49040597
Bro you're missing the point. I already HAVE friends who I interact with and play shitpost with on our discord server. Regardless of that I STILL want to think of her as a friend because why the fuck not? It's much more pleasant to imagine being friends with someone you love and support than to take the cold, hard, business relationship with.

Multiple JPs have had this talk and have said it as respectfully as she did. Their fans didn't care. Only you schizo fucks seem to be jumping on this as a reason to shit on her when she didn't actually say anything wrong.

>>49041830
>even if it fucks over some people
if a chuuba telling you it's never too late to make fulfilling friendships fucks you over why not just neck yourself already then?

>>49041871
this, altruistic women thinking they can help out the clinically retarded is just a failing of their brain biology pretty much. it won't work. people don't work like that.

>>49041871
He sent that supa because he is dramafag you fuck. He made this thread

>>49041871
yea the winning move is to not play. Ame fucked up, Kronii fucked up and yet somehow we get a repeat of this.

I cant sleep

>>49041782
She hates (You).
Thanks for paying her bills and supporting her... male best friend too, I guess.

>>49041839
I think it's time for you to man up and take responsibility for your life, anon.

It's times like this that I remember that I share a board with people who are actually mentally ill. If you are mad about this you are literally the reason why streamers are terrified of their audience.

>>49041599
I find it hilarious that normies are not aware that there's an out of control epidemic of lonely men in the west that's spiraling out of control and finally getting mentioned by the media. Also that a lot of vtubers are COMPLETELY unaware that their target audience and the ones actually giving them money are mostly those men. And that saying "just get friends bro" is as stupid as telling a homeless person to "just buy a house bro". Both statements obviously result in anger.

>>49041921
People did care, but their discussions about it are all on 5ch. Meanwhile 5ch thinks very highly of the ENs. Grass is greener etc.

>>49041920
source : my ass

>>49041625
>>49041692
>they know? SHUT IT DOWN
Why are you guys as Holo fans trying to censor discussion?

>>49041898
after the interaction with that ruben ross e-celeb, this was the last straw. I'm out

>>49041920
Yeah how about you share this thread with your "friends" in Discord ay?

>>49040275
You're right, I watch them for entertainment because I'm not mentally ill and think I have a relationship with them.

>>49042006
>but their discussions about it are all on 5ch
The schizo den, you mean? The one that holds no fucking bearing on actual viewership (just like here?) If people really cared Marine would not be as big as she is.

>>49041920
that's fine, as long as your life isn't suffering because of her streams, that's literally the only thing she's worried about.

>>49041898
>fauna herself wasn't put off by the whole parasocial stuff
all women are turned off by parasocial stuff unless they themselves are also parasocial menheras that have nothing in their lives except that parasocial bond. But at that point you end up with streamers like Rushia, Don't think i need to explain why that is timebomb

>>49041924
It's their job to play the act, ENshart. It wouldn't kill them to keep it going all while farming money from people. you can't have it both ways

>>49041898
fauna’s boyfriend is the one who’s feeling uncomfortable and wants her to dial the fraternization back because he feels it’s starting to make their relationship and home life more distant

>>49042048
>saplings are already mimicking the kronie cope before they mostly died off
legit yab

>>49042088
You can. Quite a few JPs have.

>n-no! t-this will be her downfall! she's fucking screwed
>what did she do
>she said we're not friends since befriending streamers isn't the best option, and that you should value your real life relationships and yourself
Uhh... Okay? We're all just doing our favorite thing by pretending to be retarded, right?

>>49040044
she'd be working in a biology lab, thank you very much

>>49037486
Not you too mommy...

>>49041998
They should be terrified of their audience.

You get Kronii, Ame and Mori lean arc when they think they have nothing to fear.

>>49040364
>she used her emotes
cute

>>49042002
It's funny how we've had such of an influx of normie tourists that they go around calling people 'mentally ill' for being parasocial. I heckin love my twitter buzzwords!

>>49042002
No no normalfags do aware of that. You know what's our advice for lonely men like you? Stop shitposting on 4chink, put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger

>>49041163
Rules for thee, not for me

>>49042118
from the most 99% of it, very much yes

>>49042111
Cope and seethe mentally ill child.

>>49042088
>ENshart
>when multiple fucking JP holos have said the exact same thing fauna just said
good job outing yourself nijinigger.

>>49042130
Kronii, Ame and Mori don't have anything to fear anymore though, they filtered all the parasocials.

He's right you know

>>49042088
> you can't have it both ways
explain why mori makes more money than both Fauna and Gura

This wouldn't happen if she was still with shondo

>>49040378
seek help

>>49041998
Being terrified of the fact they don't understand their audience completely isn't an excuse. It just shows how little they actually have in common with it ergo how little they belong in the role. We all kinda know they don't really match up to what they present, but don't like being reminded of it. It's analogous to politics being inserted into science fiction or something, people don't like being forced to listen to the author preaching and interrupting his own experience to soapbox to a captive audience.

>>49042111
>IT'S DEFINITELY LEGIT AND VERY REAL YOU GUYS, PLEASE BELIEVE ME

>>49041068
She is not a councilor or some sort of self improve hack, she is there to sell an illusion, she is a god damn anime girl on your screen, the moment she adventures in these topics the show is over furthermore taking her advice after she said that she is just an entertainer would create a paradox of self deprecation.
Her replying to that SC was a mistake, regardless of how you look at it.

>>49042116
and lost a good deal of their fans for it. the good ones don't

>>49042192
but I was witty which suggest a good mood, you're using epithets because you're losing intellectual capacity from emotion

>>49042034
>I'm out
Lmao >>49041483 was right

>>49042253
>and lost a good deal of their fans for it.
Oh man, look at this poor woman. She's hurting SO MUCH because she lost SO MANY FANS.

>>49042213
welp and the containment breaking starts
great job not ignoring it Fauna

>>49040934
Just stop being a terrible person, it’s that easy

I told you /vt/ don't watch stream

>>49042274
he didn't even bother getting the name of the guy (that he's definitely very upset about) right.

>>49042111
anon...saplings were filtered hard way before kronies were

>>49042253
no joke, i got actual second hand embarrassment from this post. this board's shitposters are actually fucking stupid man. /vtg/ when?

>>49042268
What emotion? I already told you I watch streamers for entertainment because they are entertainers. I'm not delusional and pretend I'm dating or friends with them. Nothing she said has an effect on me. The one upset are the ones that were living in fantasy land.

>>49042332
>containment breaking
it's not 2020, this place is the largest community for vtubers

If Fauna dosent want to be friends with her fans then surely she wouldn’t mind her fans giving her harsh but fair criticism? If she’s a entertainer surely she won’t mind constructive criticism?

>>49042253
Parasocialism is bad dude, no matter what narrative you force. Fauna just wants you to take your meds.

>>49042213
Based

>>49042246
THIS, why can't any of the retards babbling on about reality accept that it's this simple?
>>49042290
she chose her path which is fine, but if Fauna has numbers that she has room to shave off them go for it girl no one's stopping you indepedent womanz!

>>49041721
i buy my friends drinks, dinner, and other gifts on occasion when I want to highlight how much they mean to me. Sc or buying merch isn't really much different

>>49042404
>Parasocialism is bad
all streamers are parasocial

You're not supposed to be friends with idols.

>>49042420
>THIS, why can't any of the retards babbling on about reality accept that it's this simple?
because literally nobody outside this thread gives a shit, you fucking autist.
t. autist

I really don't understand how pathetic your life has to be to come here and pretend to be mad about a topic you don't care for. This whole thread is either someone that pretends to be a sapling, or someone that pretends to watch hololive. Seriously, just kill yourself.

If it's such a good thing, how is there so many comments about one moment that happened during the SC read?
That doesn't happen with a nothing burger

UUUUUU I MISS OLD FAUNA

>>49042395
> my opinions matter
shame it's not yours, keep trying loser

>>49042404
Watching live-streamers whose entire job is to constantly talk to the chat and make a very large ceremony of reading all the donations and trying to be thoughtful/thankfully talk a bit directly to each one, is parasocial. Hololive by its core construction is parasocial and thus most vtubing inspired by it in the West. Not every single one however, there are random indies with ugly models who make no efforts to try to sweettalk or enamor their audience by being cute - but the Holo formula? Come on bro.

>>49042391
So I should send everything you say to their rms everyday right? That will make them give a further ounce of shit. I have their emails as well lets see how it goes.

>>49042476
Fishing for hearts from her?

>>49042522
woman moment

>>49042476
anon, these are the top comments. literally none of them are related to this horrible, horrible yab because nobody gives a shit. you actually have to look for them.

>>49042466
>I really don't understand how pathetic your life has to be to come here and pretend to be mad about a topic you don't care for.
That's over 50% of /vt/ for this board's entire existence

She's preparing her fans for the management-enforced tempiss collab

>>49042404
Parasocialism isn't bad, but it is not meant to replace real life relationships. Which is basically what she was trying to say, because the people you see on the screen, even fleshtubers, are not always the people they are when they shut off the stream.

>>49042442
No they aren't. Fauna is a content creator first and foremost, not your a made up gf for your delusions

20 different threads about the nijisanji yab. And yet 1 thread about this and holobronies are already trying to shut this down. Don’t you guys believe in free speech?

>>49042568
>thinking I don't know about the weird communities of vote manipulators
come on

>>49038962
source?

vtuber fans really are losers, huh

>>49042568
the yab ones are at the bottom because they keep getting disliked

>>49042546
Israel is the rightful owner of Palestinian lands

Still not as bad as what Hana said, which was actively antagonistic but hilarious.
Trying to turn this into a yab is kind of cute.

>>49042601
>why are people losing their minds over a real issue and not over some forced deflection shit?

>>49042488
Straight from the go Fauna.
Pourin' her soul Fauna.
Set on her goals Fauna.

>>49042640
Yes and fauna should clarify her statements

You know I genuinely though that Fauna wouldn't have an improve yourself moment. She's been such a professional at being a fake whore that I guess I forgot that eventually she would get comfortable and slip up. I think the whole "mommy" thing finally got to her and having to acknowledge it while not enjoying the meme personally could have made her disdain become too much to bear. That much annoyance wouldn't break the mask but a well timed bait superchat allows it to slip slightly. Who's to say though really

>>49042601
>Don’t you guys believe in free speech?
after seeing how many trumptards and eloncucks paid 8 dollars for twitter, free speech should not be reserved for mentally ill autists.

Kronii is ruining another good thing, sad to see but very predictable

>>49042607
Okay now this is cope.

>>49042002
It's like when they talk about being introverts, and how nervous they feel interacting with thousands of peoples every day while frequently chatting or going out with their +50 friends.

As a introvert, when I hear that I feel like the meme of Gus Fring saying "We are not the same"

>>49042496
Exactly Hololive was built on parasociality

>>49042627
We are watching e thots with anime avatars, of course we are

>>49041862
I do PPL 2x a week. I'm devastated

>>49042687
what the fuck does the mommy meme have to do with any of this? what?

>>49042476
because she's had a schizo target her for the past week or two combined with nijis needing a deflection target and regular dramafaggots who don't watch vtubers are circlejerking.

>>49042594
You don't know what parasocial means then. It doesn't automatically mean GFE. Literally everyone is parasocial in a sense.

>>49042755
This is your brainrot speaking

>>49042700
Yeah, like streamer who say they are introverted and bad at dealing with people, but also go to Cons and cosplay.
Bitch wtf?

>>49042594
Well then she should stop doing shit like this.
You can't have it both ways. You either except the fans who want you to be their friend or girlfriend, or you accept those same fans will schizo out later on when you shatter that illusion.

>>49042601
Shouldn't you be used to this nijizhang? Elira said the same shit but with womanly scorn and fury.

>>49041998
Saplings are one of the most mentally ill . Are you really surprised?

>If Faunas not my friend NO ONE IS
>You know what, she has to be as miserable as me now
>ABLOOBLOOBLOO
Nice crabs in the bucket mentality, nijisisters.

>>49039993
She basically said: we cant be friends in real life because you will get disappointed about who I am.
They really dont get the fact that people are talking about their characters

>>49040662
>all these people saying they don't have any friends in chat
Saplings...

>>49042627
where the fuck do you think you are?

>>49042687
holy schizo, western and 3rd worlders are really the worst fans. Literally kill yourself now

>>49042626
>>49042607
>"no i swear there are SO many comments about this"
>two, maybe three comments at best about during the past hour and one's from a containment breaker
nice "real yab" nijiniggers.
>vote manipulators
actually pathetic.

So what was the superchat?

by tomorrow nobody will give a shit about this.
stupid dramafagging calalog insects

>>49042601
thanks for outing yourself nijisis.

>>49040007
Kiara will gladly accept you

Do I have to just watch JPs exclusively then?

>>49042815
It takes a strong man to be this level of oblivious.

>Holo EN fans shitting on people for being parasocial
Do we need any more proof that EN fags are all normalfags that have ruined vtubing?

>Vtuber says you should value yourself more
>Somehow, green woman is a bitch for saying this
The "men" in this board are even more pathetic than those in /r9k/

>>49042687
well the kronii and ame shit also happened because of well timed scizo supers too
you think they'd learn by now

>>49042958
Yeah sure, Mr. Real Holofan: >>49039776

>>49037486
SAPLINGS???

>>49042213
Based.

>>49042977
Guys I think the bot is starting to break.

>>49042919
>the shondo comment is a grey name
kek

>>49042840
hmm, i'll give you that. She made me gosling hard at her birthday stream. I think she just wanted to show her appreciation to us

>>49042939
A cringe Berserk quote about how you can't be friends with someone unless you view them on equal level with yourself, followed by asking Fauna if she sees Saplings as her friends or just simps.

>>49042840
this is why I hate when EN vtubers do this shit, they act like this and then turn around and shit on you

>>49042989
Holy shit you're right, these guys actually have to be stopped

>>49042840
>Chat asks for it
>She, an entertainer, obliges
She fucking licked a Switch Cartridge for "the content" for fuck's sake. She does things because it makes her audience happy.

>>49040977
i felt better reading this because im better than you

>>49042815
If you watch vtuber at all you are parasocial.
There are better streamers, better singers, better personalities and better content creators literally anywhere else. If you say "I watch vtubers for [content]" you are simply deluded, it's the friend/relationship simulation.

Vtubing is probably the lowest tier, slightly above camgirl titty streamers on twitch.

>>49042840
Isn't this just fanservice? I think she's okay with throwing out crumbs like this, but she also wants her fans to be the best versions of themselves.
>>49043071
Okay I can accept the "breaking the illusion" take but where did she shit on her fans at all?

itt non-saplings argue with falseflaggers over something minor and catalogshitters try to force the topic into tribalism for the thousandth time

>>49042213
SHE DELETED THE COMMENT LOL

>>49040229
She legit said we are not friends. Also, sont try to befriend a streamer.
That means dont expect any sort of relationship from me and focus on your own

>>49042395
She's never said anything to the contrary

>>49042958
Yes. I've been telling people here for months to watch JPs or at the very least, go the indie route. But everyone keeps going
>MUH JP REPS
How do you think a majority of people felt in 2018 when there were no translations for vtubers and little to no time to do reps because in the office full time?
Would you rather study Japanese at least 30 minutes a day for a few months? Or live with the substandard product?

>>49042919
I honestly always get concerned about how many likes the anti comments receive

>>49042687
Anti-mommy schizo is that you? I hope you’re finally dropping Fauna you faggot.

>>49043147
>shitting on her genmate
>"Metal Gear Unicorn"
Yeah what did you fucking expect retard

>>49043111
it goes hand in hand with the whole 'i'm going to give you life advice shit' all while being in social standing higher than us

>>49042425
What you're saying is that by spending money, your main intent is for them to develop more personal, positive feelings towards you as the individual that you are. Which is precisely the exact thing that any streamer with half a conscience should avoid encouraging for many reasons. They can love their chat as a whole, but not individuals in it, no matter how much they pay, unless they want it to devolve into just the class system of paypigs and then everyone else.

>>49041619
Hey buddy I'll be your friend. Do you mind paying me in gift cards? That's what friends do after all.

>380 replies
Jesas vtubing is truly a hobby for losers...
Yep, time to move on

>>49043067
Sounds pretty autistic.

>>49043009
why do you write like a woman unironically

YOU ARE MY FRIEND

>>49043238
go make some friends

>>49043207
Bro I give my friends life advice, I'm not shitting on them by giving them advice. Do you honestly think that giving advice to someone is shitting on them?

>>49043179
Oh yes goy learn a new language and keep consuming product like the good cattle you are.

>>49041595
I honestly don't understand what's going on. This feels incredibly astroturfed, like deflection for something else.

>>49042989
They're normal women. They get off on things like that so it's expected. Fauna on the other hand is a legitimate professional in the business. I can't say for certain what was eating up so much of her mental ram that she'd take the bait but considering the deluge of clips I've seen of her recently I'd have to guess it's her already annoying fans increasing and becoming even more annoying in the process with probably some irl stuff as a basis.

>>49042213

>>49043255
>all that money and he still doesn't know what his favorite JPs stand for
you might actually be braindead

>>49042946
nah, shitposters and nijinigs will run with this one for a minute unfortunately. this is the only non-doxing thing they can run with without getting banned, I mean look how long it took for the Irys Ring Fit thing to blow over.

The ironic part of all this is Fauna said this because she actually cares about her audience’s well being. Somebody who doesn’t care would continue to string them along and lie to them.

>>49043279
yes i don't watch vtubers to be lectured about how i should conduct my life. let me partake in the fantasy of being your friend in peace

Now mommy is saying this

It's really over isn't it....

Posting on 4chan is not a substitute for having a real conversation. Go outside you parasocial fucks.

>>49043147
>retard comment gets deleted
>OH NO NO NO NO HOLOKEKS? FAUNA WILL GRADUATE FOR SURE THIS TIME

>>49043238
>anon replied
I couldn't agree more