/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

NIJININJAS ABAYO TASUKETEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

NOOOOOOOOOO MY THEY'RE SLANDERING MY OSHIIIII ANYCOLORRRR
AAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

I hope you aren't switching IPs and samefagging on cooldown

2 (two) percent.

https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4377
Mysta saying he gets 1% and he is one of the top dogs in EN

>>49026929
1%-3% of merchandise sales go to the VA. I thought that was only the type of numbers you get for black Chinese vtuber companies. Turns out it also applies to one colorful Japanese vtuber agency.

Seriously, why the hell would anybody knowing this ever buy merchandise from them again?

MY BELOVED CORPORATION NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>49026929
2%
>2%
2%
>2%
2%
>2%
2%
>2%
2%
>2%

>>49027357
>I ain't getting shit. Fuck man, I'm getting scammed myself.
>I wish I was joking
>"Are you allowed to say that?", actually I'm just kidding, none of the values I said are true values, all of them are fake values that I just made up. I would never say how much I earn percentage wise from merch.
Jesus fucking christ, I feel bad with how it just seemed like a goofy joke at the time.

>>49027357
He sounds like he has a gun pointed at his head (and he probably does)

>>49026929
Running a bloated company where managers have managers of managers is expensive

>>49026929
Pls tell down video :(

>>49026929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqdDB_tMtgA

>>49027357
>ywn get fucked as hard as the nijis
why even live...

>>49027357
This is some fucked up shit

>>49026929
>>49027840

>>49027357
MOOODS THIS INCEL IS POSTING HATE, MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>49027311
>>49027462
>he thinks its 2%
LOL, Mysta gets 1%!!

https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4377

>>49027357
>5 months ago
kek it's been there all along people just didn't listen
LITERALLY 1% OF MERCH SALES LMAO holy shit I'm glad Sayu is out of that fucking black company

>>49027357
And to think, he said that just after returning from a one month suspension.

>>49027357
Mysterio...

>>49027357
>that awkward silence after "are you allowed to say that?"

>>49027357
I kinda feel bad for the dude

>>49027357
Their manager definitely added another bullet point to his list of "talent's fuckups to post when we need to terminate them"

>>49027357

>>49027357
lol

>>49026929
motherfucker's got a vendetta goddamn

Man I just feel bad for niji talents at this point even if most aren't my cup of tea anymore. Management hate.

Why has Jerry Seinfeld taken up vtubing?

>>49027357
>Hakka makes more than this guy despite having a way smaller audience
RUMAO

>>49027991
It's a range of 1-3% thus an average of 2%

>>49028706
>Hakka makes more than this guy
in merch? yes
anything else? no

>>49026929
Kek. This is why you don't make enemies with popular figure in the community. Anycolor can be si dumb I swear

>>49028706
Still surprised he didn't bring in the audience of Spanish speakers and Metal listeners

I guess for true keks and zozzles we need the sales numbers of a Niji and see what %1 of that sales is.

>>49028766
>everything else
>They get a shitload of money from those canceled concerts and chinese sponsorships?
>My source? Dude trust me.

>>49028766
Whice is their biggest revenue generator btw, plus he gets some superchats after his covers... And he released a lot. From what he has already said on stream and on ironmouse's talkshow, lately he have been the one paying the family bills

I can't believe he even sneaked a segment with Kyo throwing shade on Sayu and Hex dildo screenshot. He really is done with niji kek

>>49028913
>lately he have been the one paying the family bills
Hermanitooo ;_;

>IT'S OLD INFO!!!!!
nijifags fail to understand that this brings more awareness to Niji being black to fags that aren't on /vt/ causing niji's numbers to fall off even harder

>>49029018
Can you blame him? The man only gave the news about Nijisanji, most of it good even though there was some bad in between, and they tried to kill him

>>49028909
i hope you're not implying a holoen male is getting more money than fucking mysta kek

>>49027357
>isreal
oh no no no nijisisters...

>>49029018
Considering they supposedly threatened people he knows (either family or coworkers) with some illegal shit I can’t blame him

>>49027357
someone send this to false lmao

>>49029109
lmao thats false he has been covering their drama every day even before that

>>49029262
>they supposedly threatened people he knows
I didn't know that. How?

>>49027357
Jesas

>>49029302
But he was way less cheeky about it before they fucked with him.

>>49026929
Nijisanji messed with the wrong dramatuber, they thought they would intimidate him into slience with copyright strikes, now he is hitting back with a vengeance. They also thought they can say whatever of Zaion with her being afraid of NDA to say anything back, that also backfired. AnyColor really like picking losing fights.

>>49029115
On merch? Definitely
On superchats? Idk, I don't know how much Nijisanji's and Cover's cut is, but apparently Pomu doesn't consider superchats the best way to support them and the homos are chill to tell their audience not to be superchatting all the time. So definitely they are not short of money, unlike Mysta who tries to bait superchats every chance he gets

>>49029403
he only changed thumbnails to himself so 2 percent sanji can't abuse copyright strike again, rest is the same.

>>49027357
Jesas imagine being a Niji

>>49029262
This is starting to sound less like a regular vtubing company that’s poorly managed, and more like an actual Yakuza front.

>>49029302
Of course, because it was news after all. It's what he has always shown to do not only for Nijisanji, but for Hololive and even not so popular companies like Prisma Project. but Nijisanji is the special little snowflake that can't see their problems being reported then?

False "NijiDestroyer" EyeD

>>49028228
Oh, you made a small oopsie woopsie last year? WRITE IT DOWN IN THE BOOK OF GRUDGES WHEN WE TERMINATE YOUR ASS SO THE TWITTER MOB CAN GO TO TOWN ON IT.

>>49029340
It’s only hearsay for now, since he said on stream that it’s the type of thing to wait a year until it’s okay to talk about. Allegedly he has screenshots of the incident, and has clarified that it’s nothing life threatening but the legality of whatever they tried to pull was questionable. He said it wasn’t a threat made directly to him but to affiliates. Could be bullshit but I have zero faith in Niji at this point.

>>49029563
I think, anon just forgot that cover gives salary to their talents.

>>49029526
And honestly of all the fucking garbage dramatubers out there False is by far the least offensive, anyco is so fucking stupid

>>49029880
It's not a very big salary, it's literally the minimum wage... But still a salary

>>49027357
Did he happen to go on a "break" after saying this?

>>49029709
sasuga black company

>2%
Nijifags were the ultimate cucks all along

>>49029563
Of course Superchats aren't the best way to support, because Superchats incur a 30% cut by Youtube. Streamlabs and Voicepacks don't have that 30% YT cut, so it ends up only being a split between the liver and the company.

>>49030104
No, because he saved quickly saying it was a joke... But it's interesting because he said that after returning from a 1 month break

>>49027643
He could feel the vacation creeping up from behind.

I love that he's spread a layer of "isn't holoEN great?" on top of his "fuck the colorful company" bit.

>>49030104
He covered it by saying it was a joke after he realized what he said. Also the cut is so comically low that most people would think it was a morbid joke.

>>49029855
My rrat is that the FalseyeD source who leaked the Spy shit is on the crosshairs. And if False reveals the info it can put this person in hot water. He even said on stream if this thing only involved him he would have already leaked it.

>>49029563
anon we know for years that its voice packs>superchats>merch. in en you can add streamlabs in there

>>49030215
Do you really believe that the cut in the Voice packs is fair? Considering everything said today and in the Zaion's doc, it's hard to believe that even this cut must be fair.

>>49029880
>>49030034
this
any salary is better than no salary
poor nijicucks

>>49030366
the voice pack cut is 50% anon, we know that for ages
merch is the smallest but they dont make money only in merch. theres a reason they release so much voice packs

>>49030366
It's a 50/50 split, has been stated by livers for years. And multiple EN livers have said that VP and Streamlabs are on the same level, meaning SL is a 50/50 split as well.

OH NONONONONO NIJISISTERS

>>49027357
lol lmao
176 billion yen market cap btw

>>49030034
lol, finana, vox and mysta buy brand clothes (Gucci) and travel to other countries spending thousands of dollars. they have a good salary

>>49030607
Gucci is not even luxury, and any normal person with decent pay can travel for holiday, unless you live in a 3rd world country .. oh.

>>49030446
>no salary
Seriously, i don't understand this.
Is this common on vtuber entertainment? Or entertainment in general?
Like, i can't believe someone will just become an employee without getting salary.

>>49030775
He forgot that Vox and Mysta live in a 1st world country

>>49030607
All that tells me is that they’re retards that spend their money unwisely

>>49030823
They aren't employees, they're hired contractors. Just like how actors aren't employees of a Hollywood production company, they're hired contractors.

>>49030823
>employee
Corpo Vtubers are contractors and the terms vary wildly even from person to person..

>>49030607
>Finana 'my credit card declined so Pomu had to shoulder all of my expenses in our vacation' Ryugu
lol
lmao
It's her family that is money. Dumb bitch literally said she uses her dono money to buy presents for her irl 'friends'

>>49030823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g2bM_UBbFE
streaming in general doesn't give you a salary

Never thought i'd go to war alongside a drama news channel

>>49030823
At least everyone in Holo seems like they're paid plenty.... Except maybe Sora. How does she still live in a tiny room with her family with piss poor equipment for her streaming despite being with the company the longest?

>>49031269
How about alongside a based guy?

>>49029810
plot twist: Nina's book of grudges wasn't written by schizo kindreds from china, but by her own manager

>>49027357
>that pause before the backpedaling
Holy shit it's so obvious, how did people think he was joking

>>49031511
Aye, i could do that

>>49027357

>>49031269
These are strange times my dwarf friend

>>49031327
Maybe Sora’s just the humble “if it works it works” type person.

>>49030823
>suspended
>no salary
>cant stream on PL
Rumao

>>49027993
I thought it was a joke, I didn't think they actually got 1%. The whole "Pomu going to Hololive" thing sounds way way more possible now.

>2% in merch
>nijis have to pay for their own debut
jesus what’s next? they have to pay for their rigging too?

>>49031937
Please, HoloEN ever hiring a nijiEN talent would be a PR nightmare. Never happening.

>>49031327
Bloody retard, she is one of the founder and had share in the company, that is why she doesn't care about number. Also the reason for the talent-focused direction of Cover.

>>49031559
I understand why he was so menhera during pic rel now

>>49031695
I hope that's the case. But she should really upgrade her pc

>>49031327
are you retarded? being rich doesn't mean you have to spend it all. For a long time she had no youtube membership because she had them on niconico douga and don't want people paying twice. even after she opened membership, she only have 1 tier and at the cheapest of 3 dollars. She is the dai-senpai in japanese senpai-kouhai culture, it make no sense she don't get pay decently or at least the same as the others.

>>49032233
>she doesn't care
I love it when one of her minecraft stream did really big number and she decided to stop streaming minecraft for weeks.

>>49027357
In addition, here's what other Nijisanji talents said about the best way to support them (lmao):

Pomu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znNv8LriV60&t=5073s

Maria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkVYRpDtrNY

TLDR: Streamlabs = Voice Pack > SC > Merch

>>49027357
this was 5 months ago.
why the fuck this dramanigger bringing up this thing rightnow?

Hololive
>base salary
>huge merch income for the talents
>1 manager for 1 talent
Nijisanji
>no base salary
>2% merch income
>1 manager for 5 talents

hmmm someone is more concerned with profit, and someone is more concerned with their talents

>>49033777
niji's voice packs and booth goods? Why do people that don't know all of niji's funnels try to compare it to other companies

>>49033777
Even Phase Connect has a base salary.

>>49033777
Sir, Xsoleil and Iluna are six members, sir

>>49033901
Golly why doesn't Hololive have those things?

>>49033901
>niji's voice packs and booth goods?
holo's voice packs and booth goods?
Why nijiniggers are this dumb?

>>49033973
Kyo is in Ethyria, and there was never a 6th Xsoleil member.

Is the final yab upon us?

>>49033777
Some holo managers have two talents, but pretty much this.

How much do the talents from cover get? Was that ever disclose on the financial shit they released?

>>49027937

>>49035960
more than Niji that is for sure. from the bits of informations they give us: youtube take 30%, the remaining 70% is split 50/50 between Cover and talent, then the 50% get taxed.

>>49033100
Because he said he was joking so everyone ignored it.
We now know he wasn't joking and just said that to cover his ass.

>>49031327
Sora almost definitely has some kind kf stake in the company. The A-chan being a manager bit is also kind of a fiction because she's apparently pretty involved in the internal workings of the company.

>>49039873
A-chan has directly told us she isn't a manager, she do work all over the places. According to her and Sora, she started as just Sora's friend who helps out until Yagoo hired her too.

>>49035960
>>49039646 (me)
forgot merchs and sponsorship. seem to be 50/50 too. sponsorship at the very least a nice cut because Pekora wasted a bunch of money on horse gambling during new year but mentioned it was fine since she worked a lot of sponsorships last year.

>>49039702
It was such a comically low number that I had assumed it was just a joke, and the awkwardness was because Mysta is a mental wreck and was cringing over how unfunny it was.
Turns out the awkwardness was because it was real lmao

It all honestly makes sense now. If you are getting that low on merch, you'd definitely be begging for more superchats and streaming more but if you are well off, you barely read superchats, do very little streams either because you either don't want to, got sick or your company has you on other things where they make more money on from you. The Latter likely gets more money from memberships and stream infrequency doesn't matter in the slightest. That's why superchats don't matter in rankings because you don't know the full picture of where they all get the bulk of their money from. Remember that Coco and Rushia went back to corpo contracts even though they were the most superchatted at the time. That circumstantial evidence tells me that they get way more in other areas that superchats can't provide at least on Hololives side.

>>49039873
Iirc during holotalk she implied she was the creative director for the Hololive project

>>49032320
I still remember the first time this leak comes out... I need to save Mysterio...

>>49027357
I kind of feel bad for him ngl

Cheers guys

>>49031327
if you watch a few streams sora is just an unironic weirdo. like the other guy said a random minecraft stream got a couple hundred thousand views which made her nervous so she stopped streaming it for a few weeks. recent clips have started to show this side of her more

>>49039203
Kek

>>49033777
Iirc there are 3 managers for Myth(3 for 5). Even ID1 got 2, one local new hire and one from JP(2 for 3).
Not exactly 1 for 1 but it was infinitely better than 1 new hire for 6.

>>49027357
id skimp his ass too fucking mole looking motherfucker

>>49027357
it sounded so absurd people really took it as a joke
what the fuck man

>>49033777
>1 manager for 1 talent
Sankisei has a single manager for the whole gen last time I recall.

>>49026929
the mad lad

Meanwhile RIku is enjoying life on his yacht.

>>49026929
wild

>>49026929
2.434%

>>49039203
KEK

>>49027643
Can't piss off management, or you may just end up "harming shareholders" along with a few more charges they remembered

>>49032035
bet they need to pay for their own avatar upgrade rumao

>>49026929
good luck

>>49027643
Looks like Mysta is about to get a sweet vacation... poor guy.
He doesn't deserve that bullshit. None of them do.
Well, except the clique, they deserve so much worse.

>>49028913
Im sure the Stars dont make as much as the girls do, but they are doing just fine. The amount of gifted memberships alone each one gets likely pays for their months bills - anything beyond that is icing.

>>49026929
thats it...

>>49044016
I'm out of a loop a bit, is this just general joke about fucking his employees over or did the fucker actually buy a yacht?

>>49027357
Worth it

>>49032035
You're not supposed to know that

>>49034204
But the talents also have two managers sometimes
They share both managers and talents sometimes, probably so new ones get good at their job

>>49030104
>Did he happen to go on a "break" after saying this?
Read his goddamn video title! Holy shit, are you fucks that bad at reading?!

>>49056739
I was asking if he got suspended again, retard.

>>49026929
Who's that, a former nijisansji?

>>49056922
That would make no goddamn since he just came back from a 30 day break. Also you're forgetting that Kazuha made the same comment about merch, but I'm not seeing shitposts about him.

>>49028743
SO 98% of the time it's 1%, 1.5% of the time 2% and 0.5% of the time 3% for an average of 2% isn't it?

Is still remember how back on /jp/ nijiniggers would always boast how much Nijilivers earned from merch sales compared to Hololive. Where are your smug reaction images now, huh? HUH?

>>49057085
No one wants to hear about your delusions.

>>49057139
Archive reps, nigga. Last time I checked, Warosu was still online.

>>49026929
I wonder what percentage of the profits, not the sales, the talents actually get. I can't imagine it making much of a difference though, considering how cheaply produced Niji merch oftentimes is.

>>49033777
>>1 manager for 1 talent
This one isn't true, for anyone. Still better then Niji if what Zaion say is true but a lot of Holo & Stars share managers between each other.

>>49026929
2%
Literal kike company

>>49057022
no one asked, nijifag

It's time to grow up, dramafags

>>49058106

>>49058106
bro just let others expliot you bro never fight for yourself bro never ask for a raise bro allow your superiors to treat you like shit bro never question the chain of command bro that's just how adult life is bro

Are we back to this loop yet?

>>49058640
based otakmori exposing black companies

>>49058640
Unironically posting Ot*kM*ri TLs…

>>49055554
>did the fucker actually buy a yacht?
that guy is the 26th richest man in japan just below yagoo. what do you think?

>>49058640
Love like this, in context showed that cover was actually very supportive and adaptable for their talents, yet otakmori tried to make them look bad and just exposed himself as the ultimate thrash.

>>49026929
well he's actually becoming a real reported
good on him

>>49059886
So Yagoo has a yacht too?

>>49033777
Pretty sure Kiara said she had two manager

>>49060365
No, but he own a tractor for rice farming

>>49058106
Of course Asian sisters on the doxsite are perfectly fine with their oshis being exploited if it means Riku can buy more yachts.

>>49060318
the sisters must've sent in a lot of reports on him over the past weeks I bet

>>49026929
SOMEONE
save them

>>49057085
Once again proves that Nijinigs never change

>>49058106
LOL OMG what kind of cope is that? and you call yourself fans of the livers?

>>49058640
>Noel asked Cover to do alot of shits that cost money, end up with negative salary.
>Nijisanji pay livers 2%
Nice try Nijifag.

>>49058106
If you mean by grow up is being brainwashed then sure and i would like to make a company and hire you, image being this retarded

>>49065539
And the important thing is that they have a lot of other opportunities to recoup that. Not as much for nijis unless they can push lots of voice sales.

>>49058640

>>49027357
Wtf. How and why are they even making it

>>49029563
Oh come on, this is delusional

>>49073704
that yacht won't pay for itself

>>49052160
what clique

>>49058106
Why are women like this?

>>49058106
Fucking kek, what job is like this?
That's not even remotely normal.
The companies overall profits, maybe you'd have an argument, but personal bonuses on things you do in the company typically go directly to you, be it tips, extra sales over a specific threshold, selling stock off quicker than usual, etc.
This is either a legit child or a NEET.

There's a reason "black company" exists.
Also known as scummy companies, dodgy companies, probable tax avoiders, criminal enterprise, modern day slavery, and others.
Many companies have been exposed, named and shamed, etc. for the latter in particular - modern day slavery where they work employees to the bone for pays that are well below a liveable wage for the region.

JWU give me the qrd
I assume OP is lying and this is just a hatebait thread

>>49080579
It’s normal in China

Why are nijisisters made at false?
Shouldn't they be mad at niji management for taking all of their money that they spend on their livers?

>>49058106

>>49080705
No lies here QRD yourself. Literally the 6th post in this thread

>>49081014
they are not known for their intellectual prowess anon.

>>49028799
Dude you don't watch him at all, he has a dedicated stream in Spanish every Sunday, and he always gets request of metal songs in karaokes