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>>48999812
To the FUCKING MOOOOON, NIGGER !!!

>Moom thread
I'm fine with this, don't forget the links

So marine op next thread i guesss

tempus LOVE !

Not really in any mood to shitpost Niji today. I feel like every time I do I get fucked in the ass with bad news.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>49000046
It keeps happening...

>>49000055
this isn't /MANS/ sis

ARE YOU MOOMIN' NOW, ANONTACHI ???

>>48999452
I'm not sure what metric you're using here
Mori still gets more views than Kobo thanks to her massive music catalog
Kobo's not even top 10 in views/month - JP dominates there
Gura (plus many JP) still gets more views per vod
Kobo's new music is doing very well, but Suisei still gets more views for her new music
The only metric Kobo possibly dominates is view/ccv ratio, and even there Gura remains competitive

>>48999933
>>49000087
>>49000149
We don't watch 2view EN whores here.

>>49000004
>24k singing stream
This is why Suzy won't leave Hololive. The fans will just make another popular singer kinda like what happened with Chloe after the two most SC'd Holos left.

grim

>>49000000

>>49000177
>>>/jp/

Why is ironlung cosplaying IRyS

My cute wife

>>49000167
Koyori beating Mori in monthly views is the actual crazy. Is her music views slowing down?

>>49000302
I thought she was bedridden

>>49000243
>numbers thread
>LET ME SPAM THE GIRLS WHO GET BAD NUMBERS

>>49000312
HoloEN views is gigaculled + they usually gets shadow ban

>>49000312
ENCull

>>49000312
her everything is slowing down and she's now realizing it, but I think it's to late to course correct

Apparently the Kou thing was just about otome game permissions?
https://twitter.com/sukeo_15634785/status/1655598960004988929

Pekora said she is going to take this and next months easy getting ready for something (her anniversary with collab rush I'm guessing)

>>49000312
I dunno if Mori's music views over time are down (obviously views for her recent streams are in the gutter), but Koyo's recent numbers are due to her 24 hour endurance event that hovered between 30 to 70k ccv

>>49000167
Kobo has the most TikTok followers, Instagram followers, and Spotify monthly listeners in hololive, all of which are metrics that most hololive members, including Kobo, and certainly not this thread, care about.

>>49000453
Fucking Kore Kore bait titles.

We should just stop posting NijiJp news till Gundou happens, saves us some braincells.

>>49000453
That's a nothingburger if true.

>>49000453
Kek, no Nijiyab after all. SAFE!

>>49000149
there is no moomin' and there is no Legendary Jap, they are stories made to scare little kids

>>49000453
It's nothingburger then

Look what i got recommend.

Yep, this idiot >>49000453 just confirmed it was a nijinigger raid after all.
>>49000210
Went to the False thread to damage control.

>>49000081
i think niji is a black company with pieces of shit managing it and we should cancel them

>>49000004
Cool, then post this instead of your offtopic trash

>>49000507
>TikTok followers
That's as silly as counting youtube subs for Twitch streamers

>>49000453
I was about say something because I saw nothing about sexual allegations but only an otome game and permissions. This is why you watch what he says first retards

>>48999812
She's currently buffing Kanata's stream.

>>49000625
yagoo... the boyz....

>>49000081
i think you should kill yourself

>>49000610
And while I agree with this I don't want to wake up to news that Holos keep getting COVID for Nijiniggers and ENsharts to take solace in.

>>49000149
Kill yourself, ENshart.

>>49000593
Hey! no pegor lewds today Marine won

>>49000679
I think you should too, Mythicfag

>>49000689
those arent related retard

>Zaion is now the second most well known NijiEN after Vox.
How replicable is this? Zaion has reached a level of fame and relevancy that say Reimu and Rosemi could never get normally

>>49000675
he knows how to save them, but that would mean putting "Holo" in Holostars brand in jeopardy....
In other words, go full pandering to kpop fangirls like how Niji males do

>>49000625
>I can't answer any more than that.
why not yagoo? why can't you answer? why can't you talk more about how the homos are doing and what your plans are?

Our response?

Why is our ENshart poster running Nijidefense in other threads? I thought he was a HoloJPchad, not a NijiJPfag. Well, live and learn.

>>49000625
Stars just need their moment to shine. The shouout thanks to idol showdown will probably help and if I heard correctly their talk about going to make a star member one of the dlc character which will give them a big boost.

>>49000453
WELLLLLLLLL ANONSSSSSS!?!?!?!?

>>49000237

Alright I am back
Previously on drama >>48868829

Updates on each of them
1. Tweets from RobberRoss >>48935724
2. Seems to die down now. Nobody cares about starsEN I guess. Just a few clips that is not even breaking 100k >>48996688
3. Sayu did a stream today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYkgkD3o-Sw
No much new things, only thing I can think of that is noteworthy is that she doesn't agree with Finana's assessment that she gaslighted her. Otherwise there were updates about what she will do in the future. 3.8k peak ccv
Kyo diss Zaion: >>48932983

New(-ish) drama
1. Eien with another yab >>48886159 >>48889718
2. >>48997981 No solid proofs but Korekore said "Nijisanji's Vtuber is accused of ●● behavior" He never had any real stuff. The only thing he managed to do is to get Rushia terminated.

>>49000790
qrd?

>>49000790
you just realized?

>>49000797
Go back Kris

>>49000797
Hopefully mori organize multiple holoproEN collab /tournament and show holoJP how it's done.

>>49000149
How is holoX and Council 3Ds so mich better than the rest

>>49000844
based nijibro

>>49000844
Thank you BVTM!

>>49000453
well, he needs to be careful because it may turn into a nijicaust...

>>49000738
Have you seen the last threads? They were saying AkuShio COVID is "karma" for all the Zaion/Sayu stuff.

/#/ - Drama and sisters posting general

>>49000844
Fauna also liked my tweet once and I'm a dude, you should add that as well since that seems to be your requirement for "drama".

>>49000844
If you're going to do an "anchor for drama" it would be cool if you included only real drama of the
>7/10, everyone is talking about it
instead of
>2/10, thread stopped talking about it before archiving

>>49000844
>He never had any real stuff
None of the dramatubers had any real stuff. EN dramatubers are even worse. They just plagiarize what veetee said on their stream to get views and money.

>>49000752
>Zaion is now the second most well known NijiEN after Vox.
How do you even measure this?

>>49000790
>ENshart poster
>liking anything JP
That answers your question for you.

https://youtu.be/q-6lNdMojsY
This shit is fucking hilarious

>>49000935
AHH HE FUCKING STOLE >OUR PIC

Holy fuck, so is true that those who weren't part of the ENclique were forced to throw Zaion under the bus? imagine being darker than black

How many streamers have higher median/average ccv than KoreKore?

>>49001027
He means a poster who keeps complaining about "ENsharts"

>>49000625
Actually I wonder if he’ll say anything about da bois at the investor meeting

>>49000973
and im saying they arent related schizochama you need meds

>>49001021

>>49000848
He's over there attacking people wishing laughing at Niji. Saying shit like it's the reason holos are getting covid, like the milliemage poster too.

>>49001114
Tell that to the resident Nijiniggers and ENsharts.

>>49001121
Post the Gura version

>>49000625
>To begin with
>I can't answer any more than that
Tanigo-san...

>>49001097
None that i that know off. Closest is the top spic streamer with 100k average

>>49001101
Rust leech arc was about boosting their numbers up to brag

>>49000844
what is a ''●● behavior''?

>>49001156
NTA but he's right. You really should be careful with what you wish for as anything could happen to your oshi at any given time if you're not careful enough. It's why I don't stop short of attacking individual Holos despite not liking Hololive.

>>49001101
As usual, he will find ways to hide them unless some investors will probe them out

Look what that guy's wife just sent me

>>49001055
Damn, Rena reads One Piece.

>>49001164
I don't have it but have a cute one anyway

>>49001194
Clickbait by korekore. It’s just about game permissions bs which is boring

Trackholo is broken, I guess vrabi is the only reliable subs tracker now, the only problem is that it only updates once a day at midnight JST, or maybe we should go back to using socialblade.

>>49001214
>It's why I stop short* I would never attack Holos individually. No one deserves it, just the corpos themselves if anything.

>>49000312
Her music views and views in general have been trending down since at least this time last year. She's close to dipping under Okayu and Watame.

>>49001250
>game permissions bs which is boring
yeah, the holocaust was boring too...

>>49001230
everyone knows luffy and seen some parts of one piece

ENshart this
ENshart that

>>49000625
That sounds like he was taking indirect shots at Niji Females more than Holo males.

>>49000625
Tempus was the plan A. Tempus 2 was plan B. Now they’re on plan C

>>48996798
>I hope he included Kiara's ''idk about [vesper] oshi mark, i only know the girls''
KEK if real?

>>49001296
It’s about an otome game or somthing. It’s boring compared to what anons initially thought it was about

>>49001194
"Maru maru" behavior. Censored word. In this context it is Korekore clickbaiting his viewers.

>>49001009
All the things I included has been talking for over a day now except for Korekore's one for obvious reason. I wish I start doing this during Kawaii gen3 graduation because then I can have a good compilation.

>>49001334
I'm craving a tart now, thanks for that

>>49000625

>>49000625
>>49000776
Why do you keep posting this? We've already seen it Nijinig.
>>49001172
To be fair I'm not sure what he could say. Anycolor has successful males, but even they don't know how to make them popular as illustrated by any of their new debuts.

>>49001214
No one is attacking individual Niji's in that thread. They're attacking anycolor.

boring hours... Suggest me a chuuba with the same feels

https://files.catbox.moe/seydaq.mp4

>>49001352
Yes, when she watched the credits she said that

>>49000844
Based drama anchor. Kill the timeloop defence force

theres options now enbros come home

>>49000790
Because they were always a Nijifag. That people are stupid enough to fall for all the falseflagging these retards do is incredible.

>>49001397
Then I guess Holofags may just have better tact than Nijifags. The former treated a COVID diagnosis as if it's "karma" for all the Sayu/Zaion stuff. The latter seems more preoccupied with the malice coming from Niji management. It all makes sense and yeah it's why I will ultimately view Holo fans more positively. Just don't tribalfag within too much.

>>49001066(me)
don't ignore me anons.. translating my post manually was hard...

>>49001446
Huh? Who? No thanks!

>>48999933
Rurudo my beloved

>>49001381
>gen5 have more debut ccv than Myth
>more than CouncilRyS too
Let's be honest EN vtubing is not that popular in the first place. There are only ironic weebs and whores in the circle.

>>49001384
>Why do you keep posting this?
why are you so mad kris?

>>49001359
>has been talking for over a day now
Not really, except for the singular anon trying to bring it back to the topic.
Except for the korekore one, which will blow over before the end of this thread, making it as well unworthy of the next thread "anchor for drama"

Unless, of course, your goal is to keep them being talked (making you that one "singular anon"). If so, carry on

>>49001381
we're 100% getting Tempus3

HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>49001497
Knife earred slut

>>49001489
Crap, I flipped them again. My blain. Hopefully you guys get the gist of it.

>>49001446
Fuck off, shill.

>>49001500
Uh, check her hairpin
Also:
>rurudo
>busty

>>49001466
make a collage with the selenavatarfalsefag

>>49001537
yeah, mine

>>49001296
The submitter was a schizo fan of some otomege that she believed he didn't have sufficient permission to stream it (he streamed it like 3 years ago). Apparently she even post comment and tweeted at him repeatedly with no response which urge her to 'escalate' matters to korekore himself.

>>49001446
That'll work on the Saplings and Hoomans but not me.

>>49001504
>Obsession with some Twitter nobody.
>Routinely shits up the thread.
Smells like Nijinig.

>>49001573
Excuse me?

>>49001446
True. If you only care about SC money and don't plan to build your brand, EIEN and IdolEN would be a good alternative. A sweet deal for SEA women, that 20k USD donothon by the flip woman is lifechanging for a teenager

>>49001588
>Mad at people making fun of Stars
Sounds like a sister.

>>49001446
garbage

Fact: Marine and Pekora love each other in a platonic away and they'll never leave hololive without each other.

They are true friends, some of the few real friendships in Hololive.

>>49001562
She seriously needs some help

Well Holo does have a COVID outbreak but I'm honestly shocked there's not enough shitposting against it compared to Zaion/Sayu. Maybe the actual Holoantis got humbled idk

>>49001510
RobberRoss was talked about over 2 threads yesterday.
Idol Showdown Tempus reference was mentioned here and there but not much which is why I made an update about it and said it was dying down.
A lot of people were livewatching Sayu and Kyo dissing Zaion was its entire thread that passed bump limit.
Eien's yab was talked about more than 1 thread and was pretty interesting when you go dig deep into their thread.

As always feel free to pin the post with anything you think is noteworthy as a drama.

>>49001669
now you get why some people hate fujos

Just woke up, I don't know what happened, tuned into this Patra stream thinking it was the "leaving 774 Inc." one but.... yeah, don't know what happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQrHAG_CGDA

>>49001669
>She
Korekore too. I hope Korekore can afford a rope and he should buy it for himself. Oh ya and a chair too.

>>49000000

>>49001692
Shitposters here are still holofags anon. They wouldn't shitpost something as serious as that for something they actually likes.

>>49001381
>every proper JP gen doubling the previous debut CCV
>gen5 smashes it to 6x
2020 was such a good year.

>>49001659
Ehhhhh, maybe not to that extend, but I know the see each other as a cool person to hang around, they are genmates after all

>>49001722
Patra's leaving?
I know Met went to VSPO, is it possible Patra could transfer elsewhere?

>>49001619
she could buy, in cash, a studio unit condo with that money, sadly she's a Flip teenager. Pretty sure she would rather buy the latest iPhone instead KEK

>>49001722
I thought that was Rirmu from the thumbnail and was wondering if she's genuflected yet to bring back her male fans.

>>49001628
>Can't even comprehend what they themselves posted.
Did someone type it out for you, ESL Nijifag?

VSPO 3D debuts starting this weekend, who are you most excited for?

>>49001619
Id never recommend eien. Phase is much better

>>49001381
We shit on them for pulling this number but debut ccv does have meaning: It show the general interest of the fanbase toward a new gen

>>49001722
just read through previous thread, seems like a problem with her sololive

I don't see the news guy and don't see in the threads, did >we talk about Vspo doing a 3D relay? First one on the 12th, should be pretty big number wise, this tweet is already up to 75k lines in 5 hours.
https://twitter.com/Vspo77/status/1655528452165103618

>>49001722
Upcoming important notice one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUa0gJrp07o
>black text on simple background
You know the drill.

>>49001751
Aqua's and Shion's antis tend to be Nijiniggers so I was thinking that the Zaion/Sayu news was enough to keep them at bay.

>>49001529
We like shit on Tempus a lot but they’re the only headway Cover has gotten in male vtubing in female dominated medium, which Cover has a strong presence in

>>49001790
Ririmu is an fps player so there is no way she is gonna have unicorns. She is sucking male cocks almost every stream.

>>49001802
Ema Ema Ema Ema

>>49001808
wasn't EIEN the one who advertised that the talents keep 100% of their SC donations?

>>49001802
No one but nose will have the highest followed by ema, hinano and the tsuna

>>49001802
no one
i dont watch them

>>49001802
Why are they speedrunning this? They won't catch up to Niji if they don't capitalize on these once in a lifetime streams.

>>49001754
Genmates are not always friends. Koyori isn't friends with Lui, Matsuri isn't friends with Haato, Koyori isn't friends with Lap, Lamy isn't friends with Polka, Koyori isn't friends with Iroha etc

>>49001802
Tsuna, Nose, Ema and Hinano. Don't really care about the rest.

>>49001790
Ririmu? No she will keep shipbaiting with Kou forever
>>49001802
Qpi

>>49001824
Patra leaving 774 LET'S GOOOOOO

>>49001711
That's the thing, thngs being talked for one or two threads is not "drama", that's business as usual.
The Eien thing is a drama alright, which is keeping their thread alight for a couple of days now, similar to VShojo imploding or Phase termination.
Sayu was a drama when she dropped her document and the dramatubers picked it up, but her most recent video was, as well, business as usual.
This Kou thing on Korekore won't last till next thread.

Maybe you have a different and weaker concept of what "drama" is?
Bae commenting on Bettel's Barbie watchalong (and the implication that they would do a watchalong collab) was also discussed in this thread, got enough falseflaggers on Bae's thread and it is as much a drama as the rest of your list
>meaning it's not worthy of the moniker "drama" at all
Same thing for Enna and Kyo shitting up Hex anniversary, discussed in this thread, not worthy the moniker.

If you are going to include everything and anything just don't post it and wait for the big one

>>49001802
Qpi
But, what are they gonna do with 3D though?

>>49001808
PC is 10x harder to get in than idol or eien

>>49001883
>Lamy isn't friends with Polka
This is not true, but I can't dpeak for the rest. Polka and Lamy send nudes to each other.

>>49001876
They have renting a place out

>>49001753
Gura buff

>>49001692
Good thing HoloJP has a lot of other members to keep the box entertained in the meantime

>>49000885
can't wait for those sub 10k tournament numbers.

>>49001751
anon, niggs here posts CP, nothing is off the table for them

>>49001802
Yes, talked about it last 2 threads.
>>49001820
Every single one of them.

And i actually don't know what 3D model they're getting, since some have officially changed their original costume, and others haven't used it in so long that i don't even remember what it was.

>>49000776
hopefully because he gave up after tempus 2 failure.

You someone in this thread brought up the Holocaust and the way it almost destroyed Hololive but i have a question would Nijisanji have able to survive the same thing happening to them

>>49001802
Ive been watching a lot of hinano clips so.

>>49001943
They clearly have events planned for the summer.
July-Aug, Nijisanji might not even finish 2nd.

HoloID > NijiEN
No, I don't care about your "buff content". Trust me, you don't want to go there.

>>49001951
You know what, I would've agreed with you for once, but gen 5 debuted before EN. 2020 Gura was a beast tho

>>49001802
Runa and Sumire SEXXXX

>>49001981
they could survive because no one would care about them

>>49001952
Sure they do, I just am baffled the shitposters haven't "doomposted" their asses off yet.

>>49001802
Nose, in a sense. But truly, I think Hinani's model will benefit the most.

>>49001820
looks like fake engagement
none of the replies have any likes and there is no discussion
lets not even mention their average ccv or vod views
i dont know who those 75K "people" who liked the tweet are but they sure dont care enough to watch streams

>>49001981
Yes, because the ones who play the a lot of different gamees are the low tiers, shitters and mid tier

>>49001971
Like, what's Sumi's base outfit even?
This one?

>>49001883
I feel like you are basing all of these on clips, or worse, rrat 4chan schizo fed you

>>49001971
Tuna is not THAT big

>>49001924
They will probably do some variety and probably some 3D live concert. It brings numbers + you can shill your merch

>>49001981
They will. The foreign fan sentiment will be at all time lows though. Negative trade off is that Hololive will be seen as the EOP group once again.
>implying it always was
For a while NijiEN looked to be well ahead of HoloEN.

>>49001981
>would Nijisanji have able to survive the same thing happening to them
To answer your question, just look at what Nijisanji did when Youtube CORRECTLY banned Mashiro channel for doing gore reaction streams
>they told him to create another channel and kept chugging along
Same thing for when Amicia channel got hacked
>they took their sweet time, days before fixing it

They don't care, as long as it doesn't impact their bottom line their livers can infringe on any copyright, break any rule and do whatever they want and
>if they're valuable, the company will try to clean their fuckups up
>if they aren't, they'll just be left to die

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1655608985058267139

>>49001981
Considering how many of them have been streaming on Twitch without bothering with vods or even clips being enabled, yes.

Hell, Uiha even purged her channel of Vods that weren't big collabs so it didn't look cluttered to new viewers.

They would be fine as long as the Niji main channel has all the big tournaments.

>>49001883
>Koyori hates her genmates
KYS you fucking threadreading faggot

Just woke up from my coma. The fuck is this??? Isn't this his first birthday stream? Plus only 8k USD on SCs?

>>49002112
OH NO NO NO FOLLOWERBOT BROS

>>49002112
>several years
Which relevant vtubers are old enough to even be affected by this

>>49002112
Actual sensible decision damn

>>49002112
Imagine cocos account gets vaporized

>>49002112
RIP in piss Niji organs Twitter numbers.

>notZaion tweet has 3+ mil views
>Phoenix suns owner tweet has less than 3 mil views
Isnt that insane? Doesnt that speak to the reach of vtubers?
The owner of an NBA franchise that is IN THE MIDDLE. Of the playoffs is having a to e drama with Nikola Jokic, a former MVP an one of the biggest stars in the NBA. And that tweet has lower engagement than the tweet from a indie vtuber about a second tier vtubing corpo

>>49002112
fuck... my Asian porn women bot followers!

>Open Moona stream
>You can hear how she's playing
S-sugoi...

>>49002112
Wake me up if Amemori gets removed.

>>49002112
>several years

>>49002165
>>49002163
I'll make a huge leap and assume, when they say "no activity", that they mean accounts that didn't get followed, didn't like anything or made any post and were only used once to follow this or that account.
>subs bots

>>49002072
Probably not but she's 2nd or 3rd.
F cups maybe.

>>48972178
This is late but no you can not use a NDA to hide criminal activity. But be sure it is indeed criminal

>>49002209
I know it’s been a long time since she’s been active but it hasn’t been close to “several” years

>>49002112
>70% of Amelia Watsons followers are from september to december of 2020
Will she be fine?

>>49002112
God bless this man and his team of pajeets

>>49001922
Well if that is the criteria then there is no need for an anchor for drama, because people will have ongoing discussion about. I would say my definition for drama is "any *real* action that is performed by the streamers with *clear and convincing* evidence which result in an ongoing discussion or huge commotion of anons here".

I just post some noteworthy stuff that are discussed in this thread and don't actively look in the catalog for any small one because I knew big ones will end up here. All of the things listed were occupying the anons here as I mentioned. For example people forgot to shit on Mythbreaker's number because of multiple drama dropping. Larger drama has the ability to drown out small ones, which is why it might seem "weaker" that it is. Korekore's one I agree, as the stream is finished now. Basically there is no substance to it so there is no drama.

>>49002275
Yeah it's gonna be nothing then.

>>49001809
ID2 pulled 5K more than ID3 with Kobo, interest in Tempus 2 was actually at least two times lower than debut numbers would indicate since they ended up with half of Tempus 1 subs etc.

>>49002269
Stop shilling your idiotic tweet kfp

>>49002236
>>49002218
>>49002112
It might also lead to dead celebrity accounts being purged.

>>49002269
then he wants a background viewer holostars game? kek

>>49002277
What are the ratios of other members why you specified her

>>49002269
average stars fan

>>49002112
Would be funny if literally every big Holo/Niji suddenly lost a big chunk of followers

>>49001554
Just threw this together from what was obviously him. Same posting style and even making some of the same type of comments he did here.

>>49002112
FUCKING FINALLY. DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AS WELL YOUTUBE.

>>49002202
>Suns
>Nuggets
Both are irrelevant basketball franchise that are still carried to this day by the Nash and Melo legacies. Watch the not win any ring for the next decade

>>49002202
im glad people got exposed to what a black company anykara is
2 week old manager?
no debut help?
blocking access to other staff members?
deez nut joke ban?
the fuck is this?

>>49002202
sportsfans don't give a shit about social media. my dad and I watch women's college volleyball every weekend live and noone there in on their phone

>>49002202
>notZaion ccv 4k
>average NBA playoffs game over 500k
comparing random numbers out of context can lead you to stupid conclusions

>>49002269
I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm but kys regardless

>>49001971
It is weird that Sena is seemingly getting a 3D model based on the newest outfit by Yukisame, which was debuted in July, yet Ramune, who debuted in August, is not part of the 3D debuts (Met is understandable cause she already has her 774 3D model)

https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1655601237172314113
https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1655601237172314113
https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1655601237172314113

Yeah, the amount of shilling this game's getting is weird ...
Even Holocure didn't got this much back then

>>49002269
hello attention whore
now go back

>>49002381
>half of pdp subs gone
damn...

>>49002269
Oh look another kris wannabe

>>49002022
What happened with NijiEN today?
Are they busy with meetings?

>>49002202
Nobody gives a shit about the owners, especially the zoomers most likely to be on social media. I follow a hardcore sports guy and the most he'll ever retweet is a couple funny tweets from the bigger NBA players, maybe something from the main team accounts if it's important news.

>>49000625
This is the way.

>>49002330
one rouge chink at twitter will delete coco's account won't she

>>49002300
>my definition for drama is "any *real* action that is performed by the streamers with *clear and convincing* evidence which result in an ongoing discussion or huge commotion of anons here".
>Well if that is the criteria then there is no need for an anchor for drama
If that's your criteria for "drama" then you're right, there is no need for an anchor for drama.

Think about it: if the only reminder something happened (because nobody else is talking about it) is the "anchor" for drama it is not drama.
Anchor for drama was first posted when people were flooding the thread with
>jwu, qrd on <drama so and so>
and people started asking for it to be posted on the "anchor for news".
>All of the things listed were occupying the anons here as I mentioned.
But they weren't. That's the whole thing.
For some, the only mention in the past few threads was in the "anchor for drama", making it *not drama*.

>>49002269
Anyone who can't notice the discrepancy in font and font size is unironically not old enough to post here. Even the paragraph placement seem off

>>49002430
>Sena is seemingly getting a 3D model based on the newest outfit by Yukisame
That's the best outfit, but i hope they fix her dead, doll ass moving fucking face.

But it is weird to leave out just 1 member like that.

>>49002446
Well its a step up in prodution. IS have the talent voices while HC have only bits songs

>>49002446
They are gunning for the Streetfighter/Tekken sponsorships or at least some Blazblue type future project.

>>49002428
It's sarcasm complaining about people that say the opposite

>>49002498
Content drought. Nijifans only tune in to events.

>>49002523
https://twitter.com/HololiveMemes/status/1655566821381029896

>>49002269
Is he being sarcastic?

>>49002446
i guess they don't want someone to knock their doors

>>49002468
He exist before Kris

reminder that despite being 3-views, Tempus is living the dream

>>49002446
Eh, Holocure hit them by surprise, no one was expecting it to blow up like that and it had many months of updates since.
Here they're catching the wave early on. Since they've seen it's a good enough product.

Kaela did a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH1RosdCqF4

AAAAAAAAAA THERE'S A GUN IN MY OSHI'S HEAD, SHE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT ZA BOIIIS LET HER DO IT

>>49002546
>It's sarcasm complaining about people that say the opposite
Except the game was made by Hololive fans for the Hololive girls, it is not even remotely comparable.

>>49000312
That's just Koyori doing well this month. Mori is getting her usual views it hovers around 10M/month often dipping below that.

>>49002564
Wait it's real wtf
I guess I underestimated this guy stupidity

Azki...you have to work tomorrow...

>>49002498
Hololive in total had a big dead block earlier today too. Golden Week is over which means managers and meetings are probably back.

>>49002269
Can always tell when you appear in the thread when you post your Twitter whos and your ESL garbage, Nijifag.

>>49002498
Suspensions and vacations planning

>>49002430
By that logic, Beni's getting the date outfit for 3D which is weird.
Her base looks like it would move and look at lot better in 3D, especially when kicking.

Do you guys think other First Army manager call them "-sama" too?

>>49002446
Not even remotely true.

>>49002585
reminds me of the nijifamily posts

>>49002269
1 unicorn caused this much of a butthurt on the homobeggars accounts, imagine if they had actual power

>>49002269
Why are KFPiss subhumans like this?

>>49002585
Getting real "I LOVE NIJISANJI!!!!" vibes.

>>49002619
Don't worry sisters, Fauna definitely wants to collab with the males, but those filthy sapcornlings are holding a shotgun to her head. But we can save her!!!

>>49002717

>>49002359
If you dont know you dont know

btw with the Kobo Vod talk i was looking and trying to find out how much less they make than say US or Japan and found this..........

Im afraid we might get more Aussies for EN3 now.........

>>49001504
>>49002269
>>49002619
Same poster btw.

I think Pako really is cursed...
https://twitter.com/pakosun/status/1655465871542980609
https://twitter.com/pakosun/status/1655396433204490241

Idol Showdown about to reach 2k reviews on Steam

>>49002585
I meant, that probably is true. As badly as they might be doing compared to the girls, it definitely still beats being 1-2views indies, not to mention any support they get from Cover, too
Won’t stop me from shitting on them if they cross the line, though. I will just leave them alone as long as they don’t publicly approach my oshi

Holy shit can't believe I was so wrong about Toru. She is the only rock solid one from Idios, both subs and ccv. Sophia is second in subs but her ccv is dwindling. She is ok-ish content wise but she has nothing that can utilize her superb voice.

Also Roco and Nozomi got to 100k almost the same time, with Roco get 1k more due to her endurance stream to get 100k subs, and probably due to her collab with Ange which got her some exposures too. By the way Sophia's collab with Salami got similar effect too. She was almost 15k behind in subs compared to Toru and drifting away, but after the collab the gap was reduced to 12k, now widening again to 13k. It doesn't help her ccv though.

>>49002791
So you dont

>>49002619
>says this when there's 10 literal layers of management autism that even girl on girl collabs are hard to come by
don't they watch streams? they talk about this in the zatsus at the end

>>49002683
Benis's OG is too sexy for youtube pls understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpKBZkrCEnA
GOLD oh god she's not going to reach 5k today is she

>>49002837
Fuck Aussies. Get Canadians instead.

>>49001971
i dont see ramuchi here

>>49002884
Anon, they're homobeggar, they only watch clips

SPEAKING OF IDOL SHOWNDOWN

>>49002884
>don't they watch streams
If they did, the homos would have way higher ccv anon...

>>49002953
Stop posting literal whos

>>49002861
>Taka Radjiman
I think all the graduations have gotten to him.
He's looking for people to saviour.

>>49002875
Nozomi being one of the strongest in Idios CCV-wise but only now reaching 100k is interesting to me

>>49002953
who ?

>>49002521
Nah I still think anchor for drama is fine if there are multiple ones at the same time. There is no need for one if there is only 1 drama at the same timeframe. Also if there are no recent drama there is no need for an anchor for drama for obvious reason.

>>49002311
It correlates to enthusiasm at the time of debut. Yes with good talent acquisitions you can have a gen like ID3 that bucks the trend, but they got there entirely off their own efforts. ID2 didn't give them a lay up

>>49002875
Toru voice is nice so she is good background material (reminds me of Nose). I have her Poke BW stream open now

>>49002619
So true sister! Gura must be playing with da bois daily behind the scenes much to the disappointment of her "fans". But they won't know so it's fine!

>>49002884
Management doesn't care because they have POPULAR DEMAND

>>49001924
sponsors

>>49002998
You now remember that Koyori is only 3rd in subs despite having the best ccv.

>>49002884
>don't they watch streams?
About that,,,

>>49001802
werent they supposed to happen at the start of the year?

>>49002837
that's the top of the barrel content, which is finance. I believe gaming tags is half of that

>>49002022
all are shitters

>>49002621
yeah, didn't know that he would be so dumb, and look at him now...
>inb4 "you get the point"

>>49002619
don't they know that they make channels exclusively for collabs?

>>49003004
>Toru voice is nice
Agree but Sophia's is better.

>>49002884
>don't they watch streams?
As if this fucking thread watch stream ...

>>49002430
Ramune is relatively new so i can understand why hers has to be delayed. i also wouldn't count out Met on getting a 3D "debut" too, she's likely going to get an upgrade that would put it on par with vspo's standards.

>>49002740
he probably is thinking "why stars don't get their own game? the girls already have a lot"

>>49002837

>>49002585
no shit. They get monthly salary aside from their YT revenues and most of all they get free support from Cover to build their own brand. That is what separates other small to mid agencies from Hololive, even the runts can build their own brand.

>>49002875
Introverted, teen, smoker Nose has been the best, yes.

Wish her girlfriend, teen Koyori would get luckier though.

>>49003110
Oh please, sister. Spare us your crappiness and watch the boys instead. They neeed your support

>>49003088
He is unironically someone who argues for mixed gens and every other retarded argument

>>49002884
>don't they watch streams?
No dude, they watch clips as a show of support and if you do more than watch clips or tell people they're not real fans for only watching clips you're a gatekeeping gachikoi and therefore evil

>>49002837
I'm just curious, does YT actually pay per raw VOD views?
I know you can find people, including streamers, talking about that everywhere. On the other hand, I've seen some big streamers and random articles on the Internet actually said that YT doesn't pay per view, but per ad view instead (in other word, a dozen views w/o ad view is worthless) and all the "per view" talks was just to make it simple.
Have always been curious which explanation might be the accurate one

>>49002875
toru is the towa of nijijp

>>49002625
The discrepancy is because he's copying a steam review that got some traction on twitter that was shitting on the homos

>>49003110
this thread is more active than hlgg on JP events

>>49002236
bots are always active

>>49003237
They pay for YT premium per view or watch time or something.

>>49003269
I don't think so. As far as I know she didn't lie to her viewers.

>>49002918
Rimworld can be a great story generator if you know how to play. If not it's just the agony of watching her pawns die to rabid turtles headbutting them

>>49003269
She's not a male anon

>>49003292
Of course it's more active
Half of the thread is spent flinging shit toward EN

>>49003237
well that List is how much ADvertisers pay for the 1000k views. So youtube gets paid for the ads shown and takes 45-55% of the amount, then they give you the rest.

>>49002953
he looks like mr beasts's brother

>>49003347
Lol

>>49003335
Is there any chuuba that has played enough rimworld to get some grasp on how it works?

>>49002953
Sajam isn't really that big anymore because he got blacklisted by Capcom

>>49002837
This is retarded, even if you're an Australian if your content isn't the one with the highest CPM, it's useless

>>49002953
If you are going to post a litral who atleast give some context retard, though it's good if any mid tier content creator plays it it might have a chain reaction

One thing remain true. The easiest way to thrive in the Holobox is being under the wing of a First Army

>>49003409
Eh, I'd say he's one of the biggest EN FGC content creator out there right now (Max doesn't reaaaly count, since he's more of a variety one now)

>>49003498
yeah true but the capcom thing really knee capped his reach

>>49003179
>>49002837
Basically shows why HoloEn is still 30-40% of the total revenue and why ID is still not thought of as being a major contributor to Covers revenue. Honestly I wouldn’t doubt some of the Tempus bois out earning more than a few of the ID girls

>>49002837
CPM differs by channel, it might be higher, it might be lower, sites that show YouTube CPM usually only base them on one single channel.

>>49003304
she doesn't smoke

>>49002918
She will rim that world as well as she rimmed that horse.

>>49003387
Moom from HoloEN
Magni from StarEN

Those are the only one I remember who played the game, and even then, I wouldn't call them "good" at it

>>49002918
well mori on adhd meds but does she have the require autism for rimworld?

>>49003574
The top 10 usually stay the same tho. It’s always Some Euro countries and US, Canada and Australia

>>49002585
This is a deathflag.

>>49003622
I watched Mumei and it was mostly just a suicide run, Marine might have been the closest but she either lost interest or it was only a one off

>>49002311
Kobo's debut had a good a chance of beating ID2 debuts if she wasn't being brutally overlapped by startend
Remember that Zeta actually had the highest ID3 debut numbers since her only significant overlap was with Peko MK

>>49002918
I want to see Kaela get addicted to this game

>>49003545
Based on Kobo's and Millie's YT studio leak Kobo earns twice as much as Millie, so maybe the IDs earn around the same amount as NijiEN girls

It begins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCaLhceXrmg

>>49002359
>What are the ratios of other members why you specified her
That's a fun question to answer, and I'll generalize it as
>what's the percentage of subs in the first four months after debut for each gen debuting after Gen 5 (inclusive)

Answer is in pic related and it shows a very strong correlation between that ratio and how much time passed since debut
>with the newest generations having a higher rate for having less months passed since debut

Pretty much the only "outliers" are

1) Ame
>which has a higher proportion than the next gen to have debuted, ID2
2) IRyS
>which has a higher proportion than every gen that followed her, except for Laplus
3) Kronii
>which has a higher proportion than every following generation except for Chloe, Laplus, Iroha and IRyS

and, on the positive side
>Kobo
whose proportion borders the one for Council, and
>Kaela
likewise
>Anya and Reine
likewise, but Myth instead of Council

>>49003692
It going to be fun to track ID4 debut number with new no overlapping debut and 3D debuts rulle

Since we're talking about CPM and VODs, I have this question in mind for months now, just always forget to ask about it.

Example is Fauna. She streamed for 4hrs with 8k CCV, at the end of her stream, we can see that she already accumulated around 50-70k VOD views. My question is does she get paid for that initial VOD views?

If not, this impacts greatly what we perceive of the chuubas total view revenues. We can't just simply do the usual ''total views multiplied by assumed CPM'' formula.

>>49003818
Well Kobo gets like x10-15 more vod views per stream than Millie so I would hope so

>>49003888
you came late to the party

>>49003888
Posted last thread, here is the spoiler
>only Ollie acknowledged
the rest quicked moved on

>>49003888

>>49003409
Uhhh, Sajam actually got way bigger BECAUSE he got blacklisted by Capcom for complaining about shit netcode. He actually was literal who in terms of being a content creator before that.

>>49002988
>>49002999
>>49003479
Probably top 3 content creator #s in the FGC, at least for regular creators (ie: not Gerald, he uploads once in a literal blue moon). Also yeah, those numbers are genuine top 3 for FGC day-to-day creators, scene's kinda tiny in the grand scheme of things.

If we're talking byproduct numbers though, I'm not sure if it'll do much for Idol Showdown or bring more people into Hololive/Vtubing - if that was really true, there'd be an enormous Ultra Fight Da! Kyanta scene given how often that kusoge shows up on Will it Kill.

>>49003904
Gen5 stronk

>>49003939
>My question is does she get paid for that initial VOD views?
Yes. One view is one view, and Youtube makes no distinction between those given during the stream and on the VOD.
They make it clear when they walk about "watch time", that it refers every view given to a video

ok anons, can someone explain to me why idol showdown has it's own game channel and holocure doesn't?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZDJ0FcvygC6NiCz_E6nK3w/about

>>49003977
>if that was really true, there'd be an enormous Ultra Fight Da! Kyanta scene given how often that kusoge shows up on Will it Kill.
Well, Idk , but at least with Idol Showdown we can see the effect on Steam Chart, consider it's the ONLY platform of distribution, unlike other titles where majority of play are on console

>>49004102
One is on Steam the other isn't

>>49002585
Railing a cute OL like Nodoka every morning and night? That is definitely living the dream.

>>49004123
420 iq answer, thanks.

>>49002730
Technically, I think it's true since they were kinda caught off guard by HoloCure's popularity
Cover seemed much more prepared this time, especially since the Idol Showdown devs must've been in talks with Cover about permission to publish to Steam

>>49004170
i mean, is not the first time a hololive related game is released on steam...

>>49002112
Roa...

>>49002585
The only tempus that might regret it would be Magni, since his roommate is far more popular, though I have no idea whether which of his jobs provides more revenue (assuming he was working full time on one of them)

>>49004207
>several years

>>49004195
The only other one I'm aware of is the FBK fangame that is nowhere near as popular and was published before Cover started becoming super anal about dotting their I's and crossing their T's (it predates the holocaust by half a year)

>>49002619
> not even a clipnigger

reminder that if your oshi wasn't cosplayed here, then she's a failure

>>49002875
I am legit confused about who you are talking about

>>49003904
So what you're saying is that sub growth stagnate a lot faster

>>49004391
35p...

With the way HoloEN's numbers are going, shorting Cover's stock seems like free money.

>>49004391
That Towa is a man... accurate cosplay!

>>49002953
>>49003526
Wait, what's this about Sajam and Crapcom? I'm as casual a fan of fighting games as they come and only watch the world tour tourneys and the big 4 variety tourneys (CEO, Combobreaker, Evo, and EVO Japan). Wtf happened? Him and Tasty Steve are still cool,right? I love those two on commentary so I really don't want them to split because of crapcom shenanigans...

>>49004024
>Gen5 stronk
>>49004445
>So what you're saying is that sub growth stagnate a lot faster
It is clearly proportional to the time passed since debut. It is obvious too, the more time passed, the more time to acrue more subs and offset the first four months.

Here is an attempt to "normalize" that data, and take the ratio in question per the ratio between 4 months and months since debut
>pic related
It shows
>IRyS and Ame
then
>Gura, Ina and Kiara
then
>Kronii and Laplus
with a very "top heavy" set of subs, while
>Koyori and Nene
then
>Zeta, Kaela and Kobo
with a slower start and a late pickup

Of course that's a rough normalization, subs don't evolve linearly but it provides for a crude way to compare and changing the function wouldn't significantly change the relative positions between them

>>49004391
I suppose she's a failure then

>>49004491
anytime now

>>49002112
Should be 5 years

>>49004391
Do indog not know of Marine?

>>49004360
lying whore, she's probably meeting them after work for offpako every time their at the studio

>>49004477
>>48996138
>>48994436
what the hell is wrong with the Niji thread?

>>49004568
Not the own you think it is.

>>49004391
Rushia is there and is a literal failure considering she got herself shitcanned like a retard, so no

>>49004102
So how long until this is sub 1k concurrent players? a week? a month?

>>49004525
Crapcom shenanigans were 2020, and apparently only the esports division was salty about it. Shit's fine now, he's even getting invited to SF6 previews.

>>49004391
>if your oshi wasn't cosplayed here, then she's a fail-
BLOCKS YOUR PATH
>WELLLLLLLLLL?!?!?!
HOW DO YOU GO AROUND THIS ONE?

>>49004633
women

>>49004643
You made me notice that there is a Rushia cosplayer and made me also notice how ugly she is

>>49004633
I unironically hope they do at this point. You bad actors are using Falseeyed as your shield unaware he hates Hololive just as much as Nijiniggers do.

>>49004491

>Kanata and Hime
yonkisei love

>>49004692
blindchama... there's a literal Mori in the middle, with the crown

>>49004734
>anrimayu
Edgy

Nijisanji girls are doing bett-
>JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!
I wonder if she'll renew her contract, her anniversary is coming, no?

>>49004808
Niji is two year contracts

>>49004553
I wonder how much of a difference it would make if instead of 4 months after debut it's only 1 month

>>49004391
Nijis asking for trouble again.

What happened to the tally?

>>49004719
>Hates hololive
Maybe yeah he can try and shit on holo though he will definitely get his channel nuked then also since we advocate for all nijinigger genocide he is just doing gods work, we don't have the horse in the race so it really dosent matter if we support him or not.

>>49004719
Watch his videos
>hololive news
Sunshine and sprinkles of dew
>nijisanji news
Dark clouds and depression

He obviously has it out for Nijisanji. Maybe he hates Hololive too but he isn't tipping his hand yet.

>>49004971
>we