/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

KNEEL

>>48953201
Should've been Botan instead of Ayame.

>>48953201
Why fighting idols? There’s like 2 people that play fighting games in Holo and that’s including Holostars. Most FGC vtubers are indies

>>48953742

>>48953742
botan sex

Add Luna next or Argentina will invade England, kill the king and the first prince and put that american actress in the throne

>>48954513
>like fighting games
>like hololive
seems pretty clear to me

>>48953020
Any Aki tips? Not being able to chain Mukiroze attacks makes me thinks she's more a keep-out character than a combo one, was wondering if I have it right

>>48954513
Indies can be idols, Shimada is an indie and an idol by all means, it checks
Mostly because she was (sort of) ex Tsunderia but the point remains

>>48954667
Forgot my image naaaa

What the fuck is Coco's gameplan?
And what you supposed to do against character with fireballs?
I played a against Sora and all he did was use that beam saber sweep and music note fireball to push me into the corner, and my only options were to either burst or jab out of his pressure or take advantage of the fact that didn't know the range on Coco's fire breath

>>48954513
>Discuss Idol vtubers
but what is an idol?

Someone in NA that's on a wired connection, please play me. I'm fucking tired of fighting random wifi Brazilians who do nothing but mash and jump.

>>48954924
You jump or block the fireballs, your 3c (whatever they call sweep) trades with the fireballs when your close enough and then you can run right next to them.
Beam saber is a little spooky and I don't know that matchup well enough.

>>48954951
Sorry I only got wifi as well

>>48954924
Take Kiara with Coco every time. Use the squat to build meter until you can summon Kiara for the projectile reflect. Against Sora she can't win though. Sora wins for free just by spamming 6M and Coco can't do anything about it.

Botan players are whores

I keep on whiffing Sora's 5M くやしい!

>>48954513
To be fair the people who will be coming here are hard core hololivers and wont give anyone a shadow of a chance unless they are idols

Some of them even refused to come because there were non holo chuubas in the op because of "western whores" and it has to be explained to them that those two were seiso and half japanese

If someone needs a write up on sticks/hitboxes plus various customization options and brands and such, I can do a primer for the uninitiated as I own far too many and spend too much money on it.
Your pal from the /vsj+/ thread

Any chuubas that are actually good at fighting games?
I'm talking they're well versed in fighting game fundamentals which makes them good at any fighting game they pick up. Not someone who just really likes one game and got good at it through grinding.

>>48957258
I've got three sticks of my own with various modifications made to each of them but I haven't been keeping up since I haven't really felt like playing fighting games in well over a year at this point.

What's the backwards compatibility situation looking like with the PS5? I saw that Qanba just came out with their insanely overpriced lineup of PS5 sticks just a bit ago

>>48957553
Mostly indies or literal trannies.

>>48957553
ban_anya is a really solid anime airdasher player.

Currently inactive due to playing too much fightan and getting carpal tunnel

>>48957553
Shimada has kicked my ass repeatedly and Coyo is decent

i created a cheat to that stupid idol fighting game if you guys want

>>48958325
why did you do it if you dont even like it

Have confidence!

Midnight EST, the former Zaion will do a stream, The board will become speed in the likes we never seen before.
Be ready to bump for survival

Is there anything you can do if Ayame hits you? Korone player.

>>48957625
As far as new commercial stuff goes Brook has a new PCB for PS5 on the way, Hori has a couple things in the lineup that are "legacy" or work outright, the FSAlpha more notably. Qanba has some new stuff as you mentioned, but, kinda out of pocket on pricing (I'm guessing the Sony license got real out of hand this cycle). The corpse of Mad Catz is releasing the TE3 which is absolute dogshit: Jasen explains here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs05YGQqEUA

That should get you up to speed on the current state of new sticks

>>48958844
If she has meter, burst before she starts her loops

>>48958844
Wake up baseball bat (idk the notation) worked pretty for well me

I'd almost feel bad for using tick throws if it wasn't used against me today and I learned it just now.
No mercy to the Botan and Ayame players.

>>48957553
Romolla and Remi Celeste are both pro level GG players.

>no Towa
this shit will never get an EVO slot.

>>48960213
why would you feel bad for using tick throws?

>>48960540
I will bet you 50 bucks Towa is in the next release along with pekora

Any bnbs for suisei yet?
Also what does the flash mean you get when you chain specials together?

Just started messing with it, it feels like it has almost no input buffer. Coming from other games it takes a bit to get used to.

I LOVE IDOOOOOOLS

>>48960540
>no sissy femboys to pound after pounding their ass in-game
dead on arrival fighting game might as well just go back to melty blood

>>48954513
From my personal experience, in order for any community in 4chan to not self implode some type of filter is needed to keep the worst elements out, else it just becomes astroturfing and vschizo breeding grounds, these are the lessons from the death of current /wvt/.
/lig/ has the partner barrier, /fig/ seems to have accidentally created the idol one. Leave it that way, there will be plenty of holos playing this game for years to come, which will be enough.
I predict Botan and Watame will stick around at least.
I you want whores you can go to /lig/ they love those there.

>>48958774
Will Nijisanji finally implode? I think se already said anything she was going to say

give me the suisei bnbs

>>48963196
literally anything into launch 22a into literally anything launch into 22b into oki

>>48963196
whatever 2H 22L air 236L, 5H 2H 22M

>my face when I wrote this entire post with ABC and had to go back to change it to LMH

anyone got a picture of all the cosplay 6 colors? Apparently Korone's is an M.Bison reference but I can't really see it.

>>48963421
Oh and technically it's air 236H but you can use any button because reasons.

>>48963464
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2972879657

>>48963365
>>48963421
thanks

also am i actually meant to be able to charge my projectile at all for oki or do i just throw a one-hitter at em unless it's the metered one

>>48963866
>Mitosora
Ah shit, and I had finally talked myself out of trying to play this character

>>48963866
>ouga color fubuki
Interesting

>>48963866
>>48964195
look at the homoniggers exposing themselves in real time

>>48964406
I don't watch homos but even I knew that color was an Ouga reference

>>48963866
>Melody(vshojo)
>No kson
kek

>>48964570
>cosplay 6

>>48954695
Steal tech from the day 1 tournament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Gui9I3g1U

Does this game dox your country if you join a room?
It does if you make it

>>48964406
>both delete their comments
kek homoniggers cant hide from exposing yourself

>>48964406
>doxxing

>>48953742
sex with lion

>>48964785
It displays your region
Should be an issue unless people know you live in somewhere on the continent of North America makes you paranoid

>>48954924
>What the fuck is Coco's gameplan?
retiring

>>48965513
>Should be an issue
*Shouldn't be an issue

>>48965513
a bit
they will know I am a wifi spic

If someone lands 22+ hit combos on me, do I suck or are they just very good? Like should I be getting out of those via teching or something?

>>48953201
Why "global" and not "general"? I understand why /lig/ is global because /indie/ is primarily Japanese Indies only. Is it because the fps thread is primarily Japanese so the distinction needs to be made?

>>48966238
Nah, this is basically an anime fighter. You wouldn't be able to get out without bursting or they drop their combo.

>>48966402
It's because it pisses off beebs

>>48966238
Depends on the character and the resources used honestly. Was it a full resource combo ending in their super? Those usually have a ton of hits. A very basic Sora combo you can pick up in under an hour that ends in super can do over 20 hits at about ~450 damage for example

Are they bouncing you off the ground like a basketball not spending any meter and they get 20+ hits? Yeah those guys are lab monsters who have been practicing optimal combos since the game launched

>>48963939
You can charge it if you cancel the 22B into it or do something fancy like this
https://twitter.com/Slay701/status/1655353426031648770

Anyone NA want to play?

So how do you actually unlock color 5

I haven't seen a single Aki player. Is she unpopular or complicated or what? She doesn't even seem weak, just completely off the radar.

>>48967658
Just form a public lobby, the game doesn't actually have multi user lobbies yet so there's really no benefit to making one here on purpose

>>48964763
>2H wall bounce connects with 5H
>214M hits on the ground
Dayum, guess I'll study this a bit longer, thanks

>>48967743
win 5 matches with that character I think

>>48967760
She's in that midpoint where she isn't easy to pick up like Ayame or korone, but at the same time isn't top tier like botan or korone, so not alot of people main her.

Also yes she's probably the most unpopular character in the roster

>>48967760
Not only is she unpopular in terms of holo she is not exactly a standout in the looks or gameplay department.

>>48968040
>Also yes she's probably the most unpopular character in the roster

how fitting

>>48967937
I trust anons here to not be on wifi more than randoms.

I'm going to stab whoever is responsible for this dashing bullshit for Sora's combos.

>>48968125
I will join your lobby on wifi

but only for one round because im studying

>212 and 232 don't count as 22 inputs
>2367 doesn't count as a 236 input

>>48968406
I will just stick to story mode until I can buy an adapter it's just like 20 bucks

>>48968570
Yea, the input is really fucking strict for modern fighting game standard. Sometimes, I still use the special short cut for this game even if I'm fairly experienced with fighting game.

>>48969212
It's not "modern" fighting game standard, even SFII didn't give a fuck if you had 6 other extra random directions after a special move motion as long as they didn't match up with a higher priority motion.

>>48969212
It's better to be consistent, I'd rather use the S button for Korone's air chainsaw than drop it mid combo.

>EX fireball setups with suisei
alright nevermind this game is fun. it costs meter but note oki never dies.

>>48969337
Well, I started with SFIV and that game has really generous input already. GGxrd actually have slightly more strict input, but still nowhere near as much as idol showdown. I actually have trouble spamming input in idol showdown, which is kinda weird for a game to have such strict input for aa game with input shortcut.

Oh wait it gets better. When I said 232 I meant 2532, but 25352 still counts as a 22 input

>>48969697
Asking out of curiosity, how the heck do you do 25352 and what kind of game uses it?

>>48966238
That means you got outmaneuvered so work on your neutral

>>48970233
Down, neutral, down+forward, neutral, down

>what kind of game uses it?
None, I hope.

>>48968570
>>48969212
Really retarded that it's strict when it comes to shit like that but will still give you completely different shit a la >>48950545

God damn found a disgusting side switch in the corner as Fubuki.
If you can get the B&B (any starter, 5m 5h 2h jh 5h 6h jh) off, by doing the second of the jh quickly (works for the first too, but why would you ever do that), you can side switch and then hit them with a reverse side low to start up the B&B once again.
And the even dirtier part? If they're holding back, you can delay the second jh so they'll tech in the air, and block your second jh so when you land, you'll be swimming in plus frames.

i feel like suisei is gonna end up just using whatever assist has the most superchat bars. she doesn't need a strong assist to extend combos, she needs cancels to charge comets for oki.

feels like a huge difference, having a 3 bar assist and pretty much always having access to at least one bar, vs having a 2 bar assist and having to win multiple exchanges in order to start running setplay as a setplay character.

>>48962601
Actually here is something interesting: lig has a second defense mechanism that wvt lacked: if drama gets too big, schizos go to the catalog instead because it gives more (you)s

There is a nothing burger shitstorm right now because the dev pulled a klaius >>48944896 and this thread didn't give single fuck

>Ayame monkey not only attempts to play with a cancerous 300ms 8f rollback connection but also ragequits when he loses
Pottery

>try to play the game while listening to shimada ASMR
I am kind of falling sleep against my will...

>Page 8
It's over...

You guys were not kidding. I actually finish the virtual frontier buy just spamming Korone's Air Chainsaw.

>>48973854
Anon what the fuck are you talking about

>>48973854
This will be this general first test of SPEED
>>48958774
>>48973743
Perfect storm inc, the catalog will look like the days of the annoying orange spam

Nauman (SF pro level player) grinding Fubuki combos with Roboko assist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUyWE7mL3hI

>>48973959
I when checked this tab I noticed we were on page then before I could finish the captcha 3 niggas suddenly materialized outta thin air

who do I watch to steal a good korosan playstyle from?

>>48974177
This but Sora

>>48974164
all me

Just finished my first arcade and it's with Coco. Spammed snaps and fire breath but Aki was the worst with her projectiles. The AI is omnipotent when it comes to grabs.

>>48974177
Spam Air Chainsaw.
Easy Win

Have the devs explicitly stated no male idols, or can I hold out hope.
The twintail girl summons a cool dude

>>48976351
prob not until all girls are done like what happened with holocure

Can someone handhold my dumb ass? There's a lot of terms I see get used that I have no idea what they're about. Shit like "5L 5M 2M 5H 6H." I looked at the guide that got posted a while back for fighting game terms, but didn't see any explanations.

>>48978019
>5L 5M 2M 5H 6H
imagine the numpad numbers as directions
5 here would be not pushing any direction
2 here would be pushing down on a joy stick
6 would be foward

this aki is gross

>>48978090
then what the fuck do the letters mean
why would you explain one and not the other

>>48978187

>>48978090
Oh no...
I play on KBM...

>>48978187
L = Light Yagmi
M = Medium
H = Heavy
S = Super
C = Collab
B = Burst

Guys, no matter how hard I try, I can't do it. I can't get good at fighting games. I'm a very absent minded person. The most I can manage is maybe memorizing a single combo chain in my head and even that's hard. That's also not taking into account knowing when to execute it and doing it under pressure. What do I do?

>>48978379
Jerk off then come back

>>48978432
It's depression, not horniness.

>>48978506
idk jerking off works for me when im depressed

>>48978208
That's not a problem, I play on keyboard too
The numbers are just an easy way to tell directions, kinda like how people use clock numbers
Using the numpad notation just makes it easier to communicate between many different games and languages

>>48978531
I don't want to be horny anymore.
I just want to be happy.

>>48978379
Learn one short combo. Spam it. Spam it until you can do it without needing to think about it. Spam it until you feel like going into the game and choking your character to put them out of their misery, then do it some more.
Once you get to that point, then you can learn another short combo.
Do this until you realize how much of a waste of time it is because you're gonna get bodied by a button masher and find a different game genre to enjoy.

>>48978590
>he wants to playing a fighting game
>and be happy
dyrb

Is there any difference between pressing special button and doing spinny light attacks? Besides that the spinny gives you supacha.

So how's the standard big boy combo damage in this game? I need to know because this shit will 100% be in the next will it kill

>>48978090
We divide this thread into two groups; the ones who know how to play fighting games and the ones who dont
Every poster will have a mentor who masters the same characters and the teachers shall compete for whose student has made the most progress
Also for the purposes of my head you will all be cute girls while at it
Watch my job is Yuri
that is all

>>48978379
Keep labbing that one combo you have, take note of the distances you can do that combo and how others react to it. Lots of pros have made a living only knowing one and making a gameplan around it.

>>48978868
Then teach me suisei fag

I don't recognize most of the skins am I blind?
which are the ones in first sets?
I want to see which vtubers wont show up in the next DLC

>>48978868
I agree with >>48978913 . I will join the Suisei Dojo.

728000FA

NA lobby

>>48978913
>>48978977

Sorry I am in the kouhai side I need someone to teach me Aki

>>48978856
It's kinda funky and uneven
Like you got Ayame who can do a 10 hit combo for 15~% HP and then you have Botan who can hit a 64 hit for like 50% HP

>>48974143
For those not familiar with his body of work as an idol
https://youtu.be/51gej_zjfY8

>>48979095
so you're telling me combos dealing 60% isn't that weird in this game?

>>48978963
shameless stolen from /v/
azki colors for sora
kiryu kazama for coco

Mmm feels good to be doing wallbounce into groundbounce into wallbounce combos.

>>48979205
With full meter and bar, in most games you'll probably do 50-75 percent if you don't mess up and the opponent doesn't burst.

>>48979057
GGs Sui-chan

>>48979057
ggs
gomen I don't know how to fighting game

>>48979536
If you're a beginner then you did really well. Seemed like you had a sense of what was going on in the match.
The Suisei vs Sora matchup is also just really fucking awful for Suisei, hope they buff her soon.

>>48979281
Nice pic for ants bro

>>48979281
Don't you mean you stole this from some ants?

>>48979281
Anonchama pls, my old eyes aren't as good as they used to be

>>48979738
>Seemed like you had a sense of what was going on in the match
I only know is you had something that I had to block with hover head, but my natural instinct is to crouch block for some reason lol. But it was fun, sorry for only doing 3 games as my name said im tired.

>>48980044
No worries about that, I thought you were going to go after the first game so thanks for continuing on for a bit. Get some good rest good sir

Does anyone want to bully me? I can't do a single combo, so you're gonna kick my ass if you're even half decent.

40386DDA

>>48979281
>>48979798
>>48979800
>>48979959
no bully pls

>Spent my weekend playing this game instead of doing what I needed to do
I didn't think I'd get this addicted.

>Sui L>M>H doesn't combo on crouching
What in the almighty

You ever had such good ping in a match that it registered in the fucking negatives? My connection's so damn good that it can predict the future.

it's my first fighting game and for now I'm having fun learning combos
how is the game from the perspective of someone that plays a lot of fighting games aside from the vtuber look? bad or well made?

>>48980851
完成身勝手

>>48978187
You skipped the tutorial didn't you

>>48980911
I have some gripes, but it's surprisingly solid. It could be better but it's still enjoyable.

when are we stereotyping each character's player group all I know is ayame = spic

>>48953201
Puto el que usa Ayame.

>>48980233
Ayame's is maybe Kagura Nana?

>>48981157
I love Ayame.

>>48980911
It's okay, but a bit janky. It's pretty straight forward in many aspect.
The command input is a bit annoying as well, as discussed here.

>>48978379
Play Ayame, she is just unga bunga fun and you can play the single player, it has autocombos.

>>48980911
I play a lot of tekken and some strive and this game feels very competently made. My biggest problem with this game is that the defensive options are pretty bad. You have burst and the just block but that is not enough to deal with how good offense is in this game. if there was a block that pushed your opponent or maybe a parry like sf3 where you are rewarded meter and better frames for good reads then I think the game would be better.

>Sora's 236 note isn't canceled out by other projectiles
wat
>wakeup DP her and get hit by 214 note
hurr durr

Why couldn't they fucking design this character properly instead of relying on dumb shit to carry her.

Unmitigable normal chip deaths are a peak kusoge mechanic, also. 90% of the time I benefit from it but who in the fuck would ever think you should have that in your game, let alone a game with ridiculous corner block strings.

>>48981836
Normal chip is really weird, I agree. I think the last game I played that had it was the Umineko fighting game. One other weird thing I noticed is that for some reason, Fubuki's projectile beats Coco's 22S, but only online. When I do it offline, you walk through the projectile. But online, the projectile always wins. I don't get why.

>>48981923
I just assumed it was one of those things brought from SFV for no reason like corner cross-ups but at least when they put in that meme in SFV it was 1) recoverable health, and 2) only possible to chip people out with supers, which is fucking annoying but more or less necessary.

>>48981748
>it has autocombos
I seem to do worse when trying to use autocombos.

>>48982175
Yeah, I get what you mean. Thinking about it, recoverable health would be nice. Not just because of chip normals, but because armor moves feel really shitty. Even if you armor through something, you still take the full damage. But maybe I find it more annoying because the armor is inconsistent and generally unrewarding in this game.

>>48982304
Like it's even crazier when you consider how few invincible reversals there even are in this game so checkmating people is so fucking easy.

>>48982369
It depends on the character it feels like, as well as your assist. Suisei and Sora are probably the worst offenders because Suisei has ridiculous oki and Sora can just poke at you forever from halfscreen and leave you trapped in the corner forever, but at least Suisei's neutral is kind of bad. Sora doesn't have that problem.

>>48982627
Korone can definitely corner people all day, and Fubuki and Ayame both have long as fuck block strings, I think it's basically the nature of the game.

It's probably just me, but i wanna see TASers like Dark Noob or M. Bizaroo do a TAS superplay of this game.
https://youtu.be/zWNuAl5eK5c

>>48983066
Well, maybe I haven't seen them enough yet. I've gone through some with Ayame, but it's mainly using lights and whatnot to frame trap people. That said, one thing I found odd. In a few Suisei blockstrings, I mashed 2H against her and it cleanly beat some attacks. It wasn't even the slow axe overhead either, it was just regular normals. I don't know what that was about.

>>48983198
From how late I was getting hit by Sora's I have to think 2H's have some form of invulnerability, and I can certainly see at the very least Suisei's 6H counting as airborne or even the dab losing to something with upper body invulnerability. It would be like mashing the motherfuck out of 6P defensively in Strive.

>>48981836
Sora's note gains more hits the further it travels. When it becomes 2 hits total it will go through single-hit projectiles.

Getting hit by the note after DP is fine as long as it gets Sora off of you. Better than eating the setplay combo.

I think I might have to take a break. I'm projecting some of my frustrations about the game on the girls.

>>48984545
This attack confuses me. For some reason, it's not overhead, but it also has a billion years of hitstun and blockstun.

>>48953201
Sorry, I can't resist her...

>>48985085
Don't let the crybabies deter you, feed on their tears and grow even stronger.

>>48960540
What kind of gameplay would Towa have?

>>48986132
Being a fat fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFs4530_7J0
marine playing idol showdown

>>48986295
Your mom's named Towa?

>>48986402
I wish

are the girls that played the game at least somewhat competent?

>>48982304
NTA, but in general I have issues online that I don't have offline (even in singleplayer modes) just to make sure it isn't just because I'm in training mode.

>>48986449
Probably not by the standards of the nerds here. Mori seemed to understand some of the basic mechanics when she was teaching Kiara. she's probably /here//

>>48977062
>all
it's not official, so 'all' could be the next 3. They might just omit the ones they don't personally like

We ded

>>48988236
RESURRECTION

What you guys prefer, Man or Woman announcer?

>Suisei right of the bat
Yeah, Marine is going to get bodied

>>48988856
Never switched from the default but she's cute enough

>>48988856
switched to man because he just sounds like a discount skullgirls announcer

finally found a punish for botan's 2H as coco after playing pure footsies with a pub botan for 30 mins
the second you see the block from 2H you mash 5M

Ran into a bug where I assume a rollback happens after the win screen tries to show up making me unable to do any inputs.

>>48989516
happened to bae onstream, rip

>>48989574
Still won the BO5 at least.

>>48988236
Make some OC, this thread has none
Does any of you know how to draw?

>>48990422
>Expecting fighting game players to draw
dyrbi
You have a better chance asking smashers

>>48986449
If you wanted competency in games you should look outside of hololive

Why the fuck does this button low profile, pulls her hurtbox back AND anti airs?

> First time playing the game
> Tutorial: Superchats
How the fuck do I do the superchat cancel move on a keyboard I'm stupid

Any advice for Suisei neutral? Feels like air axe and pray, most of her buttons seem outclassed by the cast. Also, i wish I could turn on DP inputs instead of this downdown thing

>>48991438
Fuck 22 inputs.
The only button that Suisei has in the neutral that is worth a damn is 2M. Don't even bother pressing anything else.

>>48991418
just do another special in the middle of a special animation while having enough superchat meter, for example, you can cancel ayame's light dp to medium to heavy dp if you have enough meter

I'm not good with fighting games but I tried idol showdown yesterday and had a lot of fun, what's some basic advice with ayame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6HOGX38Mdc
I feel like a lot of people including myself are downplaying Suisei, on paper she is kinda nasty.

>>48991353
She needs it.

Noel as a fighting game character
https://files.catbox.moe/8psnon.gif

>>48991934
L>M>H>2H>22L or 2S>L>2H>83M
Pretty basic combo there

>>48992393
Now do one where she isn't within kissing distance.

>>48992393
5M is +5? This character is a menace.

> botan lose pose
somebody on that dev team must have a real hard on for botan

>>48980851
>My connection's so damn good that it can predict the future.
That's literally how rollback netcode works

>>48991438
2M into light axe. 22L spin into them to close distance can catch people off guard too, but don't use this too much.

>>48986449
Pekora can do strings

Sion colors, nice.

>>48991438
236L is your go-to poke. Gets you in, gives you a turn on block, gives you a combo on hit. Otherwise, fly around like a madman doing your air special, you can get some pretty weird movement out of it to trip people up. You can also hail mary into them with 236M if they’re playing particularly defensively but it can get you punished.

>>48995523
>made it into Idol Shodown before MBTL
Poor Sion

>>48994592
It's +5 on stand block
It's minus on crouch block iirc, assuming it didn't whiff.

>>48995856
>gives you a turn on block
It's minus on block isn't it?

>>48990857
I knew one guy in ggg who liked vtubers who knew how to draw...
rib friend, you were a modern icarus, flew too close to the sun

who do you guys think the other three characters are going to be? I think one will be Gura. I assume all characters who already appear as assists or cosplays are off the table, which means no Poruka :(

>>48998510
This except the ones with red Xs because they have skins

>>48998702
there are skins for subaru and watame.

>>48999067
fixed

>>48999226
There are skins for Flare and Towa too, albeit using their secondary costume colors

>>48999587
fixed further
So the candidates are Noel, Laplus or Anya
It is unlikely they will release Gura and pekora in the same batch

>>48994371
Apparently you can continue the string with 22H after some testing, so here's my new string:
L>M>H>2H>22L or 2S>L>2H>83M>22H>8H>214L or S, combo ends at face to face situation

>>48998510
>I assume all characters who already appear as assists or cosplays are off the table
Assists I get, but I don't know why you'd make that assumption, at least for the cosplays, especially since doesn't Ayame have a Fubuki coloring? Honestly it's probably better to look at what archetypes are missing and who would slot into those well. But that's just me.

You guys think they'll have IS tourneys in the Holofes bathrooms next year?

>>49000390
That's Iroha

Do you guys wanna see the girls organize a tournament around this game?
It is for sure going to be a shit show though. It will make the Marine Puyo whining seems tame in comparison.
Someone will try ever so slightly harder than the rest and absolutely mop the floor with the rest.

>>48997461
>13 frame disparity according to mizuumi
now we are playing kusoge

>>49000917
>Do you guys wanna see the girls organize a tournament around this game?
Yeah, Calli had some ideas on how to make it better suited for beginner players but I forgot the details.

I am sure she will iron out the kinks while organizing it

>>49001028
roru

i kinda wish the devs had the backbone to not change the sounds... i understand they got attention from the girls and so immediately added those clips, but it's way funnier and more soulful when it was grabbed from random streams

>>49001454 (me)
went full retard and unintentionally replied

>>49001465
The queens demand it

Someone is beating highly skilled Aki with Suisei really hard

>>49000393
I wouldnt be surprised if its an official event

>>49001465
Yeah. I felt that part of the charm was the mishmash-ed audio from streams. When Botan first requested it, I knew the rest would follow suit. I kinda wish they made a toggle for the voicelines.

>>4900097
>Someone will try ever so slightly harder
Mario Kart champion baby

>>49002249
Could always just make a discussion post on steam to see if you can get the devs to reconsider and add a toggle or have a large following and beg for it on Twitter

>>49002519
When all the girls rerecord their lines it might an option

>>49001465
>it's way funnier and more soulful when it was grabbed from random streams
I disagree
>i kinda wish the devs had the backbone to not change the sounds
they didn't have a choice. can you imagine if someone put you in a video game but then told you to kick rocks when you offered to voice act yourself? honestly they were probably thrilled that the girls wanted to get involved.

>>48995018
It has rollback? Gotta be the reason why part of the disgruntled fgc are mad, cause it's already better than their games at something basic

Watching Moona play now. What is it with newbies and button mashing?
I'm not shit talking, just genuinely curious. What do they expect out of a string of random inputs and why do they think it would work?
You don't see new fps players randomly clicking around and spamming wasd, or new moba players going ham.

>>49002896
The game is free and it has rollback and it's actually good.
No wonder everyone is seething.

>>49003283
>What do they expect out of a string of random inputs and why do they think it would work?
most people don't have the patience to practice combos in training mode for hours.

New botan player here, this is my first fighting game (I played melee before this but you know...)
I see some people starting off combo strings with 5L>2L, isn't that suboptimal because you're wasting your damage scaling?

>>49003283
Actually I think a lot of ability based games people button mash in at the start.

>>49003395
yes.
but if your opponent blocks a H button or Special Move up close from Botan, they can easily beat the shit out of you for it. so ideally you'd press something like 2L 5L 5M and see if they are blocking before continuing the combo.
In the infil glossary this is "hit confirming"

>>49003395
Yea, but you need to beat your opponent in the first place with a fast button to even get a combo of them.

>>49003597
>>49003653
gotcha, so mechanically incorporating that is "realistically optimal" because it lets you pressure blocking high and low and also gives you time to know whether to commit to the expensive moves. thanks

>>49003395
>I played melee before this
what is it like being a pedophile

>>49003283
>don't know what button combinations do
>mash everything
>stop mashing what doesn't work
It's the fun way of learning a fighting game

>>49003812
no idea what you mean kek

>>49003369
This isn't about combos though. When you can't hit a bulleyes by flinging a dart, you slowdown to aim. When you can't play a coherent melody on a piano you slowdown the pace to play something easier.
But why when it comes to fighting games, they intuitively think the solution is to mash HARDER.
>>49003563
Really? I can't think of any other genres where people at this way. Granted I don't interact with normies much.

Any Aki main here? Found this bnb but I lack ideas for an ender after the 2H launcher, feels like there's more to do here https://streamable.com/4klmqg

>>49003283
>>49004032
It's because of hitstun and not knowing the controls. You get hit and you can't do anything, so people want to do something the first possible instant. They mash when they get a hit in because they don't have any combo muscle memory yet.

>>49003283
Press buttons to make damage happen. Press buttons faster to make more damage.

>>49003283
>>49003563
Yeah if you put a child or someone who doesn't know how to swim in deep water they'll probably flail around and drown, which would be the equivalent to button mashing your arms and legs. Same with many different first times.

The difference between an FPS game and a FG is how far can you get by just spamming the controls provided to you.
On an FPS you'll just move the camera around and stand in place most likely never scoring a hit, so people have to start learning how to actually shoot and move. (Two bad people against each other will never get anywhere button mashing on a FPS)
Meanwhile on average FGs you can button mash and still end up with a win if its a similarly skilled oponent.
So in the end it works and people don't have a need to start learning, at least not until they hit a wall. (Two bad people can play for years button mashing on a FG)

>>49004032
>why do normies to this???
>no, I won't talk to one LOL

What do you guys think about my oshi's VA for the game
https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1655521614392590338

anyone want to help me learn how to fighting game?
7E55DD16
JP/TW region

>Gets excited about doing a simple combo on Botan
>Immediately learns what happens when you get in her face
Poor Zeta

>>49004493
same

>>49004652
poruka is amazing as always

>>49004652
She'd probably make for a good Mix-up, but I doubt we see her any time soon

>>49004493
Based

>>49004652
thats my oshi~
if she wasn't planned already, it'd be a loooong time yet though. fighting game characters, especially as sprites, is fucking hard.
the people making the platform fighter with 3d models are probably going to have an easier time making a large cast.

>>49005102
>the people making the platform fighter with 3d models are probably going to have an easier time making a large cast.
That's obvious because they just using public MMDs models

All day I've been destroying people with Korone and Miko. Korone has good corner carry and both of Miko's assists are insane once someone is trapped there.
But honestly I need better opponents, I mostly just fight Ayames who don't block. I haven't fought a single Botan which is surprising to me with how everyone is talking about how strong she is.

>>49005339
>I haven't fought a single Botan
Double tap U when you goto the search menu then click on any RU lobby

>>48967760
The only Aki's I've fought were insane she seems pretty good to me so I don't know, just unpopular I guess.
>>48981823
I thought this would be a baby game but offense being so good while defense isn't right now makes me think otherwise. You really have to make the right moves to get out of getting shit on which is more unforgiving than I expected.

>>49005102
It's the shame of fans spending all their time pushing their random favorites in a game rather than concentrating on the girls who will actually support their game. They probably long ago dismissed as irrelevant the girls now excitedly recording lines for them because their tastes are stuck years in the past when they had the idea to make the game.

>>49002896
Rollback is the bare minimum for a fighting game in 2023. GGPO is open source, there is no excuse. In the end it's all about implementation. Street Fighter V and Tekken 7 both technically use rollback, but it fucking sucks

>>49005801
I mean I'd be surprised if someone put the time into making a game, released it for free, and didn't put their favorites in. If you're not making money you've gotta make your time worth somehow.

>>49004085
not an aki main, but instead of 2M 2H at the end, do 5H or 2M 5H to continue the combo
might have to slightly walk forward for the 5H to hit

>>49000051
Do you think the songs may be clues on who is added next? Since a remix of Red is in, first thing that came to my mind after Pekora is Mori and an Underworld stage. The only other references to her is a movie poster I think, and would make for a fun zoner

>>49006047
Well, the people who have a favorite would normally make the games focused on their favorites as in not be branded on the Hololive name generally. There's lots of minor fan games but the big ones ride on the idea that they are meant to represent all of Hololive. So it's a little weirder when they dedicate more resources to past members than active ones.

>>49006274
Mori is also very likely considering she plays fighting games but I am willing to be EN will debut in a theme group by themselves of Gura Ina and Mori in KOF styled team

If any devs are here do this my idea is better

1 AM Stream IKZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZzwDgA5BvM

>>49006629
Thanks, wish people posted the holo links this place needs the bumps and youtube alerts sucks ass

>>48997856
It seems to follow the classic fighting game rule of it's plus if it's done against me but minus if I use it.

>>49004652
I'm conflicted about the way the girls are interacting with the game. On one hand it's cute and wholesome to show direct appreciation to the Devs and providing VA. But as >>49005102 mentioned, fighting games are difficult games to make. This is no Holocure.
Not only are they adding needless dev time by updating voicelines for already playable characters, they are also pressuring the Dev's to include them when they might not even be in consideration yet.
Even getting all of the JP girls playable might be an unrealistic ask.

>>49006964
It is very very likely they have most of the roster ready anyway and they are just dripping it slowly
How many characters did that fucking pony game had at launch

>>49006964
If they genuinely only had the bare bones group ready now with no intentions of adding more soon, they were fucking retarded. No need to simp for them because they are getting free attention. It's not like there will be any negative effect when they don't use any of the material. Someone else may just use it for their game someday.

>>48968069
>not exactly a standout in the looks or gameplay department.
You're crazy. Aki is being slept on. Good Aki can make people go insane.

>>49006123
thanks anon, works nice https://streamable.com/ui8xfy
now I just need to find a proper ender to get oki, I'll do that tomorrow

Do these devs have a Patreon or something? I couldn't find a way to support them.

>>49006964
can't say I liked what Sora or Botan had done, though Botan's original voice lines were a little bit weak compared to the other characters. But there's nothing wrong with the talents providing VA for the game before they're in the game. It actually saves devs time

>>49007340
>Do these devs have a Patreon or something? I couldn't find a way to support them.
According to the guidelines they can't receive money for working in this. It's weird because in Japan artists sell material goods all the time and they usually have fanbox or other subscriptions. Maybe it's because they're japanese

>>49007390
>they can't receive money for working in this
Sad, hopefully cover buys them out or something to make another game.

>>49007080
>very very likely they have most of the roster ready anyway and they are just dripping it slowly
I heard this game took 2 years. If that's true. No fucking shot that is the case. The 8 at launch is likely all they have. In fact 8 is a lot more than you would expect for a fan fighting game developed in a couple years.
>How many characters did that fucking pony game had at launch
TFH? like 6?
>>49007212
>bare bones
It's a free fan game lmao, they can leave the game as it is and they would have done plenty more for the community then you ever will.
No one is simping for them, I'm just realistic about fighting game development. You sound like the people crying about fighting games launching with 12 characters. Go play smash if you expect a million characters.

>>49004652
Polka is so cool. I'm glad she's in hololive.

>>49000393
It's a tradition...

>>49003283
https://youtu.be/_R0hbe8HZj0

>>49003812
No melee players are just drunk old dudes with crippling hand pain
Brawl and after are where the pedos exist

https://twitter.com/RemiCeleste/status/1655565631029403648
It's beginning, the end of fun is beginning.

>they gave everyone face down KO sprites just for cocos tail plug

>>49007544
>Sad, hopefully cover buys them out or something
that would be the smart thing to do, so it will not happen.

>>49007212
A commercial game like SFIII took 2 years to add 5 actually new characters that weren't head/palette swaps, and that's with clear evidence one of them was half finished when New Generation was released. BlazBlue similarly added characters at a rate of about 2 per year.

>>49007619
The random logs of wood get me every time

>>49001465
What they should do is have voicelines be random for moves like other FGs. Usually the same voiceline doesn't play 100% of the time.

>>49007726
I would enter but unfortunately Zelda comes out Friday.

>>49007726
>winning a ticket for a hololive event by winning a fighting game tournament
This happening was not in my 2023 bingo card

>>49007544
>cover buys them out or something to make another game
Unless they know how to make an ARK clone to sell NFTs, that's unlikelly to happen

>>49004938
I could definitely see her play like Faust or Platinum

>>49007887
They've always had at least 2 clips for most stuff. Sora actually sounds stupid when she calls A-chan multiple times now because it alternates between some random no context clip they found and the enthusiastic one she recorded.

>>49007777
Assists can be added with ease and that is enough

>>49007726
Whens our tournament /fig/?

What Assist should I use with Sora? I've just been using Mio since I'm mostly playing keep out. I don't actually even know start Mio's tarot cards are doing.

>>49007777
correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they have to release new versions of the game for updates in arcades instead of just adding them with a patch?

>>49007968
Fuck'em up anon you got this

>>49008293
All that meant was releasing shit in chunks instead of drip feeding it. By the ass end of BlazBlue they could update arcades remotely though but the business model remained charging operators for a new version if you were adding new content until Nesica x Live flooded everything.

>>49005801
ehh, I don't really agree. It's sure nice when the games get the bump from the girl's themselves playing on stream and supporting it. you can definitely go out and make a game on purpose that is for the streamers, there is a whole thing of shitpost 3d platformers made in the frustrating, Boshy style that were made for Twitch streamers to rage at.
it's a passion project from fans, they can make it how they want, and furthermore 2d vs fightan is a very specific genre whose staying power is going to come from fans of the genre and not really, i expect, the Holo talent themselves.

HoloCure probably hit an absolutely perfect place where it was a FOTM, simple genre anyone can enjoy, and simple enough design-wise they could be reactive to the overwhelming Holo talent support it got too. Showdown is not so much in that place.

>>49008255
Well at this rate never

Anything you guys want added to the next op?

>>49009243
yeah can I get your contact info baker-kun

>>49009243
tigers needs another (embed) tag

>>49009367
an idol must never get together with a man even if we are both boys
>>49009375
it's a lig reference

Page 10, board is kind of fast today too huh
Bread then

>>49009816
>>49009816
>>49009816
>>49009816

>>48997856
just don't be a coward