/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

botan sex

>>48919090
fpbp

anyone has tips for coco on the botan matchup?
it feels impossible to punish 5H > 2H with any of your normals

>>48919127
her voice is so hot in this game

>>48919199
>anyone has tips for coco
Pick another character.
Unironically one of the worst feeling grapplers I've had the displeasure to play.

is anyone else using botan's rainmaker as a fake crossup? it's a pretty good especially if you cancel it from a cross up.

>>48919199
I just had a match were I was Botan fighitng a Coco, then we surprising switched and I was Coco while they played Botan. I won both times.
Reminder, Botan cannot handle getting pressured. She needs meter to get out of it, so stay close enough in her face so that she's forced to do her faster normals so she can't build meter to escape you easily.
That arc dragon can tank some hits so anytime Botan wants to "poi" or sniper you lower, it's dragon time.
Also your heavy kick is great midrange and remember to set Botan on fire to knock her down to either get closer or to get a AsaCoco plug in her asshole.
The Lion Bleeds, but you can't let up on her, being defensive is not really an options because she will eventually build enough meter to out damage you or escape in her shopping cart.
Alternatively, see >>48919311 if you want the easy way out. I'd say pick Korone and Ayame because I have trouble against them.

Add Luna next or Argie lunaitos will burn Argentina down in a fiery riot and you will have no pears on plastic containers anymore

>>48918946
>and discuss idol vtubers
But what is an idol?

>>48919932
Will the Argie Lunaitos promise to not use favela wifi?

stop fucking trying to match with korone if you live on the other side of the world

>sora playing with her character on stream
>guy in chat says
>"they did her dirty this game, hope she gets a buff"

This guy can't be serious, or he didn't fight against someone who knows how to play Sora.

>>48920090
No

Ayame players are whores

>>48920849
I guess I should've expected nothing less...

>>48920974
Imagine having to go online and see that 90% of the playerbase are Ayame mains

I would rather stay on training mode

>>48920491
Fuck you this is the closest I will ever be from her you wont take this away from me

Please some one help me figure out sora. When you have someone out she feels great, but as soon as someone in it feels like there's no escape. Ayame in piticular appears to have a string into her overhead dive thing that's fucking PLUS ON BLOCK that then either let's her continue doing the same string or go for a grab, and sora doesn't have a fast enough normal to interrupt. Plz someone help.
Also some actual combo routes would be nice.

Reminder that people said no JP will play this game because there are holostars and coco in it. Lmao.

>>48920974
based
KILL ALL AYAME PLAYERS DROPKICK AYAME PLAYERS OFF A BUILDING ABORT AYAME PLAYER BABIES CURBSTOMP AYAME PLAYERS SHIT IN AN AYAME PLAYER'S MOUTH FUCK AN AYAME PLAYER'S MOTHER ON STREAM BLACKMAIL AYAME PLAYERS TO GIVE YOU ALL THEIR WAGES MAKE DEALS WITH THE DEVIL TO GIVE YOU THE STRENGTH TO GENOCIDE ALL AYAME PLAYERS SPINNING BACK HOOK KICK YOUNG AYAME PLAYERS STILL DRAGON DILDOS INSIDE OF AYAME PLAYER'S ASSHOLES BREAK ALL AYAME PLAYER'S PHONES CONVINCE AYAME HERSELF TO BULLY AYAME PLAYERS BY FINDING A HUSBAND AND STREAMING THE ANNOUNCEMENT

>>48921152
Don't acknowledge them Anon, they will never admit they're wrong.

>>48921092
I'm not really experienced in fighting games, but the Heavy has a slight delay after it hits that allows you to throw a Light punch while crouching. Sora can Combo after that with L + M + H + Down H + Double Special + Dash into another L + M + H combo with possibly a special in it.

But indeed, dealing with both Ayame and Suisei is a pain in the ass for Sora mains.

Korone singing mikoboat is melting my heart

Have the devs announced any future characters?

>>48922043
3 more to come with a pekora laugh in the launch trailer.

Sora so stressed its adorable

>>48922371
Developers are Anyaposters for sure I got a man on the inside next is Anya and Hitomi Chris

>>48919311
but coco is the best character to correct those cheeky pub ayames
it's funny when you see them stop bunga'ing when you punish their shitty approach for the 5th time

>stuck on attempting to connect to an opponent
rip

>>48922679
>Anya and Hitomi Chris
but they are one in the same

>>48922829
>>48920849

>>48922776
they autopilot their combo so hard they just kept hitting the dino even when they know they should back off, also antiair grab for those youmu wannabes j5h

Just started, Played about 5 hrs or so. Is it just me or does Suisei suck? Or at the very least a hard character to play?

It would be so cool if Sora actually picked up on this game and maybe other fighting games, and I mean seriously training combos and shit. Will she continue to play this game after this stream?

>>48923185
Suisei is a hyperagressive combo character. She excels on air mobility and has some disgusting combos from overheads. I would say she's a better Ayame.

On the second day I got my ass beat by a Suisei main more than 10 times, couldn't even breathe and the best I could do against him was 50% of his life. He was miles better than the Hard difficulty AI Suisei from the game.

lots of very cute newbies in the thread lately here to play their oshi and ask cute dumb questions…

>>48923388
Aren't anons cutest when they're dumb?

>>48923388
yes, me

How do I stop getting angry when I lose I think I discovered I have rage problems

>>48923483
yes!

>>48923485
stop tying your personal self worth to your performance in a game, and stop setting your goal as “win games” when your goal SHOULD be “get better.”

you can get smashed 10-0 but if you landed that combo you’ve been practicing, or hit an anti air you’ve been trying to hit, or even just learned things about your or your opponent’s character that you didn’t know, then you’ve succeeded.

Anyone has a full save?
I cant beat story with Coco

>>48923719
git gud

>>48923735
I just want more colors

>>48923767
earn them

>>48923485
Anon, you never lose, you always gain something
Keep playing with cracked people that you will find yourself being cracked if you actually take your time to learn and counter whatever your opponent is throwing at you. If you ever find someone who you can't do anything against, play against them over and over again until you can get, at least, one stock from them, then you will know you are getting a lot better.

Also, why are you getting angry by losing in a game that was released yesterday?

Korone main bros, how can I cheese this game by playing Korone? I just want to clear Arcade mode and Virtual Frontier so I that I can get those skins.

I forgot how cute Sora was I should watch jps again

>>48924129
Air chainsaw

>>48924116
two days ago*

Although it still feels like yesterday

>>48924116
>Also, why are you getting angry by losing in a game that was released yesterday?

How am I supposed to figure out combos?
I know every move in the movelist and yet I can barely figure out how to get a combo going, meanwhile I go online and get perfected by a chain of combos
I can't even begin to figure out how to replicate these

>>48923485
see >>48918946
>>How do I git good
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm9IECEnKHQ

>>48923317
Combo character? You mean rushdown? She doesn't seems noticeably faster or more mobile that most characters to be rushdown.
It seems like she needs to spend meter for anything decent. Meanwhile botan does 1/4 off stray hits.
And her normals are so trash, I feel like I'm playing a SFV character in a game of SamSho.
You need to be in their face for anything to connect.
She has setplay elements but the fireball seems useless unless charged.
She is Menat without the range and Millia without the speed. What is her game plan?

>>48924366
>that image
link to stream or clip?

>>48924526
You need to figure out which moves cancel into which, in this game as a general rule you can cancel lights into mediums into heavies into specials into supers.

>>48924659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kboUkAQ8UDk

>>48924526
>Lights chain into Medium which chain into Heavys.
>Standing attacks chain into crouching attacks; the opposite is also true.
>Lights, Mediums and Heavys can all be chained into special moves.
>Certain special moves chain back into normal attacks (usually Light attacks)
>Technically, everyone in this game has a universal combo of along the lines of Standing Light > Crouching Light > Standing Medium > Crouching Medium > Standing Heavy > Crouching Heavy (which usually launches opponent in air)
Once an opponent is airborne you can do a special move that may extend the combo or end it off, depending on its properites, or if you time it right, you can start over by catching them mid-air and go Light, Medium, Heavy again. But the longer a combo goes on, the less damage each hit does AND the airborne opponent begins to fall faster, so it's good to route your chain to a special attack or super attack that will end off the combo. Satisfying you, and making your opponent salty or scared. At which point you run up to them and Grab their dumbass for predictably blocking.

*Note: that last step does not work on Unga-Bunga Ayame players as they never block, they will continue to mash buttons so don't even try to grab them. RIP Coco Mains.

>>48918946
Also now that I think of it these comics became suddenly on topic in this thread

>>48925045
when will they play idol showdown together.................................

>>48924744
>"I'M NOT MENHERA"
>*proceeds to describe a menhera
Towa...

>>48925123
Does jets even like Hololive?

>>48925170
that's beside the point also fuck there's so many of these comics that i haven't seen

>>48925262
They are all across the board

>>48925494
i mean the jets ones specifically

I want more silly round start announcers ala Alpha 3
>[Announcer] As foretold, the Kronii meat Golem has been assembled
>Delivery One...
>Stream!

Sora is moaning on stream for dev-san...

>>48925635
For all of us

>>48925012
sadly your extra note applies to all characters as every character can outmash coco's grabs that isn't the dinosaur

>>48925560
I am going to guess you are one of the ggg guys that came with shimada a year ago

Tell us wise one, how do we avoid the mistakes of the fighting game generals you have seen in the past?
Open question for everyone else too

>>48921299
From my personal experience,

Ayame matchup is around 5-5. Sora can keep her out pretty well with her great control over space in neutral. Sora's corner setplay is also very strong against Ayame because even Ayame uses her metered DP and hits Sora, she cannot fully continue the combo after because the note will pop her. The main struggle in that matchup is when she gets in and keeps you within a certain range where your L buttons won't reach her but your M/H buttons are too slow. Wish they gave Sora a DP or something too but can't let her have literally everything.

Suisei matchup on the other hand actually feels like a 7-3 or even 8-2 matchup in Sora's favor. I don't think Suisei has any meterless options against 5M > 6M > 236M in the corner. If she does 2M or 3M it trades in Sora's favor since Sora recovers from 2M/3M faster than Suisei recovering from being hit by 236M. At the proper range Suisei can't even punish Sora by jumping over 5M because her jump in normals are dogshit as j.M is almost purely an air-to-air normal and j.H has very little horizontal range. When it comes to neutral Suisei needs to really work hard to get in. I've perfected Suiseis several times by just playing neutral and not letting them get in. Since I initially started this game playing Suisei, it feels bad doing this to other Sui players but I do it to show how dogshit the character is gameplay wise in hopes they actually fix her.

In all honesty I'd say Sora's hardest matchup at the moment is Botan because Botan has really obnoxious air normals that are hard to anti-air with both 6L or 2H. The one that gives me the most trouble is the air move where Botan shoots while descending down from the air, like a fucking divekick except with way more range. Might just need to lab this matchup more though since I haven't actually went into training mode to lab counters to matchups yet since I'm not sure if I want to become that sweaty for this game and despite my feelings on how rough it is to fight that character and how strong Botan is overall I still think the matchup is probably something like 6-4 at worst since Sora setplay still destroys Botan. I think overall Sora has really good matchup spreads throughout and is definitely a top tier character if played well.

>>48925935
for the love of god don't give attention to annoying attention whore namefriends. or else your thread will devolve into petty drama horseshit feuds between 10 different people who all have names on a fucking anonymous image board. if they start acting like hot shit saying they're better than everyone else, ignore them, instead of trying to lolcow them.

jesus fucking christ it has been a year hasn't it?

>>48925012
Even better, meaty into sweep every time and they won't know what to do until they learn how to block.

Help me fighting game anons, I suck dick at this game but I want to get better, are there easier fighting games than this to help you get started?
I bought Skullgirls like 2 years earlier but I never tried it, would that be an easier game to learn than Idol Showdown?[/spoiler/

>>48926475
>are there easier fighting games than this
not ones that are going to have an active playerbase. this is about as easy as you're gonna get, anon.
>I bought Skullgirls like 2 years earlier
skullgirls is unbelievably complicated and difficult and the small playerbase still playing is extremely good at the game. however, the tutorial is very good and teaches a lot of worthwhile fundamentals. so if you already own it, then go for it.

but ultimately there's no big secret. wait until some pro player puts together a video on whatever character you wanna play and just steal all their shit. if you wanna get in early, you can even watch them stream instead and try to take notes.

>>48926475
Nah, this game is pretty good to learn fighting games. Easy input specials and supers, no stun or guard break. Just need to learn fundamentals.

Watch this https://youtu.be/_R0hbe8HZj0 it's a fighting game primer on universal concepts that will help you in any fighting game

>>48926475
No way is skullgirls easier. You can try GBVS, I think there's a sale going on and it's $2.

Fubuki is pretty good once you realize you can jump cancel down heavy on block for easy pressure and you can do the power up super mid combo after back heavy.
I feel like if more people knew this I probably get to fight one for once online. I had to drop Botan, her new voice trys too hard

doing hcf and srk on a keyboard is pretty annoying

>>48926721
Fubuki is pretty good once you know j.H is a thing.

>>48926095
Seems like a reasonable idea but I wonder how we can nip that in the bud before it takes place...
rip g*sler

Leaving this here, might be useful to add to OP next thread:

Twitter Hashtags for Character Tech

Aki: #ISD_AKI
Ayame: #ISD_AYA
Botan: #ISD_BOT
Coco: #ISD_COC
Fubuki: #ISD_FUB
Korone: #ISD_KOR
Sora: #ISD_SOR
Suisei: #ISD_SUI

>inb4 eww twitter gtfo
Listen, just this once, its unironically helpful, heck I even learned some combos from just copying what people have posted so far.

>>48927028
considering plenty of people are probably in the same handful of chuuba discords, it shouldn't be too bad. outsider oversight like that tends to keep people clean.
he wasn't even that bad himself, it was his little freak buddy who was the issue and exacerbated everyone else by constantly picking fights. i can't even look at that fucking thread anymore.

>>48927083
I will probably just put it in a paste bin because that list will grow larger and larger as time goes by

>>48926681
NTA but thanks, gbvs for $2 is a steal

>>48926800
SRK is easier on keyboard imo
tap forward, hold down, tap forward and punch

>>48927188
We will tell shimada not give chicken subs to bad boys who pick up fights and say 1v1 me FT10 and Coyo to ignore their supas.
If you dont help your bros you will make anime girls said, and thats terrible

>>48923317
Out of curiosity, did you happen to be playing Sora? Cuz I recall playing against a pretty decent Sora as Suisei and I won 10+ matches and only lost twice I think and then my hands gave out so I left.
If NTA, my bad but I also fought some guy who tried switching to every char hoping to win a matchup against me to no avail unfortunately.

How the fuck do you deal with Botan on Arcade mode while playing Sora? I just can't keep up with both good zoning and rushdown from this character.

>>48927410
It wasn't me, cause I didn't win. Best I could do against a Suisei main was take away half of his health. I'm play in South America by the way.

I LOVE IDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS

>>48927589
Ah okay, have yet to fight yet against another Suisei main but yeah she's pretty oppressive.
Good luck on getting better though!

Alphe schedule up!

>>48927589
>>48927850 (me)
I also play in South America, forgot to mention

>>48926475
You don't need an easier fighting game. You need to make easier decisions about the game you're playing.
Why do I say this?
Because no fighting game is inherently easier than any other, because you're playing against another person's habits and tricks, not the game itself.
>inb4 muh execution
>inb4 muh controller
>inb4 muh combos
If you suck as much dick as you say you do then right now you need to go into matches and focus on very few things for your game plan initially. And keep using that game plan and PAY ATTENTION to when that game plan works at what ranges and when it does not.
Example:
Choose Coco.
>inb4 muh tier
You are here to learn not win.
The ONE combo you will use = Crouching Medium, into Standing Heavy, into Medium Fire.
Do the whole thing each time, even when they block you to build a bit of meter as the trade for you getting hit.
The ONE "get the fuck off me dude!" you will use = crouching Light. Spam it, do not worry about comboing out of it, just spam it if you are being too pressure until they back off.
The ONE Anti-Air you will use = Medium tail grab to catch jumping and then, if you have the superchat meter to do it, AsaCoco plug their asshole for extra damage on top.
The ONE Footsie tool you will use = Sweep since it reaches the longest and low.
The ONE "AAAAAAA I'M BEING COMBOED TO DEATH FOR THE 2nd TIME IN A ROW TASKUETEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" you will use = The Burst button.
Focus on using just those for the next 25 matches. Even if you go 0-25 your goal is to see how effective each of those options are and in what situations. None of them require crazy execution and will end up as your bread and butter when you start to add more of her moveset to your arsenal of situations you find yourself in.

>>48928016
Might have been a chance I played against you then, but I don't care about losing. If I can get at least one stock I would know I'm getting better at the game.

This was a game right?
https://twitter.com/sakuemonq/status/1654063270444298242

>>48928251
based coach gyaru loving poster

>>48928304
The Lunaito taking damage and blocking for Luna is pure soul. It's just like Rachel Alucard.

>>48928251
Probably the best advice these threads will ever get. If you're new to fighting games the last thing you should give a fuck is your w-l ratio. You should focus on getting used to the game and it's controls regardless if you end up 0-100 by the end of your first week, because the you from the future will thank your for actually learning how the game works instead of wasting time into perfecting some gimmicky strategy that won't work against better players or practicing some ultra optimized 100% combo that you'll never land because it requires full resources and a jumping H starter.

I have the feeling these are my people
I am finally back home at last
I know home no longer exist. There is nothing left. Time waits for no one. However, this might be the closest thing to what the original in hlgg /jp/ was
It might have been in a roundabout way but finally got here
thanks

What do you guys use to play? I'm using my PS5 controller but I'm not sure the more I use it.

>>48928269
Great mindset to have, any improvement is an improvement after all.

>>48929030
A 360 controller.
I could use keyboard because I'm used to that too and the motion inputs would be easier, but faster fighting games like these just feel right playing with a controller, to me at least. And if it feels right, I'll play right.

>>48929030
a cheapass 60 dollar mayflash stick that has served me incredibly well for like two full years

>>48929023
Yes, I remember when oldschool /hlgg/ would... Talk about fighting game minutiae for 250 posts?
but actually I kinda get it, shit's comfy

>>48929030
I got a hori fighting commander years ago, still using it.

>>48929030
My arcade stick with a panzer 3i case, Brooks UFB, Sanwa JLF and buttons.

>>48929030
Keyboard for fighting games using a leverless controller config

>>48929023
sup nigga

>>48926011
>In all honesty I'd say Sora's hardest matchup at the moment is Botan because Botan has really obnoxious air normals that are hard to anti-air with both 6L or 2H. The one that gives me the most trouble is the air move where Botan shoots while descending down from the air, like a fucking divekick except with way more range. Might just need to lab this matchup more though since I haven't actually went into training mode to lab counters to matchups yet since I'm not sure if I want to become that sweaty for this game and despite my feelings on how rough it is to fight that character and how strong Botan is overall I still think the matchup is probably something like 6-4 at worst since Sora setplay still destroys Botan. I think overall Sora has really good matchup spreads throughout and is definitely a top tier character if played well.
that's funny because I got absolutely destroyed by a sora not to long ago because her sword move has fuckhuge range and the moment I wiff any of my combos she has that thing on me before I can do anything

>>48929827
Jump more with j.2H
That's the move that was giving me a lot of issues I think. Her big sword normals (5M and 6M) are both weak to jumps. If you jump around a lot the Sora player might focus more on trying to wait for a jump so they can anti-air you, but being able to control when you fall with j.2H is strong because it messes up their anti-air timing. If you manage to hit them with j.2H then it's an easy confirm into a combo from there for at least 1/3rd of the Sora player's health.

Just be wary about throwing grenades in neutral because they're more than slow enough for Sora to simply reflect.

>>48930200
>Just be wary about throwing grenades in neutral because they're more than slow enough for Sora to simply reflect.
yeah, that's the other thing that was giving me trouble because usually when I run into a player that can punish me for whiffing I just fall back on the long range pokes of 4H and 236L to damage them at range and force them to come to me but then Sora can do the block move with A-chan and that just ends up hurting me more

Thank god there aren't too many people maining a-chan online right now

I'm happy guys, I got all Sora cosplays

>>48930454
What's the color you unlock in story mode?

>>48918946
How does this compare to melty? It's the only other fightan I've played

>Sora sits seiza in her crouch idle
Too cute.

>>48930695
OG Sora
Her first outfit color

>>48930912
Nice, what are her other colors?

>>48930753
This one doesn't have air dashes, so it can be played more slow-paced if you want to. Otherwise to that, I'd say it's similarly easy to pick up. The characters are all a bit same-ey, so you don't have to learn as many character-specific buttons to figure out their combo routes. You can just run in with 2A 2B 2C and still win against some people online.

>>48930454
How many matches for #5? Any idea if offline works, or if you have to win?

>>48931037
Tsukino Mito for VS Friends Matches
Tenjin Kotone(?) for Arcade Mode

>>48931122
I played with a friend, you have to win to get the skin. I'm not sure how many wins, I assume 3 times is enough. I don't know if other modes can unlock it.

>>48931295
>mito cosplay for sora
honestly really cool.

>>48931295
That looks like an Athena alt color friend

>>48931379
Yeah, devs are KoF fans and they sneaked some easter eggs from that franchise, also the general combo system of normal -> command normal -> special -> super is also present in this

>>48931379
Damn, I had no idea, but I really felt that this color scheme was familiar

Am I tripping or does one of the stages have a live again/high tide mashup bgm

>>48931986
Yeah the city stage does

If I brought a set up to biger fgc events, you guys think people would play?

>>48932290
People were playing the old jank ass Sailor Moon fighting game at Evo. You'd find at least one other person to play.

>>48932377
Sailor moon S goes hard af. We have set ups at my locals

>>48932133
Brazy

How many 'chapters' is virtual frontier? It is cool, but if it is too long I'm not rushing it to see the colors. I'll be happy when the gbl page gets updated with all of the colors.

What am I supposed to play with? I'm a total noob to fighting games

>>48932914
It's just 3 chapters.

>>48932935
dpad

Suiseibros, why it's so hard to land her 236s 22s... Shit hitbox. And she scales so hard she literally need Ame to do more than 300 dmg. That's sad.

>>48932935
This game definitely wants Dpad/Hitbox for more precise inputs. My stick picks up all these awkward inputs that cause my character to just do the wrong things like fucking 22H when I want to 2H anti-air or not going into 22x when I want it because it read the input like 21x instead.

>>48932914
3 chapters with a last boss in the end

>>48933236
I was having issues with qcs on my controller (I haven't played a game that needs those on it for years), but then on my stick it picks up extra downs all the time even though I slam to 2 and don't move the stick at all. Don't get me started on inputs ceasing to exist online, but never having a problem in training.

>>48932986
>>48933332
Oh. I might go finish my run today. I need to cool down anyhow. My mental state is already making it hard to enjoy online at the moment.

>>48932935
Dpad is more common but I also know some really good players who play on pad and use the analog stick. It's all preference.

>>48933395
Online netcode is still in beta but definitely does need more work. I'm tired of losing rounds all because the game thought I killed the opponent but they're actually still alive and can do whatever they want because my character is locked to the widescreen victory cinematic.

bros, i'm not going to make it
i get bodied vs the ai as sora, i can barely make it past 3 stages

>>48933481
I had Botan's super overlay get stuck in virtual frontier, so I couldn't see any of the item effects I was picking. Only happened once, but it was funny.

>>48928251
Just did this strategy (modified) with Coco vs a Botan and went 5-5
I had to add random ark dragons to throw the opponent off, but that crouching medium conditions them to jump then I got free tail grab, including the super version.
Worked out better than expected, still haven't fought an Ayame, Korone or Fubuki with this strat yet though.

>>48931295
>>48931379
PSYCHIC SWORDO!

>>48933549
I can't even make it past act one. I think I play competitive too much (which I'm also bad at) because all these gimmicks filter me, HARD.

>>48933878
Story mode is more based on luck. If you are struggling, just cheese the thing.

Like if you play Sora spam sword and projectile to make them stay away and try to get Anya item to support you.

why is every suisei doujin shotacon bullshit?

>>48934448
Why the fuck do you think retard

>>48934616
explain it anyway.

>>48934658
Suisei's a shotacon

>>48934879
*shounencon

>>48934879
cringe.

Sora setups are pretty hard. The way she works from my understanding is to adjust to her neutrals and take advantage of the 24M/H. But it's pretty hard my dude.

>>48935489
She's probably the most technical character of the cast so far but the nice thing about her is that you can play her non-optimally and still win because even without the setplay her kit is very good and she is very well balanced as a character.

Who is Coco's best assist? Anyone that helps her get in or block hits?

>>48933056
I was so mad at the state of Suisei till I stepped back and recognized that despite how impressive this game is, it is still a fan kusoge. And having janking ass characters that don't work as they should is par for the course.
That said, I'm not interested in fighting a sea of Botans and Ayame's so Imma just chill till (if) they balance the game a little.

>>48935781
Mio as a combo enabler apparently.

>>48933236
This game feels almost hostile to stick. Having directional+S shortcuts while having motion inputs tied to S was not a great idea either.

If anyone has all 3 color palette unlocks for any character, could you post a screenshot of them? I want to compile a guide of all the colors for each idol. Currently have Sora and Ayame.

Is anyone having really bad screen tearing issues with the game? Especially on the café stage.

>>48924650
She’s a pressure monster, with hit grabs and command grabs and a setup projectile… she’s not easy to handle because all of her attacks are so high-commitment, but once she gets going you can’t get her off you. She keeps putting you into more and more pressure situations, over and over. I think she’s hard to crack but really strong once you do.

Her defense is shit, tho. Never block lol.

According to miizumi Suisei's 5M is +5 (FIVE) on block while having 8f startup.
This can't be right? If so she could literally just keep doing 5M and you'd need a 2f startup move to beat it.

>>48936764
it whiffs on crouchers from anything outside kissing distance and it's not much better against standing block, she'll be pushed out of range and eat a counterhit if she tries to loop it on you like that

>>48935489
I was thinking you could do 236L like I-No's note oki in Strive, but I'm not sure if the timing works. I haven't figured out how to properly use 214 outside of the corner.

>>48936479
Yeah, it looks like there's no option to turn on v-sync. Hopefully they change that soon. It renders correctly if you have a gsync monitor. I think those are the only two ways to eliminate tearing.

>>48936479
yes
which is weird because any other fighting game i play i never turn v-sync on and never see any noticeable screen tearing as much as this game

>>48937268
Strive definitely has tearing without v-sync. Can't remember if SF5 has the same problem.

>>48936601
How do you even pressure with her? Her normals are so stubby, you block twice and everything is out of range.
Her setplay fireball takes so long to even reach level two and without charging it might as well not exist.
236x, including air version, is so telegraphed. 6H doesn't even overhead as advertised.
Only thing I can think or is stagger pressure? But again, everything is so stubby and no one blocks so trying a cheeky reset is so sketch.
5M is a legitimate joke of a normal, I swear I have seen it whiff on a standing Ayame.

Coco bros, you can combo into any of her grabs after normals assuming you're close enough. But the timing is tight as fuuuck.

>>48937992
Tighter than Kanata's grip?

How is the online?

>>48936109
Botan has Aloe, Dante and Seiba

>>48938296
It's good.

How's 499 damage for a 2 bar combo starting with 5h?

I'm shit

>>48937839
Suisei has both a really good dash sweep and a really long air overhead. Its hard to predict what she's going to use as she can use both of them to start a combo, and Suisei combos are extensive.

Man it's kind of a joke game but I can't believe these dipshits actually forced everyone to listen to Botan joke lines.

>>48936764
You should really learn more about playing fighting games before you start worrying about frame data.

>>48939220
>Suisei has both a really good dash sweep
wat
>she can use both of them to start a combo
much further wat

>>48935781
maybe marine since she gives her some actual ranged presence, and her full collab is great

>>48939220
>good dash sweep
? u mean 3m? 236l doesn't even connect after even when connecting at the tip.
>really long air overhead
surely you are not saying to use air 236x as a starter?

>>48938449
Naisu

>the satisfaction of hitting a 27 hits combo
>the dispair after noticing it only dealt 331 damage

I can't decide

>>48940065
Just play Botan

>>48940065
Yeah I've noticed damage increases after dropping some extra hits from my combos. I think you want some heavy hitters early, then spam lighter hits as it goes on, especially if it's a looping combo.

>>48940295
>another fellow zoner
>for some reason deals more damage

I can't respect that, I'll wait for nerfs

>>48940065
As much as I generally want to call people complaining about the sprites fags, that ded inu might look worse than Botan's 6H

Lol Ayame players do 500+ combos without assist while Suisei struggles to even do 320 with assist. Jesus buff Suisei, at least make her hitboxes bigger or something. I can't even do decent pressure with 214H on the screen.

>>48940739
Suisei doesn't need damage when she has easy loopable setplay.

>>48940739
Katana characters are always privileged, get used to it.

>Go on twitch to see if anyone is playing my main to get some ideas.
>Everyone is playing Botan
Owari da

>>48940982
I'm currently watching a Botan player getting destroyed by Aki, so things are good

>>48940065
Jump in j5H, 5H, 2H, 236M, dash in 6L, 2H, 236S does like 500 and is fairly simple to pull off. There might be more your can do at the end too but that's just off the top of my head

Starting your combos off with heavier attacks is more risky but leads to a ton more damage

>>48941115
I was practicing to get out of overly aggressive rushdown strats, so I was starting a crouch combo, but I'll see about this H thing

I didn't think this game would be this fun. I'm legit surprise about a game release for the first time in like a decade. There still needs to be some more polish but goddamn it just feels good to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLzRntQp6pc
Suisei 500 dmg combo from 236M.

Projectiles are crazy in this game because they come out so fast. Getting hit on startup doesn't mean shit since the projectile still comes out and trades.

I think the assist and collab system needs some real tweaking to be worthwhile to use.

How do you TK in this game? I tried 2369x and 23696x and no dice. 8236x works but I can't get it low to the ground.

>>48941629
Obv there is no TK.

>>48940982
any actual girls?

>>48941402
Low expectations from a free to play fan game of hololive
We didn't expect it to be this good, so the satisfaction is immense

>>48941589
Cancels means collabs will remain a gimmick I think. Especially the 3 bar ones.
>>48941675
bummer

>game starts stuttering with two DRM streams open because it uses like 70% of CPU11
intredasting

>>48941629
Seems like motions done on the ground don't registered towards air specials in this game, so TK motions don't work. You can still just use the special button to do really low air specials however.

>>48941887

>>48941115
What a fucking crime
I started the same combo I did up there with j5H, 5H, 2H and the result was this

>>48941887
>You can still just use the special button to do really low air specials however.
Hey! Great idea thanks!
I hate when simple inputs have gameplay effects outside or just acting as shortcuts, but I'll take it.

>>48938449
>good
Serviceable
Rollback is still spotty and more than once you will drop a combo on the enemy screen and get insta DPd on yours despite doing nothing wrong

Gib me the sora combos.

>>48942072
#ISD_SOR

>>48919199
I know it's late, I played this a few times. You have to make her approach you. That sounds retarded, but you can do it. But you have to pick Kiara, she is an absolute must in the matchup. The offcollab means she can't just zone you out since you can use her projectiles against her. The basic strategy is to spam 22S to dodge projectiles and build up meter for Kiara. When she realizes she has to approach, 3C is your major poke in the matchup. It's also good for punishing certain things, like a poorly spaced 6M. If she continues to try to zone you, then Kiara's off collab allows you to approach much easier. If she tries to use grenade in her blockstrings, use 5M. I don't know what it is, but 5M has this weird projectile armor point and the grenade won't knock you down, so you can use 5M again and get in her face, but it only works at a certain distance and I don't know why. Of course, on offense you can roll her. It's still not a good matchup, but it's very doable.

>>48940568
Some Korone's faces looks really bad

>>48941629
I can TK the coco flight

>>48942320
Korone's head and Ayame's legs look weird to me
The rest look great

>>48927083
>#ISD_FUB
>not #ISD_FBK
This is a crime.

This game is going to die when SF6 comes out isn't it? I hope there is at least some sort of community for it after ward.

>>48942635
hope you like discord because that's the only way you'll ever get matches in two months from now

every lobby i join is empty or dumps me back to main menu. pls PM me the fix.

>>48920071
someone i idolize
like Botan

>>48942635
Anon, its a niche type of game in a niche anime community, what do you expect to happen?

Capshills sure are desperate

/vt/appa pls

>>48942711
discord is fine...

>>48942635
As long as it's free and it's updated with decent consistency it won't "die", but don't expect this to keep reaching 9-10k players forever.

>>48942711
actually most likely this thread will still exist considering yubicraft is still around, we can play games here
on the other hand joining discord to play sets with coyo or shimada is tempting

>>48942635
I mean we could just treat this as any other general and use it to find matches, share tech and shit since there's at least 2 more fighting games coming out this year. They also already confirmed 3 more characters coming out and cali is gonna try to hold a tourney by the end of june as well so we still have a bit before this general dies

>>48942443
Everybody does
If anything, cococchi's flight should be turned into a regular air dash during which you can act considering she has no air special at all and how you're throwing away any advantage by using it

>>48943174
>so we still have a bit before this general dies
This is the fighting game general not the idol showdown general actually
We should prepare for peaceful transition to SFVI

>>48943174
>"Proibido jogar com Ayame"

I swear to god, I'm brazilian and I played against a guy named "weakest ayame warrior" or something like that. I swear to god I'll hate the very existence of every Ayame main just because of this guy and his obnoxious air combos.

>>48943274
Yeah I'm sure everyone looking forward to SF6 is frantically preparing to transition

>>48943342
kek

>>48943174
we got a next op gentlemen

>>48943274
>This is the fighting game general
And Idol Showdown is a gacha RPG now? The FPS general talks about any shooter VSPO and other chuubas play so why would this general stop talk about IS when SF6 comes out?

>>48943612
It wont stop but most likely wont dominate 100% of the discussion like right now

I want to get decent enough at every character to unlock their cosplays and not have them be completely useless in a character elimination format, what are a few good tips for this?

Hey guys Ayame main here,any tips?

>>48943664
True, but I don't get the "peaceful transition" bit. SF6 will come out and it'll be another game to discuss, just like how it'll (hopefully) happen with other fgs as long as there's vtuber playing them. I really hope GBVS doesn't completely die again.

>>48943771
>character elimination
I know "all random" from KOF, but afaik "character elimination/banning" only ever happens in the Street Fighter League.

>>48943174
based fuck ayame players

>>48943987
Character elimination is how I usually play with friends, it's a pretty casual setting but I'd still like to not have dead characters with a roster this small.

>>48943876
pic related
In all seriousness though, I've yet to play Ayame, only against her.

>>48943876
>any tips?
kys

Rate my DLC predictions

>>48944277
I think anyone already represented by a cosplay color scheme is less likely to show up, so waiting for a complete list of those before making predictions.

Poi is so fucking broken and i hope they nerf it
I'd rather face ayame players than poifags tbqh

>>48943876
Stop using the 214 divekick thing in your blockstrings if you want to live. Otherwise I will command grab you every single time you do it.

>>48944277
>Was a meme in 2020 which is where the devs are stuck
Based. Wish we could go back

>>48944640
Ayame was the hour 1 "meta", Botan is the day 3 pick.

burst seems really hard to bait, it seems like it's just a get-out-of-any-combo card instead of a mind game

I've still yet to see any Korone players (and good Suisei players). Why are you not maining her?

>>48944277
>Polka in possible and not forgotten
>Okayu in unlikely
>Kobo in forgotten
shit list, good bait made me respond

>>48945384
Shimada is maining korone because her oshi is Okayu but seems she is struggling a bit because she might be UP compared to Botans and Ayames

>>48945384
I'm maining suisei. Not having too much fun though, may switch even though I really don't want to.

>>48944640
>t. Ayameshitter
You can't trick me by posting suisei either. I see through you.

>>48945661
Okayu is unlikely because there is an alt skin already

>>48945719
Then the same should be for polka

>>48945760
She's too silly

>>48945800
And Okayu is too cute(lewd) to be excluded.

>>48945760
>>48945719
>>48944476

What are all the alt skins so far?

>>48945384
I've had quite a few good matches with Suiseis, but I'm pretty shit at fighting games.
Only saw one Korone so far.

>>48945993
Did that Suisei use Towa outfit?

>>48946077
Mostly the default colors, no Towa yet.

>>48941493
So that's how you combo into her SSA. I squeezed out some more damage for fun.

>>48935781
kiara

>>48944277
Also the "ARS-supa Luna spics" is also a 2020 meme which makes it even more likely

>>48944277
>Was a meme in 2020 which is where the devs are stuck
What the fuck does that mean lol Towa is bigger than ever

>Coco's command grabs and super grab is tech-able
why do devs hate her so much?

>>48946206
I've learned so many routes for her I am now mixing up her combos. Either go 2H/3H 22A or 2H j236M so you can use 22A to extend combo even further. And with 236M overhead, you can either do that 500dmg combo, or supacancel into 22A and do also damaging but easier combo. God it was so easier yesterday when I just did one combo.

>>48944277
not predictions just shit i think would be cool in a vs fightan, disregarding everything like already being a Collab

Haato - Basic shoto w/ Haachama Install. Ky Kiske.
Mel - She succs, she seduccs, float dash?, aka Morrigan?
Noel - Big body big weapon character. SC Astaroth
Robo - she's a robot. Doom, Robo-Fortune, Robo-Ky
Kana - shy angel ninja also iron grip
Watame - sheep bard, Jack-O type? covers screen in sheep/watamelons to fight for her
Moona - honestly i'm just thinking sexy girl version of Remy, maybe a little Millia, throw moon booms at you / does falling moon attacks?
Ina - Tentacles. Void movement. Zato-1?
Calliope - she's got a fookin scythe m8
Bae - high energy chaotic mix-up, rekkas maybe good
Lui - I want her to dominate me with a whip. KoF Whip / SC Ivy
Iroha - s-word
Kaela - hammer, endurance, hyper armor ungabunga?
Polka - Tricks, traps, and gimmicks.
Kiara. SnS, phoenix stuff.
Ollie - her head/limbs detach, Ms. Fortune
Marine - call in bombardments, cutlass maybe, horny grabby hands
Peko - weapons of mass destruction, smug mocking aura. KoF Yamazaki but MVCI Racoon weapons
Luna - LuKnight keepaway, Tantrum Mode when critical, SB Zelda
Mumei - haha le cute psychopath idk, jumpscare teleport grab character? MK Scorpion?

>>48945719
not an argument

>>48946271
No one is saying she's not a meme now as well but it was the height of the tower spam

The golden age of hololive, the days of /jp/, the peko homo war, Miko boat, the golden hands of goalkeeper Moona, of the days of Artia and Pepes, of Reddit Reviews drinking games and Watame lullabies, of what could had been and wasnt.
All those memories lost, like tears in the rain.

>>48946668
>Reddit Reviews drinking games
Those were fun, I missed them

>>48946668
Yea the vtuber presence on this website going from 200 people in /jp/ to this entire board obviously killed the old small community vibes but if you bring up Towa in most threads here you'll still get 20 replies with different random words starting with T so I'm not sure what you mean. If anything the retarded EOP TMT spam has died down but that's a good thing.

>>48945384
I've played against some tourney level player for Marvel/DNFD who picked Suisei
Not even tourney fundies could overcome the character matchup gap that is Sora vs Suisei
Must have been at least 20-4 before I needed to end the set.

>>48947122
I watched Majin Obama stream the game when it came out and he was getting clowned on by some rando on Suisei so I thought she was good lol

>>48946668
Those were the days. I miss FestivaLuna too

>>48947212
Masturi x Luna was just a fling
Meanwhile Shuba x Luna is going two years strong now and no sign of slowing down

>>48945719
I will never stop believing.

>>48946636
>Watame - sheep bard, Jack-O type? covers screen in sheep/watamelons to fight for her
oh fuck 2020 watamelons definetively going in

>>48947305
Nah, ShubaLuna is cute, but its not at all comparable.

>>48932935
if you are poor keyboard
if you don't play many fighting games pad
if you want to have fun stick
if you want to win hitbox

As Sora, what should you do after sweep at midscreen? 214 note just floats past them.

Only Americans are hosting. Not a single European host. It shouldn't be even that late at night. Just one more set... anyone...

>coco's description says she has a gill retribution mechanic with burning/poison
>there is no poison status

>>48947572
That's the rogue-like mode only.

>>48947527
Europeans dont really care about anime

>>48947572
>botan's stats say she doesn't have a lot of OFF stats

Don't trust the game

>>48946445
Is it? Because I even tested against Ayame's 214 in training and even if you spam grab, Coco's command grab lands after blocking Ayame's 214 every time.

>>48947527
i haven't even learned the game yet lets goooo
B2429BC1

>>48948106
you have to get it frame perfect but it's tech-able unless they just patched it

>>48946636
I want my hyperactive nene rushdown character to balance out my botan.

>>48948243
It's techable, but you can't tech grabs if you're in the middle of an animation. So at the very least, they can still be used as punish tools.

>>48948206
Oh I was playing with some random guy. Failed to find a match probably means someone else joined. Oh well. I actually was wondering why no one is sharing codes here.

>>48948683
whoever it was, i dont think EU as our connection pooped out. think it was an anon though, GGs.

>>48948206
Sorry about that it was kinda laggy anywho, ggs though.

>>48948683
948BAF05
EU
Last set this time for sure.

Give Sora's 6L head invul at least FFS Botan's jump normals are so annoying.

Any list for all planned and current tournaments for Idol Showdown? These are tough to find

>>48944277
If this were 2020 or 2021 this chart would make it onto Coco's Shitpost Review, and I would be very drunk, per the rules.
Take that however you will.

>>48946668

>>48948826
I guess it died
4B1EDD1E

>>48947572
I think lot of shit in this game just DOESN'T work yet lmao
Gotta wait for a patch I guess

You heard it here first. Coco has a ToD. Don't whiff against her or you die. I don't know why I did this, I guess I have nothing better to do. The only downside is the damage is random, and I don't know what causes it. Sometimes the full combo does about 750, other times it does 1000 and it depends on if you get the H cartwheel super scaling that makes it do fucking 585 damage.

How do I mod in Ride The Fire into this game?
It's not the same
I need Ride the Fire as a stage song
if I cant blow out my speakers hearing "READY OR NOT" it's not the same
this games kino
let me
have
my
kino
ty

>>48949967
cant you just turn the volume down and listen to it outside

>>48933236
>>48936037
I fucking hate the input reader in this game so much.
Pic related gave me Sora 236L when I was trying to do 6L from a crouching position. No fucking wonder I get blown up so many times when I try to anti-air people who jump forward in neutral.

>>48949588
Again????
E86A9F50
Wanna more.

>>48950547
dunno if its me or the game, i have very stable fiber. trying to rejoin but can't
i really like you Sui btw, not a fucking clue when i am supposed to press a button atm kek

anyone EU?

>>48950545
this explains a lot

>>48950545
Same with Suisei and 6H. except it's worse, cause it spends a bar for you. And fuck 22 inputs btw and fuck MK for popularizing it.

>>48950640
Someone else joined. And it died on the first battle.
0ADB9FC9
Last one this time for sure.

>>48950545
yeah i get 214+L all the time on stick when just trying to 1L. my inputs are far from clean but this is ridiculous

>>48950640
Also it's totally games fault. I have dogshit connection even with Europeans.

>play suisei
>get into your opponents face
>smash the keyboard
>win

Page ten, anything that needs to be added to the op?
I forgot the glossary last time

>>48950545
No wonder I was getting specials when I didn't want them.

>>48951059
Nobody reads OPs brother

>>48950973
>Play Sora
>Don't get into your opponent's face
>Smash the controller
>Win

>>48951059
kone cute

>>48951059
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Idol_Showdown
This has been significantly updated since last night

why are 90% of the people i face botans

>>48951120
I know, for example no one has asked why is there a tigerzoo watching link there
It's a lig reference since we stole their name format, I saw this channel in their op during their april fools prank

>>48951235
Got it

>>48951250
She fun.

>>48951250
botan sex

>>48951250
Because she's broken and has too many overtooled moves. Half her moveset puts you in hitstun for a billion years for no reason. She can land her jumping attacks from the top of her jump arc, land, and still have enough hitstun to combo you. And it's positive on block no matter how early she does it. And that's just one example.

>>48951250
She's really fucking good. Her only weakness is no reversal.

>>48951059
>>48951120
I was actually trying to read the OP looking for the glossary to understand what TOD was because it wasn't Total Optician Death

>>48950848
Ded again
GGs to both anons. It's fun to play against Botan players until they start actually doing damage.

Anyone want to play? NA

If the guy I just spent an hour fighting as Botan vs Fubuki happens to be here it was fun and I learned a lot

Aki is the best char and if you disagree with me you're a retard and I hate you.
>Teleport she can instantly act out of
>Fastest projectile
>Loopable blockstring anywhere on screen
>Probably has the best air button

I'll chalk the blockstring part up to skill issue because I'm guessing it's on me for not knowing how to get out of it but everything else seems insane.

>>48953020
I have yet to fight a single Aki player

Bread

>>48953201
>>48953201
>>48953201
>>48953201

>>48953020
I haven't seen any Aki yet though.