/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>48888827
Recent clip numbers
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>>48843213
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>>48843347

flaygon doesn’t seem to be a numberfag and just wants to stream desu. Shame really, Iwonder if he’s a holofan

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>110,996: Pekora (Hololive)
>40,520: Furen (Nijisanji)
>32,290: Botan (Hololive)
>23,236: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>20,934: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>20,493: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>18,928: Mio (Hololive)
>17,981: Mumei (Hololive)
>16,921: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,547: Okayu (Hololive)
>14,526: Korone (Hololive)
>14,378: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,209: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,317: Shion (Hololive)
>12,991: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,616: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,542: Watame (Hololive)
>12,350: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,123: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,267: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,222: Calliope (Hololive)
>10,136: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,117: Iroha (Hololive)

shitter status

So has IRyS creamed her panties over the Tempus items and Roberu yet?

>>48889021
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Pekora
1x: Koyori, Marine

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
95x: Hololive
22x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
37x: Pekora
11x: Marine
10x: Miko
6x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEgrV2vwORQ#t=4291
Botan reacting to Roberu in Idol Showdown
The "Oh shit it's a homo" moment is great

>Casually gets the same or better numbers than the individual Luxiem POVs from Raft collab

>>48888888
who got the numbers

Wait the Roberu stuff is literally 1 time and he never shows up again? wtf literally subliminal message to watch the homos

>>48889021
>no sliver for Hololive
1st is the worst
2nd is the best
3rd is the one with the polka

>>48887927
She finished the other game like last month to two months ago. She’s just reclined because too much eceleb cock

>>48889043
Better than 85% of NijiEN tho

>>48889117
1 time is 1 time too many. I'd rather the agency goes under than to tolerate them.

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>5/6 DAILY TALLY
17,981: Mumei (Hololive)
10,222: Mori (Hololive)
9,195: Mori (Hololive)
8,907: Pomu (Nijisani)
8,830: Shu (Nijisanji)
7,878: Fauna (Hololive)
7,137: Luca (Nijisanji)
7,046: Mysta (Nijisanji)
6,239: Mori (Hololive)
6,085: Ina (Hololive)
5,411: Vox (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: IRyS
1x: Fauna, Luca, Gura, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
10p: IRyS
7p: Mori
5p: Fauna, Luca, Gura, Mumei
4p: Shu, Ina, Baelz

>>48889099
only 5k on minecraft
ame reclined hard

The guy who made the game said that he only included people he actually watched. So since Roberu is one screen only and the Tempiss dudes are only their items, maybe he only watched a few clips?

>>48889111
>Disgusting homopost
WASTED

>>48889196
Luxiem reclining hard deflection post

Has IRyS' channel gotten unfucked by youtube? She is getting more normal viewership for her lately and he subs have ticked over 3 times in like the last week (from 921k to 924k).

How can I groom an indie /#/?

>>48889043
5k and 4k for her sponsored stream arent that bad actually. Her lose of viewers isnt as great as some other people

>>48889084
Not nearly as hard as Fauna did with Ross.

>>48889190
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
89x: Hololive
35x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
12x: Mori
11x: IRyS
10x: Fauna, Gura
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Ina
7x: Amelia, Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara, Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
117p: Fauna
90p: Mori
87p: IRyS, Ina
83p: Baelz, Mumei
64p: Vox
55p: Amelia
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
48p: Kiara
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
22p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>48889264
be a somewhat famous artist/e-celeb

>>48889098
THE FUCKING SILENCE WHILE TRYING TO THINK WHAT TO SAY, MY FUCKING SIDES

>>48889084
>>48889280
Stop samefagging

>>48889196
Yep.
She's climbing still, but Ame's recline is completely deserved.
She has zero presence in the server, has zero on-going threads, has no connections, etc.
Like hell, just look at Fauna to see how to get good numbers in MC
>Start a big project
>Commit to it
>Stay consistent (RIP on this one as of late)
Ame is incapable of all three points, so yea I don't expect to see any big Ame numbers on MC anymore.

How did Magni go from the highest subbed Tempus and having the memes to being the lowest even behind Axel. What a drop

Why don't they just upload these as shorts
They're literally the perfect format for shorts

>>48889234
I think so, she has been getting her normal numbers from before her redesign

>>48889264
Ask Ray-groomer anon when it shows up.

>>48889342
not a great streamer

>>48889098
Botan is similar situation as Mumei. The homobeggars literally pushed her away

>>48889342
Anon if you're going to try and make /#/ discuss your shitters at least use the term tempiss and homo to not out yourself as a beggar

>>48889234
She's only been doing buff content and avoided overlap for the most part.

>>48889342
wasn't he already jumping ship to his rm?

>>48889306
>Roberu...oh its holostars too
>leaves
>Changes subject
Why must unityfags subject the girls to this shit again and again. Did they honestly buy the bullshit about how girls all secretly love holostars but they're scared to do it? Even if that's the case, why put them in a situation where they have to confront that fear? What the fuck

>>48889234
No. She is just streaming less debuffed craps. Can't tell about her sub gains, though. Seems to still be 5,000 over last 30 days and 1,000 over last 7 according to HoloStats - that isn't much better than her usual 4,000 / 30 days and can be chalked to Mario tournament.

>>48889098
kek she immediately left after realising what it was

>>48889264
2view, just interact with her on her chat and on twitter for long enough until you become her mod and can get to her DMs in her discord
3view, give her a lot of money to become her mod and can get to her DMs in her discord
If she doesn't have discord you are fucked

>>48889234
it's a tiny bit better but still turbofucked, this was her first 1k tick in a week

>>48889342
Because /VT/ hard carried tempiss one debut with the maggin shit. Literally woke reddit the fuck up with the memes. Once /vt/ no longer cared about them homobeggars and sisters just dont make memes

>>48889445
It rings up the idea and continues the conversation. I guess.

If I was a holo I'd resent them taking studio time and thing lesser of them since my numbers are stronger.

>>48889098
lmaooooooo, I really can't wait for the homo update in holocure I wonder if Kiara will do her usual ''give me the early access'' for the numbers or she will ignore it kek

>>48889098
why does stars seen as plague in most of Hololive member eyes?

>>48889529
She was at 921k about a week ago and now she is up to 924k. Something got unfucked.

>>48889445
My guess? American modern mentality, it has /pol/ shit on it so the jist of it is: "Those who are successful should lower themselves to improve those who aren't" and Hologals and Stars it perfectly that mantra.

>>48888490
On holocure 3 maybe 4 members broke 20k every member broke 10k with some close to 20k if they weren’t awful and one single 30k. Holocure debut was before all the forced integration and attacks on the fans. I could be wrong but I believe it’s also the very last 20k solo game stream from someone other than Gura. I believe it’s kiara’s last solo 10k as well and a few others. Can’t really know if it’s less of a buff when all numbers collapsed

>>48889603
>Why does shit get treated as shit?
Out retarded homobeggar, out!

Was this the moment when Roberu or Tempiss stuff appeared and she ignored it?

>>48889579
>next update is ID
>after that is gens3&4
>then 5&6
>them EN3, ID4
>then JP7
We're getting homos sometime in 2026.

Why all the posting about holostars? There’s at least three different tangents going on in this thread about them, only one is slightly on topic about recent things.
I think any criticism is definitely justified, but it feels like the deflection focus of the day shifts to whoever is easiest to target, while niji and vshoujo et all. implode in the background

>>48889579
Didn't Kay yu say they'd probably only add holostars if all the girls were already in? I think that was just his way of letting down the beggars gently because it'll be years before all the girls get in with more debuts sooner or later.

>>48886159
It feels like you're underselling it way too much
>PL gets discovered
>boyfriend found (real name and photo of bf included, his facebook account now deleted)
>been together for 9 years (photo celebrating 9th anniversary from the bf's facebook)
>married for 2 years (confirmed by a tweet from the gay brother she talks about on stream)
>found the twitch account of the boyfriend
>pink whore using her PL account caught flirting with the boyfriend in his twitch stream in the middle of her donothon week (she got $20k btw)
>boyfriend, using the same identity, was seen joining pink whore's viewer participation dota streams (not as PL, but her current EIEN persona)
>is shown preferential treatment but her fans are none the wiser
>schizos dig up even more shit, a tweet from pink whore's (and her bf's) male friend saying "i finally have a solution for my old gaming chair"
>one of the rewards to the top donor of her donothon is "Kiki's old chair"
>anon shared a vivid description of the top donor huffing on Filipino ballsack musk
>also found old twitch clips from her PL with her shitting on parasocial fags (this is the only thing you linked to)
There's some other shit I didn't include like her lying about many things like first time having played this game, or clips of her as Kiki Lockheart saying she never dated or something because her parents doesn't want her to, but it's just the usual garbage by GFE grifters so who cares. It's a big deal to /eien/fags though because it shows how easily she lies. Oh and there's some NTR schizo shitting up the thread posting screenshots of Kiki's most dedicated fans being sweet to Kiki on the official corpo discord because "I enjoy people being sappy to the person that treated them like complete shit"
I have never encountered something like this in the EN scene. The grift is par for the course. Doing GFE for the easy money while shitting on parasocial cucks is cliche at this point. Don't forget the boyfriend, of course. However, the boyfriend joining the games during streams and then being given preferential treatment is just complete disrespect. They are fucking with the fans right in their faces. The chair is I don't even know what to say. I hope it's not real, personally. Crazy. 10/10 ntr. And while I typed all of this it just keeps going.
https://www.youtube.com/live/LvIOlmLuKH4?feature=share&t=3280

>>48889190
M CHADS

>>48889686
>EN3
Nah, that's happening after JP7.

>>48889445
American culture war shit. Twitter troons actually think the Hololive girls are "scared" of incel backlash if they collab with Holostars and not just losing their popularity since they know their main appeal.

I mean Botan is not GFE at all but she's not fucking stupid and isn't going to ruin her gravy train just to saviorfag some homos for literally no benefit. It's just dumbass western SJWs trying to force Hololive into the Twitch mold.

>>48889746
What about JP8 and ID5?

>>48889609
921k: April 16th
922k: April 24th
923k: April 28th
924k: May 6th
Again, it's a bit better but it's still pretty awful.

>>48889445
This is old at this point, but it summarises the mindset that these parasites have and it has changed.

>>48889342
Magging meme, when people found out who his rm was people thought Cover struck gold. Turns out he’s a bad streamer and he already gave up on creative streams.

>>48889675
Would be cute but no she saw him around the turn of the hour. I think that was Tutorial Pt 2

>>48889445
I think the way she acted was pathetic but each to their own. A literal video game, for god's sake

>>48889609
You are misremembering it. Last time she was at 921k was 23 Apr. She stayed at 922k and 923k between 24-27 Apr and 28 Apr - 5 May respectively according to Socialblade

>>48889772
Oh true, EN3 after those two.

>>48889675
no, that's where started the story mode tutorial

>>48889718
>>schizos dig up even more shit, a tweet from pink whore's (and her bf's) male friend saying "i finally have a solution for my old gaming chair"
>>one of the rewards to the top donor of her donothon is "Kiki's old chair"
>>anon shared a vivid description of the top donor huffing on Filipino ballsack musk

>>48889843
>>48889868
Thats a shame

>>48889698
Its the easiest way to derail this thread since fucking niggas can't stop thinking about cocks and idiots who bite bait. Weaponizing Stars has been the go-to for antis since forever.

>>48889718
This is why i'll never give the small corpos a chance. Shit like this, while this is extreme, is just way too common.

>>48889718
Eien speed running company closure, those paypigs she has left probably have a cuck fetish

>>48889806
b-b-but muh back hort

>>48889718
>However, the boyfriend joining the games during streams and then being given preferential treatment is just complete disrespect
They probably thought this was an incredibly funny inside joke for them kek
Hopefully the schizos don't fully dox them or their lives are going to be hell for the next couple months.

>>48889603
It wasn’t always a problem. It became a problem when they started getting forced down everyone’s throats. And all of JP ego searches so they see that their more passionate fans tend to like it. Made it very awkward for those taking a neutral stance

>>48889385
Mumei did her "I joined hololive for GIRLS" shit before tempus even got through their debuts. She avoids them for her fans

Will Kson play Idol Showdown?

>>48889718
Small corpos. Not even once.

>>48889718
>>one of the rewards to the top donor of her donothon is "Kiki's old chair"
>>anon shared a vivid description of the top donor huffing on Filipino ballsack musk
Jesus fucking Christ

>>48889705
Just having a 53 character roster for a video game is noteworthy enough

>>48890013
not a vtuber

>>48889698
You do realise that /#/ is the only hololive general or split that allows for active discussion of the male topic without being considered off topic? If you want to shit on tempiss you do it here or on the catalog, since /hlgg/ and the splits would rather not discuss them at all. Despite their consternations, globalfags will use /#/ to shitpost against them because they can.

>>48889995
Was that not after she had done that group collab with the JP stars and got completely put off by all the homobegging that came from that?

>>48889098

>>48889804
Does this mofo even buy ticket, merch and watch stream?

IRyS said Deez Nuts
its over...

HololiveEN reclined hard

>>48889804
>as a group
>community
f off

>>48889718
Took me awhile to figure out who this was about. "Pink whore" is too broad a description in the vtuber sphere.

>>48890051
Honestly I think Cover is probably itching to have him take a payday so they can take control of it. I think I remember them offering to take it off his hands in the past but he wanted to keep doing it for no money.

>>48890218
I still don't know who is it

>>48889579
>homo update
the important holos would stop playing by that moment

>>48890218
Pink woman always bad

>>48889326
Surprising that people don't understand this. It was the same shit with RUST.

>>48889686
EN3?

>>48890153
Probably watches clips or something sometimes.

>>48890259
2 more weeks

>>48890255

>>48889718
that chair part is savage
like holy shit that's funny

>>48890316
*As long as they're not a HoloJP
I'm sorry

>>48890248
when did cover offer to do that?

>>48889804
How do these people deal with the cognitive dissonance of demanding that Hololive become a Twitch clique with the fact that HoloJP is basically live streamed Idolmaster and it's so far above every other vtubing group in the world that the only group that approaches half its average CCV is HoloEN, the foreign branch of the same company?

>>48890259
EN3 is very soon. I'm not even joking. Expect them during summer.

>>48890316
This can't be allowed

>>48889718
couple of years from now there's got to be some netflix shit about a group of friends pulling some grift like that, can't make make this shit up man

>>48890316
Yes, even this one.

>>48890255
Excuse me, don't lump her with those whores.

>>48889749
>"scared"

unironically they do that's why they always commit the same mistake to addressed as mistake when management told them to just keep silent until they stop malding

>>48890447

>>48890452
Sir I adjusted my post >>48890356

>>48889718
The level of professionalism I expect from small corpos. Not the big ones don't have retards like this, but they're much better at filtering them out and telling them not to be fucking idiots.

>>48890392
Cope. EN3 is never coming.

>>48890218
>>48890252
>>48890255
Is it really so hard to follow the reply chain

>>48890365
Back when it first came out Kay Yu was talking about them trying to talk him into taking money. They either wanted him to monetize and take a cut or purchase it whole but he didn't really specify.

>>48890473
Just making sure.

>>48890502
didn't they spend weeks in some fancord circlejerking their paypigs?

>>48890392
you said this last year bro

>>48890529
???
Are you sure that was Cover he was talking about or just monetizing the game in a general sense?

This fighting game is actually pretty boring to watch.

>>48890571
Yeah they spent weeks on discord VC with em and then that privilege got taken away from the company owner.

>>48889749
It’s happening in Canada and Europe as well don’t only blame America.
>And enough with the this holomember isn’t gfe
There’s maybe 10 members tops that don’t love bomb their fans not counting id. Also have you heard botan do a draining kiss

>>48889686
The idea of more homos is DoA. They cratered and don't see any way of making them popular. EN getting put under JP's thumb should tell you all you need to know about how they're feeling about the choices that've been made leading up to this point.

>Ame 6k
>irys 7k
Looks like fighting games don't have much staying power as the gap narrows

>>48890648
Anyone who wasnt shitposting knew it was going to be a flash in the pan. It just doesnt have the same appeal as holocure

>>48890255
post that in /pink/ if you dare

>>48890377
>Suisei and Towa collab with the boys and their numbers have only gone up
You're inventing harm where there is none, unicorns like you are only a small, mentally-ill minority.

>>48890626
It wasn't presented in a negative way or anything. It was just about monetizing I think. I just think they saw a lot of potential in it. I'll try to find the tweet chain if it's still there.

>>48890615
This time it's different. A whole year bro? The time is right for them to push NEW talents for the stockholders.

>>48890703
Yeah, it's a one-and-done stream unless one of the girls really loves fighting games.

>drama, homodrama, fighting, shitposting
This ain't worth it anymore. For a bunch of women I will never talk to in my entire life

grass

>>48890818
>>>/v/

>>48890745
Towa is a midget outside of FPS and Suisei is one of a kind. Let's not pretend Suisei interacts with them more than 6 times a year.

>>48889718
Damn, what the hell. No wonder these girls occasionally end up stabbed by a fan, it's like they're daring it to happen.

>>48890755
Would greatly appreciate it, I must have missed it since I didn't follow Holocure stuff much until just before the game was released.

>why aren't fighting games more popul-
>joins online
>gets immediately BTFO without learning anything

This EIEN thing actually is actually making me start to worry that Cover can't find talent with the right "mentality" in the west

>>48890857
>pinoy
not by a fan, but they'd get stabbed and featured in some liveleak-tier video one way or another

>>48889718
>Just take the small corpo or indie pill bro
Western women have no fucking morals or shame at all wtf

>>48890648
Fighting games are only fun if they’re a sweat and then that gets boring after a hour because steam rolling is also boring

>>48890926
>western
It's a flip

>>48890856
>these examples don't count because reasons

>>48890891
All Western whores have bfs behind the scenes, some are just better at hiding it

>>48890891
All they need are people that are actually willing to follow some rules and not get ruled by their ego.

>>48890745
>Muh unicorns!
Screech all you want, has nothing to do with unicorns at all. People simply want CGDCT and not twitch style streamer drama.

>>48890891
they learn this mistake by not releasing EN3

>>48890979
Explain towa/fbk/suisei

>>48890891
Fucking vshojo had to fall back to their orbiters after those """auditions""" and even then, one of them got outright rejected/vetoed. Granted i'm most likely comparing apples to oranges here

>>48890392
>Myth : September
>Council : August
>Tempus : July
I can feel a new EN gen in June. Could be another male gen though

>>48890979
>people want CGDCT
DYRBI

>>48890973
>white women
>willing to follow some rules
yeah, good luck with that

>>48890891
Kinda hard to find people that geuninely care for Hololive as a whole, hell even Myth and Council have their outliers. The female streaming scene is broken to the core.

>>48890891
what happened?

>>48890891
English speaking Japanese is the only path forward for EN. The western whore experiment was a failure. No work ethic and irony poisoned.

>>48890979
Why did the mixed Uno c collab have more viewers than just council

>>48890974
Like whatever to a lot of fans, that's fine so long as they're hiding it off screen, but this chair shit is crazy, right?? Beyond the pale

>>48890966
it's SEA's mexico at this point

>>48890891
And yet it's JP that got talents fired for not following rules, not EN.

>>48890679
Third gen of homos is already confirmed, they can’t really back out of that one. Might stop recruiting for a while after they debut.

>>48890979
not anymore

>>48890967
>no such thing as trends and tendencies
It's not a binary thing. Think of it this way, most of HoloJP is inclining and the good majority that are don't really interact with them. Sora, Matsuri, Aki etc aren't doing better.

What do you want? Every single girl to do a collab with Holostars? Will that be enough?

>>48890648
And to play, it is a dying genre supported by a group of autists with too much time and dedication

I DEMAND AME TO STOP INCLINING

>>48890745
Most Holo fans simply don't want to watch the guys and their numbers reflect that. Collabing with males compared to anyone else would be a detriment. Keep begging.

>>48891115
The chair shit is messed up but this is a lesson to never go gachikoi for a woman online

>>48891092
>english speaking Japanese is the only path forward for EN.
Looks at nijisanji en ...

>>48891126
HomoEN3 coming out before EN3 will be a sight to behold. The branch would be done for at that point.

>>48890891
The problem right now in the west is that aspiring vtubers have this thinking that they are better than the old timers and whatever they do is fine.

>>48891112
Hey, don't shove my shitty country with those shitters. We don't backstab unless is for our survival.

>>48891086
... Scroll up, anon. >>48889718
And that's literally just the yab in this thread. Isn't this their 2nd or 3rd talent nuclear yabbing?

>>48890745
Yea towa didn’t go up after attaching herself to aqua and suisei it was definitely the homo fps. Suisei also used to barely be mid tier but miko and shiraken saved her

>>48890856
Got Towa backwards

>>48890974
JPs are the same but they usually don't post about relationships in socialmedia until they are going to marry so is way easier to hide

>>48891144
The girls could treat the boys just like they do other girls and it wouldn't impact viewership at all except for a handful of unicorns leaving. You're making up a doomsday scenario that doesn't exist.

>>48891261
But the homo stuff hasn't made them decline either

>>48891208
well, there's a duo of 2 english speaking japs on the market a few months ago.
they just so happen to be ex-tour guides

>>48891031
>>48891107
>>48891135
>>48891038
Fuck off beggars

>>48891031
>Explain these people whose majority of content doesn't involve males.

>>48891224
>flashbacks to december
I'd be in awe man

>>48891092
There is exactly 1 (ONE) vtuber like this that is good and that's Tenma from Phase Connect. That's it. If you want an example of how that actually goes in practice look at NijiEN's JP hires.

>>48891115
What chair thing?

>>48891085
People have been watching vtubers long enough to forget that the female streaming scene prior to 2019 was basically only e-thots showing as much of their tits as possible without getting banned and coombaiting. The number of women who are capable of doing something interesting or creative with their content is staggering low.

And before anyone says it I'm well aware a good portion of HoloJP were the same type of streamers but the difference is that after getting the Hololive platform most of them have managed to leverage it to become more interesting and diverse content creators. HoloEN really has not. If you let a Twitch thot into HoloEN they're not going to see the possibilities that have opened up they're only going to drain cucks as effectively as they can while minimizing content, see Gura.

>>48891278
True, never trust a woman who wants your money is the lesson to learn.

>>48891126
Stop shitposting, anon.

>>48891305
Not only are they English speaking Japanese, they're the sweetest pair of ex-idols. Like come fucking on, seal the deal already

>>48891352
Meloco is pretty good.

>>48891197
If some donothon whore is the one you gachi for you're a retard.

>>48891293
The tendency of girls who do not interact with them is an incline. The tendency of those that do is stagnation and decline. It isn't a doomsday scenario, it's reality that collabing with holostars does impact performance. Any audience lost is numbers lost.

>>48891242
Fuckkkkk this is Needy streamer overload levels of manipulation

>>48890377
> but tha boiz!
Its the classic western saviourfag mentality. They need to save the boiz from mediocrity and the girls from the incels.

>>48891361
Gura coming back just in time for peoples pay checks or shill merch will never stop being funny to me

>>48891361
Your point would have worked if you didn't mention Gura, she's not uninteresting or stagnant. She just doesn't fucking work for her sake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQTGhW6Qzlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQTGhW6Qzlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQTGhW6Qzlc

>>48891385
They’ve been looking for Homo 3 since December.

>>48891361
>another jpkek with an unironic "it's ok when jps do it" post

>>48891441
Sure she was dumb but this just reaffirms they all have shit they're hiding

>>48891444
>The tendency of girls who do not interact with them is an incline. The tendency of those that do is stagnation and decline.
>Towa growing faster than any gen 4
>Suisei growing faster than any gen 0
>Fubuki growing faster than any gen 1
Lol

>>48891385
there was some homostars auditions announcement tweet that happened during the tempoop's youtube accounts being created and their official announcement window iirc

>>48891359
From earlier in this very thread
>schizos dig up even more shit, a tweet from pink whore's (and her bf's) male friend saying "i finally have a solution for my old gaming chair"
>one of the rewards to the top donor of her donothon is "Kiki's old chair"

>>48891505
>she's not uninteresting or stagnant.
You sure? Can you point to anything she's done this year that is interesting or creative?

>>48891293
>it wouldn't impact viewership at all except for a handful of unicorns leaving.
It won't help the boys and just lose some viewers for the girls. Losing viewers for nothing is stupid

>>48890101
I saw multiple discussion about tempiss in hlgg not getting deleted.

>>48889326
She's working on a project right now.
That was never the issue.
The point of why MC has such a large draw is interaction with other members and Ame is not very social.
When Fauna is streaming it's often an impromptu collab by coincidence or design.

you know what i just noticed?
women love to lie for some reason.
they also gaslight themselves into believing their own lies as truth.

>>48891515
>Open auditions just like how EN was open after Council
Good luck with that shitpost-kun

>>48891520
Your objections ring hollow when we're less than 24 hours off the back of Pekoras fifth 100k stream for the year and Gura is still nowhere to be seen.

>>48891563
Chumpeds think the act of streaming is some magical act because gura does it like twice a month

>>48891543
>>48891618

Only in vtuber scene that forcing females to interact with males is righteous. In other jobs, it would be called as harassment

>>48891617
Kronii, Mumei, Fauna and Bae all lie about different things. Only Bae's lie is tolerable.

>>48891571
Losing toxic viewers in exchange for less mental stress, being able to do more varied content and have more fun on stream? Sounds like a win.

>>48891634
Nah, I'm not a chumbud and >>48891563 is right I cannot recall anything she has done from the past few months or even last year. If anything she's going the way of Pikame.

>>48891633
>pekora vs gura out of nowhere
nice to see yet another confirmation that the ones bringing up this timeloop are not nijikeks but jpkeks

>>48891634
Name at least 35 vtubers that stream more than twice a month.
I accept your concession

>>48891617
This entire board is nothing but gasligthing and lying for drama.
Is it filled with women?

>Haha my top fan will get to smell my boyfriends nutsack

jesus christ. This is like the plot of some cuck fetish doujin.

>>48891540
>Towa growing faster than any gen 4
Nice joke.

>>48889718
I still remember when EIEN debuted, i told you guys that their behavior was similar to Veibae and even though this board allows it, i would never acknowledge them as vtubers because they are just some street hookers with a vtuber avatar.
Good thing i wasn't mistaken.

>>48891582
I seen porn not get deleted.

>>48891694
Only in the vtuber scene will unicorns pretend that forcing women not to interact with men is a good thing.

>>48891540
>>Towa growing faster than any gen 4
Kanata actually. Towa has platued.
>Suisei growing faster than any gen 0
Yes, it works for her. Many things work for her. Not a significant part of her content if you follow her. Also Suisei's CCV hasn't jumped much but Miko's has. Miko is one of the few holos who went on record to say she wouldn't collab with the stars.
>Fubuki growing faster than any gen 1
No, she's declined from last year and is stagnant at best. Also gen 1 is full of people declining, it's like being the best looking person with down syndrome.

>>48891744
A sister? You should know a penis can grow erect very quickly

>>48891726
>Out of nowhere
We're comparing JP and EN and Pekora and Gura are the two top talents of their respective branches. Please keep the coping and deflection to a minimum and address the topic at hand. What has Gura done this year that is noteworthy other than running for the title of the longest period without streams in Hololive.

>>48891765
Go back to twitter Kris, dont you have some boys to save from 3view hell

How can we save en from reclining to indie numbers?

>All this shitpost about Botan react to Roberu
Idk what the fuck do people on both sides wanted her to do actually?
Like, she never interact with him before, so there's nothing more to say rather than "Oh, he's from Holostar" then go on

As an unityfag, I'd say she handled that as good as possible

>>48891242
second, first one was Riifu but honestly there wasn't much lying there, she doxxed herself in like a second, everyone knew what was what and then just streamed a bunch of videogames and pandered to coomers until something about the corpo spooked her and she broke off
Kiki makes me really appreciate covers hiring process though, glacial as it may be because I think yagoo would jump into oncoming traffic rather than welcome her home

>>48891711
What a sad beggar you are.

>>48891540
>Towa growing faster than any gen 4
Forget someone?

>>48891817
>comparing two branches where one gets all the money and support in the world from management and the other is ignored and even sabotaged to cripple all their projects and events
Okay retard

Homobeggars got BTFO by Irys now back to Gura seeth/Homo topics/cuck posts.

>>48891817
jpkeks are really the scum of this thread

>>48889342
He's a post-production kind of artist, just like Polka

>>48891735
Men lie too but women lie about different things
>>48891617
It's in their nature to deceive men

>>48891787
Kanata and Watame trade off depending on what they have going on. Kanata's 30 day tic is about to slip down to 10k and Watame is about due for a tick up to 20k. It's been like this for a year.

We sure have some coordinated homobegging everytime a homo shitposting fails for the day

>>48889326
Not to mention

>>48891903
I honestly wish they'd learn, but apparently we have to put up with their nonsense

>>48891817
But we know Gura is smaller than Ironmouse, so we have to compare IM and Pekora.

>>48891903
why would they care about a literal who like irys? without buff games shes reclined to 5-6k status

>>48891851
>>48891903
What do people from both sides expect them to go? Go horny for him? Only bae will do that

>>48889348
Japanese company, they look at changes and the higher ups have a heart attack

>>48891361
>number of women who are capable of doing something interesting or creative with their content is staggering low

even then, some will gradually turn to coomershit when a crumb of clout is on the table
>t. used to watch giri, coomered up and started orbiting vshojo

>>48891961
Imagine Fauna and Watame having a potato chip tasting and tier ranking stream

will nijisanji play idol showdown?

>>48891894
>>48891950

>>48891511
AAAAAIEEEEEE

I'm curious if Homobeggars are actually e-celebs fags too. Somehow I feel that this board is already infected e-celebs things

>>48891361
Retard

>an unityfag
Is this the /vt/ version of 'trolling is a art'?

>>48891961
They don't want to learn, they want to see people who don't like Tempus seethe. Not because they like Tempus but because they don't like Hololive fans.

>>48889718
>boyfriend
>married for 2 years
You're confusing me here. Is this a boyfriend or a husband?

you know...
maybe waiting for cover to release EN3 or look for girls fit for EN3 is the right call.
hell, i think they should go for hags as well.
because at least a hag wouldn't put her husband's or boyfriend's sweaty ballsack gaming chair as a top dono reward.
honestly disgusting

Did IRyS react to Roberto?

>>48891959
Oh nyo that would be grounds for a suspension in a certain other black company

>>48890966
>flip
Fuck that worst than western

>>48891950
Watame only has the "it's 4 in the morning and I've lost control of my life" audience.

>>48891896
ENs problem is that they're lazy whores. Nothing to do with management. ID has done projects with their own summer festival. You don't need "money" or "support" to do something like that, only time. It's absurd you're pretending Gura who can't even manage to stream twice a week is somehow being hamstrung from all the great projects she has lined up when she can't even do the fucking basics.

>>48892024
Watame already did that with Kiara. A shame.

>>48891959
DID YOU JUST INSULT A GAME WE GOT PERMISSIONS FOR?
TWO WEEK BREAK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>48891694
Vtubing is pretty much the only thing where not interacting with the opposite sex is a thing.

>>48890891 >>48890973 >>48890974 >>48890999 >>48891034 >>48891085 >>48891086 >>48891092 >>48891122 >>48891225

Unironically Cover should pull another Myth and hire people outside of the streaming scene

>>48891711
Poor pekora is so stressed out...why wont they let her do a PekoXAruranXFlayon collab. Darn those unicorns. Not allowing them to make their own decisions

>>48891293
Delusional. Hololive is just strong enough to shoulder a few exceptions, that's it. Their core audience is still after the cgdct content they got used to.

>>48892069
Yeah she said his name. Scandalous

>>48892098
Yeah you conveniently forgot how management butchered her 3D birthday live, now fuck off

>>48891959
Temporal suspension when?

>>48892018
Coomer here, fuck vshojo and anything similar or adjecent to it. If I want to fap I'll look for content that is fappable not a fucking random stream. If I want to watch a fucking stream I want to watch it for entretaiment not fapping.

>>48892085
Keep moving that goalpost.

>>48892069
she said oh it's roberu and forget to add the senpai ending. my schizo brain takes that as they have fucked and bae got cucked. nothing fucking happened

>>48892065
Can't help but feel bad the girls don't have more collab partners though.
Cover, just hire the GGN girls for the next Vsinger project as a stopgap

>>48892059
i guess people here are just too used to calling the SO boyfriend even when already married

>>48892163
Not your company, sisters

>>48892132
I know people want ES Vtubers but that is just no bueno. It's the most toxic scene there is.

females evolved as liars to survive in an environment were they are vulnerable without someone protecting them
lying is their nature
males evolved to eat lies to get laid

>>48892164
According to who? Gura? The lazy whore in question? Yeah not believing that shit and even if it was true how long do you think you can keep milking that shit for?

>>48892132
Streamers are brain broken people so I agree

>>48892132
They probably are. Worked with Kobo at least.

>>48891540
one of them was a solo 3D live and the other one had lots of other Holos btw

>>48892132
>gets another sana
congrats, now what?

>>48892189
No one likes her, they like minecraft.

>>48891851
this board is filled with retards on both sides wanting to fling shit at each other, even when common sense like what you said gets thrown in their face.

>>48892263
Keep seething

>>48891959
Someone better let Ame know she's got a "vacation" she needs to go on

>>48891851
Best move is to not play.

>>48892193
Didn't irys bring up Roberto to tease bae in chadcast once? No one cared then either

>>48892279
Find girls outside of streaming that are willing to do the Hololive job full-time.

>>48892132
they need dedicated streamers who fill the dead hour
if they do the same things they do with Myth we gonna have more guras and even more sanas

Koyori just started if anyone wanted to watch something while shitposting on /#/

>>48892132
It might be the reason EN3 wont happen

>>48892272
>Kanata has mentally ill paypigs who will viewfarm
You're as delusional as her unicorns if you think that is indicative of real popularity.

>>48891851
Publicly denounce the holostars, make fun of their numbers, and make snarky remarks on how she's subsidizing them.

>>48891942
As long as they're not post-modernist kind of artists! That's where I draw the line, Yagoo

>>48892279
Sans was a streamer though, just like Ina

>>48892272
one of them also got an entirely new outfit

>>48892263
Why can't Gura be like Ironmouse, streaming from deathbed and doing her best? IM is GOAT

>>48892293
>t.nijifag

>>48892301
>seething
That's you chumcuck. All I'm doing is pointing out facts and you're using every cope in the book to try and avoid admitting the problem with EN is that Gura wants to effectively milk her cucks and not output any content. New members stream soon bud, keep that membership warmed up Gura needs your NEETbux.

>>48892263
>Adored by Marine, Okayu and Koyo.
>Liked by Migo and Pekora
Its over anon......... the lazy shart has the higher ground

>>48892311
Or not care about a 5s pixel cameo. If it was a random anime guy no one would care like plenty of other games out there

>>48890891
>>48891085
No there have been a few debuts in the last year or so who have their oshi as marine, miko, watame, and one other. Some have en oshi’s but less trustworthy to me. Gura in particular has a fiercely loyal female fan base. The real problem is success people obviously aren’t fit for it. JP has had 2 members and en like 4 so it’s definitely a western thing. Of all the current English corpos my ideal en3 is

>Nami(Kawaii), Remi(Phase), Miori(indie), Ranna(vreverie), Pochi(idol)
Nami is the absolute least likely so 4 person debut

>>48892402
>>48892386
>>48892320
>>48892162

>>48891743
No. Not the balls of the man who gets to bang her. Their the balls of her friend

So Nijis, how's the steam cards? How I can join to win them?

>>48892416
Keep coping last samurai, JPs love Gura.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH65doyUNlY

Carlito shot some needle? HE HUGE!

>>48892402
Laziness, she was like this before Hololive too. Ghosted her fans and took money for stuff but never delivered

>>48891135
How many female streamers beat that on the English side?

>>48892420
>None of them are even remotely threatened by her since she never does anything their fans would watch
>They get to trot her out as the mascot for their 3Ds for an easy numbers boost
Gura is the personal jester of the JPs, she's used for her model and then discarded

>>48892481
Wrong board buddy

>>48892279
I'd take my chance with Sana rather than people like Vshojos desu
At least Sana didn't do any harm, outside of, well, want to focus on Chinese gacha money

>>48892132
I dunno if I'd call any of them non-streamers before hololive except maybe mori unless I missed some reps, even gura and ina weren't exactly frequent or consistent but they did dabble
unless you actually meant the words you typed specifically about people outside the streaming scene in which case I agree but at the same time the scene is now both bigger and much smaller than it used to be, it's hard to find a handful of random girls who are the proper kind of unstable rather than ballsack chairseat sellers

>>48892427
I mean there's hope somewhere but the odds are low. We just unironically need hope.

>>48892272
Heimin sure are some retards.

>>48892528
It's obvious how pekora tried using her for numbers

>>48892342
>they need dedicated streamers who fill the dead hour
Then they will have to deal with the Twitch scene, and I don't think they want to do that

>>48889749
>Botan is not GFE
Funniest shit ever. She and Polka as both the kind who says "I don't mind If you watch other girls" while in the next day makes an intimate ASMR or have a zatsudan that makes you feel it's a wife talk to you(her husband) about her day.

>>48892475
What happened to the arc where Okayu built her house next to Guras? Oh right fucking nothing. Another storyline opportunity wasted by ENtards. Atlantis stands half finished while Okayu has built up Dorabo Kensentsu and done an entire map art for it.

>>48892416
Do you know when Ironmouse is doing her next Concert? I wanna watch real content and I know you too

>>48892259
>males evolve to be cucks
Today I learned a new thing in the number thread.

>>48892385
imagine thinking towa is the best in her gen. She’s the worst yonkisei numberwise (luna is more consistent numberwise) but she just got more recognition because of Startend and EOPs

So when will get to the doxx posting since the baits rn are too lame so just fast foward to the doxx post.

>>48892619
Because JP knows it's an "Experince" while EN seems to forget that part

>>48892632
for her 6 year vtubing anniversary in august or her birthday next year

>>48892697
in one hour when SEA wakes up

>>48892693
Towa gets to leech off Suisei, Aqua and Pekora. She would be the worst performing Gen 4 by far if she didn't have the exposure from those collab groups.

>>48892697
I wonder why they even Dox post, it only makes them look like they are in need of validation for their believes.

>>48892619
I like Koyori who explicitly tells yo not to cheat on her. She even recaps other girls' streams so you don't have to watch them.

>>48892693
thats not even true retard

>>48890973
>Western women
>not being ruled by ego
The human body is about 60% water. A woman's body is about 70% ego.

>>48892563
the issue is all the types of girls that filled the space the myth girls filled just became streamers
Look at council, ignoring Sana, they were predominately youtubers first, then myth debuted and they started streaming to boost their reps

>>48892697
Mumei has Marcel
Fauna has Eddy
IRyS has Brian
Their punishment for hiding that during auditions is EN3 being delayed while do they fill background checks

>>48891563
>>48891634
Ignoring you changing your point why did you pick Gura? Why not Kiara, Kronii, Ame?

>>48892272
>VoDCOPE

why can't cover release 3 girl gens like ID but for the EN side? it would make searching and deciding on who makes it easier and if there is any decent talents that didn't make it in at first they wouldn't have to wait too long for the next gen.

would you guys rather:
1. Have EN3 this year but, 2 out of 5 are homo collaber, the other 3 are straight out twitch whores
2. Wait until next summer for EN3

>>48892801
I wasn't that guy

>>48892528
That’s hot

>>48892834
2, Easiest choice in my life.

>Botan isnt GFE
.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBfXjNFo3Mo

btw i agree she didnt start like this, she literally got pushed back by homo beggars(eceleb shitters too) and she ended up choosing unity with Gen5 over that

>>48889718
Jesus...

This is the first time I'll agree that Cover needs EN3 now. Not because for the fans, but because there are girls right now in EN that are just coasting too frequently and they need a big wake up call. When EN3 drops I hope they are good and get popular some of those that are coasting get a whiplash of reality.

>>48892793
Cgdct bros being the most cucked, sad

>>48892834
2. Not a hard choice

>>48892834
>1
I'd give up this hobby desu, try out biking, idk

>>48892889
based hag sex

>>48892834
2. Wouldn't even be mad if the larger EN fanbase withers by then

new ens will fall below ironlungs numbers

>>48892132
They should’ve done the same for tempiss

>>48892931
Their boyfriends forbid them from collabing with other guys

>>48889749
Their cope has progressed from
>We just need to push the Holostars everywhere.
to
>We just need to whiteknight Hologirls against parasocials.
and finally they've arrived at
>We just need to doxx the girls and call them all grifting liars with as much proof as we can muster.
As expected, there was no way the beggars would end up as anything but antis to Hololive and female vtubers in general.

>>48892801
Because Gura is the top EN by far. What has Kiara done? Nothing but endless boring as shit pseudo zatsus. What has Kronii done? Nothing but shit on her fans over and over while she ingratiates herself with the Hololive anti twitter troons she loves so much. What has Watson done? Fuck all but pretend to be an indie back on twitch. None of them have anything that was actually worth watching in 2023 so far.

I use Gura because inevitably in these discussions ENfags like to pretend Gura is the entirety of EN because she's the only one who can still get good numbers. Looking at the rest of EN makes it look even more grim. Mori's numbers are fucking appalling for the third most subbed member of Hololive.

>>48892693
>just got more recognition
Surprise surprise you fucking bellend that is what fame is, Towa is the most famous gen 4 now that Coco is gone, your shitty CCV-jerking is meaningless

lapu got bae sick.

>>48892834
>the other 3 are straight out twitch whores
I'd take my chances with this if it wasn't for the homocollabers. Twitch whores tend to know how to be professional in their whorishness. Twitch bitches on the other hand are a completely different thing.

>>48893039
Hot

>>48892889
Homobeggars are their worst enemy. People will always choose the path if less resistance

>>48892834
2 easily.

>>48892394
One of them reached a million much earlier

>>48893068
>Twitch whores
Amouranth?
>Twitch bitch
Veibae?

>>48893031
those people aren’t loyal viewers and just watch her because x might appear

>>48892889
Botan isn't GFE. She's a videogame variety streamer. If Botan counts as GFE then so does Matsuri, which is absurd.

>>48892385
>>48892394
>>48892588
>>48892803

Cope, i dont even hate Towa. Fact is that Kanata just has better numbers over all. You get fooled by Towa's 3D lives ccv because she always brings shit tons of other popular holos.

>>48893124
One of them is one minute longer

>deleted

homobeggars thinking twap is the biggest yonkisei when it’s actually kanata.

>>48892834
Why not 2 homo collabers and 3 cgdct?

>>48892834
Somehow I doubt that they're improving EN3's lineup by waiting.

>>48893330
>cgdct
>In 2023 EN
Yeah, might as well call it dip and learn JP anon

>>48893224
Then Botan counts. There are different type of GFs anyways

>>48893308
i guess it got deleted because it's technically RM posting

Irys is gonna slip btw

>>48893028
No you picked Gura because you’re a schizo.

>>48892936
clearly, you dont even have any good advice to pump out of your ass
>thinking this hobby is bad is a normies way of coping with their terrible life

>>48893224
Cucks exist

>countdown to 1M fron luca
>6k peak
jesas they really filter their fans somehow

God Bae's new outfit is so shit

>another Luxiem 1m
>Council hasn't even reached 900k yet
Total Luxgod victory

>>48893028
Kiara done more for hololive than Gura. Without Kiara Myth might just fell apart after 1 year into their career.

>>48892793
You forgot Martin and Hatman.

>>48893242
kanatas also spammed a lot more short videos that gather views easier than towa if you want to boil it down to pure views, and a difference of 100k subscribers really isnt that much

>>48893470
god matsuri teasing just makes my dick so hard.

Did IRyS seriously bleed 1k viewers to Bae?

>>48891293
Or they could ignore them. They're just a splinter group with a wholly different audience.

>>48893194
Nah, I think people like Shylily and Nihmune for the whores. Veibae, yeah, fits on bitches.

Ok there are 3 ways to get a popular stream in NijiEN
1) Speak Chinese or pander to Chinese speakers
2) Involve the males in some way
3) drama-focused stream

Literally the only source of popularity in NijiEN is the chinese female audience. The entire branch revolves around pandering to them.

>>48892664
That westerner to you.

>>48893559
>it isnt that much
we are talking who is top of gen 4 tho? Kanata beats Towa in CCV too btw

>>48891361
>they're only going to drain cucks as effectively as they can while minimizing content, see Gura
Kys JPnigger

>>48892834
I don't give a fuck about homo collabs, so two shots to get someone who might be interesting is better then nothing, but 3 whores might actually damage the company and affect my oshi, so maybe the 2nd though you don't specify if they're any better.

>>48893601
>NijiEN (North America (China))
They laughed, but it was true.

>>48893596
even better or worse, nihmune ackshually larps as some totally virgin dork so people eat up her act even more

>>48893601
>1) Speak Chinese or pander to Chinese speakers
hex literally does this and he had a sub 3k birthday coutndown

>>48893531
he’s the third one right?

What the fuck is going on? Luca is losing viewers like crazy

>>48893587
Bae probably could have beaten IRyS if she started first. Why do you think IRyS set up her stream earlier than she has in a month?

>>48893601
Not true, there is also the SEA region, who is well known to be very lucrative and extremely profitable.

>>48893438
>t. Holoschizo

>>48893590
They're co-workers at the same company and you're arguing that they shouldn't be allowed to work together.

>>48893533
Gura reached a million in 40 days and 2 million in another 88 days. What did Kiara have to do with that

>>48893495
>devoid of the NijiJP box
>devoid of tourists
>current NijiEN box

That’s all he gets

>>48893658
exactly
my point is that whatever larp they do, they commit to it without going after their viewers
just being whorish and the like

>>48893587
irys really is a shitter