/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48856632
Rie? I wouldn't really say she focus on fighting games when the last time she played one was I believe 2 weeks ago.

>>48856446
I should had added a previous thread
>>>48805097

>Ayame_fan5325(BR)

>>48856810
Is she going to play Idol Showdown?

>>48848732
My friends don't play fighting games and I'm usually too shit to play online, so story mode will always be my first go to. Idol Showdown's being like one of those roguelike card game thingies is definitely a smart move and does wonders for replayability, hope they expand on it.

you know overall the presentation is really good and impressive but having no (unique) win quotes is really weird, I don't know if I've ever even seen a fighting game without win quotes

>>48857373
Well at least the holos have something to play on stream instead of just being wrecked live all day by no livers

>>48856446
>Discuss Idol vtubers
But what is an idol?

>>48857615
a miserable little pile of yabs

>>48857615
Those willing to fight with their own fists to prove their dedication.

>>48857435
Seems like something they must have forgotten considering Hololive games are golden quote mine

I can't believe Ayame mains are already the most hated just after a day upon release

>>48857715
jesus what the they do?

>>48857715
and yet, it is so fitting it might have even been done on purpose

>>48857435
Given what Botan is doing now, all they'd need to do is ask her for one and she'd do it.

>>48857840
She's the gorilla of the game.

>>48857912
ah no wonder

Luna next or Argentina will burn

>>48858018
Next character is all but confirmed to be Pekora.

>>48857840
easy modo

>mfw I kill someone with the Risu Express

>>48858049
There are three coming, one of those better be Luna or Mc Donalds employees in Buenos Aires will know noche de cuchillos

>>48857840
>crouch
>spam down H
>lifts you and combos 15x
>repeat
>repeat
>repeat

Not only that, Ayame in arcade mode is a fucking bitch

Do wrestling games count as fighting games?

>>48858018
Luna about to be like Alice Margatroid from Touhou Hisoutensoku

>>48858377
Leaker here, next besides Pekora will be Ina and Anya with Petra assist
You heard it here first

>>48857840
you can faceroll with Ayame and stand a decent chance of winning

>>48858760
Anya is already in the game as an item in the roguelike mode though. Either the rest of the roster is gonna be all JP or there'll be one ID and one EN for representation.

Wait so Fubuki is meant to be a shoto but has gacha mechanics on her moves????
She's more like Dan than Ryu or Ken

>>48858780
Ayamecopter

>>48858949
t. My dad works at hololive

>>48858996
>Dan
What is the point of joke characters anyway?

>>48858760
Are anyaposters actually behind every new general? I thought that was a meme.

>>48859802
Have you noticed that despite anya fans being 3% of the population they get 30% of all Hololive Global ops?

good god

>>48859802
They most likely just show up in any general that uses global in their name because thats how they search for their own thread

>invincible dp vacuums and leads into a 50% combo
ok

>>48856446
>Thread about Fighting Game Chuubas
>No ShimadaTiger
boo, i will now anti your thread

>>48860364
>ShimadaTiger
who?

>botan mirrors

>>48860364
Is she an idol? If so I will add her to the op next thread then
You have to give proof of being an idol

room doko?

>people crying about Ayame and Botan
>when Sora exists
https://twitter.com/nagakura_FAL/status/1654834040405630979

https://twitter.com/eda_makoto/status/1654864049744801795
Someone did a day 1 tournament with Aki taking first and Botan second

>>48861341
How likely it is that everyone got the tiers wrong?

>>48859992
I think Idol Showdown needs a graphic revamp. That Botan one was so off-modeled.

>>48861460
small indie game pls understand

>>48861394
0%, considering it's one tournament and everyone is still getting used to it, and also botan is top tier

>oshi didn't make the base roster
>probably won't be be part of the DLC either
Hold me bros

>>48861780
Botan can stun lock you into a combo with the possibility of quickly switching sides so you can't even expect where she will attack from, and on top of that, she has a broken M engage that covers half of the screen despite being a zoner. I would call for a nerf already

>>48860364
>>48860567
TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER
TIGER UPPERCUT

> Open stream with a cute girl avatar
>it's a male
>close stream
>repeat

playing against a coco what is that move where it looks like shes about to trip suppose to do? i keep seeing it and it doesnt seem like it does anything so I keep punishing them for doing it

>>48859497
God's oldest option select, anon. If you lose, you can blame it on your joke character. If you WIN, then they lost to the joke character and they should feel bad.

>>48863047
>"Esse jogo é melhor que Street Fighter"
>"This game is better than Street Fighter"

Dude had to be brazilian

>>48863290
I assume its a grab. Coco has 5 different grabs from what I remember.

>>48863047
This one is a girl but she's a chink
https://www.twitch.tv/trochilidae1

>>48863444
>chink playing a game where Coco is a playable character

lol
lmao even

>>48863605
most likely taiwanese

>>48863290
If you're talking about the cartwheel, it's supposed to be leading to a grab. But it has no invincibility whatsoever so Coco is low tier...

So ame is the best assist right?

>>48863969
Miko

>>48856446
I don't care if she's strong or weak, i'm using Sakura as my collab. I can't help but chuckle when I user 214S and i hear her little screech

>>48864546
Love will make you stronger

>>48864546
>i'm using Sakura as my collab
Who??

>>48864546
the smear frames in her animations combined with her screeching had me dying

>immediately detects my DS4 and shows PS buttons instead of the keyboard mapping
It's always the little things.
Also why does Suisei's 22H never hit

i gotta say i'm pretty surprised at the quality of the game.
i was expecting something along the lines of a mediocre ps1 fighters, but it really has a lot going for it.
sprites could be better though

>>48865313
It's pretty good for an indie
does the developer has experience with fightan?

>No ina announcement yet

Fuck ayames yo

EVERY SINGLE MATCH IS AGAINST AYAME, FUCKING STOP I WANT TO HAVE FUN.

>>48859992
looks like pogchamp kek

>>48865530
Learn to burst and counter

>>48865463
There's a nonzero chance she gets in as an assist

>>48865530
I'm sure they will fix stuff in the week one patches. I'm sure the worst of the scuff is now past behind us and the future looks bright.
After all, what's the worse that could happen?

Why steam if it's free, I don't need nor want a launcher for it

>>48865987
They are using steam servers for matchmaking, becasue there's no way they can pay for and maintain a proper server network on their own for 10k people

>>48866015
Ah, it's ok then

>>48866015
Ain't no way all 10k of those are playing online but valid point.

>>48865753
>inassist

Any one knows which holo is going to play it next?

>>48866332
rushia

>>48866332
IRyS will stream it in less than 7 hours and Rrat in less than 9, while Ollie will play it tomorrow. That's it for those who already put up waiting rooms.

>>48866332
the retard duo, irys and bae. hopefully ogaman plays it again. the guy at least knows how to play fighting games

>>48866423
Honestly the only reason kson isn't playing it is probably vshojo restrictions

>>48866672
>vshojo restrictions
But muh talent freedom?

Never thought I'd ever hear Botan saying LET'S GO JUSTIN on stream.

>>48866884
FREEDOM TO LEAVE

>>48860608
How long until fanart of Happy Chaos x Botan pops up

>>48867617
Surprised Botan isn't getting as many antis as Ayame

>>48867744
she's top tier if used correctly but she isn't "Faceroll into victory" tier that Ayame is so she isn't as dominant in the matchups right now

>>48868123
>It's all ayame all the time
Hololive bizarro fighter

I should find my arcade stick.

>>48868123
I'm more worried about Sora unbreakable combo bo on + even if you block
>>48868247
Arcade sticks are shit use keyboard

How do I not get hit by Coco riding the dinosaur?

>>48868287
Jump.

>>48866068
>Those 10k? all me

Majin Obama is playing Idol Showdown, one of the devs is on his chat and he's shitting on the game at him directly.
Pretty funny.

>>48868356
Indie dev life I guess

Anyone know how to unlock the 5 color cosplay?

>>48868287
every one of her grabs (except the anti-air one) is dodgable by jumping

>>48861460
I like most of the sprite work, but Botan's face at the end of her 2 meter hurts my soul.

I want to play this game fuck fuck fuck fuck life fuck this third world shithole I have a laptop but It only has wifi ports goddamit

>>48868269
>arcade sticks are shit use keyboard
there is a reason to why most professional players use one

>>48869178
they use hitbox

>>48863047
It's not easy to be a man...

My GPU is fucked. If I try to run games the GPU turns off my computer randomly.
It crashes in Strive's lobby, but I managed to play Granblue for one hour, but then I did the Backdash blue thingy and had my pc turn off.
I thought I would have little to no problem seeing how light IS is, and I was right until I picked Ayame. I can play all characters except her, when she comes into my screen my gpu commits suicide lol
so now I have to dodge all Ayame players
Odd situation to be in

So should I use the arrows of my joystick or the stick?

>>48869308
Just cut your dick and do your voice reps
I don't know why the fighting games ones don't even try to pass

>>48869391
You know that not all of tubers using a female avatar are pretending to be a woman right? Babinikus exist

>>48869178
Comfort, they grew up used to them or just got one because they looked fun to play and stood with it.
Of course each controller is different, but there's no controller that is 'the best'
>but muh hitbox!
if it was, more peopl would play it. the fact it does not dominate in any game means that if there is an advantage to the controller, it's minimal to the point of being insignificant.

>>48869454
True but they should cut their dicks anyway and do voice reps for the sake of numbers

Does anyone have any advice for playing Suisei in Idol Showdown? It says she's meant to be up close and personal, but I don't know which moves I should be using. All of her attacks seem to be mid-range and designed to close in from a distance. I don't know what exactly to do once I'm in range.

>>48868997
Embrace you legacy young one

>>48869634
Will Brazillian Kens find a way to fuck up SF6 netcode?

>>48869347
Are you that one guy without a videocard too

>>48869763
No anon, don't think so

I want to wish all Ayame mains a very special:
FUCK YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE HAVE ANY SKILL, YOUR CHARACTER IS JUST PLUS ON EVERYTHING AND HAS BIGGER HITBOXES THAN JUSTIFIED.

>>48869686
>brazil uh finds a way

>>48862731
>I would call for a nerf already
Botan deserves all the tools she gets because if you pressure her even a little bit, she just fucking dies.
Honestly she needs better "get off me" options when she's on the defense.
Buff Botan.

>>48869835
I DIDNT WANT THIS OK AYAME IS JUST MY OSHI HAVENT I SUFFERED ENOUGH?
LET ME BE WITH HER AT LEAST IN THE GAME

>>48869929
Motherfuckers going to be using McDonald's wifi just to make sure the rollback is working fulltime to fix their bullshit.

I actually like most of the sprites but holy shit what the fuck is this Korone? What are this proportions, she looks like some alien cosplayer wearing Korone's skin

>>48869987
It sounds like Ayame needs to be put in her place yet again.

>>48869987
Ayame needs Nerf Correction.

What do you think about Botan's feedback about her VA? Personally I don't like the lines and voice she want to put in the game but it's true that her current lines are kind of boring and low compared to other members
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QdVxqaWp_4

>>48870278
The only thing I'd change is a better death scream and more giggles.

>>48870278
I think Botan's lines are perfect and she doesn't understand the point of her lines being so emotionless. It's because she's super laid back, cool, and badass. Putting emotion into her lines ruins that awesome vibe.

>>48869582
I really haven't figured it out. I think her 236L is supposed to get you in and then you just hope for the best.

>>48870278
Damn the girls are providing VA for free

>>48870370
turning up the volume of her lines wouldn't hurt tho

>>48870110
>iroha is put in the game but it's just vergil

>>48870532
Would you expect anything different?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VsQRpd65E

Is there any specific design reason to not have air gatlings?

Went into online with Sora for the heck of it since she's the only character I've never seen and end up going into a mirror match. Funny how that works

>>48866480
Still clacking at Oga getting wrecked by a super armor Korone haha

Also fuck, doesn't work on an old optiplex 780, was worth the try.

>>48870429
I mean they literally gave two of their years to make a game with an insane amount of content for the price of nothing. This game would have been acceptable at just having a roster that goes into a match and yet it went above and beyond.

I think the crazy thing is WE ARE STILL MAKING MORE CHARACTERS. I kinda actually genuinely want to give them money at this point. If anybody knows how, I'd love to contribute.

>>48870771
Yeah if they have donos opens I would donate, I need my oshi in

>>48870771
>If anybody knows how, I'd love to contribute.
They can't accept compensation. Cover prevents that.

>>48870771
Meanwhile I gave 2 years of my life to shitposting in this board
no regrets

>>48870839
a donation box and compensation is not the same thing, they can't paywall it but it's perfectly within their rights to set up a paypal link or something in the description

>>48868356
I saw a few people in the non-Hololive sphere shitting on it. It definitely seems a bit scuffed, but that's to be expected from an indie fighting game. It just has a lot more eyes on it because it's using a major IP for attention. Reminds me of Fighting is Magic, back when that first came out.

>>48870986
That would end up in a legally grey area and it would no doubt (at bare minimum) build bad blood between them and Cover.

>Grab a bucket
>Lose a fight
>Revive
>Can do nothing as AI pummels me for two minutes until I die
Nice

>>48870839
Didn't stop the other game/music/fanart makers like the one who did social suicide during Amelia's charity stream.
Didn't Cover allowed the use of their IP to get donations a la ZUN? I remember reading a doc from them like that like 4 months ago. There it also said you could activate ad revenue from clips

>>48870988
vtubers are the new bronies for sure...

Okay guys, while lack of air or forward dashing sucks balls I think I figured out how to play Sora!
>Blue sword into yellow sword
>Maintain distance where opponent gets hit by it
>Grab if someone gets too close
r8 my strategy

>>48871199
Ken flowchart/10

>haven't played fighting games in years
>retired from competitive
>finally something that looks like its worth a damn
>tutorial stage starts off with hags
we're so back bros

>>48871199
What's your Suisei strategy?

>>48866423
>probably will never get anything more than a poster and a random item for frontier mode
Sad, I want EVA and desk slam memes

>>48868356
Wonder how long it'll take for it to reach Aris

>>48870110
The Samurai got bodied by the Oni in HFZ already. Send someone else

I've never watched vtubers but I've had this and the previous thread open because I like the game and you guys seem okay, I'll admit I was ignorant

Holy shit Idol Showdown is actually pretty fun, I thought it'd just be another 2d kusoge

>>48871115
>Didn't stop the other game/music/fanart makers like the one who did social suicide during Amelia's charity stream.
That was totally different from this. HoloBass just put his music on Spotify, and Cover strike down some of his songs while letting others untouched, so Cover was really weird about all that thing. Because you draw artists can sell their doujinshi, artworks, and a lot of physical media but a music artist can't put their music in a streaming platform? Really weird, probably had something to do with Holobass not being japanese.
And it wasn't really during the Charity Stream, he talked about the spotify shit some days before but other people took that as "I'm going to copyright claim smol ame game" and the rrat went big during Ame's stream

>>48871446
Advice: stick to Jp vtubers or at least half JP if possible
The west is in shambles

>>48871199

>>48871510
I'd say to stick to one or two vtubers. Japan is a shitfest too

>>48871350
I dunno, I only played Sora

It appears her superiority has led to some controversy

>>48871560

How to I get more colors? I beat arcane twice and the other mode once still missing one color

Can Suisei really do anything? I feel like you work your ass off to get in and then all of your options at close range are terrible.

>>48871560
>Being Ayame is easy mode irl
>Playing Ayame is easy mode in IS
pottery

>>48871637
Play online.

>>48871651
I am honestly surprised they didnt include a reference to ringo alchemy anywhere

>>48871705
I been playing online more than anything, still dont got the 4th colors for botan

>>48871651
So far the best I've been able to do is try to stay at midrange if possible (it rarely is) and use moves to try to scare off the other player. Obviously this only works on shitty players.

>>48871651
She has some pretty good overheads, so maybe the plan is to force them to block low then punish it?

>>48872034
Hardly. I swear, half of her moves punish aerial opponents.

>>48871763
4th color is the other single player mode that isn't arcade mode.

>>48871800
It just feels really awkward being at midrange where a lot of your options just whiff, but I guess her 2M is pretty nice.

>>48872034
Maybe, but they don't really feel good enough for that. I think the dev intended for her to work hard to get a knockdown and then do the 214 to hold them in place, but it's too slow to charge, and you don't really have anything to do while they block.

>>48872207
Wait...
>>48872162 (me)
It just dawned on me. What if the purpose of her moves isn't to punish aerial opponents, but you're meant to try to get them airborne yourself to land them? I know she can uppercut them into the air, but I wonder if there are other good methods. If it isn't obvious, I don't know anything about fighting games.

You know, I'm not going to say the game doesn't need improvement in the air (I mean it seems specifically a design choice), this game has surprisingly good neutral. I wasn't expecting that.

>>48871510
More like everything in the west that isn't Hololive is in shambles. Last Month doesn't feel real.

>>48872034
Suichan has an instant overhead and a command grab.

>>48872403
Anon that's how you get any damage out of her combos at all. I didn't think anything of them other than combo tools.

>>48872480
Hololive in the west is also in shambles

>>48872537
Sorry. I'm a button masher.

>>48872574
>Hololive in the west is also in shambles
>After that Kino TTRPG from Myth yesterday.

>>48870370
100% agree.

>>48872737
only greasy landwhales care about EN

>>48871446
didnt know there was a version of this gif where Dizzy isnt mashing
Saved, thank you

>>48856446

>YouTube] Idol Showdown: Reveal Trailer | Hololive Fighting Game (embed)

>>48873711

>start up the roguelite solo mode
>see tempiss starter items
>alt+f4
>uninstall the game
Kill all homo beggars

>>48872737
Would you really recommend EN in it's current state to a newb?
He just wants to have fun not to get roped into male collab drama

I love her

>>48874582
Based retard.

>>48868287
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody dodge the dinosaur

>>48874764

>>48857715
The character I actually think is kind of bullshit is Botan, and the one I hate playing against is Chocojank because her shit's all retarded, I just hate that 9/10 people are playing Ayame like they think the game was solved 10 minutes after release.

>>48874957
How do you counter ayame asking for a friend

>>48875014
For most of them you just wait for them to DP at the end of their blockstring and punish.

>>48874957
I think Botan is probably gonna get her buttons nerfed anyways, at least damagewise. Her attacks just do higher damage than everyone else's for no reason, and some don't suffer from combo scaling at all. 2H doesn't scale down a combo at all for example. So even a simple combo of 5MM>5H>2H does 291 damage which is fucktarded, and the combo scaling is still only at 0.68x. If Ayame does 2M>5M>5H>2H she only gets 208 damage and her scaling at that point is 0.38x. And the same is true for every other character, their scaling works normally.

>>48875014
Pick Botan, wait for Ayame player to jump (they can't help it) then press 5M and combo or to punish them and reposition.
Then you can zone them out for a bit until the Ayame player gets too close again then repeat

where's pekola peko

>>48875218
>Her attacks just do higher damage than everyone else's for no reason
see >>48869955

>>48875285
first DLC

>>48875291
That's a tradeoff you make for having long reaching moves with reliable conversions, you don't need 50% extra damage on top.

>>48875291
Most characters die if you get in on them, half the cast doesn't have an invincible reversal and if they do, it's metered. You get in on Coco, she dies. You get in on Suisei, she dies. Not to mention if she gets in on you, she blows you up way harder than you blow her up, and she's hard to catch in the first place. At the very least she follow the combo scaling rules everyone else does.

Poi.

I think 2H should be the sweep and 3H should be the launch, like in melty, the game they got this idea from

I fucking hate how precise I have to be to gatling lows into sweep rather than my stubby mid-hitting launcher that whiffs from anything outside kissing distance

god this game made me remember how hot Coco was. Those fucking hips

>>48875826
Never forget what they took from you

playing this game through steam, how do you change the profile to not use your steam username?

>On a 5 game win streak with Ayame
>Literally only spent 10 minutes in the training room

>>48875776
It's like this in BB but sweeps are just combo moves in that game anyways. If you want to chain lows you can just do 3L>3M>3H for most of the cast, get wrecked if you're playing Suisei but her sweep is ass anyways.

>>48858018
Soon

>>48875966
>get wrecked if you're playing Suisei

BOTANFRAUDS OUT

>>48875521
Most of Botan's actually useful moves are not long reaching.
>>48875529
Not true. Me trying to pressure Ayames, Fubukis and Korones online usually ends up with my face in the dirt. I think Botan's recovery frames are longer than most of the cast since it's also very difficult to punish others after I block whereas it's easier with the above mentioned characters.

Ollie should be in the game and throw zombies like frank west And her trying to take pictures of every ones pantsu to level up

>>48875756
Only good post ITT

She will be DLC, right?

>>48875826
Too bad she's the most jank character in the game next to Suisei. Pretty much half of the things she's good at seem completely unintentional. She probably would be complete garbage without any of it too.
>Here's your very easy grappler
>I hope you like learning different timings for every link into command grabs that probably wasn't put in on purpose
>every single jank interaction with every character in the cast, like how you can combo Botan with command grabs without having god timing
>Or how j.H actually combos into a command grab but only against short characters

>>48876425
Sounds like fighting games to me

>>48876346
unlikely since she is already with doog as a skin

>>48876346
Fubuki and Korone are the GAMER representatives.
I imagine it will be 2 Sankisei members (Peko and Noeru) as the first DLC and an EN or ID(probably Kobo). I do think she's likely further down the line.

I hope they consider adding Magni. At least if they add a guy it should definitely be Magni. Between the magmites, mode shift and extra arms he'd be a super fun character to play.

>>48876425
I have a think for learning Low Tiers and I keep hearing that Coco and Suisei players are fighting for their fucking lives out there. Are they really that difficult to play?

>>48876275
Her recovery does for sure feeling longer. Feels like she is easier to punish than other characters. As a Botan, I've taken advantage of this against other Botans.She feels like a character that needs to space things right, but then other characters just have normals that outrange her stuff and counterhit her (even if she is outside of combo range). I'm surprised people complain about her more than Suisei. Maybe because Suisei is awkward for some, but that fast as fuck overhead man.

>>48876425
That's the fate of every grappler in fighting games. Devs have to nerf them to calm down scrubs who can't stand seeing one third of their life deleted in one move.

>>48876666
The other day one anon compared them to Zangief from SF II, the original one. Its probably just all the jank.

>>48876695
Ah, finally someone else who gets it. Botan mains aren't just out here getting wins for free. If someone loses against us, it's because they don't know how to pressure.

>>48876666
Coco has decent neutral, it's really more that she's both unintuitive and requires good timing. You're probably gonna struggle if you don't know her weird quirks or can't use them consistently, plus her combo structure is weird which throws people off. It's not like most of the cast where you can combo all your ground normals into each other. She feels kinda like a mid tier that can shift momentum really well and has the tools to do it, but part of that is only because of her stupid command grab link combos. Without those her damage would be a lot worse and she probably would be bad.

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
THIS WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL

>>48876425
>nothing is jump cancelable
>you get insane launch on the fire spit but it locks you the entire time
she does seem pretty sad

newscrub here, how do i actually play online? make a public lobby and hope people join?

>>48877052
yes

>>48877017
FEAR IS HOW I FALL

>>48877052
you dont need to hope, people join instantly. just mark ''appear in search'', when someone joins you press get ready then start the match

>holo weebs who've never played a fighter flooding in just to play as their oshi and asking dummy dum dum questions
cute...

>>48877017
>>48877109
> w*m*n
> playing competitive games
alright who's going to tell him

I honestly fear the Suisei players I encounter more than anyone else

>>48859992
There are a lot of weird poses and unmatching animations, but honestly the animations would feel 100% better if they added extra frames for impact on the endings. Example ia Coco dragon piledriver/bodyslam, its so fast ypu dont even feel the impact of the dragon or even appreciate the dragon, same thing happen with some specials endings or moves.
But also its free, kudos to everyone who worked in it, the amount of animation and graphic display is a lot of work already.

>>48877153
I know at least three girls in-person that never allowed anyone else to play on the arcades, hell, one of them is my sister and was a pain in the ass to try to win the console over her.

>>48877153
Wait till Coyo comes back...

>>48877340
is your sister single

I took the Suiseipill and can't play with anything else, she is soo fun, bros.

>>48877309
It's Korone players for me. She just chainsaws in and murders you.

is suisei's meteor super purely a meme move or

>>48877711
assuming you mean the one with the long charge time, you can build it up in parts.
so if people are playing too passive you can builld it up

>>48877551
Five years late anon, I am really sorry. If it helps cauterizing the wound, she is like mix of Coco's bravado with Kiara's imprudence so you mayhaps missed a bullet.

I'm sorry but I just find the idol showdown sprites really ugly and off putting.

Are they going to add more than 3 extra characters?

>>48877775
yeah, but is it worth burning 2+ meter on to keep charging it?

>>48877886
Supposedly, with the next one being the Peko.
Personally I would want the other two to be one EN and one ID just for unity's sake.

>>48877855
So are Ultra Fight Da! Kyanta 2's but that game is also fun as shit.
And for the record Street Fighter 4 and KoF XIV look terrible to me, but those games are also fun. Mortal Kombat 11 looks fan-fucking-tastic but the gameplay sucks ass.
Gameplay over graphics for me.

>>48877030
You can still get something at least, but it costs SC cancel. Like I said, she's very unconventional and despite being listed as easy, she has a barrier of entry. This is probably not the best combo but it's more of an example.

>>48876920
Mirrors tend to make you realize the flaws quickly. Pretty much the only way to win mirrors is to learn your characters flaws to exploit them and then just being able to adapt to your own characters bs better than the opponent.

In terms of specific weaknesses besides recover, she also struggles to 'zone' outside of 6H. Even then it is about as fast as most fireballs, I've tried to counter zone against. This usually leads to a trade. Grenades are slow as hell and snipes take a bit to come out. Even her anti-air (2C) is on the slower side making it unreliable let alone it having the same issue as some of her other normals (like 5B) being awkward because of moving backward the way it does. She doesn't have a reversal, so I honestly use her super to get out if I don't have burst. Even if the opponent is airborne, it seems to not have a hitbox in neutral until it has traveled a certain amount. It isn't invincible either, so you can easily get stuffed by anyone able to react to you trying to use it as an anti-air.

Really her only strengths I can think of at the moment is her 5C (if properly spaced), her 6B being slightly janky with how it moves forward (but not really being able to combo well in my testing with it), and her damage. Still messing with 22B/C mixup stuff. I don't know if you can convert off of anything, but the grab followup seems at least decent for putting the opponent where you can try something.

She is the most punishable character if she doesn't space right (with other characters having normals that are faster/outrange the good normals). She also doesn't have a reversal (even metered), so she just gets stuck more or less when pressured. You basically wait for them to mess up or have the resources to have your assist bail you out. I think that is why Suisei feels the most rough with her fast as fuck overhead.

>>48877969
Gura is a must.

This game is propaganda to make me want to fuck Aki isn't it.

>>48878193
As it should be. I have yet to play Kyanta (have it downloaded), but it looks fun in a 'wow this game is fucking retarded' way.

do you think there's a possibility that collab characters can eventually become actual fighters?
and vice versa i guess

Anyone want to play?

4D570DD4

>>48877309
But why?

Haven't seen one Fubuki or Aki player. Why nobody playing them?

>>48878234
>She doesn't have a reversal, so I honestly use her super to get out if I don't have burst.
This is why I think she also deserves the damage buff, but Botan's super is best used defensively to get out of awful situations instead of comboing into most times.

>>48877855
They're standard poverty game sprites

>>48878459
People are playing Aki she might even be the best character in the game.

If anyone wants to go against a button masher who sucks the biggest balls imaginable at fighting games, feel free to get a confidence booster by joining B8B27A73 . Seriously, I am ungodly levels of bad.

Anywhere to get Idol showdown outside of stream?

>>48878806
Yeah. It's available on Steam too.

Suisei literally does not have any useful moves, I'm starting to realize this is one of the fucking worst fighting game characters I have ever seen.
>Fubuki throws a projectile
>hop doesn't go over it
>slide doesn't go under it
She's a no defense short range slow character with no way of getting in, weak pressure, and low damage, even in BlazBlue when characters are unplayable it's just because they have no damage but this is a joke.

>>48878830
pic related
>>48866073

>>48878830
no wait, I meant outside of steam

>>48878843
oh but that said nobody has shown me Sora being able to do anything but a literal broken corner block string.

>>48878843
>slide doesn't go under it
it does tho. it's a short-ass slide but it does low profile.

>>48878843
Her supers are fun to use at least.

>>48878375
The longest combos I've found myself stuck in have been from Suisei

Do Fubuki players even exist?
I'm like 3 hours in and haven't ran into a single one

>>48878843
Have you tried blocking

>>48878921
You think it be but it don't. It will go under a high projectile like Coco's fire but if it can get by Fubuki's it's such a tiny frame window as to be impractical.

>>48878843
just labbed it 3m or whatever goes right under it

>>48877153
There's woman playing Tekken, there's that. Guilty gear on there other hand

>>48878985
Have you tried not being a nigger

>>48877153
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>>48877017
My oshi will solve this problem, eventually.

Make Marine playable. I want to jerk off to Marine sprites.

>>48879004
We are entertaining retards like that?

>>48879025
well that's because Guilty gear is mostly played by women (trans)

>>48878843
But I want to main Suisei...

>>48878364
>>48878254
Gura is not a collab right? also she being one of the last additions would make sense seeing this took two years of development. As for the collabs becoming fighters, I am no dev but that sounds like end of the year/next year material. Hope they do it though, that's what made MvC2 a fun sequel.

>>48879066
No and I suppose your answer is the same.

>>48879004
I would love to test it but dummy recording is completely broken and has inputs held down all the time.

>>48879105
who?
I'm still looking for idols for the op.

>>48878963
fbk main here, this character has zero sauce. I just press jH and win like I'm playing KoF98 again

just make suisei's projectile always max charge, i don't know why you'd give me an oki tool that i can't actually use for oki because i have to sit there and hold it for it to do any blockstun

>>48879249
Everyone is winning in this game
Susei is winning easy
Botan is winning easy
AKi is winning easy
Sora is winning easy
Fubiki is winning easy

who the fuck is losing

which day 1 tier list is the correct one?

>>48879283
>Susei is winning easy
kek

>>48879284
the waifu one

>>48879283
I'm fairly certain like 80% of the current playerbase has never heard of a crossup so that alone makes you win with the entire cast

>>48879194
Here you go anon, its even easier on the ssr version because its faster
https://files.catbox.moe/0eho8f.webm

>>48879283
>Botan is winning easy
rumaoooo

Downloaded this game expecting it to be meh, but it's actually good?!

>>48879833
everyone is as surprised as you are

>>48879833
yeah more meat in this game then I thought, hitstun is a bit all over the place but its fun

>>48879194
Oh good it's working today, almost (sometimes the inputs play back wrong)

So the problem is that it doesn't go low profile until really late in the move. I expect slides to low profile early but have really bad frame data if you hit them deep but instead you need to press it super early to even get any functionality out of it to the point I really doubt the practicality of actually punishing with it at the range it will connect.

>>48879249
everyone just eats j.H into death

>suisei 5L > 5M whiffs on crouchers
>suisei 6H says it's an overhead but it's not
pls finish making my character

>>48879833
the game is a total mess but in the fun mid-2000s kusoge kind of way

Spamming Botan grenades with Katana assist up shouldn't be this fun.

>>48880011
Kanata*

i just got assraped by someone playing my character
it's much more humiliating when the game is brand new because i can't cope and say ''oh it's okay they've been playing for longer than me''

>>48880145
you've got the they've been playing fighting games for decades cope still tho

>>48880145
I always drop my spaghetti in mirrors and have been doing so for decades at this point, on multiple genres too.

>>48880203
>>48880166
>>48880145
Skill issue
mirror matches are my favorites, still sucks to lose though

For me, it's Nakiri "unga bunga" Ayame.

>>48880442
Ayame players are whores

>>48880442
Ah my favorite fighting game archetype; silverback gorilla.

>>48879959
>>48880442
So is it:
>UNGA BUNGA TIER
Ayame
>S-TIER
Botan
Korone
Fubuki
Aki
>B-TIER
Coco
Sora
>PLEASE FINISH MY CHARACTER
Suisei

That about right?

why'd they make botan sound so sexy?

>>48880865
After playing against Sora, I'm starting to think she's the best in the game. She just wins neutral. Her sword normals are the best moves in the game. You can't get past 5H. You just can't. It's safe on block, can't be whiff punished, and if you get cornered by 5H, you can't get out of the corner. You lose. You can't DP, you can't jump, you can't attack.

>>48880623
What a cute image

>>48880145
Use it as a learning experience and steal his tech

>>48874200
based

The best and worst characters actually make sense if you think about it.

Ayame is a lazy whore who shows up once in a while to collect money from her fans who are okay with her only streaming once every few months and just think she's cute and aren't really interested in Hololive or watching her stream that much.

Consequently, Ayame in the game is an easy faceroll character for the Ayame fans who will pick her and know nothing of fighting games. They won't play very long, they'll win a few matches by smashing keyboards and then leave happy and satisfied. Ayame is easy mode both in the game and in real life.

Meanwhile Suisei is a tryhard and Hoshiyomi right now are furiously practicing the game since the very second it was released. Thus you can make her character the worst in the game because the Hoshiyomi who play her will beat everyone else with her anyways. The people playing Suisei will be JPs that have been going to fighting game tournaments for decades, they will invest every spare minute they have to learning every move and trick the character has, all so they can stomp everyone else with the worst character in the game.

What does Fubuki use to end her blockstrings? All of her specials seem minus if she doesn't get SSR.

not gonna lie, feels a bit weirdchamp seeing all the girls beat each other up, tee-bee-aetch. I don't want them to fight

You're all tripping Suisei is good if you're not a shitter

>>48881899
Just think of it like it were smash brawl: either an autism's daydream of their oshis knocking the shit out of each other, or another dimension where everyone and their dog are bloodthirsty as fuck and punching their teeth out is how they show their love.

>>48881743
This schizopost makes me think, it's very likely that this game will have an offline scene in japan, probably played in a corner in rooms filled with SF/Tekken.

>>48881899
>lesbian violence statistics

but will this be on animevo

>page 9
What do you want included on next op?

>>48882186
Sora

>>48882186
a working youtube link

>>48881743
I haven't played much of Idol Showdown yet, just messed around in the training room to find someone I'd gel with. I play a lot of Type Lumina, though, and in that at least Saber's good but not that good. In TL she's more of a gatekeeper character, since her crouching jab is a frame slower than basically everyone else's (meaning you'll nearly always lose jabbing from block), and the fact that her normals have reach, means you can't just run up and hit her. Her glaring weakness is the lack of a meterless reversal, and needing to burn meter to make most of her blockstrings safe. That's counterbalanced by her building meter quicker than most, but I digress.

Point is, at lower levels, Saber thrashes Arcueid, but at higher levels a good Arcueid thrashes Saber, since you can just get in and she doesn't have many ways out.
How much of what I said applies to Ayame? Cause if she doesn't have the glaring weaknesses of shit like
>bad FD on mash moves
>needs meter for reversals
>mediocre approach tools

the 214 special where she leaps has me doubting /vt/ is just salty, cause if that's an overhead then she's fucking whack.

>>48882276
No confidence No link

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