/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

no

>>4886156
At FPS games yes, but not incredible.
She's pretty shit at everything else.

>Cover will go under before Aqua gets permissions to speedrun Souls games again
Well that sucks.

Aqua, Okayu, Fubuki

>>4886156
There's not a single good gamer at Holo. It's an Idol agency. I don't mean that as an insult, they are pretty much like many of us. There's either Holos that are fantastic at a certain game, like Susei with Tetris or or Botan with FPS games or Holos that are casual about games, like Fubuki, Korone or Marine.
Aqua fits the bill of being a good gamer the most, she trys her best at games, literally being the only tryhard. Speedrunning Darksouls, her grind for Mario Cart for the Nr.1 Spot, or her recent solo Apex challenge. But being good at games is her holo identity, shes the gamer maid after all.

Suisei is good at a lot of different games. There are some that she sucks at, but she''s definitely above-average overall.

>>4886156
Fubuki, Luna

>>4886156
Watching the Lion is like watching someone who doesn't like video games play video games.
She dosn't care about whats happening or the characters, just dose the objective and moves on. Watching a tough guy/girl is boring to me.
My opinion at least.

>>4886416
Holo EN girls confirmed that they got permissions again for Souls games published by bandai namco.
No idea what that means for JP though.

yes

>>4887162
kind of agree about her personality. I like her gags with watame because it feels like she finds it kind of funny or at least genuinely likes lamb.

>>4887235
>Ina
>doesn't even like video games
Anon...

>>4887219
Was this confirmed recently? I remember ina and calli wanting to play bloodborne, but that's published by sony.

>>4887235
Why Luna is on Doesn't even like video games if she's good on Dark souls?

>>4887440
It's a tier list, aka whoever anon watches is in the good tiers, everyone else isn't

>>4887342
No it was months ago. I don't think any of them actually wants to play Dark Souls. Amelia outright stated she doesn't want to.

>>4887235
>Luna
Literally one of the best gamers. She only plays like a retard when its a series she's not personally invested in.

>>4887235
>Luna, Anya, Reine
This list is so retarded.

>>4887323
she was an MMO player
she didn't play games she played a waiting simulator

>>4887235
This is the most clipwatcher tier list I've seen yet

>Choco and Aki
>not in a One trick pony (Ark) tier
you fucked up

>>4887440
Dark souls is a meme

>>4887440
Dark souls is overrated as fuck
play a different game I am begging you anon

>>4887592
even a clip watcher knows that gura is really good at rhythm games

>>4887799
>>4887751
t. A filthy casual

>>4886945
>There's not a single good gamer at Holo
>there's only holos that are good at certain games
>or certain genres
>or actual good gamers but it doesn't count if it's their schtick
Really, what were you going for with this post?

>>4887219
>No idea what that means for JP though.
FromSoft published in Japan so that's probably why it's different for them.

>>4888095
I wonder if they could play EN versions of the games technically then.

>>4887235
how new?

>>4887961
yes anon I totally want to watch a vtuber play the same game literally 10 million other streamers have played and rage at the exact same spots where a hundred million other gamers have raged at
that is so totally cool and interesting
that's why Amelia doesn't want to play it, it's played out there is nothing more for her to add with a playthrough

>>4888142
Maybe? It's possible, but the terms of use are probably so convoluted regarding a Japan-based employee of a Japanese company using Japanese software published for a region outside of Japan, that it might not even be worth the hassle. I have no idea how much stupid red tape would be involved.

>>4888290
This goes for any popular game ever made. If people like the game they would be content seeing someone they also like watching go through it.

>>4888362
I'm not watching another vtuber play RE8 no matter how much I like them, I've seen 4 vtubers beat it and 3 groups beat it takes 2
yeah you would get the faggots who can't stop talking about dark souls 12 years later watching you, but then half your regular audience is going to go off and watch someone else because they don't care about seeing this game the 100th time

girls? good at video games?

>>4886945
anon here
>>4888080
It's easy. My post tells what a good gamer is in my eyes. A good gamer is someone who can pick up on the mechanics of almost any type of game and quickly at that, trying to improve themselves as much as possible in the process.

If we try to transfer this to the holos, most of them struggle to do well in diffrent games. Watching Luna who's an above average Holo in gaming struggle in COD for example or Susei approaching Hitmen GTA style in some cases instead of being patient. Fubuki and Botan are decent at games, Botan having the experience and Fubuki immersing in story driven games but it's Aqua that picks up game mechanics very fast. Shes autstic and slightly retarded but gamewise smart as hell.

>>4886156
depends on the genre of game

>>4887162
>She dosn't care about whats happening or the characters, just dose the objective and moves on
Agree
>Watching the Lion is like watching someone who doesn't like video games play video games.
Disagree. I think she likes the game play and mechanics, that doesn't mean she doesn't like video games.

>>4887235
>Luna
Anon, your reps ...

>>4887162
Lion sees through insincere and disingenuous video game storytelling, if a game has garbage plot she focus only on the gameplay.

>>4887235
Close enough.

>>4887235
>korone
>decent
I like korone but good god she is awful at games. The only thing she's good at is beating old kusoge because she'll play it for 16 hours straight until she wins.

>>4887235
just like reddit, completely out of touch with reality
CLAP CLAP

>>4887559
>>4887323
She liked Titanfall 2 and Nier Automata more than Amelia did

poi

>>4887235
The real question is why you put Aqua Matsuri and Roboco as Apex gremlins but not Towa or Ayame.

>>4887559
she loved hollow knight and played it really well

>>4887235
For fucks sake anon if you don't watch or know anything about a vtuber either don't put them on your tier list or just don't make a tier list at all. Its not hard.

Okayu and Fubuki are as good or better on average. Suisei is way better on the handful of games that she goes full autism at.

>>4886156
Miko, Rushia, Subaru, and Kiara are gamers. Korone and Amelia have come close.

>>4891188
Okayu is a SM64 speedrunning pro. That cat's got some skills.

>>4887235
Tetris is a honorary A tier.

>>4887235
>Calliope
>Doesn't like video games
Just not true. On her roommate bio she listed video games alongside rap and comics as her favorite things.

>>4889851
Getting through the white palace is pretty impressive for an entertainer idol girl.

>>4887235
newfagchama....

>>4888607
You sound like a complete faggot, anon.

>>4886156
can she play touhou?
speedrun souls?
the answer is no

>>4887235
Is this made by someone who doesnt actually watch them?

>>4891630
that and beating many bosses first try on her first blind run, I wont say she is a top tier gamer but she is definitely above average

>>4887440
Dark souls is easy and I'm sick of people thinking intelligent world design is some kind of hardcore extreme difficultly.

>>4888456
But anon, I don't care about what everyone else wants. I want Dark Souls.

>>4887235
>it's a "clipniggers know literally nothing about luna" episode

>>4887235
>aqua
>one trick pony
shes also got elite in Smash..

>>4886156
Ame matches her skill in FPS games. even Korone isn't that good at FPS games when you compare her Doom playthrough with Ame's

>>4887162
She's very pcgamery.
t.pcgamer

>>4886156
Marine can clear any Touhou without continues on Normal, and on a good day can do the same on Hard.
That's not incredible, and probably doesn't compare to Suisei/Botan's niche, but it's not something anybody can just pick up and do without a lot of practice.

>>4892559
If you're only good at one game, you aren't a good gamer, you're just autistic.

>>4887162
never seen a worse take, the point of games is gameplay, stories are optional

>>4893793
>Ame matches her skill in FPS games
Spoonfeed me clips or you are lying through your teeth and/or retarded.

>>4886257
>but not incredible.
She is literally a former esports pro...

>>4894976
Ame used to spam ranked games in overwatch and stuff. She got very high

>>4887342
>>4887219
>>4887498

Didn't Calli say something about wanting to play months ago?

>Amelia outright stated she doesn't want to
I guess the salt would be too much. Do you remember where did she say that?
>>4888095
Well almost all the JP girls have already played them desu, with Aqua doing speedruns of both Dark Souls and Sekiro, so they probably don't care that much.

>>4896449
Aqua did multiple RTAs of the same games because she enjoys them, she probably does care but it's not like she gets a say when it comes to permissions anyway.

>>4893793
Ame can't even hit Diamond in Apex you retarded Teashart, let alone Predator like Botan did

>>4887235
This is one of the worst tier list I saw, and this comes from someone who watched all the Meme reviews. You don't even deserve a CLAP CLAP, just don't do a tier list again in your life.

>>4889215
Nier Automata is a movie.

>>4895415
Current. Got invited to a CoD tourney not all that long ago, and has Xbox sponsorship now.

>>4886156
She's got a lot of polish and professional talent, no lie. But between Marine going hard on Touhou, Aqua having bizarrely good play at times, Suisei and her mad Tetris skills, and Korone's tendency to start games she's NOT good at and marathon them until she gets good and wins... Different gamer niches exist, anon.

>>4896899
Based esports lion

>>4886156
Botan is far beyond just "good". She has her niche, but anyone who is talented enough to become pro tier in a game will be godlike at just about any other game too if they grind it enough.
Even if none of the skills translate (unrealistic), their brains and its abillity to learn very fast does.

Truly good gamers are pretty much a different species.

>>4888142
If Blamco owns FromSoft then it should be fine, in the same way that EA can give permission for the studios it owns. If Blamco is just the souls distributor in the west then its a big fat noperino, since a publisher can't release the rights of the IP owner for use of product without permission from the IP owner. Or some such shit like that.

>>4894019
I'm surprised she got slapped around in the final Flowey fight like she did with Shump skills. I managed to do that my first try.

>>4887235
>Doesnt even like video games
>People shit on them for playing too much games

Applies to a good number of those holos in this row

What do you mean? shark is great at (rhythm) games.

>>4886156
Aqua is good in vidya in general.
Marine is good at touhou.
Suisei in tetris obviously.
As mentioned, Gura in rhythm games.
And Fubuki is pretty good at everything.
Oh, and also I didn't think Flare was good at games, but she did beat Sans very quickly, so she's pretty good as well.

>>4896804
t. Didn't play on hard

>>4886156
>literally calls herself gamer maid

>>4886156

Yes and /thread

and fuck Okayu and Hololivet

>>4887235
Ayame doko...

This thread is filled with /v/ermin
Just nuke it already.

>>4892559
Why don't you share your own opinion then faggot.

>>4887235
do you even watch streams?
anyway, whenever Ayame isn't sucking dick
, she's either playing league of legends or apex

>>4897889
>And Fubuki is pretty good at everything.
>managed to fail every possible way in the stickmin game.
>good

>>4886156
>would lose to Gura at Muse Dash
>would lose to Suisei at Tetris
>Nowhere near as autistic as Moona at Minecraft
>Never does endurance streams like Korone
>She has limited experience in entire genres
>Doesn't even touch classic hard games like Okayu or Luna do

I love La Lion, but your definition of hardcore gamer is pretty narrow. Learning how to cancel reload animations in a single player game you've already beaten is impressive, but useless and not a real good measure of skill or general aptitude. I wish she would play Siege again. Please play it again, Botan.

Kinda weird that nobody has filled the FGC niche yet.

>>4911092
Unless you count Smash. FGs usually make people too competitive/tryhard and generates a lot of salt, especially online matches. It could be entertaining if they manage to keep their cool but still I don't think there's anyone other than Aqua or Suisei who would play them.

>>4914445
The dark horse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIN1G3VFbUI

>>4914445
I've never seen FGCers get nearly as salty as the average apex/moba babby.

I don't think Korone is super good at gaming, like sometimes she needs like 12 hours to clear a 2 hours long game but she plays a lot of old games and as a boomer that makes me really happy.

>>4887162
I agree. That is why I only like lion on Minecraft or collabs. There she only shows personality, and hers is good

>>4910625
>Learning how to cancel reload animations in a single player game you've already beaten is impressive
How? How is that impressive?

>>4914888
There are entire channels dedicated to salty FGCers

>>4910625
This is true, and every time Botan sucks at a game her fans just go "Lol, she doesn't care. It's just too simple for her." Like with Mario Kart, despite her practicing with time trials and everything. She's undeniably up there with the best though, but only in her niche.

>>4887235
Wasn't Luna 4th in that Mario Kart tournament despite being so sick she could barely speak?

>>4887235
>guras position
Even ignoring how good she is at niche rhythm games, her dbd skill alone earns her much better than that.

>>4886156
Ame is ok

>>4914496
Damn, that was about a year ago. Looked through her channel and it seems that she doesn't play it though, unless it's off stream.

>>4915134
She's a gamer but not a good one I also believe once it took her lik 3-5 hours to clear a fucking mini game in sonic adventures

>>4910625
>I love La Lion, but your definition of hardcore gamer is pretty narrow.
How is an literally professional gamer not hard core enough for you fucks. Like you know she was a pro right, and still has those skills, she was invited and competed in a CoD exhibition match not to long ago, commentated professionally for fucking years, like actually fuck you suck my dick.

>>4887162
Her trial streams are great and if you think she isn't having fun then you must think she is an amazing actor.

>>4917399
Key word, was. Nowadays you can't really call someone a "hardcore" gamer if they literally suck at every other genre except FPS, and even CoD at that she doesn't even play play other shooters.
But honestly that shouldn't even be a problem if people laugh with her when she fails.

>>4917639
>and even CoD at that she doesn't even play play other shooters.
AWAY Skaven fag

seems like most of the posts in here are just
[streamer] is good at the games I like so she's good at games
[streamer] is bad at the games I like so she's bad at games

She's pretty good at fps, above average but I'm pretty sure since she's not tryharding anymore her skills got a downgrade, she's not on that "semi-pro" lvl anymore.

Heck if we want her to be at her best she would have to stream Fps more than 12hrs at day and at this point it's obvious she's not gonna do that.

She is quite good at other games, since she clever and has good eye and reflexes but she's definitely not able to like, be a god at everything, heck she said in her debut stream she is bad at both fighting games and race games, so trials was a surprise, I'm pretty sure she just joined the Mario Kart tournament to fuck around, she's not good at race games and she barely trained for like two hrs in one stream.

Holo is her retirement home, she wants to take it easy and just be around to see what catches her attention even when it's obvious she likes the gaming world in general so anyone who expects her to be like the god of games got it wrong, she's definitely good most of the time, she can grasp mechanics relatively quick and can bully most of the other girls on stream and for now that enough for her.

She's not gonna tryhard nor participate in big tournaments as Botan, maybe, just maybe once she graduates from Holo she will go back to take games more serious.

Atte. an SSRB-min

>>4918068
>She's pretty good at fps, above average but I'm pretty sure since she's not tryharding anymore her skills got a downgrade, she's not on that "semi-pro" lvl anymore.
She literally fucked on some Japanese pros around 3 months ago.

>>4918033
That's the thing, a lot of the gamer holos are good at their genre and not much else. I think FPS fans just happen to be more annoying about it, and that's the genre Botan happens to play.

Fight game Holomen when, no Mori doesn't count. I will accept Kiara playing more virtua fighter.

>>4891524
classic doxxbeat

>>4918195
Why are melfriends like this

>>4886156
Aqua, Botan, and Fubuki are the best at video games in Hololive.

>>4918132
To expand on this just a little more, I'm glad there's not an RTS or FGC holo, because we'd never hear the end of it from their fans because of how they think their games require so much more skill.

>>4918224
t. someone who hasn't checked in on the FGC since 09

>>4910157
I don't think you understand the point of the stickmin "game"

>>4918268
I don't need to. You fuckers still show up in holo threads every week or two and bitch about how the holos don't play real games.

>>4918283
Ogey

>>4886156
I just want a Holo that plays fightan. Real ones, not anime or Smash.

>>4918418
Muh ground based footsie

>>4918418
See what I mean?

>>4918418
No no no your supposed to say not Tekken or Smash, gotta upgrade your bait.

>>4918516
Im sure this wasn't you false flagging that why the IP count didn't increase.

>>4918280
he was making a joke austist-kun

>>4918103
Can I get a source pls? I must have missed as you can see.

>>4888290
Why not just content yourself with watching just your oshi's DS streams?

>>4887235
Confirmed newfag.

>>4917987
Sorry anon but if Botan played more FPS I would even defend calling her a hardcore gamer but she doesn't even popular shit like valorant

>>4917456
Trials has no story nor background, she just finds it fun (which is the point). I disagree with the guy u replied to, Botan's Carmack attitude to games is refreshing among youtubers. I don't think she necessarily hates or dismisses story (she did appear with Suda on NMH3) but she's really into the gameplay and that's extremely rare for girl gamers.

>>4886156
It really depends on what game.

So, in summary:

>Aqua can speedrun Sekiro and solo diamond in Apex
>FBK can destroy rhythm games and is all-around knowledgeable
>Okayu can 16-star RTA Mario 64 and dominates other minigame style games
>Luna can naked run DS and is a MH master
>Marine can actually 1CC Touhou games
>Suisei is a Tetris god
>All of them can also place in the winner's bracket in Mario Kart
>Botan has 10+ years on most of them

Why do people use Botan to shitpost again?

>>4919503
Valorant is bad and you should feel bad.

>>4920966
Because Botan is on the gray area that she's playing everything safe to not have any drama but not big enough to make everyone watch her every move. /vt/ just wants drama on everyone now.

>>4887162
>Watching the Lion is like watching someone who doesn't like video games play video games.
Console babbies out
Play a video game, play the fucking game

>>4887162
>She dosn't care about whats happening or the characters
That's called being a real gaymur instead of an actor pretending to give shit or a tasteless casual who loves the shitty forced stories that most games have.

botan is incredible at games. Her only prob, to me at least, is she purposefully doesnt try or she throws depending on what will make it 'funny' in the current situation. This seems super apparent in collabs.

still like the lion, tho

>>4928186
>Valorant is bad
so is COD

>>4887235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvJIjuOKzzM&ab_channel=OneSmile
my oshi is not even aqua but i know she plays very decently well for some games. at least she plays better than most of the anons here.

>>4887162
When they overreact it feels fake as fuck. But I do want their opinions on the games instead of just casually shitting on it.

I love her so much
Her trials rising streams is pretty comfy

>>4886156
she is the definition of my grandma can shoot better than you

>>4886945
Korone's 12 hour marathons of retro games don't seem very casual to me.

>>4886156
shes only good at fps. not really fun to watch her gaming streams otherwise.

>>4895415
A Japanese pro, which means shit tier in the west

>>4886156
she is almost 40 and fat as fuck, you can tell she dedicated her life to vidya, of course she must be good

>>4940193
>Save state
>Easy or normal difficulty
>Constant backseat from her stream
>never think thi.gs through or improve her skill at a game, just bash her head at the obstacle until she stumbles upon the right way to do it by pure luck.
Koro-san is an ultra casual.

>>4889094
Fairly sure she fakes it for watchers fun. Every now and then you`ll see slipping into fairly tight controls territory and then goes back into being goofy once she realizes.

Who is best at FPS? Ame, Aqua, or Towa?

>>4946230
Weak bait.

>>4946230
Aqua>Towa>Ame

I love Ame but she possess 0 semblance of game sense in majority of FPSes she plays.

>>4940242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrPf8KqTZJE
get cucked white boi

>>4950493
>A*EX LEG*NDS

>>4916216
>Even ignoring how good she is at niche rhythm games
muse dash is by far one of the easiest rhythm games
if she could replicate that ability in cytus, arcaea or even deemo then it'd be something

>>4950106
Idk She was good at her ultra violence doom.
And also in overwatch.
Her apex skills seem to have regressed tho compared to when she played it in her firsts months.
But Unfortunately still better than me.....

>>4886156
Astel is one of the best

>>4951251
Are we watching the same stream? that DOOM? DOOM 2016 right?

>>4951322
Teamates are delusional, don't bother

>>4951302
Not really in MarioKart.
SunTempo are good, but Miyabi is monster.

>>4952292
>Suntempo are good, but miyabi is a monster
You haven't seen roberu then

>>4952292
>SunTempo are good, but Miyabi is monster.
Just so you know, Roberu is skilled enough that he left a powergap of 20 points in the Holostars tournament with the second player who got around the same number of points with Suisei, who won the Hololive tournament after training a fuckton and tryharding.
In comparison, Son is powerful enough to effortlessly control the game flow so he can choose which penalites to do in that big collab with many vtubers and also incidentally let a chance for the other players to win a race once in a while: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoZTYkB0Aio

>>4953559
Yeah, I only had experience watching solo Roberu RTA MK. I am not sure if he is that unlucky or intentionally lose to end the stream fast.

Any holos good a strategy games?

>>4967392
I don't know a single VTuber playing strategy games; turn-based, real time or GSG...
This makes me want to become one.

>>4967392
they should play a bottom barrel strategy game like kagero deception as bare minimum.

>>4954826
Do you have that clip of him backing up to let 1st place get the blue shell?

>>4968134
>https://youtu.be/EoVJAx4JBT8?t=4029
Here you are, anon.
That whole collab was gold, looking back at it. There was also that time he obliterated his opponents to avoid having to pretend couple as penalty while he was totally taking easy the previous races

>>4920966
Fubuki is fond of giving herself challenges or making RTAs of games she really liked, but I don't think she has the time to seriously train at a single game to become top tier.

>>4946021
I noticed during her Super Mario World playthrough (since I know this game inside and out) that she likes to challenge herself and prolong the experience. She almost never used the cape and she beat Tubular the legit way.

>>4887235
I think this is wrong. Ame for being a notably-better-than-causal FPS-fag, is pretty bad at everything else, to the point that Ina is better than her in those games and is probably the stronger general-purpose gamer.

>>4918195
she literally puts references of her roommate on alot of her songs