/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48827333
>you’ll make more than what you make before joining here
now that was a fucking lie lmao

>You'll be paid in experience

>>48827421
They are all 3 view shitters, how much do they actually earn without a fixed salary?

>>48827333
why does he have gay autist face

>>48827559
cause hes a gay autist

>>48827333
This guys a billionaire who operates new hires like he runs a MLM scheme

>You want to discuss something with a familiar senior manager over the New Year?
>Pour your heart out to this perfect stranger we hired two weeks ago instead. Here's a suspension so you don't think about doing that again.

>>48827333

>>48827516
more than what they get from joining niji

Why are you people acting like those agencies pay for debut lmao they pay for the model and thats it. all of the mjust do that and you as the vtuber pay for overlays and whatever else

>>48827494
>We're paying you in exposure

>>48827980
Not all of them.

>>48827980
Not in hololive nigger, and they sure as shit doesn't plan their fucking debut as a gen on their own

>>48827980
because Holo do on top of a base salary, keep coping nijifag.

>>48827333
>debut is debt
God damn

>>48827516
Finana has at least 5K members, so 7K a month at the bare minimum assuming she gets a third of her earnings

>>48827516
Whatever they earn subtract the cost of paying for everything themselves.

>>48828089
debut = debt + u lmao

>>48828084
>>48828079
>>48828072
im not a nijifag retards, i watch vspo. thats how it is in there too

>>48827980
imagine a company that claims to make so much money but does not have a whole department dedicated for stream support, overlays, and animations. Couldn’t be my oshi.
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1623879426533629955?s=61&t=dS9BinKZOUbjjc1rC0ZwrA

>>48828176
*chef's kiss*

>>48828197
Ok chinesemaple

>>48828033
desu it worked, we're all talking about her now.
they got a lot of fucking eyes on her, for better or worse.

>>48828176
>trouble?
>dömp eet

>>48828197
yeah we believe you sister. you just happened to stumble on this thread to defend vspo

>>48827421
Body language experts have commented that Riku displays more latent homosexuality than has ever been recorded.

>>48828096
5k members?
But isn't she a 3 view?

>>48828197
sure nijifag, vspo in a niji thread.

>>48828214
Nijikek keep boasting about how much profit Anykara got
But they never think about "How much of their talents got?"
This shit alone is enough to knew how this shitty and their fanbase is.

>>48828363
i dont need to watch nijisanj to know that other agencies out there are similar to them

>>48828336
It surprised me as well, but the number of member badges she has is proof. I meant Pomu actually, Finana should have a bit more than 2K members

>prohibits you from using personal accounts

>>48828547
pomu is one of the better nijis so it’s not hard to imagine

>>48828084
holo base salary was debunked

>>48828644
Proof?

>>48828336
A lot of people member but only watch VODs or may not watch every stream.

>>48828176
Watamate... i.... kneel

>>48828547
There's no way 3 view shitters can have more membership than a Hololive EN.
Bae and Amelia have less than that

>>48828089
Put "u" in "debt" and call it a "debut"

>>48828420
you didn't know Holo. and you are comparing a big ass company like Nijisanji to small companies short on cash, investments and sponsors.

>>48828644

>>48828644
both Coco and Kanata before monetization talked about receiving a small salary to live on, just because you are a nijifag who never watched holo doesn't mean it is "debunked".

NICHINGCHONGCHING ENGLISH BRANCH OOO CHING DING DONG CHING

>>48828672
if you dig through the archives, there's discussion on how word usage by the holos when they talked about their pay were being mistranslated in clips, discussion that was spurred due to the lack of salary mention in the ipo docs.

>>48827333
I hate this pig face

>>48828644
The fucking streams where Matsuri and a shitload of other holos talk about their base salary are still fucking up to this day you fucking retard.

>>48828644
it’s basically given to the non-earners before they got monetized or those that earned so little, cover had to support them - like Aki before. But yes, i think all of them as of right now gets revenue/profit share on all projects involving them with no fixed salary.

>>48829060
Yeah, even haachama and ame turned off their superchats.
I think cover used sora as basis because sora was not streamers.

>>48828836
holo isnt the entire industry

>>48829440
it is now.

>>48829440
oh, but we are, bitch

>>48829440
Nijinog coping so hard

>>48829613
i have said and i will say once again, i dont watch niisanji except for collabs with them. im only saying what most of the industry does

>>48828644
The existance of holostars counters your point

>>48829653
I think it's really funny how the second biggest vtuber company (and arguably biggest if you take their revenue) has to be taken down to the level of companies that are 100 times less their size

>>48829653
Yeah sure

>>48829375
Think about it, why should they care about main channel projects or numerous Holo's big projects, if they are not paid for the time and money they spend recording. They probably get paid base salary, and SC are more of commission rewards.

>>48829440
if you ignore nijisanji, they pretty much are

>>48828197
I didn't call you a nijifag and that doesn't make what you said any less wrong, retard.

>>48829212
Why don't you niggers ever provide proof? Just sit it out if you're not gonna actually dicuss shit. Taking your word for it until someone else digs is out is the same as just killing the discussion.

>>48829386
Might be, but might also be because it used to be that Hololive is more of a tech demo and way for the company to put out its name. They probably used to be paid part-time salary. Nowadays, they probably used entertainers salary as a basis. They do need to get paid for when Holo wants them to join the numerous ventures, like recording voices for HoloCity.

That's why even when they don't stream, they don't starve and as long as they still join recording or other things, Holo is honestly fine with them not streaming constantly. Holo probably prefer they at least keep a consistent stream schedule though, at least within the gen

>>48828096
>7K a month
Before tax
At which rate they could just get a supermarket job and do about the same

>>48830471
retard

>>48829440
What your gonna say vshojo? Lmao even stream charts who favors twitch shit has them at 5% of the whole fucking market pre Vei, Nyan and Silver leaving LOL

>>48829212
Salary are what they call "operational expenses". They are also not variable too since no matter how much you profit, you mostly pay the staffs same base salary excluding bonus.

Also, I understand japanese, so I know that they actually talked about Kyuryou (salary)

I hope someone torpedoes his shitty yacht.

This is what Shu Yamino's debut of Luxiem looks like.
This alone cost 2 million Yen

>>48829529
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>>48829613
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>>48830541
Why are you so afraid?

>>48830005
i think they get paid on appearances too. but I guess they are paid based on how well the video they appeared does

>>48831249
hololive success is literally a small indie comoany that came out of nowhere and dominated the industry and still growing by the way. naturally, not the accelerate kind

>>48828309
>Body language experts have commented that Riku displays more latent homosexuality than has ever been recorded.

>>48827333
Madame Tussaud's wax man looking freak

>>48828176
Based based based based

>>48830541
If you want to say that holo isn't the whole industry, despite the actual statistics involved, then by the same token there actually isn't an industry.

Have you considered moving to /x/? I watched your kind for years there, I think you'll enjoy it.

Go where you will be happy, do not force yourself to stay where you hate.

>>48831249
>use 1D time chart to prove a point

Nijicope, show us the max time chart coward.

>>48831249
show all of it chink

>>48831249
pay up the debut then retardsanji

Come home Selen, come home to Hololive while there's still time. There's a spot in EN3 open for you.

>>48831564
Holy fuck

>>48831249
who's going to tell anon about how China and stocks interact?

>>48831471
More cope please, I'll make a compilation.

>>48831576
why even bother join the company at this point?

>>48830382
>Holo is honestly fine with them not streaming constantly. Holo probably prefer they at least keep a consistent stream schedule though, at least within the gen
When you have fans like gura, ayame and shion.
Streaming is more like suggestion instead of necessity.
Honestly, streaming is like a hobby at this point to holomems.

>>48831564
>niji loses 16% of it's value
>still worth 6 times more than hololive
I fucking kneel

>>48831564
Geez, the 1D made it look like there were no issues.

I guess Vshojo is also doing totally fine with no complications by the same logic then huh?

>>48831676
anon? i think 12k to less than 6k is more than just 16%

>>48831564
>even int he reds nijisanji is worth MUCH MORE than it looks
holonigger throwing himself under the bus KEK

>>48831676
If you want to kneel to something, go check out the peaks for SVB and FTX good lord.

Stock machine go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, regardless of fundamentals.

>>48831744
Goddamn one niji market crash is the equivalent of 3 hololives lol

>>48828398
>But they never think about "How much of their talents got?"
Maybe this much?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udAjJ8gXQ2o

>"look at anycolor stocks!"
>"talents? it's livers, chud! and they're replaceable."

>whataboutism
Pat your fucking talents you chink rat

>>48828644
your deboonk has been deboonked

>>48827516
That's why they all have been SC / donation baiting / begging, anon. You can figure out their biggest source of income from that
Enna outright said she was having trouble paying her tax, for goodness sake
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1654250156391378944
that didn't sound like what someone with decent income and salary would say, unless she was either a retard or lying

>>48831916
>>48831880
you got destroyed

>>48827333
>anon criticize anycolor's lack of financial support to their talents
>nijiniggers are boasting on how much anycolor makes instead
Why they act like this?

>>48831676
>worth 6 times more
t. financially illiterate

>>48831576
>I had to make my debut as expensive as possible!!
>meanwhile in JP
https://www.youtube.com/live/e1L876_SiEU?feature=share&t=795

>>48831249
>>48831564
Holofags
>Look how cute / sexy our oshis are!
>We love that our oshis are getting more popular
>Isn't it amazing that our oshis are performing well and attracting a lot of people?
>We love these big events that both us and our oshis are looking forwards
>Did you see how many new things the company is planning and trying out to entertain us better?
Nijifags
>See how much our CEO is making! (not even how much our oshis are earning)
Something just never changes...
I just looked this up from the archive since I remember seeing it before. Guess something, indeed, never changes.

>>48831676
and none of those value goes to the livers.
you kneel to suck Riku's cock.

>>48831676
and still, their "livers" are going red because they are too stingy to give them any bit of help

>>48832034
Terminal condition called American

>>48832155
>bashing the entirety of niji based on the incident of one streamer
seems pretty hypocritical to bring up that talking point
also /#/ exists so you're already wrong

>>48828214
i don't know about debut but after that, cover doesn't do any of this for their talents, what the fuck could ever give you the idea that they give a shit? all of the stuff in that tweet is entirely for their main channel content and streams from the studio and they still manage to fuck those up all the time regardless

there's a reason so many holo debuts are riddled with tech issues. botan is the long term tech support for all of holojp and ame is the tech support for EN. everyone has lists of all the people they personally commissioned for stream assets in their stream descriptions. what cover offers is fucking shambolic compared to literally any non vtuber streaming org and you should not let them off the hook just because their talents are good.

>>48832034
unironically nijiniggers oshi is their company not their talents

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>>48832248
>>48832155
>>48832078
>>48832034
>>48831916
>>48831880
>>48831744
>>48831714
>>48831576
>>48831564
>>48831557
>>48831471

>>48832248
>Americans
>Nijifags
Lmao, why do you think all their events are in china and SEA?

it all goes back to the unicorns
unicorns are able to fund hololive and support all the girls
unicorns are the reason hololive earns more per talent
unicorns are the reason hologirls can have such a good life
and its also the reason why the girls are so committed to their job and their fans
its why they dont whore around with males on stream
it's like the relationship between flowers and bees, hololive, the girls and their fans are all connected and benefit each other

>>48832351
stocks are horoscopes for men, someone explain what this means to me

>>48832248
Not Americans, anon, but chinks. Hollow bugmen that worship nothing but money.
No matter how bad the Americans are, China and Korea are so much worse it's impossible to put into words.

>>48832465
it means the tech company that actually makes tech is winning against a tech company whose identity is youtube subs

>>48832465
if it's red it's bad if it's green it's good

>>48832351
Enjoy watching your oshi starve to death nijinog

>You can't use your PL account because you are friends with PL fans on it
>Well actually you can't because they existed before Zaion (literally every PL account existed before their current persona, how is this even an argument)
>Well actually it's because your PL account was sponsored by Genshin in the past
>Well actually it's because your account is too well known

>>48832550
>company that actually makes tech is winning against a tech
what tech

>>48832465
anons claim cover is the only vtubing company out there
I showed them wrong, simple as

>>48832575
my favorite niji streamers are eating good. Also what happened to supporting the talent instead of the company rhetoric that your kind is always peddling? Just because this one idiot blew her funds on something unnecessary doesn't mean everyone else did

>>48832640
tech of stealing money from your workers and giving it to your bug overlord

>>48832677
Much like how Mori gets 7 dollars out of every aka
whoops

>>48832640
anikara makes their own 3d and part of why their stock value is higher duh

>>48832669
>Just because this one idiot blew her funds on something unnecessary doesn't mean everyone else did
Just the fact that she not only had to pay for that herself, but also the fact that she doesn't receive any salary and had to make her own group lore herself is the revolting part, and somehow you still defend those actions, why?

>>48832714
Was the math made by first grader who doesn't understand how numbers work?

>>48831953
Everyone complains about their salary anon

friendly reminder that nijiniggers are the cancer of vtubing community. They, along with vwhorejos are the reason of vtubing decline outside of Japan.

>>48832714
much like the same way livers get almost nothing any from normal mech
woops

>>48832736
>anikara makes their own 3d
oh, so thats why it is so scuffed, explains a lot

>>48832843
>>48832873
How does yagoo's boot taste? don't forget your money gave birth to tempus
you love homofaggot cock

>Nijisanji's stock opened at 5510; now it is 5420.
>Cover's stock opened at 1400; now it is 1656.
So can any stock expert explain to me why anons in this thread said Niji's stock is better when it is undervalued?

>>48832996
oh no no no nijisisters, they're laughing at us!

>>48831664
It is a hobby, most myth have a job and holo is just a sidegig to most of them before it going big. Some holomem even treat it like a retirement home.

>>48832351
If you're brave enough to want to talk about market correction, then let's have a discussion about the state of the economies of China and the U.S. shall we?

>>48832714
Hey at least that's enough to pay for the supply of sugar lumps and salt licks.

>>48831564
Why nobody buy their stock when they got record breaking profit?

>>48832996
Same reason people think FTX shouldn't have collapsed, number big.

>>48832959
Fagoo can go fuck himself for pushing homos into hololive, dont think im fine with that shit, at least my oshi is doing fine and it better it stays like that way

"Wow niji are spending way less money than cover, it must be because it's such a well run business!"

>>48832996
because holoshills have been shitposting niji stocks for months and cover is struggling to even get to 2k when niji is almost double their value??

>>48832855
vtubing declining outside of japan is a good thing

>>48832855
they’re right. graduate mori

>>48832996
nijisanji is simply more profitable at least according to investor.

Is it sustainable? who knows.

>>48833286
Do you actually know how stocks work or do you see big number and think big number is good

>>48833522
big number = good obviously, who cares if the graph is going up or down?

>>48833522
isn't that what nijistock shitposters have done for months? Why is it suddenly wrong because cover's flopped?

>>48833286
But you need to buy twice the value compared to Cover's stock?

>>48827333
I'm starting to think some vtubers/managers/staff of corpos shitposts here and some shitposts have some truth to them.

>>48833641
Anon you know the company sets the initial price right? And that cover's has gone up while niji's has gone down? Can you guess what that means?

>>48828176

>>48832996
It's investors what drove the stock to that price to begin with.
The IPO was valued at 1100.

But on cover's case well, investment capital told them to sell or quit, they're threading the deep waters so to speak. Probably not happy about Mori and uproar.

Ironically enough to the dismay of /vt/ and unicorns, Tempus DID save HoloEN.

>>48828789
Why do you think Bae or Ame has less than 5k members?

>>48833750
it means you're coping that anycolor's number is bigger than cover's after shitposting for months?

>>48828789
Scarle alone makes more money than holoEN and she's like 300 ccv max.

>>48833750
ssshhh shh anon just let it happen, you are responsible for this pain you're feeling now
it'll be over soon, just close your eyes now

>>48833641
the initial price set by cover themselves was 750 if im not mistaken, now its more than double, so in what world is that a flop?

Didn’t realize /biz/fags were Nijifags too

>>48827603
He's a billionaire in Yen maybe. AnyColor's market cap is currently $1.24 billion, and while he own's a large chunk of that I'm sure, it's not going to be 80% or more needed to make him a billionaire in dollars.

>>48833889
>random chinese company stock is priced at $1000
>Anon:"This means they're 10 times bigger than Apple!!!"
Man I see worse shitposts on /biz/

>>48827333

>>48834161
This is the future you chose.

>>48834161
if a stock is priced at $1000, yes they are bigger than apple.

Also sometimes stock price doesn't correlate with the actual company's performance, like those times with gamestop and Bed, bath and beyond.

>>48834161
Their market cap is 167B yen.
Cover's is 102B
Simple sis

>>48833549
woah woah woah don't start talking about NFT at this point

>>48831676
AnyColor market cap: 167.45B JPY
Cover Corp market cap: 101.22B JPY

AnyColor is worth about 5/3 as much as Cover Corp. Where did you get your retarded figures?

>>48834444
Hang on, niji's market cap is less than double cover's, despite their stock being like 4-5x?

Omfg the overvalue wasn't even a meme, bahahahahahahahahahahahaha fucking dead

>>48834161
he said it best >>48834453
Anycolor is worth more than Cover.

>>48834526
Poorfag cope.

>>48834453
It's because those retard compare the unitary stock price, without realising the total number of stock are different, and draw conclusion. Basic lack of education.

>>48834611
Bruh, I've got to get you to hire me on that bored apes money.
We'll set you up with some actual guarantees - the mcdonalds hiring program will never hear from you again.

DAE choose to support a vtuber only because number big?

I love how nijiniggers point out that nijisanji is worth more and then they refuse to pay for a fucking debut, LOL. They really remind me of blizzard fans

>>48834427
I hope you're fucking trolling, but if you aren't. Go back to lereddit and never come back, retard.

>>48834427
> if a stock is priced at $1000, yes they are bigger than apple.
lmfao

>thread slows down to a crawl when subject changed to cover's stock price
never change holofags

>japanese company
>doesn't pay their girls

>israeli company
>pays the girls and provides the equipment to actually stream
Something's not right here.

>>48835606
>Holofags care way more about streamers' well being than corpo's revenue
Yeah, that will never change. Maybe that's why the Cover has to prioritize their chuuba over profit, instead of the other way around like Niji

>>48835606
Is that what nijisisters consider to be corporate fundamentals? The pace of threads /here/?

That'd explain far too much for comfort

holy shit the financial illiteracy in this thread

>>48835746
they still haven’t figured out that the cost of equipment is nothing compared to lost productivity, please understand

>>48834427
You have 0 knowledge about stocks dont you...?

>>48835800
Of course.
They literally payed nijidrones with steam gift cards.
Seriously, it's hilarious.
If you bother spent your time to shitpost on this shithole for game. Why not just pirate the game?

nijisanji is 2x bigger than hololive

>>48836011
hang on, you're telling me they get paid with steam gift cards JUST for being <70 IQs?

fuuuuuuuuuuck they wouldn't even understand liberating that would be, this isn't fair

>>48828197
Do you go by the name Chinkmapple and mod a reddit sub , by any chance? Can i call you bug too?

>>48834427
would it blow your mind that the same company can have different classes of stock or be listed on multiple exchanges, each with different share prices?

>>48836058
>2x bigger than Hololive
>Can't even afford to take care of their livers half as well as Hololive does
Not sure if that's something worth bragging about, Nijifriend...
I meant, not even small corpos require their chuubas to deal with / pay for their own debuts, holy crap

>>48836220
damn

>>48828197
And vspo is close with nijis.

>>48836220
>IM A VSPO FAN BY THE WAY LALALALALALA NOT A NIJIFAG, NOPE I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALA

we nijibros are proud of our profits

>>48832845
Yes. That's the point, there's no salary in nijisanji. That's why they complain.

>>48836205
Anon, those gift cards are literally their livelihood.
They resell gift cards for real money.
It's no liberating, it's worse than being a wagecuck.

>>48827333
Nice company Riku be a shame if all this juicy "insider" info leaked

>>48836352
>Feels so ashamed for being a Nijifag that he couldn't admit it even on Reddit hugbox
Damn...

>>48836497
yeah but hell, there are people destroying their dopamine receptors in runescape to earn more than the national average, so even that is a step up for a lot of people.

Point taken tho

>>48836374
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""WE""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>48836295
Hololive takes better care of Niji's mid-tier livers than Niji themselves does, too

is this new? i thought it was obvious all vtubers in agencies fund whatever they want on debut

>>48836863
No. It's weird, I would have thought people would focus more on her supposed issues with the newbie manager instead of this. This isn't even an "open secret" kinda thing, corpo Vtubers openly talk about paying for extra shit to make their debut stand out more.

suddenly the “knowers”. comes out of the woodwork. Organic shit ngl and totally nit some gaslighting psyop

what else do you know about the secrets from the vtuber industry anon? just so we can normalize scummy practices

>>48828176
Why are watamates so based
>t. ichimi

>>48835880
if you think about it for more than 2 seconds it's not really all that surprising

>>48827333
He looks like the "that was legitness" kid all grown up.

>>48831249
>Nijisanji is worth more than Intel
Let that sink in

>>48837748
their product does create a lot of money for them. Like voice packs doesn’t cost anything at all. Their cheap below standard merch is also low-cost. Whereas intel products probably has a very miniscule profit margin per product sold.

>>48836058
>spam out 10x as many talents
>leave them out to dry with no support
>barely beats the rival by 2x “market share” (pro tip: you don’t know stonks)
>the same rival that throws an iphone at their talents and calls it “support”

god, the corpofags in this thread.
any fucking criticism towards the company for mistreating their livers and their respond is always "BUT THE COMPANY MAKES A LOT OF MONEY".

>>48837748
>>48837905
is this elaborate shitposting or is /vt/ actually this stupid?

>>48838175
shitposting obviously. Intel creates so much value for the world that it’s impossible that Anykara black company is worth more than them.

Holy shit, the penny just dropped! Is that why half of the latest """"EN"""" wave is made up of JP talents?! Because labor laws in Japan are practically nonexistant?

B-BROS?

>>48836785
This just proves that the Holobox is real.

>>48837998
Reminder that Hololive before 2020 have less than 100 people working, on entire company.

They're reaching 400 now.

>>48838789
yes, you tend to need more support staff as an org grows.

>>48838343
It would explain a lot.

>>48829212
>> Coco is lying about they paid her salary.

KYS nigger

>>48832351
You can't even make a fuckinh meme, shill.

>>48838343
Zaion was the only Western native
>Ver
Korean
>Hex
Flip
>Meloco, Kotoka
Japan
>Pio
Brazil

Who the fuck still watches Nijisanji? What's the fucking appeal?
The company is shit, the fans are rabid mentally ill Kpopstans and most of the content is just watching SEAgulls act like an incestuous high school clique. The sooner this dogshit company dies the better.

>>48841526
This but for hololive.

>>48827333
QRD? I think I missed another niji yab

>>48841526
Who the fuck is applying these days? I'm a 1view and the drama and cliques already were putting me off, but getting the confirmation that Kurokara doesn't even help you with your debut seals the deal. If this >>48841806 is how they treat one of their bigger talents one can only imagine what else is Zaion not allowed to talk about.

>>48841952
Get in here bro
https://twitter.com/SayuOkami/status/1654681572564402176
Black company exposed

>>48838175
It's /vt/, guess.

>>48841907
hang on, are you sure nijifans are holowatchers?
I thought nijifans hated hololive?

>>48838513
If she really posted that in response then I will dial back some of my utter contempt for her.

>>48831953
The amount of taxes you pay is proportional to your income though. What that really sounds like is that she opted out of paying taxes as she got the money, spent all the money she got without thinking about taxes later on, then at the end when she was asked to pay her income tax she didn't have enough. For example, if I had to pay all my taxes at once, I would have to pay around 100k usd which is a lot of money.

>>48842836
Nijiniggers are Holo antis first and foremost and then Niji fans. It's the reason why they keep bringing up stock prices while their company is imploding and talents are getting fired left and right.

>>48842615
holy shit...

>>48827333
>you will be paid in exposure

>>48843386
So it's just projection, all the way down?

>>48838513
yes, she won at uno or something.

>>48842615
too long, I wish there was a literal summary in the form of a green text

>>48844496
>Intro+Addressing Rumors

>Before you read the next section, “Statements and Allegations”, I ask you to please read everything in this “Intro” portion first. (Please utilize the Chapter Links in the Statements later for a proper understanding of what happened.)

>Context for some of the Statements made:
-Several of the allegations written on her termination were due in part to the differences in cultural background between NIJISANJI, an agency based in Japan, and Zaion, a streamer catering to a global audience.

>-None of her VODs were privated by her decision. She did not believe in hiding her mistakes in this way, and always wished to own up to them. (Thus, this document’s purpose.)

>-On the “shotacon” topic: this was a long running joke stemming from before she was Zaion, coming from her origins as mainly a Genshin Impact streamer. Those who do not play Genshin wouldn’t know this, but in the game (ever since the first released units), several of the “meta” units were characters that had the appearance of young boys. They were mostly expressed to be quite old, Venti a several thousand year old god, Kazuha is 18+, Scaramouche is several thousands, etc. (Note that Xingqiu and Chongyun are 17 and Zaion has never made any sort of implication towards them.)
>But, the point is that, as a player who cares about being able to clear content, Zaion would make jokes about wanting these characters because they coincidentally happened to be “shota” designs. She is not at all attracted to them in any sexual way, and is appalled at the idea. NIJISANJI also never brought this up as an issue throughout the course of her employment.

>-Zaion agreed that separating would be best for both sides, but the parties were not able to reach an agreement on a joint statement.

>-While attempting to argue for a more peaceful narrative than the termination statement NIJISANJI wished to make, Zaion did get written confirmation that NIJISANJI had no intention at the time to cut off or discourage her from interacting with or remaining friends with other NIJISANJI livers. She also confirmed that NIJISANJI would not avoid commissioning or working with any creators that work with her in the future.
Reference: https://imgur.com/a/kCWTlFj

>Regarding the harassment and doxxing Zaion has received.
>She has been doxxed down to a home address, name and face by those expressing malicious intent. This happened right after her indefinite suspension on February 9th was announced, and NIJISANJI did not communicate that it would take action against the doxxers. (There is substantial video and written proof of threats including death and SWATTing, however links will be omitted for legal reasons.)

>In December of 2022, NIJISANJI released a statement declaring their efforts against doxxing and harassment. Despite that announcement, NIJISANJI did not inform Zaion that it would be taking action against the spread of personal identifying information, defamatory misinformation, and daily harassment towards Zaion while she was suspended as an active liver.

>I admit I did not understand exactly what victims of harassment went through, how mentally and sometimes physically damaging it is, and how hard it is to get any kind of help against it. Personally, I’m grateful for this experience so I can properly understand and empathize with others regarding this type of treatment.

>Thank you in advance for reading, for understanding, and for granting us some of your precious time.
>Statements and Allegations

>I’d like to preface this by saying I do NOT want any third parties to use what myself or Zaion are about to reveal or twist our words in any way to damage the reputation of NIJISANJI or its Livers.

>We understand that NIJISANJI as a brand had to do what it felt was in the best interest for its business.

>The following will be providing context and responding to the statements and allegations against Zaion.

>“Using a copyrighted song in her stream without prior authorization.”
>The vague usage of copyright infringement claimed here by NIJISANJI is actually referring to December 18th, 2022, when Zaion chose to play the first cover song release of one of her genmates on stream to support them by showing her own fanbase. Zaion was not aware that was considered a breach of copyright, and was corrected by staff and told to request specific permission for this in the future. Zaion did agree to this, and apologized thusly for her mistake. However, this still remained on her record, and was also one of the reasons for her first suspension during New Years that we’ll refer to as the “New Years suspension”.

>>48844939
Not the one who asked, but thank you anon.

>>48844939
CLOWN WORLD

>>48844939
Should probably make this in a new thread for people that couldn't be bothered to read all of it

>>48843386
>company is imploding and talents are getting fired left and right
who cares? look at how much our ceo is making

>>48845971
Trust fund kids should be shot in the cradle.

>>48840535
>>Pio
>Brazil
What the fuck??? Seriously?

>>48827333
>a salary?!
never ever

>>48843386
>their company is imploding and talents are getting fired left and right
Delusional cope. NijiEN has lost two (2) talents from 32. They're doing just fine. In fact, HoloEN losing 1 from 11 is more percentage-wise. Nothing is imploding.

>>48834427
>yes they are bigger than apple
Anon, I want you to think very carefully about what you just said.

>>48835746
no one outjews the japs, not even literal jews

>>48836863
What would be a point in joining a corpo if the corpo doesn't actually support you? If you're expected to pay for everything yourself, you might as well remain an indie and keep the ability to make independent decisions.
>are you saying a corpo should be operating at a loss?
No, of course not. Obviously, you're going to "pay off" what the company invested into you by attracting superchats and donations.

>>48835746
>outjewing the Jews
Is it possible to learn this power?

>>48828096
>>48828547
That's....not that much, in applying for jobs that pay more than that now.

>>48827333
My god, is there a single photo of this guy where he doesn't look like a faggot

>>48852028
>>48852316
Nijisanji is just acting like a vulture while the Jew is thinking long-term profits. You're simple-minded if you really think that Jews are getting outjewed here.

>>48852316
The jews have the brains to learn about returns of investment, getting double shekels. Kurosanji shotgunning everything and having talents graduate or be terminated left and right is a huge loss of potential opportunity.
You cannot outsmart the black belts of JewJitsu

>>48850979
Except that Sana had a graceful graduation and left on a positive note. NijiEN fired two talents and went full damnatio memoriase Stalin on them. And now Zaion is exposing NijiEN for being a dogshit black company full of backstabbing snakes.
On top of that NijiEN lost 80% of their viewers in the past 8 months and even got their concert canceled. They have a drama and yab every other day and the talents themselves always sound miserable.

>>48853204
good luck bro

>>48853908
>>48854152
>it takes a brain to be a Jew
That explains why I'm such a failure.

>>48828176
kek

>>48827333
This guy's face looks like a mask. Meanwhile, Yagoo has a trusting look about him.

>>48854204
Nijinog can't deny this kek

No wonder they only hire popular content creators, they ain't paying for shit and need the chuubas to spend money on debut kek

>>48857611
Riku was a businessman since his early 20s. Yagoo was a developer until 40 or something. Different paths.

>>48827333
So this is the magic niji technology to make more profit.
Not paying your employees...
I'm glad Cover isn't this shitty.

>>48857611
one looks like a guy you'd invite to a celebration. the other one looks like a guy you'd use to scare your kids into eating their vegetables.

>>48836863
>>48837161
Actually, yes, it is. At least IRyS and Baelz have talked about how Cover covered their debut expenses before. It's not like the two are special so I don't see any reason why Cover didn't do the same for other Hololive members.
>corpo Vtubers openly talk about paying for extra shit to make their debut stand out more.
But this isn't a matter of "extra shit". Sayu said AnyColor just didn't give her anything at all.

>>48834427
oh boy

Please buy his merch

>>48857611
Yagoo looks like your dad's more successful brother, Riku looks like your uncle's genetically defunct son who dropped out of the ivy league scholarship he'd been given to become a streamer for a F2P FPS he was sure was going to be the next big game

>>48831486
Yes, that's what he said. Thank you for admitting your mistake. May Yagoo's mercy shine down on your oshi.

>>48858434
Only if it comes with a free hit to his face with any blunt object.

>>48832294
2020s Cover have less than 100 people. 150 by the end of 2020 while the company size exploded by over 20 times, from having highest subs on 400k, to having 4 channels passing 1M.

Today's Cover is very different company from 2020 Cover.

>>48828644
I could have sworn Hakka talked about it before.

>>48832714
that was on her for getting double-taxed and not getting proper lawyer when she's making tons of money.

As a note, she did get a proper lawyer afterward. Why do you think she now able to buy a house?

Riku looks like that piece of shit scummy character who is the protagonists only friend so he tolerates him.

>>48844939
Ah, yeah, the shotacon that she's definitely not into, the shotacon that her channel has a command about kidnapping and locking in basements with a lewdgasm emote next to it.

>>48858146
just in case someone tried to bring Myth or even Gen 5 into discussion.

2021 Cover is different from 2020 Cover. Why do you think they were on hiring spree?

>>48854204
It's not canceled.
Pomu said so.

>>48858762
maybe holostars have different contracts or that’s just their payment before they get monetized. I mean, mans gotta eat.

>>48858519
I mean he literally said he saw vtuber as a fad and anycolor as a short term profit company. He literally doing the bare minimum.

>>48859206
I love Pomu, but that was just cope

>sleep
>wake up
>watch ESL one Dota 2 major OG vs EG
>comes back to this board
> NDF is still going at it
you need to sleep sisters

>>48828176

I love how nijifag are stupid about stock markets, the "big number" is because they have a large margin of assets leveraged to the markets, meaning they're very connected on how well their stocks go. Meaning that Anycolor is riskier than Cover, and in finances, risk is everything, you're not going to put your money where you can lost everything at the next day.

While cover is least risky and only shared a few shares and keep mooing, and guess what? they cost less and have less risk, so with more shares you have, you can mooing them.

>>48857811
>Businessman
More like daddy's little boy.

>>48859078
This is fine though. Right, sis?

>>48859756
The sad part is that even going by their financial statements they have significant cash around and not being to even pay minimum for your talents is just beyond embarrassing.

>>48859880
Isn't a problem of "how much" they have, but how much they have as a current asset. If you have the annual countable report from both of them, you can start to see where the problem is. Probably they have too much fixed assets than current assets and that create a vacuum in liquidity.

>>48859078
>This vtuber likes things vtubers like, oh the humanity

>Nijisanji doesn't care about numbers
>But have you seen our stock prices???

>>48860510
>>48859850
It's fine, but why would you blatantly lie in the opening of such an important document?

>>48827333
There's no way they have to pay for their debut...

>>48827516
they make the same money overall as still 3views, except niji eats a good portion of their rev now without offering anything good in return

>>48833891
>Scarle alone makes more money than holoEN

>>48861009
She definitely rakes in the super chats but I bet niji takes a big cut of it

Nijisanji or something, I don't know, I'm not chinese

>>48835746
i understand your point and you're definitely right but
what's an israel anon

thoughts on my oshi?

>>48827333
this man looks evil from first glance holy shit lmfao

>>48860830
It's just to get Twitter off her ass

>>48827980
The JewishGOD Aviel pays for idolcorp's expenses

>>48827980
>acting like those agencies pay for debut
Even the small agencies do that, you silly retard.

>>48863676
anycolor best (worst) practices is the industry standard because they ARE the industry with how many talents they shit out.

>>48838175
>is /vt/ actually this stupid?
Those people are 100% serious.

>>48833286
>>48833641
>almost double their value??
How are you this stupid?

>>48836058
Then why is their market cap not twice as large?
>b-but muh single share number

>>48836295
>>48837998
You're just as retarded.

>>48838175
Anon 90% of the people posting in catalog threads are 3rd world day laborers living in tin shacks and working overtime for giftcards. Expecting them to understand what a market cap is or why a stock may trade above its tangible book value is completely beyond them.

>>48863798
At this point they are more like the Chinese sweatshop of the vtuber industry.

Okay, what's the latest shit with Niji going on now? He reveal he's just outright not paying anyone and raking in the money for himself?

>>48827980
look at this corpo bootlicker and laugh

>>48864823
Kek so true

>>48858762
>>48859232
Moona discussed it because she bought new PC parts with her base salary. I think it's only around minimum wage, so it's so-so for talents in the USA and Japan, but for Indonesians it's like making $3000 a month.

>>48827980
yeah, why is this an issue? only the jewcorp pays for the debut prep, 3k usd bugdet iirc.

>>48864823
In a chinese sweatshop your equipment and materials are provided and you get paid, maybe like $1 a week but that's still actually more than Niji pay their talents

>>48865776
Zero support period, unlike Holo, and when you try to get help from a non retarded manager, you get suspended, fucking lol.

>>48827516
I don't know, but seems not that much

>>48866212
That's really depressing....and the worst part is I wouldn't be surprised if Nijisanji took a cut of those pity bucks...which is why the manager suggested it...

>>48835746
Shabbat Shalom kike
Your opinion on anything is null and void

Why is everyone upset at the stock price lol isn't this what you people like? praising numbers?
your superchats go into cover's pockets and funded homos

>>48835746
What about merch sales percentages? There is never an opportunity when a Jew doesn't jew

>>48866212
>She's looking to get married
I will save her

>>48827333
The Sam Bankman-Fried of vtuber CEOs

>>48831953
>she was having trouble paying her tax
Because the bitch didn't set aside funds from her earnings and just spent it all.