/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48828100
Yeah I think people forget how much a kind comment can mean when people are really going through it. In this day and age, it's easy to just go on with your day. We've got to be better.

>>48828100
>All the zaion support posts on /here/ helped save her from the depression of reading retards on twitter
Bros, >we actually protected a smile

>>48828100
going to try go and leave a nice comment now.

>>48828320
She protected my smile during my worst days, I shall protect her's too!

>>48828320
4chan saved a life.

I will love Zaion/Sayu forever now.

>>48828320
this bitch gave me content on /vt/
she's my oshi now

>>48828555
Based!

gonna leave a nice marshmallow for my oshi

>>48828100
>>48828320

Fucking snowflakes

>>48828100
Honestly this. Most corpo chuubas are told up front to just take the verbal beating and to deal with all of the stupid shit that comes with it. Some girls are bad at doing this and some arent, but the instances where they'll talk about it regardless are few and far inbetween. You will never know the exact extent of what theyre going through.

Just be there for your oshi bros. Doesnt have to be every stream, but these girls notice people that stick with them through the gutter.

>>48828100
This is true.
https://youtu.be/6QPV5mB5Er0
I know anon's opinions on this girl have soured over the years, but this is an easy example on how much it can make the difference to be nice to your oshi, to be supportive, even when they seem to be doing fine.
Y'all, do your best every day, ok? Let your oshi know they're doing a good job and that you appreciate them today.

>>48828100
For once... we actually did protect the smile...

>>48828100
Always remember that you will never get such support in hard times

>>48828320
We did it

Always there to protect

qrd?

>>48828972
green woman was not an anime elf for a long time, but she sure made a splash

SAYU I KNOW YOU'RE /HERE/ REDEBUT I WILL WATCH YOUR 100% GENSHIN CONTENT LABU LABU

>>48829111
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss9qgq

>>48828100
Always.

>>48828844
kys and save yourself the trouble of seeing other people happy. who knows, that might be the only time you make someone happy.

>>48828844
Kill yourself Finana

>>48828320
/vt/ truly is batman with the personality of joker after all.

>>48828844
Finana if you come to my house I'll hatefuck you.

>>48829698
I would rather throw stones at her

>>48828100
Just finished reading the entire thing. While she's not wholly faultless, the fact that the corporation more or less forced her into silence REPEATEDLY and then actively punished her for reaching out to management is actually fucking insane. She deserved better.

DEATH
TO
ANYCOLOR

DEATH
TO
CHINA

DEATH
TO
SHILLS

>>48829481
>boohoo I'm so sad. I'm an adult but I have the emotional integrity of a high schooler waaaah i wanna kill myself, I've never left the emo days
You pussies really have it easy

ANYCOLOR KILLED HER CAT
RIP HAKU

>>48830256
But enough about the literal troon who had a breakdown until they finally got booted out.

>>48830256
Why dont you tell that to your fellow homos at Niji who are begging for a safe space for everyone?

>>48828320
All hell Zaion

>>48830482
keep deflecting fag. I'm not excluding those homos; Zaion is also another pussy snowflake ripe for natural selection

>>48830968
if you seek so much of a "natural selection" why dont you fuck off to the woods instead of posting /here/ sitting behid a deks?

>>48828100
I posted positive comments on her YT video, and on Twitch too

>>48828100
Not a zionist, but a good advice for you all: if my oshi wanted me to comment more, she should have at least given all my comments a thumbs up. My efforts aren't free, and if she can't be bothered with a simple thing like that, I won't either.

>>48831236
your stupid ass can't comprehend how it works
>natural so that means going to the wilds!
back to high school with you snowflake, bring Zaion with you as well

>you guys saved me from killing myself
>vt believes it
Why?

>>48828100
Inside me there are 2 wolves...and they both love Sayu!

>>48828923
>birdkun
What a fucking blast from the past.

>>48828320
>so many /here/ retards struggling even worse than her put a smile on her face
>"It could always be worse, don't worry, (you) will survive"

It's like dolphins going for swimming with tards therapy

>>48831618
I hope you get raped by survivalists. Stop being cringe, you little chuuni rapemeat.

>>48828100
management and her own negligence aside, women (championed by their white knights) with their cliques are among the most awful things imaginable. Truly, a mafia in and of themselves.

>>48831820
Not everyone is psychopath

>>48829111
Nijisanji fired Zaion for bullshit reasons.

>>48832059
Why do you think that almost immediately after any society organizes, they put strong social controls over women. Patriarchy is a survival tactic. Anyway, i really want to cum on Sayu's feet.

>>48832056
stop being stupid

>>48831820
Because they are literally more retarded than a girl who went in corpo for the clout and the money but couldn't do a stream longer than 10 minutes without being a zoomer and had no other topic of discussing but gambling.

It's a shame because she could have been better than Meloco and Kosaka because zaion could at least align 2 English words together without fumbling, but she'll never question her entertaining abilities now she's surrounded by so many yesmen.

>>48831820
Because we love her

>>48831618
The way Zaion was handled has broken the minds of the majority of the population of the U.S., let alone the population centres of China and India, which is a bit much to naturally select against, even if we excluded the moral questions of doing so.

It also fouls foul of the treatment the majority of remaining Niji chuubas demand; there just wouldn't be a company left if it was applied across it.

But hey, calling for the destruction of Niji, you can't be that bad I guess. Unhinged sure, but hey nobody's perfect.

>>48828461
>>48831405
>>48828555
>>48828610
>>48828614
>>48828658
>>48829101
>>48829306
>>48831906
Based.

>>48831820
beta simp cucks falling for a crying girl as usual

>>48828284
The appeal of vtubers is the unrelenting menhera drama.

>>48832204
She was better than those 2 pieces of trash. Zaion was by far the most popular member of her wave until they started suspending her.

>>48832059
>>48832174

Nah bro, the exact same shit happens with gay men, and they're specifically the furthest from being any kind of matriarchy.

It's not women, it's humans.

>>48832260
SAYU I LOVE YOU LET ME CUM ON YOUR FEET!

>>48828100
She's literally been rummaging through trash cans for food scraps. Bwos we need to save her...

Alright but when is she debuting

>>48832267
>People with autism spectrum disorder are sometimes described as lacking empathy (the ability to feel along with others) and/or sympathy (the ability to feel for others).

Ayo at least you're not a simp brother fr fr

>>48828320
>she read our shitposts (on-stream) about vtubers "taking time off" on valentine's day
She's too based for this world.

>>48832306
I guess it's just a result of femininity.

I just wonder who was on the staff team that had a vendetta against her.
Fuck I feel bad for her

Can anyone link this statement for a lazy fag

>>48832343
My beautiful little trash cat...

>>48832306
>women and effeminate men aren't similar
anon you could've at least used a better example. I know there's always a group that exclude/bully/haze but women and the "Mean Girls" attitude they exhibit are in a league of their own

>>48828320
I like her a lot and she is a great and a kind person with a big sense of humor, unfortunately people are just too sensitive. But I hope she never gives up.

>>48828320
Holy fucking shit we are the good guys?

>>48828320
I used to play her stream in background while I was at the lowest points of my life, working on a never ending undergraduate thesis work I barely made any progress for the past 6 months. Feels warm inside that she appreciates my simple words of encouragement in the form of shitposting

>>48831820
she said this back in february

>>48832306
Remember that most gay men are also distinctly socialized, whether by choice or through circumstance, to be as female-like as possible in behavior and mannerisms. It's no coincidence.

>>48831820
Some anons act like edgy dudes but all they want is to do a good thing, and they get happy when they manage to do it

>>48832390
I actually hear the exact opposite for autism

They have higher levels of empathy for others

Now that she's free from the pedosanji fans, she can pander to virile young men again.

What an embarrassing thread, a womanized legion of simps

>>48832566
Paizuri.

>>48832577
Is it more or less embarrassing than being an actual woman and going to bat for Nijisanji, sis?

>>48832278
>by far the most popular member of her wave
Are you sure, anon? Are you REALLY sure?

>>48832502
We are a vigilanty so no one sees us like the hero we are

>>48828844
>Wait... did she made a rape joke? I was RAPED, this is obviously an attack to my very own experience
Snowflakes indeed anon.

>>48832390
Oh I have empathy, but it's for people who actually strive to do their best and don't resort to drama bait/"i'll kill myself" shit
Fucking losers failing once or twice in their life and calling it quits? Yeah fuck off, humanity will be better without you snowflakes

>>48828972
wait, Temako graduated?

Sayu if you stream on Youtube I will watch genshin.

>>48832442
Probably the two week manager salty from being upstaged

Based Batman anons protecting their cute chuuba from the shadows

>>48828320
I love her porn, i will watch sayu debut.

>>48832719
But she very clearly hasn't called it quits.

>>48832765
dramabaited

>>48832664
Yeah there's big titty mom... and big titty mom with headphones... and two lanky guys... let's stop pretending Zaion wasn't the one who stood out the most.

It makes me genuinely happy to know we brought her joy and kept her from taking her own life, but she's going to have Anycolor trying to drag her to court and finish her off for this. Can she really withstand that with no money and already being emotionally unstable?

>>48832719
She didnt threaten to kill herself

She just mentioned that she was depressed
Thats it

>>48828100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOkH2jGK4p0

>>48828100
>felt like suicide because she had to do her job
lmao

>>48832825
The deez nuts thing alone will be milked by her lawyer for all it's worth until the jury is wheezing

we did a good thing bros...
we did a good thing...

>>48828923
I miss coco, all the best for kson but just doesn't feel the same.

>>48832826
did you read the first sentence I said?
she still dramabaited, so she's trash
>>48832888
at least somebody gets it

I commented on every video I saw about it and called out Nijisanji and the people involved in this shit and saw through the bullshit of her termination and voiced unapologetic support for her.
Did that to many big tweets too.
Always got a bunch of nijisanji fans angry at me and I just doubled down on it and kept making them seethe.
I just wanted to call them all out.
The chance that she saw it and it made her feel better is just a bonus.

>>48832908
Nothing within matters. All that matters is the breaking of her NDA. No matter what information was in it (unless it was illegal in nature), she's not allowed to break it.

>>48828100
Women gets it but men don't. Hunh. Goes to show that kindness is only popular towards female and not vice versa.

For females, they can make up a sob story for pity worries from strangers and $ on the fly. Fake it and boom. Success.

For Males, when they are actually hurting body and soul and scream out into the void like the females. Nothing but disgust and hatred.

Goes to show that the two sides to every coin has pros and cons. Females just have it easier despite being monopausal and bleeding from the pussy bimonthly or so.

>>48832927
so true sister

>>48832802
Anon, you're so right. I'm sure her ccvs and superchat will certainly reflect your beliefs in regards to her popularity.

Zaion/Sayu love!

>>48829336
It's mostly stuff we already know, but the main takeaways are:
>Livers who play FFXIV are made to buy the game and all necessary content on new accounts using their own money. Anycolor may or may not reimburse them.
>Zaion talked about playing emulated games in the past but never intended to play any on stream.
>Zaion did not express intent to play modded games on stream. Anycolor lied about this to make her look bad.
>The offensive remarks she made as Zaion are completely her fault and she is sorry. She was tired when she made the rape joke and she feels awful about it.
>Anycolor does not allow their livers to use a PL account during their employment with the company. However, livers are not informed of this policy upon joining.
>Anycolor is afraid of Ubisoft for some reason.
>Livers are not allowed to open memberships to viewers without permission, and managers cannot give said permission.
>Zaion made a joke about being sponsored by Dee's Nuts but wasn't aware that it was an actual brand. This did not go over well with her manager.
>Sayu did not like any tweets defaming livers. However, she did accidentally like an image that praises Zaion, for which she later apologized to staff.
>Nijisanji can and will sacrifice a certain degree of professionalism to protect their brand. They told her so directly.
>Apparently, the gaslighting incident was when Zaion opened up to another liver about some of her insecurities. The other person misunderstood her and it caused some drama.
>Sayu has lost friends due to having been silenced for so long. She doesn't talk to certain people anymore because she doesn't want to know what they think of her now.
>She almost committed suicide but decided against it after reading positive comments from her fans.
>Zaion planned her debut stream using her own money. Xsoleil members were the ones who wrote the lore for their characters.
>The manager for Xsoleil was brand new to the company when they first met him. Another manager sat in on all of their calls.
>One of her streams was privated after she played a song by one of her wavemates. She was not aware she needed permission to do so.
>She got permission to use her PL account to stream Genshin provided that her user ID was covered. Staff decided after that fact that it was against the rules and privated the vod.
>Zaion's New Year's suspension was due to her DMing a manager to vent about her feelings. She was the only one punished despite a few of her wavemates doing the same.
>Yugo's break leading up to his graduation was in fact a suspension.
>One of her cats, Haku, passed away in early February and her manager was a douche about it.
>Zaion is grateful for the opportunity to join Nijisanji despite her time there being miserable.
>As a side note, Sayu/Zaion is not a shotacon. It's a dumb joke about how Genshin characters tend to look young.
tl;dr just imagine the Sayu REEEEEE webm played at max volume and you'll get the gist.

>>48832692
I feel this.
Everyone assumes i am a villain when i shit on Tempus.
But i just want to protect Hololive EN from becoming Nijisanji EN 2.0

>>48833014
snowflakes like are more fickle than troons. kys

/lig/ wins again

>>48833012
It's true but that's the way of the world. Still, I try to reach out to the bros who struggle from time to time

>>48832664
nigga she was cockblocked from growth with a fake break
she would easily be the most popular if they didn't cuck her in the beginning

>See a nijisanji make death threats about Zaions mother and swat
>Report
>2 days later a message saying that person is restreined in the social media

Ohh sweet, sweet justice

>>48828100
SAYU LOVE

>>48832963
There are many circumstances under which NDAs are simply unenforceable. Notably unconscionability.

>>48832502
>calls out chuubas for their hypocrisy such as in doing hardcore GFE while being in a relationship
>rightfully shits on management regardless of corpo for their incompetence
>wants to gatekeep normies to make the hobby more bareable
>actually watches streams based on the threads during streams and are not just clipniggers
>just makes some harmless shitpost that can be easily ignored contained in an indonesian paper crane making forum
>containment breakers are usually twitter and redditfags looking to stir shit
yes

>>48828284
fpbp

>>48833063

>>48833096
You shouldn't say stuff like this sister

>>48832502
always have been

>>48833208
But why wasn't she the most popular before the break, anon? And why would she have suddenly skyrocketed in popularity right at the moment she was sent on break? Did she plan to start playing as aether instead of lumine in genshin?

>>48832563
Depends where they are on the spectrum honestly.
High-functioning ones that aren't railroaded into logic obsessions tend to be dangerously over-empathetic, but the rest either lack or struggle to comprehend it.

my main takeaway from this is Niji doesn't allow their livers to even use PL social media
what the fuck, this is some real black company shit, especially when you don't pay them anything

>>48832566
Bro try telling that to the muslims, that's completely not how it works.
Consider saying 'red-blooded american men' maybe, but not virile lmao.

>>48828320
We attac but we also protec. SIEG ZAION!!! DOWN WITH NIJISANJI!!

>>48833309
I just looked into it and you're right. To quote an ACLU article, "For example, a court may consider a one-sided nondisclosure provision substantively unconscionable if it silences the survivor but leaves the employer free to slander them in the press."

This is primarily talking about sexual assault victims, but the principle behind it is what's important.

>>48832719
There is absolutely an argument for that, yes.
Trick is though, have you seen the state of the rest of them?

Sure, sinking the boat might kill the captain you hate, but it'll probably kill all the rest of the passengers too.

>>48828320
I will make her dependent on me

>>48832888
>felt like suicide because she had to follow a specific contract
>"not a black company by the way guys! Just a lack of employee motivation!"

Some people have no idea how lucky they've been and are

SIEG ZAION

>>48828844
shitposting is fun
but just straight up harassing people and saying lies is just mean anon

>>48833746
Only if they don't like you. Kyo still uses his PL account

>>48833884
Hasn't she already suffered enough? Shame on you.

>>48833847
If the rest of the passengers are freeloading snowflakes who can't even lift a finger to help fellow passengers because they're so busy caring about the snowflake captain, they can go with him too for all I care
We'll be better off with other boats that somehow are able to keep themselves afloat

>>48833998
Finding out that somebody that sounded so dark-as-night Tyrone black was actually somehow a fat white twink had me on the floor

All his fans hoping he'll leave them with a fatherless child and yet he genuinely more likely to be considering adoption with a boyfriend, it's so unreal.

Honestly after reading all that shit, I don't really care about drama and ALL OUT WAR, I just hope Sayu feels better soon.
The doxxing and cat death really hit her hard. Unfortunate timing.

>>48834063
>Down with niji!
Hey, won't get any complaints from me on that front, regardless of whether or not you realise you're saying it.

>>48834120
best-worst part is it mentions the doxxing as if it were a single thing, and not a full-doxx, followed by the move away from there, which was chased by a 'just-in-case' followup full-doxx because the first one 'hadn't shown results'.

Nijisisters playing armchair-putin

>>48828923
>Y'all
But yes I do miss Coco. I hope kson is happy, regardless of whatever cringe she occasionally spews, but it's just no the same as that wonderful period in 2020 when Coco was making her best shitrposting content.

>Zaion was already entering "Literal who" territory
>Takes her over a month to squeeze out unverifiable claims
>She is the struggling protagonist and Nijisanji are somewhere between a generic anime villain trope and James Gunn "incompetent character" shit
Until i can see some verification to these claims, even via rrats or other terminated talents, i'm gonna chalk this up to her wanting to be relevant again

>>48834142
Yeah
Though I wish VShojo's ship goes first though kek

>>48834244
>Until i can see some verification to these claims, even via rrats or other terminated talents
Everything lines up with what Niji usually does

>>48834063
>muh snowflakes
You sound like one bro.

>>48834373
enough about you

All this is telling me is that if I ever see Kyo irl, it's on sight. Any first signs of being a serpent need to be put out

>>48834244
>last picture with Haku
She appeals to vts savior complex and is undoubtedly /here/. Suddenly everyone's spergy rambles here have been given the vindication of having prevented this poor woman from taking her own life. This means their lives aren't meaningless and all those hours they spent shitposting sieg zaion and such and such weren't all for nothing. Her cat is dead and including that picture in the twitloger in the final page was absolutely necessary. Your words have saved her, anon. You are a hero.

>>48828844
kys anykara intern

>>48828100
Not even my oshi, but I did leave a positive comment on her YouTube channel (and she did heart it). Glad it helped.

>>48834543

>>48830968
idk anon if youre posting here, youre not much better off in natural selection.
and yes that does include myself, but im willing to admit that
>>48831820
watching vtuber is about telling yourself lies anon.

>>48834543
Hmm, who should I believe, the fired emoloyee, or the probable Chinese spy ring?

Of course Im gonna fucking believe her over the Anykikes, retard.

>>48832577
corpo dick riders will always be the most pathetic species

>>48834543
Another sad sister displaying no empathy because another woman is getting attention...

>>48833998
there has to be some personal overlap between Niji management and talents, such a disparity of treatment is not excusable

>>48834707
>he posts here therefore he must be here 24/7 and not because maaaaybe it's Saturday tomorrow
don't lump me with you simps

>>48834820
>I only go to the bathhouse on Saturdays so I'm totally not a faggot.
Anon, you roll around with pigs here and you will be covered in mud. Doesn't matter if it's once a week.

>>48828100
Zaion....I will try using twitch just for you.

>>48828100
Yeah man that's cool and all, but is anyone ever made AI porn of Zaion yet? Her model was so goooddd, man

>>48828100
>Reminder to always support your oshi.
I do, i buy his merch and watch him get more money than this cunt ever will kek

>>48834961
You should cut for him too

>Zaion simps are praying Niji doesn't respond to t his direct attack on their person because they won't like the results
In other less pathetic news, i wish Enna or Millie would be put on the chopping block next, make Elira fuck off with her nepo powers

>>48834904
>i don't think people can be one thing and be another at different time
I'm not as simple NPC with a single "mode" like you. Again, don't lump me with you SIMPletons

>>48835010
*at a
*a simple

>>48835007
keep seething

>>48835010
Denial doesn't unfuck your anus and wash off the mud, pig.

>>48835080
But enough about you

Likelihood 2 week manager is a nepo baby? Explains how they got a huge responsibility very early, and how higher ups would as if thoughtless throw a talent under the bus to save face for manager

>>48834943
Someone already trained a model on her, you just have to check if the latest vtuber-tailored one has her or if it's a fork

>>48835067
Not my company's mess roru

>>48834244
that statement reads and looks like it was written by the assistance of a lawyer

>>48834543
we get it, showing the family pet you murdered didn't guilt your ex into staying

But we're talking about Sayu here, so why are you bringing your own issues up?

>>48834689
my nigga

I heard from /hlgg/ that there were women in this thread.
Anyone wanna ERP?

>>48835269
If you think that's how lawyer speak looks like, then you're either a literal child and/or have never spoken with an attorney

>>48828555
Every single time I see this image I think of the bandage shape on the right as a pregnancy test.

>>48835375
i said the assistance, not actually by one

>>48835163
I'd be very surprised if that dude isn't related to the manager watching over him. That whole story just reeks of "my uncle got me this job."

Since I don't know what the main thread covering this issue could be, I'll just drop this here:

tl;dr it all started because of genshin
zaion let her previous success as an indie get to her head and she tried to rock the boat too early. to a japanese corpo, that's a big no-no. I don't agree with it, but it's just how japanese corporate culture is.
nijisanji did her dirty, made her lie to her fans, reached really far to find excuses to get rid of her, and also made her front the costs for her debut.
she also got doxxed like aloe did and just like cover, nijisanji did absolutely nothing despite having their document regarding action against doxxers and harassers.
nijisanji smeared her reputation with all of those far-fetched reasons and honestly, I smell a defamation lawsuit.
but sayu mostly wants to put the issue to bed at this point, and I really wouldn't expect nijisanji to respond publicly.
zaion's cat ended up passing away. I'm sure one of the many reasons why zaion wanted to join was to be physically close to her cat, and afford her cat's medical care, which has been expensive.

I would wish for zaion to see this comment and to know that I support her.

>>48833746
Can't be.
There's plenty of people that do.
Mya is the only one I care to follow though because she is a good singer and even sang for a Sony extended trailer for Playstation in '22 if I remember correct.
Even in EN, Millie posted on hers and that one was a vtuber, not just personal social media.

At the most, I think they make heavy emphasis on being Nijisanji-exclusive, or suggest to nuke their personal social media / heavily suppress or make private in the cases where it could result in stalkers harassing them.
We all saw how that went. Lulu fucked off over their silly ideas and minor abuse of the law to make her look "horribly distraught over a stalker" when she is used to shit like that happening because of her (extremely) public life. (fuck, she has been on TV many times, with pretty high-tier comedians at that)

Given that some have said recently that a lot of talents don't even talk to each other much, it makes me wonder what the fallout from this post will be.
Will people translate it for JPs to read? I hope so.
Nobody would willingly post something like this for ebin internet points and potentially result in legal issues in court (which will rightfully be dropped if it did get to court anyway).
That's some scum-tier behaviour in the management side of things.

zaion love
nijisanji hate

>>48835538
>I don't agree with it, but it's just how japanese corporate culture is.
>I don't agree
>but
So you do agree otherwise having this part in your sentence is illogical

>Elira's very first Genshin stream, aka the first Genshin stream for EN, is on a brand new account
>Selen talked about and still talks about having to make new accounts for all the FPS games she wants to play, even if she 100% purged her friend list
>Zaion uses this argument of "they didn't tell me" as the major wedge in her story
oh no no no Zaicucks, it's not looking good!

I hope Gundou sees this and goes indie

>>48828320
O SONS OF SIDE 3
SIEG ZAION

So wait, if the 2 week manager was so bad, why did all 5 other members have 0 issues with him/her, and only zaion was suffering?
Also aren't they still currently their manager?

>>48835672
doesnt matter what anon agrees with when reality is going to happen regardless of agreement.
>>48835694
do you think anyone watches streams?
even if its common sense, common sense is often forgotten.

>>48828320
>>48828555

Damn bros, her model is very cute. Shame it's gone forever.

>>48834095
He's WHAT.

>>48835816
>all 5 other members have 0 issues with him/her
headcanon?

>>48836020
he's an unironic wigger

>>48836155
headcanon would be you assuming there are issues with the manager. I can easily prove there aren't issues since there is no media of manager having genuine, long lasting issues with the other 5 XSoleil members.

>>48828320
She's pretty cool. I hope she's successful moving forward.
Nijisanji is a black company, and I hope it goes under. Fuck 'em.
>>48835538
> it all started because of genshin
>zaion let her previous success as an indie get to her head and she tried to rock the boat too early.
Did you even read the doc? They gave her explicit permission to use her old account as long as she hid her user ID. If they just said "Yeah, make a new one," there wouldn't have been a problem. This is all on Nijisanji.
>>48835816
If you've ever had a bad manager in the workplace, you'd know why only one employee is suffering. Bad managers can make a lot of fuck ups, but most of those fuck ups congregate around one employee or one aspect of the workplace.
i.e. I had a manager "accidentally" put new/slower workers on harder/faster production lines, which fucks with everyone. Most of the blame falls to that employee, when it's solely a management issue.
Also, who's to say they aren't having issues with the 5 other members and they're just keeping quiet?

>>48833063
>The offensive remarks she made as Zaion are completely her fault and she is sorry. She was tired when she made the rape joke and she feels awful about it.
>As a side note, Sayu/Zaion is not a shotacon. It's a dumb joke about how Genshin characters tend to look young.
Literally her main appeal points so far and she deflected hard from them

So when is she joining Mythic?

>>48836285
>Nijisanji is a black company, and I hope it goes under. Fuck 'em.
youll die first than anycolor or nijisanji will, anon.

>>48836931
Probably, but a boy can dream.

>>48836678
I think the shotacon deflect is to try and get twitter off her ass. She talked about shotas outside of Genshin streams, and even has her bot have a !shota command on her Twitch account. She clearly is a shotacon and she just got scared of Twitter faggots.

>>48835816
>t. quite literally has never had a job at any point in their life

SUPER NEET SAMAAAAAA

>>48835212
Oh hey, nice! I just want to see her naked, man....

I don't really do twitter so it thought "haha twitter sucks so bad" was a meme. But reading how half the responses to this are
>"Don't care, she made a rape joke once, so i guess she probably should have killed herself?????"
is absolutely mind blowing. What turns people into that?

>>48836235
No, no, I figured that, I didn't think he was fat too.

>>48837335
old tumblr brain poisoning leaked onto a bigger platform making the brain poisoning worse for a larger amount of people.
though as far as i can remember tumblr culture at least made people less likely to wish death so openly, they just got upset and then some more extreme people wished death on others instead of it being the default.

>>48836987
Anon got it posted before me. She has a shota command and it just smells like she's avoiding getting twitter retards mad.
>>48833063
>the gaslighting incident was when Zaion opened up to another liver about some of her insecurities
>The other person misunderstood her and it caused some drama
>Finana is so fucking retarded that she takes someone opening up to her as somehow trying to manipulate her
That, or the fish herself does this with people and projected Zaion was gaslighting her.

>>48837564
finana is pretty easy to manipulate to be fair, thats how she got manipulated into friending a group of tranny fans who got her into trouble by complaining about the use of the word trap.

>>48837335
Oversocialization
>28. The leftist of the oversocialized type tries to get off his psychological leash and assert his autonomy by rebelling. But usually he is not strong enough to rebel against the most basic values of society. Generally speaking, the goals of today’s leftists are NOT in conflict with the accepted morality. On the contrary, the left takes an accepted moral principle, adopts it as its own, and then accuses mainstream society of violating that principle. Examples: racial equality, equality of the sexes, helping poor people, peace as opposed to war, nonviolence generally, freedom of expression, kindness to animals. More fundamentally, the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. All these have been deeply rooted values of our society (or at least of its middle and upper classes [4] for a long time. These values are explicitly or implicitly expressed or presupposed in most of the material presented to us by the mainstream communications media and the educational system. Leftists, especially those of the oversocialized type, usually do not rebel against these principles but justify their hostility to society by claiming (with some degree of truth) that society is not living up to these principles.

tl;dr Oversocialized retards have rage and self-loathing, but they have no practical release for it besides targeting people who do and/or say no-no things that go against society at large. Those no-no things are vacuous and transient. The targets can't find recourse because they've already been "marked" by oversocialized retards.

>>48838060
>quoting TK
I don't agree with his thoughts on industrialization, but his commentary on leftism and everything else is based

So basically what happened was
>a retard with no prior experience (2 weeks) as manager was hired to manage an entire new wave debut, different from the manager that trained said wave
>that retard went on a powertrip when one of the livers complained to another manager, disrupting the chain of command
>xir/xem decided xem life mission was bullying Zaion into graduation, so every single minor issue that every liver do all the time, was magnified when Zaion did it and recorded in the book of grudges
>other nijilivers threw her under the bus after seeing the termination notice trying to make her be unemployable in the future
Wactor but with chinese managers

>>48838221
I'm going to do my lawyer a favor and agree with your take whole-heartedly.

>>48838060
So it's basically an excuse for bad people to still act like bad people, but without the risk of being rejected socially by hiding behind a guise of righteousness.

>>48837335

>>48828100
>> If she never join Nikisanji
>> She won't lose money from debuting
>> Haku cat may survive because she doesn't lose money for Zaion debuting

BLACK IT SO BLACK!!

>>48838844
I was never raised religious and can't say i believe in that stuff myself, but this is why i genuinely believe society needs God to function. It should not be in the hands of men, news outlets, and governments to determine what's moral. People can be fucking monsters if they believe they're doing it for a just cause because someone told them it was.

Do tourists really get that triggered over shota and loli? It felt weird seeing her having to apologize for it when so many JP livers are openly shotacons

>>48839052
Well, that's what God is dead means. We killed God and should feel bad about it.

>>48839060
I bet the phrase "problematic age gap" means nothing to you, be thankful for that

>>48828100
My oshi tends to ignore all the positive comments and carefully comb through any negative ones

>>48837335
Echo chambers are one hell of a drug

>>48832502
No, >we are more like a wild card to be honest. Chaotic neutral if we were to melt every single /vt/ anon into goop.

>>48839052
And then we have all the shit done "in the name of god". Humans are just unhinged pieces of shit a lot of the time

>>48834961
I understand you buy riku merch but i don't remember him streaming. Just in case if you buy other people merch remember that most of the money goes into riku pocket so you aren't actually supporting your oshi, obviously we know you oshi is riku isn't is sister?

>>48839052
Society indeed needs Logos but powerful people in three brackets choose not to because destroying any notion of older preconceived morality makes them more powerful and totalitarian. In a world without the barriers of morality, only sheer power that's left to become the arbiter for what's right and wrong.

>>48828320
feels good man

>>48839362
This is something I realized too, but to have everyone united through some kind of moral throughline, it's at least a little harder to manipulate them to change that based on the current political climate. Grim as it is, it's at least more stable to have everyone united in the handful of things they consider "immoral" and what atrocities they can commit against those, then to just have hundreds of little pockets of echo chambers and manipulators cultivating their own zealots against each other.

>>48835375
It's extremely reminiscent of other lawyer supervised statements I've seen. Mick Gordon's statement about id Software and Zenimax, as an example.

>>48828320
YUP. I'm handsome. Death to all nijisisters.

>>48838470
WACTOR IS chinese. Bili2 money. They also had green light to collab with Niji.

>>48834961
He cucked you with latina ghost, and then cucked her and double cucked you with a brit whore and dry ass pasta.

>>48839263
It means nothing to me because I can separate fiction from reality. I just get annoyed when I see people on twitter losing their shit over something so inconsequential and then cheering for someone's suspension because of it

>>48839362
>And then we have all the shit done "in the name of god
still killed far too less people than with the era of revolutions and mechanized warfare, where people finally are enlightened enough to justify killing people of faith and ethnicities different from your capital's ethnicity

>>48833063
>The offensive remarks she made as Zaion are completely her fault and she is sorry. She was tired when she made the rape joke and she feels awful about it.
Why say this?
It won't make twitterfags leave her alone, now they just have an easier time attacking her.

>>48839826
Shit like this + the mental breakdown over Hogwarts have made me realize you should NEVER EVER apologize to these people. They only want other people to feel as miserable as they are

Everything checks out if you have been watching Pomu for at least the past 6 months, nijisanji's management is pure cancer

>>48838727
Sort of.
His point is more that society places a strict moral code on people. Socialization means you can fit into society, but you don't necessarily accept all societal codes. For example, society tells you to be "nice" to everyone, but everyone harbors some amount of hatred for another person.
Oversocialization means you fit into this strict moral code to the extent that one rejects their own natural emotions. They feel burdened by these inclinations. Nonetheless, they still follow them out of guilt. Consequently, oversocialized people find an outlet in whatever society tells them is bad, and then claim that following society's teachings to such a degree is "rebellion."
So in a way, everyone is "bad," but oversocialized people think they aren't "bad" because they're just following society's rules to an extreme. They aren't hiding behind righteousness per se. They genuinely think they're "good" for enforcing society's will. And that's a problem, because they are always going to push towards whatever the next extreme societal dogma is in order to satisfy they're repressed shame.

>>48834227
Dont insult putin by equating him to trannies

>>48834689
Fuck you, now I will cry over Keiji Fujiwara death all over again.

Btw amazing game, also thought about him when she said her car was Haku

>>48828100
I send my oshi nice maros it feels good

>>48830371
>troon
>they

pick a side you fucking fencesitter

>>48840167
qrd?

>>48828320
>4chan(nel) saved a life while redditniggers and twittertrannies actively sought to destroy it because she offended their corpo suit Gods
The last humans in the internet
https://youtu.be/mZRP7nQkfrM

>>48839263
>she's a 25 year old teenager you sick fuck

tldr: fuck nijifagji literal black company.

>>48840945
To quote a post from long ago: 4chan/Anons are good people acting like assholes; Redditors are assholes acting like good people.

>>48840779
>Her manager is a lazy fuck who literally ignores her and doesn't do his job
>Several projects getting cancelled for "mane-san reasons"
>Went on vacations to japan, ended up spending most of the trip doing work related stuff
>When she came back she was even more tired and burned out than before
>Talked with some of her coworkes and found out that she is no longer allowed to do most of the plans she was working on
>She can't do 3D home streams because her model is still not ready (her 3d debut was in january)
>Doesn't like working for a company, but she is not planning on quitting yet because she enjoys spending her time with her fans and her nijifriends
I'm sure some of the other talents have similar stories

>>48840523
He's not a fence sitter, like basically all transphobes, he doesn't really grasp the concept of transgenderism well, so he isn't really sure what to call him in order to disregard his identity, so he just calls him "they" to avoid accidentally affirming his gender identity. People who aren't transphobic often do the same thing for similar reasons, though obviously in their case they're trying not to accidentally use the WRONG pronoun.

>>48830041
A lot of the issues were really minor that should never have been issues in the first place, the thing about her being a former genshin ambassador was just pure butthurt probably because of some soured deal with mohoyo I'd suspect.

For being a pseudo-idol agency they sure as fuck suck at managing talents in a non-invasive way. Also how aggressively they pull people in and out of "hiatuses" even at the start of a contract is just borderline psychotic self-sabotage for both the company and the streamer let them grow before you lock them out of minor shit. Probably one of the worst on-boarding processes I've seen outside of the usual small company "lol figure it out" approach.

>>48832963
>all those "not included for legal reasons"
Anon, she went over this with her lawyer
It should be fine

>>48841806
>Doesn't like working for a company, but she is not planning on quitting yet because she enjoys spending her time with her fans and her nijifriends
Her OL stockholm syndrome is kicking in.
Not wanting to work somewhere but finding every reason to want to stay

>>48841806
Don't get why she's being complacent, I get not wanting to leave your friends behind and she probably senses that Niji management would blackball her and ban her new persona from ever publicly interacting with Nijis again but still.

Is cover this bad too behind the scenes? They seem to have both very strict and very loose guidelines and are very inconsistent. It's basically like dealing with a company that has twitch TOS and twitch levels of enforcement of the TOS.

>>48828320
So this is what it felt like protecting a person smile….

>>48832731
Yeah she had a manga page going up each day until her graduation.

>>48842136
>She quit her day job to get stuck in her day job but with schizoid fans and management
I actually feel bad
Kiara... save her

Honestly, it sounds like management just didn't like Zaion pushing so hard to keep using her original genshin account
And regarding the forced breaks she is talking about, I wonder if Millie was really suspended after the /here/ stream

>>48842379
If she's taken a mysterious break, then yes, she's suspended

>>48842160
>Don't get why she's being complacent
It's a combination of low self esteem and not knowing what she wants to do in the future.

>>48842379
Seems like they took it as a sign of her being "difficult" when they're doing their little pecking order bullshit, they just went a bit too hard on someone that was probably just clueless about the workplace culture there and pushed her out in record time. Sounds like dumb management not knowing how to correct behaviour for a new hire, they should have been able to correct it better maybe try and pair her up with a sempai for a week or two to let them learn from each other.

>>48841806
Being stuck with niji managers and nijisisters must be absolute torture. Pomu, Elira, and Millie should leave and reincarnate into their indie PLs.

>>48841806
>>48842136
>>48842160
Pomu really deserves better but I'd imagine she has a non-competition thing going on that would stop her from jumping ship into Holo or any other agency right away.
Her comment about friends too is odd. Isn't there a rrat that she's not talking or collabing much with the rest of Lazulight? She's also not part of Elira clique.
>>48842379
She definitely was, Anon.
>>48842744
>Elira
>Millie
RORU
RUMAO EVEN
They're part of the problem.

>>48834244
So you plan to fault someone for making a cohesive statement about things and addressing every single claim instead of spontaneously writing up some rage-fueled horseshit that was also not proofread by legal expertise to protect your own ass, gotcha

Maybe watch Kyou and Enna streams instead of posting here if you're so desperate to be a faggot

>>48842929
Yes but their PL models were pure sex. I want them back.

>>48828320
In the end, we actually saved her.
Sieg Zaion!

>>48828320
That part made me happy

>>48842508
I think it went down like...
>Someone found out that Zaion was a popular genshin streamer and didn't like the idea of her using her original account
>They didn't want to confront her directly, so they used japanese corpo autism to vaguely allude to some company rules
>They got surprised when Zaion fought back
>They told her again in a japanese corpo way to just fuck off and obey
>Zaion refused to give up and instead talked with her genmates to ask for their help
>Management really didn't like this, because the talents should just obey and not cause problems
>The straw that broke the camel's back was Zaion ignoring her manager and talking with that other staff member she trusted
>"She is not only refusing to obey, she is also literally doing whatever she wants and we can't control her, she is a troublemaker and is not a good fit for our brand"
It's so fucking dumb. I'm sure that Zaion knew what was going on and even so she kept pushing because she thought she had a real chance of winning, but management acted like a bunch of fucking assholes

>>48833063
>Dee's nuts is a real brand
no shit, wasn't expecting that.

This is why nothing beats supporting an indie even if they are 2views

They're giving en the bare minimum, or is this the same in JP I wonder.

>>48828100
>> Kson
>> Slavery

I understand her word now
Sorry Kson, You try your best for warn us

>>48833063
>Zaion's New Year's suspension was due to her DMing a manager to vent about her feelings. She was the only one punished despite a few of her wavemates doing the same.

What's the fucking point of having a manager then?

>>48830256
>>48830968
Always fun to watch internet edgelords sperg out

>>48844144
I mean, she went to complain to another manager about the company rules. I know, it's dumb, but it's japanese autism.

>>48844144
For give punishment to talents

>>48828320
based

I appreciate Zaion's efforts on not calling out that snake of Kyo

>>48833063
Apologizing to nasty twitter people rubs me the wrong way.
I wont defend Zaion anymore, seems like shes more interested in the opinion of people like them than people like me.

>cat pic at the end

>>48843457
I hate dumb short-sighted managers like that it's like they don't get the correlation between a good dedicated worker and more goodwill and good mindshare when they're happy and working on all cylinders.

Hope Sayu has a successful indie run instead and Niji will probably slowly shrink the more shit like this leaks out unless they separate the EN and JP branch more to stop the JP autismos from poisoning the well with the global crowd.

>>48844107
Kson was a bit of a right message wrong messenger thing. She's just not that good at expressing complex situations from her unique JSL-to-ESL transformation so a lot becomes unclear or misinterpreted.

>>48836678
>>48836987
Denial is the best way to get twitterfags off your back and have somewhat of a plausible deniability in case you get taken to court or something.
Twitterfags don't watch streams anyway, so they'll believe what they want, it only matters that you get your own narrative out there.

>>48838470
Sounds like the manager wanted to make an example out of Zaion so the others would just shut up and do as they said like JP talents do. This is why you should have different EN and JP managers and management training so shit like this doesn't go unchecked.

>>48844700
If she speaks more detail, Nijikeks will attack her for sure.

>>48829336
>She is not at all attracted to them in any sexual way, and is appalled at the idea
stopped reading there and holy fucking D R O P P E D forever

>>48844373
You already made it evident why she "cares" about twitter tranny opinions
>I wont defend Zaion anymore, seems like shes more interested in the opinion of people like them than people like me.
>meanwhile twitrannies dox and death over the most benign shit
And its just a token excuse anyway. She basically went
>"i would not frick this 2d fictional genshin character i swear guys that would be so fricked up if i lusted over his fictional hot shota bod please ignore my diverse and expansive shota lusting history it was all jokes okay"

If one token paragraph in a 22 page doc has even a chance of getting freaks off your back over shotacon of all things, then I think its fair to try.

Coward lol
Won't even work

>>48832731
>>48842175
i never watch temako but i was in her thread when she graduated.
i read the manga too.

>>48835132
>>48834461
No u

>>48828320
Struggle on valiant struggles. You have earned yours when it is all said and done.

>>48844961
The best way would be to collect their names and threaten them with legal action

>>48844961
To toss away what you like to get on the "good side" of people who were fucking harassing you is a disgusting move. No self respect.

>>48844971
This.

>>48833746
A bunch of JP Nijis have active PL accounts, they just delete shit that they post after 8 hours or so in order to avoid management's eyes.
https://streamable.com/51juoi
Enna already states that in NijiEN if you lie low, apologize and grovel for a while then management usually looks the other way and you can go back to doing whatever the fuck you want after a week or two of lying low.
Zaion's issue was actively confronting management and trying to "improve" them, thinking she was in Hololive or something.

>>48845159
>toss away what you like
>a paragraph of lip service
Dont worry, she still fingerbangs herself to xingqiu despite what she said in the doc. Also, man, its not a character defining moral that shes folded on. Its a fetish. Lying about a fetish or preference so people lay off. Thats it.

>>48835375

>>48842379
What was her /here/ stream? Haven't seen it nor do I really watch her regularly.

>>48844038
Reading this whole document is jarring. It's just a series of incomprehensible malice and bullying for no reason. My own unsubstantiated rrat is that internally Nijisanji operates on a group/clique basis to such an extent that some get preferential treatment. It would explain why some were allowed to play Genshin with their PL account while she wasn't - she was seen as a threat that would "steal" numbers when it came to that specific game. It would also mean that the entire culture within Nijisanji is toxic as fuck and revolves around mutual backstabbing and conspiracies. I repeat that this is just my rrat.

But even if I'm wrong about that this whole thing reeks to high heaven. It's not incompetence at work or even delusion (the HoloEN's Tempus disaster), just plain old bullying and total disregard for her as a person. Nijisanji's shotgun approach never sat well with me, but I never thought it's that bad. I never thought they see talents as THAT expendable. The mere fact she had to pay her own debut stuff is absurd. What the fuck is the purpose of the company then? Where's the benefit? Exposure and shit is just bullshit, that never ever has any meaning in any business and is just a nice smokescreen to make you work and bleed for nothing. Every job or company that makes you pay for shit on your own or makes you a free intern or volunteer is just stealing your time, money and labor. It's amoral.

I'm too tired to go on with this but yeah, black company in full meaning of the word. It's all just fucked. I hope she finds her footing and prospers and leaves all of this behind in tangible terms. I wish her success as an indie.

>>48837335
These "people" think they are justified in every foul thing they do because they are lgbtq/black etc.

>>48842379
> I wonder if Millie was really suspended after the /here/ stream
> "First, as Zaion was forcefully locked out of all of her accounts during her second suspension, she resorted to using her PL Twitter account to browse Twitter."
Seems pretty obvious with pic related

>>48828320
>mfw an autistic and retarded forum about anime streamers saved someone's life

I genuinely feel bad.
I was one of the people saying she wasn't professional and should have been fired when the information was relatively new.
It took coming /here/ to realise that there might be more to the story.
And now it turns out there was.

>>48839362
The number of people killed "in the name of God" is less than a tenth than those who killed for muh ideology, muh right to rule, or muh government imposed moral system

>>48846317
Many such cases.

>>48828844

Remember to report off-topic posts, such as those discussing religion or politics. They do not belong in a vtuber thread and the people who make them are fucking morons who don't belong on this website.

>>48840945
>>48841689
at last.
I finally see the truth.

>>48846682
Imagine being this much of a faggot

>>48845516
Even in the best case scenario, "lip service" is stil lying. Coward.

>>48831820
I really believe that if she, an already mentally ill girl, didn't have any supporters through this, and only had haters telling her to kill herself for being scum, she would be more likely to kill herself. Crazy.

>>48846682
*redditfag here*

>>48828320
>we have a purpose after all
Hold me, bros...

>>48846839
Go tell your mom what the most degenerate thing you yank to is
>thats n-not the same, false equiv-
Retard, I dont care anymore.

>>48847076
Come here bro... (no homo)

>>48843702
Wait are they talking about me beasts chocolate bar? Because it’s the name of the chocolate bar but the brand is feastables

>>48847283
Mr beasts*

>>48833096
sister that is so rude, what if the twitter crowd finds out about this??? you'll get doxxed!

>backed down hard from being a shotacon in the first page
don't care about the rest, that's one less chuuba for me then

>>48847775
Please tell how would you make being a shotacon sound good in a text that's supposed to make people feel sympathy after hearing your side of the story

>>48844253
It truly is chink autism. I'm american I've worked in several companies and would go to another manager or team lead and inform ask them about an unclear issue or double check my manager wasn't just being incompetent. If there was an issue we'd take it higher up ask others in the group if they had the issue, etc. Even friends have done this and they've worked for normal companies like amazon and walmart.

>>48837564
>or the fish herself does this with people and projected Zaion was gaslighting her.
It's DEFINITELY this. Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they aren't also a cunning manipulative piece of shit. if there was ever any doubt that she's a spiteful retard then her stunt on april first cleared that right up.
>>48846199
The vitriol that was directed at some vtubers over the hogwarts game was absolutely insane, as was the kowtowing. if 'unicorns' are evil because they're a group of rabid insane people trying to control a vtuber through fear and intimidation then who the fuck do these actual psychos trying to harass people to death think they are, and worse is how they were capitulated to instead of told to fuck off and fuck themselves like the vermin they are.
well besides silver and she will always be based for doing that.

>>48848015
>please tell me how making your apology to cater to a group of retards who don't care about you with flimsy excuses on things you said that were perfectly ok would make it sound less sincere?
translated your post from retardese for any other anons wondering what the fuck you're on about

>>48847775
If a lawyer actually went through this do you think they would say
>yeah the shotacon part. die on that hill, there is nothing illegal about pedophiles

>>48837335
saviour complex

>>48848251
1. shotacon isnt illegal
2. imagine apologizing for your fetish lmao
dropped

>>48848251
you think a lawyer went through and helped make this document? genuinely confused on your point

>>48848397
It is in some places

>>48848251
What kinda fucking lawyer would ever let someone make a twitlonger, let alone a statement that fucking opens with
>I'm not the person in question, she's just my sisters friends brothers cousins twice removed aunt's wife
Legally speaking, the best move would be to not make a public statement at all, because her legal name is tied to both of these two seperate vtubing accounts. She would lose the case from the literal second she walked into a courtroom if she was pressed on that attempt at a deflecting backstory. Not even lawyer is as retarded as Edgeworth anon.

>>48848605 (me)
I wanna clarify that I'm not shitting on her at all, I don't care about this whole mess one way or another because it's just popcorn fuel to me, I'm just shitting on anons braindead comment.

>>48848605
>>48848417
Its obvious a lawyer didnt actually help write it. I think I just confused her talking about omitting things for legal reasons as her sharing it with a lawyer. The point is hundreds of thousands of people could end up seeing this and you want her to say
>those edgy jokes i made yeah i said that faggots what you gonna do? I also like little boys
Its just a really bad idea. You 4chan fuckers will change your opinion based off a single instance of them not being "based" Mari apologized. Pippa apologized, Nyanners apologized. You will never have a queen.

>>48846448
This is less because of the ideological or religious basis, and more because the decline of religion coincided with population growth and industrialization, which is was allowed killing on a much larger scale possible.

Basically it's physically harder to kill a lot of people when there are only a few millions of them on your entire continent, you have no effecient centralized government, police or army, and your only way of killing people is stabbing them with a pointy thing.

>>48832719
Have you never heard of mental illness before? I can tell you from first hand experience that its as debilitating as a physical illness.
And no this isn't some shounen where willpower and guts alone can make you overcome all adversity. Maybe that's true for some people, but it's the exception rather than the rule.
The solution is unironically meds and a little bit of empathy, which can bring people back from the brink. Something that social darwinist retards who claim to have empathy, like you, will never understand.

>>48848397
>Shotacon isn't illegal
Tell that to the leafbros that struggle to get loli onaholes or R18 loli/shota doujins past Canadian customs

>>48848831
>pippa
Had me in the first half.

>>48849112
Thats actually most porn in customs, in general, worked in an airport.
Also, possession or creation is never prosecuted in canada because even the police knows its a waste of time. Go ahead and look. They can only tack it on at best.

>>48849112
>>48849362
What the fuck does leaf law have to do with anything?

>>48849362
Is that true? I thought leafbros were super banned from cunny

>>48849811
This is true
t. has bought lolicon shit at cons in canada before.

>>48831820
Could you develop self-awareness and remember where you are? Please? Maybe then you can understand how midwitted your post is.

>>48849362
>>48849811
From what I gather, it's banned in the sense that, if you commit another crime, they'll tack that shit on to your list, even if it's unrelated. They won't go out and track people down for it and try to prosecute, since it's a waste of time and man power.

I honestly don't understand why Finana and the rest thought it would be a good idea throwing Zaion under the bus and say she was gaslighting them. It looks she just asked them for help when she needed some support about the genshin stuff.

>>48848831
thank fucking god you acknowledged its not a legal document because i wouldnt have had a picture to truly depict how hard i'd be laughing at you if you thought it was
anyways the biggest problem here is less that being a shotacon is based and more on the fact that this is a personal thing. making a fake apology thats such an easily disprovable one to the masses who'll hunt you down for it is what we in the business call fucking retarded. not a single person would have ever come out of any statement of hers believing she's not into boys and lolis so there was no reason to bring it up in any capacity except to paint a bigger target on her back

>>48828320
>literally nowhere in the message /vt/ is mentioned
Lmao keep dreaming retard.

>>48850443
pretty simple anycolour care more about making money then about professionalism(see sayu's google doc)

>>48850698
>finana
>making money
AHAHAHAHAHA

>48850662
not even worth a reply

>>48850245
Its like that in most countries where its illegal too.
Imagine being the prosecution and having your whole case rest in proving a drawing is a minor. Like, what can you even use? With fictional characters have no documents stating objective age, consent can never be declared, you have to take the ambiguity of stylization into account, then justify creative censorship and you're also dragging foreign culture matters into the shitpile.
Wouid be messy.

>>48828100
What are the odds that this little stunt is going to get the Ragtag archive C&D'd by Anycolor?

>>48844038
New managers are a thing in every company, even ones with a personality-manager like 774. Every Nanashi was different and all but two of them were barely month-old hires, if that. Pretty much the only companys that don't do this are super small companies. The senior manager thing is weird but it makes a degree of sense, even though I know it was some dinosauric nip.

>>48851036
100%.

>>48843457
Out of all the things being said, all the theories and rrats, this makes the most sense to me.
They fired her for insubordination.
She didn't break any rule in particular, but she kept defying them, contradicting them, attempting to change their minds, standing up and voicing her opinion on how they did things and attempting to change what she was allowed to do.
That seems to have ticked them off.

>>48841806
Funny how this sounds so similar to what Hololive would do too.
Big corpo really is a fucking monkey paw.

>>48846448
No shit it'll be less if you count it against three very generalized motivations. Still, if you count everything from Aztec human sacrifices to the crusades to ISIS, religion sure did kill a lot of people.

>>48840186
>They genuinely think they're "good" for enforcing society's will. And that's a problem, because they are always going to push towards whatever the next extreme societal dogma is in order to satisfy they're repressed shame.
Oh that sounds familiar