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AIEEEEE DONT SAY DEE'S NUTS!!!! SUPENSION! SUSPENSION! SUSPENSIOOOONNN!!!

>> No.48822432

Riku kneels to Dee

>> No.48822609

>>48822134
how thin-skinned are Nijisanji? fired for deez nuts.

>> No.48822611

>>48822134
Man, this screenshot makes me nostalgic. I hope Sayu gets well enough to stream again.

>> No.48822690

>>48822134
Justice for Zaion

>> No.48822736
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>>48822134
>Anycolor all but confirmed to be a black company
How do nijifags recover from this?

>> No.48822781

>>48822134
Ok now without crying defend the 12 other things she got in trouble for

>> No.48822824
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>>48822134

>> No.48822952

>company called any color
>only color they are is black

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>>48822781
Defend this, sister.

>> No.48823248

>>48822134
nijisanji is just pathetic, they pulled the bighest bullshit just to make the list longer to further slander her. ill kill them

>> No.48823496

>>48822609
They have a rainbow in their logo, they HAVETO be thin skinned to be on brand. It make them shit but it is what it is.

>> No.48824475

>>48822134
wild

>> No.48824544

>>48822781
So true sister. #cutforhex

>> No.48824555

>>48822781
Intern-kun did you even read the document

>> No.48824679

>>48822781
now without crying defend deez nuts, faggot

>> No.48824683

>Deez Nuts become funnier again and with a new context to it.
Zaion was la creativdad all along.

>> No.48824773

>>48823085
YOU CANNOT POST THIS SIR DELETE IT NOW

>> No.48824935

>>48822134
Reading this shit is so sad because its just Zaion getting fucked by Nijisanji over and over and over

>> No.48824974

>>48824683
A corporation embarrassing itself always makes for a good replacement battery for memes.

>> No.48825041

>>48822134
>it wasn't even Raid Shadow Legends, it was a fucking deez nuts joke
Man, imagine ever wanting to work in Niji.

>> No.48825055

>>48822134
NOOOOOOOOO IM ALLERGIC

>> No.48825128

>>48822781
There is no defending the other things. There is no defending how management pretty much suspended her on her first FUCKING debut week, just for the crime of DMing another manager about problems she had going on.
At least all it does is confirm that "breaks" are pretty much stealth suspensions half the time.

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>>48822781

>> No.48825147

>>48822134
Now let a Holo liver do the same.

>> No.48825202

You know her managers just targeted zaion for this jokes, beucase someone like elira used to say deez nuts jokes all the time

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>>48825147
>liver

>> No.48825306

>>48825147
Sister..., they have a treerat doing a whole month of deez nuts jokes

>> No.48825409

>>48825147
Didn't risu spent like an entire month making deez nuts jokes

>> No.48825459

>>48825147
A quick search of Ayunda Risu might help.

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>>48822134
jesus fucking christ this is actually pathetic

>> No.48825485

>>48825147
The difference faggots is that they do fuck up a lot too, when they fucking debut because of how inexperienced they are and you know what happen? management try to help and guide them instead of ruining them, even if there is a lot of fuck up in EN's management at least this shit isn't a thing
dumb fucking cunt

>> No.48825484

>>48825202
The entire list of reasons she was fired is bullshit. Someone already compiled a list of every EN member doing things she was fired for. It's clear they fired her because she didn't suck the clique's cocks.

>> No.48825489

>>48825147
non stop nutvember...

>> No.48825541

>>48822736
They recovered from getting cucked every month or so, and having the worst girls in the industry as their oshis, so my bet is they'll be just fine.

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>>48825147
Congratulations, you just played yourself by using that argument.

>> No.48825603

>zaion gets thrown to the dogs
>"w-well the bitch deserved it, she just did SO MANY bad things, it wasnt for a joke!" (it was 2 jokes)
>Gundou gets thrown to the dogs
>"W-well the bitch deserved it, she's always causing problems too!"

jesus imagine having to cater to nijifags knowing they'll support the black company all the way and turn on you the second the company tells them to. Horrible company, horrible "fans"

>> No.48825772

>>48825137
>was still active on his twitter making horny jokes.

>> No.48825775

>>48825147
https://youtu.be/VxnwBm49egM?t=1501
watch a better company nijinog you are welcome to leave your mistakes behind

>> No.48825840

>>48824935
That sums up my feelings pretty damn good

>> No.48825875

>>48825775
Holo had every member throwing Rushia under a bus

>> No.48825898

>>48825775
I don't watch a company I watch vtubers.

>> No.48825931

>>48825875
>Holo had every member throwing Rushia under a bus
We still are going after this?

>> No.48825970

>>48825875
Rushia has the dramatuber she contacted throw her under the bus and saying that he wouldn't touch the shit she leaked with a 12 foot pole.
That's how you know it was justified.

>> No.48825975

>>48822781
Defend her for what? For exposing Nijisanji as a Black Company? Just because Zaion is a retard that doesn’t absolve the revealed shitty stuff Nijisanji does inter-kun.

>> No.48825981

>niji being a black company israel
holy shit

>> No.48826088

>>48825875
>Holo had every member throwing Rushia under a bus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YpUKcZ24os
unlike nijisanji people still mention Rushia and is not a taboo in Hololive where is your "throw under the bus" there nijinog?

>> No.48826111

>>48825147
Your literal years late coma-chama
https://youtu.be/C84AP-iagqw

>> No.48826173

Is Idol corp is the most above the board Vtuber group?

>> No.48826190

>>48826088
>nijinog?
why do I have to be a 'nijinog'? Why can't I dislike both companies?

>> No.48826255

>>48826190
You sure as shit ain't showing it nijinog

>> No.48826312

>>48823085
SIR DELETE THIS SIR

>> No.48826350

nijisanji is truly retarded

>> No.48826395

>>48825147
good morning maam

>> No.48826410

>>48822781
feel like Zaion confirming nijiEN was lying about Hogwarts Legacy is pretty defensible lol

>> No.48826445

>>48822781
Defend DEEZ NUTZ

>> No.48826449

>>48822134
Riku was reminded he doesn't have one

>> No.48826499

>>48826190
Nijinog

>> No.48826503

>>48826190
He was giving you the benefit of the doubt, thinking you were tunnel visioned due to console wars
Opening your mouth to say you dont have any bias means you're fucking clueless and retarded instead

>> No.48826523

>>48822781
Zaion confirming that nijiEN was lying about wizard game streaming isn't defensible? :^)

>> No.48826541

>>48822134
suspend!
suspend what?
suspend dee's nutsssss

>> No.48826580

>>48826190
Hahaha nice deflection nijifag

>> No.48826591

>>48825147
Ayunda Risu is right there, idiot

>> No.48826611

She's going to get her ass sued for leaking DMs and sensitive information. She's fucked.

>> No.48826624
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>> No.48826687

Just so you know Dee’s Nuts is actual brand. They have a website and appeared with a superbowl commercial. That’s a company with 8 figure revenue maybe 9 which would mean they could crush nijizhang

>> No.48826722

>>48825484
after reading that it wasn't so much the clique but rather managements cock she wasn't sucking, the clique are just managements strongest yes men

>> No.48826727

>>48826173
Yes. Jews look out for their own.

>> No.48826738

>>48826611
really, they are better off just trying to sweep this under the rug and ignoring it, I feel like doing that will only make things worse
then again they clearly have terrible decision making so maybe they will

>> No.48826823

>>48822736
they have very low standards don’t worry. they’ll be fine after a weekend of non stop hardwork defending their oshi

>> No.48826889

>>48822736
they don't have to because nijifags are the vtuber equivalent of ironic anime fans

>> No.48826909

>>48826727
And anyone who would make them money Anon

>> No.48826920

>>48822781
NTA but i’m having fun seeing you people getting desperate on defending your black company who seems to be your oshi also.

>> No.48827220

>>48822134
this cant be real

>> No.48827266

lmao nijiasanji needed to "protect their brand", yeah their brand is "Fucking evil black company full of cunts"

>> No.48827344

>>48825875
Literal bot post.

>> No.48827438

>>48822134
Source? More?

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>>48826687
wrong company...

>> No.48827625

>>48826190
so you're a fence-sitting retard

>> No.48827638

>>48826611
I'd like to see Anykara try and somehow take Zaion to American court with this, because the company would have a hell of an uphill battle getting any judge to take it seriously given their business as a streamer company.

>> No.48827637

nijitrannies, our response?

>> No.48827693

>>48827438
https://twitter.com/SayuOkami/status/1654681572564402176?s=20

>> No.48827772

>>48827693
Thanks.

>> No.48827788

>>48826611
Anycolor can't even take down two drama vtubers let alone handling a NDA

>> No.48827851

I'll gladly watch her when she starts streaming again if she doesn't only play Genshin. Don't know how that game ruined a generation of weeb women.

>> No.48827865

>>48826611
God I hope they sue so they got opened up for discovery. Just imagine the shit they are hiding.

>> No.48827923

>>48827638
Are you stupid? If you signed an NDA and leaked private materials you are going to get ass blasted regardless of what those materials are. A judge isn't going to care if it was a streaming business, a bakery or a secret card game cabal. NDAs are legally binding.

>> No.48827964

Okay, but why doesn't she just play genshit and make money like usual like i don't fucking get it what's the problem lol

>> No.48828060

>>48827964
>moving the goalpost again
nijinogs your scripts are retarded and too obvious at this point

>> No.48828063

Holy fucking shit, Nijisanji. You're just one massive joke!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEx3tnjnvcw

>> No.48828069

I don't really care about her situation specifically, but i enjoy getting this behind-the-scenes look into the industry. If you think about it, we know very little about how corporate vtubing works, its a very new industry and the very nature of it also demands a level of secrecy around the talents. I hope one day, maybe many years from now, we can get interviews with the Hololive girls where they share how the day-to-day routine is, what kind of protocols they employ to protect their identities, how they refer to other members IRL, stuff like that. I think it would make for a cool journalistic piece.

>> No.48828090

>>48827923
It would be funny if Anycolor forgot to get Zaion to sign NDA due to how piss poor their management is. They can't even take down two drama vtubers for fuck sake.

>> No.48828105

>>48827923
She could have very well sued anycolor with this because they straight up slandered her, but they're japanese and she's an us citizen, neither can do shit to each other legally

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I feel lulu went thru the same kinda treatment, officially she just quit because Niji wouldn't do anything about her doxxing but then she just went on being indie with no issue.

>> No.48828184

>>48828069
Forgot to add, the part that i found the most surprising about this document was that they write their own lore. I wonder if this was the case for all of NijiEN, or if the first gens had corporate do it. For example, Vox's lore is really elaborate and his debut stream looked really nice, so it makes me wonder if he wrote it and paid for it

>> No.48828229

>>48828105
Buddy, you realize that any documents she signed in the US is legally binding in the US, yeah? They can sue her for breach of NDA, and she could sue them for 'slander' (but good fucking luck she was not personally slandered and you'd have to be a retard to think that).

>> No.48828243

>>48828177
Sort of except they didn't assassinate her character

>> No.48828246

>>48823085
SIR PLEASE TAKE DOWN PICTURE

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I honestly want to see nijiniggers defend this.

>> No.48828297

>>48823085
AIIIIIEEEEEEEE PLEASE DELETE THIS OUR LORD CAN GET IN TROUBLE!!!!!

>> No.48828371

>>48822134
Read the whole thing. Niji is an indefensible black company ruled by nepotism.

>> No.48828379

>>48828272
>oftentimes suspensions would be disguised as "breaks" by the talents
top kek

>> No.48828410

>>48827964
>"it's ok to use your genshit account just blur the name"
>does that
>"Sorry but you're account puts other livers on risk because friend list and because you're getting gifts and ingame rewards (?) private your VOD"
>talk about it in front of other talents
>"We don't want you to use your account because you were sponsored by genshin before"
>explanation has nothing to do with what they said before, still wrong, not sponsored anymore and it's not paid sponsorship anyways.
>other talents have been using their PL accounts as well, it's ok for them.
>other niji talents have been sponsored, it's ok for them, not for her.
>She explains all this
>"p-people will recognize your a-account"
>the only thing that makes her account recognizable is the id which she blurred.
>still refuse to let her use her account.

Imagine being the only person in your gen forced to abandon your gacha account, the one you used for more than 2 years and probably invested tens of thousands of dollar in. All because of a whim.

>> No.48828417

>>48828184
Probably just depends on how much the company wants to invest. if it's just pump and dump or not.

>> No.48828418

>>48828229
You're arguing as if you know what's in the NDA and as if Sayu doesn't know what was in it. Everything she leaked was leaked by another niji at some point. Finana is still employed and she has leaked about the same shit.

>> No.48828423

>>48828272
>can you really come to a serious decision within that time?
Her manager either fucking hated her or was legitimately insane.

>> No.48828429

>>48828272
>suspend you
>also tell you to lie about why
lmao

>> No.48828433

>>48828229
She has worded her manefesto quite carefully and I would assume it dodges anything explicitly mentioned by the NDA.

>> No.48828482

>>48828423
It's a woman so probably both.

>> No.48828496

>>48828229
>slander
It not slander because it not spoken meaning it libel

>> No.48828518

every single person defending niji is a pronouns/trans/pride flag in bio

>> No.48828546

>>48828410
>do what i say because X!
>but x is not true
>do it anyway!
Is this some jap society bullshit because it's moronic

>> No.48828559

>>48827923
See that's the thing, from what I'm seeing online, NDAs do have some different laws across states. And while there are cases where NDAs are indeed enforcable, there seem to be situations where it can be thrown out of court like
>Information is already in the public eye
>Information mentioned in the NDA is too abstract/vague
>NDA is based on a generic template on the internet, therefore most courts wont bother with it

Considering Nijisanji has been running their company very poorly, I really dont see it going far in their favor.

>> No.48828573

>>48828410
but i'm talking about right now, why the fuck is everything a fucking debate to you guys, there's no fucking agenda this is 4chan ffs

>> No.48828623

>>48828410
this part right here puts me off from ever fucking thinking of applying to a corpo if i had the slightest smidge of interest in being a vtuber

>> No.48828659

>>48828418
Yes because Sayu is a retard and has done retarded things multiple times in a row. Such as writing this whole document. I highly doubt she's smart enough to have had a lawyer look over her NDA and her non-disparagement agreements. And everything here would easily violate any non-disparagement agreement, and most likely any NDA.

>>48828559
None of what she wrote falls under the three you've mentioned, and she's writing explicitly to defend Zaion (the character/performer).

>> No.48828666

>>48828177
Except we know it's the exact opposite. She didn't want them to make her take breaks because of the doxing and other stuff, she wanted to keep streaming as normal. They were being too overprotective to her liking.

>> No.48828671

>>48828423
>barely debut
>make a small "mistake"
>you're suspended, think if you want to get the fuck out in the time
Where the fuck did they hire the manager from

>> No.48828693

>>48828659
ok kyo now sue her if you can

>> No.48828714

>>48828184
Wait, so does this mean #cutforhex therapist who takes other's pain into himself was written by the livestreamer and not Nijisanji?
This raises more red flags

>> No.48828723

Copium prices skyrocket as nijinigs but out supplies

>> No.48828736

>>48828410
i'm sure there isn't anyone in nijien who plays a lot of genshin and was afraid that someone with a much more intense account would one up them

>> No.48828743

>>48828623
Because it's a 2year old account, probably full of legacy shit and rare that must have costed her thousands of dollars to get. If she starts from 0 it means she will lose all that and would need to grind in two accounts at the same time if she wants to keep her old account up to relevant content.

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YOU DM A MANAGER? DING DONG BANNU

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SUCK MY NUTS NIJISISSY
BWHAAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.48828810

>>48828659
You're writing a bunch of assumptions while there is a clear fact that other talents have leaked the exact same shit before, which means they can't get in legal trouble for it

>> No.48828817

>>48822134
It was a bunch of strawmans to justify kicking her out, it was porb just elira or enna maybe both did not like her and just wanted her out. Why is niji en like this?

>> No.48828830

>nijichink
>nijitranny
>nijinig
>nijinormalfag
NijisanjiEN is such a travesty and I feel bad to the JPs trapped in that company. Nijisanji will be the next company to implode like upd8 or .LIVE

>> No.48828831

>>48828659
>Anycolor exposed as black company
>retard gets hit with the legal retard hammer
Win win situation

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Nijisanji is black company confirmed.

>> No.48828849

>>48828518
That explains all the horrible midwit legal takes. Genderfaggots love to think they know more about the law than they do.

>> No.48828852

>>48828105
But what if she didn't sign any NDA? Looking at how badly managed NijiEN is I won't be surprised.

>> No.48828869

>>48828659
You're a retard if you think you can use an NDA to silence someone complaining about mistreatment in the workplace, courts take a massively negative view of companies doing that

>> No.48828870

>>48828743
meant for
>>48828573

>> No.48828877

>>48828671
Ironically one of the best talent manager they had was in the indonesian branch and they canned them.lmao

>> No.48828895

>>48828418
The whole third person aspect of it seems like she's just copied and pasted a legal document her lawyer wrote up. Especially since the document itself says that things were omitted for legal reasons. So everything that is being shared has probably been cleared by her lawyer--potentially even Anycolor itself to avoid her suing them on some other grounds.

>> No.48828918

Again

how do you fuck up this badly?

>> No.48828933

>>48828423
That dawg definitely watched too much Succession

>> No.48828951

>>48828518
I apologize for my people. They know not what they do.

>> No.48828952

>>48828671
Probably some gutter of their twitter fanbase.

>> No.48828957

holo brehs this wouldn't have happened if she debuts is hololive because cannot play genshin checkmate nijiniggers

>> No.48828974

I genuinely used to like following nijien before this shit but I honestly cannot look at any of those fuckheads that just HAD to talk shit after she left and not see some corpo bootlicker using that as an in for the big cliques/special management attention. Fuck everyone except Pomu and Petra, and maybe Scarle she's too dumb for that malicious shit

>> No.48828984

>>48828797
how dare that gaijin question my authority

>> No.48829000

>>48828671
Bro their manager is a two week old hire.

>> No.48829011

>>48828957
Would Holofags even want her

>> No.48829025

>>48828810
What do you think you get defacto legal immunity because someone else did it and got away with it? How fucking retarded are you? It's obviously going to depend on how badly the company wants to pursue action and how much you're disparaging them. If someone that left X Corpo after a year because they were too strict and say so on their indie account the corpo probably isn't gonna care. But if you're a shitstirrer and continue to stir shit afterwards then they're more likely to pursue legal options.

Even in the most inept of company they're going to hire well paid lawyers to deal with shit like this and see how much trouble it's worth.

>> No.48829028

>>48828714
Merryweather made their lore, didn't he?

>> No.48829085

>>48828974
Did Selen do that too??

>> No.48829086

>>48828797
Is sad but this type of stuff happens, people get butthurt thinking you are trying to be smart and find a loop hole in their decision or don't respect them, is a huge ego problem in any workplace

>> No.48829114

>>48829011
what do you mean, u could literally slap hololive on any female streamer and suddenly they're considered good
just look at this board

>> No.48829115

>>48826611
I would love to see a lawsuit in the American court system. They would have a field day with Niji during discovery only for the Judge to then dismiss their case after exposing everything. American courts hate it when companies use the judicial system to bully individuals - especially individuals that did not profit off of the company and are speaking the truth despite an NDA.

>> No.48829144

>>48827923
Fuck NDAs. People should violate them anyway, corpos deserve to be ruined by having their dirty laumdry spilled.

>> No.48829152

>>48829085
yea selen talked shit
finana also claimed to be gaslit when zaion confided in her

>> No.48829191

>>48829025
In a Cali court, Niji would be reamed to death by discovery recording their faggotry into public record. Sayu has no money to take, but I hope they sue just so Niji self destructs and gives their competitors piles of inside info. Cope nijinog

>> No.48829194

>>48829000
Every manager is a 2 week old newbie at some point, not every manager fucks up that bad

>> No.48829196

>>48829085
From what I know most of the older ones didn't do I mostly trust them, but the only ones I watched who weren't new gens that took part in it were the people I mentioned

>> No.48829235

>>48829114
The consensus here on Ollie, Mori, and most of the girls who interact "too much" with the males says otherwise

>> No.48829236

If Zaion has a million warriors
Then I am one of them
If Zaion has 1 warrior
Then I am that warrior
If Zaion has no warriors
Then I am dead

>> No.48829239

>>48826611
Kill yourself kyo. Her cat died and she's broke and depressed you think she cares?. Niji can't even get her to pay damages she has no money.

>> No.48829249

I hate managers that never worked in what they are managing so much

>> No.48829258

>>48828869
https://www.shacknews.com/article/81281/stardock-lawsuits-settled-after-employee-apologizes

This literally happens all the time. Take for example Brad Wardell suing former employees and forcing them to apologize as part of the settlement. Regardless of the case itself, Brad Wardell is known to be a litigious asshole that will name search himself on Twitter and elsewhere to sue people into silence.

>> No.48829259

>>48828974
>and not see some corpo bootlicker using that as an in for the big cliques/special management attention
it took you that long to realize it?

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>>48822134
So based on her twitlonger, they mutually agreed that parting ways would be the best course of action, yet they still dragged her through the dirt on her way out? For what reason? Did they really look at her asking for genuine help from her manager about how to improve and think she had malicous intent?

>> No.48829277

>>48829194
>Assigning 2-week old manager to a new gen.

>> No.48829279

>>48829236
Based my fellow Zaonist

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>>48826611
Nijifaggots will backpedal as usual

>> No.48829299

>>48828797
I'm starting to suspect they canned ID managers because EN managers thinks they are making thek looks bad

>> No.48829311

>>48829011
Holo would just tell her to stream anything else on stream and play genshin off stream on her own time or even possibly stream it on her PL as PNGtuber if she care that much about streaming it. Holo is also relatively generous on their freedom for contents compared to Niji so she can keep her edgy humor without getting punished.
However, a big draw for hiring her in niji is due to her being a Genshin streamer, which please the chink audiences. Niji wouldn't want her to stop streaming genshin but can't understand that starting over from 0 is tough for genshin.

>> No.48829348

>>48829194
Lamy’s manager… that bitch probably dead tho

>> No.48829355

>>48829152
What did Selen exactly said?

>> No.48829413

>>48828659
California has the strictest anti SLAPP laws in the whole union. She'll be fine

>> No.48829424

Every public disagreement is about who looks better coming out of the other side.
Everyone wants to be the Johnny Depp.
No one wants to be the Amber Heard.
The corporate contract is basically a way to ensure that you are going to be the Johnny Depp in any disagreement that might arise. That's why it's up to you to keep the receipts.

>> No.48829439

>>48829348
Lol no he was promoted.

>> No.48829445

The theme for the whole thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYpz3abAk98

>> No.48829449

>>48828797
Holy shit that is fucking despicable. I have a feeling the manager she DM'd was probably punished as well.

>> No.48829451

>>48828659
Of course she does so, because she mentions she was doxxed in the document. Even if this case does somehow make it to an American court of law, I'm sure they'd still have questions about how Anykara treats their talents after getting a quick run down from a defense attorney.
And since its Anykara, I doubt the NDA was written up competently enough. It bears repeating but they couldnt deal with a doxxsite let alone two Youtube drama channels. They notion that they have ANY ground to stand upon in a Californian court of law is laughable. Even if they did, they're dumb as shit and wouldn't know what to do if they were able to take Zaion down.

>>48829348
I still like to think that Lamirez is a Yakuza's daughter and managed to give her old manager a pair of concrete shoes.

>> No.48829461

>>48829191
For one, it wouldn't reach discovery. It would be settled out of court long before then. And for two even if it did, you aren't gonna get shit out of it. The nature of discovery is usually highly limited and what exactly are they going to try and uncover? The secret plot to fire someone for remarks and stuff that's very obviously public record?

And the last thing you would want is for all of the instances of her making pedophilic remarks to be entered into the court record and tied to her actual real life name. That's a good way to ensure you will never have a career again when people look up who you are.

>> No.48829489

>>48829258
>Posts an article where the american abused the american system and sued for something completely unrelated which was in his favour
Ok then you have to make up a reason for Niji to sue her that isn't NDA

>> No.48829564

>>48828736
Stop gaslighting me.

>> No.48829608

>>48828797
Can you post a link to the full thing

>> No.48829644

>>48829286
so how's the nijisanji lawsuit doing falsenigger?

>> No.48829703

>>48827865
lol this

>> No.48829730

>>48828957
If she couldn't play Genshin, wouldn't she just never join?

>> No.48829744

>>48827923
NDAs are legally enforceable but Judges make decisions on a case-by-case basis - especially if an NDA is extremely one-sided (irrational or oppressive). The American court system very much dislikes companies using the judicial system to bully/harass individuals. Zaion worked for a tech company before so I don't think she's that stupid to make this statement without legal consultation. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of precedent for cases around irrational/oppressive NDAs. And her legal team may believe they have the upper-hand.

>> No.48829763

PARASOCIAL FRICKS

>> No.48829764

>>48828797
This is by far the most screwed up part of this thing. Imagine reaching out for help, revealing your fears and insecurities to another person in hopes of becoming better, and then getting PUNISHED for it.

>> No.48829779

damn, every niji member that dunked on her is a complete piece of shit even more than I originally thought, fuck those cunts

>> No.48829800

>>48826611
Anon that would be a separate thing to suing for libel, which honestly given how juries side with the little guy 99% of the time nowadays she would win.

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>> No.48829855

I really cannot wait until depressed nousagi gets ahold of this.

>> No.48829886

>>48829744
She doesn't have a 'legal team'. If she had a legal team, they would've told her to shut the fuck up, not write a shitty document about the issues she faced and go to court first if she had an actual case. You don't air out your legal documents on Twitter first.

>> No.48829921

>>48828974
Wasn't Ren the only one who defended Zaion?

>> No.48829922

>>48829855
How will he ever reconcille this with his avowed corpofaggotry?

>> No.48829930

>>48829852
Look at these boot lickers, lmao

>> No.48829933

>>48822134
>bite the hand that feeds you
>act surprised when the hand no longer feeds you

>> No.48829949

>>48829461
I hope they do sue so I can watch you cry afterwards

>> No.48829974

>>48829644
Riku took L and now will take dramatuber cock right up in his ass
https://twitter.com/Khyomaru/status/1654690114277081089

>> No.48829994

>>48829886
She can't go to court because she would have to sue in a japanese court where she would lose. But it's the same situation for anycolor, she has nothing to lose by posting this

>> No.48830011

>>48828272
What the literal fuck is this? This manager like wanted to bully her out wtf. "Can I stream" -> "Not until you can decide if you want to stream" literally what in the fucking hell.

>> No.48830029

>>48828797
>the good old 'i have depression' card
really?

>> No.48830065

>>48828272
thats so fucking bad. fuck that manager

>> No.48830087

>>48830029
You would have depression if you were in niji as well

>> No.48830143

>>48829644
it ain't doing.
Niji wasn't willing to back up their copyright claims, so Youtube dropped it.

>> No.48830146

>>48829933
Feeds you with what? Exposure? lol

>> No.48830150

>>48829886
Are you retarded? Why would she want to do the first move? By waiting until they file their shit, she gets to slap their shit. Corporations don't have it easy in 'murrica when it comes to defamation, and that's their only angle.

>> No.48830164

>>48830029
>The gold ol victim blaming
Really?

>> No.48830179

>>48829852
Thank God I will never interact with girls who watch Nijisanji. Literally, I will ask every prospective mate first thing and if they do not watch Holo or a select few small corpos, then I run.

>> No.48830180

All this does in my eyes is prove that she was indeed a troublemaker and they were justified in firing. Now she's looking to get into legal trouble with them. Full retard.

>> No.48830198

>>48822781
Careful, wouldn't want a baseball thrown at your head now, would we?

>> No.48830221

>>48829949
Why would I cry? I have no investment in either her or Nijisanji's retarded management. It's just funny when a dipshit does an incredibly stupid thing that tanks their career and people cheer them on.

>>48829994
She would not have to sue in a Japanese court. Her contracts would be based in the US and she would likely be employed under a US subsidiary. Why are all of you retards thinking contract law is somehow purely sovereign? Like do you think all the people Nintendo sued for piracy are somehow legally immune because Nintendo is based in Japan?

>> No.48830223

Genuinely, what did Niji hope to gain with that statement on firing her? Even if you assume Sayu is lying about literally every single point, they gained absolutely nothing with refusing to let her graduate peacefully. People would have likely ran with the assumption that it was over the rape joke and dunked on them for being woke, yeah, but that would have been so much more quiet and short lived than the whole "1001 Reasons We Hate Zaion" shit and now this. Did they expect her to just not say anything in retaliation after all that?

>> No.48830248

>>48830180
Chink detected

>> No.48830302

>>48830164
zaion will not fuck you
>victim
of what? being retarded? maybe

>> No.48830332

>>48830180
Don't choke on that boot you are deep throating anon.

>> No.48830349

>>48830150
Holy fuck you are one of the dumbest motherfuckers around. Court law isn't Phoenix Wright or whatever dumb shit you're high off of. They wouldn't sue her for defamation they'd sue for violating something like a non-disparagement agreement which her document would easily violate. If she wanted to make the first move and argue that she was illegally fired for harassment, racism etc then that would've been the first move. Not dumping a drama document for Twitter clout.

>> No.48830357

>>48828177
No. She filed a stalking complaint with the assistance of the company.

>> No.48830360

>>48830223
From what I'm understanding Niji is a mess so it was probably done out of spite by her manager and no one else sat this through

>> No.48830361

>>48830221
She would be suing for libel retard, it has nothing to do with her contract and it would have to be taken to a japanese court

>> No.48830406

>>48830029
She was fresh off getting cucked and divorced by her ex-husband, so I'd believe it.

>> No.48830413

>>48830029
you literally post on 4chan, a dwelling for the autistic, depressed, mentally retarded and SEA
also being a depressed and mentally ill is an unspoken requirement to be a vtuber, no one wants to watch a normie

>> No.48830438

>>48830349
Have you read the NDA document? How do you know she's actually violated any of it? She's responding to things they brought up and said about her.

>> No.48830441

>>48830223
>This could be you

>> No.48830444

>>48827693
The uno thing is so fucked.

So in nijisanji you literally cannot say any bad thing about anything you play period? What the fuck is wrong with jap companies.

>> No.48830453

>>48830406
My poor cuckqueen (dead) cat lady hag....

>> No.48830461

>>48828659
The fact that Niji already made a public statement about why she was kicked out means they can not claim confidentiality applies to this topic even if the NDA explicitly states that the topic is confidential. You can't publically slander a past employee and then try to use the NDA to prevent them from responding to the allegations. If Niji wanted to keep it confidential they had that option, they chose not to.

>> No.48830485

>>48829852
>Nousagi hopping onto this
Welp. If he manages to milk this the right way he might legit save his career.

>> No.48830489

>>48830349
>which her document would easily violate.
Anons in this thread somehow know more than the person who read her contract and the lawyer who helped her make this document, really interesting I dare say

>> No.48830535

>>48830223
This does seem to be one of the strangest things considering all of the secret suspensions used to protect the company image.

>> No.48830536

>>48830349
>holy fuck you are so dumb!!
>makes up a load of shit
kill yourself twitter faggot

>> No.48830552

>>48830223
Think they wanted to send a message to their existing talent. Wasn't this after the whole "covid" thing? I don't think it's happy sailing behind the scenes and they wanted to show that if you try and leave that they will dump everything you've done wrong into the public.

>> No.48830569

>>48830361
How exactly would you sue them for libel? Who are they libeling? They did not mention her, or her past accounts or who she is. She could've literally activated her old account and pretended nothing happened, or started a new account and none of it would carry forward.

I didn't even know what her other account was until this document was posted.

>> No.48830611

>>48829852
Man, female fans are incredibly stupid and you can see it in /nijiEN/ on a daily basis

>> No.48830621

>>48829933
They didn't feed her. They basically told her to fuck off and feed herself.

>> No.48830633

>>48829974
>>48830143
I guess Riku need his slave money and cant afford a lawsuit. congrats fellow dramaniggers

>> No.48830647

>>48830438
She leaked DMs like Rushia. And no putting a shitty mspaint 'censor' doesn't make it better.

>> No.48830654

>>48822781
Read the doc
Almost everything Niji slapped her with was bullshit and they scrubbed the record of their own incompetence leading to half of it

>> No.48830661

>>48830302
>zaion will not fuck you
Good
>Victim of what? being retarded? maybe
The only one retarded here is you

>> No.48830731

>>48830029
Didn't notyugo have a depression while in niji and he said he been doing well after quiting.

>> No.48830743

>>48827693
Dude what the fuck is wrong with japs

>> No.48830751

>>48830654
sorry anon. sisters have a small brain capacity which is why they cannot read.

>> No.48830760

>>48830569
You can't pull that card anon, vtubers brand is the same as irl person brand according to japanese law, which by the way was forced by fucking Nijisanji themselves, so therefore Anycolor was explicitly slandering Zaion fully knowing it was also slandering her roommate

>> No.48830763

>>48830349
stupid tranny, the statement nijisanji put out would nullify any non-disparagement agreement, those agreements are between both parties so niji would have violated it first you drooling moron

>> No.48830814

>>48830485
His "career" has never been in any kind of danger

>> No.48830829

>>48830349
NDA is still a retarded move because they would need to show proof that the shit she's alleging to is really something that happened, even if the court protected the documents from outsiders. That's just raking themselves over the coals, and literally giving her proof to file against them in an eventual countersuit if need to. Other than that, she just gets to sit on her ass and eventually file for bankruptcy.
She doesn't need to file anything to fuck with them while still looking like an innocent flower to people online, and that's exactly what she needs to keep her vtuber career going.

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>>48829852
Man I just wanted to follow lazulight in the beginning because I thought they were cute. When did we attract these psychos into the fanbase?

>> No.48830896

>>48827693
Shit like this is why the japanese economy is stagnant.

>> No.48830902

>>48830552
Ah intimidation, definitely not something a black company does.

>> No.48830901

>>48823085
AAAAAAAAAA TAKE DOWN THISAAA

>> No.48830908

>anons arguing like they are legal experts or have read any of the contracts
why

>> No.48830917

>>48830763
You're one dumb motherfucker that has never even read a non-disparagement agreement.

>>48830760
According to whomst? Where is this legal ruling you're referring to? And how exactly does it apply to Zaion who would've signed a case with an American subsidiary of Nijisanji?

>> No.48830929

If you still watch any Niji after all this shitshow you're literally retarded
The jews were the good guys after all

>> No.48830966

What the fuck was she thinking? Breaking an NDA like this means she'll get sued into bankruptcy.

>> No.48830978

>>48830929
in a jew vs zhang fight the best thing a white man can do is watch and laugh

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>>48830829
>Other than that, she just gets to sit on her ass and eventually file for bankruptcy
You people can't be real. Think about what you just wrote for a second.

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>>48830865
Yeah this is really fucking grim.
>>48830896
It's stagnant because they refuse to incorporate versioning and decentralized repositories into their work flow. Means they're constantly behind in terms of software development and have to coast exclusively on hardware.

>> No.48831018

>>48830966
she's broke and her cat just died, I don't think she cares dude

>> No.48831025

>>48830865
you know the answer to that question

>> No.48831042

>>48830865
I want to kick Finana's teeth in.

>> No.48831062

>>48830996
An entire nation built upon csv files, and only csv files.

>> No.48831065

>>48830360
I considered spite being a factor, but something would have had to cause it to get to that degree. I wonder if it's something like Zaion's pile of nothingburger yabs got her manager chewed out by their manager who got chewed out by their manager etc. up the chain to that goblin running the show. It's either something like that, or she called someone a niggerfaggot during a meeting.
>>48830552
I don't think that lines up considering almost every other talent actively participated in throwing her under the bus.

>> No.48831075

>>48830917
>According to whomst? Where is this legal ruling you're referring to?
Are you pretending to be retarded? This has been a law since last year
>And how exactly does it apply to Zaion who would've signed a case with an American subsidiary of Nijisanji?
"Source, I made it the fuck up"

>> No.48831089

>>48828184
HoloID also need to write their own lore. Gen 1 especially have 2 non-vtubers joining so their base lore is just what they really were irl. Only Risu have some sort of lore.

Most likely that management have some sort of skeleton of a lore (elemental, superheroes, etc), but members are allowed to modify the lore to suit their own needs and so they can role play better.

>> No.48831096

>>48829852
Bannedvtmemes is a twofaced bitch confirmed

>> No.48831114

>>48830966
>bankruptcy
If she's REALLY based she'll refuse to pay the fine and go to prison for contempt of court.

>> No.48831128

>>48830966
Lolno, suing your own talent is such terrible optics, and everything would get opened for discovery and defeat the purpose of a lawsuit. What money would they hope to get out of her she already has nothing.

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She could have entirely omitted this section imo. Wrestling in the mud with people who obsess with the age of fictional characters is never a win.

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I FUCKING LOVE DEE'S NUTS. THE BEST SPONSHIP TO EVER EXIST.

>> No.48831156

>>48830865
The chinese bitches that Luxiem brought in unironically ruined NijiEN as a fandom.

>> No.48831169

>>48830966
The statement was pretty clearly written by/under the supervision of a lawyer, so I don't believe they would just casually break an enforceable NDA like that.

>> No.48831191

>>48830966
You don't know what her nda even is.

>>48831143
Yeah easier to just leave this shit out.

>> No.48831212

>>48831145
>SPONSHIP

>> No.48831210

>>48829933
>feeds you
bro, she even paid for all her debut assets herself, they fed her nothing.

>> No.48831234

>>48830731
>he

>> No.48831246

>>48831145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJmIGC0nwK0

>> No.48831252

>>48831143
Agreed. It's not mentioned in the termination notice, so it's just providing ammunition to antis.

>> No.48831251

>>48831169
Yeah I think the parts in third person definitely read like a document her lawyer wrote up and she just pasted it in there. The stuff she wrote in first person though, I'm not sure if that was vetted or if she initally tried to rewrite the whole thing in first person but gave up.

>> No.48831260

>>48830929
I still watch JP, because I'm too attached to the talents I watch... I'd love to leave completely, but I'll just have to settle for not touching EN with a 10 foot pole.

>> No.48831301

>>48831096
there's multiple people running that account, there's probably one of them who's a diehard nijinigger

>> No.48831303

>>48826173
No one knows about the internals of idol corp really it's too new. Phase is probably the most above board because they tolerate fucking anything that even when dumping yuri everyone assumes it's because of something really fucked and gives no shits.

>> No.48831317

>>48831143
I thought the same, even worse starting with it because people will read the first page and fuck off

>> No.48831331

I bet Niji won't do shit about this

If they try to litigate her, it's a case of alleged workplace mistreatment.
And in that case, the court's gonna need to crack open ALL of NijiEN (if not all of Nijisanji)'s inner workings.

>>48829286
>first video back from Japan he references another attempt from Nijisanji to "silence" him
>then bluntly declares he knows exactly how much Niji talents make from merch sales
False is on a warpath and Sayu just blew the gates wide open

>> No.48831341

>>48831128
Right, you can't even call it a deterrence action like Nintendo. At least Nintendo's goal was "to all the pirates, if you try to do like this dude your life is over". If Anycolor does it they just get, 'to all our ex-vtubers, if you badmouth us your life is over' which just further makes people think about what's so fucked up about your company that you're scared of your talents shitting on you.

>> No.48831365

>>48831143
Yeah very true. She should know as a Genshinfag how rabid twitterites get about this shit.

>> No.48831384

>>48829299

They canned the ID managers? I wonder which company will poach them.

>> No.48831403

>>48829933
>"feeds you"
>her and all her genmates were all in the red and had to pay out of pocket to meet with Nijisanji's draconic demands

>> No.48831402

>>48822781
NIGGER, THEY FUCKING GOT MAD AT HER FOR JUST TALKING TO MANAGEMENT

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>>48822781
Everything she was accused of doing other talents did. How can you expect someone to follow rules that are arbitrarily enforced when it appears that everything is fine when you look at any of the other talents.

>> No.48831432

>>48825970
Dramanigger who contacted her then made shit up, you mean

>> No.48831448

>>48828272
black company

>> No.48831463

>>48831384
Most, if not all ID staff already moved to local indonesian vtubing company

>> No.48831467

>>48831143
The most important part is clearly stating that Nijisanji did not actually care about it and it had nothing to do with her termination

>> No.48831469

will you armchair lawyer faggots stop bringing up a so-called NDA you have no knowledge about
>"S-she broke NDA she's in big trouble now sisters!!!!"
Yes I'm sure she waited 3 months to post this and completely forgot about or ignored this so-called "NDA."

>> No.48831500

>>48830989
I don't understand the problem. Literally tell me what's the worst that can happen to her if she supposedly broke an NDA. Hell, they'd need to prove damages. NDA's have time limits. There's jurisdictions. What would be the criminal charges?
And going by the proving damages or reputation, they'd need to prove how the board and her very limited speck in social media are an actual damage.

>> No.48831514

>even plebbit is turning on niji management after the cocksucking they got after tossing out zaion
it's over for nijiEN

>> No.48831517

>>48829779
I knew the fish was a piece of shit even before all this debacle.

>> No.48831550

Has anyone started looking for all the instances of a niji taking a sudden "break"?

>> No.48831552

>>48827923
Anon is completely right, NDAs have substantial limits in various jurisdictions, especially relating to harassment and retaliation.
Nijisanji has very little chance of this succeeding in US courts.

>> No.48831572

>>48830444
Japs are more retarded than americans, big surprise...

>> No.48831626

how is the nijien gen handling all of this

>> No.48831638

>>48829608
Sayu okami on blue cancer my little nigga

>> No.48831644

>>48831550
millie after her discord stream, maria after zaion's official termination

>> No.48831649

>>48829263
Probably because they felt that if they didn't their rabid fanbase would lash out at them, or one of the managers just did not like her

>> No.48831657

>>48831626
killing themselves hopefully.

>> No.48831665

>>48830731
It's she, you dumbfuck.
And yes, yugo is retarded menhera who is better off as indie.

>> No.48831670

Always knew niji was a black company

>> No.48831689

>>48828272
>suspends you
>refuses to issue a statement
>more or less asks you to lie for them
This is confirming what everyone knew, but holy fuck.

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>>48822134
not gonna lie that whole doc feels like she's going I DON'T EVEN INTERACT WITH MY OLD FRIENDS ANYMORE AIEEEEEEEE FEEL BAD FOR ME I HAVE DEPRESSION

>> No.48831692

>>48831644
>a niji manager was the one who came up with the "my dog is sick :(" story millie used right before going on break

>> No.48831697

>>48831550
Enna, Millie, Ren, Yugo was mentioned in her doc from what I remember.

>> No.48831700

>>48831626
Shouldn't some of them already know and have thrown her under the bus?

>> No.48831707

This is why no big and known company will shit on their employees when they fire them because this will lead into more future problems. Literally just take the L and let her go.

>> No.48831710

>>48831670
What about Cover? Are they also black company?

>> No.48831725

>>48827923
Anon any instance of revealing that a company mistreated you in any way gets you a free pass when it comes to nda's and juries always side with you.

NDA's and non-competes only hold up in extremely specific circumstances, and that's for things that juries understand, like stealing something tangible and selling it.

>> No.48831734

>>48827923
if that psychotically incompetent fuck even tries, the judge is going to push him face-first into a wood chipper.

>> No.48831790

>>48829886
It's called pro bono.

>>48828090
kek I'd believe it. This has actually happened many times online, I wish I remembered the names of the person it happened to so I could link it.

>> No.48831796

>>48831695
not gonna lie you're a retard who didn't read past the opening

>> No.48831818

>>48831550
Fulgur went on a medical break like a week ago iirc

>> No.48831835

>>48831710
JP is pretty much clean as far as they look, but EN is grey at best.

>> No.48831841

>>48831710
Not enough info

>> No.48831859

>>48831552
Hell if they didn't companies would just NDA all of their operations. Arguably tracking apps and 'time off task' policies like what Amazon did are more sensitive than whatever was ever leaked here because not only would it clearly damage Amazon's reputation, it gives them an edge over competitors that now the competitors know how to emulate.

>> No.48831861

>>48825875
When Zaion was fired they removed her image from an AMV she sang in and turned off coments.

Even after Rushia was fired, Marine still released a new AMV that had Rushia's image in it.

https://youtu.be/u_hUpHUTJwQ

>> No.48831864

>>48831796
i read everything, she's just a random retard i could care less about

>> No.48831872

>>48829921
Not even, he just gave a bare minimum statement that boiled down to "don't fucking harass people, you animals"

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>>48831710
keep crying nijifag. maybe next time ask Riku to hide all the evidences if you dont want to be called black company faggot.

>> No.48831904

>>48831695
>the whole doc
She literally only talks about that in the intro

>> No.48831915

>>48830966
Nijisanji didn't sign NDA with Zaion

>> No.48831939

>>48831872
Even that is miles better than nothing

>> No.48831942

Phase Connect wins again.

>> No.48831959
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>yfw you realize Gura barely streams because she's on constant rolling suspensions

>> No.48832023

>>48831697
Can you at least show or tell where/which page? Don't feel like reading all the words salad she posted.

>> No.48832043

>>48831904
in the middle too

>> No.48832045

>>48831695
>if i use a pekora picture they will never suspect a thing

>> No.48832067

>>48831710
There were stinkers in the initial stages of the company (not anymore as far as we know) and there's some fuckery going on with the managers of the EN branch (which is apparently getting resolved, they're throwing a beloved JP staff member to fix whatever the fuck they were doing wrong). Other than that, seems fine enough.

>> No.48832070

>>48831878
Fuck right off, cunt, I'm just asking simple question.

>> No.48832111

>>48831959
>Cover
>Doing stealth suspension
Even for things that we didn't have to know like Vesper's suspension they still made announcements...

>> No.48832113

i hope she gets sued that would be funny

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People always thought that the niji/holo ban was a hololive thing because holo talents weren't allowed to even be in the same voice chat with niji talents and had to pretend to leave and shit like that, but I always thought of it as nijisanji threatening to sue hololive and hololive being bullied to not talk about them, while nijisanji talents were still free to say whatever.

Shit like this makes me feel more vindicated even though I was called a schizo before.

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>>48832111
I guess she just hates her fans, then.

>> No.48832175

>>48831710
in the absence of publicly observable and incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, for each specific allegation she presents, i will assume that cover's behavior is absolutely identical. the nuclear incompetence of management is certainly not in dispute.

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>>48832070
You're deflecting, Nijiscumzhnagsisterbot and seething about Holo in every thread, assblasted faggot

>> No.48832245

>>48826611
bro she lives in cali, the blue ass, leftist state. they probably won't look at the lawsuit if they sue under american laws

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>>48832131
Well shit, might as well bring back this classic

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>>48831550
Millie taking a "break" was an obvious suspension when they did this

>> No.48832275

>>48831959
nice deflection, nijisis

>> No.48832310

>>48832113
It won't happen or it will happen only after their asses will get burned really hard. Main reason for that is that Sayu is american while Nijisanji is japanese company. Them suing her in America would be really expensive (and knowing that Nijisanji are cheapskates it would be too expensive for them) and they wouldn't have leverage like in Japan, where Riku probably has lots of good fucking lawyers.

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>>48831710
>>48832175
People have posted before when discussing cover vs anycolor revenue and spending, but nijisanji spends like half as much on their overhead as cover does when it comes to things like management.

It's no surprise that their management structure is made up of new hires, because they probably have a high turnover/attrition. Cover is probably a lot better in that respect, they just spend too much on management to be equally as bad as niji in that department.

>> No.48832348

>>48830989
You should probably google what bankruptcy means instead of assuming you already know how American financial tricks work.

>> No.48832368

Now any time a Niji takes a break everyone's going to assume they're suspended. Trust in Niji is fucking dead.

>> No.48832374

>>48831859
Yeah, most NDAs and non-competes are to prevent corporate espionage. After carefully reading through it, never does she imply that the way they treated her, applies to any other Liver.

She can certainly defend herself from being censored by claiming harassment in most states if they come in with a SLAPP lawsuit, or just use her first amendment rights if she is in Cali.

>> No.48832378

nijishitty is finished

>> No.48832430

>>48832323
sorry friend, there was not any meaningful amount of publicly observable and incontrovertible evidence to the contrary in your rambling post. they are both trash, managed by violently malicious retards.

>> No.48832432

>>48832368
>Now
Everyone knew it already, but I guess this is an "official" confirmation. Fucking black company.

>> No.48832437

>>48831818
I mean bro's fucking crippled and according to doxxsisters, he's had hiatuses going MIA for half a year and some people thought he died so we'll see if this is an actual hiatus or stealth suspension

>> No.48832468

>>48832256
Maybe they just don't want to upset their billibilli audience? Whatever the reason it's clearly a niji thing.

>> No.48832486

>>48832368
>Niji
>trust
The braindead pre-teen girl audience isn't going anywhere.

>> No.48832500

>>48830647
> And no putting a shitty mspaint 'censor' doesn't make it better.
It does actually, Rushia actually doxxed her managed and sent that info to Korekore, and he himself had to censor it before showing so that he wouldn't get in trouble.
He elaborated on this on stream later when ENfags were shitting on him.

>> No.48832545

>>48832500
Why did she do that again

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>>48831572
> Hololive still exists

>> No.48832561

>>48827923
Retardo, NDA isn't some sort of magical contract. US will not give a single flying fuck if you break it to "protect yourself" or something along these lines.

>> No.48832585

>>48825603
company shills are a fucked up breed and I thought video game company shills were horrible, fuck all of this

>> No.48832597

>>48832437
Don't think that our discount Dante is suspended. His health problem is actually really bad one, not some schizo shit. He has had legit back problems for long time.

>> No.48832671

>>48831143
>scaramouche
>thousands of years old
Surely there is no way Zaion got her shota backstory wrong.
I think that fucker's quest came out while she was still streaming.

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When will you fags learn that only english speaking companies can handle english speaking talents well.
Come home white man.

>> No.48832704

>>48832545
She a menhera, and it just a few hour after the discord noti, not even a day.

>> No.48832713

>>48831818
I'm not a fan of nijis, least of all of covid, but I feel a the vtubers health it's too much of a delicate topic to ever toy with it. Much easier to just take a "break because you're tired" or make an excuse about family/friends/etc.

>> No.48832726

>>48832682
they don't hire men and I watch men, sorry anon
guess I'm stuck with indies

>> No.48832783

drop the discord logs so i can ctrl+f my name please

>> No.48832815

>>48832726
I didn't realize there was a demographic that watched male indie vtubers.

>> No.48832844

>>48832256
well if niji is pandering to the china chinks then wtf are 3 luxiem bois doing in taiwan's meet and greet? that's some china taiwan schizo shit waiting to happen

>> No.48832860

>>48832815
>he doesn't groom lonely attention-hungry boys on the internet

>> No.48832887

>>48828736
Finana HATES Zaion!
No but for real I'm sure some of that was going on. Finana seems like the type to be petty and territorial like that.

>> No.48832907

>>48832815
As someone who's friends with one - those people certainly exists.

>> No.48832935

>>48832860
please groom me

>> No.48832944

>>48832860
>>48832907
Are they the cc fujo types or predatory gay male types.

>> No.48833021

>>48832944
He just plays games on-stream and then goes offline, that's it.

>> No.48833027

>>48832815
Most big content creators are males. Stands to reason that there'll be at least some people interested in male chuubas, even if they don't necessarily dominate the market.

>> No.48833082

>>48833021
>>48833027
I figured that women only really watch the popular ones. I was wondering what is the demographic that watches indie male vtubers. Are they mostly fujos or predatory gay guys in that audience.

>> No.48833111

>>48829921
>the normiest guy in Niji who debuted because his girl loves vtubers
>"Hey, stalking people is bad you know"
Who would've guessed.

>> No.48833279

>>48825578
risu is just sayu's indocousin it's true

>> No.48833333 [DELETED] 

>>48830865
never mix women in a male dominated hobby.

>> No.48833365

>>48822781
ok now without crying keep licking that corpo boot, soulless drone

>> No.48833404

>>48833082
>"or predatory gay guys in that audience"
Eh nah, none of the male chuubas you've even heard of are younger than 25 so that's kind of out desu.

>> No.48833412

>>48829852
kinda crinch bro

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>>48833333
Pents + dubs
Rare based check, also true about hobby. Most women never fit in male hobbies.

>> No.48833440

>>48833333
quints of truth '0'

>> No.48833480

>>48833404
I figured the indie male vtuber scene was full of traps and gaybaiting, since that is what tempus seems to be.

I've watched some clips of male chuubas having mental breakdowns playing like, the most basic horror games ever and they seem pretty young and faggy.

>> No.48833496

>>48830865
You can tell from the messages being in english that it was from when the company left Japan and China.

>> No.48833511

>>48832815
I watch them cause the streams can be comfy. I really tire of all the constant "lewd" jokes from indie girl chuubas and pandering shit. The one indie chuuba I found who didn't do that, all she did was whine about how you shouldn't donate and she doesn't deserve it. I got tired of it.
The boys say dumb shit and otherwise are pretty chill. It's like a regular streamer but I don't have to stare at an actual guy's face the entire time in a webcam.

>> No.48833547

>>48833511
Do you watch them on twitch or youtube streams.

>> No.48833556

>>48833333
Holy checked

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>>48832175
>vomitting buzzwords
nijiniggers deflecting as usual

>> No.48833609

>>48833547
twitch mostly, youtube it's hard to find new creators, on twitch I can just find creators via tags

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>>48825147
>Holo liver
>liver
KEK!

>> No.48833689

>>48832558
>talent freedom
>the corpo advertising this is dead
so much for that

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>>48822134

>> No.48833754

>>48829852
Nijisisters seething endlessly lmao

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>>48822736
Anon... Nijiniggers love this. They're as spiteful as you can possibly get. Nyfco is basically their home website. Which isn't even surprising, because some of the "talents" also post there and interact with their fans.
Figure that shit out.

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>>48825128
yeah Millie, totally wasn't a suspension

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NijiBots

>> No.48833881

>>48828272
holy fucking shit
now im trying to think of all the times other chubas said they are taking a break and wonder how many of those were actual suspensions that we dont even know about?

>> No.48833968

>>48829933
> feeds you
> you have to do all the debut related shit yourself
> immediately after debut you're in the red
> no fixed salary either

>> No.48834090

>>48829852
Genuinely wonder how much overlap here is with these "people", the ones bitching about that harry potter game, and the random lynch mob that formed around Shondo making a boob joke a little while ago.

>> No.48834251

>>48834090
the exact same crowd, they love pretending to be the victim to justify attacking people

>> No.48834528

>>48831872
Which is more than anyone in NijiEN did, and his apprehension to go any stronger was justified given he miraculously was on break for a month afterward as a result. Likely a stealth suspension as retribution for having sympathy for the companies black sheep's being torn apart on social media thanks to Nijisanji's fucking bogus suspension reasons.

>> No.48834575

>>48822781
I sincerely wish you eat a rotten rat asshole by gunpoint niggerbitch

>> No.48834594

>doesn't actually like shota
>doesn't stand to the edgy jokes
>muh depression
Boring

>> No.48834635

on sayu's side 110%

matter of fact i'll one up myself and say right now

to anyone who got offended at her "sexual assault" joke vehemently kill yourself. getting offended over fictional characters is one thing, but using that joke aimed at a specific character that would be considered attractive to use as fuel to defend your experiences does not work, because you're probably 10x uglier than the fucking game character, you disgusting pronouns in bio, globohomo corpo shill dick sucking fag. get a goddamn life

>> No.48834680

>>48834594
>doesn't stand to the edgy jokes
She regrets saying it on stream. Doesn't mean she wouldn't say it if she wasn't part of Niji.

>> No.48834832

>>48832023
Not a single liver was mentioned by name, except shu and alban which appear in a screenshot showing them on a list of sponsored vtubers alongside sayu. Anon is lying.

>> No.48834993

>>48834090
We'll be generous and say maybe 10% of them aren't involved in both, or at least that kind of behaviour.

>> No.48835035

>>48833881
just wait until you find out about what idol meeting means, hooboy

>> No.48835109

>>48833480
Traps and gaybating...maybe right, but, the predatory gays you're talking about?
Not just your garden-variety lower-than-average IQ e-stalkers or whatever?
The ones that actually go through with anything?

They're not looking for anything over 25 until they're at least 70, and none of the ones over 70 go anywhere public for it, so...

>> No.48835123

>>48830865
Nijisanji never stopped pandering to both chinese and twitter freaks. Did you really expected anything nice to happen?

>> No.48835225

>>48831710
the fact that they handled coco so poorly makes me think yes to some extent

>> No.48835244

>>48830865
>When did we attract these psychos into the fanbase?
Obsydia, unironically, alot of the twittersisters are dragoons

>> No.48835443

>>48834635
who the fuck cares about you right winger trumpshitter retard

>> No.48835506

>>48835443
I wish you people stayed on tumblr, the internet would be much better for it

>> No.48835525

>>48835506
not an american, have no fucking idea what tumblr even is

>> No.48835574

>>48835525
I can lie in the Internet too!

>> No.48835583

>>48835525
>you right winger trumpshitter
>not american
lol what

>> No.48835596

>>48835443
>calls anon a right winger trumpshitter retard because anon said adequately described the threat level of the rape joke

Oh god, somebody protect them from knowing who the current U.S. president is

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>>48829852
time to make some twitter alt and go JIHAD brothers

>> No.48835669

>>48822134
I mean, it's a bad joke, but hardly seems like something to fire her over.

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>>48825875
Fuck off

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