/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Surely no one will fall for lazy bait in this thread

scran

Pink love status?

Mousefags.

I really love Sex Rat

Fat bitch was waiting for a new thread this entire time

love my wolf wife
simple as

pet schizo here it takes no talent to stream merely courage luck and adaptation, its mostly luck btw or nepotism
its actually a pyramid scheme

Nyan molested me in the Vshojo HQ's showers

>>48597912
They are very nice and friendly

Pink Cat live to spill the tea

pink cat live

VSHOJO LOVE
VSHOJO UNITY
VSHOJO WILL NEVER FALL
SIMPLE AS

>>48597997
Delusional.

>>48597912
I'd feel bad for them but they themselves are guilty of shitting up other fanbases last week.

Everyone in Nyan's background is /out/

>>48597997
Vei's stinking poop

>>48598048
Actually this is a good point. I wonder if she had to ask permission to keep them lul

sex acts with snuffy that are illegal in 7 states!

MOUSE WILL SIGN
MOUSE IS MY QUEEN
MOUSE NEVER LETS ME DOWN
MOUSE IS FIGUREHEAD OF VSHOJO

consensual nonconsensual sex with pink cat

>>48598150
Meds

>>48598028
Excellent point, they deserve every ounce of hate they get. Remember what they did here.

Has Haruka said anything? Does she feel like leaving too?

>>48598150
nonconsensual consensual sex with pink cat

>>48597962
i dont remember posting this but i do.

This has to be the thread that’s more obsessed with internal fights than actual streams. Sad to see

>>48598194
She said it's all Mouse's fault, with her terrible community being unwelcoming to all.

https://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/user=Cactusmilk/1
Which one of you?

>he is still going
holy autism

>>48598256
If only Mouse was kind to Silver, this all could've been prevented. The thread would be at peace.

>>48598256
LOL

>>48598194
tldr of her last stream was "it's not that deep you retards"

>>48598302
he doesn't even try to change up his writing style

TOBS

>>48598343
I see. She is also leaving then

>>48598343
>retard
That's our word. You can't say it.

>>48598256
There are streamers with like 1000 viewers that get more stream discussion that all vsj+ streamers combined here

>>48598375
Haruka has at least another 7 months before renewal, assuming 12 month contracts.

sonch will be gracing us with her presence in about 4 hours

so what are the options on how long to the pink gagita stream before she just starts spilling all the behind the scenes shit, including how she really feels about the girls, including severe racial slurs.

>>48598425

>>48598412
Why discuss a stream when I can see and hear it with my own senses? Honestly, what is there to discuss in a normal stream?

>>48598414
but does Vshojo have 7 months in it?

>>48598414
not if the corp folds before then.

>>48598412
Im sure even 100 viewers streamers would have more discussion, this thread is pretty much 99% shitposting at worst and 50% shitposting at it's best.

>>48598412
do you want me to blogpost? i'm sure everyone in this thread will like it

Nyan's music taste is good catJAM

>>48598412
/vt/ isn't an appealing place to talk about VShojo.

>>48598444
Today

>>48598500
only mouse-/zenfags blogpost

>>48598412
Giri's stream get more discussion here than our girl's streams

Don't act like Mouse is some sort of fucking lynchpin to this org. It's already crumbling.

>>48598530

>>48598500
yesterday's aethel stream with nyan was insanely unhinged and pretty much no one was posting about it, I would have loved blogposts about it

>Discuss streams
>No not that stream

>>48598551
>some bitch who hasn't streamed in a month once again leaves
>some bitch who has been declining for over a year leaves
>some bitch who peaked in 2020 leaves
>v-vshojo is done bros!
As long as Mouse stays VShojo is just fine

>>48598590
Because the thread is full of dogshit right now. Why would I bother when it'll just get drowned out?

>>48598590
aethel streams have always gotten less discussion here than nyan streams

>>48598630
>the delusional state of mousefags

oh no no, pink cat is shitting on (you)

>>48598590
no one was posting about it bc it didn't have any juicy sista drama touristfags aren so desperate for

Sounds like Nyan's starting to discuss why she left and whats happening going forward
>I'll answer all the things I can answer then we'll move on to gaming

oh so they do have NDAs lmao

>>48598637
but the thread is always full of dogshit...

>>48598630
And Zen

>>48598630

>>48598630
can you suck corpo dick any louder

>>48598691
anon that's been clear

>>48598695
Not really. It's usually bad, but it's not an ocean.

>>48597789
I've been a fan of Ironmouse for 9 years and bobody gibba fug when I call myself an expert. I even ordered 2 Ironmouse PC computers. Buried my parents in Ironmouse t-shirts. The children don't know.

*leaves professionally*

>>48598630
>>48598469
>it will get drown
>what can I discuss over a normal stream
You can always discuss it and have someone that actually is watching talk. Jesus, it’s not that hard, no wonder is that easy to shit up the thread, if you fuckers just let this faggots speak

>>48598789
based

>>48598691
>I can't say more because legal shiz
>I don't know what I can really get into
>Legal stuff is still going on
WOW, I AM SHOCKED

>>48598691
>that retard insisting they couldn't have NDAs

>>48597970
Aethel molested me in VR and I posted the vocaroos here, people just molest me in VR and i record it, just in case. I never give consent either.

>Dad in Nyan's chat
He's /in/

>>48598812
VShojo is a completely clean company with nothing to hide! They would never use NDAs!

>>48598812
talent agencies rarily have serious NDAs. That's why there is always drama. Then call yourself a corpo and not an agency.

Froot talking about Sunkiller is cute. It hit 400k the other day and is now at 1/4 the views of the original.

>>48598854
if you work in the business environment they make you sign NDAs all the time

Gunrun:

”I love me a good challenge” *chuckle* ”This is why they call me THE. GUN. RUN.” *cracks knuckles*

*8 months later*

Gunrun:

*standing on scene* ”ladies and gentlemen. After these crazy
months of a lot of change. We are finally excited to reveal what we’ve been working on”

*blinds unfold showing [redacted]*

…

*loud cheering*

Gunrun:

*thinking* ”Everything going to shit is the biggest chance at glory, when you turn everything around when they least expect it”

>>48598854
>using something every fucking company uses is le bad
try not to be retarded one day in your life

>>48598520
i mean how long into it today.

>>48598854
name me one agency that doesn't have ndas

She's doing crack again.

>>48598941
They're hiding shit.

>>48598967
Mythic

>>48598941
Vshojo is not a company though it's a talent agency buddy

>>48598896
>talent agencies rarily have serious NDAs

>>48598912
can't wait for future songs

>>48598967
I would, but I'm under NDA

Froot is the only good member Vshojo has.

>>48598967
>90% of Kpop talent agencies because drama is half their bread
>OTK and Mythic if you want eceleb

>>48598985
a talent agency is a type of company

>>48598896
Are you retarded.

>>48599042
based

Did Nyan say what she thinks of Connor yet?

>>48598981
proof?

Pink cat is incapable of staying on track

>>48598896
motherfucker talent agencies live off of their connections and contacts, NDAs are mandatory

>>48598978
so is every single company

>>48598981
real, it was revealed to me in a dream

>>48599070
She said he's her BF. Kind of a surprise.

>rarily
Yes janny. This guy here. He is not old enough for this site *points at brown manlet*

>messages deleted for anything mentioning vshojo
Welp

>>48599009
she said the newest cover is droping this saturday

>Nyan was mulling over this decision for a few months

someone post the connorfag from silver stream, got to ask nyan the exact same question

>>48599049
>nooo we're not a corpo reee
>actually yes we are a corpo yes
ah

>>48599146
fuck yes finally some good news

>>48599042
agree
love my nigga Froog

>my streams will be just the same as ever
yeah you said the same thing before lying bitch

>I'm still me
This sounds very sus

>I'm still me
ok but which Nyan are you?

>>48599009
Seems like one is dropping Saturday I can't wait.

>>48599205
okay but how will they change for the worse this time?

>vshojo is gonna collapse at this rate
>message deleted

>>48599239
The new one.

>>48599164
brother i know you're autistic but it never was about not being a corporate entity, it was asbout not being like other corporate entities in the scene, ie not owning the streamer IP

Nyan wants to become a fleshtuber. She left for this reason, and not greed like Vei and Sil

dramasisters so desperate for any crumb of controversy that they're trying to make a big deal out of ndas

>>48599164
nigga, are you retarded?
of course they're a company/corpo, it's a legal entity that generates profit
are yo so underage that you think these two terms were born out of vtubing?

>>48599248
She’s only going to stream once a week now instead of two

Oh gosh guys, I hope going inside doesn’t prevent Nyan from having 75% of her streams be collabs with her boyfriend.

The silent portions of the fortune teller streams are suddenly more interesting

>I'm going to answer your questions
>I can't get into my decision, the factors involved

>>48599270
you were the retards that were saying Vshojo is not a corpo lmao my god you are pathetic

>>48599300
When will the last straggling Nyangoslings finally off themselves?

>I was not a CEO in ANY capacity
Kek, why did anyone ever believe that

>I'm just a talent, no involvement in company decisions
>Just so you're aware, when all the dirt comes out.

>>48599369
smart

>>48599359
I mean people still believe Mel is some kind of a shadow leader.

Man I just feel bad for the ones who just joined

Nyan was ousted from CEO position after fingering a secretary

Odds on this having a VOD? My break is almost over.

>>48599339
nta and don't care about nyan
but even an asexual unic is gonna feel awkward 3rd wheeling it with a couple constantly

>>48599408
that secretary? me

I know I can count on you mousebros. We are the only loyalists here. They say the streamer reflects the audience (which explains the other cases lol) loyal to the corpo until the day I die. Just like how Mouse is loyal to her (((b)))est (((f)))riend

>IronMouse
>Not Mousey
Pink love dead. IronmouseHate.

>>48599420
>3rd wheeling
are all collabs "third wheeling" you delusional retard?

>>48599464
Its been dead

>>48599402
Because she is, nobody else could be the mastermind behind such a wonderfully successful corporation

Stop replying to the seething ligger please

>>48599471
not all collabs are constant and make up a majority of the streamers streams

>>48599315
again, NDAs are a thing. and im guessing the NDA covers the shit ass deal they offered.

>>48599462
I only watch mouse and don't care if she leaves or not I will follow

My guess she’s been reading the catalog

This whole Aethel didn't influence anything

>paid to leave
She saw that here kek

>>48599551
of course she didn't she never comes here anymore just like she said
pink cat would never lie
:)

>>48599359
look at the management decisions. it was a possiblity.

>>48599359
bro her saying this is sus as hell what does she know

is something going to come out about gunrun working for epstein

Vei is the only one who left professionally

>>48599514
i didn't hear you complaining when she was doing collabs with mouse all the time

you're literally a "male on stream" seether in denial

yeah I don't think that collab with Mousey is happening now...

Keep an eye out for the new intro screen. Mouse will be gone.

the contracts were the exact same as usual, but Ve and Silver wanted far more than that

>Pays for backpack
>Kicks her out
Mission accomplished.

>>48599537
What I am saying is that I believe in mousey’s latina morals that you owe the ones who made you.

>>48599420
you are such a fucking gosling if you think you're a third wheel in a situation where you are not present and have no input, you're just a viewer lmao.

>>48599621
BASED GUNRUN

>>48599576
No, she's disputing False.

>>48599596
>i didn't hear you
you know me friend?
because I'm very critical of mouse always streaming with the same people all the time, rarely supporting anyone in vshojo outside nyan

>Nyan wants to do more 3D VR chat streams
I forgive her for leaving if this is true

>>48599611
what is usual? Kanye said to show the contracts, jews don't want people to see the contracts.

>>48599671
False didn't say she got paid to leave, that was someone here. He said that she may have been approached with a better contract.

>are you still friends with IronMouse MOUSEEEY
who of you fags is this lmao

>do y’all have any questions
>message deleted message deleted message deleted message deleted

>>48599718
lol
lmao

>>48599754
me

>>48599717

She hates IronMouse and Vshojo, based Pink Cat! VShojo was ultra stressful for her, did not enjoy her final months in the org.

>>48599762
pink cat moderator moment

>>48599754
me

>>48599789
How is this org stressful? They’re Lassiez Faire about nearly everything

Rumao I just realized nyan and aethel did karaoke with gunrun while she was considering leaving

>>48599789
>Literally relieved to be out of Vshojo
Holy shit, it must be bad in there

>>48599831
stop biting the tourist bait

someone ask what she thinks about connor

>>48599762
Based pink cat mods smiting the retards. If only Silver's mods did this

>>48599588
It's because containment breaking retards say it on twitter

>>48599831
Probably pressuring her to sign a crappy contract before a lawyer can convince her otherwise

>>48599863
that's an immediate ban

>>48599863
he's not MY boyfriend

>>48599849
kek what a backstabber

>No mouse raid
pink love is dead

Has nyanners given her reasons yet? im not watching?

>>48599831
whats stressful is probably them taking a double-digit percentage of all the simp bucks for doing basically nothing. Im sure the only reason the others are there is that their contracts arent up for renewal yet

>>48599903
Untrue, i copied the message and i didn't even get timedout

>>48599908
>he's my boyfriend's boyfriend

>>48599916
Nyan raided Silver so what is Mouse's excuse?

>I just want to move on
yeeeah

>>48599916
Mouse has a collab in a few hours she's not ending yet

>>48599850
>trusting the ultra anxious retard on how stressfull something is
even going to the shops is stressful for Nyan

>>48599917
She got pregenante again and two kids are going to be a lot.

>>48599941
It’s true i saw him post it

>pink cat came here and saw the discord silver caused and is wording everything carefully

>I feel like I just took a big shit
>I don't have to keep up the professional facade
>This house is clean
Fucking hel

>>48599960
is mouse actually streaming like 14 hours?
is she retarded she's gonna be too exhausted to do anything tomorrow

>>48599965
she going to eat these kids too?

>contract was not the only factor. She considered it for a long time.
Yeah... ok...

>>48599917
nah, it's just gonna be a long "new chapter bla bla" speech

>>48599158
>>48599863
>>48599903
this dude did but he didnt get timed out or acknowledged

>>48599916
yeah lets bring more dramafags to her channe to spam the chats that'll show her mouse is a good friend

Because of all the drama/leaving I hope there is an increase in NonCon VShojo fanfiction where all the VShojo girls kidnap the former members and gangbang/mindbreak them. The other way around would also be good. My Kindle is ready

>>48599992
That will be her excuse because her announcement is dropping tomorrow

>>48600018
CRINGE

>>48599917
Hates Vshojo, too stressful, wants to control her own shit, indie makes more sense to her.

>>48599992
>is she retarded

>>48600018
So immediately handled better than Silver by a long shot.

>OTK Nyan confirmed
It's over

>>48600007
i bet she would have left like a year ago if she wasn't a complete pushover doormat who can't make independent decisions

>>48599992
well according to rrats, connor is visiting her so no streams for a few days anyway after tomorrow

Mouse has officially streamed over both VShojo farewell streams

>Putting VShojo in the same sentence as OTV and OTK

>>48600011
she does 'new chapter, resetting my mind, fixing my mental' speeches like four times a year

>Still going to cons, do concerts, other management is in mind, stay tuned
VShojo just shit the fucking bed

>>48600090
what a cunt

>still wants to do concerts
LETS GO

Someone please make a nyanners thread so all holobronies can join her chat

>>48600068
To be fair their announce while she was live, she really didn't have any time to prepare for anything and nyan literally said that she had to write things down to no fuck up

>>48600102
what nyan says she will do and actually does are eternally separate things

She literally compared leaving vshojo to taking a shit. But she doesn't mean anything by that (said with a smirk). There are things to joke about and there are things that come across as actual sly comments and she has to know the difference.

>>48600116
as long as she brings back the karaoke streams

Nyan joining a group called デトロイト・ライオンズ

>>48600102
People really thought VShojo had anything to do with that. They made them pay for all that shit

>>48600185
it only costs you a significant fraction of your merch and sponsorship money bro, you get to keep that $5 you made in bits last stream in full!

>>48600185
>nyan said she might do things she did before with vshojo so that means vshojo didn't pay for it!

Once you are big enough there is no reason to stay in VShojo, they dont do anything benefitial at that point and you are just giving them your revenue.

Yet again someone says to get a lawyer.

>>48600185
VShojo literally did nothing for talents besides scrape their IPs. It just took 3 (soon to be 4) big talents to leave.
>I was talking to Zen and Haruka about doing something soon
Mouse FUCKING BITCH

>nyan zen and haruka have something planned

Zen and Haruka
ITS REALLY OVER

>planning collab with zen and haruka
>planning collab with vei
pink love is dead...

>Nyan talked about doing a collab with Zen/Haruka
it's over zen and moose bros

>>48599919
?
Vshojo literally only take a percentage of Merch and sponsors organised by them.

The talents keep 100% of everything else. Vshojo don't take anything from subs/dono's/bits/independantly organised sponsors/merch.

>>48600129
No you guys killed the thread the moment I when to bed. It's embarrassing to bake it now.

>>48600236
That is obvious advice. Vtubers are just retarded.

>>48600236
the fuck is in those contracts that's putting everyone off

>>48600229
Are you new? This has been confirmed many times.

>>48600274
Poop quotas

new member confirmed

>>48600236
you should always get a lawyer to look over any contract you sign this is common advice

Nyan says her Poop Bowl is joining Vshojo!

IT WAS A GOOD RIDE PINK LOVE BROS

Genuinely every member that has left has shat on Mouse. Just how awful is she behind the scenes?

>>48600269
>>48600320
It's obvious but you shouldn't have to say it. When you do it says something.

>>48600274
Sad we’ll probably never know, gotta be something new otherwise people wouldn’t bat an eye

michigan cat

>>48600343
Nyan didn't say anything about Mouse, stop spreading misinfo

>>48600378
starvation is setting in

>>48600274
None of them got a lawyer the first time around, then they got rich and figured out they need lawyers to protect their wealth

ironmouse is the lea michele of vshojo

>>48600338
It is unironically over.

Has Nyanners actually explained anything? It sounds like she’s just slayed a bunch of rrats and offered general advice

>>48600343
I'm watching Pink Cat right now and she didn't mention Mouse?

>>48600349
must be frustrating not to have any real drama to latch onto huh

>>48600378
Her silence is deafening.

>>48600378
Her silence is deafening

>>48600378
read between the lines
>IronMouse instead of Mousey
>collab with Zen and Haruka but not Mouse

>>48600378
They're obvious tourists just trying to start shit. Nyan and Mouse were still collabing every month until she left.

>>48600259
pretty sure archive bro wants to remake it with a different OP so it's more apt to survive.

>>48600378
dramasisters start to hallucinate when they are not fed properly please understand

VShojo will probobly end up regreting not kicking mouse out so they could keep the rest of the members.

>>48600425
did she say when that collab is happening?

What if Mouse, Melody and Gunrun intentionally made this ploy to get rid of them to make space for Pikamee and other Japanese-speaking VTubers?

>>48600428
will they collab now?

>>48600411
There's not much to explain.

>>48600411
She did but the also cleared up the only thing I cared
Pink Love is dead

>>48600468
VShojo is debuting several new Japanese members this month while not really doing anything for EN. The focus might be on the Japanese side from now on.

>>48600467
soonTM so who knows with Nyan

>>48600468
Melody is too retarded to do anything like that.

>>48600472
lol, maybe you'll get a short congrats video for nyans birthday

Mandatory plasma donation minimums

>>48600351
Not necessarily, it could just be the same contract they originally got and now that they're all bigger it's less appealing.

>>48600425
meds

>>48600472
aethel said they had a collab happening soon

He can finally say it.

remember when people who are familiar with how human beings interact with each other started to notice that nyan and mouse no longer talked to each other and you called them schizo

>>48600349
think about how many prospective vtubers are in their early 20s and have no real world experience, they need to be told about this kind of thing

Melody has a schedulle collab with Filian, Layna and Saruei, but no collabs with Vshojo in sight

>>48600513
>source: I made it up

End it Gun. Just put this Vshitshow out of it's misery.

>Is Goro allowed to be more or less racist?
>"No comment"

>>48600478
Vei explained it was about money. Silver explained it was about brain worms. So far I haven’t heard anything that explains what motivates Nyanners to embrace being indie or escape being VShojo.

>>48600556
It's the same kind of denial we had when people refused to acknowledge Nyan and Aethel were into each other. Turns out people who watch vtubers tend to be a bit autistic.

>>48600472
Probably only if aethel schedules it, seemed like he wanted to play games with mouse “soon” from the last time they were in each others chats

>the moment they all get out
>MORE MERCH SOON

>>48600556
Pointed this out and got called an idiot

>Nyan wants to do more merch now
Yeah it was definitely that shit contract.

>>48600584
The real reason she left was so Goro could go full /pol/

The questions I want to ask and want answered won't get them so I don't see the point. The only thing I'm going to say is this:

Everything she's talked about wanting to do, or what she can do now, or whatever, was all stuff she could do in VShojo, so she hasn't answered the most important question: why leave then? Why was it such an important decision? What is is it about being indie that benefits her more (other than money)?

She's not answering anything and she isn't, so anybody watching this for drama bits should just fuck off because you're gonna be disappointed.

>>48600557
kek reminds me of a clip going around about QT cinderella not knowing how healthcare works or how to get it

She keeps saying that she's willing to do more concerts, events, merch, con stuff. But she doesn't say how she'll accomplish that. and I don't think she can.

>>48600569
>source: Kson's interview with loutlot

>>48600603
VShojo was slow as hell getting more merch and it was always limited time only.

>>48600561
Does she want this talent agency to fail?

>>48600561
BASED

>>48600586
Something about the contracts was terrible. Everyone is so scared of what are totally unenforcable NDAs, so they won't give any details. So there's going to be endless speculation unless someone actually challenges the NDA.

WTF NYAN GRADUATED AND SHE'S STILL STREAMING. HOW IS THIS ALLOWED?

>>48600556
mouse was literally in nyan's chat last stream u schizo

>>48600644
fuck yeah this is great

>>48600627
It's not like she's completely on her own, she said she's considering management options

>>48600603
Merch is the single biggest revenue stream vtubers have. Of course they're going to be hyped for it now that they get to keep 100% of instead of VShojo taking a majority cut from it.

>>48600586
The only thing I'm getting between the lines is merch may have something to do with it. Maybe she wanted to do some really out there shit but VShojo didn't want to put their name on it. Like yesterday Aethel joked about putting a picture of his asshole on a shirt and I think said something like YOU CAN'T DO THAT AT VSHOJO. And today Nyan's mentioned merch and doing more merch multiple times.

Alternatively maybe she just didn't like that the only cut was coming from merch.

>>48600627
The only bit she dropped that was even remotely worthwhile was the part about "future management". She's already got something in place, probably either MSM with Aethel or an exclusive contract with Mythic. In other words, she's going to count on other people doing shit for her.

>>48600666
Yeah, that's totally a collab bro. Especially when Mouse has 7 streams minimum up at all times.

>>48600655
they're all getting poached by mythic. nyan already confirmed she's joining

Mouse and Aethel are going to try going pro in Overwatch as a duo. Maybe that's the real reason they left? Vshojo wasn't ready to create their own team, and Nyan can probably already feel her reflexes slipping as she approaches middle age, so this is her last momemnt for gamer glory.

>>48600697
and from what Nyan said they actually paid OUT OF POCKET for merch too more often than not.

so when is the last time mouse has posted in nyans chat or visa versa?

Mouse...It's time!

>>48600731
>Mouse and Aethel

>>48600666
she's been doing damage control since silver exposed her

>>48600655
>please say something controversial so i can post it on the catalog for easy (yous) please please pink cat im so parched

>>48600629
BASED. I bet they are integrating holo policies on their japanese generation whos not used to talent freedom. Gunrun gonna become a billionaire

Nyan not moving. She must still be making good money.

>>48600666
shush, its dramafag hours, you are not allowed to make sense

>nyan and aethel are staying in la
it's over
expect more sykkuno collabs

>>48600757
impossible with Kson there unless she lives long enough to become the villain

>>48600737
Unironically, what the fuck does Vshojo do for girls in the group that they don't offer for anyone else?

>>48600766
>more sponsors soon

>>48600778
sykkuno lives in Vegas

i want zen to kick me in the nuts

>>48600788
>Mythic

>>48600731
Watching the old guard age never feels good bro

>>48600636
>slow as hell
Every girl has talked about how the girls had a lot of input in their merch. So if they were slow, it's because these autists are incapable of doing anything in a decent amount of time.
>limited time only
There are benefits to that and that's why people do them. The flipside is that you have to have either supplies of shit laying around unsold or you have to do continual made to order merch that trickles in slower.

So, no, it wasn't that. It was just the cuts.

>>48600778
not if they go the soda route

>>48600791
>knowing this much about sykkuno
ngmi

>>48600807
I’d be willing to believe she got offers from msm and mythic but i’d be surprised if she went mythic considering how much aethel hypes up msm

>>48600701
She can't just make her own merch? Kson does that all the time.

>>48600823
aren't most vtuber merch esp from holo and niji limited anyway

One of the only things Vshojo took money from/arranged for their vtubers was merch.

Merch is the biggest revenue driver for big vtubers.

Vshojo was shit at releasing merch regularly.

This is probably about getting those sweet sweet merch/sponsor bucks, not all your retarded rrats.

It's like watching Bruce and Lawrence leave all over again. Adam, too, I guess.

>>48600869
id be surprised if she didn't join msm

>>48600886
This is true their merch game sucks

>>48600621
There are only two answers that make any sense. The first is that they don't want to do the VShojo mandated events anymore. Now admittedly there really wasn't that many of them but perhaps the new contract required more commitment to be present to company events. The second is that they are joining another agency that handles the sponsorships/merch better with a better cut. They could already do their own sponsors and merch themselves and keep the proceeds of that even while in VShojo so in that sense they could still function as an indie already so you are right there is no reason to leave VShojo is you plan to be just an indie other than those two reasons.

>>48600869
If she joins msm we can blame that manwhore for all of this

>>48600877
She can yeah. Zen and Silver have both done it in the past too. Could be something like and this is speculation, mind she didn't like the regular stuff VShojo put out and wanted to do smaller, but more meaningful drops instead of new apparel and playmats every couple of months or so. Or maybe Vshojo wasn't putting out enough and she wants to go full Nijisanji and put out new keychains every 3 weeks

>>48600823
They get to approve any merch that uses their likness. But what they're offered and how much input they have is going to vary a lot. Mouse gets anything and huge freedom because she sells well. But when someone that doesn't sell as well like Silver wants to do x or y, they probably had to say no because projections of sales didn't show it to be profitable. She had two or three moments where she vaguly posted about situations like that in her time with the org. And it probably happened to others too. That kind of thing can build up and be real issue even if it doesn't seem that severe from the outside.

Anyone have that video of r/place of pink love fading into white?

I want to look at it for a while

>>48600787
Look at what the girls have done but big indies generally don't do. Stuff like VILLS concert, the interactive booth stuff at cons, complex merch like nendroid or the ironside PC. Also normal talent agency stuff like sponsors. They can get probably 80-90% of the same stuff with a normal streamer talent agency so at the end of the day leaving just isn't that big a deal.

>talking about Toradora
2020 Nyan bros we're back

>I used to watched Toradora around Christmas every year
She's just like me frfr

>>48600886
Yep. If they were putting out merch more than 2 times a year, maybe something could be negotiated. Seriously, how hard is it to pump out 3 or 4 (x11) different t-shirt designs every month when you have a bunch of fan artists in the wings?

>>48600869
It depends whats she wants to acomplish, Mythic is so well connected and full of resources because of OTK/Starforge that I think they provide anything no matter how big and I don't know if MSM can match that.

>>48600973
Vshojo and mouses merch is pretty basic though besides the different artists she brings in. Honestly the farthest out there thing vshojo’s released anytime recently was froots mug

New rrat: Didn't VShojo change to a new merch provider recently? I remember someone bringing that up with the URL's changing or something. If the Nyan merch thing is something to go off of the new provider may be charging more or requires a better cut in exchange for (presumably) better service. That fits the criteria of merch playing into it, and money being involved for Vei.

>>48600241
pet schizo here
i cant believe my leechshojo memes hit home so hard i made 3+ members leave
and its all the bad ones, too

>>48601018
>I didn't watch Toradora with my sister last christmas
Tradition ended

I’m out of the loop, what did Silver say about Mouse that people are saying mouse got exposed

Nigga how much merch do you want to release. If anything they release too much too often. I see the VShojo twitter page advertise merch every single fucking week. Flesh streamers do merch drops once a year at most.

>>48600886
What's interesting is a lot of that might come from Mouse networking with Sykkuno. He doesn't pursue subs or donations, and just makes everything from sponsors and merch and he encourages other streamers to do the same since he thinks it's less exploative of the parasocial aspects of streaming. So she gets exposed to those ideas in streams and private chat with him, and spreads that to the other talent in the org. So they start researching how much merchandise and sponsorships are actually potentially worth and see they're actually not getting a good deal at all.

>>48601085
https://youtu.be/FnrNDpBzf4I

>>48601000
All concerts have been paid out of hand by the girls. Ironside does deals with /lig/s now. It's mostly just convention shit at this point.

>>48601089
they arent flesh streamers, they are vtubers

>>48600343
>we lied as a group as we left
literally halo inner ring from /vrg/ tier behavoir holy shit, i know you all lurk that garbage place and know EXACTLY what this comparison means

Mythic suposodly managed to give a Indie one oportunity to interview the twitch CEO, that's how well connected they are.

>>48601008
>>48601018
I had this habbit with Ghost Hunt damn

LMAOOOO
THE TRIPLE DATE

holy shit silver and asmon are really a couple...nyan just confirmed it

>>48601089
>too much too often
Are you actually fucking retarded?

oh boy

Thursday collab with Vei, Soda, Silver, Lacari, Asmon, Aethel, and some guy I have never heard of before

>Silver collab
Rrat dead.

>>48601089
There's still no onahole merch.

>>48601085
Silver called Mouse a horrible series of racial slurs and then recited the 14 words. It was wild!

please no asmongold god help me

>>48600466
why did they want mouse kicked out?
because nyanners is an evil whore bitch just like vei is? wanna hide those skeletons in your closet walls dont you?

>>48600879
I don't know about them, I just know limited merch is a business practice that works. Some people consider it scummy behavior, but people have massive FOMO issues and money to burn, so if it didn't work then they wouldn't use the tactic.

>>48600973
>Mouse gets
These are rrats, stop using them in arguments as if they're facts.

>>48601155
>Silver and Asmon collab
Sister... things are going smothly

>>48601147
The revenge leak. She still loves Mouse and had to fight for her. It's such a relief.

>>48601146 (me)
quadruple
i'm retarded

>>48601155
quqco is lacari's big titty japanese gf

Quadruple date collab

>>48601123
AGAIN OTK
Mythic is just a cover for OTK to get sponsors since their name is tarnished in the industry

You guys really think that VShojo management has done nothing with the 10 million? They are investing huge money into new talent and events. People like Vei, Nyan, and Silver can’t do anything for the VShojo brand because they are detatched from the company. This was obviously all planned. They knew that Vei and co. Didn’t need the company anymore

>>48601155
>>48601170
>Actual Triple Date collab
AINTNOWAY

>>48601147
Yep, basically.

RatPack is dead, Nyan and Aethel are solely doing OTK couple collabs from here on out

>>48601155
LET'S GO LACBORS!
WE'RE STILL /IN/

>>48600468
considering the evil people who doxxed pikamee are gone (vei nyanners silver etc) it is possible now, still unlikely

>>48598912
Still funny she eclipsed any of Silver's songs immediately lul

Oh no no no. Mouse sisters. I thought everyone hated Silver?

>>48601089
They are cute anime girls, they're prime merch material. I'm not buying merch of some ugly man (no offense bros)

>>48601048
Mouse's necklace, Zen's model, Mel's clothes... it is clear that if the girls wanted to push for something they'd make it happen.

>>48601223
meds

>>48600886
I already said that I think the reason why vei I left was because she probably wanted to get a better Revenue split with the merch and sponsorship. as for I think Silver wanted guarantees of receiving a certain amount of sponsorships.

>>48601229
When was the last time anyone collabed with her?

Mousefags getting BTFO

>not a collab streamer btw

>>48601155
>nyanners couple collabing with otk will become the new norm

its over bros

>>48601252
he thought it was snuffy or some shit like a week ago ignore petschizo, he doesn't even know what he's saying

>>48601244
Love this lil nigga

It's nice that they collab and all but why won't they do it without their boyfriends

So are boyfriend collabs just the norm now

>collab with Zen and Haruka planned
>collab with Silver in it happening
>no Mouse
Damn son

>>48601072
makes sense to me. going on that logic the profits would distributed like merch > vshojo > talent. If vshojo already takes a big cut, and the providers take one too, I imagine it leaves very little by the time any of the girls get paid. I imagine they just want a better middleman.

>>48600556
remember when pet schizo posted exposing stuff about nyanners being a stalker and a liar?

yeah, it all adds up doesnt it
every single little thing makes a bing thing

>>48601288
Why the fuck would they not stream with people they enjoy and want to have around them on a daily basis?

>>48601278
lol just don't watch it nigga
Because its fucking trash content

So mouse was the problem after all huh

>>48601229
No one hates Silver. She handeled the wizard game stuff terribly, And she acted a little innapropiate in how she did her announcement. But none of that is impossible to recover from or a reason to never do anything with her again. In particular if they're willing to be in streams with OTK people like Asmon, it would be absurd to blacklist Silver for her minor issues.

>>48601194
Taiwanese

>>48601305
I wonder if Mouse has talked to anyone besides Connor and her parents lately. How long has it been since she's interacted with Buff, Rose, or Candii publically?

>>48601288
Baby steps. First they will collab and after taking off the boyfriend training wheels we will get kino drunk collabs with the girls

God I fucking despise assmonger so much. I honestly have no clue how anyone can watch that clown and now I have to deal with him interacting with people I watch

>>48601229
Interesting how Silver decides to collab for the first time in forever immediately after leaving VShojo. Were Vei and Nyan just tainted by VShojo and thus Silver couldn't bear to collab with them for the past year and a half? And now that they are indies she can now freely collab again? Curious why they couldn't just collab while in VShojo but immediately upon leaving are now giddy to collab

>>48601393
Buff and Rose have been in her chat talking almost every stream

WHERE MY VEICHADS AT
BASED QUEEN PROMOTING UNITY WITHOUT THE RAT

>can't collab without their bfs
wow, we just can't stop winning, total obliteration, i'm so happy, i'm fucking crying bros

I am unfortunely a Asmonfag, and I can say outside OTK related things he's not going to any collab, he literally ditched their on game night. So yeah, either soda asked him personally or he actually likes Silver

>>48601393
>Candii
now that's a blast from the past. I don't think they interacted in a very very long time. I lowkey miss her oldge model

>>48601197
everybody already forgot bro, otk is getting sponsors again for their shows

>>48601155
Please actually have Asmon show up just for the triple date memes kek

Okay rrats aside, that collab sounds AWFUL. So many people and all drunk too.

>>48601163
Mel’s is coming in July, be patient

>>48601417
Can't wait for the kino tradwife podcast

Mousefags BTFO, leave the fucking thread and take your cripple bitch with you

>>48601303
>>48601278
Outside of my thread, please.
Have fun LOL
>>>/vt//OTK/

>>48601112
>All concerts have been paid out of hand by the girls
Source?

>>48601421
he's the picture of a phony skeleton man, this is the one downside in all of this