/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48528695
>>48525159

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

our response?

>>48528563
>bae
>chaos
don't you need a medium (planets, nature/animals or humans) for chaos to exist?
Sana would be ahead of her in terms of existence.
because chaos cannot exist if there's nothing to cause it...
right?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>58,764: Miko (Hololive)
>55,280: Marine (Hololive)
>46,317: Miko (Hololive)
>30,635: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,588: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,643: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,607: Nagao (Nijisanji)
>14,912: Mio (Hololive)
>14,513: Nui (Nijisanji)
>13,570: Mikeneko (Indie)
>13,448: Sora (Hololive)
>12,955: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,629: Akina (Nijisanji)
>12,484: Tosaki Mimi (VSPO)
>11,808: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,458: Met (VSPO)
>11,430: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,158: Sora (Hololive)
>10,492: Luna (Hololive)
>10,165: Runa (VSPO)

Thoughts on Cocoa?

>>48528968
The big bang was the first thing ever and that was chaotic

>>48528956
>>48528899

>>48528968
chaos always exists as long as particles and waves can move (time) through space

>>48529001
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/Nene

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Miko

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
90x: Hololive
22x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
10x: Marine
9x: Miko
6x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Koyori, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>48528956

The collab with Suisei and Marine really highlights Baelz problems at the moment. She couldn't go with the flow at all and was third wheeling like crazy. You might be tempted to say it's because she's with two of the most social JPs but it's an issue with her EN collabs too. She just doesn't have the wit to keep up with the conversation and reverts to making monkey noises.

Twitter is kill

>>48529007
wtf, is that chloe's child?

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>5/1 DAILY TALLY
9,139: IRyS (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: IRyS

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: IRyS

>>48529063
>Baelz
shut up Kiara

>>48529103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-ME6X3zU48

>>48529124
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
85x: Hololive
34x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
12x: Mori
10x: IRyS
9x: Baelz, Gura, Fauna
8x: Mumei, Ina
7x: Amelia, Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara, Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
112p: Fauna
83p: Mori, Ina
82p: IRyS
79p: Baelz
78p: Mumei
64p: Vox
55p: Amelia
53p: Mysta
48p: Kiara
47p: Kronii
45p: Gura
38p: Luca
31p: Selen
18p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

SC APRIL???

>>48528584
I gave it a dislike

>>48529124
There is ONLY IRyS

>>48529124
irys is inclining!

>>48528584
I dunno man, the voice is okay but she doesn't sound like she can sing

oh yeah, question.
how can people on twitch play whatever the fuck they want (music) and nothing happens, but if someone streaming on youtube does, they get assassinated by the music label mafia

>>48529124
This artist sure is living the good life.

>>48529063
something similar happened during the off collabs with the other EN girls and her collab with Vesper. I think Irys being there makes her feel comfortable in other collabs.

>lip-sync is about to pass mosh race

>>48529303
youtube is google and google has assasin bota looking at everything always
twitch nothing happens unless you get reported enough

>>48529303
There's multitude of reasons Twitch is dying and it's one of them

>>48529303
Twitch has no automated takedown thus many stream split the audio channels in obs so that the VOD don't have the music while the live yes

>>48529001
>MariSui slipped
Damn, is EN really that much of a debuff?

>>48529353
So you are saying that IRyS just needs to fuck the stress out of her?

Mori EN gold, can't stop winning.

>>48529353
You'd think being a zoomer who was completely cut off from the internet for 20 years would mean she has decent social skills but nope.

>>48528028
>Mythic introduce Vtuber to western sponsorships
>some sponsors will do research and find Hololive
>somehow it'll go back to Gura
?Hmmm is that the plan?
Feel sorry for chumbies tho as she will get spitoased by BOTH JP and EN sponsorships.

>>48528579
>what did Kiara meant by this
DIMITRI JAP, I KNEEL!

Superchats APRIL??

>>48529445

>>48529432
She’ll slip to Mori later

>>48529049
migo ai!

>>48528579
She was reading chat saying that Mori is trying to figure it out

>>48529303
Twitch basically runs on the notion that they have no idea whats happening on the platform so they can't be held liable.
They're more or less one major lawsuit away from being forced to do content ID like youtube.

EN3keks status?
ZE HAHAHAHAHA

>>48529464
>Fauna was doing test runs on retention and algo influence
sasuga teacher's pet

>>48529462
look at all these sponsors anon, not even cover has 1/4 of them
>>48528271

>>48529584
you keep posting that shit like we're supposed to get the reference

Isn't Mori the one that needs to get raided than other way around?
Either way that sounds like idiotic idea, do these idiots in EN management didn't take any lessons from what happened to Tempus due to raids?

>>48529541
What do you mean trying to figure it out? You can only raid channels that have the option available. You select the channel and click raid. That's it. There's nothing to "figure out" it's just copy pasting the handle of the channel and clicking a button.

>>48529615
I'm that teacher

>>48528579
New EN producer is sick of their shit.

>>48529464
I don't know man. If I get raided into a Mori stream, I'll turn off the feature permanently.

>>48529471
No one GAF about that metric anymore after people discovered how much more corpo chuubas are making from merch, anon

I hate EN off collabs so fucking much

>>48528028
Man this whole setup sounds too good to be true on how they're selling it. Screams it'll come crashing down in a couple of years from now.

POP/STARS made into my hololive automated list without ever listening once on this account/device, is this the power of kpop?

>>48529671
>No one GAF about that metric anymore after people discovered how much more corpo chuubas are making from merch
Except that we don't know shit outside of revenue.
And there is actual COGS going into merch + unknown split

>>48529663
Raiding won't do anything but paper over ENs recline like it did with the Nijis so if that's Japs grand plan then EN is fucked. Raiding doesn't build a box.

>>48529623
That's why i said it's the opportunity chance for hololive. Someone in marketing department will do the research to see wtf is vtuber, and guess what will they find? Hololive.

>>48529628
Why would you look at homos? Look at Fauna

>>48529623
I dunno, most of these are gaming companies or mostly third rate companies compared to shit Cover deals with, like the fucking government for example

>>48529771
Hololive is not vtubing, retard

>>48529353
Maybe Bae is shy for off collabs? I know a lot of loud people online who are much quieter in person.

>>48529783
Homos are the only part of cover that is really into raiding hard and they have no fucking funnels

>>48528271
MANSCAPED sponsorship of Girls Talk would make disgusting amount of cash

>>48529823
Bae's issue from the first Open VC Minecraft ones was always that she's basically a nonfactor in multiperson collabs.

>>48529626
He killed "One Piece is real" meme guy, there's no reference. EN3 as dead as Whitebeard

>>48529847
They aren't fucked because of raiding
They were fucked and resorted to raiding and didn't work

>>48529913
They were raiding each other before their collab ban was over m8

>>48529768
Imagine being this dumb

>>48529731
It's just MCNs dude. They've been around since forever and I'm pretty sure all big content creators has signed up with one (and got scammed) at some point.

>Shu
Grim
>Shinri
He should give up and graduate

So let me get this straight, chat told Kiara to raid Mori and then she read a message in chat saying that Mori is trying to figure out raiding.

And the result in this thread is some sort of management forced raid strategy?

>>48529623
All those sponsors were because of asmon, soda, and twitch affiliated streamers of course they’re going to have more sponsors than cover when they’ve been streaming befor cover even existed

so EN is going to do more raids?
or are they going to let JP and ID do it as well?
i don't think JP should do it but it would be funny seeing a 50k stream gets a 30k raid

>>48529764
Lamy making “only” around $158k from SC (post-cut, pre-tax), yet earning up to $1.7M (pre-tax) in 2022 wasn’t enough to clue you in?

>>48529994
>And the result in this thread is some sort of management forced raid strategy?
In case of Tempus I'm pretty sure they would do this even without management, Twitch mind rot is incurable

>>48530013
so 1 asmon + soda = 1 covercorp?

>>48530047
The only JP stuff worth raiding would be if someone was doing a stream before a 3D live or something

>>48529993
so, the dispute for brealomg into 2view territory is between him and the red shota huh

Didn't Gura start her long hiatuses after Omega was replaced by Jap?
Is there some internal conflict about the direction he was to give HoloEN that Gura doesn't agree with?

>>48529960
Ok my bad
>they aren't fucked because of raiding
>they got fucked for trying to leech the girls and misread the market

Fauna pls tweet about Kronii's ass or something so we can be rid of these loops

>>48529992
>big content creators
that's the thing. I'm seeing a bunch of literally whos in there who'll mostly end up shafted when things go south

>>48529983
Imagine thinking raiding actually did anything for Niji when they're reclining hard despite sharing around their viewers like they're Vaseline at an orgy

who was the anon that told us that pekora only wasted 1mill on horserace bet? a clipper told me it was 1.5mill

>>48530132
These aren't exclusive

>>48530126
a part of jap's plan is greenlighting more of gura's plans which is why shes busy

>>48530109
>brealomg
**breaking
typing in the dark is hard pls understando

>>48529124
sasuga my wife

>>48529462
Somehow I feel this company will implode in near future

>>48529993
Isn't shu a burger? Why the fuck is he doing a coutndown stream 6 and a half hours away?

>>48530109
I would add Aia and Aster in that dispute.

>>48530126
didn't Jap joined in December, that would make it before Jap

>>48530179
Declaring that EN is fucked because of a supposed recline, which has more to do with takamori dragging the average down, and the lack of Gura and Ina streaming, makes everything else a moot point

>>48530264
money

>>48530214
Just because raids didn't work the homos it doesn't mean it won't for the girls.
Especially considering Fauna has also been doing that and it worked for her

>>48529668
you are supposed to let yourself be redirected and then close the stream before you watch 30 seconds that way you will kill her channel

>>48530200
I don't know how people are so stupid about this one. Pekora did not waste her actual money. She was given that money by sponsorship to use as long as she streams it. If she wins she gets a small % out of it. That shit is government controlled.

>>48530254
it's basically renammed otk. Wasn't one of their founders covering for his bud that was being accused of abusing some girl in a party? that shit blew up and he had to get sacked so they're coming up with that instead to keep sponsors.

>>48530013
Are they willing to pay for those streamers just because asmond and soda vouch for them? Why not going to hololive which has so many proven track record of boosted sale?

>>48529960
They raided since day one. Raids don't help and will annoy certain fans. Gura into anyone will get that person channel kick from the algo.

>>48530347
>which has more to do with takamori dragging the average down, and the lack of Gura and Ina streaming
this is pure cope
if Takamori is the majority of EN content day to day , and the heavy hitters are AWOL, then EN is on a recline.

>>48529124

>>48530126
No, Jap joined in December, Gura's hiatus started well before that. Her not liking the direction of the previous producer could be a thing tho, who knows.

>>48529063
I have never seen Bae have this problem when she's with Mumei and Fauna who are her most frequent collab partners, she's fine even during chadcast
Sorry, can't relate as a watcher

>>48530347
Gura and Ina not streaming is contributing to the decline of the branch yes. You can't just plug your ears and say that EN isn't actually reclining because of one of the main factors causing the recline, the laziness of the members. If they're not streaming that's one of the things killing the branch, it's not a mitigating factor you can point to and say things aren't grim because Gura is semi retired.

>>48529303
It's only because twitch is still small time enough that major music labels don't care

Also most streamers split their audio channels so the music is never on their VODs, and VODs are the only thing the music label bots go after.

>>48529063
She's unironically an introvert at heart despite her outward behavior and was tossed into an impromptu Collab with two of her heroes, I don't blame her

>>48529823
This is it, Bae is always super shy during offcollabs

>>48530489
Mumei and Fauna are both equally as boring and autistic as Baelz and terrible at collabs themselves.

>>48530377
I just don't like Mori but I don't want to kill her channel because of it.

>>48530451
We've already seen the chart, you can stop spreading your bullshit. HoloEN could do better, but it's nothing akin to the nonsense you're spewing

any info would be nice fauna, i have go to work tomorrow, unlike you

>>48530489
NTA but true, ORK collabs are pretty fun
Maybe it's just her being shy in person

Another raid with insane rentention.
Miniature holobox.

>>48530388
They would not give sponsors directly to the shitters, they would get those open to all.

>>48530559
Opinion rightfully discarded.

>>48530585
YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR OFFCOLLAB IN JP PRIMETIME AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT

>>48530599
What you don't see is her getting groped by all her Collab partners during every offcollab, she doesn't know how to deal with it

And people say the green whore cares and is "the best" but it's 72 hours since her last stream and she isn't even telling people when her next one is. She still hasn't tweeted anything despite full on cancelling a stream and then not doing a replacement stream despite putting it forward. All this before she takes a break kek. Just like Gura I guess. I bet she doesn't stream today or tomorrow either.

>>48530559
Worst post ITT

>>48530575
>If we pretend Ina and Gura still stream and cut out two of the most prolific EN streamers the branch is fine!
You can't be fucking serious. This is giga cope. EN is more than just it's median, it's also the amount of content they put out and if you cut out Mori and Kiara then EN loses half it's shit to watch. So what's your point a monthly Gura stream is perfectly healthy? Get fucked

>>48530656
Ogey

>>48530622
>>48530658
Sorry I watch JP so Mumei and Fauna are really fucking bad when you put them up against Miko and Pekora. I suppose they're good enough if you're an ENfag and need to live off that slop.

>>48529792
Who cares what "most" of the sponsors are when the others are fucing amazon, sony, hyundai, logitech, intel, AMD, and so on
The japanese government thing is really just a prestige thing, Gura can't even hand out the business card they gave her lol

A phase connect just raided Mori

>>48530755
She has open raids and phase needs to still. Who was is?

>>48530575
>if we remove the two members that stream the most
>and pretend that the two semi-retired members are still streaming
Anon...

>>48530755
Screenshot?

>Uruka from Phase just raided Calli

That's her second raid today after Kiwawa yo boi inclining twitch style~!

>>48530799
>>48530779
Uruka
>screenshot
Message was gone by the time I tabbed in, but Mori said her name out loud.

>>48530671
If the viewers keep showing up to streams, if merch keeps getting sold, if people keep sending SCs, if memberships are still being paid for than yes, if social media engagement is still happening then yes, EN is doing fine. Like I said they could do better, I just don't accept your doom and gloom as fact

>>48529063
I keep saying that Bae is a wallflower with zero charisma but nah I must be a niji agent trying to smear hololive. Her fucking numbers speak for themselves. She hasn't even been smart enough to compensate for her lack of character with good content, is no one giving advice to that poor rat behind the scenes?

>>48530718
Those big sponsors are not going to give anything to Suzy 2view. That list is mostly to try and attract more content creators to it

>>48530656
Rrat

>>48530846
People are calling you a niji agent because her offcollab with Subaru and then the one with Faumei and Lui was fine

>>48530718
The endgoal for twitch(western) streamers is to reach corpo level sponsors and especially for burgers means entering the fucking Valhalla, making even holo first army blush with the amount of cash going around.

>>48530846
She is doing fine and always has a chance to improve. It's one of the biggest advantages of being in Hololive

>zero charisma
god it's this retard again

>>48529755
268k views rn, is that good growth? I dunno how fast or slow DN music has been lately

>>48530930
the great axis of faggotry is forming

>>48530930
Sounds what you would find in Minecraft Yt predators stories.

>>48530930
mysta will rape tempus...

>Takamori starts railing each other
>Ina is open to raid
>Gura uh, she'll come back
Restoration of Mythbox?

How much of a raid did Mori receive?

>>48530643
it'd be funny if this wasn't basically what they said when people complained the last time....

>>48530996
Ame doko

>>48530930
Honestly Luxiem getting involved with them would 100% keep most of the Hologirls away from them for good so sounds good to me.

>>48530942
You're just spesking in platitudes. Literally everyone has "a chance to improve". As it stands bae is a vtuber plain and simple

>>48530996
>Restoration of Mythbox
More like killing blow lol

>>48530996
All of myth guiding all their viewers to Gura is kinda kino.

>>48531029
refused to turn on raid function
you know her.

>>48531025
Like 20 people and they all left

>>48530996
>railing

>>48531065
Same with Gura

>>48531028
imagine the boysbox being nijien and starsen but vesper ruins it by raiding nina...

>>48530996
>Ina is open to raid
Has ina ever been raided, like ever?

>>48530975
in one day those are very good numbers, now it's all up if it has legs

>>48531079
A freudian slip if there ever was one.

>>48531071
Is Mori an idiot? Why even give these guys clout?

>>48531094
no but she raided other people once or twice.

>>48530499
You can assume the interest is still there though but holo EN lost much of their momentum as a branch. That's also why people here can't shut up about EN3.

>>48530930
LOL IB4 this lead to creation of an wider EN male Vtuber box

>>48531131
what guys?

>>48531035
Look at AZKi at the moment, Subaru was bad at the start, Pekora was the runt of her gen, or Mio' miso soup.
What platitudes am I speaking of?

will we finally see myth get onto main tally? (other than gura)
will we FINALLY see an Ame gaming stream get onto main tally?

>>48531177
Phase or anyone that raids her channel. IRyS got a raid yesterday and didn't read their name or interact with them

[Sad News] Chapipi is going on long-term hiatus
https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi/status/1653152542505705472

>>48529353
>watching homocollabs

opinion discarded

>>48531230
Just give up on ame already

>>48531230
>Ame
prob on a good day with MC stream.
need to be a good day tho.

>>48531313
she just have to tail Fauna or Ina and eat a raid

>>48531249
RIP. Losing one of the few good indie EN vsingers, but I hope she's reincarnating and has learned that groomers are bad for your channel's health.

>>48529731
It’s the upd8 model. Not really sustainable in the long run unless they have alternative income. I’m actually surprised they can gather that >>48529623 many advertisers. Overall “influencer” advertising has been going down since January.

>>48531094
the only option would be Kiara and she hasn't exactly had a lot of opportunities to do that.

>>48531230
TTRPG will get 10k. Barely.

Koyo cutting it close

>>48531249
>https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi/status/1653152542505705472
EN3 is on it's way I see

>>48531473
Cutting what close?

>>48531489
If the whole gen is of her quality then there's hope
It's unlikely tho

>>48530931
The first army has merchandise profit that mostly goes to them

>>48531369
Do we know if ita people that will sponsor them or people that could sponsor them. This reminds me of when a new game console comes out and they have a big ass list of all the companies that "will" make games for it

>>48530606
>Another raid with insane rentention.
Did someone besides Kiara raid Mori?

>>48531514
Asakoyo in 2 minutes

Numbers feel fucked, did YouTube change something? Selen languishing at 1.5k with minimal overlap feels wrong. Her waiting room was 1k, only 500 people joining in an hour is nuts. I remember seeing that YouTube wasn't recommending some videos or showing some live streams in the sidebar, is that still a thing?

>>48531489
I hope, she'd be an actual good pick.

>>48531552
Why would she do an Asakoyo today when she's doing one with Mio during her 24hr stream

>>48531243
Didn't know IRyS was open to anyone. She gave every indication that she'd prefer to stay inside the garden.

>>48531595
Why not? It's just the usual weekly asakoyo

>>48531534
without dusting off the good old "ninja and shroud play 1hr of apex for 1mln$", twitch upper tier gets piles of cash and plenty referrals while double dipping on youtube.

>>48531641
It's probably the default option. She doesn't know who raided her and I don't think she care based on her reaction to getting the raid

>>48531641
It seems like management is the ones opening them to raids but if that was true it seems like they'd open gura to it.

>>48531715
>twitch upper tier
Too bad none of them are vtubers

>>48531767
She had it open for a good amount of time. I think she just didn't feel like whitelisting all the Hololive channels

>>48531580
They always end up rotting in small corpos

>>48531815
the chain was about the top line of sponsorships in the mythic portfolio, those would never go toward their vtubers anyway

>>48531732
I assumed that the default option was no one. Therr's been discussion before but I forgot if it is.

>>48531641
Was Irys in Youtube Music Weekend? Because I remember Mori and Kiara were open to be raided by anyone after that

>>48531544
could
typical ad agency thing. That list is basically their client list. They match their clients’ campaigns to whichever talent that they deem have the desired target audience. if they can consistently show their conversation rate, they might have a chance. in the long run it will just be like other mcn before though. The one with the most audience will get all the sponsorship and the rest gets scraps.

>>48531243
Seems like a bitch move. If you're going to have raids open than a quick "thanks" doesn't hurt anyone.

>>48532087
I think it's off at first, but if you IRyS wants the Hololive raids she need to turn it on. At that point the default on is open

>>48532127
It's just to lure streamers into it then. Do Mythic get a cut out of ad rev or donations?
>>48532137
She said "thanks for the raid" before continuing her rambling. No name drop

>>48532127
>Sign with Mythic to get good sponsorships
>No one watches you so you just get NordVPN and Manscaped
Yay...

>>48532335
That's not true. Mihiyo sponsors everyone and they can always get that sweet Raid: shadow legends

>>48527694
Need a timestamp for this

>>48532137
You should only raid someone because you like them, want to support them, want your viewers to enjoy their stream, or all of those. You shouldn’t use your raids as a tool to get attention

So how do you save NijiEN by this point?

>>48532642
graduate everyone and start again in 2 years

>>48532311
Don’t know. Has any of the talent talk about their contract?
I would think that they don’t. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have as many talents joining them.

>>48532642
Let scarle start doing 3D twerk streams

>>48532335
Vei and Nyan really left vshojo because they couldn’t get a Taco Bell sponsorship

>>48532642
New all male wave (not gamers)

>>48530996
Kiara is almost never getting raided anyways. Only Mori would very rarely be in position to raid her

if Ina doen't have a pov who is going to get bigger numbers? kaela of mori?

>>48532786
What's the difference?

>>48532642
The female version of luxiem.

>>48531489
>hibernation status not retirement
EN3?

>>48532960
mori

>>48532960
Kaela? It's gonna be close

>>48532988
Gaming is numbers poison for NijiEN males.

>>48532642
There is no saving it.
>>48532691
That's how you save HoloEN.

Ok, because here is somebody asking for SC. Hex got like 50 bucks in Streamlabs and Vox like 150.
Click on their profilepicture in their streamslabs:
>https://streamlabs.com/hexhaywirenijisanjien/home
>https://streamlabs.com/voxakumanijisanjien/home

>>48530930
Madness instead of Chaos, bold choice of words.

>>48533025
If so, that would put EN3 at June/July at the earliest unless she's gonna stream on both sides.

>>48533089
Would an idol model work for nijiEN males?

Fauna doko

>>48533138
>le unhinged

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-mJralH_OY

>>48533265
Elira decided to take a fat shit on this with her fake as "ikemen" voice

>>48533138
Tempus and Mysta are just a whirling maelstrom of devastating chaotic insane madness. Holy shit, they absolutely destroy small towns and level cities. They're literally the vtubing equivalent of an extinction event. Just watching 5 minutes of their streams will leave you a drooling retarded mess who has to have a nurse wipe your ass until you die. They will turbo-skull-fuck your synapses into the Jurassic age. Watching their streams is like look at the face of Cthulu while on crack cocaine.
Anyway I love their clips! Like and retweet!

>>48533176
Isn't that what one of the new male corpos is doing? A full fledged male idol concept.

>>48532127
so the people that join it also risk getting into that whole thing vshojo was having of only their top talents getting the sponsors and the others rotting away?

Gura will be on Koyo's stream

>>48533387
It's machinima all over again

>>48533370
That korean Plave? Seems to attract chinksisters and SEAsters

>>48532754
at least nyan is on a DLC of a spin-off yakuza remake
god that entire thing was beyond dumb in retrospect

>>48533397
It's Gura, Ina, Kronii and Mumei no? ssg numberfag the 4 biggest tourist draw from EN

>>48533370
The korean one? Those are actual ex-idols, not just e-boys.

>>48533501
Shameless numberfag behaviour from the koyote

>>48531715
Let me know xqc and jerma gets a cafe collab

>>48533535
>Shameless
She'll do it proudly

>>48530375
Those raids had good retention but if you start raiding al the time you and up pushing people into shit they have 0 interest in or supa reading, that's when the problems start.

>>48533370
aren't those "old" kpop idols that can't compete anymore in flesh?

>>48533545
i'd rather have my own fantasy baseball league desu
go clowns

>>48533535
It's based since she's likeable. It'd be shameless if she was a shitter like Mori.

foly fuck that's niji tier graph

>>48533545
Cafe collabs are primary an asian only thing the closet thing they have in the west is hooters.

>>48533705
Ew who did botsister infect this time?

>>48533755
Pokimane hooters collab when?

>>48533586
>don't raid homo collabs
>don't raid SC readings
>don't let Gura raid at all
EZ

>>48533765
sisters firing up the botfarm in anticipation of the new homobox child of the axis of faggotry with luxiem

There's no fixing NijiCN until they drive out the Luxiem fanbase.

Sisters hate Hex even though he's literally just Vox doing a funny tiktok raspy voice. They don't watch the girls and no other boy group can prosper due to fanbase fights while they're there.

>>48533822
didn't she basically retire?

>>48533828
>don't let Gura raid at all
the youtube algo equivalent of a killswitch kek

>>48533855
Damn sister, at least use the expensive bot

It's time to admit that Mumei is the best singer in EN

>>48533873
The only solution was to never debut a male gen in the first place, or at least never debut an integrated male gen, so that the women could have continued to grown and retained their male audiences of ex-Holofags.
Now it's over and the damage is done.

>>48533899
Is it really not fixed yet since that british guy's video?

>>48533956
Funny how the one doing the most singing streams in EN is Ame

The FauKronMei thing is gonna overlap with the Mori/Ina/Kaela minecraft and IRyS sponsorship isn't it...

>>48533996
if anything the killer ads portion might get fixed months down the line, the engagement part should be "working as intended"

>>48533996
Has Youtube ever fixed anything?

>>48534035
If it's ASMR, no. If it's whatever random shit they decide to do, yes

>>48533957
They could not do this in Nijisanji. They where destined to fail

>>48533957
They can still grow if they completely cut off the males. Viewers have the memory of a goldfish and new people are still entering the hobby that don't know or care about what happened 6 months ago. They'll probably never get back the people they lost over the last 2 years but they could still gain new people.

Will this have any impact on Cover, or will the other EN corps be the most at risk?

>>48534035
I will watch Irys unless this delusional collab turns out to be real.

>>48534048
>>48534062
>made things worse instead to subvert our expectations

EN GOLD

>>48534167
If I'm being real I fully believe it's SOMETHING with an off-collab/traveling now
Fauna would have updated on twitter and would probably be streaming already if it was just her 3D model or a sponsorship or something.

I commend Faumei for being hospitable and gracious for reaching out to Kronii, but I wish they hadn't

>>48534186
Subverting expectations is just another way of saying
>we gave the fans something that they don't want and no one asked for.

Anything to threaten Miko gold?

>>48534328
....sounds like tempiss/poop

A Luxiem birthday countdown stream isn't gonna lose to Mori right

>>48534387
No way, they got 80k tourists

>>48534214
tf Fat Joe doin there

>>48534387
The might lose to Kaela

I remember there being a tracker for how many sponsorships the Hololive girls have gotten over time posted her a while back, anyone still have that?
IRyS getting two sponsorships back to back basically made me curious how EN stacks up against eachother.

>>48534588
Most is either Kiara or Mori
Lease is Fauna
That's all you need to know

Pomu my slave, you did good.

>>48528873
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>48533115
?
It's been one day

>>48530930
>>48533705
>>48533855
>Start planning a team up with the Niji fags
>Get infected with their "Mori doing a polygraph test" tier graphs
>Next they'll catch their "yab company" drama debuff and plummet even further faster
Sounds good to me.

I’m sick of seeing kson and yakuza it’s not even that great of an accomplishment

>>48535342
Where did you even see it

>>48535180
>>Get infected with their "Mori doing a polygraph test" tier graphs
fuck you I spat my water

Tempiss status?

Why is Vox clone #3 not doing well? Is it the bara model?

>>48535457
Could you be more specific?

the queen

>>48535487
Hex? Maybe?

This 2 view just raided Mori

https://www.youtube.com/@tiamiuuu/streams

>>48535431
Get railed

>>48535522
Hex is Vox clone #2

>>48535522
he's talking about the barafag from tempoop

>>48535567
How is that thing a Vox clone

>>48535567
Is that some attempt to shoe horn him into a discussion. I've honestly never heard anyone speak of him since debut.

>>48535646
same goes for the rest of Tempus2 maybe except for the clown
and flygon but only because of his hilariously low numbers

>>48535599
How is he not? They both do the shitty corpse husband knock off voice
When Hex debuted people thought it was barafag's roommate cause he had already annunced his graduation

>>48535646
Probably but the the thread is dead as fuck so who cares

Is it true that Kson helped the creation of mythic?

>>48535457
Shinri? he doesn't fit his model and same as personality, like who want to be a comfy streamer when you're literally look and dress like some gayass muscle manslut.

>>48535544
tempiss2 medians is absolute bullshit between this bara dude and flayon

>>48535723
yeah, why is it dead? SEA got rangebanned again?

>>48535544
This art is shit. Do they get no fan art or is it an Ironic image?

A fraction of the box hasn't given up on Matsuri yet.

>>48535646
The only time i hear about him, its because some gay anons keep posting his bare chest.

>>48535755
If that's true, the first outfit, that guy needs to get some modest clothing and leave the bare chest shit behind forever. Like it or not, people are gonna judge you for your model.

>>48535723
Voice being similar doesn't make them similar. A clone would need to act somewhat similar to the original. Chest man is not Vox, he is boring as fuck

>>48535544
Who fucking raids a superchat reading?

>>48535854
So you don't like bare chests huh. Hah take this chest hater kek.

>>48535908
nijis and homos

>>48530489
>>48529063
i managed to catch most of it live but it felt like it she was a little shy/reserved and was at times struggling to find the right words. she just wasn't as snappy or comfortable as she's in EN collabs.
as great as her japanese skills are, at the moment she's nowhere near kiara/irys/anya levels of fluency, even if she's improved a good amount since her debut.

>>48535544
I don't know why they don't have a community calendar of planned streams, and some identifier of which streams they should and shouldn't raid.

>>48535908
Someone who wants to kill your channel

>>48535749
What if that's her company that she said would steal simps' wallets?

>>48535801
Yes

>>48535888
The first costume is usually themed around what the gen gets. For his sake, hope they go for casual and not some fantasy setting bullshit

>>48529471
Nothing yet?

>>48535544
While we're on the subject of low 3 views. She's playing Star rail whatever that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wixb7EeVek

>>48535965
>Shy/reserved
Those are two of her oshis in the same room

prediction for Ina Mori Kaela numbers?
Ina 7k
Kaela 5k
Mori 4k

>>48535960
I said gay anons, am a straight SEAman but arigatou for Kuroe stinky tits.

>>48536128
Isnt it in moris channel only?

>>48536159
Kaela has a reservation too

>>48535544
wow, they're such geniuses for raiding into superchat readings with horrific warcrime-tier retention.
They should keep doing that over and over and over and over and over and over

>>48536041
wait what

>>48535960
Dumb Orca's chest is one of the greatest creations in hololive history.

Apparently Asmongold loved /vt/ wonder how many other flesh faggots come /here/ this place must be more active than LSF or really any other place discussing streamers out there.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1808812364?t=00h33m31s

>>48536159
https://www.youtube.com/live/qykFc4v-MTM
Kaela POV

>>48536218
>>48536283
Ah thanks, im still not watching tough, i cant stand mori.

>>48536271
wrong timestamp

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1808812364?t=0h29m50s

>>48536159
Kaela POV
https://www.youtube.com/live/qykFc4v-MTM?feature=share
Mori POV
https://www.youtube.com/live/QsSh_Lscb6o?feature=share

>>48536271
As in he looked and laughing at this incel infested shithole? he's a fucking grifter.

>>48535769
How could you forget the guy who's actually the lowest in the median? It's not either of those two kek

>>48536271
What's LSF?

>>48536403
Trying to leech like a week after your debut had some consequences for el spico i see

>>48536403
My guy gets who gets raided the most and guess who doesn't

>>48536271
I really miss when this shithole was the "internet hate machine"
Now every retard just goes here, we are filled with redditors and discordniggers

>>48536403
>Hakka below Machina
HOLY GRIM, what the hell did he do to deserve that?

>>48536444
/vt/ but on Reddit and for (mostly) Twitch fleshstreamers.

>>48536444
LiveStream Fails

>>48536271
Kek he literally describing himself, but actually making money.

>>48536403
That is bs. There is no way that he is at 864, when he is 500 and below without raids.

>>48536508
Didn't get raided as much. Make no mistake, red homo is the runtiest homo

>>48536403
How the hell are Aster and Aia below them. Disgusting.

>>48536508
Spicsisters, is the HoloES dream dead?

>>48536403
Oh huh, Shinri has 41 streams which is more than literally everyone else on the chart. Does he just spam streams?
>>48536560
That's reflected in the average, he's around 500 there

>>48536596
It's kind of hilarious that Ame ended up being a better harbinger for HoloES than the actual latino

>>48533397
>>48533501
when?

>>48536656
He does like 2 streams every day that he streams, one being a lazy ass zatsu

>>48536254
Mori has to ruin even other people's fanart with her cringe jokes.

>>48536656
Aster doing his fellow femboy a solid

>>48536508
He being spic also filtered other spics, its funny to see he's try to numberfagging by spamming birthday in title.

>>48536664
You mean Nene. She speaks more Spanish than Ame

>>48536732
huh, that may hold some weight
>t. spic that avoids spic chuubas/streamers

>>48536591
>Aster
he's boring, even going full femboy doesn't get numbers either.
>Aia
Viet, also boring, hated by sisters.

>>48536508
>>48536581
>HEY GUYS I'M HOLOTORI TOO
>dies
lemao

>>48536271
Is that why he signed up so many vtubers to his agency for some reason?

As a spic i want white chuubas not other browns like me. Give me Mumei, Gura, Fauna and IRyS for my exotic and im good.

>>48536403
My boi will collab with Towa and join holobird

>>48536732
Honestly, i have no shame in admiting that as a spic i really hate other spics. Specially streamers.

>>48536403
POPULAR DEMANDS

>>48536858
I only ever opened one of Aia streams the thigh cam asmr. She lied to me so I closed it and never gave her time again.

>>48536732
Does he sound or act like a fag? That's a hard filter for a lot of american spics male or female.

>>48536961
Holotori closed it's doors because of him. Funny shit

>>48536664
Unironically
>Cute girls do X, Y and Z >>>>>>>>>> some dude do X, Y and Z.

>>48537025
He should have known better than to try to step into an all girl unit like that. That was fucking retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/live/lZkLrIBejYU
EN gold

Interesting strat by koyo, instead of 2 12 hr stream, she will be doing a multiple stream like fauna did , then i realize they can't do a variety stream wherr they can play multiple games in one stream

>>48537078
I wonder why honestly, dont females find retards attractive? Or is that a male only thing?

>>48537078
>A few dudes getting really popular with crazy Chinese fujos for like 3 months caused Cover to completely forget this iron law of the industry
Psyop: succesful.

>>48537110
Worse part is he was trying to bait bird interactions with Kaela early on

>>48536656
>Meloco rocking a 865 average, literally the lowest in XSoleil
I remember when shitposters were calling her the IRyS killer
I wonder if her PL fans stuck around for the new her, they were pretty vocal at the start but I haven't seen them in ages.

>>48529124
Ok, this one is funny.

>>48536961
>LOW INT
so that's why

>>48537162
I wonder if someone talked to him behind the scenes cause I haven't heard of him doing that shit in a while.

>>48537125
Well, there it is, wrap it up boys.

>>48536656
>Aster is below THREE NijiKRs
Graduate this failure Anycolor. It's too grim to see him on the charts.

>>48537125
No chance against Shu birthday

>>48537229
They probably saw that clown homo managed to "succed" with minimal female interactions so they are trying to follow that route.
Either that or they are getting hard ignored kek.

>>48537229
Kiara probably talked to someone about it. She is very proud of her group.

>>48537229
Each of them besides Bettel have one instance of begging then they stopped after that, it's kind of funny. Idk if it's management or them realizing they flew too close to the sun but really they clearly thought they were gonna be in the same situation as Magni and Vesper right out the gate.

>>48537139
Compare the population of male weeb to female weeb

>>48537019
He's sound very white, probably burger spic immigrants.

i thought people said ina wasn't streaming?

>>48537229
Who knows. Its kind of funny that Tempiss 1 lucked out on some proper holo leeching but T2 never did. And Axel/Altare lost their leech targets with only ZE SKWAD remaining. If mori ever actually gets too busy/tired of le squad they're out too.

>>48537332
The only one I know is Redfag posting on Ina's 3D showcase and the spic, what did the others do?

>>48537312
why are the girls hate tempus2 more than tempus1?

>>48537357
Just shitposters. 3 POVs though, don't expect monster numbers and expect more shitposting later.

>>48537426
Hakka - tried to insert himself into holotori
Flayon - as you said
Shinri - retweeting art of him and Fauna (worst possible target lmao)

>>48537286
Shu’s countdown isn’t even beating Mori in the same timeslot

>>48537426
I think clownhomo had a couple interactions on twitter with mori and bae.
And i honestly dont know anything about the other guy, the guy is so forgettable i dont remember hes name

>>48537379
>Altare lost their leech targets
Was it because of this?

>>48537229
he didn't drop the bird shit that's for sure, some of his faggot fans keep calling him homotori there just isn't a lot of them.

>>48537497
>Shinri - retweeting art of him and Fauna
What? Is he an idiot?

>>48537162
He's probably thinking that Kaela is low energy, sound boring and have no problems to talk with homos.

>>48537497
>Shinri - retweeting art of him and Fauna
what the fuck lmao

>>48537168
Meloco was the one big PL? i must have missed something...

>>48537539
The only interaction i can remember is Mega Flygon replying to her getting hype and the new Guilty Gear character and her reaponding.

>>48537514
I assume he's gonna have a birthday stream in CN primetime with Luxiem in call.

>>48537497
It was the swapped costumes one right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZkLrIBejYU
ok, no one is getting 10k+ but I hope this is an 8k+ pov at least

>>48537497
>>48537609
>>48537669
Are you baiting me?
Did he actually do that? That sounds funny as shit, someone better have a screenshot.

>>48537616
He might of has a chance if he debut in gen 1. She kinda closed the homo door

>>48537704
Kobo too after Subaru police stream, he only replies to homocollabers

>>48537741
Ina can easily get 10k+ she was at 9k overlapped with Fauna.

>>48537497
>Shinri - retweeting art of him and Fauna
I must have missed this somehow

>>48537741
3 Pov. It'll be 6k.

>Yagoo accepted another a singer into EN3
IRyS is in deep shit if she’s a good streamer and unicorn friendly

I do feel bad for the new homos. Rushing them out while simultaneously telling them they can't do the same leeching behavior their predecessors did for growth seems like an overly cruel prank from management.

>>48537749
It's pretty much bait it was tempus and council switching outfits. It was pretty much harmless this thread just upset they think tempus prevented them from getting new girls

First gura now mori.
Why do they always pick ina for the tardwrangling

>>48537848
she's dutch isn't she?

>>48537856
Well, they're the leftover from the previous trash managements, don't think they any regrets now.

>>48537848
being unicorn friendly is the baseline
You need a personality to actually grow