/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48532376
In whose next gen though?

>>48532376
EN3? Idol Gen 2? Phase 3?

>>48532376
>I might occasionally wake up to see you again
Which corpos allow this?

>Chapipi
Wherever she goes she'll always have the Cyberlive turbogroomers chase after her

>Every remotely decent indie is joining HoloEN
>every clout chasing shitter and male is joining NijiEN

IT FUCKING HURTS

>>48532863
Hey stinky

>>48532863
uh
hololive?

snobaste on suicide watch

Holy shit she's got a real good voice. I would be pumped to have her join Holo, but I have a feeling they'd never want to let her REALLY shine with that voice and would just stick her in a bunch of cutesy shit that wastes it.
I really hope EN 3 has someone who's decent at an instrument that they can play for fun on stream sometimes like Luna occasionally does with her electone. Pls gib me a piano playing Holo.

>>48532822
She's a singer, why the fuck would she join Phase or Idol(change your name already)? NijiEN after all their drama and zero growth? I doubt it.

Hololive is the only one that makes sense if your focus is on music.

>>48532863
Hololive as long as you just use animated PNGs.

>>48532863
Ask Shondo, she'll be able to answer that

>>48532822
NijiEN Gamers

>>48532376
Everyone is quitting lately, it's not a sign they're all joining Hololive.

Just like with pikamee. She only gets fans when she says she is graduating. Fake fucks.

Chaps....

Maybe she just doesn't want to be a content creator anymore. Have you chucklenuts considered that?

>>48532863
None. It's a cope.

>>48533470
Considering the amount of drama and lack of support towards these content creators. Surely put people are finding out its time to put it up and not aim to be a Vtuber.

Goes to show you its a job worth not having nor is it satisfying,.

>>48532863
Hololive and Phase going by Mori and Pippa both being free to stream as their roommate or PL.

>>48532910
The last time HoloEN had new members was August of 2021 while NijiEN debuted 10 girls after that. Right now your points are pretty much reversed minus the the "remotely decent indie" depending on your point of view.

>>48532876
>She enters Hololive
>Suddenly all the groomers commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back 85 times and later they heads are smashed by a pipe, pic absolutely not related.

>>48532863
it's commonplace in Hololive to remain active on your alts

>>48533598
Pippa hasn't streamed on moth in a year. Lia tried to stream on her in October last year, but wasn't allowed to.

I'm guessing when they re-signed, they gave up the roommate flexibility in exchange for a pay raise

Is IRyS going to get a sister? Please save my nephilim...

>>48533640
Is she ID?

>>48533754
She's Dutch

>>48532376
Hey she's pretty good
Never heard of her before but if she sings like that on the regular she's HoloEN material for sure

>>48533754
Just peak her interest and that peafowl pussy hunter got your behind..... in both meanings of the word.

>people ask for EN3
>too much work, enjoy IRyS 2 instead
>then they announce homoEN3 a week later

>>48533707
If Chappi is really going to join Hololive, I hope she will be part of EN3 instead of VSinger project. One suffering girl is enough, there is no need for another

>>48533794
Oh god, then she won't be in HoloEN. Cover absolutely hate anyone from Europe.

>>48532822
And nijien still has someone who can sing well in every wave, good luck holofag

>>48532376
Wow, what a voice. I hope if she joins a corpo, I hope they really let her cut loose with her singing.

>>48533851
Mean for this >>48533231

>>48533078
Hololive hired a Vsinger, they mismanaged the fuck out of her to the point even she doesn't care about her music anymore.This is after Suisei almost graduated due to them mismanaging their other branch before shoving her in hololive.

>>48533851
Who can sing well in Obsydia? (Not even talking about the males / Luxiem since this girl is, well, a girl)

>>48533846
Like Kiara?

>>48532863
Kronii still pops up in streams on her PL so Hololive

>>48533970
Beside Selen, the other two already have multiple MV

>>48533978
she got the job while she was in japan

>>48533978
Yeah, the member of the first gen who was living in Japan when she was hired. Now tell me how many Europeans Cover hired after her.

>>48533851
Nijisanji only hires chinks now

>>48534021
Having multiple MVs and singing well aren’t mutually inclusive, anon

>>48533845
Irys admitted she wanted to be a streamer but got pulled as a Vsinger, does this girl want to make music?

>>48534021
Aster has a fucking MV, it doesn't make him a good singer.

>>48534154
Ironically, being a normal streamer in Hololive might be more helpful towards singing / making one’s own music than being one of Hololive VSinger given the way IRyS is managed

>>48534154
Really? I've watched all of her streams but I don't remember her mentioning that she preferred being a streamer over a singer - mostly that she just liked it more as time.

>t. ESTocrat that might've been half asleep and it didn't register.

>>48533707
Fuck that - holo vsingers is such a failed concept
Project Hope staff should be fired with prejudice (IRyS's manager going MIA for a week just the latest of their incompetence)
Every holo vsinger has floundered as a vsinger, and only truly became popular after they became "vstreamers"

>>48532376
Sounds happy for a change from her usual self deprecating personality. Based on her past corpo experience I would say she wouldn't join another mid corpo like Cyber ever again and its only Niji or Holo at this point.

>>48534147
Then what is the "focus on music" in hololive for EN? Do they even give Irys a solo live concert or something?

>>48532376
wave 8?

>>48532376
>fishman got rid of one ex-cyberlive talent for another one
BASED

>>48534360
niji don't allow PL stream.

>>48532376
Welp Holo got this in the Bag y'all, this also means EN3 is just around the corner

Crossing fingers the announcement is this 15th of May and Debut is last week of the month

>>48534265
Cover paid for the vsinger's music, whereas most covers and originals in Hololive come from their own pocket (unless it's a group song).

It's the reason you rarely see Covers and Originals with EN, aside from them not really knowing how to sing, it's an investment that isn't worth the price most of the time since Holocucks will just give you money regardless.

Join Holo or I don't care

>>48534350
Where's the NijiEN concert? All HoloEN members just performed on HoloFes and will have their own concert in July.

If she's Danish then Kiara will finally have someone to visit her...

Chapipi is probably leaving the hobby all together. She has been fading for the better part of 6 months. I doubt she would even get a look from a big group.

>>48534501
She's a hafu

does she have another channel with a bunch of music at least, everyone in council had good padding on their resumes this girls vtuber channels/twitter are literal who tier, showing talent is nice and all but based on council hires they do sift somewhat for having an established portfolio

She is gonna be in Idol Corp GUARANTEED

>>48532376
>Indonesian
ID4 confirmed

For any newfriends who are just hearing of Chapipi
Her jazz is sublime

Cry me a river https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2zFwUylYXc
Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend https://files.catbox.moe/in60b7.mp4
Desperado https://files.catbox.moe/350a6u.mp4

>>48534565
Try her main channel.

>>48534565
Bae...Fauna...G9

EN3 is never happening lmfao. keep coping. cover has completely given up on white women. hope you enjoy the new wave of nijislop, piggies.

>>48532376
Between her and Caitlin retiring their current personas HoloEN might go for a strong vocalist lineup with EN3
Have any other singing chuubas left recently? It would fit the trend of every EN generation having its own theme
>EN1
Wildcard generation, strong personalities and highly individualistic
>EN2
Coordinated to be a group of chill mostly wholesome girls
>EN3
A push for more musical talents and experienced singers

>>48534488
Coming soon even though it's not 3d but still a concert ? And what you just said is for the whole brand not focus on someone, a vsinger has to tie herself with the whole brand then it's not called focus

>>48534265
Yeah, even Azki has realized that now and is streaming more, but Irys legit said she would have prefered to be a Hologirl rather thana Vsinger, she makes music cause of obligation with a hint of pleasure, not as hardcore as mori or watame.

>>48534442
>Cover paid for the vsinger's music, whereas most covers and originals in Hololive come from their own pocket (unless it's a group song).
And you're hiding the in-between lines here. Yes, IRyS didn't pay a single cent for her songs, but she also has negative input in all of them with her managers controlling everything from the creative process to the producers with her being essentially a human vocaloid, and they're also the ones who control the release schedule and managed to drop 3 songs during her breaks last year, with one of them being uploaded on spotify with the Japanese title.

Its always funny how schizos invented a gen that doesnt exist in their heads

>>48534442
That’s true but the issues with how they have been managing their VSinger make you wonder if it’s really worth it, or if it’s better to be just a normal Holo streamer and funnel your income towards your songs instead.
Even Bae has enough money to get one original song out a year, not mentioning the more popular / richer Holos. Surely the cost, while high, isn’t that bad

>>48534603
https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Iekushi_Chapipi_Ch._VSinger_VTuber

>>48534621
Bae had portfolio of VA shit and some Covers
Fauna had a portfolio of ASMR shit
both also then dipped toes into vtubing/streaming meaning there was a little less to teach on top of portfolios.

En3 en3 en3, multiple vtubers already graduated and holofags still dream about EN3

>>48534621
Fauna was a 3view and sometimes 4view on twitch which actually made her the biggest Council hire streamwise. Also multiple ASMRs on her channel with over 1M views.

>>48534603
>>48533794
which is it?

>>48534757
She's a hafu, half dutch half indonesian.

Good candidate for ID4.

>>48534660
>Coming soon even though it's not 3d but still a concert
The fuck is this kind of cope? If someone wants to further their musical career they will obviously want to perform on the big stage and not in their live2D, so even if Cover is absolutely retarded and pretty much ghosted everyone who didn't have a dick between their legs last year Hololive is still the best bet for a musical career as a vtuber.

>>48533231
every time someone writes
>why the fuck would they join idol
they end up joining idol

I don't care where she goes I will just follow her. Simple as.

>>48534757
Indonesian ancestry but lives in the Netherlands. Fairly normal, as Indonesia used to be a dutch colony.

>>48533470
NO. VTUBER FOREVER.

>check her out sometimes
>she's playing waxworks
>legend of kyrandia
>michael jackson's moonwalker
>the blues brothers
Don't know if extremely based or stupid, these are games I played in the early 90s but atrocious choices for streaming
Unless she was aiming for the tfw no gamer gf mid-30 male audience

>>48534617
>Her jazz is sublime
>Cry me a river https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2zFwUylYXc
damn you weren't kidding she's amazing

>>48534800
>best bet for a musical career as a vtuber
Say this while the only successful vtuber in terms of music holoen has is FUCKING MORI, not even irys lmao

>>48534885
She's been nerfing herself hard because she listens to her groomers on groomcord. Fully expect her to have a secret discord server for the paypigs if she goes big.

>>48534757
https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi/status/1488088768796053508

>>48534904
Only Mori really gave a fuck about it, and IRyS is essentially a slave to Project:Hope. The other 8 HoloEN members never pushed for a musical career, with Gura being the next best thing but being too lazy to do anything.

>>48535007
Kiara dipped her toes in alot in her first year and some. But yeah theres not much like Mori even on the JP side theres just a few that are highly music oriented to that level.

>>48534904
NTA, but despite her relatively lower views (partly because of the management and her song views are split between YT and Spotify), all of IRyS’s EPs so far charted well upon releases. I’d call that a success, although it can indeed be better. Most actual artists wish they can chart upon new song releases

>>48533231
Idol offers a better deal though, especially up front. And they just hired Riro who was predominantly a music maker

>newfags missed the only time she was horny enough to do spicy asmr
as a silent lurker, I'll miss you chapi

how many times has graduations happened and nothing happened

>>48535301
That ASMR? All for me

>>48535328
This year alone? Dozens

>>48535281
ky0resu got scammed and is serving as a reminder that you get nothing in idol
imagine going from 500k subs to 150 ccv

>>48535328
We all just want some positive news for a change, anon. The Western VTubers scene has been fucked by drama followed by drama recently

>>48533851
I know, but if you're a singer why would you join them at this point?

>>48535435
Rin, on the other hand, is inclining hard, though

>>48535435
shes way too ESL and uninteresting in a single combo to sell as an EN chuuba

>>48535435
whatever she did streams on her twitch account her ccv was at 3digits too. she was never big streaming-wise

>>48535281
wouldnt the recent hire of Riro kinda negate the Idol chance. Chip would've def been hired over her for a pure singer role and hiring her as the next generic wave makes no sense.

>>48535496
not anymore
the freebie 300k subs that get handed by youtube for spamming shorts expired

>>48535435
If you follow her before Idol you would know her streams never had a big follow

>>48535466
Because en3 will never come out? And i replied to the guy Implying that if someone can sing then they will not choose niji

>>48533231
2 more weeks! EN3 for sure man you gotta beleeb me this time!

L2D CONCERT > HOLOSHIT EXPOFES

>>48532376
>they'll announce EN3 right after the Link Your Wish HoloFes to ride the 3D debut hype
>they'll announce EN3 right after ID3
>they'll announce EN3 right after Uproar, it's too crowded right now
>they'll announce EN3 on Golden Week, THE EN3 IS REAL
>they'll announce EN3 on June/July
>they'll announce EN3 right after Tempu-bahahahahha
>they'll announce EN3 right after summer, just you see
>they'll announce EN3 right after Council anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 right after Myth anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 on October, look at all those free days, they can even be horror themed
>they'll announce EN3 on November before the holiday season
>they'll announce EN3 right before HoloX's anniversary, trust the plan...
>they'll announce EN3 just before New Years, trust the PLAN
>they'll announce EN3 right after the new Tempiss gen no one asked for, TRUST YAGOO
>they'll announce EN3 before Our Bright Parade HoloFes, just think about the potential watchalong kino
>they'll announce EN3 right after HoloFes and both ID3 and Uproar anniversaries, y-you can't have a gen announcement on a Fes
>they'll announce EN3 this first week of April, the timing can't be more perfect
>they'll announce EN3 on either Golden Week, again, or the first week of May, again, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE, THE EN3 IS STILL REAL
.
.
<<<YOU ARE HERE>>>
.
.
>they'll announce EN3 right after the JP7/ID4 that just debuted on Golden Week finish their shilling month
>they'll announce EN3 right before the HoloEN concert for yet again another unfulfilled kino watchalong
>they'll announce EN3 on the HoloEN concert in LA, get hyped fellow EOPs
>they'll announce EN3 right after the Tempus anniversa-ahahahaha
>they'll announce EN3 after Council anniversary (2 YEARS WITHOUT A NEW GEN BTW)
>they'll announce EN3 after Myth anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 on October, look at all those empty weeks again, you gotta believe me this time
>they'll announce EN3 on November before the holiday season
>they'll announce EN3 on the actual fucking holiday season, just in time before ShilloX's 2nd Anniv
>they'll announce EN3 right after Tempiss 2 celebrates their anniversary that should have been EN3's in the first place
>they'll announce EN3 right before 2024 HoloFes so they can watch JP7 and maybe even ID4 show off their 3Ds, boy I sure wish they could have joined them, if only...
>they'll announce EN3 right before politicians and think tanks use chuubas as a scapegoat for the upcoming US elections
>they'll announce EN3 when...
>they'll announce EN3...
...
...
...

>>48536060
It's already Golden Week and there's no JP7 or ID4
You can move the YOU ARE HERE one slot down now

Also if the OP is to be believed it will be early june at the earliest since she won't graduate until the end of this month

Excellent taste Yagoo, now put the other dutch songstress in

I will be laughing my ass off when she debuts in HoloEN3 with a holoenstars1/irys 1.0 quality model way worse than her current cyberlive one

>>48536493
I don't know who that is but let her keep that model.

>>48532376
Holy shit she got a a cover of Suisei's Stellar stellar.

>>48536493
I'd rather see her be successful as an indie.
Not sure what her content would even be like as a Holo, permissions would likely be a nightmare for her considering the games she plays and songs she sings.

>>48536623
She's an OL IRL and a magical girl vtuber. Similarly an amazing live singer.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5-bQjx4rux0

>Idol EN gen 2 debuts in May
>Chip's final stream on May 24th
There's only 7 days left on the calendar for Idol to even be possible. Idol also likely finalized Gen 2 by Apr 20th based on their own pinned tweet which means Chip should have already announced and delivered her final stream before then. The odds of her being in Idol is astronomically low and Holo3 is a meme. The only realistic corpo that keeps pumping out new talents regularly is Niji and is by far the overwhelming favorite.

>>48533754
She's an ID living in Dutch
The product of Dutch-Indo colonial history.

>>48533357
>Last game stream was 5 months ago
>Join Gamers gen
Are you guys that desperate to get anyone good?

>>48536980
She's been streaming them on Twitch

>>48535989
The cope is strong in this one.

>>48536665
Link?

Perhaps she's just doing something more productive with her time. She's a bit of a charisma void, not surprising she always languished, during and after the Cyberlive times.

>>48537122
https://youtu.be/dYsE6TKBtDg

>>48534372
LOL, LMAO even, Lumi is a cancer to anyone that was part of Cyberlive, nobody from there is joining until she's gone

>>48532376
Is she white?

>>48532376
Her voice is nice....... pls tell me she doesnt have BF yabs so i can give her a chance when she becomes Holo~

>>48536889
Are you retarded? It's very common practice for them to know they got in for a while but not announce their final stream until right before they get into the corpo, so as not to arouse suspicion. Just for example, Fulgur's final stream was literally a day or two before his debut. Worked too because people were denying it was him even though it was.
I wouldn't mind if she got into Nijisanji but anything is possible if she wants to throw people off.

If her last stream ends at the end of May, EN3 debuting in June to do watchalongs of the EN concert would be good timing.

>>48536870
nina has so much music on yt and I keep seeing this posted to shill her. Starting to wonder if all the ninashills are the same poster.

>>48532863
Idol let Riro debut while openly having her old identity associated with her new one.

>>48532376
singing reminds me of a maid loli dragon.

>>48537265
Pfft. No.

>>48537863
Much better.

>>48537504
You'd have to be the retarded one to think Idol is the favorite by your logic. Chip's singing literally MOGS Riro and she was hired as the vsinger for the corpo. It would be a terrible look to have Chip in a general Wave 2 outperforming Riro as the dedicated vsinger just a few months after Riro just debuted.

>>48532376
So we have her and yfu. Does this mean en3 will be a singer gen?

Holobeggars absolutely pathetic as usual
>>48533357
>>48537061
Gamers wave imply being at least competent at games. Go watch Chapi play anything that isn't turn based
>>48534550
Anyone who focuses only on their paypigs and ignores the rest of their community is asking for this to happen

>>48538476
seems like a common idea >>48534646

>>48536060
ID gen 4

>>48535281
Idol offers a better deal if you don’t like money. The moment your first month passes you make way more money in Hololive and Nijisanji. Granted if you end up a shitter in niji it’s not as much as hololive but still pretty good. But overall there’s no better deal than more money and you could stream 1 time a week if you so choose with Hololive

>>48538476
Please god, and hopefully with Project:Hope being nuked so that IRyS can manage her own music without some retard thinking ESL written songs are any good.

So EN3 or ID4?

>>48534067
Hololive have had only one additional EN generation since Kiara, you numpty.

>>48532376
Probably Niji's next wave

>>48532376
Good pickup if true

>>48533598
Uh, nobody ever thought you couldn't be a fleshtuber and a vtuber. Hololive is full of those. The actual taboo is being two vtubers and off the top of my head only Kronii and Fauna have done that but in those examples they deliberately do not use their vtuber model in the other persona and just the voice. I'm pretty sure no competent company allows you to be two vtubers. The only company I know of that allows it is VShojo because of Rushia.

>>48532376
She's a boring 2view now and she'll be a boring 2view in whatever small corpo picked her up.

>>48539042
ID4 probably because >>48534788

Good for her because she is talented for a good corpo but shame it'll be holoID irrelevancy.

>>48539941
HoloID is a far more legitimate branch than EN. EN is barely Stars-tier.

>>48539784
I'm pretty sure kson still used her vtuber model every once in a while during her time in Holo
can't think of anyone else though

>>48539160
Even the homos are all Americans or Canadians with one Aussie and one Latino who I'm pretty sure also lives in the US.

>>48532376
BOCCHI THE ROCK GEN IS REAL

>>48540305
Starring YFU Baby as Bocchi

>>48539941
Did she even stream in Indonesian any?

>>48540058
Indonesian management will treat her a lot better than EN management ever would, she can hit up Reine for contacts with ID producers and artist to create high quality content and songs.

>>48540528
no

>>48540528
She admitted to not even being close to fluent

>>48532910
>every clout chasing shitter and male is joining NijiEN
Lol, guess you're new to HoloEN.

>>48532376
Ehhh? that's a big target, could it be? did she really make it?

>>48540305
I will forgive Cover for the bullshit they did in 2022 if they can get an actual band gen.

Don't know why you guys think singers won't join NijiEN when companies/events sponsor them all the time to sing songs in concerts or make an original song for them. Even though the songs are a bit mid
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btCTJTjS6i8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzthXCWXV9w

>>48532376
I'm already subscribed to her but I forgot who the fuck is she

>>48533962
>>48533078
Suisei wasn’t mismanaged by hololive it was INNK. (i think thats the initials)
Only vsingers owned by the company has music handled for them IF you can’t make your own music. AzKI makes her own music and has input on the songs they give her as well. I mean you’re completely ignoring Myth and Council they all sing songs they want or nothing at all.

>>48534269
She said she likes streaming more than she realized she would. She wanted to join the next auditions don’t think she specified language and then she saw the vsinger auditions which she thought was perfect.

It doesn’t matter if you consider her songs bad or not she’s not flopping. All her eps and singles sell thousands one of them was 20k I believe so yea it’s doing fine. Better music would still make it better

>>48542068
>Only vsingers owned by the company has music handled for them IF you can’t make your own music
IRyS can't even release a cover she wants to do because of her managers for a song 4 other Hololive members covered already (5 if you count the Stars). IRyS doesn't have music handled to her, she's forced to sing the bullshit Project:Hope dumps on her and she can't even promote it properly because the retards keep releasing her songs during her breaks and without MVs.

>>48534311
Have you ever decided to look up IRyS or Azki’s physical and digital music sales? Let me give you an example Sora’s songs rarely break a million on youtube but they sell 10k+ sometimes way more. It’s why none Azki and Sora never get jealous or why they haven’t scrapped Irys. The albums range from $15-60 so give them a conservative number of 100 sales. Even at the cheapest $15 that’s 1500 which on YouTube would be about 10 million views give or take. Biggest difference is 10 million in 1 year is essentially $100 a month vs 100 sales in 1 month is $1500.

There are cuts so they probably don’t get much out of it but it’s definitely profitable for the company

>>48532376
CHAPIPI!! HOLO EN 3 PLS!!! IDOL GEN 2 IS ALSO ACCEPTABLE!!

>>48533231
I hope this is not a No EN 3 copium-fueled post.

>>48542787
First off she’s not the only vsinger second I was talking originals. Also irys has done 3 regular covers, 3 or 4 holo covers, and multiple features on covers. It’s closer to irys is so fragile they won’t let her do too many covers as that will get in the way of money.

>>48543271
She's the only current member that is advertised as a vsinger, and her last solo cover was almost a year ago. Also the fuck is this fragile shit when she literally sang the song she wanted to do an official Cover on karaoke? If they don't want to overload her then they should slow down the amount of shitty originals they throw on her lap and have those songs go through a more thorough quality check process so we don't get shitty ESL songs, not to mention trying to release those singles with a fucking MV and not during her breaks so she can promote it properly.

>>48542805
There's a difference between holo songs selling well and "vsinger" being less successful than "vstreamers" in holo
Suisei is the greatest example of how relatively unsuccessful Cover's official vsinger projects have been

>>48533357
That wave is supposed to be all-male.

>>48532376
I liked chimpspipi, one of the best CLs IMO. I'd be happy with whatever she winds up doing.. as long as it isn't nijiEN.

>>48542949
Considering how utterly-impossible EN3 feels and how idol EN is an upstart that's on the upswing but not too pretentious/hard to get into (nijiEN recruitment seems to care mostly about how many subs your PL had), it would make sense for that.

Also, remember Phase Connect is having more invaders at minimum, it'd be funny if she wound up reuniting with Lumi there soon. IIRC chaps was one of the few non-Yuri girls that Lumi was still cool with after all was said and done.

>>48544264
>Indefinite hiatus
>Invaders
why would she?

>>48534660
holycope that fucking concert isn't a real concert lmao and it's for the SEA kek

>>48533357
Let go bro... it's never happening...

>>48533231
Succumb to Idol.

>>48547323
How did the gamers wave rrat even became a thing?

>>48532376
>Two more weeks!
>Trust the plan!
Man, just let it go. I wish EN3 would be real, but is not. Better swallow that hard pill and stop dreaming.

>>48547653
I don't think it's any time soon. Fall is the nearest date I could see it happen.

>>48547726
Nah, I absolutely refuse to believe Cover is fine debuting EN3 two fucking years after Council. Fall is ID4's stage while early Summer already has the big EN concert and it would be too retarded to not take advantage of it and drop an EN3 in mid/late Spring.

>>48547469
That it's canceled or was a thing? About 8 to 9 months ago they requested applications from men for an all male gamer wave. The previous applications request is what the last two waves are from. As of now it has been 9 months since iLuna and 4 months since the last wave and about a month ago there was an application request. So people can only assume the Gamer Wave is dead in the water.
https://www.nijisanji.jp/en/news/7r-5zlk8o

>>48548198
I didn't know it was an actual thing that Anycolor announced, but I thought they would be more specific in what kind of "gamer" they're looking for.

>>48548875
You can check the application if the link still works. They are (were) looking for competitive multiplayer orientated streamers.

>>48548942
Nope, it doesn't work. Did they specify which kind of game or just general competitive mp? Also I don't get why nijifags want this so much when it would be a bunch of dudes who play Apex/Valorant/zoomer shooters and there's enough of them already in the industry.

>>48532863
Idol lets you stream on your roomates account, but hiatus date doesnt really match up to en2 debuts.

>>48532376
This is like her 3th hiatus
As entertainer she was just never good

>>48535281
>>48538809
its not just money, Hololive offers a bigger stage too, a bigger place to show your abilities, a bigger fanbase, a healthier work environment, and just plain better opportunities that come with it . Idol offering a better a deal is bullshit, and they can't offer a better one, even if they offered to pay for your avatar and give you the ip. Its a small corpo, the status between the 2 is just different, and any argument eitherwise is just cope when a spot in Hololive is a golden ticket.

>>48534550
She barely fucking streamed in these 6 months, also living in the netherlands but streaming at a retarded time for both EU and the US so you get garbage exposure because she stop working at something like 10pm cet at times

>>48549485
Jealous femoid detected

>>48550097
She streamed several times a week for the most part. Did you somehow miss that she moved most of her streams to twitch?

>>48550353
She kept cancelling streams or delay them, at some point it was simply too hard to keep following on top of the fact that her stream were generally very boring

>>48549352
>Did they specify which kind of game or just general competitive mp?
They just wanted you to list what sort of game you're into.
>Also I don't get why nijifags want this so much
It's pretty much a meme at this point.

>>48544264
Yeah bro hololive will never make another en gen ever! Even though it's a significant revenue stream. It's because some guy said Mori doesn't reach 10k viewers last stream and that's how cover knows en is dead bro yeaahhh.
Tempus really did bring in the dumbest fucking retarded fat ugly women to /vt/.
You idol fans aren't far off. I've seen you kikes in every thread trying to hype idol gens like hololive gens. You can fuck right off with that hasbara shit.

>>48533231
>why the fuck would she join the corpos that are actually hiring
sure anon, keep on believing in EN3

>>48552714
Nta but she would fit ID4 better than EN3.

>>48553015
>speaks 0 indo
Yeah sure.
But she is probably just quitting

>>48553209
Oh she speaks zero indo? Shame.

Idolen been group is coming in May

>>48537233
Threadreader-kun, stop pretending to know things. You are confusing the newfriends with your nonsense.

>>48532376
Ok i heard her voice she is actually preety fucking good hope she makes it, also seems to have discord groomers but i think holo can fix that easily

>>48536493
have they ever collabed before

>>48557533
no, but they've raided each other

>>48539784
Phase at least used to allow streaming on PL, but they might have changed that.

>>48549934
Obviously everyone would choose Holo over a small corpo, but that's only if EN3 (A) actually exists and (B) is still hiring

>>48532376
>>48532822
Hololive EN Project singer 2
Rival to IRyS

>>48553970
He's not wrong. Lumi poisons everything she touches

it's hilarious how aruvn broke NDA by leaking that he got into nijisanji by leaking to his friends. the whole group got drop from what I understand, I wonder if this girl was apart of that group.

>>48532376
i'm an outside but no one knows what happens to chapipi and EN3 doesn't make sense.

i wish i could keep track of these musical talented vtubers, they fade, delay, or are in hiatus.

i'm just glad that i stumbled upon musical talented vtubers, even those ITT

i dont think chapi can do well in big corpo.
she has an ok voice sure but very poor content creator records and her stream vods are low energy too
Doubt she got in Hololive

>>48537763
I just link it because people >here like the biggest numbers, simple

>>48563356
nahone, fair enough

>>48532863
I remember Millie occasionally tweeted on her pl, so maybe niji?

I wonder how it feels to be a vtuber and you announce a graduation, then suddenly dozens/hundreds of extreme level autists start theorycrafting what you, the person they literally had no idea existed until a minute ago, are going to and should do next, while others start working on combing through your socials for rrats, yabs, and day 1 debut doxxing

>>48564174
"Hibernation"
"indefinite hiatus for the most part"
"I will be seeing you again"

Where the fuck does it say she's quitting flat out? Reading between the lines that hard?

>>48564174
HoloEN, and allowing SEA to have access to the internet, were both massive mistakes with far reaching consequences.

I only remember her being heavily shilled as the amazing opera singer but then I tried listening and found out she's actually painfully mediocre.

>>48540100
azki roommate use vtuber model, many use 2d image

>>48536493
Imagine the off-collabs

For people saying that her last stream doesn't match with Idol EN2 debut, remember that for EN1 and STAR (don't remember with HE) first trailer was for another trailer and debuts were a bit later than initial date.
There is also this new PixelLink corpo, they are supposed to debut this spring, their poster girl is even "hacker".
I'd just stalk snobaste's twitter for her reincarnation.

>>48532376
Sad. Good singer tho

>>48553435
She's dutch, she doesn't speak filthy colonial languages

>>48553435
She listed bahasa among the languages she knew on debut.

>>48532376
Idol gen 2

>>48549934
All true but the ENs are just coasting KEK
Only Kiara and Mori are still on their grind, rest are just there to chill. Although the rat has been pretty active on the JP side lately.

>>48532376
I mean her singing is quite nice, but she's a really boring streamer otherwise.

>>48540305
Interesting

>>48573621
perfect for Hololive

>>48532376
looking forward to seeing where she ends up

>>48563261
>very poor content creator records and her stream vods are low energy too
just like half of HoloEN!

>>48536493
I wonder if Cover would ever let another Suisei ever happen. At this point for EN they're either betting on 2/low 3view indies or non-vtubers content creators because in they long ass time they took to even start thinking about an EN3 a bunch of indies managed to find their own audience and probably won't gain much from HoloEN outside of the 3D streams. Maybe Cover should just accept it that some will only accept their contract if they don't need to completely rebrand themselves.

>>48573621
She had pretty good ideas once in a while desu like this karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQLEbFMl5es
Chuubas in general underappreciate the power of presentation

>>48573621
her singing is very overated by her groomers too.

>>48581807
Literally everything is overrated for you people.

Chaple.. no...

I hope chapips ended up somewhere nice, she deserves the world

>>48580663
>won't gain much from holo en
Are you people crazy?
Having 500k subs before you even speak is not much? Having access to management who aren't completely retarded? Record deals? Models made by famous Japanese mangaka way out of most people's budget paid for and rigged for free? Access to a network of some of the most famous vtubers on the planet and a company with the most experience in setting them up? Constant merch drops? Actual concerts with live performances to massive audiences which are sold out almost instantly?
>won't gain muxh
Sometimes I genuinely wonder how dumb you guys are. En3 looks to have at least 2 music performers in it if the op is right. Can you imagine going from performing to less than a hundred people to performing to a live audience of 10s of thousands of people not even mentioning the people online watching? And being there just because you got into hololive? Imagine working your ass off streaming to 10 people on twitch then breaching a million subs and performing on stage to die hard fans.
It's crazy how much people downplay how massive a hololive invitation is for someone's career.

>>48583879
>Having 500k subs before you even speak is not much?
>Having access to management who aren't completely retarded? >
>Models made by famous Japanese mangaka way out of most people's budget paid for and rigged for free?
You should try being less obvious, anon.

>>48585374
Take your meds schizo freak.

>>48581915
He's not wrong in this case, Chapipi can sing decently well but she puts nowhere near enough practice in.

>>48583879
>and rigged for free
The issue is that the rigging also looks like it was free.

Everyone I followed is gone LETS GOOO

>>48532376
Good for her. She triggered my saviorfag instincts and I'm glad to be rid of them.

>>48532376
>I couldn't save her

>>48585534
Hit a nerve?

>>48585374
Is that guy even wrong, though? Merely being part of HoloEN give you access to the Holobox, which is way bigger group of audience than what most indies can get, and with that, comes tons of benefits.
The weakest HoloEN member (including Sana before) never felt below a median of 3k viewers. More than half of them are above 5k. How many indies around can consistently get that level of viewership?
All of IRyS' EPs, as mismanaged as she might be, still charted well upon release, which is what 99% of artists - actual artists - can only dream of. Even her songs, as "weak" as they might be compared to giants like Suisei or Mori, still got plenty of 500k+ / 1M+, with the top being 6M+ views in total. Try heading over to /vsinger/ and see how many indies around can reach that level even though their skills might not lose to IRyS
Then you throws in things like merchs (ranging between dozen thousands to hundreds for EN) and concerts, and I'm not sure how anyone can argue that joining Holo wouldn't be a massive boost to most indie VTubers

>>48583879
> En3 looks to have at least 2 music performers in it if the op is right
I would be astonished if the OP was right in this case; their recruiters would have to be seeing some very deeply hidden potential.

>>48596603
Moving out of Vocoid garbage into actual music would legitimize the music side of Cover's interests. People like Chapipi could do that.

Moving out of Vocaloid garbage into actual music would legitimize the music side of Cover's interests. People like Chapipi could do that.

>>48595335
And you're ignoring everything else that comes with this fast success. The problem with your argument is that you're still living in 2020 when the ceiling for indies was much lower than it is today and you could count on your hands the amount of them who managed to break the 1k viewers mark. Nowadays indies are much bigger and can easily live off streaming for a long time, so what they gain by becoming Holomem? Yeah, they will be more popular but with that newfound popularity they lose the ability to control their branding, having to use whatever model with whatever rigging Cover throws at them with varying degrees of success, and have to change their content due to Japanese bureaucracy so if they're a retro gamer for example they will be forced to stop using emulators, which the absolute majority of them do, and either have to rely on re-releases of old games which often plays worse than emulation or have the actual consoles and games to play it, which can be prohibitively expensive and those platforms are notorious for being a bitch to capture footage requiring even more expensive specialized equipment. Another example would be the one discussed, Nina, who is well known for covering a bunch of western songs, which she would be instantly forced to stop doing because of music industry autism related to Japan. Also using IRyS as an example doesn't help your argument when she's pretty much a slave for Project:Hope and doesn't have any input in her songs, so even if they're more successful than what the majority of musicians out there can get for them to not be allowed to make their own music is worse than not being popular. All in all the success that the blue dorito brand gives you doesn't come without a healthy amount of caveats that many won't overlook anymore considering today's scene, so my proposition was that Cover should at least consider doing something similar that they did with Suisei if they're interested in hiring some of the more popular indies because this will be the only way they'll be able to even negotiate with them.

>>48597325
Complete schizo post. Imagine thinking that the average indie is competing with hololive. I ain't reading all that drivel either you stupid bitch.

>>48597084
Hiring vocal talents is only step one to solving that issue
There's also the problem of HoloEN working with garbage tier music production studios for their originals
EN already has some decent singers but they are all underutilized

>>48590597
Don't give up!

>>48597630
Not that anon and it isn't quite what he said, but the point isn't that indies are competing with Hololive. It's that these days, indies can reach a level where they're comfortable enough to the point where Hololive wouldn't be that much of an upgrade for them.

>>48597325
Well, firstly, how high are indies' ceiling nowadays? That wasn't a sarcastic or rhetoric question, I'm serious. If we are to take a look at numberfags' table, there were only 10 EN Indies (9 actually, since one of them is Neuro) on Twitch reached 2k average on Twitch. There are even fewer on YT because of their dumb number culling and how the algorithm works. On the other hand, there are dozens thousands indies around outside of those 10-ish VTubers - 99.99% of them don't get anywhere near 1k mark. That's how many that can get a lot of profit from simply being part of Hololive.
Moreover, the limitations you brought up are true. After all, Sana supposedly graduated because she wanted to focus on, and streams Arknights after all. There are also Shondo (just bringing her up since I just saw her shitpost on the catalog) who flat out said that she doesn't want to join either Hololive, Niji or VShojo because it will affect her kind of contents. However, how many of those dozens thousands indies share that mindset? How many will prefer keeping their "brand" (most of them don't even have one to begin with) over way higher income, fame, and popularity? I don't think it's more than a few dozens, perhaps a hundred at most, desu. Even NijiEN who has similar conditions to HoloEN, but less benefits, had no issue whatsoever to find new members - do you think Cover will actually have any issue looking for 5 indies to turn into stars if they need to? If they won't, why should they change part of their conditions?
Ultimately, it's like how a lot of IT devs can live well being freelancers, but most of them would still join FAANG at the first chance if they can. Just because there are some (emphasis on "some", since it's not like it's that many) indies who can make a living of it on their own doesn't mean most indies wouldn't profit from, and love to join corpos (be it HololiveEN or NijisanjiEN)

>>48598690
I do agree with your point but I'm going by the theory that Cover wasn't able to find good picks for an EN3, which doesn't hold any substantial ground but it's the more positive theory than they just ignoring any female applicant for the better part of 2022. There's an infinite amount of barely known indies and content creators to the point Cover can easily make multiple gens out of them, but if they do have these absurdly high standards coverdrones love to say then they won't find anything of quality unless they're willing to hire the successful indies like they did with Suisei, otherwise they're stuck betting on finding gold on a sea of what is probably mostly mediocre to sometimes bad streamers.

>>48600173
Literally /lig/ itself is fucking STACKED with talent, scouting isn't that hard

>>48598690
>how high are indies' ceiling nowadays
there are 17 above 2k per >>48490228

it all just falls back to >>48580663
of course 2views can benefit being in hololive, but can hololive really benefit from them?
At this time and age Cover would be better off digging for non-vtubers, who may actually have the chance of expanding the audience or bringing variety to the stale content pile

>>48600606
Streaming is far from a perfect meritocracy, there are bound to be talented people or those with good potential amongst the unnoticed mass that makes up the large majority of indie vtubers.
but I do agree getting people from outside too would be wise. no point taking everything from the same well if you have other options.

>>48600231
I'm not saying there's no talent out there, but it's been 16 months since the open auditions started and almost 21 months since Council's debuts. Either Cover didn't find anyone who interests them or they straight up ignored anyone without a dick between their legs for the entirety of 2022, and while the latter theory is the most likely it's also absurdly depressing to think that they actually did that.

>>48532758
HoloEN's next Vsinger. Not a part of any gen, just a solo drop like IRyS.

>>48541015
Literally only one memeber of all of HoloEN is a clout chaser and she got everything she asked for. A multi-year/multi-album contract, contacts in the industry, and attention on her other gig she'd been floundering at for over a decade.

>>48601015
They should reach out to people then

>>48601586
The "Every remotely decent indie is joining HoloEN" line still doesn't many any fucking sense when the last time the branch got new members was in August of 2021.

>>48598499
Who? Which indy? Like what the fuck are you talking about? Because fillian is doing well that means the average indies are doing better? Are you fucking stupid? What is wrong in your dumb fucking head? Indies have just as shit a time now as before. Go on twitch and count how many Indies are under 10 viewers then how many are over a thousand. Just going to prove what I originally said about how retarded you fucks are. Hololive is a golden ticket for 99.999999999% of indie vtubers.

>>48590597
You still can

>>48606578
It was the dream for literally everyone back in 2020, now vtubers are more desensitized to hololive, it's of course a golden ticket but taking into account the lack of transparency on auditions and if there's even a chance to begin with nowadays you can actually find alternatives like joining small corpos which have never had as many viewers as of the last couple of months (if that's what you care about) along many other benefits depending which you're looking for

>>48532376
She's amazing. It would be great if she truly joined EN3

>>48607097
What non sensical answer is this? What are you trying to even say?
>vtubers don't dream about joining hololive anymore
Wrong you stupid fuck.
>no transparency about auditions
Wrong you dumb bitch. Auditions are open or closed. You don't know the context and contact that cover has with auditioners they want. Just cuz you applied and got ghosted just means you lost lol.
>it's better to join alternatives instead of hololive
You are so fucking dumb. If someone was given the choice between a chance at a hololive en place they would put that over a firm contract from any company in the business. The fact you don't know this only further outlines you as a dumb bitch.
>small corpo is just as good as hololive
If you actually believe this you're a coping stupid fuck.
That's 4 for 4 you idiot fag. Read a fucking book and stop being clinically retarded your whole life bitch.

If you still think CCV is everything, then there is no point in continuing this further.

>>48607428
>You don't know the context and contact that cover has with auditioners they want. Just cuz you applied and got ghosted just means you lost lol.
Then why there's no EN3 16 months after the start of the open auditions? Or why they took 13 months to remind people about it?

>>48558810
HoloEN VSingers shoulve been a gen

>>48532863
Lemonleaf did this for Shondo's Bday stream.
https://youtu.be/hGcutchEBGk?t=13106

>>48532863
All of them

>>48608422
Definitely and if you ever thought that subs are everything, then you shouldn't be viewed as a human.

>>48534603
>...talking English.
It's speaking English, ESLs.

>>48532376
This feels like IdolEN

>>48540305
dyrbi?

>>48533962
INNK was a self admitted shitshow and the frog who was running it apologized to both Suisei and Azki for his incompetence when he was leaving.

>>48609342
Because they decided (dumbly) to focus on the Homos instead? No way homos would have survived (if their current state can be considered alive) if they had to compete with a new EN female gen upon debut (Yagoo himself also said, upon being asked about JP7 before, that they don't want to debut a new gen before previous gen can stand on their own)

>>48625085
If they wanted to focus on the homos so much they should've just posted auditions for StarsEN and be more direct with it. Instead they made the auditions for EN open giving the idea they were looking for female talent as well but here we fucking are, 16 months after that without a single new debut under HoloEN, thus the absolute lack of transparency related to the auditions. Also my lifespan is getting shorter the more I see people comparing JP with EN when one has 35 members while the other barely has 10.

>>48619091
I was thinking the same, idol is known to scout talents that have been shilled /here/ before like with Rin and they confirmed that each gen will have at least 2 spots secured for scouted talents. I could see them kidnapping chip after seeing her mentioned in /jidf/ multiple times in the past but we'll see soon enough what it'll be

>>48625432
Anon, they have announced that they'd be running rolling audition like JP a long time ago. The audition will always be open. Having open audition no longer means they are looking to get a new gen in any fixed period / near future
That doesn't mean there isn't any transparency. They will still contact any candidate they like to inform them they are shortlisted for whenever they want to get a new gen. That's how it works in JP, too

>>48626393
They might as well could've ignored every single female audition video because they were interested in tempus at the moment these auditions were opened. You don't know, in fact no one knows what happened, in an ideal world they should be carefully checking every single audition video and looking around the vtuber community for possible scouting victims but we already know their management is incompetent and this didn't happen

>>48626393
And the likely scenario here is that they turned down everyone because they were more interested in pushing 8 homos instead of hiring 5 new girls. I don't remember if the open auditions for JP started before or after Gen 4, but either way they ended up giving at least one new gen in less than a year after they started, meanwhile the EN one resulted in fuck all in over a year unless you count the dudes as something.

>chapi
>ID4
Ah yes, the indo hafu that has seen indonesia once or twice in her life that can only ask "where is the toilet?" in her ancestor language is a candidate for HoloID.

>>48536060
they will never learn

>>48626778
Yeah, that's probably what happened. As much as >we might dislike it, the homos were probably counted as a gen by EN management - still not part of Hololive, btw.
After all, if they had to compete with some newly debuted EN3, there'd be no chance that they could have grown any little bit and they might have turned into 2-3views even sooner. Would've been even bigger waste of investment.

>>48536493
Could it happen?

>>48624850
>the frog who was running it apologized to both Suisei and Azki
good

>>48631302
Nina would benefit from it since she wants to go full time but her current numbers can't support that. Also it would help her a lot on the music side since that is one of her main goals.
Of course the question is if she would want to leave her indie friends since she's pretty attached to them and of course if she'd pass the auditions.

>>48532910
>Every remotely decent indie is joining HoloEN
>More than 18 months since last female debuts

>>48632591
>Every remotely decent indie is joining IdolEN
fixed

>>48533706
NotPippa hasn't been since September, whenever the WondersAI stuff started.

Lia was going to stream but was talked out of it as it was clear she was trying to get around the "no CWC part 2" order from fishman. I don't know if she was offered a financial incentive or anything, or maybe they promised they could do CWC later on.

>>48532863
a few

>>48598175
never

>>48533231
Hololive? It is always the talent that pays for everything, every corpo is the same.

>>48640772
Why did you lie?

>>48628762
Nowadays they barely share an audience with HoloEN outside of mixed collabs. You can see their numbers barely moving a dent whenever they overlap with the girls which means they managed to find their own audience. It's a smaller one compared to Hololive's but it's there, so honestly I doubt that if Cover did the actual right thing and made Tempus a 6 man gen like they initially intended and debuted EN3 later in 2022 or early 2023 the homos wouldn't be able to get the same audience.

>>48632355
The chances of her not passing the auditions are astronomically low unless Cover really couldn't give a shit about hiring more girls for EN or they're still doing the bullshit of hiring based on the model and somehow none of the 5 they currently have fit her. HoloEN desperately needs a new musically focused member when the current choices are Mori who keeps spamming half-baked songs without any thought, IRyS who's straight up a slave to whoever manages Project:Hope and Kiara and Rrat who aren't bad but take too long to release new stuff, and the rest who's either too lazy, too busy or just couldn't give a shit.

>>48644827
You know there's another very likely reason she wouldn't pass the audition. Hololive is allergic to Europe.

>>48644976
There are limits to their Euro-allergy and if they really willing to pass on her then they should just close the branch. Fortunately it seems that HoloEN changed leadership in the last few months, hopefully resulting in the vtweeter being fired, so maybe the new people in charge aren't that averse to hiring people from Europe and Chapipi is one of the EN3 members.

>>48537763
I like that one but for me its her cover of Snake Eater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovhIAhcBHqc

>>48645419
Always makes me smile to see people call them covers as I associated the word "cover" with a produced product not a live performance. That's how good she is.

>>48534265
Even Azki is better off in the main branch nowadays instead of being labeled as an odd one out in her own branch

>>48625774
Really? If so I'm glad to know at least 1 corpo out there is committed to scouting

>>48573468
Just saying, if you consider only Kiara and Mori to be working hard, the you're also calling most of JP lazy too. There are other ENs who stream more than the majority of JPs too.

>>48536889
woah its actually not impossible

>>48536493
Would rather she find success as an indie. Perms would be a real issue for her and she wouldn't be able to post the live covers on her channel anymore. She's definitely good enough to be in a large corpo though.

>>48650378
In fact I would say it's almost confirmed now. Timing lines up too well.

>>48650378
>>48650733
Cover once again letting a good Euro candidate slip. At this point they should just rename HoloEN to HoloAmerica/Australia.

>>48645121
>Chapipi is one of the EN3 members
She's Indonesian. Holo ID announced their auditions on Feb 1st 2023 and closed them on Feb 28. I've also seen info stating that the audition is divided into 3 parts, and the first part is "document screening" after which participants that pass will be contacted in 2 weeks. ID talents pool is way smaller than global (English) and Japanese pools, so screening/interviews could potentially be conducted in 2 months time. Just based on that, I'm willing to say that the chances of her going to HoloID4 are huge, but I am yet to see any EN3 signs of life, and with Idol new gen coming out soon, I just don't see enough good indies who could fill the shoes of the new English group that's supposed to revitalize the branch.
If - and that's a big if - she audition for EN3, which may or may not come soon, Cover would have to be stupid not to grab her and debut her as soon as possible in whichever gen (ID4/EN3) comes first.

>>48652204
Sorry anon, you were to slow. We already figured out she's probably in idolEN gen 2

>>48652204
Everyone in this thread is saying that she's only part-Indo, barely knows the language and doesn't even live there. Makes 0 sense for her to apply for HoloID when I'm pretty sure the auditions say you have to live there, unlike HoloEN who accepted 3 people who live/were living in Japan. Not to mention ID4 won't be a thing until later this year if we take into account how long it took for ID3 to debut after the audition period ended, and this >>48650378 lines up way too well with her announced hiatus.

>>48652326
I'm not saying that she can't be in IdolEN2. I just think that if she's going to debut as a Hololive member, then it most likely gonna be ID4 instead of EN3.

>>48650378
>Source: my twitter fat ass
that could be anyone and not someone who go hiatus in just a week

>>48653693
Her joining idol is infinitely more likely then her joining HoloEN or ID. If not idol then Phase Gen 3

>>48654274
>Source: my wet schizo dreams
She will be on EN after the concert.

>>48654623
Could be both. The timing of her hiatus matches the day Idol will drop the EN2 trailer, however if we take into account when the homos announced their retirement/graduation/hiatus it was around 2-ish months before their debuts, so she could end up being in EN3 but only if Cover got over their Euro-allergy which currently looks really unlikely.

Chapipi I'll keep watching you wherever you go