/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48511791

keep up your enthusiasm until the very end

>>48511791
>pic done by nsfw artist
>looks 100% like a censored nsfw pic
>there is no nsfw version

vshojo after Mouse leaves

>>48511888
This sucks enthusiastically!

lining up every single vshojo chibi and using them as onaholes consecutively

>>48511888
>until the very end
so next monday

>>48511983
Mouse is only one i watch now and i hope she does leave she will do great on her own

>>48511888
Nah, its fucked. Even if everyone else stays, no one is going to join this org because of the shitty contracts. Now everyone knows about it.

Are there genuinely any nuxfags in existence or is it just catalogfags trying to stir shit up?

>>48511888
if purple keem is telling the truth then it should be over by next week

>>48512089
yes

>>48512040
i fucking hate you now bend over

>>48512089
You'd be surprised. I've even seen Fefefags.

>>48512089
Judging by his flatlined channel, its second.

>>48512110
This is like treating a debate streamer as a source of inside news on politics

>>48512089
considering he's barely even mentioned in /lig/ its safe to say its just shitstirrers

>>48512089
>lets bring shit into this thread too

>>48512139
God how autistic do you have to be to even watch that dumb faggot

>>48512189
yes

>>48512155
i would have agreed if not for the fact that he's friends with mouse and like it or not hes the most reputable of the dramafags

>>48512178
Even on it's last legs this remains the dumbest thread on /vt/.

>>48512178
There are people here treating False as a source of inside news, there's no saving this place

>>48512147
Fefe is useful, her existence proves by comparison that Mel isn't a grifter

>>48512239
mouse leaks to him all the time

Only now have I noticed that one member has left. Won't VShojo investors be pissed that there is no 2nd, 3rd and 5th most popular member in this agency anymore?

>>48511888
I really wouldn't care if all the girls went full indie or not, doesn't change anything for me and honestly it might just drive them closer together.
>>48511932
this is unironically my favorite mel image

I think vshojo has too few popular vtubers to warrant a general, once mouse leaves we should stop making this thread.

so any guesses on when hime is dropping her departure post

Dead corpos don't need Generals.

>>48512329
probably in 6 months when she remembers

God I love anny. How can girls like her don't exist in real life?

>>48512367
luv me pure hearted whores
simple as

>>48512310
generals are stupid anywasy

>>48512329
Hime's existence was the constant proof that vshojo wasn't a serious venture. No fucking idea how none of the sponsors even questioned her being a part of it

>>48512276
it was the only solution with his monetization model though. They didn't take cuts from the girls earnings so where is the money coming for all the support and organizing? Merch? That's pennies. He needed investors. Or he could try to take cuts from bits and donos etc. Which he might have tried right now and guess what? Everyone left.

>>48512310
What if Zen leaves early?

>>48512350
tsunX...

So, uh, who is still hyped for all the big stuff happening in May?

So what's the bet on when Mouse announces her departure?

>>48512464
its just individual projects

>>48512464
not may but I'm excited for what Mouse has in June

>>48512485
0.99

>>48512485
I would 80% chance

>>48512485
6th may

6:06PM or AM

>>48512450
All the Tsun talents liked each other and bonded over their lack of management, there is no unity here anymore

>>48512431
I doubt he'd try and take from bits/donos, thats not much money. Gunrun probably increased Vshojo's percentage of sponsorships because he needs to pay off some of the money he got from Silicon Valley investment firms eating shit on the death of Web 3.0.

>>48512464
/in/

>>48512464
DYRBI? Mouse exaggerates this shit all the time. No one else has said anything like that aside from Froot talking about her album.

>>48512485
zero at this point. The fact she was still negotiating the contract already means that she is not leaving.

>>48512512
I'm still sad subathon got pushed again but I will one last time get exited for it happening in June

>>48512589
This thread and overexaggerating everything, name a better duo

Mouse doesnt live in Puerto Rico right?

>>48512600

>>48512635
she lives with me

IIRC May is Froots two song covers, Zen's new models, the big ligs launching a new vTuber org, and Gunrun leveraging his influence at Twitch to get Snuffy permanently banned from the platform.

>>48512600
But how long are these contracts?

>>48512431
how would vshojo make money? by doing their job, it was supposed to generate money through merge cells lining up sponsorships and events like concerts and conventions appearances. also merch drops generates a crazy amount of money. that's why in the beginning they were belting out a bunch of very generic merch.

>>48512635
she was born in Puerto Rico but had to leave when she was still very very young for medical reasons

>Vshojo is my fiesta till i fucking die
Does this mean mouse has less than a month left to live?

>>48512567
Perhaps. Sucks because he got those millions and it probably seemed like a lot of money (typical for unseasoned entrepreneurs) so instead of investing some of it into existing talents and keeping a nice fat piece of it safely secured just in case he made an absolutely suicidal venture of expanding into JP. And JP objectively flopped. Hell it was probably eating more funds than profuts it was given back for a long time now.

vei ___

>>48512769
She just naively believed that the corpo would actually outlast her.

>>48512329
>have clout
>join this funny vtuber group for fun and make a bit of money on the side
>leave when all the other talents are while citing "financial reasons"
That would be really funny honestly

>>48512799
Will this agency now gain investors or will they leave?

>>48512802
soon

>>48512802
bae

How is she taking all this

>>48512802
bei

>>48512769
she said this before this new contract existed
wonder if she still feels the same way now

>>48512925
Veibae wouldn’t allowed this to happen
Vei on the other hand…

>>48512926
Crying into her crankshaft oil. It's all crumbling.

>>48511989
This is important

>>48512089
No-one gives a fuck about nux, when was the last time you saw his pic or him being mentioned outside of some autist mentioning the audition shit?

>>48512926
ODing on coke

>>48512881
if he and Melody somehow manage to turn this around through a miracle then he might gain some but currently to any investor it's an agency with deathstench and no integrity when it comes to keeping your investments worth your while.

>>48512926
Hopefully well, but knowing her probably very poorly :(

>>48512962
and before 2 of her friends left

>>48512926
on her way to Pomu's house to have some hot lesbian sex. Finana is invited too.

What was the miguel gato stream about?

>>48513000
I rather doubt that Mel attracts investors.

>>48512926
She's been snorting cocaine from my dick since the announcement dropped.

>>48513080
she might attract adult investors. Which are absolute fucking predators but hey beggars can't be choosers. A lot of JP avtubers (yes, that's a thing) are doing really well on adult industry sponsorships.

>>48513000
vshojo was always a retarded investment because all of its value is in the talents that they represent and as you can see it's one poor negotiation away from imploding

>>48513067
Positive stream about being thankful for her viewers. Was pretty cute.

Looked to see if there's anything going on on Youtube and hey Asmon reacted to Giri.

>>48512926
considering roping

>>48513149
This is probably the only hope for VShojo.

>>48511932
>>48511989
I kneel

>>48513169
Also she has a titty pad for sale now

>>48512926
its mayhem on mars for her

>>48512635
She's definitely moved since her disease took a turn for the worse. Probably someplace like Miami (where there happens to both be a large Puerto Rican community and a Mayo Clinic specializing in CVID.) But that's just a guess since she doesn't have the ability to talk about things she does outside her home.

>>48512926
Crying softly while dildoing her ass.

>>48512673
Froot has a new model soon I think as well probably debuts with one of the songs.

>>48512600
I know this is shocking but Mouse lies all the time.
"Still in negotiation" is such a vague answer that you can't take anything from it other than she hasn't committed to anything.
I don't think she's going to ignore what the others found wrong with the contract either. And unless Vshojo is stupid they initially offered them all the same deal. If they got different deals and started to compare books then Vshojo is likely dead.

SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

>>48513310
also has a cover with Mel planned
for other stuff, she aluded to having to take part in a big scary meeting soon and that apparently a lot is happening this year
I'm guessing the big scary meeting has to be Mouse negotiation and an actual attempt to change the direction of the company

>>48513378
The only good post

>>48513347
She already confirmed off-hand that she had brought her own lawyer to the negotiations so she's probably going hardball.

>>48513415
gunrun... what did you put in those contracts

honestly Froot, Mel and Haruka aren't a bad trio if they actually interact now. I assume Zen is leaving...

>>48513415
lifetime cinnamoroll supply

>>48513458
there seems to be some sparks going on between Frot and Mel lately, so it's possible they might start doing more things together apart from their planned cover
their art collab they did in 2021 was super cute

>>48513458
I am most definitely getting the vibes from Zen that if Mouse leaves then it's a no brainer about leaving.
Just probably feeling guilty from leaving Froot and Haruka behind.

>>48512040
How deep will the dogeza be that she does in front of Yagoo in an attempt to get her old job back when VShojo implodes?

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1653061182792818694
Someone rolled in Kson's new years gacha over 1000 times apparently

>>48513458
Haruka is the Cheeto in the lock that might keep Zen for a while unless she gets fucked monetarily. I unironically felt the same for Mouse with Nyan, i know that she might go “oh don’t worry guys I will stay in VShojo” but certainly Nyan leaving might put her on the edge. It’s a positive thing she actually has the UTA contract, that shit is able to keep Sykkuno fine and with good contracts, although it would be funny if Mouse also does like he does, where he does a stream promoting a movie.

>>48512926
im glad nyanners vei and silver will be able to get better sponsors now without a porn star putting off big brands

They won't get any big indies now the best hope for Vshojo is some random 2view

>>48513598
Mouse has:
> UTA Contract
> Her own legal counsel
> Her own personally hired managers

She's set to jet whenever she's ready.

>>48513605
wishing all mel haters a nice kys

>>48512600
do you know what are the causes of Labor disputes and Strikes? They're caused because they can't negotiate the new terms for the new contract before the old contracts expires, they'll usually be negotiating up till the last possible minute before the old contract expires and even then they will fail to come to terms

>>48513598
Haruka is honestly the most hurt individual in all this. This is like some poor japanese office worker being transferred to Hiroshima a week before the nuke.

>>48513807
>causes of Labor disputes and Strikes
yes greedy Labor Unions shenaningans and lobbying behind the scenes fuckery. If you think those ever had to do with actual workers and contracts beyond the early 20th century you are an actual bafoon.

they're all laughing at you

JP expansion destroyed this org. Unnecessary waste of capital when the focus should have been expanding the foothold in the west. Gunrun hire me.

>>48513885
please stop being a Tory voter

>>48513598
Remember the monkey on Mouses back that is unapologetically whispering in her ear constantly "Ask for more money"
Because we know she's going to be asking for his opinion.

with mouse delaying subathon again I hope she tries to build more hype for it this time if people only followed her on youtube or twitter they might not have even know it was happening

my favorite 2 view just announced her graduation. I am not having a good time. I only checked the channel because I was feeling sad.

>>48513885
Ok Mr Koch

>>48513605
And yet Mel is still the first member to get her own video game.

>>48513925
essentially this, why even expand into a oversaturated market with very harsh competition? did Kson really just bait Gunrun into doing it?

>>48513947
I'm a Union worker you butty..... I know how this works and it's disgusting but it's the truth.

Calling it now.
>Geexplus launches a sister company dedicated to vtubers
>mouse and hime jump ship to them
>all the liggers join as well
So what do we call the new general? /geexplus+/?
/gp+/ (not to be confused with gpt)?

>>48513987
Shame about the art style. It's not bad, but not Mel

>>48514026
>Geexplus
I always read their company name as Geega first

>>48514032
I'm honestly really mad they gave her bigger boobs in the game

>>48514026
Do we get to keep the star?
Is there any possible way to keep the star?

>>48513885
I'm just using that as an example because it is applicable to what's going on right now. because Mouse is still in negotiating with vshojo and hasn't left yet doesn't mean they're going to be able to come to terms, it means that there's some sticking point that they can't get past and for all we know the contract could expire without coming to terms and she leaves.

>>48514108
No

>>48514032
I like it. It looks like a doll and since Projekt Melody is supposed to actually be Mel as her 3D model, it differentiates them. It would be fucking weird to be playing with the actual Mel.

You know, I know there’s a lot of people dooming
But it’s greatly net positive that both Vei and Nyan (and even Silver for the most part) actually left on their own decision and without an issue. As seen with PCInvaders, she didn’t lost their characters, VShojo had barely an impact on their branding and if things change for the better for VShojo, they could easily be reintegrated if things outside of that line don’t work for them as they planned (they could also never return). The problem is the constant mention of the word “contracts” which is mainly seems as “greedy” but it’s weird that even Filian actually talked goods about it, or even people that need the money more than the others are fine.
I think the problem is maybe where the investment is going, there’s definitely some foul play in what VShojo was trying to invest or where they could get the investment from the girls, that pulled off Vei and Nyan.
The problem is the public image and people jumping into conclusions which will taint their image more, and specially with Silver behavior.

>>48513987
damn i bet all the other girls were really jealous of mels ugly hentai shovelware thats why they left

>>48514181
Silver probably unironically was.

Anyone else think this is going to make Nyan, Aethal, Gunrun, and Panini's next livestreamed LA double date kinda awkward?

>>48513987
oh god the current iteration of the game model for Mel looks bad. It looks like they ripped her head off and put it on a generic naked body

>>48513987
>ugly ass coomer game

>>48514211
kek made me laugh. Really hoping to see Silver on the casting of BlackedRaw or something in a few years.

>>48513959
While money is in the line, because Connor knows it all about her (even the stuff we aren’t supposed to know or things that we won’t know because of that reason), I think his suggestion might go more in the line of what are her plans for the future. For Mouse, VShojo was also a passion project and in a sense it made her safe for quite some time, hence the whole VShojo dickridding from her. But if the money situation is gonna stress her out, that will make her do more sponsors or even invest her money somewhere else, Mouse has the clout to just fuck off and be better on the indie side.

I love talking about things I know nothing about

>>48514153
There's practical matters as well. Such as that advertisers and sponsors look into concurrent viewership. How many ccvs do the 3 that left have if they are streaming at the same time? Nearly 20k?
That's a hit for Vshojo however you want to spin this.

>>48514096
Fuck the digital storefronts barring her for "not looking like an adult" petite women are real and they rock

Gunrun: "Alright guys, as we head into the new fiscal year we need to keep in mind that the 11 million in investor funding is starting to come due, so we'll all have to tighten our belts a bit and be thrifty. When you re-sign your contracts you might notice we bumped Vshojo's sponsorship cut to 65% to start paying those guys back. Let me know if you have any trouble getting E-Sign to work."
Vei: "It was 30%, and Mythic only takes 15%"
Nyan: "And, uh, Mythic gets more sponsorships and those sponsorships pay more."
Silvervale: "And you barely do anything for anyone but Ironmouse and Nyanners anyways."
Gunrun: "Those are all very interesting points but I have to get back to fucking a pile of backpacks, so just shoot me an email once you sign the contracts. Thanks guys!"

I wonder how Filian is feeling about all after sucking Vshojo dick balls deep and a little rimming on the side a few days ago.

>>48513987
sasuga, another amazing move by melody and vshojo, incredible graphics, i kneel

>>48514556
It's just like one of my cheap jar figurines!

https://twitter.com/dariusbearvt/status/1652855605525094401?s=46&t=HI88-x-bZ14Q4AuEiGFuag
Mouse likes this

>>48514507
Aren't DFC porn stars illegal in Australia now?

>>48514465
All those posts were you? Please stop. You're making 90% of the posts itt.

What the fuck happened. I am so horrified. Everything just happened so quick with no preparation at all. It's the same way my grandpa died. He was just out of hospital, we thought "yes! He survived covid" and then a couple of weeks later his heart suddenly ruptured and he died. It feels horrible. He was so excited for my graduation. I never wanted this to happen.

I miss everyone. We won the divegrass together, we were going to get new members. I could feel it way going ot be an exciting summer season for us but now everything is falling apart. I don't know what to say I am a mess right now. Please come back if you're reading this nyan, silver, and even you Vei. As much as I hated you, i always considered you part of us. I miss you, bitch even if I despised you for banning me from your chat.

I know it sounds pathetic but i am bawling my eyes out RN. I miss everyone so much. Everything feels empty and hollow. I can't process this.

>>48514723

>>48514723
Meds and find new oshis.

>>48514723
the girls leaving is actually a good thing cuz it means they're not getting screwed over by a shitty contract

>>48514723
Bro, we can just go to /lig/, this honestly doesn’t mean much in the long run

>>48514723
Nigga, nothing fucking changed

https://twitter.com/offkaiexpo/status/1653067291335053313?s=46&t=HI88-x-bZ14Q4AuEiGFuag
Aethel is making an appearance in OffKai this year

>>48514599
amazing times we live in where contract negotiations are considered drama now

>>48514153
I think that it might be good that vei, silver and nyan left vshojo. They really weren't doing anything especial that might require them, barely streamed or were menheras(silver). They were also the must anti-socials of the whole group and only doing things if their BFs were there.
I can't really blame vshojo for not chasing these talents with better contracts when they don't even try to do anything and just chill on their streams.
Now if Ironmouse leaves then that would be a truly big blow she really tries to push a lot of content and wants to do the things that vshojo has the tools for.

Tob it's supposed to be coming back from her family vacation today, do you think she's going to stream later?

>>48512075
As someone primarily from a different thread, I do honestly still think that there is a chance that they could turn this around so long as mouse stays and if they actually have a new generation of people that are hired, and maybe immediately release an actual audition instead of just hiring an orbiter then I think that the brand name recognition and things vsj can provide are still positives to being an indie.
Making your own merch as an Indie is extremely hard and on top of that getting invited to conventions that are big is also really tough, even large Indies struggle. It just needs to be a bit of a rebranding and honestly I hate to say it but without Vei, that shouldn't be that difficult to do.

>>48514892
>Piloted by Bradley
If they strap a tablet to a dog and Aethel reacts to whatever the dog wanders up to it'll be a kino to surpass pink cat.

>>48514884
>>48514880
>>48514859
It's not the same. Unity is officially dead. No amount of copium is going to change this fact

gunrun being unable to retain nyan after recently doing rtx karaoke with her is hilarious and dire at the same time

>>48515037
Unity has been dead since second half of 2021, wake up

>>48514723
The big plot twist in the season finale was that silver's a cunt. There was actually a lot of foreshadowing if you look back through previous seasons. On reflection it wasn't even that subtle. Hoping for a new writing team next season.

Nyan negiotiating her contract

>>48514723
They're not dead you sausage.
The only thing that changed is No more public appearances as a group or Highgai verity games

No Zen today

>>48515008
none of the girls work for vshojo the girls are the ones that hired them to manage stuff for them. It's also kind of why it was retarded to do auditions, vshojo should have been the one making the argument of why people should hire them.

>>48515083
I won't lie to you man, I don't think that cheese got much longer in this gig at all. She's already been going the vei route. Her streams have been less and less frequent and she's made her fortune.

>>48515208
SHE'S /OUT/

>>48515083
that the CEO took time out of his day to help them with their goofy ass IRL stream and she still peaced out is really funny honestly

>>48515089
that's the only thing that changed for me when it comes to the girls, I'm not touching Silver's streams with a 10 feet pole from now on
but mostly I'm really just concerned abotu what's gonna happen to this thread

Zen "Taking the day off"
https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1653078458765918218

>>48515226
Man that's what I get for mobile posting I get an autocorrection to cheese instead of she's lmao

>>48515236
that or another departure announcement is dropping tonight kek

>>48515083
i might be wrong but he might not have much choice investors might want to start seeing a return on investment and with streaming declining a bit change the contract might have been the only way. everyone I have heard talk about gun has only said good things

>>48515255
I believe the rrat that it's unironically Vei's fault

>>48514153
>VShojo had barely an impact on their branding
roru rumao

>>48515208
Life is no longer worth living.

>>48515208
That's ominous.

>>48515208
I am sure as hell Zen considered leaving before. Then the girls convinced her to stay. Then the girls left themselves a few months later. Poetry.

>>48515083
It's still kind of funny that she managed to get gunrun to pay for another night on the town for her and her BF

>>48515212
Not really sure I get what you're trying to say. I don't think that was stupid for them to do auditions but I do think that was stupid for them to do auditions hold off on hiring anybody for damn near a full year and then just hire one person who was already pretty close to the branch she got hired in.

>>48514723
good shitpost

>>48514723
no bro the curtain was pulled and now everyone see's the truth
there never was any unity/1big family
just the illusion
turn up to this anons dead ass peapaw, he's reliving the grief lol
peapaw's dead ass hell just like vshojo

>>48515260
If we get new members maybe maybe the ex ones become full liggers, if vshojo dies maybe we just stick together like the tsun thread.

ENOUGH SAD SHIT. LET'S SPECULATE WHO'S /IN/

so who was the idiot that signed the new contract without even thinking about it because she thought others would too and is now stuck with it and why is it Froot?

>>48515432
it's probably everyone except the 3 that left and Mouse

>wins /vt/ cup
>company collapses
Goddamn it blt and jefe

Am I gonna be allowed to keep posting about Silvervale here? She's my favorite member by a mile.

>>48515255
He was probably adding that personal touch to get her to stay and was side blinded to the Vei and Silver situations developing. An Vei pulled Nyan over to the side of taking a very critical look at the Vshojo cost/benefits model.

>>48515255
At the end of it, it’s just business
The only one that left with a kinda sour taste on the mouth is Silver, although we don’t know if she left with good terms with Gunrun. I don’t doubt they are still in like the same circle to talk about stuff they could get from him as old colleagues, which is generally the best buisness decision

>>48515432
who said that happened?

>>48514927
pretty much this, vei and silver only think of vtubing as an alternative to using a cam and nyan seems burnt out of the whole thing. My guess is that apart from money they just had different goals than what vshojo wanted from them, nothing wrong with that but it makes sense that the company wouldn't try to offer more to make them stay when vtubing is obviously not something they take as seriously as someone like mouse

>>48513252
are we finally going to see some new content on that channel?

>>48515476
of course you can, but don't expect people to forget the announcement stream debacle

>>48515476
go ahead

>>48515394
For the less intelligent, Vshojo is a talent agency, not a corpo. Talent Agencies don't hire people, they get hired by people and work for them. Therefore, they shouldn't be holding auditions for talents to join them, they should be showing indies what they have to offer and entice them to approach them for representation.

>>48515490
there is always at least one person that does that in any workspace.

>>48515255
aethel being there too kek

>>48515430
Most of your favorite indies are joining a new vTuber org being launched by Geexplus this summer.

>>48515324
I fully do think that it was. I think vei made a big stink about getting the slightest amount of pushback and convinced everyone they didn't need vshojo. Nyanners has less spine than jellyfish and silver was outed as a bigger cunt than vei.

Geegarchitect

>>48515490
Evanito, ex-Connor editor and known dramafag

Vshojo could recover from this 100% but they have to wake up and start recruiting people and do more stuff.
Otk for example lost 3 members 2 being owners 1 because of rape accusation while another owner got accused of sexual harassment and blackmailing the victim, also their top creator owner asmon is best friend with a guy that went to jail for beating his gf or something.
3 people leaving for a contract is nothing as long as they wake up but right now they don't seem to be really doing anything to get back up

>>48515324
I don't know about "fault", she's probably part of the cause, but I'm not faulting anyone for looking for a better deal in an industry as unstable as streaming.

>>48515580
Honestly this, but the management of vhosjo don’t even get that

>I'm in contact negotiations
You are Gun and you hear this
What do you do?

>>48515612
>vei suddenly started inviting nyan and aethel to collabs to get on their good side and eventually persuade her to leave
i believe this rrat

>>48515432
Nobody from VShojo was at Offkai in person last year. Evan's retarded or mixed up his stories. The assumption right now is it's Bao since he made it sound like his audience might be able to guess who it was and he's friends with her + she was there.

>>48515675
maybe, unless mouse also leaves, which i hope she does if the contracts are bad

>>48513396
>change the direction of the company
is it even possible at this point? they can go full idol for mouse and maybe froot, but not for zen
and what about haruka? (she's probably in for at least a year though)

>>48515675
this. In fact it will be incredibly funny and ironic if this kick starts the second Golden Age of Vshojo.

>>48515394
vshojo doesn't hire vtubers, the vtubers are the ones that hire vshojo to manage stuff for them. here's a better way to think about this. you're trying to find a cell phone provider, you go to one that instead of telling you why you should get a service with them they make you write a five page essay on why you should be one of their clients. now would you go through that hassle or go to the next provider that will give you a $25 gift card to Best Buy and a free phone for signing with them?

>>48515754
Tell Connor about this awesome IRL project that will take months of streaming outside of his home

>>48515754
Fold the company immediately.

>>48515754
>mouse go live right now we're doing a karaoke collab

>>48515675
thats a damn good point if otk of all groups can recover there may be hope yet, especially since all the talents left on mostly good terms

>>48515796
There is no Golden Age without Pink Cat.

>>48515580
Not really, even if you're a talent agency you still have people come in and audition to be represented by said agency. You have to come in and showcase what you have to offer to them. A lot of people still have to apply to talent agencies, they send in headshots, resumes and other things because of course a talent agency might not notice you unless you apply.
The same goes for Vtubing, If you want represented by an agency of any sort, they're going to want to see what you're capable of, I do agree that they need to more heavily promote what they're actually capable of as a corporation / talent agency though. They should realize that promoting how helpful they are with merch, how helpful they are with getting conventions , etc etc

>>48513378
>camel toe
Hot

>>48515893
that's an even bigger cope.

>>48515650
He didn't say that was anyone in vshojo. Just hinted that funrun was one of many ceo's there at the time. How would a vshojo girl sign a contract in person at a con? They never go anywhere.

Get over it you twitter/twitch kiddies, VShojo is dead. These are e-celeb threads that don't belong here now.

>>48515881
>mostly good terms

>>48515893
The problem is the pink cat is already kind of out, like I said earlier. She's been less and less interested in actually V tubing and interacting with an audience and more and more interested in her boyfriend which is understandable but on the same hand even if she would have stayed nothing would have changed because ultimately she wasn't streaming that frequently anyway.

>>48515949
You have the 2 views come in for auditions, you reach out to inclining 3 views in the hopes that they pop off, and you beg 4 views for the right to represent them.

>>48515796
i mean this is definitely a good wakeup call for them to actually start making shit happen, vshojo has been getting too comfortable thinking their talents had no reason to leave before Mythic came along and started courting them. I think if they were more aware about their competition gunrun might have never invested in a JP branch

>>48515881
>all
>mostly good
Okay

>>48516054
That's just Vei's personality. The only who publicly didn't leave on good terms is Silver lol

>>48515432
yeah, the got her in the bag thanks to the timing with her song

>>48516054
vei did

>>48515789
didn't mean as in changing the branding of the company, but how they tackle with scouting new member and stuff
instead of just adding one member per year who is already prett yclose to the core group, they should start mass recruiting smaller indies and starting from there
their reputation is probably sulleid for the time being with the big indies, so doing it the former way is now impossible

>>48515755
I thought the same honestly. There was zero interaction for like a year.

>Melware’s timeline ends with Mel being the only girl left and running the place, where either all of the girls are dead or gone
>3 girls already gone
Uhh, are we in the worst timeline?

>>48516102
Vei did said in her offline chat that she left in good terms. Silver tho, ih

>>48516086
JP branch was such a dumb idea. I got shitted on when I said it was a bad idea when it happened but it was true then and it is especially true now. I still don't get why Gun went with it. Purely for Kson?

>>48516054
>>48516087

Yes

>>48516102
>>48516112
>Vei
Publicly raised questions about vshojo contracts in all caps retardpost style.

>>48516148
desu, I don't think vshojo model could even work in the long run
just do as holo does and I say this truly hating hololive as a company

>>48516240
It would have been a good idea if they actually put some effort into it

>>48515949
for new and smaller talents yeah you make them make the argument of why you should represent them, but for bigger talents you should be the one going to them and asking them to join your agency.

>>48516275
Leaving on good terms and not liking the contract does not contradict each other.

>>48516069
I don't disagree but I think you should do both, reach out to promising three views or even four views and say
"how would you like to have somebody to manage merchandise for you and convention appearances for you, and maybe even get you some physical perks . Best part is we won't even take anything out of your donations that you get on stream. We'll promote your streams and talents and offer help in case of harassment or copyright"

Basically they need to actually work a little bit harder at maintaining the idea that there's something more than just a brand, Make the illusion that there's friends to be had and that there's less incentive to stay indie.

>>48516183
funny enough, froot's still there in the lore too

>>48516240
the chance of snatching up two ex holos was just something he couldn't resist and i almost can't blame him

>>48516063
She finally grew up I think. Found someone like her and now has to be the caretaker. She'll unironically be pregnant in the next 12 months.

>>48516290
Did hololive fuck your mom?

>>48516240
>2 former top superchat earners suddenly become free agents
It was a decent idea, but they half-assed it and burned. Classic.

>>48516291
I am sure they did. That wasn't the problem. The problem was that Vshojo had no pull in JP and thinking otherwise was delusional. Kson maybe promised Gunrun riches of JP Vtubers but in the end all she managed to pull was Nazuna.

>>48516351
>Melware kills almost everyone and destroys the world
>Post-credit scene
>Froot is hidden away in some corner of hell and grinding Apex, with all of her opponnents being the souls of the people killed by Mellware

>>48516388
they rejected me in auditions

I cleaned up my folder with this stuff so herea a nyanners gif/pic archive including:

514 Fan arts, 343 reaction pics/stream caps , 109 gifs and 32 Nyan Headpat Gifs.

Heres the link if anyone wants these: https://mega.nz/folder/WW5SxSxK#RO0I0umTCNFDFN07ndw3pg

Idk if i will update this folder but its a good collection if anyone needs them.

>>48516384
naw, nyan abandons everyone at some point
4chan
reddit
lolicons
her cats
vshojo
aethel is next

>>48516339
Tweeting about it like that makes the terms significantly worse regardless of how vei may feel.

>>48516063
Reminds me of when I played an MMO hardcore and we would occasionally lose a good long-term player because he got a girlfriend and just dropped off the internet altogether.

>>48516457
Aethel... leave while you can...

>>48516351
Zen is too. And if you go by a director's cut that was never made Snuffy was supposed to be in it too

>>48516270
Seems like Vshojo didn't do a whole lot for them if she's only concerned about dealing with merch stuff.

>>48516429
She was actually alive in that future anyways. There is a shot of her sitting by herself alone right at the beginning of Zens lore vid

>>48516465
yeah, she's definitely upping her cuntyness with her recent tweets

>>48516384
Stop trying to force your weird fetish on her. Disgusting.

>>48516148
vshojo barely has the manpower to support two talents, what makes you think they can handle bringing it in a whole bunch of them?

>>48515881
>mostly good terms

>>48516577
we don't know how many staff they have, but we do know that even if they had enough of them, they still didn't do jack shit but instead foolhardily coasted on the success of their talents, hopping they will stay for al leternity

>>48516325
Yeah I definitely agree, I hope that somebody in vshojo actually has a brain and realizes that this is not the end and that this could be the start of a new beginning. Especially because honestly speaking, Vei leaving was a blessing in disguise.
I don't want to sound rude, but when the clips of a talent that are all heavily promoted or stuff about her sucking dick and talking about her sex life and she's one of the big names in vsj, I don't think people take vsj seriously.

>>48516577
where the fuck did that investment money go to if they can't?

Wait, you don't have to sleep with Gunrun once a month in your contract?

Do they have to give their PCs back?

>>48516590
That's really not bad at all.

>>48516570
Basic biological drive = fetish
Zoomers r boned

>>48516590
>first tweet just hints that Vei was told before (which make sense why Nyan was reached out by Mythic)
>the others ones are just mocking Mikey
Nothing with VShojo tho

>>48516457
Lipgloss......

>>48516698
it's not as bad as Silver, but she might get there if she keeps up with her current Tweet spree

>>48516521
>snuffy
I bet she never joined because they proposed her a shitty contract or at least a different one from her friends

>>48516365
>>48516408
that doesn't matter much when you don't take cuts of their actual earnings. Also Nazuna was never going to fly as high anyone with a brain could have seen that. In any case the investment was not worth it for those two. I am sure they expected more (I won't be surprised if they tried to poach Nijisanji's Lulu and Bora but it was foolish if they tried especially with Lulu, good thing they didn't try with Uto) but nobody came.

>>48516676
Ruppy, a former member of staff that got fired after the audition fiasco mentioned she was making six figures at vshojo

>>48516533
Vei never liked the way they were handling merch. It was too anime for her I think

>>48516779
nah, she said herself she got rejected alongside Anny
at that time Gunrun could've given her a shitty contract and she still would've joined most likely

>>48516570
I didn't have to, it has already come true

>>48515881
>mostly good terms
Silver said unity has been death for almost a year and Vei said the contracts are basically a scam to lure retarded indies into servitude

Has nyanners done a collab without aethel recently?
Not a corpo mandated one

>>48515881
>mostly good terms
hmmmm

>>48516705
She doesn't have that drive, she's not a zoomer, and she thinks it's scary and gross.

>>48516384
I'm honestly kind of surprised that she isn't already, she's made it very clear that their sex life is very frequent to say the least. I really don't think that's out of their own possibility that she's going to be done very soon. She might release merch here and there and maybe even stream a few times just to help pad the bills and stuff like that but yeah I just don't see her sticking around as a Vtuber for very long after this.

>>48516853
Nope

>>48516838
>got rejected alongside Anny
Gun and Mel really are idiots huh

>>48516881
Sure, my, retarded, zoomer.

>>48516914
Gun and Mtd, Mel doesn't have the same power as they do as she's just a founding member

>>48516798
wtf

>>48516870
They never said who they were on good terms with.

>>48516853
i only remember the Tob and Snuffy one, but that was like half a year ago

>>48516870
???
Are you fucking braindead, my guy? She is basically saying that her relationship with VShojo (the fact that she’s no longer with them) won’t affect her personal relationship, retard

>>48516853
Showdown was optional. Hence the absence of cuntywolf. Nothing apart from that though.

>>48516790
I honestly don't know, I kind of think that he just expected things to work out. I'm not even sure I'd put any Credence in him reaching out to other people for Jp.

>>48516668
the only thing I can think they can do is have gun run step down as CEO and find someone that's actually competent at running an agency

>>48516676
If I remember correctly the interview that gunrun did after he received the money from the investors, he said that he put a portion of it into his streaming backpack company. Then there's probably a good chunk of it went to starting the JP branch and probably cost some money to get them into ax that year

>>48516992
The last one was probably the one with Mouse, the one that had Nyan, Snuffy and Corpse

>>48516838
she said that, but at the time it smelled quite fishy

>>48516914
>>48516962
Or - they were vetoed.

>>48516993
Ya I have no idea how you can stretch that statement into something bad lmao

>>48516870
dear tourist its a well know fact that all the girls pay for their models, thats why they are able to retain all their rights to their ip dumbass

>>48516962
I don't think it's clear what Mel's position is really.
She seems to have been the one that brought on the girls and she seems to have been very active in facilitating communication between parties.

>>48517106
You can bet Gunrun would instantly put more resources towards Snuffy than Silver with how Smilfy was making the rounds, she'd be a goldmine for merch sales

>>48516914
no that was silver's fault

>>48517065
No, I think that honestly they were aiming to get people into vshojo Who weren't already orbiters of it, I think that they wanted to make themselves seem more legitimate rather than just hiring a bunch of people who are already friends with the people in it. But I also do think that the girls in it already had some say. I think that's why it took so long to actually get anybody in vshojo and then when they did select a person it was someone everyone already knew and liked. I think haruka was a last minute decision made solely because of the increasing attention brought to the fact that auditions had been in the "final stages" for months

>>48517157
she was responsible for getting the OG froup together
she practically got Mouse and Silver into the limelight, hired Froot to work as her outfit designer, was friends with Hime's grandma etc.

>>48517129
imagine admitting you're on /vt/ when nothing is happening to discuss vtubers in 2023
im here to see catty high school drama from people who extract money from lonely men using a cartoon avatar

>>48517182
I doubt Silver actually had anything to do with that. what most likely happened was they turned down everyone so they can start the JP branch and bring in kson and Nazuna

>>48516914
I mean I know the girls are all pretty wild but self proclaimed miss brand risk getting rejected by a business is surprising to you?

>>48517259
All that because of a failed Hololive EN audition.
That woman has a serious drive.

>>48517348
they can't be worse than chaturbate streamer

>>48515755
At the end of the day it's just my theory but I have a hunch that that's what happened. I think nyan and vei have always been somewhat close behind the scenes, but I think that she was already leaning towards leaving and the final push from vei was really all she needed.

>>48517386
Mel does and I think If she actually knew anything about managing a business she would be hell on wheels .
She is a fire starter to a certain degree, she was essentially a virtual cam whore who made enough waves to where people on the internet started taking notice of said waves and turned it around in her favor.
She then went on to be a very respected person in her company to the point where a lot of people even on this board have more respect for her than they do others in the company despite knowing how she got started as a vtuber.

>>48517545
stolen valor, digi made mel, without him she declined rapidly

>>48517348
Snuffy has gotten unsolicited sponsorship offers from companies like Konami and Sega. She's a zoomer It girl.

>>48517422
I could see Nyan not doing anything without outside influence. At the end of the day tho, if the contracts really were unfavorable for her, it's a good thing she's left.

>>48516914
I do think at times Mel is an idiot, but vshojo is gunrun's show. Mel doesn't really have much to do with anything besides gunrun first going to Mel asking her what she would want in an agency and introducing gunrun to the girls

I've been thinking about it in the last couple of days, at some point mel and mouse collabs abruptly stopped
what was the cause of it? during second half of 2021 vshojo collabing also dried out too and mandatory collabs (hallloween, ny, birthdays) felt super forced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYq0yv35JXE
something about Mouse talking down to him is so funny to me kek

Praying for Vshojo downfall

>>48517844
Mouse happened

Wait, so why is Silver suddenly a cunt??

>>48517844
Supposedly Mel was concerned hanging out with her would her her friends sponsorship prospects.

Or they all got into a fight behind the scenes.

>>48517906
salty mousefags when their oshi gets called out

I know you want to viral market Hogwarts Legacy coming to PS4 and Xbox One consoles this Friday, but most people stopped caring.

>>48517844
Vei happened

>>48517936
It's the first one.

>>48517906
She said she wasn't friends with Mouse

>>48517936
mel's "concerns" were probably a convenient excuse

>>48517844
Ah the start of the boyfriends arc

Can't beat the cock man
Not the cock

>>48517906
>suddenly
She's always been like this but being part of a company prevented her from being outwardly bitchy. So as soon as she was no longer obligated to play nice she started burning bridges.

>>48517936
Yeah it's the brand risk thing but people love brining up the same old shit to argue about it for hours on end

>>48517906
She's not ride or die like my nigga Froog.

>>48517846
valve playtester-tier gameplay

>>48518021
connor killed western vtubing, it writes itself

tfw you realize the real reason they left was cause mel is toxic to brands

>>48517674
You're right, just look at how well his vtuber company is going! All that guy does is create people's careers

>>48517906
>Braphog
>hag
Always.

>>48518077
He never forget when Holofags tried to cancel him

>>48518094
just don't be a whore lol. Normies hate whores

>>48518046
just ask people that left silver community, there's quite a collection of horror stories

>>48518094
Filian is still doing sponsored streams every week tho, maybe is just a management skill issue?

STOP TALKING ABOUT DRAMA.
>>48518144 (me)
forgot*

>>48517674
She declined because she stopped streaming as frequently, as much as I love her, her stream time went down on both sites and then the pandemic ended

>>48518144
That entire situation was stupid. His take made sense. You could have less charisma than Jeb Bush but you'd still be a middling 3view in Hololive.

>>48517906
always has been

>>48518201
Filian doesn't have a CB where she blasts her pussy until she suffers self induced brain damage.

I just know Nyan will start telling "horror" stories in a year or so about Vshojo and it's behind the scenes if it actually goes under.

>>48505501
Mouse you'd better never be found out to be leaking info to this fuck, well I mean it's obvious that you are you've literally admitted to leaking lots of stuff from the new members to events and other future plans on stream whenever he tries to act koi about it in your chat or on his videos,, plus he's outed you as his source too, but you'd better not be caught leaking about this situation specifically, you'll get Rushia'd so fucking fast, no doubt in my mind they'd try to either keep you hostage or sye you into the ground if you don't become their wage slave.

>>48518201
It's different when you're just friends with someone vs in the same company. I wonder if any of the people in mythic do actual porn

>>48518261
True, she just gets spitroasted at the OTK rapehouse.

>>48518268
I genuinely cannot wait. Make it 3 months. I want her to turn heel on Mouse.

>>48518337
blud thinks he's watching WWE

>>48518094
The bad thing is that management needed honestly talk to those brands and be all like "our 'whore' makes more off of the session of chatturbait than half of the people that you represent make in a year.
She doesn't need you, but you could benefit from her she has a very large audience on both platforms and is a crucial part of the V tubing community and very well respected amongst many other corporations, talents and agencies."

>>48518241
I was always put off by her "comfy" vibes, felt so fake and forced, im glad she proved me right by saying she was faking in collabs

>>48518261
My bad anon I replied to the wrong person, I was talkin to this guy
>>48517936
>Supposedly Mel was concerned hanging out with her would her her friends sponsorship prospects.

>>48517906
>suddendly
It's always the same with Silver has two ways to handle stuff, act like she deserves everything or cry while blaming others. Has been a long-running tradition to have one of her menhera fits. The only positive thing is that she would reach people to talk to them (like Anny mentioned on her TG), which makes the whole stuff about "those who want to be around me are my friends" kinda weird, same with the whole acting nice for the cameras.
>>48518268
I can't believe the horror that she will tell about how they forced her to do a Twitch Rivals event, get deals done for her bf plans, and how Gunrun invited them to get dinner a few times, truly a horrific experience.

>>48516590
why has no one figured out yet that they are mocking (You) the fanbase? The first tweet is just Vei being sarcastically shocked but the rest is the same as the 'thilvervale' bit that Aethel was doing. They are mocking vshojo fans for being 'simps' or whatever.
Imagine being a fan of someone that hates you.

>>48518321
ALLEGEDLY motherfucker. Nothing was actually proven in court.

>>48518308
Ha, Gun doesn't have a leg to stand on even if she announces it on stream.

>>48518357
if mel dont need the sponsors she wouldnt cry about it all the god damn time

Talk about good things NOW

>>48518308
What is this meaningless word salad?
Mouse could do a stream announcing she shares secrets with False and Gunrun couldn't do shit, she's the final big streamer in the org.

She wouldn't get Rushia'd she'd get two days of spicy tweets.

False doesn't matter. Get over it.

>>48518429
Hi, Mizkif.
>>48518419
>el no sabe about Mikey

>>48518314
>I wonder if any of the people in mythic do actual porn
They film the rapes. Do that count?

>>48518176
Other than Zealous?

>>48518358
Yes, because calling paypigs as family is not fake and manipulative as fuck lmao

This is all because she started doing butt stuff.

>>48518409
your boss inviting you to dinner is a huge red flag
what do you have to tell me that cannot be discussed at work?

>>48518468

>>48518518
Because she went to LA to visit her bf, and Gunrun invited them to have dinner?

>>48518494
weak bait, you can do better senpai

>>48518511
Her best content tho, 100% worth it

>>48518486
go ask /pmg/ maybe some are still there

>>48518446
Financially wise I don't honestly think that she does, it's good money don't get me wrong but in the same hand I know full and well that her streams on both platforms aren't exactly low digits.
I'll also say that it's discouraging to think that somebody might harass your friends and co-workers because of what you do for a living. She is in her full right to bitch about it as well because honestly the recent crackdown of not safe for work content on websites and from credit card companies who are worth more money than you could physically even imagine is frightening and discouraging to say the least.
But that's besides the point, the point is that vsj needs to basically tell corporations and sponsors why their talents should be given the opportunity to sponsor a product and what their talents can offer to a sponsorship.

>>48518616
...out of curiosity, if I perchance just wanted to see how bad it really was, where would I go about finding a link for it? Is it just on cb??

>>48515089
>Silver's a cunt becasue she told the truth
i guess if you need a scapegoat....

>>48518537
Not even the best Fate bait

>>48517906
she's not connor's boyfriend and for some reason it made mousefags and nyanfags really angry
guess they were all hoping for Connor X Silver ship to sail

>>48518613
It's not even bait, every single streamer benifits from farming parasocial retards, that's why they "name" the community with something that all of them can identify like "juicers, ludbuds, mizkids, snackers, precious family" and so on. In my mind, calling yourself "comfy streamer" is as bad as calling your viewers "precious familly", both of them are manipulative.

>>48518621
/pmg/ will tell you to fuck off if you ask about drama shit these days. I've only heard of Zealous, and if you know of more than him, feel free to share, but you brought it up, so you should know what you're talking about.

>>48518710
are there any more

>>48518699
Is /pmg/ still around? They might keep vods. Dunno how vods work on CB if you're watching for free.
It really was some of her best content, she was so excited to be sharing blasting a new hole with her viewers.

>>48518822

>>48518308
What are you even on about anon. he could've just asked Mouse for comment and she replied with what she could say under NDA. I hope that it's just a case of awkward wording on his end though because more announcements could be good or bad. Oh well.

Either way new thread
>>48518816
>>48518816
>>48518816

>>48518807
I don't care about drama, I care about Melody's anus.

>>48517906
Untreated mental illness.

>>48518781
It is, but in her case, it's something that has stayed from fucking 3 to 4 years, when they were barely 50 in YouNow.

Meanwhile Kson continues shitposting on Twitter and getting into bouts with oneguys

>>48518885
are you saying 2views can't be groomers lmao? They are the biggest fcking groomers I have ever seen. Private disocrds, chats with top paypigs etc.

>>48518781
>ludbuds
I prefer ludwiggers.

>>48516836
>be anime girl
>hate anime
woman moment.

>>48519129
I mean.... yeah? She's not some anime weeb. She barely watched any anime and she never read manga. Vtubing was just a fun experiment that turned into a career for her.