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https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040
Beginning of the end
pink cat still bad?
>>48459186le mao
>>48459186This was predicted.
>>48459186Holy shit 2/3 of the founders jumped ship now this is some juicy ass drama!
>>48459251Erm... Perhaps.
>>48459186Sounds like she got a better deal somewhere else.
>>48459186Remember, Vshojo has ZERO drawbacks
>>48459251She isn't relevant enough to be considered good/bad.
Don't threaten me with a good time, OP.>it's realNature is healing.
>>48459186pink cat dead life good
>>48459186And nothing of value was lost
This company is just ironmouse now>Inb4 zenLmao
>tfw you get roped into joining a dying company
toasting in epic breadalso, summer outfit nyanners still THE BEST design of ALL TIME
>>48459186Bets on them not liking iron-mouse? Or jealous of her “success”
>>48459186cmon there's no way this IS FUCKING REAL WHAT THE FUCK
>>48459186>Allows three of his top talents to break away and leave the company, likely due to shit contract dealings.I'm starting to think Gun Run might not be very good at running a talent company.
It's over...
>>48459186What the fuck guys do to fucked up this badly? Isnt she like the popular or the second popular member of the company?
Toasting in legendary bread :DDDDDD
>>48459186MODS WHERE'S THE STICKY?
>>48459251Yes
Something is rotten in Creative Freedom land
>>48459443Ru-chan.....
who?
WTF Vshojo can't survive this. Her and the mouse are the core of the lineup.
TALENTFREEDOM
She really Pomf'd herself bec she couldn't cope with mouse being the face of the group
>>48459186Their talents are freeing themselvse
>>48459186WHERE DID THE $11 MILLION GO?????? did the vshojo ceo pocket that shit after his shitty backpack thing? How much did they give to Kson only for her to turn into 2-3k ccv streamer??
Baseeeeeeeeeedddddd
>>48459186Why didn’t they announce it at the same time as Silver and Vei?
April going out with a bang
She's not a vtuber anymore, so who cares
>>48459443I’d gladly welcome the menhera back. She just need to do a double backflip naked dogeza in front of yagoo and the girls
>>48459186rorurumao
>make a bunch of noise to get rushia and kson>leave anywaywhat a fucking scam
>>48459429Zen, Melody, Froot, Rushia when she's not on break due to starting shit with every other female vtuber, and Kson. Froot is there to suck off Melody, Melody needs a corpo or she'll get twitch banned, Zen isn't finding a better contract since proper agencies want the talent to be entertaining rather than the talent's chat. So anyone who can has now jumped ship
>>4845925150/100
>>48459251yes
>>48459186FUCK VSHOJO FUCK NYANNERS HELL YEAH!!!
>>48459443rushi...
>>48459186JesusIt's fucking over
A TOAST
>>48459525>Something's gone wrong in the happy-go-lucky world of Vshojohttps://youtu.be/K783SDTBKmg
Hime is next.
>>48459429inb4 the mouse leaves to get handled 100% by UTA, I doubt Gunrun will keep the Vtitanic afloat just for Zen and Melody.
>turns into a fleshtuber>leaves vtuber companyplace yer bets, who's next
COMPLETETALENT FREEDOMTO LEAVE
>>48459500She's turning into flesh streamer again
>>48459186Oh shit. Are Vshojo going to kick out everyone but Mouse, Kson, and Nazuna and start over? Based.
>>48459186Is this all from the harrasment of the troons that they got when playing Harry potter game and vshojo refusing to defend them? Vei, Silver and Nyanners not renewing!?
>>48459443She doesn't deserve this...
>>48459373>>48459422>>48459626pink cat will still stream you niggers
Hey 4chan janny when are you going to pin this up like the last time?We need to see some bloodshed coming apart on this magnificent day!Open a bottle of your most expensive drink, pet your mascot in a mighty way and run in your house underwear because the fall of VShojo seems to be COMING REAL IN HOT BITCHES!
lmao
>>48459465Vshojo is basically ironmouse at this point lol.
>>48459186JANNIES STICKY
This is later as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o
it's unironically fucking over now for real this time
>>48459708Kek this cope was enjoyable
Vshojo is not a real agency. They just pocket some of your revenue forever. She is not stopping vtubing any time soon.
>>48459719Hopefully she resorts to feet posting to stay relevant
>>48459251i will never forgive pink cat until she sings pomf or moonman
vshojo haters cant stop winning this week
>>48459443She deserves it
It would be very funny for kson to leave after dragging the menhara in.
>>48459609I warned you about frat boy eSports money broI TOLD YOU ABOUT GUNRUN
April is now my oshi
>>48459774Uh oh
Vtuber 9/11
>>48459688That VC that invested in Vshojo probably already wrote off that $11m investment as a loss.
>>48459751She deserves worse, you are correct.
>>48459186Can't wait for the Vshocucks to start jumping off buildings when the rat leaves them too.
>>48459774IT'S OVER
I wonder how Haruka feels, knowing how big it was when she joined VShojo, only for a big chunk of the talent to jump ship soon afterwards.
>>48459692I think Zen and Nazuna also don't have the twitter checkmark
>>48459186TOTAL VSHITJO DEATH!
>>48459774VSHOJO REBELLIONMIKENEKO REVIVAL
>>48459186RoruRumao
I thought you guys said VShojo was strictly better than being an indie
>>48459477>"hey so the inverstors gave us lots of money to start promoting us, can i use some of it to ........" >"Its all gone and we need to up the cut we take from your next contract" - Gun Runhow likely is this scenario? like other than hire Coco and Rushi and put up some hiring posters in Japan, what has he done?
>>48459443Rushia... come back... I want Holodeath to be a real thing.
>>48459186she isnt a vtuber shes an ethotyou're posting on the wrong board
>>48459865Gunrun better hide because he’s gonna get whacked
>>48459186The curse of the /vt/ league is true.>/hiryS/ won and her new model, 3d and kimono got hyper delayed>/XtsunX/ won and got killed >now /vsj+/ won and almost 1/3 of them are leaving>/yubicaft/ won, but since it's a /vt/ project, nothing happenedYou can't prove me wrong
>>48459751>She doesn't deserve this...>>48459851>She deserves itWhich is it /vt/ards?
>>48459687Nah not much impact. Probably need Kson or Ironmouse to leave the company and see how the meltdown they having right now.
What did the company do for her from a logistics perspective? Did they handle all the merch and such? I guess the biggest advantage is having an agency deal with all that headache. Will she do that herself now?
>>48459186ehhh what happened to vwhorejo, it fell apart in days
Nimmu kanryoo.
>>48459630No thanks, keep that timebomb away please
>>48459609Holy shit, is KSON really that low now?
>>48459500Vei and Nyanners were their #2 and #3 and they lost both
>>48459774rorumao
>>48459186Unironically what went wrong? The company is falling apart quickly.
>>48459186What does her contract have that the others' don't?
>>48459186PINK CAT GOOD???
>>48459687who?
lol
>>48459186HOLY SHIT
I know she's not dead as a streamer yet, but I'm popping champagne tonight. Fuck Vshojo.
>>48459186Vshojo can probably survive off IronMouse alone
>>48459443She'll do just fine as an indie. If not even more successful since their trap contract was forcing her on Twitch anyway.
>>48459465There's also Froot.
>>48459774oh fuck
>>48459251PINK CAT HATE
>>48460077inb4 she quits as well
>>48459708Lol.Lmao even.
Oh, this is the main thread?>/tsunX/ won the d*vegrass>Tsunderia finally dissolves>/vsj+/ wins the d*vegrass>VShojo spontaneously combusts
>>48459477Did you not hear kson talk about no cons and slavery. Sure 3 talents left and they crippled nazuna but Vshojo is what all jp corpos should strive to be. It’s still not a corpo though.
>>48459186https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0
Is there a profit chart on vshoujo talents? I have no idea if they're dumping too much resources on mouse and the JPs or something and ignoring the other talents
>>48460048A good chunk of that $11 million. The other girls must have wanted a piece and got told no lmao
>>48459774AIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>48459879same for kson and nazunawhat a letdown
>>48459443Bring this dumdum back Yagoo. She didn't mean anything by it. She's just stupid.
pomf pomf kimochiwhat's this sticky stuff on me?
vshojo dropping like flies they are down to TTS, hospice, fake whore, actual whore, clout gf, two nips, and autism prime
>>48459879man...
>>48460074Will pink cat finally deliver the fucking skeb now?
>>48460091Vshojo willing to keep Froot and throw away their best streamer. Lmao
>make company>allow talents to keep their IP>they use you to increase their following>they fuck off once they can make enough money on their ownWhat's the plan here?
>>48459719If she starts and onlyfans I'm joining immediately
>>48459774holy kek Vshojo really is imploding. What the fuck happened?
Don't mind me, just swimming by
>>48460175she risked doxxing other holosnot gonna happen shes banned for life
man wtf happened to vshojo
Is this god making up for what happen to Pikamee?
maybe they realized being in a company with an actual camwhore isn't the best look
>>48459719Good, she's pretty cute
>No freedom>No talent
>>48459186why are they bailing? I thought there was no downside in joining the creative freedom company?
Strap in, friends.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE
>>48460048She's used to someone else taking a cut, but as the "brand" name is literally nothing, the other girls can do just fine whether they're affiliated or not. So they likely opted out since they didn't want to fork over any more of their sub money (especially since Twitch has been getting stingier with their own cuts).
>>48459186oh no kson...nazuna...
>>48460146lmao
>>48459186SVshojo is just ironmouse + the rest anyway
>>48459879>>48460169Kson and Nazuna are literally bagholding the failed investment kek
>>48460228but why are they leaving though? I thought there was literally no con to being in vshojo compared to being an indie?
>CONS: NOTHING
>>48460228I mean this seems like a pretty retarded reason when Nyanners was already an established personality.
>>48459749Yeah, once a month after getting fucked by her bf
>>48460001
>talent freedom to go elsewhere
>>48459747You guys hate troons, yet they successfully ended Vshojo...maybe they aren't all so bad.
STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY
>>48460324If there are no upsides either then what's the point?
>>48459505>shitpost about pink cat leaving>use ears-removed version of a talent from the living dead corpo, who ghosted everyoneInteresting choice
>>48460149Pip what are you HA HA HAing abut this means you are more of corpo then fucking Pink cat.
>>48460268>I WILL BE VINDICATED DAYO
>>48459974VShojo doesn't do shit for people lol
chances she and aethel join mythic?
its unironically happening
>>48460228make money with minimal investment using other people's work then invest your free money elsewhere when it's no longer profitable
>>48460401jesus. from top of the world to being mogged by holostars.
>>48459186the world is healing
Why did they side with Froot?
Vshojo fans will do extreme parkour gymnastics to explain how this is a sign the company is totally awesome and there couldn't possibly be something wrong with it and it's pure coincidence founding members are fleeing as quickly as possible.
CONS:>NOTHINGCONS:>NOTHINGCONS:>NOTHINGCONS:>NOTHING
>>48460443Now say that again without crying
>>48460268>Pikamee was God's oshi>Now he wants retribution
>>48460294She's a washed up old hag.
>>48460401Do people simply like the video then close the tab or something?
>>48459774MIKE LOVE
>>48460253Silly wizard game and supporting The Cause™.
>>48460401Vshojobros, I...
>>48459865As long as that VC wasn't Wizards of the Coast because then the Pinkertons would come knocking with pliers and a crowbar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5JYHXtt_rwhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/pU2HaXC38R4WE /JAMMIN/ TONIGHT BROSPINK CAT LOVE
>>48460460Goddamn right.
thats crazy
>>48460401All she had to do was stay...
update: nazuna got the mark
>>48459186>lol nice edit OP but there's no way she would lea...>isrealHoly fuck they losing all their biggest talents this quickly? if ironmouse leaves too this company will be dead lmao
OH NO NO NO VSHOJO SISTERS IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS
>>48459443God I hope she continues as Mike and streams on YouTube. Cannot stand twitch.
Best April Ever
So what kind of cope post will kson make this time?
>>48460401HOOOWWWWWWW
>>48460401Hehe donmai
>>48460175Not after how she left, no way she can dance back after a termination. Kson could probably rejoin, but she has no interest in doing so.
>month full of graduations and terminations>finally the month is almost over...
>>48459879Haruka just joined the party way too late, if she wanted to be in a pretend-corpo with her friends she should've joined sooner.
they're dropping like flies, this is what happens when Gura leaves for too long
>>48459609>$11 MILLIONqrd?captcha related
>>48459251"One thief robs another"Scammers, cheats and liars tend to fall out with each other for obvious reasons, the dumbest takeaway from that is assigning a higher moral ground to one or the other
>>48460515Gotta support the cause
who cares this bitch got a bf
>>48460619ironmouse is the least likely to leave.
>>48459938CEO Embezzlements 101
So where did all that investor money go? Ironmouse's constant redesigns? Funding Trash Taste? Paying Nazuna's lawyer fees? What the fuck is going on over there.
>>48459186Is the main reason her becoming a flesh streamer or is there more to it? They can't fuck up contract negotiations so badly that 3 of their biggest talents leave, right?
>>48460401That case opening stream wasn't that good either. I reckon they wanted to see if the oil baronesses would start giving for a gacha stream and it didn't work out.
>>48460224Isn't it more that Froot is refusing to leave?
>>48459186wtf lmao
>>48460377agencies are to the benefit of smaller creators banding together to get a leg up in an industry, at a certain point the math doesn't add up anymore and you benefit more from going fully indie since there's nothing like having to retire their identity or anything.
>>48459186fucking kek
>>48459251How does this change anything?She's part of the reason vshojo has a tainted reputation
>>48460671April was just the beginning, this is the start of the May Massacre
>>48460401That's just sad.
>>48460667If she did somehow join back, Nazuna's gonna kill herself for real
>>48459186I honestly never cared for the company
>>48460382You don't understand. She meant conventions (AnimeExpo, AnimeMatsuri, etc). Talent Freedom means not showing up physically on-site like a slave (idol).
so...how would (you) react if kson decides to leave after all the shilling she did for them?how big would the fallout be?
>>48460541Based
>Destroys VshojoBased Rowling.
Not too long ago people thought being in an agency was the only way to be big, but then shylily, filian etc started to show it's possible. So an agency only proves its worth not by just doing paperwork, but providing something an indie cannot do, like big sponsorships or events. Vshojo did none of those.
>>48459186rest in peace, /lig/.
>>48459974They handled merch and probably took a huge cut because none of the talents were savvy when they first joined and didn't get that sourcing merch is easy as fuck nowadays and it's actually the biggest money maker you have as a content creator. Most of them seem to have grown up and learned that an org that doesn't invest in you is useless and a waste of space.
>>48460228Nothing. They managed to fool a VC to invest 11 million though.
>>48460878>filianwho?
So they decided to stop playing house.Was this really because of troons?
Nazuna is definitely next, last stream she just kept talking about how she asked management to hire more JP girls and about how lonely it was to be the only girl that was bad at english, then there was that whole thing with the checkmark and how she had to go public to force them to actually get off their ass and give it to her
it would be so funny if Gunrun's money was lost because of Silicon Valley bank collapsing
>>48460867It would be a hilarious ant and the grasshopper situation.
oh no what a shame
>>48460894OH FUCK NO
>>48460867I go where Kson goessimple as
>>48459774AHHHH RUSHIA PLEASE!!!! NAKED DOGEZA IN FRONT OF YAGOO!! DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE....................
>>48459186why even stay when the company is letting you retain everything?
>>48460151How much resources are they even spending for their Western members? Pretty sure mouse’s millions models were paid by herself
Ok, explain why you dislike Nyanners exactly
>>48460617Why is Mikenyan doing that "report" stream later then?
I am completely indifferent to this news
BLACKLACKAPRILPRIL
Fr*ot when?
>Everything goes to shit because the company refused to support or go against silver during the wizard game shitHoly shit this is just like WW2 when France stayed neutral to the Poland Russia conflict so Germany attacked them
OH NONONONONONO
>>48459186THE JEW SPEAKS: STEEL RAT IS NEXT
>>48460545EN viewers
Does vshojo whores have to give a portion of their earnings to the company like holoen and niji? If so, why would they stay?
>>48460077She's the most likely to jump ship next.
>>48459443Lol nah she's fucking blackballedThey probably have their full folder of their investigation of her fuck up in a really important spot to remind themselves
>>48460867With kson's business sense she'll be the last member of vshitshow
>>48460920zoomer vrchat streamer vtuber with mostly non-lewd but crude humor.
>>48459186Pink Cat...
>>48460924The menhera fucking deserves it.
>>48460867Her reputation would probably be completely finished at that point if she abandoned Nazuna as well.It's already a shadow of a shadow of her former self, but she might as well just quit, go rogue for a few years, and then come back at that point. Not even going back to Coco would save her.
>>48460973She has a boyfriend and pretended not to for a long time. Also she broke my heart. Twice.
>>48459465Brother what the fuck are those quotation marks?
>>48460945I didn't know HoloJP girls talk about men like this on stream...
>>48460984April is truly the gift that keeps on giving
>>48459774COMEBACK HOME PLEASE MY WIFE I'M WAiTING FOR YOU PLEASE COME TO ME AGAIN MY LOVE
>>48459186TALENT FREEDOM
Look, all I'm asking is:If Hololive and Niji are LE BLACK COMPANIES and VShojo is the ultimate saviorfag corpo then why is everyone leaving? What happened to it just being this flawless, perfect org?
>>48461038Oh yeah I have seen her shorts on youtube
>>48459443nazuna for jp7!
>>48461011No, please be Fr**t
>>48459186>No es fakeHwat
>>48461066>Quitting when she JUST won the Yazuka audition stuffTry to be a little less retarded with your fantasies.
/lig/ will be a nyanners/veibae general now
>>48460973Unironically do your reps.
Pink cat goodpink cat badpink cat do things that make me madhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aOuFggRsgo
>>48460401from the top orange to being mogged by a homo orange, jesus christ why did you have to leavv
>>48459186Can a mod autoplay pomf pomf to celebrate?
>>48460507So they're basically an old-school MCN in sheep's clothing.
>>48460878I doubt people here much less twitter or Twitch even understand why shylily and filian are so successful. And no it's not just because of coomerbait and zoomer humor
>>48460867She would never. Her reputation would be 100% destroyed beyond all repair, and not just /here/.
HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
>>48460973I hate this bitch since before she was a vtuber, she everything wrong with weeb culture with her shitty fake loli voice and LOL SO FUNNY LEWD bullshit.
>>48459186
So this is it, huh?
>>48461181KINOOOOOCMON MODS I BEG YOUUUU
>>48460228Basically leech of other's hardwork and steal merch money
>>48460976She's dropping being MikeYes, she's retarded enough for that
>HoloEN gen 3 is 10 chuubas
>>48460973She's been a whore since like...2008 or whenever she first showed up here.
>>48461111Anon paid shills and cowardly flip floppers following whatever their chosen messiah says will never admit mistakes
i wish Nyan went the way of Silver or hell, even Melody, just go full-on coomer modeHell, I'll take some rawdog ASMRs with aethel (call me a cuck idc, I'd still bust a big fat nut to that)
>>48461210so just like gura now?
>>48459443Should have tried not being a menhera. Had the easiest slot to cruise through life, and she fucked it up.
>>48460667>Kson could probably rejoin>After last month's rant about corporative slavery
>>48459687she’s more of a joke chara everybody ignores
>anounce 2 leaving>anoucne one more some days afterare they unironically stupid?
>>48461181lol there's no fucking way they'd do something this based
>Losing founding members
>>48460968It’s a talent agency similar to OTK and whatever group Scarra and Sykkuno is in, they don’t own anything about the talents. A lot of them probably got headhunted by Mythic, an agency under OTK.
>>48461259tsmt
All because they couldn't agree whether or not to support the cause Silvervale was like "is it really friends if you're not there for one another"
>>48461111They have been saved and no longer need it. Simple asRemember, NO CONS
>>48461139It’s because of her own efforts and connections. Heck she probably got the vshojo collab with yakuza too. That connection was by the way established when she was coco
>>48460766HOOKERS AND BLOW!
>>48461259I want her to give birth on stream (for real this time)
>>48460935Oh shit that might actually be possible >>48460706$11 MILLION DOKO??? Like for reals what have they done for the girls that were already there?? They were the reason they even got the $11 million to begin with lmao
>>48459186She's pregernante.
VShitshow!
>>48461139She didn't "win" anything, she just made it to the finalsAlso she's gonna get as much viewers from this as PeachMilky got from RE4make at best
>>48461286Really wonder why they just didn’t announce it at the same time
>>48461286They have no management it's just gunrun on his phoneWestern tech start ups are scams
this is how the downfall of Tsunderia started.
What is she thinking right now?
How long until Vshojo is just Ironlung, Kson and Nazuna?
>>48460253Shitty ass contracts, just like what Vei said.
>>48460279Why only just now?
>>48459443kson will keep on shilling them and pretend that everything is fine
>>48459186Damn, that was one of the flagship members, huh? The only member left that actually gets viewers is the mouse. 3 Members gone in under a week is pretty bad.
>>48461262NTA but Gura has been groomed since she showed up on the internet
>>48460906>because none of the talents were savvy when they first joined and didn't get that sourcing merch is easy as fuck nowadaysIs that true, though? All Kson attempts at merch failed horribly before she joined VShojo, and she should’ve had plenty of experience and connections from her Holo days. If even she couldn’t handle it well enough, is it that easy? (I don’t mean just merely profiting from merchs, but making at least as much as they would under a corpo)
>>48460667No Kson is not going to rejoin, the way they "fired" her is exactly what corpos do when they dont want you back.They would have straight up fired her if she hadn't been so popular.
>>48460091>>48460224>>48460777>at least we still have froot. Having froot is a bad thing btw.
>>48461286All their dogshit has always been window dressingGunrun and Mowtendoo literally just steal money from these girls
>>48459251If anything vshojo good now
>>48461349>>48461356>four seconds apart
>>48461311Except Vshojo failed to get them any notable sponsors in the 2+ years they were around. I think they got maybe 2 gacha sponsors that everyone gets?
>>48461181MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>48459186It's unironically joever....
>>48461274I'm ootl and don't follow kson, got a clip?
Was the contract that shitty? They will fade into irrelevancy without their top founding talent
>>48461304ICAN'TGETTALENT
>>48461382>BAKA MITAI
>Play my game, Vshojo. I don't want to have to use the killing curse a 4th time...
>>48461259>average Vshowhore fanThanks God the company is falling apart.
>>48459186Proof that Froot is the cancer of the industry. Stay the fuck away from tranny-enablers.
>>48461348Actually gunruns superior business prowess is why so he gave himself an 11 million raise to match inflation
>>48461170this is peak nyaners
>>48461382Pizza.
Froot had no idea she was bringing about the collapse of Vshojo when she stabbed Silver in the back LMAO, serves that bitch right
>>48461382She got what she wanted from Vshojo's tech so I can only hope that she jumps ship when her contract expires.
>>48461382God I miss getting $120,000 a month as coco. All I had to do was apologise.
>>48461382>man what fucks are these menheras doingShe really should push for more jp members, is obvious the current western side doesnt care.
>>48461415>They fired her>She literally dives in front of bullets to defend Hololive and all its vtubersChing chong bing bong Artia is never coming back
>>48461415Cope ksonshart, she wanted to leave. Nobody forced her to
they own their models? im hating the fish more every day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE1Fh1AgWQ
When are the rrats coming, I want to read the ridiculous stuff like probably Froot making seethe with her bullshit so hard they just wanted to fuck off and turns out ironmouse's illness was overblown for pity money and constantly bragged in internal comms about how being a bedpinned slut with a gorillion models made her better than the other whores.Where are the rrats
>>48461349>>48461356dragoonmind...
>>48461382Probably thinking of bailing as soon as the contract expires too.
>>48461181No way this happens after all, we'd all be forced to kneel and never say anything bad about jannies ever again...
>>48459879She'll be fine, if and when she leaves which will likely be next year.
>>48461436Freedom (from) Talent
>>48461484she'd still make a fine slam pig
>>48461419Guess where most merchandise is manufactured? Guess who Kson is blacklisted by?
I want to know what’s going on behind the scenes soooooo bad reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>48461412that's literally nyanners
>>48461415Least delusional tatsucuck
>>48461484look like an orc next to them
>TALENT FREEDOMTALENT LEAVESSASUGA
>already removedhttps://www.vshojo.com/talent
>>48461484the power on that smug
>>48461488I love karma
>>48460582Nyanners wants this gone.
>>48459186It's unironically over for Vshojo, and the only one I feel bad for is Nazuna.
>>48461437DORE DAKE TSUYOI OSAKE DEMOOOO
TALENT FREEDOM TO FUCKING LEAVE LMAO
>>48459879Who were her friends she wanted to hangout with in Vshojo anyway?
>>48461181It helps to link the video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bHimOJb-Xw
>>48461181DO IT
>>48461525The one who dived in front of bullets was FBK. She had to contend with chinks for longer than Coco did at this point. kson is just a coward running away from the results of her own actions. She'll run away from this, too.
Idk what the big deal is when staying or leaving makes no difference at all, might as well dissolve it at this point
LMAO WHAT
>>48461640retard
>Gura copies everything Nyanners does>Nyanners leaves her corpo
>>48461484one in the cream dress is actually pretty cute, but then again anything will look cute next to that orca
>>48459186What the fuck is going on?
>The thread is now a sticky.
LOL STICKY
STICKY
>stickiedholy shit
So Vshojo is basically just Mouse/Froot club now lol. Michael Cat sure made a smart decision listening to Kson instead of just staying indie
>This thread is now a stickyCRAB RAVE
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postan in a sticky>>48459186lmao
>The thread is now a stickyLETS FUCKING GOOOOOWHERE'S POMF POMF?
>>48461201It is exactly because of coomerbait, zoomer humor, and leeching off popular non-vtuber streamers
>>48459186Kekshojo
>now a sticky
>>48461484they all look so old now...is this what the wall does to japanese women?turns them into having milf bodies?
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
>>48461596The sister of light...and the sister of dark.
>>48461484I would smash all of them
>>48461707Do hololives keep their characters?
>>48461622Honestly can't believe these ads are real now that I think about it. Are they in Japan too?
>The thread is now a sticky.Ready for the shitshow
>>48461348>"enhance Vtuber's presence at events" Ah so they spent all that money to get Ironmouse that fake ass vtuber trophy and the other girls felt shafted lmao.
>Thread has essentially devolved into just hating on Kson.Bug infestation afoot.
WE STICKY NOW
ALL GENERALS REPORT IN
>>48460146Lol
>>48461181JANNIES PLEASE I BEG YOU
What are the chances of Mousey leaving?
>>48459443I blame Kson
https://youtu.be/II04E2GEJG8YOU DIDN'T DESERVE SHIT AT ALL NYANNERSGET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE YOU FUCKING GRIFTER
>>48460460
stickieded
>>48460924vshojoJP is going absolutely nowhere, i think they expected former corporate vtubers to just flock to join them or kson recruiting more of her friends in the industry or something. obviously that's not happening. she should just quit, it was a mistake to even get roped in to joining an english focused vtubing company by kson.
>>48459186uh uh the stickypostin an bussin in the sticky
HOLY CRAP POSTING IN A STICKY!!!!!!!!!
>>48461746Why the fuck does Froot deserve her name in it vs the other shitters they still have left?It's the Mouse club.
>>48460973Received support from fans on 4chan to become a Vtuber. Turns her back on them by making woke statements to please the twitter crowd. Also flesh tubing.
Why does Vshojo get 2 stickies in one week? Nijisanji didn't even get one for their new wave.
Holy fuck kekVSHOUJO IS DEAD
Alright lads, one last time.PINK CAT BAD
>>48461801Nah I am white as fuck and I can agree Kson was a mistake... I miss that bitch Coco...
posting in sticky
OP here. Proud of my first /vt/ sticky.=3
>>48459477WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FROG HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?
>sticky threadThe posts in this thread will be of the highest quality, I'm sure of it.
>>48461785no, noway
>>48461484people hating on kson because she can't stop winning, real fans love her, she's going to be part of a yakuza game and interact with kiryu which was her dreamYou can say i'm a retard all you want for loving her but you can't prove me wrong
>>48461759no, it's called a unique talent stack. I know you won't understand, that's okay. Like I said, I don't expect /here/ to get it.
>>48459443/
>>48461824/hlg/
>The thread is now a sticky.Front row seats to the collapse of Vshojo
>>48459186>the worst vtubing company is finally dead
>>48459774miguel gato love!
>>48460973She's a bitch ass nigga, thats why.
threads going so fast, no one will hear me squeeb
Why the fuck did THIS get stickied?
>>48461181MODS DO IT
Bad advice Korone reporting for duty!
Stream Astrogirl
>>48461671DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR ONCE JANNIES
>>48459186OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAToo bad it's not Froot
>>48460924I mean if she got the checkmark she's not next. They're hardly going to pay for a checkmark for someone who is leaving soon. I think they're culling the herd so they can afford to hire some more JP talent.
>>48461824Global standing by!
Why do you fags think she'll be pissed by pomf? She literally made fun of it multiple times, and said that she'd sing if it weren't for Twitch TOS.
>>48461900>Nijisanji didn't even get one for their new wave.They have a new wave every couple weeks, who cares. Nijisanji just throwing shit at the wall and hoping some of it sticks.
WHO IS THE SCHIZO NOW, HUH?!?>APOLOGIZE!
>>48460541>This past month has been the Earth weeping over the Crucifixion of Christ but for VTubing and this is Coup-de-GraceIt would check out
LOLLMAOROFLCOPTER>verification not required
>>48460783That's why most agencies with this sort of business model keeps adding smaller indies to grow since their biggest cash-out will be from the mid-sized members of their roster. Having three new members after three years is pathetic, they needed to up the pace a lot sooner if this was supposed to be an actual company.
>>48461979Based space baby
>>48461671>>48461181MODS PLAY POMF POMFPLEASE
Stop posting sad Rushias.
>>48460988>considers himself superior to brain-addled potterverse normies>is a wehraboo who turns everything into a ww2 analogy
>sticky for pink cat
>>48459186Turns out you need to do shit to make employees stay
>>48461842Fuck the duck until exploded
So this is it The final yab of our time
>>48461824/watamelon/
VSHOJO COUNTRYLETS RIDE
>>48460783That anon was probably referring to >>48460048I actually watched that stream...
>>48459186RIP BOZORest In Piss you won't be missed
It's fine guys, it's not like Kson completely burned bridges with joining vshojo and implying Hololive was some black company. The best part of vshojo collapsing will be that they brought in a certain someone who is batshit and will likely leak everything later on as she already hates the company
>>48461824/hlgg/ here, unfortunately this isn't a total graduation, but it's a start.
postan in sticky thred
>>48461746Michael Cat still has the actual Michael Cat on youtubeIt's kson who's gonna have to carry the weight
>>48461824/jidf/ in position!
forsen
Get Rushia out of this company
Where were you when Vshoujo was kill?
>>48461824/dsw/
>>48461910PINK CAT HATE!
>>48459186How does VShojo recover from this?Can they even recover?
Vshojo turned out to unironically be a black company
>>48461402>got her chunk of the $11 million to joinWell vshojo better get at least a fraction back of their investment
>>48461435I actually dunno if it got clipped, but here's translation from Taishi, who I believe has been reliably translating for her for a long time.
>>48460420They successfully end themselves all the time too, big deal.
>>48462056The final yab is Pippa, this has been known for a while now. She is the apocalypse of vtubers.
>>48460973Her IRL roommate is cute but she never had a good enough personality for me to watch her after she became a vtuber. I am in the minority here but if you are going to stream as an idol you need to be an idol etc.
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1652810486440755202what the hell did she mean by this
WHERE IS LULUS STICKY?WHERE THE FUCK IS HER STICKY?
>>48461824/#/
>>48460324Only thing vshojo actually good for is greasing up Twitch whenever a copyright complaint threatens their stream. They barely market their streamers outside the push in Japan when they signed kson cause they thought they could snipe more holo talents with the "talent freedom" gimmick. There's no team cohesion in vshojo; management won't back their talents when they're harassed, and members will literally throw each other under the bus at any opportune moment. Even the Mouse, who gets propped up like a patron saint, is petty as fuck behind the scenes. On top of all this, vshojo is re-doing their contract, and likely asking for a bigger cut of the donations without doing jack shit about their internal problems, so the talents are walking out.Turns out, there's a reason Cover has their rules and its why they function relatively well compared to other agencies.
>>48462086>The best part of vshojo collapsing will be that they brought in a certain someone who is batshit and will likely leak everything later on as she already hates the companysoon
>>48461900Stickies are meant to clean up the catalog, so people don't make ten threads for the same topic. No one is going to create ten threads for a niji wave.
'ostin' in da 'icky
>>48461824/waifu/ standing by.
>>48462135Yeah he's reliable, thanks a bunch anon
>>48461824/HAHA/ here
Time to inject new blood AND PUT FUCKING SNUFFY IN VSHOJO SHE DESVERS IT, GUNRUN YOU RETARD
>>48461785No, for the best
>>48461824/vsinger/ standing by
>>48461521Coco did nothing wrong, insect
LMFAOOOO NO WAAAY LETS GOOOO HAHAHAHAHAAHA.
>>48459186Weren't Pikamee and Akari supposed to join? As in they left their companies to join kekson
>>48462155Sticky for what?
>>48462038>posts Faunayou do know that she's a fan of pink cat right?
>>48460988>Losing the biggest whores in the company who damaged the brandGoes to shit. Vshojo is just firing Froot away and hiring 3 new JP talents from being a decent whatever they are.
>>48462035Keep posting sad Rushias
>>48461824Himemori Luna ready for action
>>48461671>>48461181
>>48462153Why didn’t she @ her?
So who is next?
this has to be the happiest graduation there's ever been https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdlXdJReh3U
>>48461690Even months after her graduation, she still said she was willing to spend her own money and time to sue faggots who were attacking Hololive & Cover. Can’t tell how she and Hololive might feel about each other now, but they definitely were still in good terms at least back then - it’s fair to assume neither of them had any major issue with what the other did
>>48462150Fuck off, Henri
>>48461824/wAIfu/ standing by.
>>48459186How does the Lemon woman keep getting away with it?
TOSTAN IN EBIN STICKY BREAD
roru rorurumao rumao
>>48461824/pcg/ AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>48461824/pcg/ reportingactivating the smug reflector
>>48461874I'm pretty sure she did it just to have a place for Rushia/Michael to stay t b h. In other words good intentions for trying to support her friend, but it may end up backfiring unfortunately.
>>48461965i heard
>>48461824/pcg/ ready for conquest
Pikamee and Akari for the love of god please don't join this shitshow
>>48461824baka>>48461976
>30mins ago>400 replies>This NEEDED a stickyglad the way its determined if your chuuba gets a sticky is if you have a tranny janny in the fanbase
>>48460973unironically she was a bitch to femanons behind the scenesthis board loves female gossipthat and the woke stuff but i really dont care about that
Can Uto/Akari/Pikamee save them when they join?
I mean, is this really a big deal for her?I mean yea Vshojo is fucked forever but>Keeps her model>Will still stream>Will be independentI don't see how this is badI don't even understand why they made Vshojo a company anyways I thought it was just a group of friends
>>48461419If anything her being a former Holo means Cover covered all that for her so she probably just approved designs and kept doing streams.If anything Kson doesn't strike me as the most business savvy content creator i've seen.
>>48460324turns out, the gunrun is just fattening his fat ass and his pockets
>>48462011NEVER stop noticing things. Schizos will inherit the earth
>>48460988>stayed neutral>mass their army on germany's border hmmm
What the fuck happened, like actually what the fuck? Is this trannies? Is this legit the cause of trannies?
>>48461931Most reasonable tatsunoko/ksongumi
KOYO FUCKING WON
>>48462011I KNEEL............
>>48459186>A SECOND YAB HAS HIT VSHOJO>A SECOND YAB HAS HIT VSHOJO>A SECOND YAB HAS HIT VSHOJO
>>48462150the last horse man for sure
Who /sp/ here?How's the transfer window looking for vtubers?
>>48459477>silver >top talent Lol
>>48461824/become/
Posting a meme I stole from Twitter
>>48462086>>48462175Menheras are ALWAYS a ticking time bomb. You can use this to your advantage.
>>48462135bruh at least get a better res image, I can't see shit.
>>48459186FUCK YESVSHOJO IS NOW 25% BETTER
>>48461931You are a retard. Literal pornstars got to "interact with Kiryu", what an achievement. I don't even know who the fuck Eri from Y7 is IRL, that's how low the bar is.
>>48461435>>48462135 Here's the full transcript, not exactly detailed per se, take your time reading through it.
>>48461824/pol/ka in position
>>48461824/hag/ ready to go
>>48461707>Gura copies everything Nyanners doesthe fake is of far greater value than the original
>>48461824Just happy to be here
>>48462321sauce?
https://youtu.be/D53M1vVF2N4BYE BYE BYEEVERYONE GETS TO CELEBRATE
>>48461262Yeah, I hate her, too.
>>48462186You want her in a broken dying company? Why?
>stickyPOMF POMF
>>48461431It's not just about the notable sponsors (which they did still fail at) it's about the split they get. Devin Nash has talked about it before but a lot of the "generic" deals people get are just that, generic. They're mostly automated and sent to some retard intern to make sure you do it, they don't take into consideration your actual influence or worth the way some agencies do and since it means more money for both you and the agency they're more likely to get you a better deal.
>>48462073>mfw Vshoujo
>>48459186I thought there were no cons?
>>48461824/∞/ here, don't visit us.
>>48462302It's more about VKeks catching instant karma
>>48462330
This is the creative freedom Kson desired.
>>48459186but Kson said there were only pros and no cons..
Reminder that this cat has been ORANGE'D and is made for BKC
>>48459443She'd self destruct without any management. Even Vshojo is better then nothing for her.
>>48459186What are the chances she returns to her roots now and tries to regain her lost audience no that she dropped the shackles of Vshojo?
>>48461181I'd never say anything mean about jannies ever again for a good 3 months if they did this
>>48459186PChud herePHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>48461824/manstars/
>>48461824/ししらみ/ ready for orders
How is Vshojo management fucking up those contracts so much that these dumb bitches are leaving?
KEKGET FUCKED
>>48462302>It was just a group of friendsUNTIL THEY GOT $11 MILLION AND NO ONE GOT ANYTHING OUT OF IT
>>48459774I'm going to miss her design. Its legit so good.
gura lazy deflection thread
>>48033116>>48008565>>48002193
>>48459186>Niji isn’t even the best at having untamed whores cause dramaRiku can’t catch a break
>>48462302No more action figures unless she pays for herself, that's the only thing vshoujo does
>>48461824/VOMS/ REPORTING!!THEY GET WHAT THEY FUCKING DESERVE!!
>>48461382Kazuya Mishima
>>48462498That's not a real general
>>48461419It's moreso handlnig all the jew work behind the scenes
>>48462153Snake
>>48461801You had to see it coming the moment you read the resignation.
>>48462428imagine being mel and seeing everything you worked for collapse because of a fat 35 year old atlantan happa
>>48459186posting in epic thread
>>48462344Holy kek
Vshojo will be home pure with only the JP branch running
Who ready for more to fuck off
>>48461824/a/ reporting
>>48460973i'm just following /a/'s hivemind from ten years ago
>>48462289Kson will leave with Nazuna and start vTuber Kollective together with Pikamee and Akari.The reason why Kson is unbothered and Nazuna just got a checkmark is because obviously they're keeping these IPs/models anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBNNlyI0Dn4total /vt/ victory
>>48462356thanks, this one is easier to read
>>48461824/haha/HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>48461181DO IT FAGGOTS
>>48462330>If only you know how bad things really are.
>>48461965$350 fine, fucker.
>>48461824/pcg/ reporting in. Get fucked /vsj+/, this is what you get for gloating about Yuri.
>>48459774>be kson>have savior complex>save your co-worker into a company where she can do anything>it crashes and burns>all the effort for nothingBut hey at least she will be in the next Yakuza game
Jesus...https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652818982821568512
>>48462588wtf
>>48462588TALENT FREEDOM!!!!!
>>48462302It's not, this thread is just filled with grudgeposts by pcg anons and people who want to shit on vshojo for being a terrible company (this isn't news)
>>48461946Brutal
>>48461488Heil Hitler
>>48459186>Imagine your need to score internet brownie point brought down the company
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO This is a good way to kick start the new month. Hoping that Froot is next.
>>48459186>>48459774J U S T
>>48461348$11 million actually doesn't go very far when you're based in SF
>>48462588JESAS lol what happened to talent freedom?
>>48462588ITS FUCKING REALHOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Don't worry bro.Nyanners, Silvervale, Veibae and Pikamee may establish a new company
>>48459965I'm glad /holoX/ didn't win then.
April just keeps on giving huh
>>48462640>ISREALTHERE'S NO FUCKING WAY
>>48462543It didn't feel right to say /stars/ and /MANS/>>48462438There are no cons because they can run away with their models for free
>>48462640How does this keep happening
>>48462588>>48462640Kson already desperate I see
>>48459251I dunno about bad, but I'd have a hard time watching a streamer who actively hates me so I don't.
>>48461623What a sad talent page. They can dig through the audition piles and fill the gaps maybe kek
>>48462640
>>48462588Cope the tweet
>>48461824/tsunX/ standing byHaruka...
>>48461824/sci/ reporting in
>>48459251She is less bad now than she was before. At the very least.
>>48461824/nene/ reporting for duty!
>>48462302Honestly I don't understand what Vshojo actually is at this point. Like if she can leave and still keep her model, character, AND collab with the other members then... what was the point of being there in the first place?
What do they expect from a company that does LGBT events?
>>48462168vshojo wouldn't want to upset the troons by taking the same stance as nijisanji or hololive and threatening legal action against harrassers.
>>48459186Oh nyo~
>>48461965Do not squeebDo not squeeb
>>48462588It keeps getting better and better holy shit.
>>48462421Which is something that Vshojo also failed at. To sum it up, they got them con presence and a GSC merch deal but Vshojo takes 100% of merch revenue so that means fuck all to them.
What did they put in this fucking new contract that made all of them leave lmao
>>48461824/holox/ hereI love the orca
>>48462508
>>48462640NO CONS LMAAOOOOOO
>>48462588>It's real even translating it through DeepLI know this is supposed to be a jab but holy fuck it sounds so bad saying it right now
>Even after all these drops, they STILL won't pick up snuffyIt's gotta sting
>>48461979based cunt
>>48461824/vg/ reporting in I'm so happy that the pink shit cat is leaving
>>48462708is tsunderia all over again eh kana
>>48462588No downsides in vshojo huh?
>>48462640>>48462588WEW
>>48462640>israelHOLY KEK
>>48462588>CONS:NOTHING
TOTAL VSHOJO DEATH
>>48462772>You need to stream
>>48462640lmao.......
>>48462738As the other anon stated, $11million for merch and events and all of that shit. The company pays for all the shit (like every other corpo)
>>48462588https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652818982821568512
>>48459186Talent freedom am i right fellas?
ETA FOR IRONLUNG?
>>48462588>>48462640OH NONONONO SHILL BROS WE LOST
>>48461824/pkg/Have we started the fire?
>>48459186>BFs fucked everything (literally and metaphorically)
>>48462640>ISREAL
>>48461824/aa + corpo/ represent
>>48460225Isn't she like 36 now? You can legally watch porn of women half her age
>>48462588>israel>>48461066>>48461202uhhhhhh ksonbros??
>>48461824/ag/ here. A new age of Pink Fat is about to begin
>>48462640>https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652818982821568512Holy fuck it's unironically truly over
>>48462772They had to start making money eventually. The magical no-cons business model couldn't keep running on the power of make-belief any longer.
OMEGA KEKNICE TALENT FREEDOM
>>48462588>REVERSALREVERSAL
>>48461824/same/ smoking that pink pack tonight
So does this prove that Nux was right and Melody should have sided with him over pink attention whore cat and bootleg Shylily?
>>48462775That's a Wamy, not a Lamy.
>>48461824/vg/ here.
>>48459186how is this possible kson told me other corpos are like slavery
>>48462640>It's realWHAT THE FUCK
>>48462829Vshitjo anon....simple spell mistake.
I thought they are sure to win with their superior talent freedom
>>48462588What the ACTUAL fuck is going on
>>48462788Snuffy knew not to join in them from the very beginning.She's pretty smart for a degenerate freak.
>>48461801Nah, she's shown that she's not really all that trustworthy over the years since the firing by doing dumb shit as herself.
>>48462788?>>48462411
>>48462793>>48461979>>48462027
>>48462588>NO CONSSO THAT WAS A FUCKING LIE PWAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
>>48462246They likely woulda allowed her to come back if she so wanted before she joined vshojo, but joining them and trying to sell that "talent freedom" gimmick in Japan, acting like Cover was a concentration camp when Cover pretty much let her do as she wished until the Taiwan thing, and then went and sniped Rushia after they fired her for doxxing almost as a "fuck you" was probably was seen as a betrayal
How fucking bad could the contracts have been?
>>48459186AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEE
EVERYBODY LAUGH AT VSHOJO
>>48459186BASED BASED BASEDVSHOJO WILL PERISH IN FLAMES
>>48462919TALENT FREEDOM!!!!!
>>48460973hag but uncool. If hags are not chill they're useless
>>48462640This is actual anti behavior. What the fuck is going on over there?
Holy shit, it's actually over.
>>48462588>>48462640Kson, have you ever heard of... "Hololive English"?
Hololive won. Unicorns won.
>>48461824
>>48462588THE COLLAPSE IS HAPPENING
>>48462640>palestinian territory
>>48461824/ringo/ all juiced up
>NO CONS
>>48460401https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC9ruVYPv7yJmV0Rh0NKA-Lw>1330 average viewersShe really that low... all she had to do was stay...
>>48461824/hag/ on standby
Vshojo is crumbling one by one and I'm here for it.
>>48462770I'm starting to think we should go back.
>>48461824/jidf/ reporting. Mossad in position.
payback for all the gloatposting after divegrass
>>48462640>isrealNICE COMPANY GUNRUN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>48462769>Vshojo takes 100% of merch revenuewas that ever confirmed
>>48462588That’s some fast damage control while throwing shades at other corpos unprovoked
>>484626943 of those streamers are joining OTK
Real talk, why are they suddenly bleeding talents?I dont watch vshojo.
>>48461382I don't know, it's a mystery.
>>48462588I actually like Kson but my god if this isn't an "OH NO NO NO NO" moment then idk what is
>>48462123Debut Pikamee, Lulu, and Zaion to replace the whores
THE RRATS ARE FLEEING THE SINKING VSHOJO SHIP
I came here to laugh at Vshojo
i'm guessing vshojo's old contract allowed that sweet sweet talent freedom, and the new contract they're pushing simply doesn't, and so everyone is jumping ship
>>48462588>real
>>48460973I don't hate her but she's a fucking hypocrite.
>>48462640>ISREALHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>48462640>talent freedom>help no strings attached>not a corpo
>>48462868yes, and?
>>48463025What does the reddit frog have to do with vtubing?
>>48462588KSON JUST LEAVE AND JUMP SHIP ALREADY
>>48462876PINK FAT GOOD
>>48462977kek
>>48461824/jidf/, having a laugh.
>>48462640>>48463050deepl translation
>>48462977Is there possibility for cover to rehired back Kson? Is it what you hololive fans want?
>>48462640I generally distrust google translate as it is usually shit but... isreal...
>>48462901I see, carry on then
>>48463049>dont watch vshojo
>>48459680SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH ITdo it again lemon woman!
>Vshojo fans trying to do damage control when everyone is desperate to leaveEven if no rrat is true there's got to be something horrendous about their management.
>>48461824/vt/uber drawthread reporting in.
>>48463036Iirc when Kson did the stump speech in favor of Vshojo she described buying merch as "if you want to support Vshojo, please buy merch!" or something.
>>48461824/hfz/ reporting in
>>48461824/ppg/ reporting in. Upset that this going to take attention away from our already attention starved general.
https://discord.gg/VXNjP7mE
No streams org? More like no members org.
>>48463049Froot and fruits.
all because froot couldn't at the very least shut the fuck up if she didnt want to stick up for silvervale who was being harassed, talent freedom apparently means freedom to burn everything down for your own ego.
IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING, IT JUST KEEPS TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN
>>48462997>Last 7 Days Revenue ¥2,299,781She must be starving...
>>48462640It's never been more over than it is at this very minute, my god
What music goes with this?
>>48461824/∆/ herelol
>>48461824/uuu2/ reporting in
>>48461382She's gonna do a vshojo coup.
>>48462640So she conned Nazuna into joining that shitty company and now she talks shit about it?
>>48461382>I let Hololive's mascot become some overweight retarded sharkgirl while Rushia and I sit at 3k views tops
Phasefags are about to get even more annoying
>>48461824/same/ reporting in
>>48463227https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoKluzn07eQ
Place your bets on whether Kson will be a gravure model by the end of the year.
Freedombros...why do they keep leaving, we are their saviors....
>>48463049Shut up you fucking NEIGGER
>>48462526BASED grudgeposter
why does this warrant a pin?
>for all the videos she deleted, she never deleted this one for some reasonhttps://youtu.be/6YqryIRkR_4
>>48461824/wah/ reporting in!
>>48463156Nah we rather take Rushia back. At least she would be controlled some since she actually misses it. Kson is the type that she would still try and keep breaking down the walls and act the same way.
gee, vhoejo, TWO stickies in a row?
>>48462588christ, i wonder how bad the new contract is
>>48463227POMF POMF KIMOCHI
>>48463260just you fucking wait
>>48462539RETRIBUTION FOR THE KETTLE
>>48462526
>>48463309not attractive enough, she'll need to do fucked up JAV instead
>>48463260No I'm getting comfy
>>48462640Lmao eat shit kson
>>48461824The Luna Thread has arrived
>>48461382She will defend this company to it's last breath
>>48461824/ggg/ reporting for duty, our oshi doesn't stream so we have a lot of spare time
A wonderful day
>>48462198post your favorite nyanner songs >>48462331
>>48463235that's /#/ isn't it
>>48459680I KNEEL YELLOW WOMAN
>>48459186Thread theme songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1NrQYXjLU
DOWN WITH THE WHORES!!!
>>48460984This would be even funnier if Mori went through with that hiatus she was originally going to take this monthReaper's gonna get your oshi
>>48463156Not after she joined vshojo and spit on the folks that have her a career
>>48459251She was bad before Vshojo, so nothing changed
SHE IS ABSOLUTLY TRANSITIONING TO FACECAMING 4CHANS FAVORITE FUCKED UP LITTLE EGIRL JUST *WISHES* SHE WAS LIKE POKIMANE OR AMORANTH
Posting in a sticky!
>>48463335the two nonrenewals the other day were just a grievous wound, but this triplet is the deathblow
>>48459774KEK
>>48461824/WACTOR/ ready sirsat your command sirs
>>48459186This company is finally fucking dying.
>>48463260Hey, why hating on us for? You also joined in the thread too holobrony.
>sticky
So....What went wrong? Did they try to take a bigger cut?
>>48463260Then they'll get karma'd again and lose fire another talent.
>>48463357I AM GRADUATINGTHEY'LL WATCH ME UNTILI'M FILLED WITH MY BOYFRIEND'S PENIS MILK
>>48459186wow
>>48463260nah Yuri's graduation video is dropping in an hour and all her stuff is getting deleted tomorrow
I'd have to imagine that just about everybody would be better off leaving vshojo after the first year because you got the exposure and built up audience. Don't have to give up their models and keep 100% of their earnings.
So does Mousey basically run Vshojo now?
>>48463154She fucked-up. I dunno if I should feel bad for her or not.
>>48462186Whoa there, I don't like Snuffy but she doesn't deserve to be stuck in a sinking ship with just Zen and Haruka.
>>48459186jesus
I thought Vei left because of the harassment situation and Silvervale just followed her out, but seeing Nyanners leave it makes me think maybe the contract changed
>>48461769This is a well documented fact. Japanese women, and Asian women in general, look 20 until about 50 then age overnight to 80. Apparently hafus don't get the boon, only the nerf.
>>48461824/who/ reporting in
>>48463373Nah she's famous and well connected enough that she'll manage to get a contract to do 1 or 2 gravure DVDs for sure. No more than that, obviously, but I really wonder if she would actually do JAV after that.
>>48459186I'm playing doubles advocate on this one. What if gunrun is the one in the right?Everyone here and elsewhere seems to be assuming that the new contract is shit based on what Veibae said, but we don't actually know whether that's the case. It's entirely possible that the OLD contract was shit by virtue of being too generous to the talents, in order to get them to sign on, and it left the company in a bad position. If this is the case, a new, more conservative contract would seem like a slap in the face to them. Since they get to keep their models, the main reason to not leave a company is gone, and the bigger talents now have the resources to hire people for the services that Vshojo would have provided them, so there's no reason to stay at all.
>>48462588JESAS
>>48463451Yep, whoever drew up those contracts was a fucking retard especially when they have NO hold over the talents.
>>48459774S-STOP! IT'S ALREADY DEAD!!!
Total whore death んなあああああああ
>>48463156Imagine leaving your old boss and flipping him off on the way out, then your new job explodes, and you come crawling back to your old boss.She won't do it because of pride. They won't accept her because of the shit she's said and did. Some fans will want her back and other won't and some may feel like she's desperate (Cause she would be).I loved watching her but I would not watch her if she came back. I don't think any graduated Holo can come back aside from pic and Kira (One of the oldest Stars). Everyone else graduated on bad terms
>You lived long enough to see Vshojo go up in flamesFeels great manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kguaGI7aZg
>>48463260Good.vshitsjow deserves it
>>48463159I don't know how she expects people to take a statement like that either>if you think your contract is better than ours speak upor>maybe we need to rethink how our contracts are wordedbut both sound passive aggressive
How long until Vshojo simply doesn't exist?
>>48463451my rrats - they wanted a bigger cut, changed their mind about letting talents keep their characters, and after the hogwarts drama they probably wanted to take away the talent's ability to play whatever game they want to
>>48462640I'm looking forward to nazuna leaking everything when she leaves any minute now
>>48460973>ruins her YT career by calling the fanbase she pandered to disgusting pedos>YT channel dies>Years later jumps on vtuber bandwagon to revive dead channel>already somewhat big channel so YT pushes her hard>Attaches herself to Mouse and Melody and grifts her way into an agencyyeah real mystery why people hate this bitch
>>48462772I'm wondering this too. It must be a serious imposition if it's clearing them out so quickly.
burn the company
holy shit, its imploding, i guess it wasnt from the froot shit after all? or only partially?
>>48463342>Nah we rather take Rushia back.Speak for your fucking self, I have always hated fandead
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spi6yOS6zy4
>>48459774WTF
>>48461931Anon she only got in thank to her ties with Vshojo
>>48459186isn't this whore cat the founder? it is like YAGOO leaving.
Man... This is so fucking funny. NO CONS, NO CONS, NO CONS
>>48462588LMAO
>>48463260It's funny because all of the Vshojo talents who have left will still be streaming so nothing's really going to change for their viewers, meanwhile Yuri got straight up terminated and all of her content wiped which is way worse for her fans.
I wish she makes even more money after leaving, so it inspires more people to leave their corpos
>>48463575By the end of May
>>48459774GOD PLEASE, TELL ME SHE IS LEAVING TOO
phase invaders?
damn what am I gonna do with my vshojo JP wallscroll and my nyanners comic I bought at anime expo last year
>>48463593snuffy is probably glad she didn't get in now
>>48463534anonchama if that's the case it would still mean gunrun is in the wrong
>>48463534Hololive contract>You will not be a whoreVshojo contract v1>Lmao sure you can have sex on stream who caresVshojo contract v2>Try not to be a whore
>>48461824/uoh/ reporting in
>>48462588Prism gen 6.
>>48461382whoopsie daisies
>>48460867She would destroy her Hololive fanbase by abandoning Nazuna and her Vshojo fanbase by abandoning the sinking ship. She'll probably try to negotiate first before doing something that stupid.
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652823117222539265"It's natural to want to switch jobs to a place that values you highly, both in society and in the Vtuber industry, isn't it? "
https://discord.gg/VXNjP7mEhttps://discord.gg/VXNjP7mEhttps://discord.gg/VXNjP7mE
WHO'S. NEXT.
Fucking kekson lmao>Jump out of Holo>Call yourself and indie, act like you love being one and it's all you're about>Join Vshojo literally an exact year from when you jumped ship from Holo>Now that things are going tits up for them INSTANTLY start sniffing around for another contract to sign>Probably still going to call herself an indiePlus you fucking KNOW the jewcorp is absolutely drooling over that tweet
>>48463590Go back to China, sex.
>>48463563hey chang, dont you have bbc porn to spam on some other boards?
>>48461910PINK CAT INDIFFERENCE
>>48461382>SO MUCH TALENT FREEDOM AAAAAAAAAAAAA IM CUMMING
If the rrats are true, there's a very good chance that VshojoJP will outnumber the main group very soon.
>>48463156After that retarded stream she had about >NO CONS JOINING VSHOJO and>TALENT FREEDOMno fucking way
>>48463690IT'S SO OVER
>>48462588HOLY KEK
>>48463534Still on Gunrun for making a way to lenient initial contract.
>>48463693buy an ad you cuck
>>48461824/haha/ here and laughing
>>48462977PFFFFT
>>48461382NO CONS
>>48463663my oshi is safe for now
>>48462588????
>>48463719The only two japanese talents are already setting themselves up for leaving
>>48459186>gets a stickyAUTOPLAY POMFPOMF YOU COWARDSalso this just shows bias given Yuri and Riifu didn't get stickied
>>48460973just annoying and a wannabe
>>48462588Nazuna...deserved it.
>>48461824/HiRyS/ reporting in
YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
>>48459186ELMAAAAAAO VSHOJO IS OVER
>>48459186>Be Froot>Instead of helping your twin through whatever depression they clearly must be going trough to think 'I hate my gender' like an empathetic human being, help waste hundreds of thousands on treatments and surgeries>Now stuck having to side with transgenderism, which happens to be filled with people who will send death threats to good people like Pikamee because they're too mentally unstable to understand the pariah they hate makes next to no money off the game they're boycotting>Stabs a friend in the back by calling the act of playing a video game 'A mistake' which leads to her rightfully feeling hurt and betrayed and exposes who she stands with>This leads to the entire corporation she works for to collapse as now half it's big earners are gone and the other half probably won't be able to pick up the slack meaning Froot can't pay her twin's constant hormone treatments which will proably lead to them suciding because their crutch to their depression problem is gone.Was it all worth it Froot?
>>48463696She is, unironically, the fakest, biggest snake I've seen in a while LOL
>>48463705Based retard
So, whatever happened to those auditions for a new gen?
>>48462846>>48462588WHAT THE FUCK
NO MORE WHORES!!!
I want your drama, the touch of your hand (hey)I want your leather-studded kiss in the sandI want your loveLove, love, love, I want your love (love, love, love)(I want your love)You know that I want youAnd you know that I need youI want it bad, your bad romanceI want your love, and I want your revengeYou and me could write a bad romance (oh-oh-oh-oh-oh)I want your love and all your lover's revengeYou and me could make a black companyOh-oh-oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-ohCaught in a black companyOh-oh-oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-ohCaught in a black company
>>48463702NYO
So, is Pink Cat's next stream going to be here talking about how much she despised her co-workers?
>>48463775>Riifuwho?
how the fuck did we go from one guy on youtube making funny tf2 touhou old spice snoop dogg mashups to whatever the fuck is happening right now?
>>48463696If idol corp is smart, they'll not touch KSON at this point. She's clearly cursed.
>Play some upbeat music>Reading this threadaw this is the good shit.
>>48463666>>48463745You're right, poor choice of words on my part. I mean it would be right of him to correct his initial mistake, but that would still cause this problem now.
>>48461824/vtwbg/ reporting in
>>48463775>AUTOPLAY POMFPOMF YOU COWARDSThis, do it.
>>48463688kson and Nazuna joined at the same time so they can easily leave at the same time as well.
>>48459642>Rushia when she's not on break due to starting shit with every other female vtuber,You mean when she's not being name dropped by a menhera
At this point what does the company offer? The 'no restrictions' means it's basically just indies who occasionally got events together. Their individual streams and even collabs don't have any unique brand. It's just a club were the streamers exist even if the brand doesn't.
So who ready for Vshojo JP and the 3 who gone to join another corp
Besides Mouse, did Nyan, Silver, and Vei have the highest ccv in vshojo?
>>48463260*phases in*
>>48459186i thought she own part of the company
>>48463667VShojo contract v2 realizes that you need to not be whores to have sponsorships and business dealings I guess huh? Guess Hololive got it right. Where do the other corpos stand as far as this goes?
>>48462868Hag love
>>48459186Holy shit, isn't this the third one? Why they all leaving now
Here is your competition vshojo keks.
THE GREAT VSHOJO HOLOCAUST
>>48463775Riifu got fired too? Guess that's what you get for being a whore on Youtube and twitter lol. I don't know who Yuri is.
>>48462588I just can't think of any company where most people seem happy.
>>48463839Capitalism
>Nyanners leavingI remember her rendition of hypnotize
>>48463822That doesn't even rhyme
>>48463156she's more apt to join Phase Connect 2bh but the company wants to expand into China so idk
>>48460268I hope my girlfriend stays away from Vshitshow.
>>48463903it might have something to so with this >>48462640
>>48463918>implying Vshojosharts have a chance
>>48462977>Kson, have you ever heard of... "Hololive English"?lmaaaaaaaaaao
>>48462588No way this is real
this company has always been ran really shitty. constantly cancelling events and shit. delaying merch, etc...
>>48463926the phase connect squibby cat who got fired and is getting deleted despite joining as a phase invader
>>48463932because most companies are shit and have too much power and say over their employees
>niji dead>vshojo deadHoly shit did Hololive just won?
>>48463156No. Coco had a handful of good ideas that eventually got played out, Asacoco news and meme review. She did nothing new or creative since she graduated, she only ever had those two cards and she played them. The only people who care about her anymore are the twitter types who love eceleb worship for the sake of eceleb worship and her "legacy".She has no more value and she knows it.
>>48463534If this kind of org can't provide talents with support services for a smaller cut than it would cost them to hire help themselves, then what would be the point of the org existing in the first place? Economies of scale alone should make this somewhat viable if run competently.
>>48463156Kson could rejoin, I think, but Rushia was fired so she has no chance.
>>48462588o-FUCKING-wari da
>>48461824/総長/ here. I have no strong feelings on any of this. I've never watched Nyanners, except when she colled with my oshi. I only care about Kson.
>>48463886>>48463886>>48463886Anyone know? Also how do I check myself
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652823117222539265
So what exactly does Kson want? its clearly not freedom.
>>48463745>>48463534Nice Cope where is the $11 million you got from investors GunRun??
>>48463899>family friendly is more advertiser friendlyThis always seem to catch people by surprise for some reason
I look away for one second and vshojo falls apartso likeit's just gonna fucking fully die soon right? they are hemorrhaging talent like there's no tomorrow and there's nothing they can do to stop them since they basically own nothing of any actual importance, the talents probably realised they can just leave and keep EVERYTHING and actually do whatever the fuck they want on their own
>>48464016hololive has always won
>>48463874>>48463775There's a vshojo janny, he'd have an absolute fucking fit if they did.The actually cool jannys (there's like 2) probably want to though
>>48464004Oh the one that did a donothon then quit like right after. I member now.
>>48464016>Hololive wins by doing nothing.webm
>>48463877Well yes. But trying to tard wrangle Nazuna could go a lot of ways you see.
>>48461824/meat/CHAD reporting in
>>48459186okay, i think vshojo is actually done
>>48463802>we all make mistakes
>>48464066Yeah, I mean, there's more positives as a business to remain as ad friendly as possible and all they ask for is not to be whores. It's a no brainer really.
>>48464061Jesus fucking christ Holo got the longest loyalty out of someone with this attitude.
>>48462356tl;dr she thinks it's fine for people disliking vtubers having boyfriends but thinks that forbidding girls from interacting with guys at all is going too far and associates that with being a corporate drone with none of their own identity. And also she thinks that people hate Vshojo for interacting with guys and not for their conduct in general.
>>48461824/vg/fgog/ ready
>>48464061???
>>48464065Lots and lots of money
>Debuted in July SOON
>>48463260literally everyone hates vshojo don't even pretend otherwise
>>48463563Kaoru probably could as well. I don't remember him leaving on bad terms, just bad situation.
Vshojo isn't a corpo by the way.
>>48464061based?
okay but how do we save Lui?
>>48464104
>>48463229dude triangle that general barely exists just accept that you have a new oshi
>>48463932I wouldnt dare say most, but a decent part of holo seems happyish. Cover has its problems, but decent merch, 3d lives and concerts sorta make up for it.
>>48463479four of the other girls just had a collab and kept making graduation jokes, if anything they'll just be dramafagging themselves on what heinous shit Yuri did to get scorned so hard
>>48464187Not for long, anyway.
>>48464065She wants fans that will treat them like queen no matter what they do. Doesnt matter if you dont like the content or the collabs watch and give money or if not your a slaver. Will never happen at a large scale~
>>48464206There it is!
>>48464065money, just like every other asian woman, it's literally all they care about
>>48464061AIEEEEEEE NO KSONPUT THE POWERPOINT DOWN
this is great news, hope Coco and Rushia leave too after contract is up.
>>48464069they can survive solely on ironlung and melody's CB money
>>48464069If Kson and by extension Nezuna and Ironmouse leave Vshojo then Vshojo is unironically fucking dead.It won't even take both of them just Ironmouse IMO. Who the fuck watches anyone else there
Who ready for Vshojo's members to jump ship to Mythic
>>48459186what is even up with this month
>>48464196impregnation sex
>>48464061Okay unironically, if Kekson is this bipolar, how much of a miracle is it that she lasted as long as she did in Hololive?
>>48462653lol sneed
>>48464175Less than a fucking yearshe is crying every day for messing up her daily donos of thousands on hololive
Now, all of relevance that is left in Vshojo is Ironmouse and Kson. Is it unironically over for them?
>>48464206Bravo Yagoo
>>48459186>girls don't collab>no management >no support>no concerts> girls arent friendsso what was the point of this shitshow? literally only reason they grouped up was to somehow rival Hololive at the time which seems silly since they do none of the above
>>48464196Impregnation via airborne sperm
>>48464257Melody
>>48464069The only one I can imagine is actually stuck is Nazuna since she was created by Vshojo.
As someone who knew her personally many years ago this doesnt surprise me one bit.
Where my fandeads @?
>>48464061>Not even pretending it's a joke nowlmao
>>48459186why a sticky? she isnt even a vtuber shes a fleshtuber
Vshojo is just going to be Mouse, autistic caribou and Hime (who doesn't count because she streams less than Gura)
>>48463534>I'm playing doubles advocate>gets singleswhat did he mean by this?
>>48464061I can respect that position.
>>48459186Bear with me because I don't really care and barely know shit about vshojo other than what catalogfags force down my throat (so nothing), but also don't hold any ill will towards them: what the fuck happened? It sounded like they were on an upswing in the second half of last year
>>48464275Cover helped her out
>>48459186Ironmouse, 2027 (Colorized)
>>48462526based daughter of the Greater Italy
>>48459477Did the Nux debacle not tip you off?
>>48462526well, they're technically rightthey just fucking left lol
>>48464215only two were making graduation jokes. the other ones were closer to Yuri. Pippa almost started crying yesterday when chat asked her about Yuri's graduation video.
>>48464284>Kson>relevant
>>48463667If mel eventually leaves then I am inclined to believe v2 is true.
>>48464275Because she had someone telling her what not to do Anon
>>48463156I want the idiot rushia back, kekson is even more of a liability now than her
>>48463226It's a far cry from the $100k+ a month she was making.
>>48464175Damn, if not for the contract, she might have beaten Sana.
>>48464196Pink Elira good?
>>484638263 hours of her calling Ironmouse a fake whore who stole her thunder
>>48464361She was fired bro... it's over.
>>48464327when are they going to ungraduate my boy sam?
Did Froot donate those 55 thousand dollars to mermaids or no?
>>48464343Relevant enough to make a good portion of /vt/ seethe
>>48463886Silver has been creeping up on Nyan with her slight decline and Silver's consistent incline from the HL drama. Vei would definitely be above Mouse.
get fucked mowtendoo!!! you fag!!!!
>>48464327>2027her kayfabe would be broken
>>48464319Wizard game happened, talent freedom apparently meant no one will protect you from troom harassment and contract changes
>>48462588I came in here to have a small chuckle about pink catBut what the FUCK is this
>>48464061I mean, she isnt wrong; i've found professionally it is 100 times easier to get a pay rise by switching company than asking my current one for it
>>48464061Oh no no no no no...it's so fucking over holy shit this is just hilarious because of how quickly it's imploding. HOW DID THEY FUCK UP THIS MUCH THIS FAST?
>>48464399What do you think anon?
>>48464065Money. She only left hololive because she thought she could get the same amount of superchats without having to give hololive a cut. She thought this because she is a woman, of course.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't let the talents own their own models. It makes it too easy for them to stab you in the back.
>>48464293back to a nobody on chaturbate getting her pelvis rearranged by a janky fuck machine that is probably going to explode on stream some time.
>>48464295she already have a fully rigged avatar for youtube, she don't need the Nazuna one.
Holy shit dude what’s happening? VShoujo is bleeding out
>>48464196Impregnation by a high earning, compassionate white foreign man (me).
>>48464343It sucks to admit, but her content got pretty stale after leaving Hololive and I don't know why. I don't hate her by any means but she's just not as interesting to watch
>>48459186So pink cat leaves, and everything explodes?
>>48464343didn't she get the highest vtuber stream of all time?
>>48460867The only ones posting there would be ones that just want any reason to shitpost, nobody gives a fuck about Kson, she has done nothing to gain reputation on that name and is slowly falling into 3 views
>>48464275She lasted like a year in Hololive. She didnt even last that long lol
>>48463534>Doubles advocateCan't tell if memeing or retarded. Well played anon
Hey, kids, it's time to use the F-word!Fuck (fuck, fuck, fuck) jannies, fuck seasFuck cucks, fuck malesFuck 4chan, but mostly fuck NyannersFuck Goshlings, Holobronies, and friendsFuck following threadsFuck this song, can't wait 'til it endsFuck NyannersBut fuck Vshojo the mostFuck NyannersBut fuck Vshojo the mostWith a big rusty poleOr a splintery postYeah, fuck Vshojo the mostFuck you(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ9YVF-wyho))
Is everyone leaving because of the Hogwarts shitshow or what?
>>48464399Nope and her mother did damage control when asked.https://twitter.com/MotherOfLiches/status/1651299419696791568Froot hasn't tweeted about Nyanners yet by the way. We all know what the outcome will be when she does though. Because vshojo will never fire Froot.
>>48464377way better than Elira
>>48461577I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.
>>48464450That's where she used to be?
>>48461824/vrt/ reporting in
>>48464472and now she flounders at 2k
>>48463205>concerned about this thread hoarding attention>posts Sara
What the fuck even is the point of this "company"?They don't do anything together, They pretty much just a glorified Xbox Live clan .
>>48464390Right after they ungraduate Snake.
>>48464496coming up on their contract renewals, read them, and told them to suck their dick and stop stealing their money
>>48464508HAG LOVE!
>>48464061Is this implying she's going to try and find another corpo to join? Literally why bother at this point?
>>48459186Q1 financial review goes bad for all of these vtuber companies, huh?
>>48464319Some of them played Hogwarts Legacy (silvervale) and got harassed by troons, while some of them supported the troons. Silver then said Ironmouse wasn't her friend. Personal rifts aside, it could be that money was also involved. But at any rate, it was time to stop playing house.
>>48464399GUNRUN WHERE IS THE $11 MILLION????!! FROOT WHERE IS THE $55K???
>>48462772I'm guessing it all boils down to sponsorships and merchandise. VShojo would handle the set ups and negotiations, but take a majority of the revenue. If you're a smaller streamer, this deal makes sense, but not when you're averaging 5-10k+ viewers like many of the girls were. Some of the deals offered to big time Twitch streamers with similar viewership numbers are in the 7-figure range.It doesn't make sense for the girls to give VShojo the majority of a 7-figure deal when you're as big as Veibae, Silvervale, and Nyanners are, where you can attract sponsors and merch deals on your own. They can hire a management company, pay them a flat fee to handle negotiations, and keep most of the money. Like Vei said, it's mostly about money.
>>48463690>SHE'S STILL GOING
I really hope this makes nyanners even less relevant than before
>>48464061Oh no she was serious
>>48459630Same.
>>48460253I bet they needed to give more money so ironmouse can buy her 30th model
>>48463343Vshojo board, pls understand
>>48464449>is why you don't let the talents own their own modelsYou're right; but Vshoujos whole business model was hiring established chubbas who had no reason to join a corpo unless the deal was massively in their favour. They wanted to skip building up talent and are now paying the price
>>48464472No Coco did, they are not the same
>>48464399You know damn well she did not.
>>48464061Company loyalty is retarded for both the viewers and the streamer
Fucking lol
>>48464061IT'S FUCKING HAPPENINGNO CONS BTW
Why is there some vitriolic hatred towards vshojo? Like who unironically actually cares about the companies
Da fuqSilver being pissed/jealous and leaving and Vei wanting more money and leaving to join Soda I get. But Nyanners leaving is something that I don't understand at all, what the F was Vshojo offering them? Or not offering them?
>>48464537Hagbros always winning
>>48464410Are you implying she'll be dead by then or what?
>>48461382eating
What the actual fuck did Gun Run do that the girls are running off one after another???
>>48464065she did want freedom, after the chinese pissed themselves, management was very restricted on her to prevent another unintended yab. turn out Vshojo is the same, Kson should return to indie.
>>48464558The fall of Saigon, and the end of VshojoKOJIMAAAAAA
>>48461824/vg/hig/ reporting in
>>48459186HAHAHAHA BYE BYE WHORE
>>48464410not kayfabe! just new advances in medical technology to keep her alive for 50 years
>>48464061>comfy company destructionHow long before someone leaks the real juicy stuff?
HUGE WYOU MIGHT ALSO LIKEREDMORI CALLIOPETHE GRIM REAPER IS A LIVE-STREAMERMORI CALLIOPELIVE AGAINMORI CALLIOPE[DROP]破滅はここです DEATH (ていく でぃす!!)YOUR LIFE HINGES ON DEATH です (すごい)破滅はここです DEATH (ていく でぃす!!)YOU'LL CRINGE UPON YOUR DEATH ですHANDS UP, HANDS UPALL HOPE-HAVERS, NOW CADAVERS (ほら[?見な / 皆])DEAD BEATS STAY DANCING IN OUR LAVISH CAVERNS (めっちゃ天国だ)GUH, YAH, SO-WHAT-OUR DECKS ARE FULL OF JOKERS無法地帯 ハンパないWE DO お気の召すまま
>>48464674Vshojo itself is nothing as a company but the girls who joined it are all rodents/grifters/whores so it's basically a criminal record for a Vtuber
>>48464606BUT SHE NEEDS THE BIG BUDGET TO KEEP WINNING THE VTUBER OF THE YEAR AWARD!! ITS A BIG PLUS FOR ALL OF VSHOJO!!!
>>48464449No, no, no, the incentive to stay at the corpo if the talent keeps all their money, owns their IP, and doesn't do any special events is...... The power of friendship?
Don’t you love watching empires toppled
>>48463696>implying it's somehow wrong to call yourself an indie while not under contract with any company
notice how it's the whores leaving the company.coincidence?
>>48464674I hate all these grifting whores, a shame Haruka and the literal camhoe Melody are stuck with them
So what did VShojo do with 11 million in venture capital shekels?Because it sure seems like the executives kept it and fucked everyone else over.
>>48464675Nyanners got into Like a Dragon: Ishin.She saw the writing on the wall and thought "I'm big enough now to not give a fuck" and is running for it. Pomf
>>48464364Its still 16k USD a month, with likely more freedom than Holo allowed.
>>48464674something something pink cat, kson, whorish behavior, twitch
>>48463690>>48464061I mean, what she's saying isn't wrong.It's the real world, that's all real jobs work.But this just seems like a dogshit time to take this stance, and she's the worst person to make it
>Lose Holo stragglers and indie lovers when you join Vshojo the literal anniversary of Coco's death>Lose Vshojo worshipers when you jump ship and join some random otherIs she confusing "losing weight" and "losing viewers"?
>>48459186Honestly Froot should graduate and vshojo out.
>>48459680Y-YELLOW WOMAN! I KNEEL
Christ, am I glad to just be a Holofag. This shit is exhausting to follow.
Wouldn't put it past HoloEN to try and hire some of these vshojo exits, whether it's a good idea or not. Maybe we can Gura to stream with Nyanners.
I'd like to remind all the smug Jap corpo fucks in here that all this proves is that your oshis are cucks. They stand to lose their entire audience if they ever leave due to the corp owning their persona and their audience being loyal to the company, not the talents, so Cover and Niji have much more leeway to fuck over their employees without risking them jumping ship. Only indies are actually based.
>>48464769they're all whores
>>48464515WHY HAVEN'T THEY HAD SEX ON STREAM YET!?!?!?
>>48464769>>>>>>Froot and Melody are still there
>>48464275Coco only lasted 1.5 years which is a very short amount of time. Even Rushia, ultra-menhera Queen, lasted 2.5 years. Coco's content was better when she had people to bounce off of and a corporation to reign her in. Ironically, her "talent freedom" is what is hurting her.While in Hololive, her edgy content contrasted with the rest of the corporation and made it quirky and fun. But she wasn't allowed to overdo it. Now that she's indie/vshojo, she's just another ethot doing the same ethot content. Every day. And she really needs other people to play off of. That's why that one chick is always in her irl streams.
>>48459186wow colored me surprised thought she'd leech off of them a but longer
so when will kson leave vshojo?
It's just about money??
LITERALLY NYAN/11
TALENT SO FREE THEM MOFFUGGAS LEFT LEMAO
>>48461415Yagoo literally said if she ever wanted to, he would have her back immediately and frankly the man's not an evil shithead to lie about that. He's a weirdo. He might even be gay. But a liar the man is not.
>>48460838who is that
>>48460401HOMOCHADDOMINATION
>>48464773Hey, those vtuber streamer award nominations cost a lot.
>>48464674The less of an influence Twitch whores have over the vtuber sphere, the better.
>>48464741>>48464772But hololive is just whorish so who fucking cares?
>>48464769There's only one person who has been in vshojo that's not a whore.
>>48464769False. Froot and Melody are still in the company.
>>48463690>https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652823117222539265>>48464575yeah well, her senpais in hololive would have never allowed to speak like that about the company.This is why hololive is and remains the top
>>48464206and they still havent gotten out en 3 and are still winning while niji is actively trying to kill every clipping channel, vshojo got taken down by froot, and twitch is twitch.
>>48464390uh... bro?do you genuinely not know?https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-shares-very-early-look-at-splinter-cell-remakehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1_ZCSf_HYim just hoping it's going to be good and we get spies vs mercs
>>48464813Nyanners won't give up her ava and Holo won't take her in with the pomf and moon man stuff out there. Gura certainly would keep clear from that alone.
>>48464773b-b-based
>>48464764She calls herself an indie WHILE under contract, dipshit. She'll do the same thing with the next one
>>48463025The curse is real
>>48461801Epic Reddit Bacon GAR Mecha Bros, Defend The Based Kson From Chinks!
>>48464821cute gosegu
>>48464859kson... stop......This is just getting sad....
>>48464859>
>>48464061Slugma....
>>48464859She dialed it down LMAO
>>48464675$11 million raised by investors and what did they get out of it? Those $11 million should have been theres, they were able to raise that money because of them lmao AND where did it go?
>>48464674They are Whores, Cunts, Backstabbers, Clout chasers, Fake, Cancel culture loverswhats not to hate?
>>48464835>Now that she's indie/vshojo, she's just another ethot doing the same ethot content. Every day. And she really needs other people to play off of.Precisely; my thought is that if you say fuck through a whole movie, it stops being funny. But a well times fuck in a PG-13 film is contrast and comedic timing.
>>48461690>kson is just a coward running away from the results of her own actionsZhang, there was no "actions" besides showing fucking youtube analytics. You will never gaslight people about what she did no matter how much you piss, shit and cum while crying. Let it go, you pathetic sack of shit.
>>48460129OHHHHH FUUUUUUCKTHE DIVEGRASS WINNERS CURSE
>>48464859it always was
>>48464496People are believing so due to speculation because the timing is a coincidence but it could also be because their contract renewals is giving them less benefits and freedom which is also plausible. Whatever is really happening, we won't know fir sure. Me, on the other hand, I believe it's a women moment.
>>48464859Pathethic
So, how long until vshojo officially dies?
Holy fucking shit is over
>>48464859This is Rushia levels of putting her foot in her mouthJust stop
>>48464757>Vshojo>EmpireShitty peasant village
>>48464821I don't wanna watch a gaggle of "lebased" chuubas though, I wanna watch chuubas that make actually good content, and it just so happens that having a boot to your face more often tends to produce that than not
>>48464859Shameless
>>48459186vShojo brownies, you aiight?
>>48464859Vtubing has always been about the money and nothing else. No one joins a corpo vtubing thing to make friends. It's to make connections and money. In fact, that's what streaming in general is all about: money. Money to escape the 9-5 grind.
>>48461577That's a bullshit excuse. You could find a manufacturer in Vietnam for just a little bit more money.
>>48464859
>>48461801please don't use ryoma to defend kekson. he's better than that.
>>48461824/hlg/, reporting in.
>/tsunX/ wins VTL3>Tsunderia dies>/vsj+/ wins VTL4>VShojo dies (eventually)Which non-holo corpo will win VTL5 and die soon afterwards?
>>48464558>Did you rike it?Le creatividad strikes again. How does he do it bros?
>>48463690KSon to Idol, when?
>>48464859>GIVE ME MONEY $1M A MONTH LOLholy fuck this is actually pathetic, your job is SITTING IN A CHAIR AND TALKING/VIDYA
>>48464840No wonder she said vtubing is dead. It's all about the money now. Take me back to 2017 please.
>>48459186Doesn't this mean that Froot is the only drama magnet left? Kson and Nazuna would arguably count, but they've been pretty boring in their current iterations, aside from some retarded takes from Kson. Maybe I'm just looking for a silver lining, but this might be a good thing in the long run.
>>48464859Is she allowed to say those things? Maybe that's what "talent freedom" meant
>>48461824/eien/ reporting in
>>48464793>It's the real world, that's all real jobs work.So then change it. The more people leave their jobs for better conditions, the more employers will have to compete with each other to treat employees better.Or you can keep things in the same dogshit state by doing nothing and staying loyal to these companies.
>>48464859I mean, why wouldn't it be? A business only exists to make money.
>>48459186 REPLY S TO THIS POST TO SPIT ON NYANNERS, VSHOJOFAGS, KEKSON AND VTWITCHERS. S
>>48464991When Mouse is six feet under.
>>48464859What an cunt thing to say considering how unhappy the only other person in VShojoJP is.
>>48464859KSON is missing that Coco money. I wonder if she blew her million from Hololive superchats already?
>>48464859Holy fuck what is actually going on with her right now?
>>48464991when froot and mousey leaves give or take
>>48464859your still under contract retard, LMAO
>>48464959So women?
>>48462011So, checkmark means the talent agree on new contract?
>>48465016Imagine Kson following up on this tweet and leaving rushia alone in vshoujo
>>48464859CRINGETHIS WOMAN
bros?????????????????????
>>48464991Unless they hire new talents they will eventually die. We already seen one recent hire bail in less than a year so good luck to them finding independents that is willing to sell their soul.
>>48464709>Decided not to renew her contractAltered the deal
>>48464859Shes gonna overdose on copeThis is literally damage control because she knows her contract is fucking dogshit like the other girls had
>>48464859grim
>>48464499No one has been fired retard, all of the other whores left by their own volition.
>>48464061With this kind of mercenary philosophy I don't know how anyone could claim that she isn't bothered by her numbers falling off.
>>48464499Imagine LITERALLY having your MOM defend you on social media, uppermost kek.
>>48464859How fucking horrible is her lifestyle? How the fuck can you make so much money as Coco even for a short period and then go on as Kson and STILL need to post shit like this. Like holy fuck the first thing I would do is buy a house, she's even able to live in Japan where rural housing is cheap so you can just lean into the homesteading.
holochads stay winningkekson btfo
yo what the fuck how
>>48464859>MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEYI hate women.
>>48464674they are all terrible people who have influenced the western vtubing scene for the worse
>>48465020I strongly disagree.
UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>48464706she should be, but she wont be. She aint healthy but she isnt as sick as she says
>>48461824/pcg/ here! Loving every second of it!
>>48464859It was always about the money.
THREAD THEME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGMlQPMi4T0
>>48464859Does she know what a contract is?Is hers retarded enough to allow her to openly court offers like this? I can't believe it would be.
>>48464859Kson stop... you just got your dream role... you can't be saying stuff like this SEGA is gonna take notice
>>48465025>No one joins a corpo vtubing thing to make friendsAnon... Stop watching indies...
>>48464280formerly chuck's
>"sir a third vtuber has hit the tower"
>>48464859I agree actually.
kson kills any org she joinsavoid like a plague
>EN3 announced.>It's Silver, Vei and Nyanners
>>48461824/alter/ says hello.
They were probably operating at a loss this entire time which gave all the talent really good deals, in hopes in the future they can gain some hold on the market. It's what tech companies do to milk investors.
>>48459186HOLOLIVE INVICTA
>>48459186Rest in piss vshojo
>>48464821Coco's audience was EN. Her JP audience was dwarfed by EN. Get BTFO.
>>48462539>>48462542THEY corrupted her and made her get a Twitch. THEY let troons infiltrate her fanbase. THEY made were a part of the worst collab stream.
w
>>48463775Who actually gives a fuck about Phase and Eien
>>48464859KEK
>>48462186Snuffy deserves better than that.
>>48465032BASED BASED BASED
Feels kind of weird being in another vshojo sticky that doesn't have a bunch of deleted posts. How else I am supposed to know which ones to read if they don't have a big red sticker of approval on them?
>>48464859wtf kinda tweet is this, its like a teenager backpedalling
>>48464859Amazing
>>48459186Bro no fucking way, it really is vshitshow, the company does nothing for them, why would they want to stay.
>>48465077Women without the control of rules
>>48464951kek
>>48461824/uuu/ in position
>>48464859So this is the Jesus of Vtubers......... wow what a fall from grace
Nyanners more and more IRL appearances with Aethel had me suspecting that the vtuber boom was ending and now this.Nyanners has been if nothing else always very in tune with where the internet trends are going. She's been a memelord for more than a decade.Vtubing is dying.
>>48460973LilyPichu
>>48465048What are they gonna do, sink the ship faster by "firing" her? If anything, it seems that when Kson joined VSJP she played her hand well. She doesn't need to leave because she probably negotiated a better contract than these other girls.
>>48464790That freedom is what is killing her channel. And with these "freedom" tweets, she may kill her career lmao
>>48464859This is why we hate women
>>48465148Lol no
>>48465150You can disagree all you want retard. It's tried and true. It works
>>48464859the kevin nash of vtubers
>>48465041>>48464859>Gets all that money while actual like hard working Youtubers who like make good well edited and well made videos on vidya or whatever else don't get shit.This what wrong with whores.
>>48461181>>48461671MODS PLEASE
>>48465189Pikamee & Uto
>>48462977God, just fucking imagine>EN3 finally debuts>One of the members opens their mouth for the first time>everyone is on the edge of their seat waiting to hear their voice>GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS
>>48464859whores fuck for money, not for love
>>48464859Remind me again the reason why she graduated? Wasn't it something something creative difference? So why graduate at all? If it is business she should've just stick to it. She should've just bent the knee and suck winnies dick. After all, Holo makes money. And if it is all business to her, then she should've just stay.
>>48464879nyanners' model she used for 3-4 streams
>>48465187this. She's the Hand of Midas in reverse
>>48461824/VshojoHaters/ reporting in, currently masturbating whilst reading this thread
>>48464859>some people cried when she left HololiveGood thing I never liked her
>>48465270>vtubing is dying because the sjw whore cat left vshojo
>>48461824/MANS/, REPORTING IN!
>>48465041Still more than what the shark does
>>48461824/ggg/ reporting in
>>48465270Maybe in the westHoloJP keeps growing every day
can't wait to see everyone again in a few days when the JP whores jump ship
>>48465051Don't expect change under a shitty economy. This is why people in Hollywood that are going on strikes are fucking morons. If vtbvers suddenly quit then they are going to screw themselves over because they have no safety net.
This isn't the end, it's the beginning of the great purge.Trust the plan.
Here's my rrat:>Venture capital banks collapse in the US losing deposits>All Vshojo talents suddenly start fleeing and Kson is rambling about needing more moneyI think they unironically were withholding or managing talent funds in a bank and they lost their money. And if this is true the true corpo colors are showing and they're being told to cope or leave.
>>48465270Nice cope, but Hololive is doing great and is getting more and more opportunities for their talents
>>48465301lol yes.
>>48465255kek
>>48464859Direct reply
>>48462977There is no reason for even a 2k CCV streamer to join Hololive, You're just losing money
>>48464859Imagine being this much of a one dimensional vapid whore. Not surprised tho
Rest in piss
Spitting on Vshojo's grave one sec
>>48464674Whores aside, many of their talents are genuinely shit people.
>>48465421sanctimonious bitch
>>48464859This woman is full on cope
>>48465338yeah cause the dumb whore didnt think twitch would ban her for it basically being ecchi
>>48465405Hololive is not the entirety of streaming. Not even close.
>>48465128>Modern woman>HomesteadingStill probably ordering takeout, buying high end cosmetics, not sure what happened to that $10,000 bed. Women never let their living standards get lower, they'll rather whore themselves out to support it first.
>>48465329She probably just wanted to be indie, but then this company came and advertised itself as being a amazing place where you can do whatever the hell you want.
>>48460973I'm not a fan of her but i still find it funny how she cucked her entire fandom.
It all comes crumbling down, crumbling down...
>>48465041Do you not know what "hyperbole" is, or are you simply unable to recognize it in context?
>>48465421What does that even mean? I don't understand what is she trying to say in relation to her previous tweet?
>>48465421>I dont care about anything>EXCEPT MONEY GIVE ME MONEY
>>48461824/vst/ here
>>48465270>Nyanners has been if nothing else always very in tune with where the internet trends are going.Pink cat hate but... you're very right. She was one of the first to jump on the vtuber bandwagon before it really exploded. She pulled the "my viewers are pedo" card before the overzealous PC culture ignited and avoided being canceled. She's intelligent enough to keep her brand strong and make good choices.>Vtubing is dying.It's not dying, the bubble is just ending. COVID is over, recession is kicking in, big names have established themselves. It's like early days of streaming and early days of JP vtubing, the established stick around and grow while the new kids struggle to get scraps.
>>48465421Did she start drinking lean or something?WHY DOES SHE KEEP GOING
>>48465421She's the perfect example why talents shouldn't be able to keep up everything
>>48464991Final nail in the coffin will be Zen leaving later next week.
>>48459186I piss on the grave of this dogshit company
>>48464859huge cope
>>48465439
>>48465421Why the fuck is this dumb bitch even doing this?
>>48461824/nina-shon/ reporting in
>>48465392just two more weeks
>>48462302In all legit honesty what the fuck was VShojo because you're right
>>48465421Sure, let's see what Nazuna thinks about it
>>48465428so true sis. the holoEN girls are all destitute.
>>48465492shes a whore in the truest sense of the word
>HOLOLIVE IS STILL GOING STRONGWhen's the last time they introduced a new gen?
>>48465329She thought she would keep the same audience and just keep a larger % of the money. Reality is she lost a lot of her paypigs and average viewers so even if she did get a better %cut it was way less than now.Also we know now that top holos literally make $$$ millions in merch sales, imagine the huge profit she got form SC and Merch sales leading up to her graduation. Holy.........
KSON WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>>48465421Yeah nothing she is saying is wrong. But I guess it's shocking for people to hear someone be so open about it. But this is how the real world does in fact work. At the end of the day, if you get a better offer, you take the better offer. It's business.But I doubt Kson is getting better offers than Vshojo these days. Will be interesting to see what terms she gets offered when her contract is up
>>48465329She thought she could’ve made it as an indie. Her failed attempts at merch and drop in income (even without agency cuts) taught her a lesson
>>48465263It seem she became the antichrist of Vtubering
>>48465394That's a fact. not a rrat. Anyone that has basic economic skills can put 2+2 together. The bailing is not a coincidence nor is kson tweeting about wanting more money.
>>48465492She's just like me.
>>48465236
This is good news.She doesn't have to sink with the fossil platform forever.With gaming companies no longer interested in Twitch, it's time to give up trying to portray success on Twitch.
>>48465404How? Because they aren’t japs?
>>48464417HL gotta be the GOAT game not even because it's particularly good, but all the shit surrounding it. Pikamee was a terrible loss, but otherwise the backlash against all the harassment troons did had been a gift that keeps on giving for well over a month now
>>48465421This is fucking hilarious. I'd think it ironic if I didn't know better, one of the most pathetic salvaging attempts I've ever seen
>>484648591M contracts exist for vtubers?
>>48460973because she shilled herself on fucking /a/ and those threads were pure cancer
>>48464859Is that a reference for the fact that Nyanners, Silver and Vei got a $1M contract from another Corpo and they are soon to join Hololive while shes left to rot in a ghost agency?
>>48465329Pride always comes before the fall
>>48462640What a fucking disaster
>>48460973I hated her attention whoring ass when she used to post on /v/ and /a/. And later when she became a tumblr retard
>giving me 1M$ per monthWhat is she smoking?
>>48465338God I think everyone despised this whoremodel trend. How can something be so disgustingly pandering while also being ugly as sin? Im so glad that """"""meta"""""" died quickly, if leaning on being a generic twitch thot can even be considered a meta.
>>48465074Mouse should leave next and go full angry Latina rant on Froot after doing so.
>>48465421Can a native English speaker explain what she said? I genuinely don't understand.
>>48465035Personally I will be throwing my full support behind /pcg/ to win the next league
Willing to bet Kson burns her money on useless shit and her bank balance is in the red despite earning a buttload.
>>48462772>We keep your modelMaybe?
>Nyanner ruins females voices in anime dubs because her meme videos before she was a vtuber got popular doing stupid loli voice copying Japanese and imo companies started copying it cuz her and others (vs old stuff use to have women sound normal) >Tries to ruin Vtubing>Gets BTFO THAT'S WHAT YOU GET WHORE!!
>>48465688She's damage controlling her own tweets idiota.
>>48461824/lig/ here keep vshojo out of our general pls
>>48460988>>48459186>Nyanners gets doxxed and harassed by a bunch of hot shot kids>nux being an egomaniac faggot thinks he can use the situation for his own gain and looking like a good guy>nux/shojo fallout>vshojo didn't do shit to defend pink cat during that time.>wizard game happens>silvervale harassed>froot backstabs work associate>vshojo doesn't do shit to defend or help silvervale>Silvervale leaves>veibei leaves>pink cat leavesYeah it's no wonder they left vshitshow
>>48465563Vtubing is not a real job and it will never be, just stop trying to associate workplace dynamics to vtubing
>>48465255Kek
>>48465688She meant Yen but she's retarded.
>>48464859imagine being this entitled lmaodo women really
>>48465261pink cat is my oshi but I'm more sad that Fauna cancelled her stream today
>>48465636No, because they are backstabbers, cheaters, grifters, whores, and scammers who never had any respect for vtubing or their fans
>>48465563It's not shocking to hear. It's her being hypocritical with her behavior.>I LOVE VSHOJO THERE'S NO CONS>WE'RE LIKE A FAMILY>AVENGERS OF VTUBING>SO AMAZING>Mh? More money? Yeah fuck vshojo give me more cash
>>48459186it's pretty safe to say Vshojo is over don't be surprised if you see more of the girls leaving in the next few days
>>48463156The british Ikea shark lover has talked about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZ504vbC2s
>>48465649It's an exaggeration for the purpose of illustrating a point. Have you never said something along the lines of "I really love {{some_food}}, I could eat a ton of it and never get tired!" except you don't mean a literal ton? You meant a large quantity, above average, maybe even an unhealthy quantity, but not a literal ton.
>>48465688kson, just stop...
holobros discovers that vtuber is a business.did they really believe that their oshis are in it just for the experience?it's a fucking job
>>48464773Bribing irrelevant awards "committees"
>>48465421Why is she weaponizing fans in her business negotiations? It has nothing to do with us, we arent those pesky parasocials or anything
>>48465555Is she getting that much less? Isn't she still one of the top indie superchat leaders?
>>48465688it's backpedaling, her manager probably told her that shitting on vshojo is a bad look especially right now and to tweet something else to make it seem like you were joking and everything is okayI can't believe she wants to trap herself in yet another contract wtf is she doing
Game over vWhorjoHOLOCHADS CAN'T LOSE
>>48464773Went into buying streamer award nominations and advertising their talent freedom
>/vt/ still has to use vshojo’s stadium Fucking lol
>>48465649Pekora, Miko and Marine could easily be worth as much with the numbers they pull
>>48461824/lcg is here
>>48465329>Creative differences which could also be code for "They blacklisted us from the entire company because of chinks", because they did literally do that and Cover is fucking retarded for doing so don't get me wrong.>Instead of dealing with it regardless of how bad it is like Fubuki, Pekora assuming it wasn't just the chink shit, and basically fucking everyone else, leave.>Want to stay an indie>Then Vshojo comes in with good promises and money and "freedom">Go to Vshojo
>>48461824/mep/ here
There was a time I’d eagerly invite Nyanners to join Hololive for Gen 3, but she chose the boyfriend path instead.
What is Miguel Gato going to do now?
>>48465421>I don't care about anything if talents themselves are happy with their fansthen what the fuck was that rants against Unicorns that she did? isn't Kanata happy with her fans? is Kson unhinged or something?
>>48459186This is on the level of Pekora leaving Hololive.What the fuck.
>>48465515The stuff Zen has been mentioning on stream can be seen in a whole other light now. Seemed to be really considering a lot of stuff and how her community would react. And she probably has one of the most loyal core fanbase I've seen in the western vtubing arena.
>there's ''people'' in this thread that unironically believe the wizard game has anything to do with thisim thinking some of you arent particularly smart
>>48465550they mean JP
>>48465715I think she realized she said something retarded but instead of backpedaling she's just pivoting to platitudes of kumbaya
>>48465563You're not supposed to say the quiet part loud, you're suppose to invest the money into your equipment, games, fun gimmicks, travel to meet other vtubers in person, etc. If you ask for a $1M contract for sitting on your ass, it reeks of desperation like an uneducated wagie complaining he's not making 6 figures for doing grunt work while spending $500 a month on Funkos and McDonald's.
>>4846467490% of them are grifters. No one likes grifters. This isn't rocket science.
I'm just happy she she convinced Haachama to not graduate and to stay in Hololive.
no one will notice this TimeRyS porn
>>48464769The only one that's not a whore is the troon, stop kidding yourself
>>48464859Cover is really smart treating their talents like the bumbling retards they are and keeping what they are allowed to do and say strict.
>>48464859I love how Jewson made it so when she inevitably quits vshitshow it will be really obvious she did it for that dollar-dollar and not because of any principles she publicly claimed to stand for
>>48461824/warkop/ here!
>>48465982When's the last time HololiveJP had a new gen?
>>48463502She's /out/ too. Soon enough, anyway.https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse/video/1807659187?t=27m03s
>>48465270>Vtubing is dying.Maybe for her lol.
>>48461348>own Internet company>could host literally anywhere>base self out of San FranThat money is gone anon. bad financial decisions all around
>>48465649If Ironmouse was an indie, she could have probably parlayed last year's numbers into a massive multi million contract with either twitch or youtube like the big fleshtubers do.
>>48465833As if that’s any different from a jap. Fucking hell you delusional weeb
>>48466004>TimeRySI noticed, Anon. Thank you.
>>48461824/ggg/ ready for the fall of Vwhorejo
>>48465958The same thing she's done since joining.Have menhera episodes and tweet about vague lawsuits.And maybe stream once every few months.
>>48465867This doesn’t make sense since Hololive girls have been very open about it being a corpo, Vshojo was the one always saying “hehe we’re just a group of friends, we’re not a corpo!!”
>>48465846>the only thing that matters is having funso that was a fucking lie...more like the only thing that matters is having money kek
>>48465458>Anon: hololive is doing great> (You): hololive is not the entirety of streamingCope-chama....
>>48465051Good advice, that loyalty doesn't mean shit to the company. When they want to get rid of you they will do so without remorse. Just don't leave until you have something better lined up.
>>48466042December 2021
>>48465715it's what you call doubling back, she realized her first tweet and the second one make her sound malicious and greedy >first tweet: if your contract is better than vshojo's give me a call>second tweet: what's the big deal? you'd jump ship from vshojo if you got a better deal tooand so this is her way of trying to turn it around >third tweet: what I mean by all of this is if the other talents are happy and their fans are happy then so am I
>>48465525Vshojo was just a way to finance radical groups, what a surprise, no one saw this coming.
>>48465800Still better than Hololive
gee i wonder what will be ironmouse's next move
>>48466004
>>48466001Bro I miss chammers…
>>48465979Truth is boring, rrats are nonsensical and fun and allow me to push narratives
>>48464772QRD on haruka?
>>48465421>People do the same thing in social life.Sociopathic take
>>48465688my god, you can just feel the absolute seethe through the screen, like shes clenching her teeth writing this. hilarious.
>>48461824Towa general, what the fuck is going on i just came home from a fucking night shift its too early for this shit
>>48466004anon...
>>48465979Says the person spending thousands on hormone treatments that don't work.
>>48464859>talking about your paygrade openly while others are leavingLooking forward to hearing kson's eventual termination
>>48465715she's essentially telling all corpo vtubers to jump ship/migrate if they don't get better offers when renewing a contract. Basically the same thing in pro sports
>>48464859She's actually not wrong but she should also stop talking.
>>48465421Example A of why not every content creator should have total freedom. Hate the pink bunny all you want, Pippa is right about companies and restraining their talent. KSON is on track to becoming a lolcow.
>>48465967Vshojo disbanding completely (bar IM) wouldn't make as much of a dent on vtubing as Pekora leaving
>>48465991>grifters Do you even know what that word means
>>48466060Stay mad cuckhold, you coping won't stop me from pissing on this whore companies grave
Safe to say that VShojo is nothing but a sinking ship at this point. There's no recovering now.
>>48464674Even if you're a coomer you can't really sidewind things like froot being a scammer and a cheater, nyanners ditching her old fans to appease the tumblr(RIP) and twitter crowd, mousey potentially playing a long con and things regarding management such as "auditions" that lead to nothing.If you're otaku you'd hate their associating with trash taste, who are IRL vloggers and fake weebs letting more normalfags and retards into your hobbies.
>>48461824Luknights represent
>>48465525>The US government runs ops in the countries where it gives humanitarian aid>this is supposed to be somehow either surprising or relevantTake your meds and go back to >>>/pol/.
>>48465074>>48465715Mouse mentioned she's still in contract negotiations this morning. Zen asked her chat like last week if they'd still watch her if she wasn't with VShojo.Whoever wrote up those contracts shit the bed. Though honestly, if VShojo still takes all the money from merch sales then it's just a parasitic relationship for those that stream less and get less sponsorship deals.. It makes sense why the three that left did.
>>48466001damn yeah. Hope shes doing alright btw
>>48464859There are only 2 things that matter in the vtubing business. The money and the miles
KSon shits the bed yet again
>>48465270Good, it's way over saturated.
>>48466046Holy shit it's 100% over. You don't say this shit if the negotiations are going well.
>>48466149... from a sociopathic person, yes
>>48466149>Women be like everyone wants dramaWe just wanna chill.
Damn no wonder Melody canceled her CB stream for today earlier
>>48464898All vtubing corps are incompetentCover just somehow happens to be one of the least incompetent despite all the mistakes over the past year
>>48466119How
>>48466177Yes. thats why I call them that
>>48465949>There was a time I’d eagerly invite Nyanners to join Hololive for Gen 3They got the superior version of her the first time.
I can not describe how fucking happy I am right now as one of, if not the biggest haters of VShojo.Words cannot describe my endless amounts of joy.God I would seethe so hard whenever I saw positive news about these whores. Finally something negative, its what these sluts deserve.I feel like im gonna cry tears of joy,
>>48466046>are you pregnant?>don't worry, it's physically impossible for meLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
put me in the /vt/ bottom-feeder youtube video
>>48465916no the divegrass team will have a new stadium in autumn babby, except if vsj+, or whatever's left of it wins another league
>>48462640>>48464061>>48464859>>48465421She's not wrong, but this reeks of massive cope. This is painful to read as someone who genuinely respects her.At this point she should just cut her losses and abandon ship.Go indie again, join another group, or make one herself. It doesn't matter as long as she gets a grip.
>mfw this drama
>streamer quits agency of their own free will and will keep streaming on their own>people who hate them declare this as a winSome of you are so retarded it's truly baffling.
>>48459186summary of what kson said because im a fucking zoomer who has no attention span
>>48459186now vei and her just need to get cancer and I'll be real happy
>>48465724Seethe more
>>48465979It definitely played a part in Silvervale's case. Probably not for the others
>>48466149People absolutely dramatize shit in their social life, women especially but even plenty of guys are like that.
>>48466004They hated him because he spoke the truth.
>>48465563Of course you should be open to better contracts, but you should have the tact to not publicize it. Also, trying to treat vtubing industry like a sports industry instead of actual contracting companies will only harm vtubing overall. KSON is being retarded.
>>48466295slit your throat frognigger
>>48466268She apparently barely survived the first one, so the doctors probably tied her tubes.
>>48466268how big is her dick?
>>48466296Freedom to be a whore
>>48465979ya best start believing in culture wars anon
>>48465421>people do the same thing in social lifeis this a minstranslation? or is she suggesting she's a cunt IRL?
>>48464196You can't save those that no longer have eggs anon...
>hides beyond vshojo while copyright striking 4chan videos>says she feels awful about her past>leaves vshojothe master class hypocrite
>>48466124Hopefully death
>>48466179I don’t fucking care about a damn company going under. This board isn’t a /biz/ general. Then again it probably is considering half don’t know how businesses function
>>48464859>>48465421Yes this is the real world. But when your talents themselves say "we're like family/there's no con here and there" then this just feels disingenuous.I love you Kson but this(and your tweet after Pikamee's last stream) leaves a bad aftertaste.
>>48466119Hololive let their talent play wizard game
>>48465688Have you heard of the "appealing to extremes" fallacy?
>>48466295I hate nyanners but I hate vshojo more, so I'm happy either way.
>>48461824/xtsunx/ reporting, vshojo should become /xvsjx/
How will this affect the divegrass?
Did Kson really spit on her time in Hololive?
>>48466149I caught that too. >Talks about transactional nature of money/wages>Applies this to friendship, making relationships transactionalI'm starting to think she was the more menhera one than kanata, holy fuck.
>>48465458But nyanner is apparently
>>48465949>There was a time I’d eagerly invite Nyanners to join Hololive for Gen 3Average HoloENfag
>>48466402>copyright striking 4chan videoswhat?
>Vshojo will die in your lifetime
>>48466402cute
>>48461824/swarm/ checking in <3
>>48466277She would ruin her rep and her safety net if she decided to go indie again or join another agency right now. she will need a good excuse to do that.
>>48466268LOOOOOOOOOOLno fucking way
>gets her own nendroid through Vshojo connections>pays the favor back by leaving Vshojolmao that's hilarious
>>48464821but does it really matter? they're able to make millions because they're in the company and they are happy
Proof that all western vtubers are shit all corpos are shit and all vhshishow are the shitest of all. Ironwhore has been lying about her sickness for years. The writing has always been on the wall. Clearly the other cunts got jealous the lying bitch is raking in the simp donations from them so they're leaving. Hopefully now the retards will be able to see reason and understand logic with all of the clear evidence.
>>48466001She's dead anon...
>>48464488Sell out, with vshojo, oh yeaSell out, with vshojo tonightThe whore company gonna give me lots of money andEverything's gonna be alright!
Draw! I activate Polymerization to fuse my Elemental HERO Avian and my Elemental HERO Burstinatrix from my hand to form Elemental HERO Flame Wingman. I lay down a face down and end my turn.
So in the end...Nux won?
>>48466296vtubers and idols should act like nuns
>>48465525>three days to take Kyivi am in agreement my fellow American friend, the supporting of Nazi ukranians by corporate America needs to cease so the Russian special military operation can conclude. It is a shame Joe is in the President House, under Premier Trump the special military operation would be over alreadyt. John from Florida Oblast
>>48465979YWNBAW
>>484658131 million yen is like $8,000. That's really not very much money. I think it's more that she just had a woman moment.
>>48466295>frog
>>48459186As long as the mouse stays, Vshojo can rebuild.
>>48466451This is a thread specifically about Nyanners, so the discussion is going to be about Nyanners.Do you understand how this works, or do I need to break it down further?
>>48459186I GOT SPURS THAT JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE
>>48466268
>>48465563I agree it isn't wrong, but you gotta admit it's really slimy to do such a public 180 after she spent time shilling the corp to others.
>>48465025>no one joins a corpo vtubing thing to make friendscanan....
Nyanners is reading this thread right now.Say something nice about her.
>>48465525JESAS
After ironmouse leaves, it'll be all over, right?
>it's only 9:30 AM in JapanNazuna is gonna wake up to some shit going down I feel so sorry for her
>>48466515yep and he still did nothing wrong.
>>48466551All I know is your saying dumb shit that makes no sense
>>48465508>The wigger was tasked by Yagoo to finish kson off by sabotaging her with leanAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>48463156>Is there possibility for cover to rehired back Kson?No because kson would never want to come back even if they ask her to.
>>48466424When's Bae's stream of it? She's a pretty big Harry Potter fan.
welphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o
I'm really curious to know how bad their new contract was
>>48461824/nasfaq/ here and still waiting for the game to be alive again
>>48466566hey nyanners hope you get curb stomped to death so I can piss on your grave
>>48462640Actual snake behavior lmao
>>48466615what the mikenyan doin?
>>48466420Yeah, I like her too and ever since going indie and then to Vshojo she's said a lot of things that leave a bad taste in my mouth. Like maybe true and realistic but there seems to be a lot of passive aggressive or just asshole behavior mixed in there. You can think asshole thoughts but it's weird to just project them constantly. Hope this is just a phase...
So Kson just turn everything she is in to shit
>>48463593Its definitely a factor but not the entire jigsaw puzzle.
>>48466277She's a talentless worthless entitled whore. Do you respect the shit that comes out of your mouth too? I cannot fathom how anyone could be as blind and stupid as simps like you ignoring all of the obvious facts.
>>48466589Okay, so you're an illiterate retard.You could have said that at the beginning and saved time.
>>48465688>they're treating me good but they could be treating me BETTERWhy did she stop being an indie exactly?
Just woke up. AYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>>48466566I'm sure her asshole is nice and tight
>>48466424Not an achievement for the JP girls, tell me which ENs play it
>>48466046wow how bad is the contract if every single person is refusing to renew
>>48466566Nyanners convert to cristianism and be saved
>>48466610As soon as the public forgets it exists and the drummed up bullshit "controversy" evaporates.
what if Yagoo buys Vshojo?
>>48466566WHERE IS THE SKEBPINK WHORE WHERE IS THE SKEEEEEEEEEEB
>>48466124She will eat the remaining streamers.
>>48462086>implying Hololive was some black company.what did she say? I don't follow traitors
>>48466720>d-doesn't count!
>>48459186>
This is my motto: Do not easily trust those who use the word "freedom" so easily. Because when they become the majority, they will now start using the word "morality."
>>48466566you know better
Maybe the new contracts are trying to take ownership of their characters
>>48466566WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>48466762why would he buy it? there's nothing left to get out of it. once mouse leaves there's nothing of value left to buy
>>48466762Still a better investment than debuting another Stars generation.
>>48466566You're boring and your Veibae voice-lite sucks and you're literally nothing without VShojo as will be apparent in the coming months.
>>48459186Drama llama bros we eating good tonight.
>>48466762>Buys Vshojo>Kicks out everyone>Gets rid of the name>keeps money.
>>48466268Timestamp?
Can't wait for the J-man to start ranting about how he personally destroyed vshojo on other boards.
>>48466720EN sidebranches doesn't count
>>48466393She's saying of your friends don't make you happy, find new friends; Preferably ones that will give a million dollars a month for doing a micky mouse pornhub edition impression
TOP FUCKING KEK
>>48466267Drop dead, Holonigger. Total Corpo Death.
>>48462588>>48462640I didn't expect to find this here when I opened the thread. But I'm glad I did.
>>48466548That manipulative cunt is the reason it's collapsing. Her only sickness if obesity from her fat lazy ass never getting a job and the other thots are just jealous they didn't think of the pretending to be sick idea first so they left.Literally everything we know shows how much of a faggot they all are.
>>48459186Based, fuck nyanners. Now we remove fruit and that faggot Zentranny (probably next that faggot was going menhera since forever just like Silver) we can turn this whorehouse into a legit good corpo.
>>48466046I'd be surprised if she isn't out as well. Whatever Vshojo was offering or ready to accept has now led to 3 members not renewing their contracts. I find it unlikely that they'd offer even Mouse a better deal. Also Zen seemed to really be on the fence about it.
>>48466515Nux is also a two timing weasel>vshitshow shit>later makes thumbnails with bait and other shit including cropped gura porn>makes a blanket face "loli bad" tweet for clout>people point out his YT thumbnails>He has a meltdown and starts retroactively trying to change thumbnails and pretend it never happened>people archived some old thumbnails of his retardation>nux gives a meek attempt to backpedal on his cloutchasing tweetvshitshow and nux were really meant for eachother
Mouse is going to be the only one left at this rate.
>>48466795Wow, how deep. My motto is fuck bitches, get money
>>48466773She meant skub, of which she was a hater of.
>>48462175Would be a hilarious but predictable twist.
I hope Froot is the only one remaining so everyone can laugh at her for staying
>>48466667I don't like her tweet but this is definitely on VShojo's terms.Their business model is shit.I hope other small corpos who considers this "freedom of talent" reconsider their contracts.
jesus fucking christ kson what are you doing
>>48465688This is not about talent freedom anymore, I don't understand what are the pros of letting your employees under contract say stupid shit like this.
>>48466711she has a cute ass
>>48466815so he can put all of the whores in EN in a side-side branch where they belong
>>48466566PINK CAT LOVE
Will she still get to use Gunrun's streamer backpack after she quits?
>>48466512Nice move Jay! Draw! I activate Polymerization to fuse my Gyroid and Steamroid into Steam Gyroid, I play twice face downs and end my turn.
>>48466795such a profound message, thank you sir, I shall remember this
Seems like management fucked up the new contracts so horrendously, all the girls banded together and decided to implode the company in one day. The working class is rising up
>>48466566Kill yourself in this instant
>>48466925Why not go completely indie at this point?
>>48465525IM SCHIZOING OUT
>all the whores with boyfriends leftGood fucking riddance
>>48464859>>48465421This bitch needs to stop popping pills
>>48466884>Nux pulls a Nyannerswtf I hate Nux now?
>>48466884After he gave up anime, Nux tried too hard to do the trolling/meme shit and learned, while he is funny at times, he isn't good at trolling/memeing in general.
>>48466515nyan unironically did the right thing by calling the drama whore out, collateral was worth it
Zhangs were right about Kson
>>48466046What the FUCK was in that contract?
>>48464859>>48465421I mean she's not WRONG, but... seriously? This is what you're tweeting right now?
>>48466795That sounds like politician speak with extra steps.
>>48466998Silver was single.
>>48466925how does she say this shit and not get fired? Was she like this as Coco too?
>>48464859She made good money in Hololive and she left for creative freedom. Now she has creative freedom and wants more money. What the fuck is her problem? It's ok to want money or freedom but make up your mind for god's sake.
>>48466990Views and money
>>4846684300:27:45
>>48466924"talent freedom" may not be the best thing but at least other companies should let the vtubers keep their models if they want
>>48466977>>48466998hmmm
>>48466906>Anti-skubwtf I love pink cat now
>>48467032did she say that?
>>48466756It's been going on for as long as development has gone on for the game. And they're planning more games. Idk about this one haachama
>>48466886Melody brought all of them into this. She's going to be the last one standing along with Haruka and Froot.
>>48465025Dude there is NO money to be had in 2023 vtubing. Look around you, 99.999% of these retards will literally never make back the 5 figures they spent on art and hardware. If you want money go get a job in medicine finance tech or law.
>>48464175How has her career been as Nazuna anyhow
>>48461181I would kneel so hard the earth is going to shatter
>>48467036she joked a lot about cover being a black company, but never straight out saying she'd leave for a better deal.
>>48466990
Please point me to the laugh anchor
wonder how nazuna feels getting dragged onto a sinking ship. hope she at least got a free model out of it
>>48467032Sliver a whore and I'm not talking about the one from Sonic (he's ok I guess)
>>48467032>WasVShojo was never about vtubing, it's a dating agency for vtubers
Will Zentreya get a sticky when she leaves next week?
>>48467054I think it depends on how the talent leaves. If the talent breaks contract in a slimy way, like doxxing genmates or stealing money, they should lose everything. If they leave on good terms, why not?
Thank god, this shit company can finally die along with ironlung
Is there no vtuber who doesn't do it just for the money anymore?
>>48466762>Buy VShojoJP>Slowly dissolve it and transfer kson and nazuna under a two member branch>Never address it>we go back to pre-mid 2021 erabig if true!
>>48466046So who is left holding the bag? Melody is going to be fucked like never before.
>>48464485lurk moar
>>48466567Unironically one of the few who did
>>48466990She already calls herself that lol
>>48464293Christ, sucks for her, she seemed so genuinely happy about VShojo.
>>48466925
>>48467150always has been
>>48467100>black companywhat does that even mean
>>48467017Nyanners shat on Rushia?
>le pink cat left vshojo>somehow the retards in here think it's kson's faultlmao the seaniggers and chinks are still hilarious I see.
>>48462588>>48462640>>48466925This feels disingenuous.Kson, I beg of you stop posting.
>>48466998coincidence? I think NOT!
>>48467145Ironmouse will outlast your favorite company. She's been vtubing since the beginning.
>>48467110>freeShe owns the rights for it, so I assume she paid
>>48461824A /vg/ tourist hereThis is some good shit but it feels as if we're on the tip of the iceberg.
>>48466402You just KNOW she has cute feet
Oh boy, here's my chance to post in a sticky!Sayonara, Pink Shat~
this realistically will not affect her negatively and means nothingnow for vshojo it's the start of the end if they don't get their shit together.
>>48467150
>>48464859So if someone pays her she'll work for them?She's a literal whore. Greedy cunt.
>>48467086Sad but true. The gate to break into big audience and money has passed. You'll do better doing vtuber-adjacent content than vtubing itself.
>>48467150watch 2-3view indies anon. They have the soul. Mostly because they're doing it as a hobby.
>>48467086>Dude we're at peak vtubing I promise dude the wells and money are drying up we got to move on to sustainable fleshtubing
>>48467036>>48465282
>>48467086Nah, depression and mental illness aren't going away any time soon. That's where the money in vtubing is at.
>>48466998Silver is chronically single
hey guys, Lets form a group were we can support each other. sounds fun right :)great!one year laterHey guys so I'm going to need you guys to participate more in my charity streams and support ME with MY issues if you even want me to THINK about inviting you to company events. Also a portion of your earnings will go to "charity" so i can get free blood thanks :)
>>48466884He really is just like Vshojo, he abonded the Nime Rant Cafe Podcast for that shitt podcast with MutaharHe threw away old friends for new friends with more internet clout, the same way Ironmouse didIf only they knew how similar they are to each other Nux would have fit in nicely in Vshojo. I think the only thing that got in the way of that is that Nux isnt as woke as they would like.
>>48466961Draw! Just the card I needed. I activate my Skyscraper. Now when my Flame Wingman attacks your Steam Gyroid it gains 1000 attack points. Flame Wingman attack Steam Gyroid!
>>48467236shit baitt. HoloGOD
>>48466515Always has been.
>>48466998>all the whores with boyfriends leftAs opposed to?
>>48467236>Money Mori
>>48467198she's always ONLY cared about the money, sorry for the reality check anon
>>48467150JP IndiesNo I'm serioustry out lol you're not getting her channel I'm keeping her a comfy 2view she's really nice.
>>48464821>conveniently forgets about Michael Cat
>>48467183its a joke she made 2 years ago, dont think about it>>48467198is le vt actually taking this more seriously than kson? what is happening
>>48467246They never stay a 2-3view tho.They either quit or blow up with simps and paypigs.
>>48464973>>48466735COVID boom is over and the company probably had to scale back what they're offering. It's not like they've got other markets to pull revenue from like hololive does.
>Vei>Silvervale>NyannersIs Vshojo transitioning to becoming a slutfree company? If Froot leaves, we’ll know the answer to this question.
Fun Fact about Taylor (Nyanners)For any of you old hat faggots who have been around for a few decades, you might remember "Duke". He was a popular voice actor who did a lot of very funny voice lines for /b/ and /v/ back in the day.Taylor also gained her popularity back then, and single handedly ruined a really cool radio station that /x/ had because of a fight between her and Duke.tl;dr fuck Nyanners
>>48467150You're paying attention to an agency debacle. If you want vtubers that loves vtubing out of love and fun, look up some indies.
>>48459186I can not fucking wait until mike cat drops the nuke on this dogshit company
>>48466046yeah this company is dead if she goes, just close it down
>>48466145She's the autistic deer girl, she doesn't deserve to be bag holding Vshitjo's poorly managed "company"
>>48467036Cover is not Vshojo and Vshojo would lose all their social credit if they fired her.
NON-VSHOJOFAG STATUS?CALLING ALL NON-WESTERN VTUBER CHADS
>>48467150What kind of retarded logic is this? If they're motivated by the money AND you're entertained by the product, what's the problem? Dumb commie.
Phase Connect needs to strike hard and fast ASAP and present themselves as the best possible alternative to fill the hole Vshojo is leaving in the EN market. This is the best opportunity they will ever have for massive incline.
>>48464859If she were male you guys would be saying he's based gigachad sigma grindset. just saying
>>48467299Based retard living in 2020>>48467284>baitProof I'm wrong or?
>>48467236Only the old ones. Kronii and Mori are in that company after all
>>48467270Silver genuinely feels like someone that can't hold down a relationship for more than a month before self sabotaging it into dust
>>48465421I now fully support the CCP
>>48464675Silver left because Ironsnake is a lying bitch. Veibei left because she wants to be a babymaker for her boyfriend.Nyanners left because she hates all of the other whores because cunt recognizes cunt.Kson will leave because she's a greedy corpo sellout. Mouse will leave because she's cancelled for after the faggots pull their heads out of their ass and wipe the shit from their eyes and see that she's lying about everything.
>>48467334You people will never convince me to hate Nyan. Pink Cat Funny and that's all I care about.
>>48467321>is le vt actually taking this more seriously than kson? what is happeningWhy not? She's tweeting something on EN then another thing on JP.
>>48467387If she were male I would hope he would never stream again.
It's not about what she says, it's the fact she's actually saying it. Professionalism out the window. She won't apologize, us holobronies know that first hand. Can this KSon bitch get any worse?
>>48467372Money ruined youtubeMoney ruined the internet in generalYou're too young to remember the content people made for free just because it was something they loved doing.
>>48467424>nazuna>
time and time again has been proven that pandering to chuds is the best business decision an online grifter can make. Chuds have proven themselves to be loyal with their favourites. They won't drop someone immediately just because she said something that they see disagreeable. On the other hand, twitter trannies and women do have higher purchasing power since the private-public superstructure of Washington DC gives them more mammons and bureaucratic onnections with the elite class. For the casual viewer, you might think that its rational to pander to these people at face value, but these people are mercenaries. They're only loyal to the people who give them clout and status, ergo the rainbow coalition movement. They will drop you immediately once you've shown any semblance of wrongthink. You must submit to these creatures or face ostracization.Vshojo has taken the latter. Look what happened
>>48467150No streamers at all do it without the money. If you don't monetize your streams or content, you get bumped out of the algorithm entirely.And eventually, streaming into the void starts to kill any motivation you once had.
I mean, I'd leave Vshojo too if some company offered me $1M a month. I don't understand why you fucking retards are so mad at this when any one of you would do the same.
>>48462588>>48462640if kson is laughing about it, does that mean its fine to laugh at it? there should be more to this, im so fucking confused as to why she is having this attitude towards vshojo.
>>48467299Mori has already prepared for her exit with a rather profitable side gig.
>>48464859WHAT IS SHE FUCKING DOING
>>48467391all of EN not doing shit and collecting paypig cash on the side
>>48467387yeah dude vt is full of tatertotsshut up retard
>3 vshojos left>niji still being niji>3/5s of holoEN's most succesful gen are starting to bet money on their "side" gigsEN vtubing is tearing itself apart
>>48467299>mori>not the lazy shark who doesnt stream or invest her money into projectsreminder to renew your membership tomorrow chumkeks
>>48467367Can't stop winning
>>48464859BASED and worker pilledFuck loyalty. You'll be thrown under the bus as soon as your company deems it necesary. This is the right mindset
>>48467469cucked mindset
Finally
>>48467424>Mikeneko takes over the company
>>48459186>people unironically thought being horny was a maintainable gimmick
>>48467498Good
>>48467254How many vtubers debut each month? How many make back their design and rigging investment? There's still enough demand for riggers to be commissioned out but I don't see that many new vtubers making decent money.
>>48467470So everything is rigged to become a soulless cashcow?
>>48467312You too anon? I found my quiet JP streamer that is always happy to see me.
>>48467457What, like Fred? Like early screaming PewDiePie? Take your nostalgia glasses off. You were also more easily entertained because you were a child.
>>48467478Why was both posts removed it didn't break any rules?
>>48464859So she's implying everyone who is currently leaving managed to net a god tier contract right? That's what this means?
>>48467574Always was.
>>48467498EN vtubing was a fad, nothing more. anime will never be mainstream in the west and therefore never bring in the big sponsorship bucks like it can in asia
>>48467537theyre still gonna be horny as indies
>>48464859She's correct, though. What's wrong with this?
>>48467387Dumb comparison. It's 10x harder for homos to make it so I doubt they'd do dumb shit. They're not forgiven like women are. Next meeme
>>48466046No way too much clout, the blacklash would literally end Vshojo, Ironlung is Twitch darling vtuber, every community on Twitch would come together to cancel Vshojo for not taking care of their favorite make-a-wish Vtuber.If anything all these "talents" leaving might be because they are saving all the money for just Ironlung. Wouldn't surprised if it's literally just her standing after all the contract negotiations are done, all the money goes to just her.
>ISREALTALENTFREEDOM
>>48459186This is fucken insane. Wonder if mouse will be next?
>>48467387What's she saying isn't wrong or bad retard.It's just retarded to say when 3/11 are fucking off, Ironmouse is still in negotiations and it doesn't sound like she'll stay either, and you're known for leaving companies and are making retarded hints to leaving this one too (before back pedaling).And if Kson leaves too then Nezuna definetly will as well. That's 6/11 people in the company leaving.
>>48462746this is a point worth making, twitterfreaks might think twice about their harrasment campaigns if agencies threatened to sic trained lawyers on the ringleadershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRGDkxa6CSw
>>48462588DO IT FISHMAN SAVE KSON AND MIKECAT
>>48467367Should've chosen better pink women, kek
>>48467498>3/5s of holoEN's most succesful gen are starting to bet money on their "side" gigsWhat's the drama on that one?
>>48463156i dont think it would happen, but if it does its gonna be most KINOshit that has happened in the entire vtubing history. everything will fucking melt. vt and jp will explode. it will be the most confusing week of our lives.
>>48467603Old posts get removed on stickies when you pass 1000 posts
>>48467574>Google+That was a fun trainwreck
>>48467595>>48467609t. has never experience the internet pre-2009
>>48467424>Nyanners left because she hates all of the other whores because cunt recognizes cunt.Women.
>>48467038learn how to speak english before shitposting, chink.
>>48467603it's a sticky you retard
>>48467312this is even easier if you're esl and you look for ones that speak your native langtheres quite a handful of 2 and 3view deutsch tubers that are comfy
>>48466449>she was the more menhera one than kanataAlways has been.
>>48467283Not so fast! I activate my face down Emergeroid Call, negating your skyscraper!
>>48467144Dog at LEAST put the caption. It was funny.
>>48464859Kson I'm trying to be on your side here that's probably not the best thing to say right now.....
so where's sana
It's nice how no-one even gives a shit about Nyanners and >we only care about what this means for everyone else but her
So since this was only announced way after Vei and Silver were out, that means there's also potential for even more dropping right? Who else might change their mind after hearing about all the others?
>>48463156>>48462977>Coco's graduation implied she would return to Hololive after some yearsYAGOO I KNEEL, IT WAS ALL SCRIPTED
>>48467150go to youtube, search"hololive before:2020"happiness.
>>48467476It’s not a matter or whether it is, or isn’t true, anon. One’d expect an adult to be able to figure out that you shouldn’t say whatever you think
>>48467334Nyanners is a cunt, but duke was straight fucking schizo anon
>>48467595>pewdiepie>fredThere was an internet before you were born, Zoomer, and it was actually fun and enjoyable.
>>48465405>Hololive is doing great and is getting more and more opportunities for their talentsHololive is in a unique position compared to a lot of these other corpos. They're a tech company developing proprietary software, a vtuber agency, and a music publisher. That's a pretty diverse set of interests that will keep them above the crowd as the market shrinks.
>TALENT FREEDOMTALENT FREEDOM>TALENT FREEDOMTALENT FREEDOM>TALENT FREEDOMTALENT FREEDOMTHE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THIS COMPANY
>>48467727she has a nice and well payed job outside of streaming
>>48464859my god...
>>48467490>all of EN not doing shitThey're literally doing shit all the time though. They just made a cover last night, council collab this week, council offcollab planned, Myth collab planned soon, they're literally all working on shit
>>48461824/ppg/#2 standing by
>>48467150Half of hololive does it for fame, I don't know if that is better tho.
>>48465508She's acting like a crackhead. Is she always like this?
>>48467692Nyan should have never met Conner before mouse.
>>48467721>that's probably not the best thing to say right now.....No, it is the best time to say it because the english side of Vshojo might be fucking up things already.
>>48467710Plot twist. Kanata was the tard wrangler
>>48467768why did they advertise EN streamers in japan?
Talent freedom means becoming a mercenary that'll work for the highest bidder? Am I getting that right? Is the goal to change Vtubing into a sport with players changing teams for money?
>>48467381TURN UP THE COFFEE OUTPUT TO 200%
>muh corpo better than your corpoWho cares watch whoever the fuck you want
>>48467150Legit indies, small ones.
Why is this pinned
>>48467731mouse has a 'big decision' to make soon. and presumably contract disputes are the real reason the subathon kept getting pushed back and the move has been so stressful.once she's gone the company is going to fold within a year
>>48467749>One’d expect an adult to be able to figure out that you shouldn’t say whatever you thinkGo back to your corpo doormat vtubers, retard.
>>48467847>watching vflopshitjo
So who'll be the first to leave from the jp side, Kson or Nazuna?
>>48467678>>48467759Like what? Random shit on Break dot com? Again, nostalgia.
>>48467824TRUST THE PLAN
>>48467236>Posts Cover when it has Mori, Ayame, and Kronii in it
>>484677401000 years sure passed by quickly...
>>48467498kson couldve just rode on hololive's popularity, if only she held on a bit longer. right now holos have their own events and side gigs. marine is having the time of her life.
>>48467728It doesn't mean anything for her because nothing is stopping her from continuing to be a vtuber. But the implications of her leaving, especially after they JUST lost two other members, is interesting.
>>48467150>1 to low 3 view vtuber indiesYes they exist.
>>48467381PC already hit their peak, it's all downhill from here
>>48467883Nazuna is leaving within the next 24 hours
>>48467740GIGANTIC IF TRUE
>>48467334Duke was cool
>>48467270Is she ugly or just batshit?
>>48467847>yeed's feed & seedMeme magic strikes again
>>48467889Based retard who doesn't even watch Holo
>>48467727Playing chinese gacha games when she's not drawing for chinese gacha games.
>>48467885Dumb zoomer
>>48467822You're an idiot if you're not accepting a huge sum amount of money. You're literally larping to be a "I'm le pure human that doesn't need le money". Stop being so cringe with your fake morals.
>>48467387>gigachad sigma grindsetFrom what braindead faggot zoomer shithole general are you from or you just came straight up from discord?
>>48467876To hopefully prevent every thread on the board being about this.
>>48467910Gen 3 and new invaders incoming
Since so many faggots are blind deaf dumb and in denial I'll just lay out all of the irrefutable facts.> Silver is a lazy worthless jealous cunt> Veibei is a bitchy talentless whore> Nyan is a dumbass dick sucking diseased moron> Kson is a moneygrubbing selfish bitch> Ironmouse is a lying conniving cunt> They're all unfunny sluts and further proof that all en vtubing is shitIf you can't face the facts and evidence than try looking for your eyes in your mother's gaping pussy since clearly you left them in there when you were born 4 years ago, since their is literally no argument against these facts and literally everyone with an IQ over 2 knows all of the evidence pointing to this./thread
>>48467586yeah. she's really determined to have good chat interaction so she reads nearly all messages, and the <40 of us in chat keep it at a good speed. Is also good japanese reps, though it does help to be an english native speaker in JP chat to counter the occasional rando who waltzes into stream and tries to get her to say bad shit. Poor girl has ZERO mods.>>48467706Based
>>48467768>paying for corpo freedom when they can just have it for free as an indiekind of makes sense they wouldn't renew if this is the only selling point of vshojo
>>48467367Vtubing is healing.
>>48467740WWE moment
>>48467717No my Flame Wingman. I summon Winged Kuriboh in defense position and end my turn.
>>48467824It was a jab at Hololive with no real business/marketing purpose. This was running alongside Kson and Nazuna debut.
>>48466566PIN CAT COME HOMECOME BACK TO 4CHAN
>>48467889>>48467394If if this narrative were true that's like 4 people out of 70
>>48463156Anon, she's asking for $1,000,000 a month and shit talking her new company which she shit talked Cover to get into. Yagoo wasn't dumb enough to give into her demands the first time which is why she left. Now she flew too close to the sun with fake Vshojo ideals. It's all coming down quick for her. Unironically needs to naked dogeza to get back in and get a grip on reality.
>>48464859china won. i kneel zhangs
>>48467768Every screen in the subway? wtf
>>48459186Actually most worried about Haruka considering she just joined at the end of last yearHopefully they didn't fuck her with a contract she didn't read
>>48467977>t.Froot
>>48467236Before Gen4 yeah... Those girls grinded their way to the top, the others rode the path the former took to success. Actually, maybe even ID gen1 too
>>48466449>it was Kanata all along that kept her from going wild>they live on different apartments nowIt all makes sense now.
>Wizard Game happens>nuclear fallout for vtubers graduating/banned/leaving>ironmouse says "my body is shitting itself"31:20 (https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse/video/1807659187?t=27m03s))Ironmouse is likely going to actually die within 5 years.
>>48467910I saw their gen 2 barely hitting over 100 a few months ago and now they're over 200, they're inclining fine.
>>48465329It was the chinks and always has been the chinks. The "creative freedom" is her long-standing thing that was a convenient excuse. She was under a lot of pressure, Cover was retarded about dealing with the chink blowout like modding malicious accounts and on her channel and not giving her actual moderation at all. If she actually believed in what she's tweeting now she'd stay, after all the pay is good right? Live and learn.
>>48467824I wouldn't doubt if kson suggested it lol
>>48466566lesbianism is just a phase and you proved it
>>48467955B-but the Vshojo family... the best friends ever... it just feeels so soulless.
>>48467299Retard
>>48463118??? Reaction images are banned now?
>>48466795the Left in the Bush era:>freedomthe Right in the Bush era:>moralsthe Left in Current Year:>moralsthe Right in Current Year:>freedomYep, it's always a grift. Always has been. Politics are cancer.
>>48468026$11 million in seed money went to good use advertising EN vtubers to japanese salarymen
>>48463156If Yagoo was smart he would not rehire her.
>>48467878In that clip though, she denies it and says she's still in negotiations with vshojo because someone in chat asked her if she was leaving.
Holy shit that's a lot of deleted messages
>>48467381>fill the holewhat hole? how? by being whorish?we have lumi and maybe shiina if she yabs for that, rest are good as they are.
>>48459186Who?
>>48467977Yes, they all are nothing but trash. It makes one wonder who vtuber fags love them so much.
>>48467949>animators should work for hundreds of hours FOR FREE to entertain a bunch of kids for like 2 minutes and never think about the moneyThis is why hobby animation online is dead.
>>48467968New talents do not automatically put a company on an incline
>>48467882Yes. I also watch Botan what if it
Maaan, I wonder when Kson is going to have that space flight Gunrun promised.
>>48467740>Yagoo sent Coco and "ticking time bomb" menhera Rushia to destroy the competitionHOLY SHIT
>>48467381While she's gotten much better, pink rabbit is still a big filter for Phase Connect and gaining a wider audience.
>>48467327>They either quitWhat, do you expect them to still be doing it when they're 80? Everything ends Anon, this isnt a downside
>>48467768>Hime of all peopleThat bitch streams unironically once every 6 months
>>48468108Old posts get deleted after the thread hits 1000+ posts.
>>48467977checked
>>48467992>no real business/marketing purposeProbably hoped to poach some Holo / Niji members. Turned out, however, that nips aren’t that dumb (and are used to follow rules, too)
>>48468108First time at /vt/?
>>48467889>AyameShe's a gen 2 member, she helped make hololive into what it is today. Absolute fucking retard these girls literally made the company so freeloaders could show up later on
>>48468042>finally get into the agency with all your friends in it>they start dipping
>>48467977> "facts and logic"> spews nothing but rratsI had no idea Ben Sharpio watched vtubers.
Underage faggot makes a duplicate thread>>48464681>>48463963
>>48467955Money is the name of the game. But history has shown that people who are fucking this open about it usually sacrifice future market value for putting off their viewers with the money talk.
>>48468092The Left has no morals.
>>48464859>ALL these retarded posts thinking she is talking about the $1M seriouslyNo wonder you are all 4chuds and jobless incels, lmao. Google what hyperbole means.
>>48468126other vtubers love vshojo because it's just them but successful. which means indies could also be scornful whores we just don't know for sure yet.
Funny how it's always shameless whores, I wonder if there's any correlation
>>48467798eyyyy
>>48467367They get what they fucking deserve
This doesn't warrant a pin lmao
>>48467955Except there is no huge sum of money offer. There is no offer for Kson at all at the moment. She's just fishing out for something.
>>48467664They've started to test the waters with what they used to do before hololive. And some of them have gotten REALLY good receptions and are making money from it.
>>48468227I see no rrats in that post
>>48459186/∞/ here
>>48467740>Coco comes back for EN3
>>48468168SASUGA YAGOO SAMA
>>48468199Don't nips also hate foreign companies?
>>48467955>You're literally larping to be a "I'm le pure human that doesn't need le money"That was kson 1 week ago though
>>48467922True, wonder what he's up to nowadays
>>48467381That avatar IP situation forever damaged your reputation same as the unicorn boogeyman and black company machine to Cover and Anycolor, you're forever the black company who stole a girl's identity now
>>48468042lmao you know she has someone frantically going through that contract looking for holes nowshe fucked up big time
>>48468182Why would she? She makes enough off of her real channel. I'm pretty sure she became a vtuber and joined vshojo to fulfill some weird kink between her and her husband.
>>48465041Bro she's making fun of Nyanners
>>48467167The signs are all there. We're bringing early 2020 back.
>>48468262It's for containment purposes
>>48464859HOLY BASEDis everyone else on here a fucking commie or something? Wtf is wrong with chasing money? It's fucking based
>>48468108Taking newfag-chan's virginity
Can't believe a whole corpo is falling just because of a game, if you told me this was possible last year I would have laughed and here we are.
oh nonononononononono
>>48467458Which is why vShojo is it for her, unless she can scrape together an actual career in VA. At this point she's radioactive for other corpos.
>>48468095I fucking can't get over this. They raised around as much if not more than Cover did before their IPO and they still couldn't get their shit together. All of the money literally went to Gunrun's cuck porn collection.
>>48468224>>48468042>Snuffy wanted in to get in with others>they passed her for Haruka>Haruka starts streaming less and less after getting inHow bad is it over there that your streaming schedule starts wavering?>3 talents leave
>>48466990Because being in Vshojo has no cons.
>>48468067>open ironmouse stream>she's using a model i've never seen
>>48467750Elaborate. Duke always seemed like the most chill of all the VAs that frequented /v/ back in the day.
>>48468042>expecting a black company not to fuck her overlmaoall she can do is wait for her contract to end and not renew
>>48467387this is true as fuck but anons will cope anyway
>>48465270Hololive is literally going to be sponsored by a fucking baseball team but pop off, king
>>48467731Zen has been conflicted and talking about what her chat would do if she wasn't in Vshojo.Mouse is actively preparing her fans for something big and is still in negotiations.I think Froot and Mel will always be in and Haruka is probably locked in for a year at least.
>>48468130Hobby animation is alive, it's just a lot smaller. People still output work for free, look at Holocure. Sometimes you don't need immediate return on your work to gain large monetary rewards later. Only low IQ fags expect immediate gratification.
>>48467498Damn I love the smell of burnt corpo in the morning.
Am I dreaming lads
>>48468265>startedretard
>>48468393God WHY did they do this this is gonna be so cringeworthy in hindsight.
>>48467768To this day I still don't understand what the point of that was.Why in Nippon of all places too? You have these posters and shit up, but how are Nips supposed to even know what any of them mean?There's literally thousands of other billboards with anime girls on them. This was just so silly.
>>48468438One for every day of the month.
>>48467895>marine is having the time of her lifeIs she? What has she even been doing since treasure box?
>>48459186IT'S LITERALLY OVER FOR TALENT FREEDOM
>>48468280>EN3 is delayed because they need Vshoujo contract to end to pull of this stuntInsane twist. Bravo Vince!
>attract talent with favorable contract>accept short term losses>renegotiate for more profitable contract>everyone leaves>
>>48467150Small corpos and indies do. I found mine, hopefully you'll find yours.
>>48465246look again
>>48468357>Chasing money from a 9-5 wagie job so you can invest and buy your way out of workBased>Chasing money from sitting on your fat streamer ass providing nothing new or novel to your paypigs so you can buy a new LV luxury bagCringe
>>48467990I summon Drillroid and attack your Winged Kuriboh. Ah! no it's effect means I can't deal damage with my Steam Gyroid, I'll have to end my turn.
>>48468308Duke was a fucking schizo and is definitely in prison anon
>joins VShojo>corpo immediately implodes>could've joined Mythic instead
>>48465042She's saying its dead because her numbers are in the absolute shitterShe's getting lower views than Holostars these days
>>48468454>Japanese baseballLol. Call me when the Red Sox have Flare on their Jerseys
>>48468224You really think their friends retard
The talent freedom to leave
>>48468516I would kneel like no man has ever knelt before
>>48468042Always read your contract
>>48468265Based
>>48468556>implying Mythic won't explode in a few years
>>48468510Lmao. Do your reps. She's been involved in stuff she once could only dream of
>>48467932Beyond batshit
>>48468393>>48468503This is going to end up like that image of the pony convention with the dilapidated ball pit
>>48468472>People still output work for free, look at HolocureBruh, Kay Yu is an accomplished animator with multiple streams of income. He can do it "for free" because he's already made it.
This is just bad news for Vshojo, Nyanners will still keep doing her shit normally
>>48468357Stfu mutt
>>48468590Haruka's autistic ass probably thought they were friends.
>>48468556Mythic is going to explode even faster than Vshojo
>>48467606they're leaving because of the shit tier contract vshojo was offering
>>48465979Shut the fuck up, tranny
>>48468393what was the point of that ad anywaythey dont do auditions
>>48467150Hag supremacy
freedom to dip
>>48468537I retract my earlier statement
reminder that nyan abandoned her cats at the first sign of getting dicked down
>>48459186>vshojo always lets their talent retain their characterHololive would never.
>>48468556qrd on this girl? I never bothered watching her because I just assumed she'd be a whore by joining vshojo.
>>48468635>animators should work for hundreds of hours FOR FREE to entertain a bunch of kids for like 2 minutes and never think about the money>He can do it "for free" because he's already made it.He's still doing it for free. People make animations for free all the time. But please, continue KSON-backpedaling.
>>48468423It's so wild too cause Haruka did stream pretty consistently before VS, but they either burnt her out or overstimmed her and now she just guerillas her comfort games when she's not collabing
Vshojo looks like Walmart.Seriously, they ruined Western Vtubing.
>>48466566Hope the worst happens in your best day nyanners!
Aloe made the right decision to ignore kson's pleas to join vshojo
>>48468624>>48468658Yeah, like Asmongold's mother
Isn't it interesting how nobody rescinded the contract but waited for it to expire and not renew? This suggests the contract had some serious penalties for rescinding it.
>The Avengers of Vtubing
>>48468708Vshitjo didn't create the characters
>>48468624It won't because in the background, it's managed by Disney/Amazon.
>>48468687vshojo management have a fetish of advertising onlyfans models to children
>>48468510so as a joke marine wanted her game to be voiced by pros, it was a joke. until it wasn't. so now she's involved in making professional anime voice actors and actresses to voice her game that she made back in her youth.
the EN vtubers will move on to the next popular thing now that it's declining in the west
>>48468549>>48468643seething poorfags>"muh hard work" "muh dignity" "muh money cant buy happiness" "muh real job"keep coping for the rest of your worthless lives, fucking peasants
>>48468773Nazuna
>>48468556>mythic who?
>>48468569I wouldn't be that surprised if the MLB sponsored vtubers if there were any in a major esports tournament. They already sponsored a golfer for The Masters.
>>48467150Anon do you want an advice? Vtubers and vtuber communities are not your friends. Make actual friends and extract meaning from them. Share a passion but don't let that be the single thing defining your relationship with someone.Vtubers themselves have real friends and they are the ones in charge of making each other better, but that friend is not you.
>>48468748It suggests that it never occurred to them to leave until when it was time to update/renew it then they suddenly realized they could just dip with no consequences
>>48468740based triangle
>>48468438Rich vtubers change outfits the way a 3D woman changes shoes
>h-hey we just paid for your new nendroid, do you think we could have some few more shares in the incoming you're getting?>mmmmmnyo
>>48468556I totally forgot she recently joined vshojo
>>48465270*EN vtubing is dyingbecause it's a fad. Was a fadThe reason holoEN and NijiEN have reclined is because there's too much competition from smaller corpos taking chunks out of their viewerbase, but those small corpos will never ever be as successful (if they don't blow themselves up trying) because the vtuber audience in the West is shrinking. Eventually it will all stagnate into a sort of pseudo-heat death where no one's really inclining or reclining anymore. Except maybe holoEN because the holo brand is still really valuable and inclining in Japan, and Cover actually shares the spoils between all their branches (for the most part) so there's basically no way for them to fail short of some unforeseen catastrophe.
>>48468357shut your RETARD mouth phasenigger
good riddance, I'm glad I get to see vshojo slowly crumble to dust
>>48467802That's not even that much of a plot twist, Kanata needs serious menhera handling when she's on her own but with Coco she was the one handling her. Probably one of the reasons they stuck together so well. Kanata hugging her on stream that one time sounded like there's too much bottled up in her at the time.
>>48466566If she actually is, what a bad fucking hand brother. Least you got a couple cool people out the ordeal
>>48468357It's not wrong, so much as it's the wrong thing to say. Of course you'll leave if someone offers you a million bucks a month, but yelling that outload after 3 talents quit is kinda....
>>48468740HOLY BASED ALOE LOVE
It's going to be hilarious when VShojo is just Mouse, Melody, and Haruka by the end of the year because the former two employ the "just ignore it and pretend everything is perfectly fine" approach and the latter is too autistic to understand what's happening.
>>48459186>Venture Capital firm>Tech bear market that results in lay-offs across the entire silicon valleynot hard to math this one out boys, the money dried up
>>48459186Is VShojo ok?
>>48467150People are capable of doing things for more than one reason. No need to be so cynical.
>>48465421Didn't she say that she'd stay in Hololive if it was about the money? KSON needs to get off the internet.
>>48468783why the fuck didn't i think to leech money off of zoomers who were leeching money off of zoomers
All these announcements about how they're not "renewing (their) contract" got me thinking>Gunrun is a retard with a load of money in silicon valley bank>Loses it>Has to reevaluate how he handles the contracts>The girls see these new contracts>They're worse for them>Refuse to renewRate my rrat
>>48468747lmao
I'm ready for another doing thread let's go
>>48468280>>48468516This sounds so fucking insane I kinda want it to happen.
EN: Report.
>>48468453He's right, Duke was not exactly stable.
>>48468740DELTU STAYING AN INDIECHADI KNEEL
>>48468556>Oh miss Kiwawa ohhh>Fujisan looks so nice today doesn't it ohhhh>Say Kiwawa *takes pussy hair out of mouth*>You're friends with that Veiblade girl, right?You get what you FUCKING deserve.
>>48468907Haruka is the only one I feel bad for.
>>48468817Good luck 2view!
>>48468556Vei joined mythic while she was still signed to vshojo
>>48468687retarded western vtuber company thinks jp salaryman wants to watch vtubers that have freedom
>>48468822I doubt it. Baseball and Football are strictly American. They don’t like any outside influences
>>48468748Assuming rescinding the contract was an option in the first place. It's probably just better to wait the contract out rather than get into a legal battle over some stupid shit, since these contracts seem to be only annual contracts.
>>48468914But they literally got $11 million in venture capital investment money like a year ago, surely they can't have blown through that already? They barely even do anything compared to Cover or Anycolor.
>>48468942You don't even need the whole SVB fiasco. Companies are known to make shitty contracts if they think they can get away with it.
>>48468516my kneels would literally implode if that happened
>>48465458And? Hololive is doing well and this is a holo board.
>>48468227Shut the fuck up you faggot you being such a blind dumbass proves my point even more. I'm not going to spoonfeed you every single one of the literal millions of damning evidence that show I'm right. Use your brain and find them yourself then come back and admit what a bitch you are. Calling me Ben Sharpio is just a bullshit deflection from you to try and belittle me. Your dumbass never even tried to refute any of the facts. Not because your pigeonass brain knows they're the undeniable truth but because you don't even know how to properly argue against someone objectively correct like me. Literally die of cancer or save me the trouble by killing yourself. In your next worthless life try reading how to make an argument and give reasoning instead of the faggoty fallacies and other bullshit you use.
>>48468357There's nothing wrong with chasing money. But the prevalence of money in something always leads to moneyfags who do the thing solely for the money and not because they like the thing. Look at Idra from SC2. He played a game that he openly hated.. and not being hyperbolic, he HATED the game... but he played it for the clout and money. Anyone who starts talking about money like KSON is doing comes across as a shallow moneyfag than someone who enjoys what they're doing and happens to get paid for it.
>>48468925I really try not to be, but it keeps getting harder and harder.I always thought there was something more beyond making a profit but I guess I was wrong.
>>48468042Haruka has easymodo. Kson dragged Nazuna into this mess (big mistake), and now Kson is openly complaining about how shit vshojo is after the "no cons" sales pitch. Nazuna will be livid and I wouldn't want to deal with that.
>>48468783
>>48469002Sure they can if Gunrun used company money for personal expenses.
didn't she start vshojo? who owns the company? kson? i wouldn't be surprised if rushia leaves next
>>48465405The people who watch Nyanners/Viebae were never watching hololive.
>>48468991Veibae has bigger numbers.
>>48468942Surprisingly believable rrat
>>48468868god that live hug on stream was so fucking sad but heartwarming...
>>48467150>anymoreThis hobby has been based around giving girls money for nothing since the beginning
>>48469002Blew it all on advertising english vtubers in Japan.
>>48468280>offered >1m$ contractpretty sure that's why the contract negotiations broke down in the first place. yagoo refused to pay. don't know why it would change now that she has even less value but wants more money
>>48469068t. 4channer with most least amount of freetime
>>48469090factually incorrect
>>48468817You could be making money right now sitting in your PC instead of having to go to bed because your McShift starts at 5am tomorrow. Licking boots isn't going to get you anywhere with the attitude you have.
>>48459186IT ALL COMESTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNIT ALL COMESTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNIT ALL COMESTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNIT ALL COMESTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNIT ALL COMESTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWN
>>48469080Good, let them kill each other.
The one to watch out for is Mouse. She's basically propping up the whole racket. She doesn't need VShojo, but VShojo needs her. If she leaves, it's over.
>>48469002they paid for 2 washed up hololivers and started an overseas operation with real staff in japan to support them when they arent even #1 in their own territory, they are absolutely foolish and inexperienced
>>48467740>>48468168>>48468280>>48468516PLEASE BE REAL PLEASE BE REAL PLEASE BE REAL PLEASE BE REAL PLEASE BE REAL
>>48469142Even just streaming?
>>48469068I'd say get help but other than necking yourself there really isn't a solution for this.
>>48468868Excuse me for my ignorance but how much of a menhera is Katana?I've never watched her gen that much expect for Watame
>>48469068>he mad
>>48468942Oh, I believe it. It's not a coincidence that when the banks are collapsing people are beginning to panic. And yet we are to believe none of that is happening by politicians and idiots that parrot what they say.
>>48459186bye lolnow she just needs to kill herself and I'll be happy
>>48468168GOD THAT WOULD BE FUCKING HILARIOUS
>>48469189Ironwhore is doomed to fall. It's only a matter of time before her dumbass slips up so hard even the simps can't deny she's been lying this whole time.
im waiting for someone to post the moon man song
>>48469087gunrun/mowtendoo/melody founded iirc
>>48467518100% correct. People freak out because they've been conditioned to be loyal to companies, which is retarded.
>>48468783jesus christ now that makes sense how that guy makes those expensive videos
>>48469189If she wants to move to Japan, it would be useful to have a company backing her. Regardless of if the company is Japanese or not.
>>48465113Now you're just being a semitic arguing about semantics
>>48468516That' a legit WWE twist. I would kneel to yagoo so hard my knees would break
How come no one cares about Melody
>>4846900211 million is nothing for people based in California, let alone agencies/corporations/companies that don't have to disclose their books and spending.That money could've easily gone to hookers and a yatch as much as it went to securing merchandising deals or even publicity.
>>48466606I don't know, Coco money was pretty good. I mean, 100k a month? Even if it's just a third of the gross amount, that's 30k a month, that's like getting an executive job at Apple, only instead of work you play videogames 4 hours a day.
>>48468942this is literally what happened. Its not a fucking coincidence
These are dark times..
>>48468960THIS TELLS ME NOTHING, ANON. I NEED ANSWERS, DAMN YOU.
>>48468783>hasan piker the commie is managed by a company connected to disney and amazonlike pottery
>>48469289No one under 40 is loyal to companies. Millennials started the trend of being unloyal and changing jobs every 2 to 3 years. Zoomers have optimized this unloyal trend further. Only Boomers think loyalty to companies is a thing.
>>48469002Agencies and corpos are known not to make the best financial decisions. Just look at what is happening to other crap such as gaming and other entertainment.
>>48469344Isn't that a good thing? Like the less eyes here the better?
>>48469002Gunrunner spent it all on backpacks
>>48469355Anon that pays for like 100 full-time employees for a year and VShojo has like 3
>>48464859What. Would you work for free?Wouldn't you reject a job offer that pays you more than your current job just because you want to be the company's dog? lol
>>48464835She's another ethot and an old one at that. There's always a younger, prettier ethot, but vtubers are forever. She should've stuck to the kayfabe.
>>48464053Pretty sure, just based off of seeing average viewers on the board. Nyan is doing numbers pretty regularly
>>48469272Real shit Gunrun must be fucking HEMORRAGING money atp. If Mouse drops out niggas aren't going to have the chance to leave, they're just gonna start getting fired lmfao
>>48468658You've noticed a lot of vtubers having a bunch of sponsored streams lately, right? Mythic is doing do great.
>>48468942Makes sense. Most startups have their accounts there.
>>48469426Read my post again. Slowly this time.
>>48469232Look at this little bitchboy not even understanding how much of a dumbass fallacy making faggot he is. People like him are such shits that they don't know clear facts when it bites them in their overweight gay dick filled ass. You have literally said nothing to even try and prove yourself right in any way. And you know why? Because you're a worthless shit who can't even make a dumb argument let alone come up with an actual reason or excuse for the whores he stole from his mom to simp for. Especially since there is literally no reason or excuse for them.
>>48468516>everyone thinks its Coco returning to hololive>it's actually Silvervale as Ame's nepotism hireimagine the board meltdown
>>48469075If you're telling me that you've tried watching several vtubers and can not see the passion in what they're doing then I seriously don't know what to tell you. Maybe stop frequenting /vt/ to get the negativity mind virus outside of your head?
>>48469420Those dumbass streaming backpacks that cost like $800 a month to rent? He was not going to get good revenue from that. Gunrun is just another corpo idiot.
VSHITSHOW IS BURNING DOWN HAHA
>>48469414Damn that's a really good point actually anon, I shouldn't have asked
can't believe EN3 was silvervale, veibae and nyanners all along
>>48468942I already posted this rrat...
>>48469002Ironmouse used it to pay for new models she'll only ever use once.
>>48469373>the commieIt's just a gimmick, no way he really believes most of the thing that comes out of his mouth.
>>48463826here's hoping
>>48469533wait, they're leases?
>>48469518>>it's actually SilvervaleI would fucking puke if that gigant shitpukecumstain reaches to EN3, it would be the absolute definitive proof of the death of hololive
>>48469212Literally Yakuza plot kino
>>48468550Not so fast. I activate my spell card Transcendent Wings which lets me send my Winged Kuriboh and two cards from hand to the graveyard and summon Winged Kuriboh LV10. Next I activate Winged Kuriboh LV10's special ability destroying itself and all your monsters dealing 3800 damage to your life points. My turn. Draw! I summon Elemental HERO Wildheart and attack you directly. That's game.
>>48466162You are allowed to talk about your pay openly based on US labor laws. Fuck off.
What, Nyanners like OUR Nyanner?
>>48461824 Red leader, standing by
>>48469591How many models does she have already?
>>48469448businesses probably dont want to go to them for promotional shit now honestly, with 3 people leaving at the same time
Both Vei and Nyanners left because they've been wanting an out for a while. Their boyfriends will provide for them, so they don't need to bother keeping it up anymore. Silver left because she's untreated menhera and couldn't stand being a borderline 2view despite being "corpo."
>>48467174Anon-chama, Melody paid for Vshojo's founding and initial budget with her own money...
>>48469384Millennials didn't start shit, just responded to incentives. When boomers pull up the pension ladder behind them what do they expect is going to happen?
>>48468710She's got a touch of the tism but otherwise personality is Canadian and the funny part of Zen streams
>>48469661Mating press.
>>48469639our (/a/-/b/-/v/ 2004-2011) Nyannersz
>>48469639>OUR
>>48469239It's so prominent she has a "Herataso" nickname now. Subaru says it sounds cute since Kanata is a needy woman but Kanata also worries to much. Impostor syndrome, reading the worst comments, browsing 5ch and so on. At least she's very self-aware and jokes about it (and others close to her like Marine joke about it too) but sometimes it becomes a feedback loop between heimin worrying about her worrying about heimin worrying about her.
>>48459186Ah so this is true "Talent Freedom"
>>48469699Oh.
so how much harder does it get to attract new talent when 3 big names just pack up and leave publicly stating the contract is dogshit
What "support" was vshojo giving them anyway?I don't watch kson so idk her reason for joining but it seems most of them were already big indies before joining
>>48469693Vei sure but Nyanners is the breadwinner in her case.
>>48469636>using a speed duel cardTHAT SHIT'S NOT ALLOWED
>>48469612Cognitive dissonance is a defining characteristic of commie grifters, you'd be surprise how much of their own shit they genuinely believe.
>graduation stickyQueen of /vt/.
>>48459186>only 1000 replies/vt/ is deadTALENT FREEDOM
>>48469515>t. chatgptthat's a lot of words my guy
>SVB happens>Gunrun loses his money>Harry Potter game happens>As a result, new contracts offer less money and less talent freedom>Geega's agency also offers talent freedom without control>Veibae, Silver, and Nyanners walkMakes you think
>>48464206I wish all holobros a pleasant evening.
>>48469639she hasnt been ours since 2015 anon
>>48469068I should read the catalog more often
Vshojo was founded with the concept of attracting Hololive fans on Youtube to Twitch.So with Twitch's finances in the tank, it's no surprise that Vshojo is running low on budget.
>>48469668Enough that if she was really sick she'd be able to cure herself of her phony disease if she used that money for treatment.
>>48469780The whore of Bab/vt/lon
it's all falling apart holy shit
>>48469628Cope tranny.
>>48469732she was ours at some point, be fore she left and do things that everyone who started on 4chin leave to do, get bigger and deny any involvement of where they came from
>>48469625You can buy them now for 3K, but back then they were exclusively leased.
>>48469766I guess the problem kind of is attracting talent cause 98% of Vtubers are dogshit
>>48469531>you've tried watching several vtubers and can not see the passion in what they're doingI tried, but then I see their twitter posts with their masks off and reality hits me in the face.
>>48468862Envtubers (80% of them vtweeters) will fade out like the fad they are. The JP brands will keep going because Japan is culturally autistic. If they keep using faxes, using stamps, and splatoon 2 still checks for windows '98, they sure as hell will keep going with vtubers even if the rest of the world drops out of it.
>>48465394Logical and based rrat
>>48469515I didn't read all that but I'm not even the original guy I just wanted to mock you for having a meltdown.
She heard my wishes. >>48139522I love my oshi.
>>48469766whatever happened to those auditions anyway?
It's no mystery that twitch vtubers would leave their corporations because of the new revenue split policy.
>>48462977This is the core of why she's a retard. The only one who could offer her a remote portion of what she asks for is Hololive. AND SHE HAD A JOB THERE WHICH SHE FUCKING LEFT. I wouldn't mind seeing her back just for the lolz but I will never respect her the same way again, when she clearly does not know what she's doing.
>>48469636Ah! You sure are good Jay! Well played.
>>48469639WE ALL HAD HER, ANON
Is this the start of the end for vtubing on Twitch?Also fuck Twitch
>>48464859this is just sad kek
>>48469833o shit I confuesd silver with vei, they both look like fucking shit to mebut you are right anon, silver should come to EN3, vei is the shitpukecumstain
>>48469843i mean, they had to fall back to only one known orbiter like haruka after that whole audition shitshow, after declining another one
>>48469766It's always easy to fill the ranks if they want to really, plenty of desperate 3views or even 2views.But they need more than that, they need talent that attracts sponsors.
>>48459186So 3 of the worst talent left, is vshojo healing?
What if there is a new secret corp hiring all these talents
So who are left in vshojo? is melody still a thing
>>48469704yep. better get a 10% raise changing jobs than a 2% raise at your current job. Capitalism doesn't mean shit anymore and if you can make money sitting on your ass then more power to you. It's why so many morons fell for nfts and shitcoins.
>>48469982One can only hope so.
>>48465025there's no money anywhere
>>48469780You might hate her, but you have heard of her
>>48469639our town bike, yes
>>48469766Unless the company folds, any vtuber corporation will be able to get enough talent to fill any talent positions they want.It might affect getting top tier "mercenaries" though.
What are the CHANCES of KSon returning back to Hololive?
>>48470002these are all money obssesed whores, what company would do it? sony? fucking kek
>>48469693but nyanners is bigger than that guy she's with, isn't she?
>>48469845Based japan and their unironic use of fax machines
>>48470023Society would be better if money didn't exist.
whore chuubas have 5 years lefttick tock
>>48469126Sad there's nobody to barge in mid-stream anymore to stop her if she's ever going to spiral out of control again.
>>48469906The auditions were all bullshit. The company already knew who they were going to hire and it was always going to be established vtubers with a certain amount of clout.
>>48470031The problem isn't just getting talent, it's getting good talent. Most of these streamers are ass
>>48459186ANOTHER RALPHAMALE VICTORY
>>48469766Are they bad because they are too big for the contract or because it's just ass in general?
>>48469766vshojo should start catering to mid to low end vtubers, the big ones aren't going corpo unless they want a full rebranding a la Gura
>>48469802Geega has an agency?I thought she was a project manager for some software development before she went fulltime.
>>48469821When has twitch ever had good finances? Or is it just the rate hikes killing another 0% APR mirage.
>>48470074Never, she has too much pride and I doubt she'd want to deal with an even more restrictive Hololive.
Something happened recently within the corporation.Nyanners leaving is a reaction to Silver and Vei being let go over internal drama, else they would have announced all three together if it was purely based on renewal of contracts.
>>48470128Honestly the streamers are better when you can interact with them without the need of superchats.
>>48470002I wouldn't imagine it to be a secret new corp, but one that already exists that has vtubers and similar looseness to vshojo. Which makes me think of Mythic, which shylily and I think vei joined, along with some normal streamers, but I kind of hope not because I don't like the people behind mythic.
>>48464196bros.....
>>48470108society wouldn't even function if money didn't exist. What the fuck do you think would motivate people to do difficult/menial jobs? Their goodwill? Retard
Moom post
>>484700740% and that's a good thing
it really is joever...
Idol EN gen 2 will be the final nail in Vshojo's coffin.
>>48468862the EN vtuber scene is dying because they never fucking talk about anime. EN vtubing is so divorced to otaku culture its fucking embarrasing
>>48469776THE THREAD IS MOVING FAST ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE LEGAL
>>48470074as they say in wrestling, never say never
>>48469821their cto literally used to work at twitch and has influence over there behind the scenes. I still don't know how they managed to fuck up so badly they lost 3 of their top talents in less than a week
>>48468942All SVB depositors are getting their money back though thanks to big daddy government overriding the $250k FDIC insurance
>>48459186Wow they really are crashing and burning aren’t they
>>48470232I think it's just a marketing agency
The thread's going so fast, no one will notice I'm gay.
>>48469904I want pink cat to deepthroat me so bad
I can't post too much detail because it would be off-topic, but MORI also had great regrets about Twitch business.
Oh nice free images
>>484700740%Even if they'd take her back now (doubtful), her pride would never allow it.
>>48470279Moom reply
>>48470292Who cares about anime in 2023
y everyone leave vshojo
>>48469841what the fuck, weren't they just glorified LTE antenna and battery packs?
>>48470292EN vtubing is literally just "normal streamer with an anime avatar" which is what the western audience likes
>>48470023based tedposter
>>48469704>millennials didn't start unloyalty to companies>they're just unloyal because it's better for themGenuine question, is your IQ below 90?
>>48470399Hot
>>48470255never heard of mythic what is wrong with it?
>>48470372I'll suck your dick
>>48470237Pride? Bitch just tweeted it's all about the money for her.
She hasn't been subtle about how little she cares about streaming since getting a bf why the fuck is anyone surprised
>>48470279moom reply
>>48459186Its over
>>48470162i saw the casino cover his divorce stream and it was seriously sad to see how lobotomized he is, like i stopped paying attention to him for 8 months and he went from hollering every week to just a rotting brain in a skull, i dont even hate him it's just sad
between this shit and fishtank i am eating fucking goooooood
>>48469982Twitch Indies are actually inclining. A lot of the big Indies have youtube videos where they show everything but their face in vlogs though
>>48470372
>>48470276>Society didn't exist before moneySasuga amerimutt
THERE'S STILL 3 HOURS LEFT IN APRIL. SOMETHING EVEN BIGGER IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOON. I CAN FEEL IT.
>>48470393Why do I always find you out here with your dumb ESL bullshitI'd say stay in the general but I'd rather you just fucked off altogether
>>48470438Ecelebs
>>48466171Hololive survived Coco and Rushia leaving. Pekora wouldn't be any bigger.
>>48469704Pensions are a fucking scam and I hate that I'm forced to pay into one knowing damn well I won't be getting that money back. Meanwhile boomers open the country to the world to making housing more expensive just to fund their own pensions. God forbid they just saved money and retired somewhere and just tried to make it on their own, since they love to brag about how independent their generation is. I'm pretty fucked with a STEM degree but working unskilled jobs due to not having the 2 years experience in addition to my degree. Fuck loyalty to companies when they won't even give me training but repost the same job adverts for months in the hope someone will come along.
>>48470489Sir, there are at least six hours left...
>>48470162>tupacAmerican culture is so fucking this. This gay nigga made 4 albums and they all sucked. Now he's some urban legend because he died and you gotta pretend like his shit don't suck or Americans get mad as hell.
>Vshojo holds "auditions">Cause the entire doxxing/Nux drama because of it which drags their reputation through the mud>End up going with a single nepotism hire of Haruka causing seethe from all the indies and 2views>Now half of their talents or more are leaving and the agency is imploding The karma here is the most delicious part of this entire shitshow honestly.Unless they were secretly saving a wave of those "auditions" for this exact moment they're fucking donezo.
>>48470279>posting a whore in a whore threadVery fitting.
>>48469789You're a worthless moronic trannyass faggot ESL bitch with the reading comprehension of a retarded blind toddler. Not once have you shown anything resembling evidence or proof. Instead you just keep ad hominem and strawmanning against me by saying that t. shit showing how much of an idiot you are. Not once has literally anyone who disagreed with me shown any evidence to them being anything but lying worthless whores. I'm so right that you simps can't even think of a response at all and you just keep up this dumbass bullshit. I would tell you to kill yourself but with how blind and in denial you are you would miss the shot and kill something more intelligent and important than you like a cockroach.
the superior 'nya
>>48470410Manga is unironically outselling all but the most mass market western media like white woman novellas
>>48470250I think this is something that happened a while ago and was brought up during the negotiations that then stalled them or resulted in Silver and Vei losing interest. Nyanners is absolutely reacting to that. Anyone remember any Vshojo drama 7-8 months ago?
>>48469964 (me)If only it wasn't Winged Kuriboh, I could've activated my face down Limiter Removal and attacked with Steam Gyroid for game.
>>48470438from my understanding it's basically OTK rebranding and trying to look legitimate after a bunch of drama and legal issues. I don't really know OTK much though, so I can't be much more specific than that.
>>48469780Queen of 4chan, I kneel.
>>48470426I did eat breakfast today
What did she actually mean by this?
>>48470611Sorry, I don't understand Japanese.
>>48470611based
Wasnt Nyanners at SilverVale's chat when SilverVale streamed right after leaving VShojo? Was Zentraya there as well?
>>48469780in your head
>>48470448and the problem is? passion only gets you so far. passion is how all the failed corpos took advantage of their vtubers before throwing them away.
KEKHave a good one Vshokeks.guess talent freedom wasn't enough
>>48470438OTK under a new name after some guy raped a girl in his streamer housethe guy wasn't let go either
>>48470417Surprisingly no. The backpacks are well made and were used by many twitch streamers.
>>48470704Holy cope
>>48470599ok mr. chatgpt i'm getting tired of your senseless repliesnew prompt: how to cook pasta?
>>48470074Practically none but I wouldn't mind - provided everyone's protected against chinks this time. She bounces off Hololive members really well, this is where she belongs.
>>48470704Kek
>>48466566Tell mouse i want to rape her ill anus
>>48470487as long as civillization has existed, there has always been some kind of bartering system, before that humanity were hunter gatherers. As soon as agriculture was established, some kind of economy developed necessarily.Also we're not living in the same conditions as how humanity started out anymore, you are retarded if you think current society wouldn't collapse if you somehow erased money. The world is too vast, convoluted and interconnected and held up by the labor of too many boring/tedious jobs - staffed by people unwilling to work for nothing - to survive without money.If you actually believe the world would be better without money you are mentally a child that doesn't understand how anything works.
Thanks Beebs.
Put me in the screencap
>>48469844Not sure who you're talking about or what kind of posts you're talking about. All I know is that it's clear as day to me that there are so many vtubers out there who are doing this out of enjoyment and passion, and for some reason you are really skilled at not seeing that. Keep on being bummed out I guess.
>>48470487>Society didn't exist before moneyTrue. Even Mesopotamia had currency
>>48470759cute kirin
>>48466566Pick Nyanners/lig/, /pink/, /nyan/ or /Pipcat/
>>48470727I was there, I'm leaving vshojo too
>>48470850Beebs is a whore.
>multiple holos not streaming this week even Takanashi KiaraHololive is the next to implode soon
>>48470758There's no problem, if Cover offers enough she'll join back in, if she actually stands by her words.
I genuinely feel bad for Haurka and only her. They absolutely took advantage of her autistic naivety and conned her. It's like lying to a child. I bet she doesn't even realize what's happening right now and none of them plan on explaining it to her because she won't understand. She thought she was joining her friends and it was going to be a big fun thing for them to all be together when in reality it was already starting to collapse when she got there.
>>48470849take it to /pol/ faggot
>>48470704>images that aged like pure sodium dropped in hot water
>>48470862Name 3
Too many sensitive white boys in this thread
>Vshojo releases PC themed cases recently >they're dropping off one by one
>>48470850You know what, vshojo can have that trophy. I retroactively never wanted it.
>>48470801I wonder if all the llms are going to be allowed to answer any questions like this.All it takes is one person getting food poisoning from following their instructions for a major lawsuit to happen.
>>48470801he's replied to a different person every time too lmao
>>48470894this time for sure, sis
>>48467381it already is
>>48470023this, the economy is over and we're just surviving on its fumes right now
>>48470410didn't demon slayer outsell all of the comics combined or some shit?
>>48464065My offspring.
>>48470276money is important for resources to go around but loyalty and honor is absolutely more essential for you to survive. Its just that giving your loyalty to mercenary entities like companies is a bad and a completely retarded idea. The merchant class is the definition of unloyal sacks of shit
and this fucking shell of a corpo and soon to be dead general won the cup.fucking bullshit
>>48464801Neuro fag here
>>48470894Yeah, Golden week is devastating to vtubing world.
>>48470850You're welcome, whore
>>48470888BASED AND CHECKED HOLY SHIT
>>48470850Wait, I haven't kept up on /vt/ league. Has every champion had some major yab shortly after winning the cup?
Posting in legendary Bread
>>48470901I felt bad for her too until I realized that not much actually changes for her. She can still play games and stuff with her friends, they'll just be independent or in different agencies.
It's only a matter of time before ironwhore's mountain of lies are exposed. Even her most gallant of white knights aren't going to be able to defend her after this.
>>48469185https://youtu.be/UgS0I9dLfJAhttps://youtu.be/UgS0I9dLfJAhttps://youtu.be/UgS0I9dLfJA
>>48470801I didn't need your coping bitchass to prove me right even more, but you have so good job. The single greatest contribution to society you have and will ever make has been using your worthlessness to show how 100% correct something literally everyone who's not a blind simp is indeed 100%.Hang that on a plaque on the wall and then yourself.
>>48464859indie for life btw
>>48468516im going to kneel for so long that i will make a hole on the floor
>>48468829wokecel advice honestly. Friends are friends and communities are communities. Both are pleasing in their own ways. Watching chuubas along with other people is the same as going to a baseball game.
>>48471052Tsunderia won the 3rd cup, Vsj won the 4th.
>>48467381they'll have to snipe Pippa if they want a bigger EN audience
>>48468357stfu you stupid niggercattle
>>48470894Do you cockheads ever get tiredThey print money on afk, literally no reason to shut the shit down
>Vshitshow being destroyed from the insideBASED BASED BASEDNyanners might be a traitor but destroying the Mean Girls Alphabitch clique of VTubing is based as fuck.
The karma for all those "no graduations" threads is really hitting all at once, huh?
are there enough graduates this year to form EN3?
When was the last time she actually streamed on her own and wasn't just a background character in her bf's streams anyway?
>>48470934KoroneAkiMarineSuiseiMikoBasically a majority of HoloJPs
>Twitch is dyinghahahaha, seriously, it's just like NicoNico.
>>48471052it keeps getting worse with each league:>/ybc/ just spooned the next league>/hirys/ spooned and also had Irys new model and outfit delayed forever>/tsunX/ killed the entire company>/current champ is /vsj+/, you are here
>>48471191Fuck off, you nijinegros had Zaion fired.
*begins casting another even more powerful spell*
>>48471216she's been streaming oblivion since a week or two ago, and every few days since.
I still remember all the "TALENT FREEDOM" threads from last summer. This is what Vshojo fags deserve.
>>48471191they're still technically not graduations, they're keeping their models and audiences and there's no "graduation" streams
>>48470901She streamed on the day of her departure and she said they have not spoken to her in months so she definitely isn't in the vshojo clique so they will not tell her a thing.
>>48471096Try not to get sent to the principle's office tomorrow morning kiddo, having these kinds of meltdowns would be embarrassing irl
show me your moves
Not that important, but how the fuck do you not tell your boyfriend about your plans? Lmao
vshojo working conditions leaked
>>48467150The thousands of vtubers with 0 views o their streams, because they just do it as a hobby while having a proper job.
>>48465421APOLOGIZE
>>48471245>Amazon service>dying?
I better see some nendo melting videos by the end of the day.
>>48471306He's trolling like usual
>>48471306lmao this has to be a joke
>>48471306When is nyanners gonna trade up from this guy, he was a gymbro and now sounds like a total faggot
>>48466933does her ass suddenly lift up?
>>48468168>was getting the bitch to join a part of your plan?
>>48471290https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0AHu5YCz90
>>48471306>99% sure yeah, okay.
>>48470850>>48471052>/ybc/ wins the first cupbanished from the board>/hirys/ wins the second cupIrys outfit delays>/tsunX/ win the third cupexplodes>/vsj+/ wins the fourth cupimplodes
>>48465270>Vtubing is dying...in the English-speaking world.
>>48471306she's now cheating on him, isn't she
The EN fad is over. It will completely collapse by year's end with mass graduations and full transitions to fleshtubing. More and more are breaking kayfabe and giving up their vtuber identities every month and even the biggest names are starting to see dwindling numbers. This is unironically the beginning of the end.
>>48471306It's a bit retard, they prob knew for months which is why the Vmalejo thing stopped getting talked about entirely
>>48469708>personality is Canadian
>>48471385I'll take him off her hands for free
>>48471306Honeymoon phase is over and Nyan is getting tired of having to co-exist with apple. thus not sharing as much as she used to when she was in love.Nyan is also cheating.its obvious
>>48471178People seething for literally years on end at Nyanners because she decided "You know what, I'm not going to pander to pedophiles anymore" would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. That's why they always vaguely call her a "traitor" without explaining what she did, because of how bad it would make them sound to actually explain why they hate her.Of course the best part of it is how successful Nyanners has been despite dropping that audience. Really kills the "get woke, go broke" mantra those people like to spout.
>>48470877make a /pipcat/ - pippa & nyanners general.Pippa and Nyanners combined is the Exodia that will bring old /b/ back.
>>48467150Mumei
>>48471445I fucking hope so anon
>>48471445holoEN shall prevail either way
>>48471250>>48471426>Irys outfit delayshonestly doesn't sound that bad compared to the others. She has her new shit now anyways.
>>48471426>banished from the boardActually they were banished from the board until they won
>>48471445I hope so. If only the hobbyists stick around it'll be a vastly better scene.
>>48471445Sounds like good news for smaller vtubers that don't break the illusion, honestly. Less competition.
>>48471426unicorn schizos start hoping for a /manstars/ win at 5
>>48471178Seriously. Vshojo is like those insufferable females you see in high school.
>>48471478She's a hag, and not the good kind...
>>48471245/lig/ is inclining though, it's just a corpo problem.
>>48471513trying to bring back old /b/ is like trying communism, it's always weird and ends in calamity
>>48466720Didn't they advise Nazuna, a bonafide "JP girl", not to play the wizard game?
This is what happens when you pander to cross dressers and Ukraine.
>>48470162based retard, ralph hates pippa, from phase connect
>>48471445my kirinwife is doing pretty well.
>>48459186What message board is she going to suck and fuck the members of next, anons?
>>48471445Total grifter death? Sign me the fuck up.
>>48471393she just flexed it
>>48471445I genuinely need a timeframe how long it will take me to learn enough Japanese to follow a holo JP girl if I can only fit in 2 hours a day at most?The dream is to one day understand either Pekora or Suisei, I hear Polka is also great but the hardest to understand. I'm probably going to see them graduate before I learn though, which kills my motivation.
>>48471445the end of vtubing profitability in the west is the best possible outcome
>yfw nyanners quits in 6 months
This hobby attracts too many ESL...
>>48471626where are the non insufferable ones hm?
>>48459186Time for the Korean Vtubers to take over
>>48471436>>48471501These guys understand women.
>>48471436She will eventually. With a vtuber model or not, with or without a company behind her, nyanners will still be who she always was.
>>48471445>Tumor thinks it's the important organ
>>48471306Nyanners is a well-known whore. She's obviously going cold on him and cheating.
>>48471717Eso es mentira
>>48471306He knew and is trolling for luls and this has probably been in the works for a long time. When I think about it I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nyanners that was the first one to reject the new contract and Silver and Vei started thinking about it after that.
>>48465979You will never be a woman, we haven’t forgotten what you ”people” did
>>48471385I don't watch males but Aethel is unironically better than Nyanners. Which is bizarre.Soda is shit however.
>>48471717Of course it does, it's like a Gatcha game on a video streaming site.
>>48461181MODS, COME ON, DO IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpdir2KaYbEBoy the beginning of this video aged like milk, but the rest aged like a fine wine.I SMELL A SEQUEL
>>48471771Soda is just so full of himself, I game with a lot of those idiots regularly and always give up on them eventually.
>>48471445Indies are doing fine, though. Besides, this is actual pretty normal when something new emerge—ever heard of the gold rush? It’s just the process of boom and bust.
>>48471445Only the dedicated to the point of insanity will remain. A future for /us/.
Nazuna is next. Welcome back to Miguelgato Empress of Menhera
>>48471717EN = global
>>48471445I don't think the "fad" of vtubing (in EN) will collapse entirely, because there are legitimate use cases for it; what I DO think will happen, and is happening, is that vtubing won't be special anymore and it just becomes another category of streamer.
>>48471550It wasn't really a bad thing for /tsunX/ either, the company was a walking corpse for the last six months of its life and even the talents themselves seemed kind of happy that it finally died. There's a reason the threads just continued as if nothing happened.
>>48467150Me. I do that. A lot of other people who post here do too, and I don't just mean the ones that forgo anonymity while posting here
>>48471767We know Vei has been looking for an out even before soda. Nyan was just the first one to actually put it out in the air.
>>48466393Yes
>>48471910meanwhile, it's just yet another form of generic character branding in japan. utterly soulless these days.
To be honest, I don't know the details about mystic talent that vei/silver is newly joining.What is the management body? China?
>She'll be allowed to keep her IPWow, really? The one she had for years before joining vshojo? So nice of you big corpo
Kson is reading the writing on the wall… but what will Miguel Gato do? Her bridges are all burned out.
>>48466566POST YOUR ASSHOLE YOU UKRAINIAN BROOM
>>48471698Assuming you speak only English, a safe bet is that it takes 3000-4800 hours for N1. (About half that for N2 and so on)
>>48468708>'you can leave anytime' is literally vshojo's only appeal>'giving exposure' is not even a privilege as all the talents in vshojo are big streamers even before they joined
>>48467167Yagoo played the long game and won.
HAHAHAHAHA
>>48471968JP stays in character so it gives the impression of real anime girls.
>>48471910It's been that way for a while, now. It was something new and fresh when it felt like there were a dozen new ones every day a while back, but a lot of them have recently loosened up or completely tossed any semblance of kayfabe and just treat the avatar/character as a mascot.
>>48471698Learning from somebody fluent is going to help you a lot than just learning on your own.
>>48468556Mythic wasn't there when she joined. And she is a vshojo orbiter, she would have signed the shitty contract no questions asked.
>>48471641yeah but the clusterfuck and flames are entertaining from afar
>>48467045>views-got nothing increase in return plus she lost more ccv comparing to indies day>money-a dirt share of merch money by what the ex-vshojo has said, a bad deal that make 3 of them quit the group.I still stand on what i'm say about her, "She's more popular when she's still indies comparing to after her joined Vshitshow"
IT ALL COMES CRUMBLING DOWNDOWNDOWN
Can't believe we're going back to the "Age of Indies".Fucking Hololive EN and Nijisanji EN couldn't keep these small fries in check.
>>48471509Pandering to lolicons isn't pedophilia you colossal idiot. If anything there's no pedophilia involved because lolicon is fictional.Nyanners is hated not out of mere pedophilia, but BECAUSE she exploited the 4chan fanbase only to betray them and turn into a Tumblrina hypocrite.
>>48471977Gotta paint themselves in a good light
>>48471870ok Artia
>>48471972It's just a restructured and rebranded OTK They had image issues and also Miz was in control of too much and just wanted to make it about himself and get attention.Mythic is more of an actual serious business.
>thread is about nyanners leaving>most posts are about ksonI'm gonna assume whatever she's posting might get terminated soon
>>48471698Look at it this way: even if you don't reach fluency before any of those girls move on from Hololive, you still learned a language that loads of great movies, music and books are in. Regular, non-anime girl streamer Japanese people are also just fun to talk to in my experience.
>>48466566Do the moonman rap one more time and all will forgiven.
This wouldn't have happened if Gunrun kept a short leash like all the other corpos.
>>48471698Irrelevant. What matters is how much dedication will you do to learn Japanese because it's not something that can be learned within 6 months to a year like those silly YouTube video says.
>>48467167now if only they axed EN
>>48471735yea, i watched an episode or two of Jerry springier. I can pretty much put a woman back together from scratch
>>48467740No thanks, Dragon whore can stay out
>>48459186Vwhorejo is going up in flames and all you can do is watch. Nyanners and her boyfriend have withdrawn from the company. Who's next?
>>48471698as an ojisan who gave up and will die without ever understanding migochi, dont be like me
>>48471977it's better than what cover doest.holofag
>>48471445I wish but nah. They're testing the waters. A new company will come with diversity as their flag. Enjoy this small victory. Because they won't just leave this hobbie alone.
>>48472086All it means is that people will have to put more effort into finding a good chuuba to oshi, a net benefit if you ask me.That and it might reduce tribalism but I'm a unityfag so I hope for that regardless.
>>48471445it is not too late.only by becoming a holoCHAD can you hope to reach salvation. save yourselves, leave your oshis behind and step into the HOLO ARK, lest you seek to drown in a never ending ocean of yabs along with your oshi. escape the GRIMMACE of small corpos and become a HoloCHAD today!repent or suffer the consequences
>Mass graduations>Corpos dying left and right>all of EN vtubing imploding>except Hololiveeveryone, do you rike?
EN vtubing will never collapse. Small corpos and /wvt/ indies are gaining more traction by the day because they resemble the older days of vtubing pre 2020. Get fucked grifters
>>48472183Nyanners doesn't stream enough to sustain a thread about her and her alone. So naturally, people move on to the other "betrayer" vtuber in vshojo.
she will be next
>>48468942That makes the most sense. Either that ir Gunrun wasted the money and the girls know this
>>48472199He literally couldn't because his whole shtick was talent freedom. It would be literal suicide if he went against his own company's motto. If anything, it pretty much proves his business model doesn't work.
>>48472301>wrestlemania star calling others whores
>>48471735>Trusting women to stay loyal Chris Brown was right
>>48472183Kson destroyed her reputation as VTuber Jesus by joining the Mean Girls Alpha Bitch of Vtubing. No wonder she is so despised as a traitor now. But no matter, she will see how corrupt VShojo is, and leave soon.
>>48472239You should start a side business cleaning and refurbishing them.
Here's to the slow painful death of VShojo!
>>48472360>except hololiveBig talk for a group whose biggest talent has been quiet graduated for months
>>48472086good, no more corpos selling us fakes that barely mask their true nature. Only the genuines shall be saved.
>>48467150first and foremost it's a job, they dont truly love you greasy looking mf's behind the screen, including myself. They love money, and they get a lot of it even if they dont make it huge. 1k Viewers is enough to make 6 digits.
>>48468516>What is contract tamperingYagoo would be a retard to do this
>>48472183To be fair Kson is doing her best to involve herself in the situation and get herself attention
>>48470292IRyS...
>>48471977something Yuri from phase didnt keep
>>48467280There's also the fact that he's not willing to go tranny (literally) to join vshojo, aka "virtual sho(u)jo" (yes they misspelled it)
>>48472428i'm sure your small corpo will beat fauna one day
>>48472360Feels good being a HoloChad
>>48472301>there can only be one orange woman
>>48472360Haachama...
>>48472410She ain't gonna leave. Kson painted herself in a corner where if she leaves, she'll fuck herself financially and her rep as a whole with no way to recover.
>>48472462>it's a jobPlaying video games in front of thirsty males isn't a job.You're no creating any value.
>>48465270>Nyanners more and more IRL appearances with Aethel had me suspecting that the vtuber boom was ending and now this.Hololive's financials are public domain because they went publicthey're averaging 1.2mil in NET income per talent. the problem isn't the boom is drying up, it's that twitch is dying (and cutting into the creators pockets because amazon are whores) and Youtube's ad revenue is down like 60%... this cuts into everyone's bottom line.if you aren't getting separate promotional deals you aren't making money unless you have hololive viewership numbers. And sadly, most of the rest of the industry doesn't see hololive viewership numbers or promotional deals. the HoloEN concert in LA sold out in <48 hours. they're actually looking around to see if they can get a bigger venue because demand was way more then they expected. It's not that money vanished, it's that add revenue from youtube/twitch is WAY down for everyone (not just vtubers)
>>48472462>they dont truly love you greasy looking mf's behind the screen, including myselfYou need a more parasocial oshi.
>>48471968I would think that weird idol cult culture would help insulate from feeling more common, but I guess that's just what japan's norms are.>>48472048When anyone can get a vtuber model with enough money or some artist connections, it devalues vtubing by a lot. Though I think, in time, it'll be a good thing; people doing it as a gimmick for views will be washed out, and the people too autistic/antisocial to be normal streamers will get some exposure back, at least for a while.
>>48472321>he says as hololive is the one corpo left standing amidst vtuber Armageddonwhile I know it technically might not work in practice ALL the time, the company keeping IP ownership incentivizes loyalty, in theory.This is the right course of action for Holo. for vshitshow it was never an option though.
>>48472552seething 2view post
>>48468280>>48468516Why would anyone want this though? Aside from how fun the threads would be for the first week or so, we would then be stuck with Coco in Hololive again, but this time as a shadow of her former self.
>>48472183They're bitching that Kson broke kayfabe and stated the obvious.
>>48467490Anon you're forgetting, swallows' like these >>48467490 >>48467391 >>48467284 are the same soi-leashes that love hearing about the bull-fucking from their lazy C-grade e-whores and pay for thatThe sanity line here is harrowingly in the negatives no matter how right you areAt least you could considerably have a chance at cucking the atm's if you found them off tinder
>>48468237neither of them have morals retard, they just want your tax money
>>48472417You can only refurbish them so much before you need a new one. Once the spare pussy (asshole) gets a flat you gotta throw the whole thing out before they start leaking everywhere.
>>48465976>her
>>48472552Most jobs don't create any value. That's not a good measure of what a job is.
>>48472552wagie, get back in your cagie
>>48472554I really hope Holo does a bigger show on the east coast. I'd love to see them in NYC or Boston or fuck, even in a shittier city like Atlanta, anywhere that can accommodate 10k~ people and make for a big Meetup.
>>48459186I feel so bad for Kson. She makes a new home and then everyone dies. Right after her massive Yakuza W too. Is she me? Any time one good thing happens I immediately get kicked in the dick 10 times.
>>48460525I checked the Vshojo reddit, they think Vshojo is a fucking scam now
>>48472301
AAAAAAAAAA
>>48472086That's a good thing. Back in the day, things used to be out of love and fun and less for profit in the old days of the internet. Corporations just found a way to use talents to double their revenue and it spread like wildfire. this happens all the time mediums I.E video games. It's not an entirely bad thing, but once it gets oversaturated, things changed. Vtubing was the same when Kizuna blew up.
>>48472653I'm mildly drunk and you made me kek anon
>>48472627go back
>>48472698>>48472708I'd rather be a wagie than pretend that e-clowning in front of retards and begging for money is somehow the same
>>48472410Kill yourself, Henri.
>>48459186Is Vshojo imploding?
>>48472554When will you retards stop spouting this>Cover went publicBullshit
>>48471445>This is unironically the beginning of the end.yeah, for fraudslet the people who really enjoy the hobby in peace
>biggest vshishow talent>only 1k postsLMAO
>>48467032>wasUntil I started bedding her, she's sucking my dick as I type this
>>48472360>gets rid of both china and coco with one stonesasuga, yagoo san
>>48472579We don't really know about Hololive's talent IP ownership views for existing vtubers because no one from Gen 0 has graduated yet.
squeeb
>>48472552It makes money, so yeah it's a job.
>>48465976>herHe doesn’t know lol
>>48472467Let's be honest, she only talks about boys, every single topic that comes out of her mouth is about boys, anime is the last thing on her mind.
>>48472894Robbing banks also make money
>>48472653Like an Onahole?
>>48472811>I'd rather be a wagieHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAH DO WAGEKEKS REALLY?
>>48472552Define "value" right now.
>>48472554add the Silicon Valley Bank bankruptcy
>>48466655It's weird. Last sunday she promised an announcement stream but backed off last minute. Now she put up another announcement stream frame.
The fact that they can't secure Mousey (and she doesn't look very enthusiast about her prospects) despite the fact that's she's the only reason vshojo still exists at all, should tell you how bad shit is over there. I think gunrun actually lost all their money on SVB.
literally who, /vt/ is hololive board
>>48472811
>>48472864(You)
>>48472871Truly a master tactician
>>48472994Death to banks and all the fake companies propped up by 0% interest loans burning fake money.
>>48472714She's cursed and will curse all those around her.
>>48472937Okay, it makes money and it's not illegal, therefore it's a job. I don't get what point you're trying to make here.
>>48470647I summon Ultra Instinct Gokkun
>>48472811????cucked mentalitykson was at the top of the world, way above you and still is somehow
>>48472811>t. teenager with rich parents
https://poal.me/aynnd1https://poal.me/aynnd1https://poal.me/aynnd1https://poal.me/aynnd1
>>48472871>1M$ per month sponsership [sic]I know she's joking because she'd have to be out of her mind to think she's worth that much with her CCV and her reputation with China.
>>48464859IT'S ABOUT FREEDOM
>>48472871Yagoo saw through this traitorous bitch's facade.
Holy shit woman.https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652841994912415744
so do you think ironmouse held out the longest in contract negotiations to leverage a better position after the other big talents leave?
So what's their real reasons that they're leaving? It can't be just contract shit, there has to be something deeper.
>>48471717No es cierto
>>48472994No one actually lost money on SVB though. They all got bailed out.
>>48473112>>48473092I support myself and live on my own.I have enough money to sustain myself, anything more is nothing but greed and immorality.
>>48473128anon...
>>48473128I think she's serious but Kson does not know how to economics and has not been paying attention how bad ad revenue has been for the last 2 years and gradually getting worse.
>>48473112based but>no kys optionkys
>>48467138i doubt it, he doesn't have anywhere near the viewership (or history with 4chan)
>>48473182>No one actually lost money on SVB though. They all got bailed out.The depositors (savings and checking accounts) got bailed out.Owners of SVB itself, the corporate entity, and shareholders all lost their investments. Employees of SVB lost their jobs.
>>48468958Over Status?
It's the end of an era...
>I want vtubing culture to die>her vtubing company diesSuffer Kson you earned it
>>48473177if you thought holoEN had a clique problem or nijiEN hated each other, then you're not prepared to know about the relationships between vshojo members
>>48467150Males.
Did ESLs in this board just misinterpreted and twisting Kson's words.
>>48472871VshojoJP=/=Vshojo EN
>>48473128It's just an example of an insanely good contract, it doesn't mean she thinks she can get it.
>>48468958THE BREACHER OF CONTRACTS STRIKES AGAIN!
should i cut my losses and cancel my vshojo merch?
>>48473345They do it for cock instead.
>>48466925>Kekson: Vshojo is on our side and its the best>Also Kekson:WTF! You cant trust this bitch at all!
>>48472811think femanon think. you get free money from desperate males without any GFs
>>48473211>I think she's seriousScalar exaggeration and sarcasm is sometimes hard to pick up on over the internet, but you have to be pretty fuckin' dumb to not pick up on the hyperbole of someone saying "Yeah I love my job but if someone offered me a million per month I'm outta there lol"
>>48473329I'm pretty sure that's what it is, too. You get a whole bunch of bitches together and they'll act like bitches.
>>48473355I dunno anon, why don't you have a look at this https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652830550800089088 and tell me
>>48473399Taking advantage of the weak isn't a good way to live.
I genuinely hope for a full financial collapse so these talentless whores who offer no real world value will go back to the one thing they're good at, sucking cock for food
>>48466272Don't put this fake fucker on there, put me on the screencap/video
>>48472469Yuri wasn't an indie before joining Phase. Cyberlive/Aetheria was just a retarded trainwreck.
>>48466925>Trusting the accuracy of GTBrave. I'd put my money on the context getting mangled, personally.
>>48473293I do not think she is suffering.
>>48473428especially the westernized ones it was doomed from the start
If you told me two years ago that VShojo would have graduations sooner than Myth, I would ask what meds are you on
>>48473177It would be internal drama with the girls.The real reason to stay at corpo is collaborations and events. If no one is doing anything together because Froot said this and then Nyan tweeted that and now Mel and Zen don't talk and whatever, then what's the point?The salary and contract stuff is an afterthought of the above.
>>48473379Not being a misogynist, but imagine taking what internet women say at face value.
>>48473447ESL can't handle a joke
>>48473447Its a Kekson Apologist, dont expect too much from him
>>48000506>>48002193>>48008565>>48033116
>>48473504to be fair I have no idea why Mori wasn't graduated yet
>>48473504there were tards that swore that the entirety of holoMyth was gonna leave for vshojo, now I think that them making their own company/multi channel network is more plausible
>>48473504This unironically
>>48473370you should cut your loses and kill yourself right now
Grifters get fuckedThe graceful hand of karma slapping normalfags in the ass. purged like verminit's over for corpos, (You)r oshi will be next
>>48459186>Nyanners leaves VshoujoWho? All i see is shitposting and gloating. Nobody gives a fuck here. Please be more responsible with what you are pinning. Actually know what the fuck people are into.
>>48472811>I'd rather be a wagie than get paid for my vidya addictionYeah, sure bud.
>>48473588Fuck Im late!!What this the deleted post?
>>48473505So the wizard game killed their corpo?
>>48473452That's not romantic. The Reality is more like mutual assisted suicide and that's beautiful.
>>48473177There doesn't always have to be a deeper reason. Contract can just suck really bad, or maybe they've found that vshojo doesn't actually do much for them that they actually care about.
>>48472368Feels fucking good man.
GOOD FUCKING NEWS BROS WE EATING GOOD TONIGHT HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTT
>>48473552Can't wait for your oshi to graduate corpokek
SHE WINS! FUCK YOU! YOU STUPID PINO CAT! NO MORE PEE PEE POO POO STREAMER!
>>48473196>anything more is nothing but greed and immoralitywhy is greed wrong, moralfag? Explain. You realize that whatever gay reatrded belief system you have to justify your pitiful poorfag existence is not just a cope, but was literally invented by elites and the the upper class to keep you trapped in your social class, right? Imagine still being this blind and retarded in current year. Anyone with any sense knows that shit like 'muh morality' and 'muh work ethic' is a fucking scam and should be trying to climb the ladder and exploit the system as much as possible.
>>48473599UMG Japan signed that record label contract with Mori not because of the person behind Mori but because of the Hololive brand being that big
>>48473447see? >>48473675
>>48473677She's still gonna stream, it'll just be as an indie.
>>48468393Wait, please tell me "talent freedom" is photoshopped there
>>48473647kek, seems like it
>>48473613>them making their own company/multi channel network is more plausibleSo let me get this straight: there is a group of 5 streamers, 2 of whom barely stream, and one of whom has an entire music career bolted on and requires multiple support staff to sustain.That group is going to found a COMPANY? And do what exactly?
>>48473643I work a remote job in a respectable multi national tech company.Why would I replace that with turning vidya into my full-time job?Imagine having to talk with other adults and getting the "so what do you do for a living anon?" and you have to reply with >ummm, I play vidya gaems and beg for virgins on the internet for money, uhhh, I got merch and stuff...
HE'S IN
i just wish the fad of talking about how much you love the company and how you're all friends would end. it just makes it hilarious and weird when they turn around right after that and say they left for the money.like bitch if you're there for the money just say it in the first place and stop pretending to be a big happy family
>>48473736NTA he is not wrong tho.
>>48473768I'm not saying that's ever gonna happen, I'm saying that even that is more probable than them joining vshojo
This is why you can never allow woman to represent your company. They cause so much drama. It was wise for hololive and Nijisan to have a male branch.
>>48467150Kiki over at /pyon/ straight up told lumi in a discord convo that she was happy having a small 4chan audience and didn't need to become big or make money
>>48473177>twitch is dying.>Vshojo is essentially running twitch.>Vshojo has to cut its budget.>Mythtic talent can also help talent develop content on popular platforms such as Tiktok.What else?
>>48473747It is not, that was literally their motto
pet schizo wins
>>48473505Yeah, very likely. If you've got people who won't cooperate because of some bullshit drama, then your company won't last long.>>48473647It was probably the last straw that broke the camel's back for some.
>>48468067she's been saying that for over 5 years and counting>get a new model>I'm dying!>simps: this could finally be it ironmouse could literally be dying right now and we have to give her all of our money>model paid off in less than a day after debuting it>don't mention your illness again until a few months later when you get yet another model>cycle repeats itself
>>48473790Loved this guy.
>>48473355You're a fine one to talk about ESL.
>>48467150Males, indies, literally anyone who isn't a whore like Vshojo.
>>48473177well if the contract is shit they can just leave. It's not like vshojo had any hold on their creative vision to begin with. It's a strong reason why they got kson. Vshojo was much closer to a esport brand sponsor than an agency, but without competition. They probably strongarmed the deal and lost. That said silvers stream was very interesting. She basically has bad blood with mousey and even suggested that connor is dating her at the moment. She's very much the snake of the group.
>>48468393Ii don't follow vshojo and never bothered to figure out whether or not this was actually real. Did they really do this? I know they ran ads in Japan, but "talent freedom"? This is just too on the nose. Reality can't possibly be this funny.
>>48473177I dunno about Silver, but Nyan and Vei are pretty much normies in relationships and they can't be fucked to otaku anymore, not that Vei was a nerd in the first place anyway.
>>48473747it's not
>>48473790imagine
its funny, you said they werent allowed in /pink/, now (YOU) aren't allowed in /vsj+/ LOL
>>48473599Mori saw firsthand from Kekson and Rushia that leaving the blue dorito does not guarantee that the fans/money would follow. Now she's toughing it out in holo because there isn't really any better choice in the EN sphere.
It's always funny seeing the delusinal fucks thinking people would cater to these fagots with out substantial payment. "n-no! i used to watch xyz person before they got big and there still doing the same thing!"Shut up faggot, no one just clicks the go live button, there are several mental steps involved in deciding to invest your time and money into this shit. And if you still don't believe me, good.Keep donating money pussy.
>>48473855>>48473916jfc
>>48473647Not entirely. It's just little things like,>Mouse cancelled the collab again. I'm not even gonna bother with the next one>I haven't heard from Vei in 5 months. I'm not doing X if she won't even do the quota streamsThe reason everyone gets invested in corps are the character dynamics.
>>48473793I belieb. Real friends turn against each other all the time.
>>48473644archivechama...
>>48473868That's not fair anon, she also mentions her illness during her subathon(s).
>>48473909
>>48473781>he says while he hates on women who roleplay as anime girls on a basket weaving forum siterelax Mr. holier than thou
>>48473842>This is why you can never allow woman to represent your company.I dunno, Sora has been doing a solid job for 5+ years. Bit of a special case though.
>>48466762>yagoo buys vshojo>then he hires pet schizo
>>48473938>Keep donating money pussyPeople here don't donate.
>>48473494She was for a period inbetween CL and Phase. She had ownership of her model before signing to Phase. Lumi is in the same situation yet apparently retains the rights to her character.
>>48473934HoloEN and NijiEN imploded themselves for no reason
>>48473909It was legit and now it's the biggest fucking piece of irony
>>48467150Tsubaki Samura. She's not even accepting donations or Superchats, period. Though she only gets like 10 people watching her streams. https://www.youtube.com/@Tsubaki_Samura
>>48473938whatever Ksonstop visiting here, it's unhealthy
>>48471445I remember posts like these were celebrated in pre-/vt/ days. I want all of you normalfag twitter content farm tourists gone. Leave the actual vtuber fans alone
>>48470372Faggot.
>>48466847This is what actually happened, and your problem with this is...?
>>48473599>to be fair I have no idea why Mori wasn't graduated yetyou have no fucking clue how much $$ she's making thanks to being in hololive. mori is huge in JP... you might loathe her but the nips love her.
>>48473934Thanks for reminding me Mori was close to Kson, Hajime and IM. She was probably thinking of jumping ship and now she just missed out on boarding the titanic.
>>48473938Shut the fuck up kson
>>48473995This feels like a hundred years ago, but it was just last year. Things were finally starting to look up.
>>48471910>vtubing won't be special anymore and it just becomes another category of streamerYou're about 2 years late
>Kekson: Vtubing will die in 5 years>Also Kekson:It seems someone has been curse by watamage
>>48474098but then, why does she still cling onto Takamori?
>>48473790I'm surprised he hasn't shot himself on stream while drunk.
>>48467469>They won't drop someone immediately just because she said something that they see disagreeable.i know its your first time here but you dont have to try so hard, anon
>>48473359Until the first non-prolonged JP contract.
>>48467727she makes game art. most of it for exploitative mobile trash but she's done a couple pc games.
>>48473613>I think that them making their own company/multi channel network is more plausiblemore plausible then joining vshit sure... but that's like saying there is a 1 in a million chance of something happening.
>>48473781>Yeah I'm actually a streamer for a living.>Oh like [popular streamer]?>Yeah just like [popular streamer].>Oh wow, I wish I could get paid to play videogames all day.>Haha yeah I'm pretty blessed, but it's more work than you might think.And then the conversation just flows on from there.
Rushia is my idol forever, I try to support her wherever she goes. It pains to see her having a hard time to settle down and do her own thing in a very long time...
>>48473793this is the most retarded take in the matter I've read so farit IS weird to pretend you are a family but only because they don't even get along
>>48459186Why does vshitshow shit always get pinned? Who the fuck cares about Nyanners AKA hypocrite cat?
>>48474202that's the point, anon
>>48474210cucks will be cucks i guess
I love the reactions to these news, everyone is overwhelmingly positive towards those leaving and make fun of Vshojo left and right. How many chuubas did Gunrun piss off with those fake auditions.>https://twitter.com/zumlings/status/1652817844684423169
>>48473938Even if I don't watch your stuff, I have always respected you kson
>>48473359wait until contract renewal time in about a year
>>48473938Is your keyboard fucked or something Kson? You were making typos on twitter too.
>>48473934Sad thing is, Coco's fans did follow. At first. Everything else is entirely on her.
>>48474098and yet she claims that 90% go towards taxes because she has to pay them in the US and nippon jfl
>>48469825Yeah bro, let me just cure an incurable disease real quick
>>48474098Mori also has a very profitable side gig with very good merch sales.
>>48473493It's not, so if you were to bet it you'd have lost your money.
>>48474205>>Yeah I'm actually a streamer for a living.>>Oh like [popular streamer who killed her mom]?>>Yeah just like [popular streamer who killed her mom].>>Oh wow, I wish I could get paid to play videogames all day.>>Haha yeah I'm pretty blessed, but it's more work than you might think.>>What does your wife think about it?>>Huuuuh..>>Yeah I thought so haha, oh whoops, looks like it's time for my project meeting, have fun with the video games anon :^)And they never respect you ever again
>>48473995Talent freedom to fuck off any time.
>>48474258Dont care, I would pay and watch her sex videos if she did one.
>>48474107I think she's happier for it too. When she cancels her break to stream more, it must be pretty good even with shitty JP times making her streams anathema to USA viewers.
These gotta be some real shit contacts.
reeeeaaaallllyyy wish we could find out how dogshit the new contracts werecant believe vshojo would rather let 3 huge talents fuck off than negotiate and take the contracts back to the workshop for better terms
So it's not about freedom but money right? so gunrun was just syphoning off the girls not giving any back?
I do hate mouse.
>>48467847rare enlightened individualist take from tribalist hellscape
Isn't this just a glimpse of Vtubers in the EN is collapsing? So many Corpo without a Japanese root have collapse in the EN Market recently.
>>48474288No, Na education fucked me.
>>48474406Probably Machinima level contracts. They have obligations and the company takes a percentage that may be too much from merchandising.
>>48474339Until she played apex.
>>48469780lol u wish
>>48474397as long as you embrace it anon, im happy for you.
>>48473781Why are you concerned about what strangers in real life think? You didn't make friends during adolescence? Also you sound like a massive normalfag and I don't know how you ended up here unless you're a falseflagger.
>>48474419Kinda shows how bad their situation must be if they can't move an inch to accommodate their talent.
>>48470292Sadly true. EN vtubing is basically twitch the anime girl. I don't mind a couple EN vtubers who aren't strict otaku but bring something interesting to the industry... but most are just generic ethot or generic let's play streamer.
>>48474423Yes he was
>>48474419If you paid attention to current events with bank collapse you can put 2+2 together
>>48459186It's fucking funny to see how Iron and Kson tweet a bunch of nonsense to appease damage control after vei and silver leave.
>>48473938It's alright sonchou, your head will clear by the end of the day.
>>48474464men who hate real women want to see women acting like anime women, shocking and that's fine I guess
https://discord.gg/VXNjP7mEhttps://discord.gg/VXNjP7mEhttps://discord.gg/VXNjP7mE[[
>>48474359I cant believe usada pekora killed her own mother
>>48474313that's actually partly true. she owes japanese income tax, she can deduct that from her US taxes, but she still needs to pay her SSI and state taxes. when it's all said and done i wouldn't be surprised if she was taking a 70% hit on them. i'm sure a skilled tax attourney might be able to help her set up a corperation and reduce that greatly, but her tax hit is still probably insane. (it's mostly cause she makes a lot). But you notice she hasn't left japan, though her tax hit would probably be 1/2 that what she's paying now. That's because of all the money she's making in japan from japanese promotional fees and the japanese music industry. leaving japan would probably cost her more in pure income then she'd save in taxes.
>small corpos have outright terminations>most people accept that the corpos are probably not shit>vshojo has contract non-renewals>everyone realizes it was always a shit companytopkek
>>48470279>posting a whore in a whore threadhow fitting
>>48474477Machinima were straight up scumbags with the exploitative contracts they offered to up-and-coming youtubers back in the dayIf Vshojo is going down the same route they won't have long left before imploding completely
>>48467381fishman has big things planned for the new invaders, that and the speculation for gen 3 is showing this might be a great year once they get the ball rolling
>>48472922big miss, nijinigger
>>48466990She's a lazy ass
>>48474538Kson will probably regret tweeting all of that later.
>>48474538It's so transparent too.
>>48467824It was an obvious ''take that hololive'' strategy
>>48474397Based and same
I'm ignorant about the inner workings of VShojo. Wasn't Nyanners one of the founders? Why would she jump off her own ship? Are things really that bad?
Amazing to see how one anime cat girl can make so many beta yes-men discuss about the future of vtubers.
>>48470292Gura got it right just watch CGDCT favorite moment clips on youtube and steal jokes. Takes 15 minutes of research to pass as legitimate.
>>48459186QR????
>>48474736And was it successful?
>>48468092the cancer in this is your simplistic understanding of polisci. you need to look up what the political compass is so you can understand how authority and liberty play a part. you are describing entirely different groups of people, not people who have changed. what's changed is who has power.
>>48472428Marine literally uploaded a video yesterday and streamed 2 days ago. wtf are you talking about retard?
This is pretty interesting, I wonder whats gonna happen? Regardless something great is gonna come out of all this drama
>>48473781>wanting to interact with strangers irl>caring what other people think about youwhat is a normalfag doing here?
>>48474533>people are scared of banks collapsing>banks will collapse if everyone takes their money out at the same time>people start taking all their money out at the same time>bank collapsesself fulfilling prophecy
>>48474473Fair call
>>48474601If I remember that issue was caused by how she registered her domicile. She effectively paid double taxes until that was fixed. Most countries have tax agreements about where you pay your tax and how large a cut your home country gets.
>>48474419Compare and contrast the people that left and those that stay.
>>48467150Reine probably does it for the pussy that she still doesnt get
>>48468393>>48473747The freedom for your talents to leave
What's all this commotion down there?The sewer rrats must be drowning in their own filth again.Kek of the day, feels good to be a HoloGOD
>>48474762shes more of a pillar and that pillar has collapsed along with other pillars who knows when the whole thing will just cave in on itself
>>48467996you do know she's going to finally drop the idea of being a vtuber soon and has been edging towards that for months ?
>>48474792fuck no lmao, I guess they expected the fanbases to change corpos just because they saved Rushia but holofans don't give a shit, they are okay with graduations as long as there's a reason for it and then they keep watching hololive
>>48467824They wanted to tell the freedom of the developed world to the retarded nips.
>>48474679The problem was also that they were one of the few ones that handled the contact with YT. what is some nobody going to do? call the helpdesk. Vshojo only exists because Gunrun is their connection to Twitch. Mousy wasn't even partned for the longest time pre-vshojo and meldoy was on her 2nd ban or something.
>>48474816Vshojo lowers its criteria for recruitment and starts Nijisanjification. Or they go bankrupt before the end of the year as investors of that $11 million starts knocking on Gunrun's door.
>>48474397What is the career progression like for green woman? fleshstreamer > vtuber > FC2 PPV ??
>>48474601clinging to two states is the ultimate internationalist clique pill. japanese migration autism aside, pretty sure that can be resolved easily by virtue of being employed, in financial security and able to speak the language, what stops her from setting up residency in japan for good?
>>48474762Vshojo was founded by three menNyanners was hired in what was basically "gen 1" for Vshojo aside from the company not operating in generations like that
>>48467150Kotonoha Yukino indie japanese streamer, she does mainly asmr streams but also plays games... at a decent level. Has been doing this for 4 years already and refuses to apply for membership... I still don't know why I think she does this because she likes it. https://www.youtube.com/@yukinochannel/
>>48468393Now… piss on her poster. NOW!!!!
>>48473938JSON PLEASE LET ME MARRY KANATA!!!!!!!>JSON PLEASE LET ME MARRY KANATA!!!!!!!JSON PLEASE LET ME MARRY KANATA!!!!!!!>JSON PLEASE LET ME MARRY KANATA!!!!!!!JSON PLEASE LET ME MARRY KANATA!!!!!!!>JSON PLEASE LET ME MARRY KANATA!!!!!!!
>>48474854>If I remember that issue was caused by how she registered her domicilewell i think that was tied to her initial VISA in japan. But you're right, again a good US tax attorney could probably save her a fortune, there are tricks around her situation, but she probably had no fucking clue how bad it was going to get till she started making real money.
based 'talent freedom' getting btfo>>48466672>talentlessno one could stay afloat like she does without talent>>48467537How is sustainability the issueTheyll still be horny>>48467150How is money the issuewas vshitshow not making money?
Does this mean that we're not getting another backpack karaoke stream with Gunrun?
>>48474762Silver was also a founding member, so that has no bearing on this.I'm sure there's more going on behind the scenes, but ultimately if the talents can keep their own models and channels without a company, why would you stay in it?Wonder if it has something to do with their investments in that Silicon Valley Bank drying up though
>>48474762Mowtendoo and GunRun
>>48468173currently half the industry is falling off, pink rabbit and the most successful talents they have appeal to a completely different audience, I don't see how she's a filter to the 200 selen fans out there crying about apex matches
>>48474944Of course it wouldn't work, no one in Japan gives a fuck let alone knew what Vshojo was until they pulled this shit. Wonder how much this set them back in terms of money.
LOL GURA WINS!
This is why vtubing should be restricted to JP onlyThese EN e-thots might as well open an onlyfans and stream as camwhore vtubers if they want money that badly.
>>48473790KEK
>>48468393>talent freedom >talents were freed SUGOIIIIII !!!!!!!
>>48475158ok weeb-kun. japanese girls would never do that, right?
>>48468199>Probably hoped to poach some Holo / Niji members.This is what I think the plan was. Kson probably even knows some girls that aren't entirely happy with their current corpo gig but none of them had the balls to pull the trigger and gamble on Vshojo. It's beginning to look like staying put at holo/niji was the right call if that was the case though.
>>48475144>doesn't stream>still winsThe best way to win is to not play.
>>48467992>>48474736it's incredible how vindictive, sad, and petty this strategy isgood riddance
>>48475158>These EN e-thots might as well open an onlyfans and stream as camwhore vtubers if they want money that badly.You say that like the literal camwhore isn't one of the kinder and more reliable members of her corp.
>>48467150Ain't nobody ever did it who didn't wanna get paid for doin' it.Whether it's "just" for the money or not, that differs person to person.
>>48474924She used to do fleshstreams before becoming a vtuber too. I used to watch her in her 3views phase.
I, a deadbeats, hope mori understands the disadvantages of getting involved with the Twitch community.
>>48475217I jacked off to one of her OF leaks she seems alright
with twitch's 50 50 splits starting and the general downturn, i bet a lot of streamers will decide their management taking a cut isn't worth it anymore
>>48467183Black person owned company, you never want to work for those.
>>48475031>Has been doing this for 4 years already and refuses to apply for membershipvery based. I only know her asmr stuff, this is neat intel
>>48475158Like Melody, a full-fledged camwhore vtuber
Damn, it feels good to be a holochad right now
>>48475189Yeah I don't think I understand what /vt/ is worked up about. I don't watch Nyanners, Vei or... the other one I forget who it was. I haven't watched them, but at least for VShojo's part, even if the company dies it looks like they lived up to the "Talent Freedom" motto by giving talents the freedom to leave and continue independently as themselves.That's more freedom than you get at other companies.
>runs your company into the ground with $11 money seed moneyi kneel
At this rate, Gura ironically will be the last EN vtuber to graduate.
>>48473781>Respectable>TechAI is coming for you wagie. Your job is meaningless, you are but a replaceable cog in a dying machine. Unique entertainment will forever be desirable
>>48474359That just makes it sound like your social circle is a bunch of cunts that will actively try to tear each other down. Who the hell actually has "murderer" as their default idea of a streamer?
POMF POMF KIMOCHI
I feel like 99% of this thread doesn't realize that literally all of them are still streaming except vei she hasn't been seen in almost a month
>>48459186Another one bites the dust, holoCHADS stay winning
>>48475404>silver standing next to frootPoetic
>>48475404When I started my company, $300k was considered middle-of-the-road amount of "seed" money. ZIRP really fucked everyone's ability to reason about risk over those 15 years.
>>48475031Yukino is pretty based and my wife.
>>48475047Kanata is only for menheras and hags
>>48475331Yeah I do think part of the blame/reason lies with twitch
>>48475158tell me you have no knowledge of JP chuubas prior to seiso corpo identy without actually telling me
>>48475455>Unique entertainment
I used to watch Vshoj a lot, but then all the girls just went on and did their own things.The fun of it all was watching the girls interact on events and group streams.Shame because characters like Nyan and Vei had good chemistry on screen. Really only HoloEN fills that void, even if the humour is more quaint.
>>48475391You are stupid.
>>48475370I like Melody, I know where I and other fans stand with her and she's pretty funny when she's not being a whore. Plus Peepee get big when watch so that's nice.
>>48475322What do you mean her leaks, her CB vods are free
>>48475229You Americans are mindbroken
>>48475458still her greatest work to this dayNyanners is a fucking faggot for abandoning her past
>>48474046Lumi has big oil barons that paid for her new model. Yuri did not and was paid by Phase.Lumi said contracts are different, so lemon woman might easily be able to walk away without getting nuked. Yuri didn't, and so she is nuked.
>>48475553Id watch if it werent for the men. Why the FUCK they kept leaning on the boyfriend shit.
A few days ago"Why doesn't yagoo provide proper services to talents, can't cover even afford a Twitter badge?"Now
>>48468168>yagoo sends corporate sleeper agents to subvert the competition and successfully tanks them.god i wish
>>48475556Can you tell me what I am missing? What are people upset about? I'm not being disingenuous: I don't care a flying fuck about VShojo, but stepping back and judging it dispassionately, it looks like things are working out as best as can be expected? It's not like Nyanners is getting sued for leaving or being threatened with them taking ownership of her IP?Are people here upset that this isn't some big legal mess and they're not fighting more?
>>48475548Thats was last year ago, everyone already forgotten that>because it produces generic anime avatars
>>48475448>on hiatus>ENvtuber mass graduation bronze age collapse tier >comes back from break>no one around anymore>"huh, what happend?"
>Just thinking today just a few minutes before going on /vt/ "haha wouldn't it be funny if yet another graduation happens this month">mfw
>>48459186>only the sluttiest vtubers left the orgthis is a good opportunity to cleanse vshojostill, trying to clean vshojo's reputation after all these whores dragged its name through the mud is going to be near impossible if not impossible.
>>48475548>Tech fag posts tech Whoa btfo! Nice cope anon. Enjoy the cagie, wagie
>>48475770You fucking idiot.
>>48470886Hi Zen.
>>48467367I'm laughing my ass off right now.
>>48475714It's not the boyfriends themselves, it's that the boyfriends leak into real life.People want to see two anime models play with lightsabers in vrchat, not an unboxing for a deskchair in a poorly lit apartment.
>>48475770People just hate vshojo because >western, that's pretty much all there is to it.
>>48475548what program is that
>>48475774>>48475823CopeKeep consooming bottom of the barrel shit
>>48466754Epic
>>48475785at this point i'm expecting the pink wall announcing mouse leaving too and then one a few months later announcing the company has folded and all the remaining talents are indies again
>>48475780Everyone form the old guard is dying.
>>48470403i don't know man, i think if she still had pride she wouldn't be making multiple contract begging tweets. that's deeply humiliating imo, and implies she absolutely would go back. this is about money for her.
>>48474419yea i am infinitely curious
>>48474970Ooh that does sound quite interesting! Hopefully Mel and mouse don't get fucked over too much, they're pretty fun to watch every 3 months.
>>48459186posting in a sticky
>>48466906Skuba steve?
>>48475871As long as you keep producing it pajeet
>>48475850True. 3D collabs is like some Roger Rabbit shit.
why is this even news, let alone pinnedits just pink cat taking off her vshojo label, she keeps everything. vshojo barely existed beyond being a label anyway
>>48475949I'm whiter than you Jammal
>>48475579oh, well i dont really know her i just saw them on a sketchy website so i assumed pretty based of her i guess
>>48475803>Who is Kson>Who is Melody
>>48475458I WANNA RIDE ON NII-CHAN ALL DAY LONG!
>>48474419Nazuna will leak it when it's time don't worry
>>48476020>Who is KsonKson is my boyfriend's wife.>Who is MelodyMelody is her friend.
>>48475904She isn't begging, she's coping. Her cope is that multiple talents quitting is good, actually.
>>48474816Pink cat will probably do/say something stupid that will fan the flames of war and this board will be unusable (fun af)
>>48475994The news is that Vshojo is imploding>Json already asking for any company that give better contract>NotRushia streamed as mike and said(not directly) shes not renewing her contract
>>48470571i don't even think the music matters, it's more he was immediately deemed a martyr, a paragon of virtue in and out of the "black community" and it never made a lick of sense to me (as someone who had just left adolescence when he died). he was literally always a violent bigot. they idolized a literal gangster before his corpse was even cold and still do. the quality of the music can be chocked up to objectivity and isn't nearly as important as the pedestal they put the quality of his dogshit character on.
>>48476010>Do not redeem the entertainment sirsSure you are ranjeetDon't you have some copy pasting to do?
>>48474816I want Nyanners to taunt Pippa for a catfight
>>48476090Fauna's image doesn't deserve to be attached to such an incredibly cringe and underaged post.
>>48476172I'm not Vedal
>>48476061God that would be hilarious. 2 for 2 on leaking internal information.
>>48476186Vtuber wrestling promotion when?
>>48476137Insert Americans worship niggers copypasta here
>>48468276I am not a fan of this particular gif, you should end your life posthaste
>>48471509This is what I don't get either. I'm not really a Nyanners fan anymore, but I've read her statement on Pomf Pomf before, and now just again. What's the big deal? She was like 15/16 when she made it and grew out of her edgy 4chan self. People change as they get older, and it's pretty understandable for her to be grossed out at some of the stuff she was into back in the old days.
>>48459186Well shit, how bad is the new contract?
>>48476260Streetshitters all sound the same to me
>>48476244And yet you can't do anything
>>48476349>Freaky
>>48476373newfag detected
>>48474970Vshojo goig bankrupt is a lot more plausible than the other due to the economy and business shutting down.
>>48476414t.Chatgpt
>>48476353She was also 18 in 2014 (peak tumblr years) when the infamous posts were made. She's much more mellow towards the whole thing now.
>>48472839They had an IPO - they offered both new and existing shares on the public stock marketThey are now subject to public reporting requirementsHow is that not going public?
>>48475321>mori>learning
>>48472554>it's that twitch is dyinglmfaoPlease never trade stocks, you have the prescience of a fucking dodo bird
the drama is overback to shitting up the log with garbage
>>48475321what relevancy does this have to anythingthey're all still streaming on twitch
bosting in ebin normal thread
>>48476186A Twitter war with two of the most mentally unwell vtubers? Sounds like plenty of fun hijinks could possibly ensue.....
>>48476618You mean with generals
>the thread is not a sticky anymorescatter
>>48476493>t. Twitch CEO
>>48476493That's the objective truth though. Twitch numbers have been going down the drain. They could never figure how to do Ad revenue, the CEO never gave a damn, a lot of big streamers just moved to youtube.
welp, fun's over. See you fags when the next vtuber graduates in like, 48 hours
>The thread is not a sticky anymore.PANIC
AIEEEEEE MEIDOS PLAY POMF POMF NOWWLast tribute for the 4chan queen!
>>48476493I don't understand why you are laughing.I too think Twitch is dying.
>>48476713ironmouse lets gooooo
>Nyanners Graduation Stickies RemovedHERE WE GO!!!!!!!!
>>48476493imagine being bezos cocksucker
>>48469746God I wish I knew Japanese.
>>48476493You haven't been paying attention to anything lately have you
>>48474419that's what SVB collapse will do to you
>sticky didn't even last half a daynot such a big deal
>>48476713>>48476759It's gonna be Rushia again
>>48476713How about this!?!?!?>>48476694
>>48476493Ever wonder why Twitch streamers are sponsored by Asian gaming companies and not Western companies?
>>48473790It would be kino
>>48476020>MelodyI don't care about Vshojo in general, but Melody is pretty wholesome.
>>48459186Rest in Piss vshitshow
>>48475894I used to watch them a lot, and I haven't really kept up much on the recent drama, but holy shit after seeing these recent announcements I agree with you. This company is a ticking time bomb at this point ready to blow at any minute
>>48476353I think more of the issue is that nyanners is now in retrospect what we'd call pickme as all fucking hell in her early days pre-vtubing. Like that's literally all she fucking did was pander impossibly hard to the most degen horndogs she could find on /b/.I guarantee she hates Pippa because Pippa is like a spitting image of her young self, a phantom of the old pink cat given form and morphed into pink rabbit.
>>48469090I watch just about all large companies except niji, but only nazuna and pink cat from vshojo
>>48459186Goes to show that even the worst Holo JPs cannot be remotely compared to these generic, mass-produced, slutty, fotm EN vtubersJust shut the whole thing down and call it a day.
>>48476493have you watched one stream on twitch?>open stream>ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS jessus fuck fucking unwatchable site
>>48476989why are you not using adblock
>>48475404>mouse will continue being the queen bee as long as she can until connor convinces her she's too good for them>froot is too afraid to leave knowing she won't have the security blanket to keep her from being harassed if she leaves >zen likely doesn't care what happens as long as he doesn't have to use mic or do a handcam stream>melody probably doesn't give a shit either, she makes more from CB than twitch anyways>would probably do everything they can to keep hime because that's their ticket to trash taste and in turn gigcuck>kson showed her true colors that she'd jump ship immediately if she got a better offer from someone>michael has her side channel going and can just go back there, would probably be glad not to have to stream on twitch anymore
>>48476090she has already a stream scheduled titles 'report' lol
>>48477051That frame was up over 9 hours ago.
>>48477029retardthe point is that twitch has to oversaturate with ads because they have very little revenuehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHi2MrhLSc
>>48476807With Western vtubing market in this state it's gonna be a valuable skill once again by the time you learn it.
>>48477102yea so? keeping people on edge and dramabaiting is her shtick. she knew nyanners would announce her leave later
>>48477125butwhy are you not using adblock?I don't see any ads
>>48476353>annoying underage groombait panders to /a/ and /v/>does a 180 and starts bitching about how 4chan and loli are evil and how she hates all men>sees vtubing, realizes she hasn't been relevant in years, inserts herself into the field and panders to the people she tried to burn bridges with years ago>becomes the face of a cancerous whore company
Wow, the vshojo contract is DOG SHIT.>>48477202>>48477202>>48477202
>>48470279Very epic
>>48471858>depressed SEAsagiinstaclose tab
>>48477235Michelangela di Gatta isn't part of VShojo and doesn't have any established relationship with Nyanners.
>>48469325It not semantics dumbas are you retarded??? She didn't sign the contract the Company Offer HER and she didn't took it she wasn't fired she jump the ship like the backstabbing scum she as always been because the shitty company is not useful anymore.
>>48471858>Shilling this trannyDidn't he kill himself after being outed as a massive doxnigger? I hope so
>>48476809You seem like probably the smartest person who replied to me, but you're still a retard. Congrats.
I’m excited for the Divegrass vtl5 now!!!
>>48477202>based black guy>evanit0wew boy, get ready for TITANIC levels of disappointment, if you believe this
>>48468280it would be worth it just for the meltdowns here
>>48477425>the menhera of menheras doesnt have deep intel of her corpo>friends with kson amd does t have deel intelyou underestimate her sheer schizo power. she knew about nyanners leaving as probably the 4th person by virtue of dramastalking the management discord to wich she got acess by means unknown to anyone. she is a spectre haunting their intranet
>>48477554DO NOT WIN THE VTL5
>>48470660>>48470438>>48470765no. otk still exists and operates separately from mythic. The way I understand it is that otk is akin to a sports team while mythic is like a group that represents individual players in terms of getting sponsorships. A sponsor might want to sponsor a whole team (otk), or alternatively they might want to sponsor individual talent. The difference might be nike shooting a commercial with michael jordan, organized/secured by a mythic-like company, vs nike giving the entire sports team (chicaco bulls, jordan played for) shoes to rep the brand. i know its unlikely anyone knows shit about sports here but I think anyone could understand the difference I'm pointing out. OTK is just a conglomerate "talent" or brand. It just so happens that mythic is owned by the OTK owners, who also happen to be the "talent"/players. Though I also think only a small portion of OTK even has a stake/ownership in mythic.
>>48471385His streams are always either comfy or high energy and wacky fuck you nigger boy
>>48477822I meant his Twitter post faggot, and I don't think there's anything wrong with male Vtubers as long as they're funny
>>48477811I just dont belive they are getting any kind of good sponsorship outside some crypto or shitty gacha games.
>>48470999Naaah fuck Niji I hope they're next and their faggot talents too.
>>48471436>>48471501These guys do not understand women
ABSOLUTE KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>48477609Stop shilling your dead splitThat fag is a nux fanboy everything he claims is invalid
>>48475516Hey, that's my wife you're talking about.
>>48477303kek vshills in full damage control mode in the thread
Pomf pomf kimochi,Vshojo's just not for me
>>48470162wrong pink woman retard
>>48475688Is this political?
>>48472547SHE LITERALLY just said >"If a company offers me a better contract, hell yea I'm leaving Vshojo" RUMAAAOO jesus christ no fucking respect at all fucking yikes.
>not a sticky anymoreSEX CAT DESERVES BETTER
>>48471288You're dumber than the average simp aren't you. If you really want to try to make your argument shit like this, you need to pick your target better. Not only am I the kind of person to laugh at your immaturity but I actually did work for a large corporation. You are just a seething little brat who doesn't know how the world works and have yet to provide any proof to the contrary. Because big surprise I'm right and your reasonings are just bullshit that show how ignorant you are. Get a life or lose the worthless one you have right now shitty brat. I hope you and your family gets fucked by faggots like you want but that you die from it too.
>>48478340She's just setting up conditions she can pretend are fulfilled if she ever decides to bail and join someone else.>uhh actually they are paying me more, no I'm not telling how much
Toasting in epic bread
>>48474762founder member but not one of the owners like melody
>>48471288What no bitchy retort this time? Finally accepted your place bent over with dicks up your ass instead of on the internet saying bullshit?Thanks for definitively proving me right. Maybe a simp slightly less braindead than you will see how fucking retarded you are and cure themselves of their own autism or kill themselves and make the world a better place. Or maybe it's just past your bedtime.
>>48478915skill issue
>>48468942>banks crashing>crypto crashing>news collapsing>silicon valley in the dumpsters>resignations from top positions everywhere>ID2020 and forced vaccinations are failing since those same companies are also getting bankruptThe world is changing, go look at the news. There are powerful forces at play removing the evil elites one by one.This is my rrat and I will forever stand by it.
Is the vshojo general going to die now?
>>48478915Stop samefagging and take your fucking sleeping meds Kson.get over it
>>48459186YOOOOOOOO LEST GOOOOOOO
>Against Corpo culture is a Kson now
Mouse leaving would make sense if contract fucked her moneywise, she needs all the money she can get to left behind after she passes, also medical expenses yeah
>>48479541Mouse is clearly leaving> https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse/video/1807659187?t=27m03s
>>48463807nta, yeah she should stop trying to pretend being a v-tuber at this point and accept she's irrelevant.
>>48476137>they idolized a literal gangsterIts worse than that. They idolized a literal gay ballet dancer who pretended and acted as a gangster so much it basically became his actual personality.
>>48468168i hope Yagoo intentionally spite both of themby re-debuting Aloe as suprise announcementat the end of gen 5 concert lol.(not gonna happen, but imagine. haha)