/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040
WATAMAGE IS REAL
THE /vt/ LEAGUE CURSE IS REAL

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Press F to pay respects
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040

>>48459556
No

Reminder that vshoujo dying is a good thing, their thread is one of biggest concentrations of cancer on this site all western chuuba generals are in general tho
Nazuna was next right?

>>48459556
S to spit on it

>>48459541
>>48459556
tumbling down down down
does anyone have that pic of the vshojo girls with and without a twitter checkmark

>>48459556
The funniest shit is that vshojo basically showed their hand when they didn't give them the twitter icon.

>>48459556
N

>>48459541
>>48459556
>>48459258
TOPKEK
IT'S ALL CRUMBLING DOWN

>>48459556
>>48459541
There's also a non zero chance that Ironmouse goes too because she's still in negotiations

>>48459556
>all the girls that got more popular streamer bf leave
really makes me go "hmmmmmmmmm"

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>50,435: Salome (Nijisanji)
>49,361: Pekora (Hololive)
>40,834: Miko (Hololive)
>37,857: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>37,611: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>32,496: Iroha (Hololive)
>32,249: Okayu (Hololive)
>29,327: Hololive (Hololive)
>27,367: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,180: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,087: Korone (Hololive)
>23,304: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,137: Selen (Nijisanji)
>16,605: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>16,440: Hana (Nijisanji)
>16,432: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,289: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,861: Flare (Hololive)
>15,704: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>15,651: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>14,947: Haneru (774 inc)
>13,991: Lui (Hololive)
>13,436: Noel (Hololive)
>13,224: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,910: Nui (Nijisanji)
>12,750: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,714: Uto (Indie)
>12,680: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,417: Kou (Nijisanji)
>12,132: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,418: Chiroru (Indie)
>10,352: Towa (Hololive)
>10,272: Fubuki (Hololive)

>>48459556
LAMO everyone called this shit after Vei left
RIP IN PISS

>>48459618
So which group is the Vshoujo "fans" gonna move to next?

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
Frankie

>>48459475
hisui my beloved

>>48459556
AIIIEEE LEAVE THE BOAT

Zen is next btw. the rrats were Vei, Silver, Nyan, and Zen.

That's what real freedom looks like. They will never be slaves!

>>48459690
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft
9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw
11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha
13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live
14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,037 - Apex VSaikyo 5 tournament
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 244,788 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament
17) Miko (Hololive) - 55,500 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Nene & Mel
18) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 122,091 - Host outfit 3D reveal
19) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 40,447 - Rust
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,780 - Granblue Fantasy collab
21) Marine (Hololive) - 96,062 - Pro seiyuu auditions w/Miko, Polka & Koyori
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 104,665 - 3D birthday variety show
23) Miko (Hololive) - 51,761 - Soulcalibur 6
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab
26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 73,952 - Mario tournament draw
28) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,537 - UFO noodles shilling
29) Iroha (Hololive) - 55,680 - holoX Minecraft Cops and Robbers
30) Salome (Nijisanji) - 50,435 - Pokemon Tournament

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
3x: Neo Porte
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
8x: Pekora
4x: Miko
3x: Hal
2x: Iroha, Salome, Toya
1x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Kanata, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
89x: Hololive
22x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
10x: Marine
8x: Miko
6x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Koyori, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>48459556
OFFICIAL LAUGH AT VSHOJO ANCHOR

>>48459556
Kek even if they get akari and pikamee and uto, i don't think they can be saved. they're done for

At this point idol or phase may actually end up being the third biggest vtuber company in the west.

>>48459556

>>48459556
VSHOJOJP IS NEXT

>>48459556
So this is what Kson meant? Vtuber is dying?

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>4/30 DAILY TALLY
19,137: Selen (Nijisanji)
8,301: Baelz (Hololive)
8,120: Amelia (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered
4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream
5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft
6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke
7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)
8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament
9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal
10) Kiara (Hololive) - 15,972 - Easter Collab
11) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,199 - Minecraft
12) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,504 - Minecraft
13) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,986 - CouncilRyS RPG
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 11,753 - 2.0 Reveal
15) Gura (Hololive) - 19,449 - Choo Choo Charles
16) Baelz (Hololive) - 27,878 - Outfit Reveal
17) Gura (Hololive) - 17,691 - Choo Choo Charles
18) Gura (Hololive) - 16,667 - Baldi's Basics
19) Kiara (Hololive) - 7,271 - Minecraft
20) Ina (Hololive) - 18,401 - Karaoke/Announcement
21) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 12,392 - Touchstarved (w/ Vox, Ike, Sonny, Doppio)
22) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 88,255 - Outfit Reveal
23) Ina (Hololive) - 28,128 - Outfit Reveal
24) Mori (Hololive) - 8,583 - Minecraft (w/ Kobo)
25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,650 - Birthday Stream
26) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,301 - Unarchived Karaoke
27) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,928 - ASMR
28) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,380 - Minecraft
29) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 8,165 - NijiEN x NijiJP Among Us
30) Selen (Nijisanji) - 19,137 - Outfit Reveal

>PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Kronii
3x: Baelz, Gura, Mori, Fauna
2x: Mumei, Kiara, Ina, Mysta, Selen
1x: Sonny, Fulgur, Vox, IRyS

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
36p: Fauna
26p: Mori
25p: Kronii
24p: Ina, Baelz
20p: Mumei
17p: Kiara
15p: Gura
13p: Mysta, Selen
12p: Luca, IRyS
11p: Vox
8p: Sonny
5p: Fulgur
3p: Kotoka
2p: Amelia
1p: Axel, Elira, Ike, Shu

Like rrats fleeing a sinking ship.

>This is hololive's fault somehow
You know the drill. Rrat away

Don't worry guys, ironmouse can carry all the company
What the fuck were they thinking in hiring vtubers to shill a backpack camera?

>>48459556
S

>>48459905
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
84x: Hololive
34x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
12x: Mori
9x: Baelz, Gura, IRyS, Fauna
8x: Mumei, Ina
7x: Amelia, Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara, Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
112p: Fauna
83p: Mori, Ina
79p: Baelz
78p: Mumei
77p: IRyS
64p: Vox
55p: Amelia
53p: Mysta
48p: Kiara
47p: Kronii
45p: Gura
38p: Luca
31p: Selen
18p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>48459556
https://twitter.com/LordAethelstan/status/1652811494323781632

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o
Is she next

Nyanners and Veibae leaving is the equivalent of Mori and Ina fucking off

Vshojo is DONE

>>48459686
Nyanners was more popular than her bf though.

>>48459556
So it's just Froot, Kson, Mike and Melody now?

>>48459541
NO WAY

>>48460063
Haruka Karibu, Zentreya, and the blonde bitch's name I keep forgetting

>>48460031
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT'S HAPPENING

>>48459556
I don't get it, Kson said there are no cons about joining vshojo
So why are the girls leaving?

>>48459905
>APRIL EN SILVERS PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Fauna
4x: Luca, Ina
2x: Mumei, Vox, Kiara, Mori, IRyS, Baelz
1x: Sonny, Kotoka, Mysta, Kronii

>APRIL EN BRONZES PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mori
4x: Mumei
3x: Baelz, Selen, Fauna
2x: Kronii, Ina, Amelia
1x: Kiara, Axel, Elira, IRyS, Ike, Shu

>>48460017
>2023 EN SILVERS PER COMPANY
77x: Hololive
37x: Nijisanji
6x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
19x: Fauna
12x: Ina
10x: Luca, Mumei
9x: IRyS, Baelz
7x: Mysta, Vox
6x: Kiara
5x: Amelia, Mori
3x: Uki, Axel
2x: Selen, Sonny, Kronii
1x: Ike, Hakka, Enna, Millie, Magni, Vesper, Finana, Fulgur, Kotoka

>2023 EN BRONZES PER COMPANY
60x: Hololive
41x: Nijisanji
7x: Holostars
1x: Phase Connect
>NOTE: There were 10 days this year where nobody earned a bronze

>PER STREAMER
10x: Fauna
8x: Vox, Mumei, Mori
7x: Mysta, Baelz, Ina
6x: Kronii
5x: Kiara, IRyS, Selen, Amelia
3x: Luca, Shu
2x: Regis, Uki, Axel, Elira, Ike
1x: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Enna, Vesper, Millie, Maria, Pippa, Rosemi, Pomu, Nina, Ren, Fulgur

I'm so glad Watame would never touch my oshi.

>>48459556
>>48459627
S

is this what they meant when they talk about freedom?
freedom from their contracts?

>>48460031
is she gonna keep her model?

So Suisei will be next to graduate

>>48459556
BREAKING FREE FROM SLAVERY
>>48459618
mythic, livestreamfails

>>48460114
>Zentreya
I thought xhe left or quietly retired a while back.

>>48458679
All of myth but Ame used all their emote slots. You lose the slots a little after you fall below the members limits if you don’t use them. Haachama briefly fell to or below 4k but she currently has max so it tells you nothing. Ina and Gura polls/likes and they’re both asking youtube for more slots so they are at least 2k above 5k. If Kiara and mori don’t have plans to ask for more they could be less than 5k

>>48459556
so this is what kson meant but she confused the times
It was just 5 weeks

>>48459693
>LAMO everyone called this shit after Vei left
Veibae left vshojo? When did that happen?

>>48460024
All NDA crap, same shit as Silver and Vae. BUT TOTALLY NOT A CORPO RIGHT??? Holy Kek!

What is "talent freedom" in your language?

>>48460243
It was rumored to be one of the people leaving iirc, the others were right so I expect an announcement about Zen soon.

>>48459556
Someone must have lied to kson or something because half of the talents preaching talent freedom left. Hopefully this snaps her back to reality and she comes back to hololive after she learned the harshness of the outside world. At this point I legit feel bad for her for falling for their lies.

>>48459556
CRASH AND BURRRNNNNNNN

>be haruka
>join vshojo after 1.5 year of auditions
>2 of the big 3 leave + a midcarder

>nyanners graduates now
Who the fuck shitposted with Suisei graduation this time?

>>48460136
females don't know how to sell their own merch, everything was made by vshojo so they don't get money, that's their con and that's not a con for kson because she already sold her own merch

>>48459556
The siege is closing on Iron Leech.

>Vshojo melting
Could it be? Could the cancer finally be breaking down? Could the western vtuber sphere stop being corrupted by those whores and start attracting actual talent instead of dick sucking asmr?

>>48460297
A few days ago. Silvervale left at the same time.

>>48459556
joewari da

>>48459556
S to SPIT

you rike?

>>48459992
lel their intern/jannie is working overtime tonight

>>48459684
Not really, she's been replying to the announcements.

>>48459541
OH NO NONONO Vshitters?
its joever

>>48459556
Kek, these troons

>>48460398
Watamage, I kneel

Is she gonna join the new talent freedom™ agency?

>>48460321
Hey, more of the vshojo box for her!
Dedicated vshojo watchers will now watch the other vshojos...right?

IT FEELS SO FUCKING GOOD TO BE A HOLOCHAD

>>48460301
>NDA crap
what?

>>48460121
Ignore that slavery is a problem

>>48460455
watson pfp lmao

Now you remembet vsj using bots to manipulate public opinion on YouTube comments

>>48459684
isn't she literally one of their founders? how do you leave your own company? sell your stake?

>VSHOJO girl gets BF
>Graduates
AHHHHHH WE NEED TO BE STRICTER ON THE HOLOGIRLS HOLOBROS!!!!!!!!!! We cant let the same shit happen to our girls....................

RIP Nyanners

>>48459627
S

>>48459475
>>48459541
Should use a Watame OP every time a graduation is announced

>>48460517
>how do you leave your own company?
are you serious?

>Vwhores get boyfriends
>boyfriends go "hey you realize your contract is dogshit right? i mean this is streaming 101 levels of bad"
>they leave
Vtubers are improved by having men in their lives

>>48460346
no because all of them still will exist as indies

WHERE DID THE $11 MILLION GO??? HOW MUCH DID GUNRUN SPEND ON THE BACKPACKS AND KSON??????

Fun fact: Ironmouse is still in contract negotiations

>Vshojotranny keep getting karma.
>Hololive win by doing nothing.

>>48459541
>>48459556
this happens because people keep shitposting with suisei graduation. it really sets watamage off.

>>48460586
>holoens best

>>48460565
not really

>>48460464
And this is why you want to own the character IP of a talent as a company. If you don't they're just gonna get poached with money like a sports player.

>>48459779
Wasn't someone predicting 4 graduations, 2 expected and 2 that weren't? One that told us to enjoy HoloFes?

>>48460549
next thread should be watamage and /vsj/ winning the vt league

What’s the over under on kson not renewing next month? She will be getting slammed if she doesn’t renew

so... this confirms pikamee is in EN3?
she wouldn't join vshojo when all her pals are leaving right?

>>48460398
Fuck you. My oshi is irys btw.

>>48459556
My Gura collab...

Soooooo, what's Kekson's bad take(cope) on this now?

>>48460398
I am begging you, oh great Watamage, the mouse.
Take out the mouse once and for all.

>>48460586
now they will go back to be irrelevant alone
amazing move.

WELLLLLLLLLLL NUMBERFAGSSSSSS!?!?!?!
>WHO IS THE SCHIZO NOW?!?!
KNEEL!

Also
>Nazuna now got her checkmark
>Hajime still didn't

>>48460695
>pals
only kson is the closest one to her iirc

How much do you all want to bet on Ironmouse leaving Vshoujo and joining the Trash Tate crew by the end of the year

>>48460517
It's gunrun and Ironmouse's. They're just the starti members

Kson next probably, wasn't she already win the hostess contests for Yakuza game?

>>48460731
i mean is hajime still alive?

>>48460628
I don't see a universe where she won't get everything she wants. I mean this is like if most of HoloEN quit but Gura was left. Damn straight they're giving her whatever the fuck she wants, as long as she's around the ship isn't officially scuttled

>>48460719
>go back to be irrelevant alone
Wut? VShojo made them relevant somehow?

If so, how so and in which way Mythic (for instance) couldn't just continue doing so?

>>48460819
Melody is one of co-founder unless am wrong.

PCG are quite the grudge posters >>48459485

I imagine Vshojo might just disband at this point. Weird though since I recall there was talks of new JP members in the pipeline

>>48460819
>It's gunrun and Ironmouse's.
Nope, Melody instead of the mouse.

>>48460031
>got checkmark now
Damn, is she actually going full Nazuna instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o

>>48460926
pcg is a bunch of former holofags from my short time squatting in the past couple weeks.

GunRun going to bail out those sweet backpacks.

>>48460866
>be 2view
>join vshojo
>magically grow to 4view
>leave vshojo
>keep the numbas
they are smart

>>48460791
She needs to be physically there no exceptions or this will cause a stink on TT fans and Iron Liar's fanbase

>>48459690
>19,137: Selen (Nijisanji)
>16,440: Hana (Nijisanji)
selen was doing new costume reveal right?
how the fuck did hana lost to that.
yes i just woke up from coma stfu.

Someone please post kson pro and con about joining vsj

>>48461029
>keep the numbers
i dont think that is going to happen anymore.

>>48461029
they were already established before joining

>>48460926
What are they even grudgeposting about? What's the vshojo/phase connect link? They act like they're each other's Niji/Holo lmao

>>48460960
If she is then she's even more retarded than I thought

>>48458906
If I'm looking for the data points in the graph is it in the html?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o

>>48461104
nijiid is fucking dead and her 3d reveal was delayed until no one cared anymore.

so the con kson obviously missed was the bad contracts?

>>48459556
BEWARE OF THE SUPREME MAGE

>>48461138
Phase got their first termination 6 days ago, VSJ had their first talents leave VSJ 4 days ago. They were shitposted quite a bit during that 2 days

>>48461138
More like they want to dethrone Vshojo, they'll get all the drama, fame and numbers, they want that piece of pie.

>>48460932
>whore yourself out and orbit/emulate vshojo so you can have a chance of joining their circle
>it fucking implodes
this must be happening to some indie lmfao

>>48461138
Remember zero graduations? vsh+ laughed at them for this and they took it personally.

>>48461138
Vshojo fags spammed them with the zero graduations zero terminations meme when yuri got terminated.

>>48461029
That can only possibly apply to Vei because Nyanners was a solid 4 views for all of the second half of 2020 way before VShojo existed.
If much, the debut of Myth and the ensuing "MythMania" inclined her from 2k to above 4k and she remained at that mark even in the month after joining VShojo.

>>48457189
Like I said: Way less drama.

>>48461146
WATAMAGE I KNEEL. NO MORE. PLEASE I BEG OF YOU. SPARE THESE HEATHEN. THEY KNEW NOT OF THE CONSEQUENCES THAT WOULD BE CAST DOWN UPON THEM FOR BESMIRCHING THE HOLOLIVE NAME. AIEEEEEE

11 million dollars btw

Holochads how are we feeling?

>>48461106
>cons
>NONE

>>48459556
>do you like it anon?

>Hololive win by doing nothing.
The usual.

>>48460791
No chance, Vshojo would do anything she wants to keep her. Losing her too would be a death sentence.

>>48460916
>>48460955
I got corrected

>>48461106
someone should edit it to "pros and cons about leaving vsj"

>>48461351
Really missing Fauna.

>>48461351
Sipping on the sweet taste of victory by doing nothing. Mmmm

>>48460932
It will probably just keep limping along until eventually dying. Vei and Nyanners were their #2 and #3 but they weren't as "rah rah unity" like Iron Mouse is. So long as IM is there they'll probably still exist

>>48461351
Waiting

Froot is probably next, am not sure that /k/ menhera going to keep up, her numbers already decline, got dunked on twitter from left to right.

>>48460832
hajime was a fucking joke

>EN vtubing exploding
>setting the stage for a reset and return to roots
>perfect for EN3
it's not fair, reality keeps lining up free shots for Yagoo

What was Kson vtubing rant about again? Something about unicorns in Japan and western vtubing is dying because of that?

be honest, can vshojo recover from this?

*REMINDER*
>NO CONS

>>48459992
Mori poisoned the pure VShojo members minds with idol culture or something

>>48461150
>she's even more retarded than I thought
she was fired from a dream job by doing exactly the opposite they told her

>>48461000
That’s majority of small corpos. There’s a pretty sizable amount of gura fans watching everyone but hololive girls. The most concentrated still seems to be fauna

>>48461549
Nah, she benefits the most under Iron whores umbrella, without it, she'll be floundering like Saruei

>>48461650
It meant no conventions

>>48461656
That doesn't even make sense, how Fauna still pull decent CCV then?

>>48461154
>If I'm looking for the data points in the graph is it in the html?
Nope, but you can get them with a single call (per hour) for all of the streams as well.
The URL for the datapoints is
https://vrabi.net/api/progress2?date=2023-05-01_08 (for instance, for the 8AM slot of that date).

Now, that's as far as I'm willing to take you, parsing the response will be left as an exercise to the reader because if the site owner coded it that way it might be because he didn't want people to easily figure it out.
Happy reverse engineering! Took me 4 hours to figure out and another 4 to fix a bug in my code, it's not hard

>>48461384
>turned Watame's own genmate against Hololive
what were they thinking angering the mage this brazenly?

>>48460114
Hajime Hime but she literally applied as a joke.

>>48461634
As a multi talent agency no. They're just ironmouse's private crew now.

>>48461549
>dunked on twitter
no way

>>48460313
Her pride will never allow her to come back. Not after all the shittalking she did.

Sticky is up

>>48460121
No cons to leaving either

>>48461599
Now that you mention it, she probably already knew this was going to happen when she said that

>>48461599
Yep. The core of that is, in a paraphrase
>the "western weeb" audience values hard working drama free professional vtubers over "authentic" ones
>if they continue doing so, vtubing will no longer be viable to anyone but this type of corporate vtuber in 5 years

REPENT
We are in a new age.
only by becoming a holoCHAD can you hope to reach salvation. save yourselves, leave your oshis behind and step into the HOLO ARK, lest you seek to drown in a never ending ocean of yabs along with your oshi. escape the GRIMMACE of small corpos and become a HoloCHAD today!

>>48459992
Mori told cconnor and he told to the other's girl's boyfriends about how good holo contracts were and this casued the VS girls to demand more which gunrun canoot give since he lost all his money in sillicon valley bank.
so is mori's fault again

>>48460121
the writing was on the wall when one of them joined that other agency

Come back home coco to hololive. It's never to late to become a idol again. Just because you walked the wrong path once does not mean you be lost forever.

>>48460264
Mori recently said her members was at an all time high

>>48461652
Man that would actually make me feel bad for her. At first everyone thought kson threw herself on a grenade for nazuna then you got her 1 hour shill of no cons. But after all of this she decides to stick with only vshojo it would mean kson is manipulating her and that’s a problem.

>>48460121
Yes but there's also no cons for leaving, keksonchama forgot to write that.

>>48460313
GunRun probably rolled the red carpet for her so it may not be a lie that there are NO CONS for her. And just her specifically.

>>48461599
ranted about the audience having standards, basically

>>48461599
>>48461885
This probably was what sparked her rant, but it also makes 0 sense if so because she spent so much time talking about unicorns and that does not apply to Nyanners and Veibae lol
hell she literally said in that speech that she doesn't think you can have a boyfriend and fully dedicate yourself to vtubing lmao

>>48461885
>Don't be political, vtweeter dramafags, and whores on stream please
>Oh my fucking god stop you're smothering me! Help me talent freedom!
I hope western vtubers die. They were never worth anything alive.

>>48461351
>feeling good nenechi

Muh corpo

>>48461351
Don't get too cocky...Hachaama surprise still looming.

i only care about Miguel gatto and her mental health.
she a bitch for leaking shit, but she doesn't deserve stress.

>>48462053
>e if so because she spent so much time talking about unicorns and that does not apply to Nyanners
Yes it does. That chart is not up to date, she reclined more in March and kept at the low point in April as well

Miko knocking on the door of 30k again after a Mio funnel

where did the $11M go vshojobros

>>48461351
i miss chinese nene...

>>48461138
ever since Lumi got her new Vei model phasefags constantly shilled their streamers in vshojo general

>>48459556
S. GET FUCKED, VWHOREJO SUBHUMANS, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR SPAMMING GURA BAIT RUMAO

how the fuck do you just lose 3 of your talents in less than a week, there must be some skeletons in someone's closet somewhere

>Hololive imploding
>Vshojo imploding
>Phase Connect imploding
>Kawaii imploding
>EIEN(?) imploding
>NIJISANJI THRIVING

Nijichads, how are we feeling?

>>48462372
Why would she even care about people she has very little to do with?

So which western Vtuber corpo is taking after Vshojo now as the biggest EN Vtuber corpo?

>>48461714
I think you misunderstood I meant the biggest concentration of gura watchers flock to fauna. Overall the other 10k or so is spread between the entire western vtuber community with the rest seemingly not watching vtubers at all.

>>48462475
definitely contract changes

Name an EN oshi for the following 3 people.

>Person A: very into cumflation doujins
>Person B: A genuine kombucha snob
>Person C: A once-married man whose wife and child died in a tragic car accident

>>48462488

>>48462475
skeleton is called "shitty contract"

Behold, the Vshojo killer.

>>48462491
Pippa's or Nene's.

>>48462053
other than not streaming regularly (going missing for more than weeks/doing alt streams), nyan's lost something like a third of her average viewers after the boyfriend reveal over the past year

VSHOJO IS NOT CORP-

>>48462592
go back

>>48462488
Zaion and Gundou doko nijibro

>>48459556
S to spit

>>48461958
>Come back
>after her meltdown where she shittalked Hololive
of course

hahahahahah

>>48462488
Your company tourneys, debuts and 3ds are doing shit Nijinigs, you're the one who's imploding

I wonder is quitting vshojo will affect their viewership
Does vshojo give free views and subs just by being in it like Hololive does?

huehuehue

>>48462577
>A genuine kombucha snob
WELL....

>>48461773
A combined force of /here/ and twitterfags digging up her /k/ persona and several edgy comments she posted, stuffs was mild, only start to heat up after Hogwarts drama.

>>48462242
I never understand how NA basically lives and thrives under many megacorpo and there are people thinking they can "muh corpo"

>>48462475
What skeletons didn’t you hear from kson and the vtweeters this is natural and another pro of vshojo

>>48462737
This is fake no way this bitch tweeted that

>>48461795
Let's change the question then:
Do you believe the box, in it's almost near infinite benevolence, would welcome her back?
For me, yes. But it's not happening

>>48462737
That can't be real.

I KNEEEL ROWLING SAMA

>>48462737
>>48462785
Imagine giving up hololive for this

>>48462706
>cutting off the liabilites is a bad thing now
rumao

>>48462741
and other tales holoniggers like to tell

>>48462737
>Begging for free agents to come to Vshojo
What is this? Lakers?

>>48462820
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652818982821568512

>>48462737
>with better contracts
good i love google translate.

>>48462820
>>48462848
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652818982821568512
It's fucking real

>>48462593
>>48462574
sure, but it's not smart to just let them go like that, is it? or was the contract just THAT shit from the start? wouldn't mouse/zen/froot also be on the same terms?

>>48462488
still sub 40k sub

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AOl3CsVPO1o
>Silver and Vei
>Pinkcat
This is probably connected

>>48461913
This rrat got legs

>>48462737
>>48462785
>ISREAL
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN VSJ

>>48462737
She’s been joking about this a lot for someone that said there’s no cons and she wants JP corporations model themselves after this

>>48462899
>>48462877
That's not a great look.

>>48462491
probably idol, at least they're keeping their numbers in the green with all their shameless "donothons" every month
vshojo's business model is beyond garbage and I don't even know how they managed to get so much funding in the first place

>>48462785
>>48462737
Holy hell its fucking over for vshojo

>>48462890
Even DeepL got it confused so she better clarify

>>48462623
Would you still tap this hag?

>>48461913

>>48462737
imagine ever trusting kson on anything ever again lmao

>>48462634
>>48462381
nyanners is unicorn's nightmare, she went for all the phases of kronii but much worse, and she still has some unicorns believing that she will leave aethel

>>48462737
>>48462785
wait, are they that clueless about contracts?

>>48462737
Holy fuck, this is just pathetic.

>>48462623
I KNEEL.

>>48462824
>would welcome her back
If the holo girls would, the box would in 35 milliseconds.
All it would take is one minecraft stream
>welcome back Coco
similar to the one Korone threw when Miko returned.
Some fireworks, building together a big toilet to serve as the pool in front of her future house had it's the
>return of the prodigal son
and the whole audience would clap, a bald eagle would land in her shoulder and Taiwan would invade the mainland and take back full control.
>then she would wake up, still on VShojo

That final jest aside, it would depend on the Holo girls.

>>48462920
I checked their thread. Most of them used to think she is releasing merch and using a clickbait thumbnail ot get more viewers.
After what just happened, many think she might be leaving Vshojo which seems a real possibility but it wouldn't make any sense for her to announce it as Miguel.
Last but not least they have a dedicated 5ch schizo saying she's announcing her marriage

>>48463018
lolwhat

>>48463033
AVENGERS OF VTUBING BABY

>>48462904
If you're losing literally everyone wouldn't it be better to revise the contract? Giving them almost everything is better than dying.

>>48462792
ahh, the rhodesia larping

>>48462737
>>48462785

>>48462488
Alternative dimension-chama?

>>48462737
At least we still have our talent freedom right Vshobros?

Talent freedom doko?

> No EN3
> NijiEN turning into NijiSEA
> VShoujo Melting
> Small corpos imploding
Is this the end of EN vtubers ?

>>48462737
>>48462785
KEK
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>48463193
Phase is thriving bro

>>48462623
BASED TERFCHADS!!!

>>48463101
That's what I'm thinking about as well. How the fuck do you sell yourself as a "talent first" group and have shit contracts all-around so that you lose 3 of them in less than a week?

>>48462320
They've paraded her in
>HoloGra
>Some dumb main channel skit
>HoloFes4
And the upcoming hololive city includes her as well. She's definitely still alive. unless you believe Cover is a black company

>>48462623
Thanks for your service, based hag.

>>48462737
ohhhhhhhh she's actually mad lmao

>>48463193
nijiEN may have turned to NijiSEA but is thriving nonetheless

>>48463224
t.

>>48461885
If people want authentic streamers, they wouldn't opted to watch a person behind a virtual avatar. VTubers would end up competing with huge western fleshstreamers if they want to do 'authentic' content.
And considering that VTubing gains an audience because it gives alternative to the prevalent 'authentic' fleshstreamers, it's only natural that the existing audience aren't that interested on that kind of content and rather have the alternative instead

>>48463018
>and she still has some unico-
No she doesn't. You are likely conflating "gachikoi" with "unicorn".

Gachis are the ones with "true love" for the streamer, and willing to forgive transgressions like these if they return to their former selves.
Unicorns are defined by a hard "no male collabs or publicly in your life" stance. Any of those would by definition leave her with the reveal because if they didn't, they weren't unicorns in the first place.

Then there are just people that like what they liked in the streamer in the first place, and dislike the change in direction and stop watching the changed chuuba.
That's the great majority of the "attrition" a chuuba has when revealing any abrupt change in content style

>Fauna delays her stream
>Vshojo graduation announcement

The fucking state of "vshojofags"

>y-you guys never cared about vshojo right?
>>48462937
>yea!
>>48462995
>>48463030
>>48463092
>>48463125
>>48463134
>>48463228
>>48463250

>>48462804
I’ll explain the delusions of those retards. Normal people want google amazon walmart disney to have less power break up monopolies so smaller businesses don’t collapse. Retards have taken that as all businesses should fall, while not understanding that if 0 businesses existed everything would fall apart including the idea of indie streamers because they are paid by businesses. Technically by their logic indies are worse than those working for 1 businesses because they’re beholden to all of them.

>>48463018
no fucking way
reminder that person left her fucking cats when she got dicked down. Same cats she brought on stream a couple of times and meant everything to her

>>48463297
no1 cared about Yuri its about as inconsequential as Roboco leaving, sure it sucks but who cares.

>>48463378
I can't believe Fauna killed Nyanners.
She wasn't even a green woman...

Every rants kson had made, either backfired or they deflects somewhere else, accidentally hit to other corpos.

>>48463348
What about people who watch vtubers that collab with male and still seethe about it anyway, or those that do but only freak out when they collab with specific males or when they act a certain way with males?

>All it took for Vshojo to go down is Froot seething about a little wizard game that isn't even good
Sad

>>48462320
>>48463269
Aqua mentioned meeting her. Maybe she just needs to get her grades up.

>>48463334
>If people want authentic streamers, they wouldn't opted to watch a person behind a virtual avatar.
The fact you have to spell this out, and then follow up with an even more in depth explanation is a demerit for anyone sharing the same opinion as kson.

Isn't that obvious?
>I want my anime catgirl to be a real person with real life problems and real life issues on stream, in a very predominant way
said no one ever

>>48462824
The talent and fans would welcome her back with open arms; they never wanted her to leave in the first place. She just won't because crawling back makes her look like a failure. She'll probably stick with Vshojo and being the process of turning the company from an EN focused one to a JP focused one that's basically a corpo retirement home.

>>48463462
Those are called schizos

When is Nazuna's contract up?

>>48462623
HAAAAAGS I LOVE HAGS!!!!!

>>48459541
>>48459556
*spits*

>>48463390
>Maximum Cope: Engaged

>>48463224
*Pippa is thriving
And she would thrive even further if it weren't for Fishcuck kneeling to the zhangs. Imagine forcing your most popular vtuber to play Mahjong on stream

>>48463552
Should be coming up.

>>48460549
>>48460688
Would you kindly not associate my oshi to that please?
Watame wouldn't like that.
Thank you

>>48460455
>Nyanners tried so hard to not be the 4chan girl
>The retards she tried to pander to still think of her as one
My sides.

>>48463390
sour grapes lmfao
those same trannies were cheering on silver getting harassed

>>48463348
>kanata's oshi ends up marrying
>"Look, she's a unicorn like us!"
holy fucking retard kys how many times will you change unicorn's description?

>>48463655
stream was alright until the no rage batsus kicked in forcing girls to basically gag themselves more than they already had to due to sponsorship obligations.

>>48462737
this is hilarious but a lot of people are saying google translate/deepL shat the bed, but if that's so then what does it actually say?

What is his secret?

>>48463718
Kanata is unicorn though

>>48463729
Like the last one, she basically complimenting how loose it is at vshojo that you can come and go as you please, but the translator takes it like she’s lookin to bounce

>>48463462
It's the third type I mentioned. People like what they like and dislike what they dislike.
If a streamer the audiences likes starts acting differently from what make them like her in the first place, that will cause a change in how the audience perceive her.
If said change is big enough to be considered "out of character", that's the death for a streamer whose sole job is to perform a character.

It doesn't need to be collabs. There is an even bigger "audience killer": choice of content.
Shizuka Rin killed her audience with FF14 spam, even Ayame gets a fraction of her otherwise very faithful audience with Valorant.
All in all it's even stupid to put this in writing but it is
>if you do what your audience likes, they'll stay
>if you do what your audience dislikes, they'll opt out
>if you continuously do what your audience dislikes, they'll leave and won't return

>>48463266
>How the fuck do you sell
People can sell anything they want if they lie.
>have shit contracts all-around so that you lose 3 of them in less than a week?
I think they were banking on the girls being retarded and not double checking things or knowing donations are basically nothing.

>>48463427
please, keep her meds away, gunrun

>>48463427
>Vshojo isn't a corporation

>>48462475
Silver explained it, they all have their contract negotiation around the same time, so basically these 3 all got the new contracts for this year and evidently they weren't good enough kek

>>48463718
Kanata got unironically heart broken when that happened and even took a break from streaming to recover from it.
Did you choose this example badly on purpose to reinforce the point made?

>>48463491
yeah, mentioned that she left a message and doesn't know when haachama will respond

>>48463729
Is google translate/deepL more accurate than chatgpt?

>>48463348
>Kanata is a unicorn
>she doesn't leave gakki until she married despite interaction with males throughout her careers
You're definition is retarded, unicorn prefers no male interactions, if there happened to be one then it's come to their personal degree of tolerance. Even Gabe the local unicorn doesn't mind some level of male interactions.
JP Holocorns in general have decent level of tolerance, unless you're someone like Matsuri you're basically still safe.
Not to be confused with CGCDT fans which is an entirely different thing, particularly because it doesn't have a JP term equivalent.

>>48463496
either way she's sitting on a couple of million $ for a long while at least, if she's not a retard with money

>>48463729
"Agents with better contract conditions than shojo, please contact us anytime" Seems more accurate to me

>>48463390
It's true though. There was only like 3 times that Vshojo actually did anything useful for the girls

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652823117222539265

>Fauna cancels stream
>Vhojo meltdown
this can't be a coincidence right?

my wife is effortlessly carrying the EN scene,the roots keeping it afloat

Kneel now peasants, return to nature

>>48463729
that vshojo should get a better contract

???????????????????

so any vsj going to EN3?

>>48463957
I usually just describe CGDCT as Houbunsha-type content to my japanese online friends, not accurate but they get what I mean.

>>48464058
How hard must it be to carry the entirety of EN vtubing on your back?

>>48463665
oh FUCK, its almost been a year since those two joined?

>>48464058
You have just proven it is indeed hololive's fault.

>>48464056
What did she mean by this

>>48464056
Why's she even writing in Japanese? Like 3 people in Japan care about Nyanners. If you're addressing something of primary interest to English speakers, and you speak English, speak English.

>>48463751
Karma and Japanese conservative business attitude.
The next gen they announce is going to make or break something though, I can feel it.

>>48464109
(You) can save her anon.

>>48464110
they arent graduating you fucking mongoloid, theyre just leaving VSJ brand and going indie or joining mythic.

>>48459556
S
The only way this can get better is if they quit vtubing and become fleshstreamers so we never have to see them on the board again.

Lol green whore is going to not stream today and turn out worse than Kronii who did 4 streams instead of just 3

>>48463957
and kanata still likes gakki as an artist now

>>48463878
>fucking froot got better terms than nyan or vei now
they can't be that dumb

>>48463801
And how is letting 2 of your top 3 talent go is better than revising a contract that is more agreeable to them?

>>48464058
Don't be such a conspiracy theorist, Fauna only goes after the green vtubers and whacks them.

>>48464110
No.

>>48463665
with how dumb she is, I think she already signed a new contract
I think those with Vshojo mark on Twitter already singed the new contract

>>48464170
But that's not Ironlung

>>48463957
Anon, the "mythical" unicorn is a beast that can only be mounted by virgins.
That term is applied only to the most extreme cases, and that's exactly how Kanata behaves, be it through her actions with regards to her own audience or the actions she showed towards her oshi.

There are very very very few unicorns in the Holo fanbase, to the point it is pretty much a strawman.
For the great majority of the audience, it is as you say: they would rather their oshi not to alter her content too much by spamming male collabs (or Niji collabs, for all that matters) but other than that, they'll just skip any stream they dislke.

Gabe is not an unicorn, he's a schizo and a retard. He was literally bankrolling a chuuba making hardcore porn with her bf.
Anyone using "unicorn" as a self identifying label is equally a retard, and no different from, well, a nigger using "nigger" as a self identifying label, as it is just the word people invented to describe the most exaggerated traits of people they dislike and apply to the whole set of people sharing even some similarity with them.

>>48464225
>they're all going indie
I somehow feel bad for /lig/ now, as if discussion over there wasn't a cesspool already

>>48464203
So people won't take advantages of what she saying in english, its easier to confuse them with Japanese.

>>48463018
>she still has some unicorns believing that she will leave aethel
sunken cost fallacy is real

>>48464109
Same that happened with Mori, stream offline, nobody to end it.

>>48464203
so she can blame google translate

>>48464203
>where did go all those $11mill in investment?
now you know

>>48464056
This has-been is barely a 4view that can't even save herself nor her crumbling company but still goes full retard "i will end slavery and change vtubing forever"
She honestly feels like a legit messiah complex case.

>>48464247
Maybe Froot is content with whatever. She was not really a streamer before Vshojo, she gets most of what relevance she has from the label. Silver, Vei, and Nyanners all made it as indies.

>>48463348
>nazi vs fascist
Eh, they are the same

>>48461459

>Vshojo members leaves because of contract problems
>Flashback to Trash taste podcast where Connor who had previously claimed that Hololive members contracts must be crap since they're Japanese idols, retracts that statement after having Mori as a guest and having seen the details of said contract
Hmm...

>>48464203
>esl pls undastando

>>48463101
>>48463266
That’s the dilemma they are talent first. They get to keep the models they paid for and kson said they take no cuts. It sounds good if you’re unaware how to make real money as a streamer. High 3 views aren’t making a living wage solely on members and ad sense. You make less ad sense during different times of the year even if your views are up. It’s the ad reads and cheap to produce merch that turns it into a serious job. What vshojo did was offer them a nice koby beef steak while they got to eat the whole bbq.

What is interesting is if you’re not aware of this you would never question it hence the 3 years. If this was told by their bfs they’re definitely checking their income which is weird for a completely different reason.

>>48464514
Of course, same for "african americans" and "niggers".
If you are using a word to describe people you dislike, might as well go with the most demeaning one.

>>48463283
thriving on what? Drama?

>>48464347
how is /lig/ taking the news?

>>48464477
To be fair, she was basically the big sister and menhera tamer in Hololive. Then as an indie people kept praising her as vtuber jesus and THE LEGENDARY KSON so it probably got to her head.

@OldTakesExposed

Based on Kobo's YouTube channel's statistics, her audience are consisted of 68.9% male and 30.5% female
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfucpU2ZJ4&t=2660
Isn't that on the high side for hololive talents?

>>48464254
It isn't. Whoever is running this clown company has no idea what they're doing.

>>48464341
>people referring to each other as Holo unicorn with no issues
>they're wrong, my definition with impossible standards is right!
It's literally a reversed no true scottsman.

No but really, where did the 11 millions go?

If they stopped being vtubers and become fulltime fleshtubers, would they be off topic?

>>48464638
/lig/ is full of pink cat goslings who left her after bf reveal, they're happy and just shitposting

>>48464715
yeah, it's usually 90/10 split

>>48464715
>Isn't that on the high side for hololive talents?
I can't imagine anyone having a ratio that lopsided except maybe Towa.
All of the girls that described theirs had women on one digit

>>48459541
>>48459556
It's literally over. Might as well just wrap it up.

>>48464715
Pretty high female base, i think Marine have like 26% female base.

>>48464581
I mean, why wouldn't their bfs check their contracts? agencies ripping their people off isn't unheard of

>>48464715
That's very high for females but Kobo is appealing to Indonesian poor people audience with her humor mostly. It's not the traditional vtuber demo.

>>48464715
yeah but also consider pic related

>>48464683
>cons: nothing

>>48464782
>pink cat goslings
>veifags
>filianfags
that place is fucking lost

>>48464768
I think not a single person in this board understood the $11M thing. It's not meant for them to use for talent

>>48464056
What goes through the thick skull of kson? Every defeat suffered by vshitshow is somehow a win for her
>see, we're eating shit. we'd never have been allowed to eat shit by the likes of HOLOLIVE and other SLAVE CORPOS

>>48463665
Do it, Miguel. Nuke that abortion called VShojoJP.

>>48464056
She ditched Coco for this
slight reminder Coco was
>Highest Superchatted Vtuber in her time
>One of highest sold merch as well (correct me on this)
>Has a routine low effort weekly program that could whoop easy 30k depend on the guest

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1652826314439819265

>>48464762
OK anon, you do you. If you insist people should "appropriate" from the labels their worst detractors created to demean them, it won't be me stopping you.
It's not a lot different from promiscuous people calling themselves "queer" (the Q in LGBTQ), they think it's clever and that it identifies them with a group but in reality it just paints
>promiscuous
on them and anyone associating with them.

>>48459541
>>48459556
>But MUH VshojoJp
Kek not happening which is probably for the best dont want some pore jp chuuba get lured with false hopes

>>48464318
QRD of ironmouse did something for vtuber community please

>>48464247
It's not that, it's that, Froot just has way lower standards than Nyanners or vei

>>48464768
Either spend it on advertising, cons, backpacks, signing bonuses for the JP members, or it's still sitting in their pocket basically unused.

>>48464947
Glad she's no longer in hololive

>>48464947
lmao

>>48464947
TOP FUCKING KEK
>that backpedal
J-Just kidding, just kidding!

>>48464980
she had a month long subathon and leeches anitubers I guess

How retarded is she feeling right now?

>>48465034
Seriously just shut up.

Kson is sweating hard right now.

>>48464947
grifter gonna grift

>>48464341
To begin with , unicorn is an insult. And yes its an insult for people who expect no males/virginity from chubas

The concept that unicorns are an ideology of NO MALES EVER AIEEE is stupid. Each person decides on their what the line is for them in male interaction. Some are okay with professional non content creator collabs. Other are okay with big group collabs or units involving men. Most of them draw the line at 1 on 1 collabs with other content creators, especially streams, that shit's just watching 2 people flirt.

>>48465045
like a whore offering herself to the highest bidder