/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4831185
Coco should have just left when got suspended

>>4831185
Hololive CN did nothing wrong, Cover was a black company all along. That is all.

100% fault on Cover for being incompetent and not protecting their talents from the relentless zhang spam.

>>4831254
this

>>4831185
Twitter for not having better tools to moderate spam in Coco's hashtags and replies.
Youtube for not giving a single fuck about the spambots.
Management for being spineless.
>>4831254
Fuck Artia.

>>4831185
Anyone else find it creepy how this ugly jap fuck constantly gets brought up by the girls and even fans got memed into worshipping him or whatever
Does he tell them to do that

Her manager scheduled another collab with Mori and Coco decided to just graduat instead.

>>4831254
I'd agree, but even Hololive CN had issues of its own and Cover is a mess no matter what.

>>4831370
If you know anything about business, Yagoo is only really a spokesperson for the company and doesn't make many internal decisions and instead relies on his many managers and shareholders.

>>4831370
It's not the first or the last time a CEO gets turned into a meme figure

>>4831370
Not really. They just love mentioning him because it's a meme. Coco was literally building a statue of him and spoke fondly of him. But like all companies there's many sides and he's can't control everything.

>>4831380
kek

>>4831185
Always zhangs fault

>>4831370
Yes, he has always sketched me out. Especially after the Mel debacle

> yagoo best girl!
> sucking cover's dick all the time
> being a consolewars fag
> numberfagging
You get what you fucking deserve

>>4831254
Andy is Artia discord member

FUCK YOU

>>4831280
what are they supposed to do

>>4831545
need yagoo in murray's spot

After what just happened with Aqua, Coco made the decision that it was best to leave because she was tired of seeing her friends get hurt. No, Cover did not force her out, no Cover does not hate Coco, no Cover will not try to re-enter China. Even fucking Aloe didn't have any negative feelings towards Cover when she left. This was a decision reached by both companies and besides Kanata is the canary here. If Cover mistreated Coco and forced her out do you think Coco's good friend Kanata would be ok with that? No, she obviously wouldn't.

tldr: vtuber graduations happen all the time and this one is no different. It was a decision reached by both parties and Coco is leaving on good terms.

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR RRATS

>>4831539
Mel debacle? What happened there?

>>4831638
No anon logic doesn't apply to me, I must shitpost
YAGOO raped kanata in front of coco!

>>4831380
KEK. This is my headcanon

Hang on, it's not clear if it was entirely Yagoo's fault here.
>Yes, Yagoo is president and CEO of covercorp
>HOWEVER, Yagoo is still just an agent to the board of directors
>The board is comprised of 3 other people, one of them is a member of a Venture Capitalist group, and the other two are covercorp representatives.
>Covercorp has several investors, many of which presumably want chinese money

Yagoo is subservient to the board of directors. He has a legal obligation to perform the will of the board. Coco's firing was a product of corporate greed.

>>4831638
no i dont think so. cover management has been shitting on coco for months

>>4831638
A lot led up to this situation and there's no way of knowing if she is leaving on good terms or not. She's fine with the other girls, but I'm not sure about Coco and Cover.

>>4831638
Coco herself said she can't mention the reason she's leaving, so she was most likely forced out by Cover's chink investors. Cope.

>who is at fault
Cover. They wanted Coco gone so they ""accidentally"" modded her bugmen antis to push Coco to the breaking point.

>what should be done about it
Pointless question, nobody will do shit especially not this useless board. This board forgives everything Coco does anyway. They could rape Fubuki in public band people would still dicksuck them.
Meanwhile the Zhangs now know that their methods work so there's nothing stopping them from, say, harassing every holo who supported Coco.
I wonder if this shitty board will still act like Cover did nothing wrong when Gura graduates because of it too.

I’m going to blame the trannies.

Hololive got to popular. Trannies cried, YouTube threatened Cover, Cover got scared of the tranny terrorists.

Same story as every other entertainment medium.

>>4831370
That's what happen when small company turn big in Japan, executive who used to be spokesperson turn into a meme, just look at Cygames and KMR it's exactly the same thing.

>>4831370
Blame Coco for him being meme blowing up. She's the one who called him a free meme.
>>4831638
Unfortunately, we can't even discuss the Aloe/triangle thing due to talking about reincarnations/roommates being looked down on.

>>4831785
All the girls get shit on, the managers are absolutely incompetent and before this year you never heard any good stories about managers before they changed a lot of them

Why the fuck aren't you guys blaming china?

>>4831185
100% Cover in every possible way.

>>4831185
she's one of their bigger talents and put lot's of money in to her. Clover would have 0 reason to can her.

>>4831883
Narukami's not a good source newfag but I know you're baiting and I just want to contribute to rrats. Lets get it. Fuck Mito.

As far as I can tell, Zhang activity has been subsiding and hitting new lows every passing week. Am I wrong? Why are they being blamed when, I think, their anti activity is at its lowest?

>>4832021
we are thru cover

>>4832021
Blaming china doesn't create more drama, "we" need to create more drama

>>4832062
Unless, of course, they made a deal with the Chinese that is worth way more than what Coco brought it

Yagoo kneeled, he must die.

>>4832021
You already know why anon. Look at how many people are saying Coco will join Niji. Guess who niji works with.
>>4832094
Decreased in numbers but this year, they actually spammed EN which we all thought they wouldn't last year when anons posted that image from NGA about them being afraid of EN.

>>4832021
Use your brain mutt

>>4831883
It's only going to get worse from here too, now that those zhangs and chinks got what they wanted for the longest time from Coco.
>>4832021
We're totally blaming China here, we call them chinks and zhangs for a reason.

>>4831883
Sourcing Narukami should be ban worthy

Coco herself. Cover accepted losing their entire CN branch and being blacklisted by most China company only for coco to run away like a bitch

>>4832094
They literally started spamming other Holos channels you retard
That being said this graduation was probably already planned for a while. Most likely Cover modding chink antis was the breaking point for Coco.
How can you continue when your own company backstabs like that to bully you (do you seriously fucking believe this was an accident?)

>>4832153
that would be a huge gamble to rely on

>>4831877
What the hell are these mysterious chink investors? If Cover has these investors, they would fire Coco at the beginning

>>4831638
this is bullshit since her channel got spam filter from youtube. Cover could ask YT to implement it to their other talent's channel, heck they even could turn on member-only chat, the viewers would understand why she do it in the first place.

>>4831932
Take the meds

>>4832094
It's growing, they are actively spamming every girl in Holo now. They know they are being watched on NGA, so they have transferred to their chinese rip-off discord (Kaiheila) and other closed off groups.

>>4832021
Why should anyone you retard?

>>4831185
>kiryu coco decided to graduate on her own
>please andastan

>>4832153
What deal? They're banned in bilibili, they don't want the competition, they're out of the marker forever and coco never had anything to do with it, she was just the best excuse they had to kick holos out

>>4831638
What the fuck happened at aqua?

>>4832222
This

I don't know how anybody can say Cover forced her out when they totally pulled out of China instead of just firing her to begin with. This is the ultimate fact that destroys the rrat of the antis on this board.

>>4832283
Everyone should blame chinks always.

>>4832226
What the fuck, now they're targeting the other girls? I bet they're focusing on the EN girls if that's the case.

>>4831254
good job anon, come my room tonight

>>4832153
What deal then anonchama? Think one of them. Cover already got kicked out from bilibili and several chinese investors for Coco.

>>4831185
The fucking chinks will pay for this

>>4832222
checked

>>4832326
You know what, fuck it. I'll blame burgers instead.

>>4832363
They are, Kiara's channel got spammed hard during her WoW stream for example.

I'm not sure why Cover expects them to stop now that Coco is gone, when all it says it told them is "our methods work".
Wonder if this board will still dicksuck Cover this hard and claim they dindunuffin when it's Gura being harassed and Cover not lifting a finger.
>wooops sowwy Gura we accidentally modded some chink antis for your chat :)

>>4832094
I can't say for the other girls because I only heard that Towa got an increased amount of spammers recently, but Astel and Roberu got lots of spam within the last week.

>>4832289
People don't know that China is trying to make their own vtubers (as propaganda and for money) and bilibili plays the largest part in that. Only reason niji isn't kicked out is because they basically have bilibili assigned managers at that branch.

>>4832283
Don't you know why? A lot of this shit started thanks to China and it's fucking VPN using chinks. They planned out how to harass Coco all because she said Taiwan and the fact they're aware that she's also Half-American.

Maybe not today. Perhaps not tomorrow. But where will you be when holoCN2 is announced?

>>4832482
God damn it.

What the hell is with China lately? Their politics and other bullshit is influencing Hololive inside and out.

>>4832226
>>4831356

The real terror is that it seems that all you need is a few dozen schizos with some easy to access spam tools to forcefully harass people out of having an internet presence. Hell look how much harassment one schizo can do.
https://youtu.be/vJ70gNh77b8?t=630
I like the part where he shows off his twitch sockpuppet accounts.

>>4831185
>Who is at fault
Cover, but anyone insisting they're absolutely certain Cover intended to expel Coco indirectly is a delusional schizo. It's just an incompetent company that got way bigger than it expected and hit the chink yab sooner than it expected. Anycolor's zhang policy is way better.
>What should be done about it
Nothing. Whatever that should be done should've been done months ago. At this point getting back to business with zhangs is the best outcome, but we know there are a large number of delusional schizos who will cope for their inability to "save" Coco by actively sabotaging it.

China is squarely to blame, and thus Cover by extension as they are still infested with bugs that held resentment against Coco.

>"June is a special month"
>"There are countless collaborations"
>"I will do my best to deliver until I get fired"
>"I will support everyone in another way even if I get fired"
>"Push when I can recommend it"

Management wanted to keep her isolated forever whilst taking their %30 and fired her for daring to collab again.

I think it was a mix of things..
Both internal and external.
I think it was all the restrictions and also she had to watch as people she cares about get essentially bullied just for being her friend. The stress just got to it's boiling point and she had enough. I really think the breaking point and where she made her decision was the Mod incident and I actually do believe that was staged internally. Call me a schizo or whatever for that but it all panned out too well for them to try and get a HoloCN going again.

>>4832482
That's just assuming cover wanted her gone. What is the play here for them honestly. Ditch an entire branch for one talent. Then fire the talent anyways? Fire that one talent because she brings in the spam but they have to know they would get spammed anyways? They can't even return to china since bilibili is basically trying to create their own chuubas and would not want this competition.

>>4832482
>I'm not sure why Cover expects them to stop now that Coco is gone
They don't, no one does, you're making something up to shit on them, if anything coco is the one that should be thinking that but she should also know how obstinate chinks are

>>4831638
>Coco = Rengoku
>Coco is stronger than you'll ever hold to be. Much stronger.
>Chinks didn't win against her
>She kept her friends safe
>She fought to the very end
>So no one would be sad
>Coco is the true victor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwriFosLRww

>>4831254
this desu

>>4831185
Zhang is the obvious answer, question is wether cover just simply bending over to china or coco just had enough.

>>4831370
wdym "ugly" this dude's a solid 7 on the jap middle-aged men chart

>>4831254
this, they did nothing for their employee safety

>>4832226
>How can you continue when your own company backstabs like that to bully you (do you seriously fucking believe this was an accident?)
If you're hinging everything on this one incident to explain that Cover absolutely hates Coco, then yes. The depths of people's incompetence is boundless. Attribute to incompetence rather than malice, etc.
But every single one of you are saying other Holos are getting spammed and harassed. I don't actively watch much and have streams on in the background instead, so I don't see that. Looks like Coco crucified herself to save the others instead. Whether it's the right move remains to be seen.
As far as Cover goes, I mean, shit on Cover all you want, but I don't know what anyone expects Cover to do other than mandate every Holo has sub mode turned on permanently.

I wish all members of the Clover CEO families a very ten plagues of Egypt. [in minecraft]

https://youtu.be/LbKnN_u3DLg

>>4831370
CEO does not pull the punches, shareholders do. Do your basic /biz/ reps.

>>4831370
Monday Night RAW had Vince McMahon become a meme CEO so it's not really that weird.

>>4832234
they didn't own 51% of the company at the time

>>4832901
>but I don't know what anyone expects Cover to do
They could stop modding chink antis and treating idols like third-class citizens (can't appear on hologra, can't collab with holoEN, Cover doesn't congratulate her for her birthday, etc.) for the "crime" of getting harassed.

But that's too much to ask of poor innocent dindunuffin Cover, I know.

>>4833048
Why would they own it now, yagoo was starving and decided to let them pass the 50% line?

>>4833048
Can you buy shares without everyone know the transaction?
It could be Cover want to do another venture rounds and Cover clean the company to become more attractive for seller though

>>4833099
Honestly, they could've ignored China altogether, never made a CN branch. Cover was trying to hard to appeal to market by either connecting the world together to enjoy VTubers or fucking appeal to the chinks and zhangs for easy money.

>>4832647
Holy shit.

>>4833166
No wonder greed is one of the seven deadly sins.

The choice was Coco's but the blame falls on the Chinese spam for putting her through so much the past months. Cover failed at times, like not giving her more chat mods until she did it herself, but there wasn't much they could do anyway. Bugs shouldn't be on YT anyway yet they are. Cover tried to use the suspensions of Coco and Haachama as "See? We dealt with it." and to keep them away from any flak. It ended up doing the opposite for Coco. Making things worse. Enough for Cover to decide the Chinese market is not worth it.

I think it came tie for discussions of contract renewal and Coco realized "I can't go through another year of this or worrying when it will start again." the spam isn't going to stop for her own stuff or for Hololive but it saves her mental health and frees her from guilt that she's the one harming her friends. Plus it solves any contentious relationship with some managers who tried to keep her away from everyone.

>>4833222
It's better if they set up EN a bit earlier than CN

>>4832283
Because they're the ones responsible for this. None of this would have ever happened if they weren't triggered by Taiwan literally just being mentioned in passing.

>>4832673
Cover might have want to keep Coco at the beginning but there would have to be some sort of change in Cover's decision within the last 6-7 months which made them feel it would be better to fire her than to keep her. Right now it's just rrats of either internal infighting of people who want to get rid of Coco winning, which is impossible to prove. The other would be a Chinese investor danging investment capital and wanting them to fire coco.

>>4831185
>who is at fault
The fans. You.

>what should be done about it
As a general rule I think you should all be beaten with rods, but I don't think that's enough anymore.

>>4831185
Cucking to the chinks is just as bad as cucking to jews.
It's painfully obvious that Yagoo still hasn't learned this.

>>4833448
Don't just fucking generalize fans, there are clearly some that wanted to support her. I don't watch her for shit, but like any of the other girls she clearly has support.

>>4833507
That's a chink you're replying to

>>4833166
>>4833216
the chink investors don't need to own it themselves, they just need to have more than the non-chink investors to get them on their side on board decisions
they probably only own 20%, but even that is a large influence

>>4833099
That would be convincing if we don't also see Gura cordoned off from the rest of Holo activities like some bastard child.
Again, incompetent idiots that don't know what to do with their most popular assets and in high-pressure situations, so they just shut off.

>>4833415
Or the logical reason that coco finally got tired of chinese spam and being a burden on her coworkers and decided to graduate, it's honestly amazing she endured it for so long

>>4832941
That's not what "pull a punch" means. You mean either "pull the strings" or "call the shots."

>>4833448
stfu chink

>>4833557
Still waiting on these mysterious chink investors, you can find ichikara's very easily, where are cover's?

>>4831185
Chinese Todd Howard
Fuck cover
Fuck hololive
I'm out done with this brown company

>>4833547
Right, better watch out for the chinks and zhangs on these forums, if they are actually on here otherwise they're probably eating animals on their safe space forums.

>>4832647
Yeah, this is what I'm taking away from all this. Even if Coco's graduation had nothing to do with China, in their minds, they "won their battle". Now the slimy mainlanders will think they can cancel anyone they want now.

what does the /nips/ said about this?

>>4833301
Thank you for a reasonable post instead of the usual schizo shit.

>>4833507
>Don't just fucking generalize fans
Antis are antis. You're all stupid cocksuckers trying to hurt other people because you hurt. Then you wrap up yourself in a cause to pretend you're righteous.

>>4833547
Like this Mongoloid.

>>4833663
i need to pay for those docs kek
cover is a k.k., shareholders aren't disclosed
would love to see your sources on ichikara tho, it may help me find out cover's as well

>>4833663
They are just taking narukami's words at face value without checking it themselves. he says "it's public info, check it yourselves" instead of posting pictures like he usually does because he knows no one will bother to check it.

Obviously its the goddamn Chinks.

And obviously, we need to re-enact a former great leader's Final Solution to these chinks.

>>4831681
Lurk more

Kaigai Niki ni tsutaetai ndakedo. Chūgoku ni wa kabushiki no mendōna rūru ga atte, shinshutsu kigyō wa kaisha no kabu o Chūgoku ni jōto suru nodesu. Sono kabu wa futsū wa kogaisha no kabuna ndakedo, kavu~ā wa sore o shinakatta kamo shirenai
91 / 5000
翻訳結果
I want to tell overseas Niki. There is a tedious rule of stock in China, and companies that enter the market transfer their stock to China. The stock is usually a subsidiary stock, but COVER may not have done that.

>>4834126
But narukami says that it's public information? If it's not disclosed publically then he's just rrating

>>4834243
narukami is basically /vt/ if it had a vtuber model

>>4831185
>haha, best girl
>haha, Yagoo is such a funny man
YOU FOOLS!

>>4831774
do you really think YAGOO would get fired by the board for covering for 1 of their dozens of talent

>>4832647
>believing western whores

>>4831883
>pic related
this RRAT sucks, 100% of their investors are japanese.
Cover can suck a cock though

>Who to blame
1. Chinks
2. Every single retard trying to shit blame away from chinks. Groups include: chinks themselves, opportunistic antis, dramafags, reddit fucks crying about racism, NEETs larping as commies resentful of corporations.

>>4834361
This.

Coco

>>4834660
Go to hell, bugman.

>>4832649
>At this point getting back to business with zhangs is the best outcome, b
Fucking cockroaches aren't even being subtle anymore.

>>4834361
Unironically this. Don't trust anything in this board for days.

In other news, Ayame has yet to comment on Coco's announcement.........

>>4831614

not make chinks her fucking nods.

let her collab with holo EN

conratulate her on 1 million

not treat her like a fuck leper

honestly fuck cover when coc leaves im done

>>4834361
Fuck off back to /pol/ cianigger

>>4834361
This post should be a sticky on this board for the next couple days.

>>4834838
Now that's asking for too much.

>>4834361
Chinks and rrats invading boards lately. They've become a fucking nuisance

Hope Coco will becomes a manager or something, imagine the chinks fucking frothing just at the thought.

>>4831185
Funny how this happened a month before Inazuma drops in Genshin. Totally a coincidence.

>>4831185
track them down spam and harrass them

>>4831370
He doesn't seem like he has much control, but if his employees ask him to do something he'll usually do it.

>>4834949
No way she stays with Cover. Fuck them. She should start her own Vshojo.

what if she just got tired of dealing with cover's ineptitude, rabid chinks in the chat, sleeper agents antis amidst her mods, and just wanted out to be at peace of mind?

>>4834243
ok i did find at least 5 minority investors (all of which are vc backers) on pitchbook where it says 17 investors
thing is the other 12 are behind a registration paywall
and crunchbase says they have 11 investors and is also mostly behind a paywall
i don't know any nip company lists
and it's not publicly traded since it doesn't have enough volume for that i think

Narukami isn't a trustworthy source, Stop being massive newfaggots and using him as one.

>>4835233
beg them

Let the rrats begin

>>4835276
Narukami's video was a premiere, meaning the video was done days before it was available. He obviously knew about Coco's graduation long before it was announced pointing to him having a source in Cover.

>>4835375
I was asleep so unless it went up before Coco's stream he's 100% bullshitting.

>>4831932

yknow I always thought the "phobia" part of transphobia was overblown but my dude you literally seem afraid of them. are you okay? i promise you they don't have that kind of power. they won't hurt you.

Let's be real here. The only reason why Coco will graduate is because of creative differences.
-All of the issues that Coco experienced like the mod stuff and zhangs were all fixed since early 2021...
-Her collab restrictions for JP has been lifted for a long time now and she is able to collab with people. She can even collab with EN now and has hinted them since last month.
-Zhang profits is neglible because even when Holo pulled out they still consumed Holos like normal. They still bought their merch like normal. Holo earned in multi millions since terminating their HoloCN. HoloEN is the new frontliners now while HoloJP are the money makers.

It is creative differences because Cover has been being restrictive with their talents ever since their boom. This is not targeted with Coco but Coco is the one most affected because her content revolves around creative content. Not just streaming games like Asacoco. Examples of restrictive behavior:
-Pekora's project getting shutdown which resulted to her breakdown
-Marine's project shutdown which resulted to her extended break and depression
-Korone's project shutdown which also depressing her
-Haachama's content slapdown which caused her to go on a vacation

If anything has to be done here, is for Cover to provide their talents a way to still be creative. Coco mentioned that there were projects that won't see the light of day and that's because Cover won't approve them. She has said once before that she has ran out of ideas and took a break. She probably had another proposal that got denied again and chose to leave after the fact.

>>4831932
is this what rent-free means
or is this sarcasm

>>4835230
>rabid chinks
there's your problem holofag

>>4832283
Tiananmen Square Massacre 1989
天安门大屠杀 1989
Gtfo

>>4835526
holoCN2 will be announced before holoEN2 debut

>>4832283
everything is china's fault, it's been canon since the 1950s

>>4834361
Based
Chinks seething

>>4831185
In terms of blame, from lowest to highest:
>Co-talents
>Western antis
>Bugmen antis
>Cover
>Chinese shareholders
>The Chinese as a nation
>The Chinese as a species

>>4835463
It went up at the same time as Coco's announcement.

>>4832625
If a hololive talent went on a racist tirade and said "nigger" or "kike", the Japanese audience would probably not give a shit, but they'd fire them because they want American money. It's the same with China, except they've got such a fucking short fuse that even mentioning Taiwan in passing is enough to earn a spot in the Book of Grudges. It's fucking pathetic and terrifying how much their social credit scores have influence over their lives.

>>4835526
Honestly, there were many different reasons for her to leave. Saying creative differences is the only reason doesn't seem right.

>>4832283
Kys you chink apologist

Kiryu Coco is also active on YouTube as kson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ect0J821X60

>>4835752
>If a hololive talent went on a racist tirade and said "nigger" or "kike",
kiara...

>>4835787
She obviusly wanted to continue. Just the fact that she said had plans that won't see the light of day already tells you she's doing this reservations. If those projects were greenlit. She would stay. If you watch her roommate. You know she's happier there without the grip of hololive restricting her movements

Lowkey hoping for a HoloCN gen 2. Just want to see the shitshow everywhere.

>>4835832
thank you anon

>>4835917
Of course, I'm just simply saying that cannot be the reason alone for her leaving or graduation. I hope she can do more and better since she's leaving and will gain more creative freedom. The main issue here though is that there were other factors which contribute to her leaving Hololive, one of which is the chinks.

>>4831185
if hololive is such an awful company, why did coco made a giant Yagoo in minecraft as a final thank you. I pretty sure she was grateful for the opportunity, but felt she wanted to do something else. she plan to blow it up on her final day

Some people were wondering but I guess we now know why Mori turned the comments off after her Mario Party collab yesterday.

>>4836145
Would be fucking Kino

>>4836301
>ms. naruhodo planning ahead
lol, mori is probably still out of the loop. she turned it off because she can't handle criticism. it was either turn off the comment or private the stream like last time.

>>4831185
Coco's at fault because she cant fit in as an idol

Fuck all this sadness and fuck China, I'm going to the Kson chat room on YouTube to talk about Pizza, it's lit in there

>>4836638
sad

>>4836145
Kino in the purest sense of the word

>>4836523
Mori is the biggest airhead of HololiveEN

>>4831932
still a million times better take than the faggotry of covercucks and zogbots

>>4831185
All of Cover's executives need to be fired as parting gift to Kaichou!

If you want to say it's China's fault, fine. They are the enemy, sure. But Cover was supposed to be Coco's shield, and Cover failed in every single aspect. You don't blame a pack of wolves for eating your ham, you blame the mother fucker who threw the ham to them. Fuck Cover.

Coco HoloEN2 when?

>>4836892
i do blame them as well they are traitors and they need to be harassed

>>4836145
>giant Yagoo in minecraft as a final thank you
Cover isnt only just YAGOO and japs corporate culture demands politeness and face value even under extreme incident or conflict. I dont think its sincere in anyway just like how all the Holomem response are doctored with the word "bright" appeared in all of them.

It doesn't matter if the girls stop Coco. My rrat will always be that Coco and Cover had a falling out and they're trying to salvage their reputation by saying it's "amicable"

>>4835526
Honestly, this is the best take

Primary rrat /vt/ will believe and push: fired over China shit and antis
Secondary rrat: fired for resuming activity as kson
Reality: got bored of covers restrictions and wants to be kson instead

>>4831185
It's obviously the Zhangs and their sensitive ego fucks on Taiwan.

>>4835526
she can be like that one idol lady that quit and started her own idol company. Coco knows what it is like to be a vtuber, she will have a leg up on recruiting and retaining talents better than any suits at cover.

>Coco gets harassed
>Cover does nothing
>""""accidentally""" mods chink antis to push her to """"voluntary"""" graduation
>YAASSSS KING YAGOO SLAYYY!! IT WAS AN ACCIDENT YOU GO KING
>you know it's ok, we can just pretend Coco "won" so Cover isn't too blame
>bugmen move to harassing Aqua until she graduates
>It's okay if idols keep graduating bro it's totally voluntary bro, if you graduate because of your enemies, you win (trudeau.jpg)
Will Cover dicksuckers still say this when the zhangs come for Gura, I wonder.

>>4834361
Its important to remember that chinks didnt act alone. You can know that chinks are to blame and still understand that it is also the fault of management for either willingly submitting to the chinks or failing to stop them.

I'm just gonna blame china for coco graduation because i'm racist.

Fuck chinkniggers and fuck anyone who bows to them. That is all.

>>4837619
They'll keep sucking like always and then reality comes crashing down once it starts happening. Fucking idiots I tell you.

>>4835744
And it was a pre-recorded video premier

>>4834209
Tell me, faggot.

>>4836145
The giant Sad Yagoo is stuck outside Pekoland, doomed to gaze upon a paradise he can never enter.

I hostly think it's more likely that Cover were fighting to keep her in than kick her out. She's probably been wanting to leave for a while due to the continued attacks on her and her friends, Cover's ineptitude in protecting them, youtube fucking her over in was twitch doesn't, Cover's creative stifling of her, and when she finally gets something she's wanted for over six months, Permission to collab with EN, she finally realises that it's not going to stop or get better. But they have been fighting to keep her because she makes a lot of money and if she leaves, what was the fucking point of the CN thing?

>>4838855
The CN management was just as slimey as some of the talents as per the fact they lied outright to the CN girls regarding their termination and basically let them do whatever the fuck they wanted (Artia on twitch)

>>4838855
>Cover was fighting to keep her
>Cover didn't protect her and stifled her creatively
Anon...

>>4838927
What I mean is they probably had a mindset of "That was a big loss but at least we got to keep Coco" and that's why they've been trying to keep her since

>>4838980
The lack of protection was ineptitude. The stifling was like "I wish we could allow you to do that but our hands are tied". Hell, the recent EN permissions (and maybe the Vshojo permissions) were probably a hail mary attempt to stop her from leaving

China makes HoloLive bow down to them using their immense amount of money
where they got it from? through Capitalism, of course

>>4835526
Sorry for being a newfag but what were Pekora's, Marine's, and Korone's cancelled projects?

>>4839087
This makes sense anon but you know it will never become the accepted narrative.

>>4837619
>Will Cover dicksuckers still say this when the zhangs come for Gura
I think I remember them trying to start shit with Ina

>>4836145
>yfw she goes on a 10 minute monolog and spills all the beans about hololive before blowing up everything and ends the stream

>>4838927
Hell if Artia is to be believed they covered up Spade Echo's sex scandal.

>>4839026
They got out of China on the cusp of even greater government regulation of streamers which would have killed simulcasts on bilibili unless they gave even their JP talents CCP handlers to approve content.
Attempting to keep Coco was obvious as she printed money, but they did their damnedest to lock her away from the rest of hololive, especially EN.

>>4834361
Based. Also if I may add a 3rd?

3. Chink Cover execs and/or investors

The dangerous thing about Chink moneybags and businesses with the exception of Alibaba until about a few months ago when Jack Ma went the Weinstein route, is that they're mandated to be owned by the CCP. So whatever money they have, CCP has the final say.

>>4831185
Cover are a bunch of tech incompetent boomers
>some of their more popular streamers still have atrocious rigs and tracking
>some of the streamers still use toasters
>the entire coco thing where they moderated a bunch of chinese antis
>the constant technical problems during events

>>4839540
don't matter, they have the money
using capitalism to control HoloLive according to their wishes

>>4831254
Based. Been thinking about this since the first time Coco got suspended. The rrat that Cover is incompetent is no joke. They're just extremely lucky to be able to succeed.

>>4831370
Based this too. His presence is his talents' contents is abnormal. It was funny for the first and second time, it becoming so cringey after some times. Maybe it was all his instruction for his talents to make fun of himself.

>>4839645
I don't think they're incompetent though. It's just that if you think about the whole thing from a Chink shareholder standpoint, then everything makes sense.

>>4832941
Wrong. Day-to-day decisions like telling the employee what to do is made by the CEO.
Shareholders make big decisions, like, should they expand to China? Should they choose to expand to Indonesia or India? Is it the time to recruit more talents? Something like that.

>>4839179
Not entirely in the loop but I think at least for Pekora she had wanted to thank her supporters through a project but Cover wouldn't let her do it in that particular way so she felt sad that she wasn't able to properly thank them. She didn't mention what the project was (if she did we might've criticized Cover for shutting it down).

>>4831356
It's still Cover because:
They directly banned Asacoco (apparently) instead of telling her the potential consequences for both her and Cover, and allowing her to make up her mind.
They banned her from doing collabs (apparently) instead of telling her and the partners the potential consequences and allowing them to make up their minds.
You can block replies from people you don't follow on twitter.
You can remove comment sections & chat on youtube.
They could have paid people to moderate, or had staff become moderators to block spam.
Ultimately this is because they suspended Coco & Hachamama in the first place, breaking the first rule of anti-trolling, which is never directly respond to trolls.
The moment you give into a troll is the moment they win, and everything after is just their victory lap.
If fans quit because they can no longer comment or chat then so be it.
If the spammers try doing it to other holo's, you shut it down over there.
What they should have done was ignore the trolls, ignore the Taiwan incident outwardly (you'd warn the rest of the holos not to talk about Taiwan or Hong Kong ever internally) and move on. If any supposed Chinese partners or shareholders complain, tell them you've made your decision and they can either quit or move on and keep making money because you'd rather get other sponsors, or you'd rather quit and start an entirely new company than give in to the trolls or do anything more than internally warn Holo's about Taiwan/HK.
Cover doesn't seem to understand that their business is about 1) Keeping their core talent happy 2) Ensuring their Holo's are entertaining their fans in order to make superchats, memberships, merch and to attract sponsors keen to tap into the supporter base 3) Properly updating their technology & services to help 1 & 2 as required.
All of the Taiwan shit was an un-necessary shooting of yourself in the foot.
I wouldn't have even shut down Holo CN without it being forced by the Chinese Government.

can i get some info on the modded antis?

>>4831254
This desu, in the end they still couldn't do enough for Coco and she decided to leave

>>4840863
There's not much to say.
"I the innocent staffer am going to ban all of these Chinese trolls OOPS I GAVE THEM ALL MOD POWERS SILLY ME OH NOOOOO THEY BANNED ALL OF COCO'S TOP SUPPORTERS HOW UNFORTUNATE :^)"

>>4840298
>They directly banned Asacoco (apparently) instead of telling her the potential consequences for both her and Cover, and allowing her to make up her mind.
>They banned her from doing collabs (apparently) instead of telling her and the partners the potential consequences and allowing them to make up their minds.
Speculation.
>You can block replies from people you don't follow on Twitter.
How do you block someone from spamming your hashtag? Look in coco's hashtag and sort by latest, it's all Chinese bots.
Blocking replies scares off newcomers.
>You can remove comment sections & chat on youtube.
Bud, what would be the point? The main attraction of these girls is the interaction, Coco even cried during her 800k endurance when she thought new people wouldn't subscribe if chat was members only.
>They could have paid people to moderate, or had staff become moderators to block spam.
Coco literally modded as many long-time members as she could and it didn't help. Cover also does have mods on other girl's channels. Doesn't help when the platform doesn't offer better moderation tools.
>Ultimately this is because they suspended Coco & Hachamama in the first place, breaking the first rule of anti-trolling, which is never directly respond to trolls.
I agree.
>If fans quit because they can no longer comment or chat then so be it.
Cmon now. You can't be serious.
>If the spammers try doing it to other holo's, you shut it down over there.
You mean stop all coments? As I said, wouldn't work.
>What they should have done was ignore the trolls, ignore the Taiwan incident outwardly (you'd warn the rest of the holos not to talk about Taiwan or Hong Kong ever internally) and move on. If any supposed Chinese partners or shareholders complain, tell them you've made your decision and they can either quit or move on and keep making money because you'd rather get other sponsors, or you'd rather quit and start an entirely new company than give in to the trolls or do anything more than internally warn Holo's about Taiwan/HK.
I agree, they should've just tried moving on from china and focus on the west, but doesn't matter now. The problem would be the trolls, still.
>Cover doesn't seem to understand that their business is about 1) Keeping their core talent happy 2) Ensuring their Holo's are entertaining their fans in order to make superchats, memberships, merch and to attract sponsors keen to tap into the supporter base 3) Properly updating their technology & services to help 1 & 2 as required.
That could be true, but it's speculative. Cover did grow too fast, even gen 1 + 2 didn't have managers or a clear goal, they were gens only in name. They were learning as they were going.
>All of the Taiwan shit was an un-necessary shooting of yourself in the foot.
Again, you're trying to ignore something you can't. Unless you suggest Coco outright said that Taiwan was China then there would be Chinese trolls regardless. And those early days of spam were taxing on everyone.
>I wouldn't have even shut down Holo CN without it being forced by the Chinese Government.
You only hate the dictatorship of China, imagine living in it. Even if Cover went against Chinese wishes the talents would be at risk because they are exposed to it. Unless you think all those people being sent to jail in China by speaking against the government is fake news.

>>4832721

>>4831488
Being Yagoo is pain...

>>4839375
That would be kino

>>4839375
Do it Coco. You're not a Japanese citizen. Breaking contracts is not illegal, and in any case you can leave the country right afterwards. Burn it down, Coco. Kill what you helped create. Destroy Hololive.

>>4831185

Everyone except Coco's fanbase is at fault.

The CCP antis are at fault, for harassing a total stranger for almost a year just because she mentioned Youtube analytics, going as far as to infiltrate her modding team and banning veteran viewers out of spite.

Cover is at fault, for claiming they're stepping up their anti-harassment measures, yet being willing to overlook harassment for months, and even (allegedly) being complicit in a lot of the shit that Coco went through, like every request to collab with EN being denied, Coco being absent from the New Year's special when literally everyone else was there, and effectively being banned from participating in Holo Graffiti since the incident. Arguably they worsened things from the start, because if they didn't place Coco and Haachama on timeout then the antis wouldn't have been galvanised. Everybody's shit.

>>4841186
Remember that all this is done solely because your talent is being spammed, and you can't let the spammers win. You are wildly over-estimating just how many people will stop watching the videos which is where the content is and where the entertainment factor comes from, not from twitter or comments or chat. And if you aren't over-estimating the financial impact of reducing interaction then well you either live with the spam & work around it, or your company has a sword of Damocles over your head because what's stopping spammers from fucking with every holo until your company is dead?
>How do you block someone from spamming your hashtag? Look in coco's hashtag and sort by latest, it's all Chinese bots.
Stop using hashtags. Or ignore the spam.
>Blocking replies scares off newcomers.
So what, it's better than having chinkspam under every post.
>Bud, what would be the point? The main attraction of these girls is the interaction, Coco even cried during her 800k endurance when she thought new people wouldn't subscribe if chat was members only.
Because Holo's are not based around "interaction" it's about their content. If you can't interact because of chink spam you either disable the interaction or ignore the spam. At the very least you can keep interaction via superchats.
>That could be true, but it's speculative.
From what I've seen/read about Cover I don't think it's malicious in any way, it's just the natural situation of how a company built around making VR technology turns into a content creation company. Nintendo used to be a playing card company, Google was just a search engine, Amazon sold books online. When a company grows or becomes successful in an area outside the one they originally intended there's going to be growing pains.

>>4841597
Cover's response to Taiwan incident should have been "lol go fuck yourself Zhang" and maybe threaten to pull out CN if things got too hot. JUST STAND UP FOR YOUR TALENT FOR FUCKS SAKE. DON'T PUT BLOOD IN THE WATER. Absolutely no reason to suspend them. Same can be said about literally every single other suspension Cover has handed down to its personalities.

>>4831370
He's a good boss it seems, but thats not who you should be worried. its those people who are actually in control, the shareholders, and the higher ups in cover.

>>4839458
>believing Judas

>>4831614
Unironically people were alright with members only chats because of the dumb spam.

>>4841848

Well, that's what I mean - the moment Cover decided 'Okay, we need to discipline these people', the crusaders determined to see Coco ruined had all the fuel they needed to keep going. Now that Coco's on her way out, they're probably entirely convinced that their words and ways have power, and will set about harassing anybody that displeases them similarly until they too are made to conveniently disappear.

Damn it, Coco had quickly became my favourite out of the Holomembers. She really had great chemistry with whoever she was paired with, and was a great gateway for EN viewers like me.

She will be missed.

Does the "she swears too much, pushes the boundaries too much, she was warned but continues to do so," explanation too simplistic for her termination?

>>4835165
What if she JOINS Vshojo?

>>4831185
Chink insects are the obvious main cause but also it made it clear that Holo management fucking sucks at the internet culture and security in general. They didnt even make any guidelines to deal with Chinks. All Holo members were always awkwardly turning on membership only mode after Chink insects started to spam. It just proves that Holo members didnt share any official rules to squish Chink bugs.

Although, nothing interesting will come even though we shit on Holo management. It will just help the ongoing Chink insect storm, so we should talk about how we change Cocos decision. Nijis Sasaki graduated once but she came back after a few months. Im sure Coco isnt that convinced by her own decision.

>>4831638
Kanata was kind of poor wasn't she? And she doesn't really have a good relationship with her family. Losing a job is risky nowadays too.
It's likely Coco told Kanata to stay even if there was any internal pressure from Cover.

>>4841962
They'll go after Haachama next. Aqua after that. Fubuki at some point, followed by the rest of Gamers. Cover ruined everything.

>>4831638
> Coco's good friend Kanata would be ok with that? No, she obviously wouldn't.
Lmao what is she going to do? Quit her lucrative job and return to complete irrelevancy?

>>4842240
>Im sure Coco isnt that convinced by her own decision.
Anon...

>>4842369
Chinks are attacking nearly every Holo JP member now, so Cocos graduation wont make any difference.

I have this insane crackpot theory that it has little to do with the chinese and more to do with Cover becoming more restrictive. Multiple projects were restricted or shut down incluuding Haachama's and Pekora's. Didn't Asacoco get denied as well?

Coco is an innovator and pusher of boundaries, being unable to do that, as well as maybe the feeling that she's already done enough(notice how she didn't really do anything that special in a while) she simply decided to quit. Simple creative differences and exhaustion.

>>4842468
Anon what?, dumb Chink insect.

>>4842513
First of all never call me a chink insect ever again.
Second of all that's the literal definition of denial, don't think >we can make her change her mind if her fellow gen members and other holos didn't manage to do it.

>>4842505
rrat garbage. if so then she wouldnt have made the yagoos monument in holo jp mc server. you dont even watch her streams, eop clipfaggot

>>4842592
>First of all never call me a chink insect ever again.
ahahahah

CHINK INSECT CRYING AND MAD LMAO

you chinky chinky CHINK INSECT better kill yourself

>>4842655
Just because yagoo’s the ceo doesn’t mean he makes all the decisions retard

>>4842708
You fucking retard I'm not a chink, use that single braincell you use to type and think. Literally the best thing you can do is hope that Coco will reincarnate as an indie

>>4842505
It's literally that. Of course the spambot shit definitely has to do with it but this shit has been hinted at for a while.

She wasn't allowed to do Asacoco anymore, company overall became a lot more careful and restrictive than usual, her ideas getting shot down all the time, shit handling of the spam against her and others, Enma ignoring her and the only thing she had left was a meme review of the same recycled memes every week.

Creative people like Coco don't survive being in a company when they don't have creative freedom and that's the direction things were going in.

>>4831254
This. The ONLY reason why Clover sided with Coco and killed holoCN is because Coco was the number one superchat channel in YouTube. Coco was generating millions in revenue. Then clover did NOTHING to stop the antis harassing Coco. She took the harassing all on her own all this time.

I would say I'm glad Clover will not get the Coco money anymore but hololive shills will give it to the Shark instead.

>>4842505

Unless she lied out her ass for no reason, she explicitly mentioned that she had plans and dreams left unfulfilled, all while crying her eyes out. That doesn't really strike me as someone who's 'done enough'.

What implications does the HoloAlt dragon being changed from random dragon to Coco have, in light of this new info?

>>4842770
wumao

>>4842770
then dont be loud and so try hard about that like chink bugs. this board is chock full of chink insect shills that sound like you

>>4831638
>even fucking Aloe didn't have any negative feelings towards Cover when she left
Her now recently deleted tweets say otherwise

>>4842873
You definitely meant Cover, but even still, it was already confirmed that HoloCN took part in the harassment campaigns by the anti's and CN community when the Taiwan incident popped up. The HoloCN girls like Artia have evidence of them being backstabbers, not entirely sure about the rest of them though.

>>4842985
Screencap or busted anon

>>4842958

Said by the guy who used caps lock when he didn't and called him a 'CHINKY CHINK INSECT LMAO'. Irony is hard to acknowledge, these days.

>>4842719
so then you are saying she didnt have any conflict with yagoo but had a strong conflict with someone else? who are those.

>>4843026
Do your reps anon holy shit. The screencap is literally being posted on every thread

>>4843043
lmao yea you are a typical chink insect. chink insects only have a bug small brain, so they always act and response the same bug way

rrat: Coco really was Yagoo’s favourite, and he was the only one fighting for her to stay behind the scenes. The broken dream meme Coco kept pushing was less about the impurity of the girls and more about him losing control of his vision to appeal to the Chinese

>>4838792
Mel was raped by her manager and had to take a break for a few months due to pregnancy. This happened around the middle of last year, I think.

>>4842815
I think it's both. I don't think Cover suddenly kicked her out, noe do I think they were deliberately trying to make her quit. It's jest been a case of "The best they can do for her isn't fucking good enough". The creative restrictions, the collab restrictions, the lack of protection, the frequent mistakes. They weren't and still aren't ready to deserve Coco. I do think they wanted her there. She was part of Hololive Alternative. She was in live concerts. I honestly think the EN permissions were to try and get her to change her mind and stay. But this is still their fault.

>>4834878
>muh /pol/ CIA
Cope harder, Chang.

>>4832721
dumb shonentard

>>4843145
no mel was dealing with it like a real chad. its hard for anyone to get that shit done like her.

>>4834361
Chinks and Cover are 100% to blame.

>>4831254
You are correct

>>4834361
Chinks are in the wrong, of course, but Cover are the ones who chose to kneel to them

I'm not 100 percent cover would go through the motions of giving her a new outfit only to force her out a few months later. Or the trouble of fixing her model.

It's very possible she's just tired of either being under Cover, she's tired of vtubing and wants to go back to her roommate streams, or just was tired of the chink spam even if it's in some sense gotten better (although some anons seem to think that it's gotten worse because they spam others) but I guess nothing lasts forever

>>4843451
Because doing that for her entire generation and left Coco out wouldn't look sus at all.

>>4843451
Yeah, I think they've been trying to keep her in despite the fact they're just not good enough at protecting her or allowing her any freedom t justify it in the end. Don't get me wrong, this is their fault, but I dn't believe the rrats that they're trying to kick her out to rekindle their China connections. Those bridges are burned and they know it.

>>4836145
A lot of the girls said good things about Yagoo, about him always being positive and being a yes man. But obviously, he's a CEO, and there's a whole chain of command there. He isn't directly responsable for the talents, and doesn't have as much influence on them as you'd think. In the end, I don't think he has any say or possibly even interest in the content they produce.

>>4842770
>You fucking retard I'm not a chink, use that single braincell you use to type and think.
Of course a chink would say that, so how do we believe you?

>>4843676
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Do you really think I don't dislike chinks or something?

>>4843451
>It's very possible she's just tired of either being under Cover, she's tired of vtubing and wants to go back to her roommate streams, or just was tired of the chink spam even if it's in some sense gotten better (although some anons seem to think that it's gotten worse because they spam others) but I guess nothing lasts forever

eops dont watch her streams, so always only have to make an rrat from shit clips like that. if she were so tired she woudlnt have even tried to make the holo house in a sim game. i totally understand japaense but she was quite happily talking about "her dreamy holo house" in the stream. so im sure she hasnt wanted to graduate yet.

>>4831254
What is a "black comany"?

Its obvious after what happened with Shion.
Coco feels guilty for being the catalist for many of her friends and co-workers being harassed and threatened, she understands that this won't stop anytime soon so she will quit.

Someday the Chinese communist party will fall and we will finally be allowed to enjoy things again.

>>4843599
I think if they wanted her out they would have dropped her ass a long time ago and just moved on. Let's get real and stop pretending the backlash would be immense or anything.

>>4843607
i think you're on the money here myself. We'll see of course, but honestly we'll just have to see if her roommate becomes active again or not. i know she had just reactivated a membership thing or something some months back.

>>4843843
It's hard to say honestly but I see your point. My rrat of the day is that this has been brewing in her head for a while and maybe she really did want to stay, but she just burned out creatively and Cover's failure to support for one reason or another caused her to leave. Whether or not this is Cover's intent i think is another argument entirely

>>4843746
you are a CCP agent posting from foreign country, simple as that

>>4831638
>Cover will not try to re-enter China.
literally made a post of her graduation announcement in chinese

>>4844039
Well not like I can do much to change your mind, and to be honest I don't fucking care enough to. Still, go fuck yourself for even assuming I'm a chink.

>>4843451
I doubt the entire Cover management does meetings for new outfits, there's probably people operating on mixed signals and whoever worked on her outfit wasn't aware

>>4843941
I don't think the fact she had dreams, goals and loved the girls really 'disproves' that this was her decision. Sometimes you have to balance the bad with the good and if the bad's too heavy it's not worth it.

>>4844089
i hope you get culled by the muslims
and don't spawn any chinklets while waiting for it

>>4844239
You sure sound like a chink falseflagging yourself.
Don't get caught or your social credit will tank

>>4844106
That's fair enough. I see you your point. I am so tired of this shit always being so hush hush, hopefully it leaks out somewhere along the line. Just between protecting the company and trying to maintain the illusion of JUST AN ANIME GIRL ONLINE it gets frustrating. But you're probably right on that at least.

>>4844119
yeah, I agree with that. It's probably nice that she makes my entire months salary in a day, but being an entertainer in itself is always stressful.

>>4831638
>Even fucking Aloe didn't have any negative feelings towards Cover when she left.
She did seem to have some interesting things to say about this particular matter though.

>>4831614
Come out and just say Fuck China and Taiwan is the real China

>>4844278
haha, you are projecting
watch yours

>>4843145
Not raped but stalked and harrased by one of Cover staff. And Cover didn't do shit against him for long time becouse muh company image

>>4843941
>she just burned out creatively
coco isnt an amateur streamer. i mean kson isnt new to streaming, also coco was talking about being a streamer is her best job. also i dont see a big difference between coco and kason. even if she was struggling something, it wouldnt cause her identity crisis or an inner conflict between kason and coco.

imo the main reason is literally chink insects and covers amateur tier knowledge/management of internet security in general.

>>4844413
i think it was just all factors above that contributed to her. I believe her leaving is her choice, but cover really hasn't made a good faith effort to protecting their talent from chinks

>>4831380
Thanks.
I needed good laugnt now

>>4844288
>cover told aloe they'd strengthen anti-harassment measures while they were trying to get her to stay
>turns out they didn't and now coco is out

>>4831254
>>4831301
stfu zhang

>>4837619
gura already have a channel before this, even when zhang did harm to her and forced her to graduate she still can return to her old channel or join vshoujo

she is smart

>Aqua and Pekora get into political drama
>Cover puts out a statement saying that they'll train their talents so that something like that doesn't happen again
>Fastforward
>Coco gets into the Taiwan drama
>Wants to make an apology saying that she DIDN'T KNOW she wasn't supposed to treat Taiwan and China as separate
>Cover denies it because it would reveal that they didn't actually do any training, exposing their incompetence to stockholders, especially the Chinese ones
>Lack of a proper apology makes Chinese nationalists target her and the rest of Hololive
>Coco is too big to just throw out, Hololive would be unsalvageable if they did that
>But the smell of chink money is too sweet
>So Cover backs away from China for now
>But starts mistreating Coco to drive her into graduation
>8 months later
>Mission accomplished
Now watch as Cover starts getting into the Chinese market again. You can already see the first steps being taken with the Mandarin translation of Coco's graduation announcement.

>>4844466
>Ina started getting spammed for no reason while she was drawing Watame

It's obvious that the chinks are on a crusade against Hololive, Coco leaving won't stop shit, if anything they will feel emboldened.

>>4842993
Yeah cover lol. Who were the backstabers according to Artia? Cover or her Chinese fans?

>>4831638
>>4844288
Why do people bootlick corporations? Here's a caps for you

FOR THE GOOD OF THE TALENTS YOU LIKE AND THE WELL BEING OF YOUR OSHI, YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T

>>4844602
>Mandarin translation of Coco's graduation announcement
Did they really do that? Goddamn I'm never watching anything by Cover if that is true.

>>4842476
And they started doing that before Coco’s graduation was announced too. I remember several months back that several Zhangs said that Cover was their real target, and they hoped that by focusing Coco they could cause a domino effect.

>>4843877
Fucking google, Anon. It's even on wikipedia.

>>4844608
Wouldn't you?

>>4842505
Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a big factor.

>>4844678
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1402467183674859520
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1402467182567559170

Cover is never going to publicly apologize as fans would turn on them. China is not going to let them in without an apology. Out of all the shit narratives you hose to believe this one.
Cover just failed Coco. That's all there is to it.

>>4843026
DeepL version, since the google translate version sucks

>>4844823
A series of dark fantasy books?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Company

>>4833566
I'm out of the loop, what's the deal with Gura and why are people mentioning her as the next target?

>>4845047
she also praises Taiwan

>>4832222
>>4832222
>Cover accepted to leave China
Implying that they didnt bend over backwards trying to apologize to the zhangs even suspending both Coco and Haato for ''making statements insensitive to certain nationalities'',the only reason they didnt give the boot to Haato and Coco back then was for fear of a even bigger backlash from Japan and the west.
Coco is leaving now 9 months after and people are still mad,imagine if Cover had fired both Coco and Haato in the heat of the moment,it would be over for Cover.

Be Cover
-act like a paranoid boomer parent and restrict your dragon daughter's any attempt to progress her life. No Asacoco. No controversial, dark, insulting or actually funny meme
-reject all shows shows that resembles asacoco
-give her toys to play with but lock inside her room and tell her it's for her own good
-daughter rans away and goes back to her Mom Kson. She realizes it's fun being free.
-Offer her more toys. Let her play with her old friends but don't approve any of her projects
-Do as little possible effort to control trolls too.

Coco has always been tough. She was able to handle the zhangs well. She broke down once but has always been strong ever since. But her getting drowned in red tape and being sterilized was the last draw. There is essentially no reason to stay. She has the money. She can still stay in contact with her holo friends and her indie channel is getting moderate success. If Cover doesn't change their policies. A lot of the othe Holos will follow her. A lot of them have been talking about graduation topics as well since last month. They were clearly denoting towards Coco's graduation.

>>4844602
>>4844678
Some people have said that that translation was in traditional Chinese, the script used in Taiwan and Hong Kong. If that’s true, then it doesn’t mean anything dicey.

>>4832175
>>4832175
based barbarian with a strict honor system delivering judgment on traitors

>>4831185
>choose to drop an entire branch in one of the biggest and most lucrative markets for her
>lets her do yabe things that most other holos can't do
>give her important roles in future projects like hololive alternative
>she still leaves them for her IRL channel that she coincidentally resurrected recently and that is getting tons of support and money from hololive fans
>Cover bad, reddit dragon good
It's all so tiresome.

>>4845003
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=black+company+term

>>4845314
>no longer appears in HoloGra
>not allowed to collab with Holo EN
>not allowed to do AsaCoco
Yeah totally were supporting her, bro.

>>4845314
>Implying that they didnt bend over backwards trying to apologize to the zhangs even suspending both Coco and Haato for ''making statements insensitive to certain nationalities'',the only reason they didnt give the boot to Haato and Coco back then was for fear of a even bigger backlash from Japan and the west.
>Coco is leaving now 9 months after and people are still mad,imagine if Cover had fired both Coco and Haato in the heat of the moment,it would be over for Cover.

"Implying that they didnt bend over backwards trying to apologize to the zhangs even suspending both Coco and Haato for ''making statements insensitive to certain nationalities'',the only reason they didnt give the boot to Haato and Coco back then was for fear of a even bigger backlash from Japan and the west.
Coco is leaving now 9 months after and people are still mad,imagine if Cover had fired both Coco and Haato in the heat of the moment,it would be over for Cover."

>>4845314
>choose to drop an entire branch in one of the biggest and most lucrative markets for her
So much fake news in that one statement daddy Xi would be proud

Does anyone know how long this has been up on the website?

>>4845405
>Not allowed to collab with HoloEN
>Has collabed with HoloEN just a couple of weeks ago
>Not allowed to do AsaCoco
>No evidence for such whatsoever, she could simply had ran out of ideas
I dislike Cover for just letting their talent fend off by themselves against the harrasment but come on now.

>>4845435
I appreciate responding with my post but you could've just replied to both,makes it look like i'm spamming.

>>4845405
>not allowed to collab with Holo EN
clearly already disproved
>not allowed to do AsaCoco
asacoco ran its course and Coco herself wanted to move on to something else, which ended up being meme review

>>4845469
It says "a new audition will start in 2020" further down the page.

My guess is it's a page that they forgot to take down after Coco mentioned the no-no country

>>4843920
What happened with Shion?

>>4841991
Level 19

>>4831614
Not 'accidentally' make chink antis mods

>>4845314
Read, faggot.
>>4844288
>>4844988

>>4845938
And? Aloe's graduations was mainly her own fault, only a blind retard could possibly think otherwise.

>>4845741
Shion was supposed to be the guest for last weekend's Reddit Shitpost Meme Review. It got postponed, according to Coco.

>>4845741
JAV leak.

Who's next to graduate bros? My guess in this order:
Haachama(not because the anti's she's just tired of vtubing)
Mori
Mel
Towa
Marine (she's also getting burnt out)
Fubuki (this one will be a huge shitstorm)

>>4846351
hope Fubuki retires on October 1st (CCP's National Day) so /pol/ and /vt/ can seethe once again

>>4846511
We already have this one.

>>4846873
July 1st is founding of CCP in 1921
October 1st is proclamation of PRC in 1949
either Fubuki or Haachama would do in October 1st to create another shitstorm like this

>>4846351
Could absolutely see Haachama. She seemed to put a lot of work into her weird creepypasta thing and Hololive shut it down.

Also she doesnt seem to as much weird stuff anymore. Management probably told her to tone it down.

Would Coco sign up with pick related?
Would they take her?
Is she too radioactive?

>>4831638
>Even fucking Aloe didn't have any negative feelings towards Cover when she left
didn't she literally just today blog about how much she hates cover's incompetence?

Guys im starting to think veibae was right all along, are Vshojo based and Hololive cringe????