/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>throwing up blood
kronies, i think you oshi is dying

>>48421592(me)
*your

>>48421541
Let me guess, the source on this one is Kronii?

>>48421541
>Gives over half her monthly income to her parents
Red flag. Red flag.

do koreans really

>>48421541
>Letting her parents become leeches, instead of investing into projects for her fans
Why are cuckronies like this?

>>48421628
Both her real parents and step parents are giant leeches, don't know why she gives them money.

>>48421628
>Red flag. Red flag.
Genuine question, how is that a red flag?

not until I get female friends

>>48421592
that was after her surgery, she called on Bae for her birthday still in the hospital

>>48421705
>grown women gives half of paycheck to parents
She is retarded and her parents want to leech off her.

>>48421628
im sorry your parents kicked you out when you were just a teenager

>>48421541
go back to your containment thread, holofag

>she gives her parents money and sends her friends birthday wishes
It's sad that society is at the point where people think this is worthy of praise

>>48421858
I'm sorry that you're from a 3rd world country but in Canada and the US it's not normal to give up half your income to your shitty parents in your mid 20s.

>>48421541
>Gives over half her monthly income to her love (Vesper)
>Uses her reward from a brand deal to go with Vesper on vacation
>Called Vesper on discord on his b-day after literally throwing up blood.
I don't understand how anybody could genuinely dislike her, wow

>>48421907
>your shitty parents
take a load of this son of rape lmfao
>>48421914
stop thinking about dicks anon, no one care about the fags

>>48421907
again i apologize that you got thrown out & forced to be independent at such a young age

>>48421947
Tell that to Kronii

>>48421847
t. Burger

>>48421947
Kronii has shitty parents listen to her talk about them for 5 minutes
>>48421956
I apologize that you still live with mommy and daddy as an adult

>>48421541
Male collaber.

>>48421847
I see, guess its an alien thing to westerners. I do know some countries that see that as a norm, still half of her paycheck is a bit too much.

>>48421541
>marks are Council -Fauna
Unfathomably based

>>48422004
no matter what they say 17-18 is not an adult....i apologize young man

>>48421541
>half the monthly income
That she's gotten by her fans, those same fans she time and time again shit on...
I wonder why many dislike her anon...

>>48422004
>Kronii has shitty parents listen to her talk about them for 5 minutes
nigger i did and she loves them
>>48422071
she never shit on her fans dramanigger

>>48421541
wow she's like 5 billion other people!!

>>48421541
those who are nice to their friends but an asshole to the waiter are not good people

>>48421541
>throwing up blood

She rly need to stop with her stupid diets

>>48422101
>nigger i did and she loves them
yeah and they're still shitty

>>48421541
The utter seethe on this board toward male collabers is abnormal. I'm going to blame Gura for this

>>48421541
Reminder of who we are dealing with.

>>48421705
Why would she need to support her parents financially?
How much of a shitty spot are they in if they need their daughter that is sub 30yo to support them?

Remember this clockcucks, a big % of your SC/merch money goes to her lazy parents and not her directly...

>>48422020
If she wanted to support her parents a little bit, there'd be nothing wrong with that. But half her paycheck? While raking in holo stacks? She should invest that money, since vtubing probably won't be a viable career till she gets to retire. Why are her shitty parents using up what should be their daughter's savings for the future?
>>48421974
I'm a euro.

>>48421907
>HE STILL THINKS U.S IS A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY
hahahahahahahaahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahaahhaahahhaahahahahaah

>The spirit of giving back
Kronii is such a sweet and caring darling that always looks after her loved ones. How is she so perfect? I love her so much bros like you wouldn't believe. She may a serial homo collaber but at least she remembers to take care of her most dedicated of fans. Plus, she's CUTE as hell.

I don't care if she's half-related to Jesus Christ and has the cure for cancer. I'm not watching her boring streams and I'm never gonna watch holostar with or without collabs with her.

>>48421541
Are her parents good people?
It all depends on this otherwise why should i care?

>using greentext on twitter
do cuckeronies really?

>>48421705
A lot of asian families are massive leeches that will demand any member who has any amount of success gives them free shit. Kronii is earning a lot of money, well over 100k a year there shouldn't be any reason she's giving them half her paycheck every month.

>>48422388
I thought there are some her family member that gone berserk or something, she was jokingly says that something bad will happen year ago

>>48422442
her step dad (or mom?) is a prick apparently

>>48422020
>I do know some countries that see that as a norm
Yeah shitholes like Africa that have crab in a bucket mentality. If your child hits it big and suddenly the parents quit their jobs and start asking for a cut they're shitty parents.

>>48421541
> apologize
No.

>>48421541
She's a good person to everyone except her fans

>>48421541
I thought parents were the ones supposed to provide income for their children not the other way around.

>>48422467
>Giving her stepdad 5k a month in reparations to stop him harassing her
holy kek, I almost feel sorry for the Kronester.

>>48421541
I'm sure she's a lovely person as are Mori and Bae but I'm still not interested in watching them

>>48422020
A ~30yo woman giving her parents half her salary is normal to you?

Let me guess your parents have 9 kids and dont work themselves only increasing the stack of kids as a source of more manpower?

>doing literally what any working adult with enough excess income would do for their parents
>and fuck me does Kronii have excess income for being lucky enough to get into Hololive
>Discord call

Americans getting kicked out of the house and disowned at 18 can't comprehend how other people don't mind supporting their families.

>>48422551
>doing literally what any working adult with enough excess income would do for their parents
I have literally never heard of any adult professional earning six figures sending half their pay back to their parents. What the fuck? She needs to invest that shit for her own retirement, not funding her parents.

>SEAnogs who live in slums and leech off each other can't comprehend first world countries

>>48421541
I can understand a little if your family members are ill/disabled or are down on their luck, but this sounds like rackteering

>>48422622
Are you assuming Kronii is thinking in long term scenarios?
Are we thinking of the same Kronii...?

I wonder if anyone in this thread is even Asian. Dude, we have a culture of giving back, and our parents usually will support us financially when we need them. Stop saying that her parents are leeches when you don't even know them.
t. Asian man

>>48421541
>I don't understand how anybody could genuinely dislike her, wow
How many times am I gonna say this...... She fucking baited, backtracked, then lied to her fans. She may be doing well right now with her vtuber activities and her fans, but that doesn't erase anything anon.

>>48422622
Do you guys not have generational stuff? You know, a house or a lot or property or something which you can then let your children inherit?
>>48422647
This mentality is very common in SEA and in Asia in general.

>>48422678
Isn't that why asian countries have historically always been shit and had to have white people lift them out of living in mudhuts?

>>48421541
didn't she move out of her old home because her father was abusive and didn't support what she was doing? she probably hates the fact that she's giving him half her earnings

>>48422678
50% is leeching when their kid aint even middle aged and her parents most certainly have work on their own.

If they were old and retired it would be different

>>48421907
I'm sorry you have shitty parents. Couldn't be me.

>>48422540
I literally said that giving her parents half of her salary is too much, retard.

>>Let me guess your parents have 9 kids and dont work themselves only increasing the stack of kids as a source of more manpower?

That would be Philippines and if I was from such family, I won't be spending time watching vtubers, let alone fuck around /vt.

here's some financial advice for the 3rd worlders in this thread, don't give half your fucking paycheck to your parents

>>48422765
around 25% is good no? I love my parents so........

>>48422678
But Kronii is canadian.

>>48422739
>Isn't that why asian countries have historically always been shit and had to have white people lift them out of living in mudhuts?
you are confusing asians with niggers anon.

>>48421541
It's a real shame she had to go ahead and ruin it by collabing with men.

>>48421541
>apologize
Why? She's still a dumbass.

>>48422787
Bro, it depends on you and your parents' financial situation. Don't listen to bozos on the Internet.
Give what you believe is the right amount.
There are people in this thread who are willing to throw their parents into a nursing home when they are old and can no longer support themselves. Pretty disgusting ngl

>>48422787
I'd rather put that shit in the bank but you seem more generous than me anon

>>48422803
What's the difference?

>>48422803
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangaku

>>48422731
If her dad is investing her money for her fair enough, but this thread makes it sound like her parents are just burning through her money. I don't watch her so who knows.

>>48421541
She chose cock over her fans and is being abused by her parents like every Asian girl.

I need to save her

>>48422787
Are your parents working adults?
If yes then they earn more than you with utmost certainty and you shouldnt give them stuff except for birthdays/holidays...

I'd be fkn embarrassed being the parent receiving monetary aid from ones kid when you arent in any actual problematic situation.

>>48421541
Vesper will leech half of her remaining wealth soon

>>48421836
She got surgery for her jaw right? How does that make you puke blood?

>>48422890
One assimilate other's culture and blames other asians for their fuck ups. Other steals culture of other countries and blame white people for their fuckups.

>>48422803
Literally most of China and SEA pre middle of 1900s were Africa tier anon...

>>48422904
Her parents are fine.
>>48422952
I dunno anon, they literally cut your face open when they do it so...

>>48422952
It's an heavy surgery, a week ago she was still speaking nasally because of the blood in her sinuses, we don't really know the procedure but she had to take out 2 wisdom teeth to get it.

>>48422929
YABA DABA DOO CONDOM MONEY

>>48421628
Not really on her but her parents.
This asian culture makes the children to NOT have their own family/kids.
t. asian who gives money to her parents once every month

>>48422952
She tried to deepthroat Vespers fat cock b4 she had properly healed after the surgery and accidents happened...

>>48422764
I'm a flip and I spend my time on /vt/ and vtubers kek.

>>48423016
Wtf literally holding back ones own kids from progress as adults...

Holy shit this fucking thread. No wonder Asian parents pressure their kids to be soulless and friendless as kids, dedicating every second to school/work. It's all so they can hopefully mooch off of them and they've got Stockholm Syndrome so bad that they call it "love" KEK

>Be asian
>Know if you succeed in life you'll be wage slaving to fund your parents retirement for the next 30 years
Jesas. No wonder so many asians are dipping out of society and NEETing it up. Fucking grim.

She cannot be forgiven for releasing the sicko g*be from her containment

>>48423016
Cut them off and find a nice husband, anon.

>>48423001
Drastic cosmetic surgery maybe? I can't think of an actual medical problem that would require butchering her face that much unless she had bone cancer or some freakish disease

>>48423176
Jawbone shaving. Extremely common in Korea.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-24/plastic-surgeon-faces-fine-for-jawbone-towers/5216220

>>48423176
It's TMJ.

>>48423235

>>48423235
I always feel sick when I see that.
But well they are good at their job.

>>48423240
>mfw i have TMJ

>>48423308
Can't argue with the results though.

>>48423363
Is it painful? Or is it something you can live with for the rest of your life?

>>48423235
Crazy how big those chunks are

>>48423387
Heard from a friend who had a similar that its painless. proly bullshit tho.

>>48421907
The problem is you think you give them the money so they can spend it; that's not the case (at least not the common one). Most of the time you do that because they are gonna save it better than yourself; it's a way to regulate your expenses (not everyone can do it, more so single women). You think the way you think because you are most likely american and over there parents hate their kids and kids hate their parents so much to the point they only see each other as disgusting subhuman parasites, and that's why parents pray every day for the kid to turn 18 and go away while the kid also prays for the same.
Just letting you know that's not the norm, that's just an american thing.

>>48423387
It hurts at times but for the most part it's something i can live with.
My dentist/doctor told me that it's not as bad so at worst i'd just have to use a teeth guard. Assuming it doesn't get worse when i'm older.

>>48423420
I wonder if you could get a surgeon to add them on to your jaw for a gigachad style jawline

>>48423446
>if you don't give half your income to your parents you hate them
Are all asians this retarded

>>48423463
Not that Anon but i already have an impressive jaw, one of my best features, so i'd hate to loose any part of it.

>>48423446
whatever muhammad congrats on being a fucking idiot

>>48423446
>Most of the time you do that because they are gonna save it better than yourself
>they are gonna save it
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>48421541
>parents
>s
What? Was the rrat bullshit about her dad being a cunt? Like wasn't there some issue where the police were called or was that like an uncle or something? I swear she had issues with her father.

>>48423446
If you're going to portray western families like that I could easily be cynical as well and say that asian parents view their children as an investment hence why they push so hard for good grades because it's their retirement fund. Think the shoe fits?

>>48423463
As long as you pay, Health complications aside; pretty sure there's some shady doctor who would do that.

>>48423446
>they are gonna save it better than yourself
So you flat out admit you guys do it because you're stupid

>>48423589
In general old people will save more than a woman in her 20s, yes

>>48423446
>Most of the time you do that because they are gonna save it better than yourself
Do you actually think that giving free money to your parents is a good investment? Just how retarded are you?

>>48423537
If that's what you understood from what I said I don't think there's any point going further. It's clear you only want to reply snarky shit because you're most likely underage. Enjoy your culture of family hatred ouroboros.
>>48423622
I didn't say "western", I said "american". It's something you see in america. In europe, south america, etc that's not the norm at all.

>>48423653
>In general
Not on my 3rd world asian shithole they don't. Majority spends it like their kids are piggy banks with consistent flow of money.

hit a nerve huh

>>48423064
You can thank Confucius for this one

>>48423680
>you see it in america
>it's something I saw on TV once
Riveting social commentary.

>>48423800
>Lived there
>Have family there
>Spend a lot of time there
whatever helps you sleep tight at night bud.

>>48421541
>Give over half her monthly income to her parents
You know most asian does this right? Even me, it not an obligation we just feeling grateful to our parent. Maybe for burgerland or leaf it consider abnormal. Half my paycheck goes to my parent even when they don't want it and my father still would buy me food whenever we go out to eat together, it just normal to him.

>>48423867
you either have really good parents or you are completely brainwashed

>>48421541
>Gives over half her monthly income to her parents
she's supposed to do that
>called friends after throwing up blood
just spitted some blood after going to the dentist noting special
>I don't understand why people dislike her
maybe because she was a lying whore? or because she threw her fans under the bus and let them get shat on by everyone? maybe because after this she went and played the victim? yeah I can't figure out why someone would hate that talentless bitch

>>48421628
If you can't even nice to your parent then you probadly can't nice to anyone

>>48423953
I can be nice to my parents without cutting them a check for half my pay every month thank you very much

>>48423867 me
If i found a marriage partner, in a long distance job or buy a new home only then i would reduce my monthly income for them but never outright stop it.

This entire thread is one big East vs West culture clash. Kek.

>>48423867
>my father still would buy me food whenever we go out to eat together, it just normal to him.
Of course it does he's using YOUR fucking money to buy it lmao

>>48424028
Exaclty, this thing is more nuanced. There's both pros and cons to both sides

>>48424005
no wonder why amerimutt "civilization" is falling apart

>>48423867
Still, half the monthly salary? I tried giving just that to my parents several times in the past and they instead chewed me out for giving them "alot". At best they are happy if you give them like a sack of rice and maybe some groceries, even with the current state of the economy, that doesn't even hit a quarter of my salary.

I WILL marry kronii and save her from her leech parents

>>48424067
I think Kronii just loves her parents a lot and there's obviously a lot of missing context here but people would fill it in regardless and argue about it like autists are wont to do

>>48424063
Nigga all of SEA combined is poorer and shittier than even the worst US state who the fuck do you think you're kidding?

>>48424137
>there's obviously a lot of missing context here
This is /vt. What did you expect?

>>48424038
He didn't take my money because he still working and he doesn't want to. I gave to my mother and help with family utility bil.

>>48421695
>step parents
oh ho, her life is actually porn

>>48424067
Well im staying with them, half doesn't mean monetarily but paying for bill and spending for them, gift, going out somewhere. My mother would take my money but my dad wouldn't and it understandable.

Half is definitely too much, but do anons really have such shitty parents that they wouldn't make sure they have comfortable lives at least once they retire? They've let me be aneet so often that I honestly would give my parents 500-1k a month if I had kroniis income even if I didn't live with them.

>>48423235
Ooh potato wedges

>>48422442
>>48422467
>>48422530
>parents are korean immigrants aka very conservative
>their daughter drops out of College to pursuit VA, threatening financial future
>daughter is a closet dyke, being an only child she is threatening the familys future with a lack of heir
Her dad probably wanted her dead
>vchubbing rakes in six figures
and then started warming up to her again

>>48424348
some of us aren't so fortunate anon

>>48424368
As long as she keeps the cash flowing they're fine with it. And the asia cucks in the thread are saying this culture is a good thing, what a fucking joke.

>>48423363
Same.
>>48423387
NTA and I can live with mine, but let me explain a little;
For me, it comes suddenly and then slowly fades over several weeks until it's completely dormant and waiting to be reactivated on random.

And yes, very painful while its active, at times impossible to chew, and can also dislodge my normal jaw placement so the bite doesnt line up. It's like my entire jaw is inflamed, broken, and fucked up.

I'm glad it's seems to be rare for me, because Ive only had it bad twice and only on one side. Some people have it bad constantly though. That must be hell.
I wonder if it was like that for Kronii, if her surgery really was for TMJ

>>48421541
Are her parents disabled or something?

>>48424187
The currency value suck but that doesn't mean their lifestyle got affected by it, most people living in sea could still eat 3 meal a day and have a roof on their head, i can't say for burgerland though. I saw a burger talking how he live in indonesia for 2 years only with 20k USD, he living modestly and fishing.

>>48424411
>And the asia cucks in the thread are saying this culture is a good thing, what a fucking joke.
I really don't get how they can see it as a good thing, when it's the same kind of shit that goes on in tribal Africa. Someone does anything good, makes any money, and all of a sudden their family is there for a handout.

>>48423616
>Was the rrat bullshit about her dad being a cunt? Like wasn't there some issue where the police were called or was that like an uncle or something? I swear she had issues with her father.
She talked about a male relative being abusive towards everyone else in the family but she kept it intentionally vague as to who it is
Some people assumed it's her dad because she frequently mentioned her mom but never him, others assume it's an uncle who pressures both her parents into giving him money and even has violent episodes
Older brother or cousin are options as well but seem less likely since the abusive person is probably an older man. In the end we can only speculate, she doesn't want to reveal any solid information on him since that person knows about her vtuber persona and could react violently if he sees her call him out

>>48421541
Why should I care about her parents?
All she need to do is invest this money in quality content not family

>>48424187
>our society and values are rapidly falling apart. B-but at least we have money!!!

>>48421541
>Don't you have female friends?

>>48424560
>All she need to do is invest this money in quality content
this but with Gura

>>48424594
Money is what keeps every society running yes

>>48424594
Christ will win in the end. Don't worry about our Christian culture, it has survived worse threats than the troons.

>>48422952
I'd post actual surgical pictures, but that would get me banned, so use your imagination on how recovery would be a bitch when they have to cut open your face and cut out part of your jaw.

>>48424599
i still can't believe she's that retarded and tone def, but then again she is woman so i guess it's natural

Holy shit this thread turned into a battle between the east and the west. This is funny as fuck.

>>48424594
>our society and values are rapidly falling apart.
The West has not had this retarded theft of your childrens' wealth for half a millennium at least.
This retarded culture is one of the reasons why (You)r personal shithole will never amount to anything even close to the West's heyday.

>>48424599
>there are people who unironically felt threatened by this comment

>>48421541
don't care still will shit on her to my death
TOTAL KRONIIE DEATH!

>>48423235
>>48423308
Why would french fries make you sick?
I want some now.

How about your Asian moms get a job instead of just spreading their legs.

desu I'd rather live in SEA than the American southern states

>>48421541
This thread become retarded just because people give money to their parent like normal human being.

>>48422020
>call it a norm
>agrees half is too much
decide you fucktard, she is not a 40yo OL taking care of her elderly parents, those motherfuckers are probably just entering their 50s now and relaying this much on their daughter

>>48421628
it's code for giving half to vesper duh,
he's the man of the house
like any pimp

>>48424710
>normal human being
The child giving to the parent is a perversion of nature and all that is just. Parents are the ones who should give to their children and ensure their futures are the best they can have.
Taking money from your children is like treating your own progeny as cattle.

>>48424711
Nta, half is too much for some but if you live with your parents. It doesn't seem much when you spending on utility bills, grocery, and future mortgage.

>>48424673
You used to before the industrial revolution happened

>>48424673
>This retarded culture is one of the reasons why (You)r personal shithole will never amount to anything even close to the West's heyday.

ah yes such wonders like jew owned mega corporations or culturally enriched neighborhoods, drag festivals for kids and troons on the education system, yeah such a shame my shthole of a country will never reach such staus!

>>48424772
>is a perversion of nature
what is humans
>>48424703
only difference between Louisiana and Ghana is Louisiana has decent food

>>48421705
Psychopath parents.

Relying this much on your children is unnatural, raise the kid to 18 then kick them out.

>>48424844
>what is humans
A part of nature, no matter how much egoistic morons and overgrown children try to pretend otherwise.

>>48424772
Most people give out of love not obligation, and most parents doesn't even want it but their children will still insist in some other way, meal, gift or paying utility.

>>48424866
shut the fuck up retard

>>48424696
never forgive, never forget

Saving this dogshit thread with kromei porn

>>48423016
Why? I give money for rent and it's cheaper than actual rent, but my family have always emphasised I save my money for shit I need where they outright say "when I'm gone" or "I won't be around forever". They even stopped charging me rent when I lost my job a while back and only restarted after I got work again.

Just curious but did you also have to learn the violin, do gymnastics and have a bunch of other things pushed on you? I get wanting your kid to have some hobbies I wish my parents pushed me into a few of them or were more supportive in things I showed an itnerest in, but with asians t just seems expensive and like they drive their kids to hate those hobbies.
Asian family dynamics is fucking weird to me.

>>48424875
>Most people give out of love not obligation
Kind of rude of you to insinuate Westerners don't love their parents. Have you ever been to the West?

>>48424866
That's fucked up, is that really the norm? And why 18 specifically, isn't it better if they've actually graduated college and is financially ready and capable?

>>48424889
beautiful ~

>>48424893
well at least she's good for one thing

>having kids just so you can bum off of them

>>48424772
>didn't live with multigenerational family
enjoy death anon

>>48424893
Kromei is such a lame ship I hate that it's her most popular one only because it was forced around the time of their debut and now all the people on twitter think it's canon because they don't watch streams
Kronii and IRyS get so wet for each other every time they interact they deserve more lewds of them together

>>48424912
>Westerners don't love their parents
But they don't

>>48424912
>Kind of rude of you to insinuate Westerners don't love their parents.
No, i said most people doesn't mean all but generally most people showing their love to their parent this way. Are you saying all westerner doesn't do this?

>>48424903
Because despite all the bullshitting over Confucian "filial piety" ultimately it's just the parents treating their children like they're a retirement plan. There's nothing more to it than that.

>>48424772
Holy shit anon that's unironically a scary pic. Source?

If my parents have raw creampie sex and I’m born nine months later, that’s their fault and I’m not responsible for helping them.

Woah, westerners sure are weird, we don't treat family like this.

>>48425081
Oh yea, shitty ones do. Smart ones build up generational wealth and let their children inherit houses, property, and businesses

>>48424772
>treating your own progeny as cattle.
guaranteed this occurs in nature if you look hard enough

From the perspective of most of the rest of the world both stereotypical American-style parenting where the kid is expected to fuck off after a certain age and stereotypical Asian-style parenting where the kid is expected to be a slave to the family for the rest of their life come across as completely insane. Neither implies any mutual respect or love between parent and child.

>>48424919
They are legally an adult at 18 and will finish high school around that age. If they want to go to college then they can live in the dorm.

>>48425096
>i din't ask to be bornnnnn! fuck you mom fuck you dad

>Wagie it's time for your monthly stipend for popping you out my vagina 25 years ago!

>>48425096
>that’s their fault
you're right, you were a mistake

>>48425071
Of course not. Money isn't love, and giving someone money isn't any kind of worthwhile expression of love. Giving someone money as an expression of "love" is a stereotypical sign of emotional immaturity, an inability to express emotions and an inability to actually express love. It's a red flag of generations of intergenerational trauma and neglect of emotions that leads to shit like that.
Man, you Easterners really are cold.

>>48425149
>stereotypical American-style parenting where the kid is expected to fuck off after a certain age
This wasn't the case until the boomers who they themselves lived with their parents but told their own kids to fuck off, they fucked up the west so bad it's almost incomprehensible how bad it is

>>48421541
>no receipts
>no photo proof of blood
Fake news

>>48421541
Why I have female friends?

If you are more successful than your parents and have money to spare to give them a better life, why not?

You asians are such fags, don’t you have any pride or was it beaten out of you as a child?

>>48425332
They literally wouldn't accept it.

>>48425332
That's the idea

>>48425225
Wtf is wrong with burger? Giving money doesn't have some sort of philosopher meaning, you just do it or don't out of your own free will.

>>48425382
>>48425225
>>48424772
Fauna almost certainly gives money to her parents

i make more money than both my parents combined and they get offended when I suggest I can chip in to buy groceries and pay my part of bills. Asian parents, not even once.

>>48425364
oh yeah ''pride'', you mean like this?

>>48425382
Did you think most people just give them cold hard cash, just do the usual way, give them gift, going eat with them and pay for their utility bills.

>>48424761
She calls him daddy.

>>48421541
>give her parents
>fuck up multiple oppertunities that would have earned you even more money and activley do things that sink your entire career

>>48425518
Exact same thing.
>pay for their utility bills.
Lmao, as if. Might as well suggest that pigs fly.

I do not understand for the life of me why people hate Kronii. I haven't watched vtubing in months and only see the clips the algorithm shoves into my throat, but when I was watching Kronii, she legit looks like she has a mental illness. Maybe even autism.
She also looks low key depressed. and she sounds really, really lonely.
And she acts like a millennial who spent most of her life on the internet. I don't know if she's a zoomer to be honest.

She literally is /vt/ personified, but a woman. Why do you hate her apart from things she said that were obviously of what an average mentally unwell woman would say without malice

A man has made at least a start on discovering the meaning of human life when he plants shade trees under which he knows full well he will never sit.

>>48425332
In a lot of cases Asians do not actually give money to their families, rather they are conditioned to simply let their families take money from them.

>>48425573
I mean, I really can't fathom it. Unicorns hate her, but LOOOOVE Fauna who is mentally stable and sane because certain someone in her life takes care of her emotional needs?
Kronii is obviously not well. Look at how she loves that powerwash simulator game

>>48425638
Same shit in Sub-Saharan Africa. Ask anyone there and they'd say it's "impossible" to refuse. They just see it as a matter of fact.

>>48425158
But it's still your kid...? That doesn't stop when they're adults. What if they struggle or fuck up or something? Also, why kick them out, what if it's a more financially smart idea to let them stay longer if they do want to go to college or because the job they have is near your home?

>>48423016
paying rent to live with your parents isnt an asian exclusive thing anon.

>>48425573

>>48421628
I'm sorry You are an orphan

>rare Captcha: PAGSMG

>>48425573
that's the thing when she debuted everyone thought that she was relatable to some extent so people thought she could understand how they felt. the so when she told them to fuck off they got heart broken and now hate her

>>48425821
fucking typo. i need a new keyboard

>>48425573
>/vt/ personified,
>you don't have female friends?

>>48425821
telling fags to fuck off is pretty relatable desu

>>48425573
I think people already explain, main point nobody care about male collab but people hate liar especially when they promise and lie to them less than 24 hours. Shouldn't promise anything then.

>>48425946
sure thing, telling the people that pay your bills to fuck off is a great idea, surely it wouldn't affect her

It's called having a good enough relationship with your parents to the point where there's no my money your money, just money in the family.
People think it's normal to give half your assests to your spouse, some rando you met, but oh no watch out for mom leeching!

>>48425691
American's hate their kids and want them out as soon as possible. American kids hate their parents so they want out as soon as possible.
It's exactly the premise this thread derived on above. They hate each other and gulp the hate to meet once a year for thanksgiving, and those are the ones who hate each other the least.

>>48423953
not all parents are good parents
even then you don't get force life onto someone and then force them into a debt by having them pay you money in return even though you were only a child and thus couldn't pay yourself.
that's just horrible

>>48424889
Give them what they fucking deserve

I can't understand why people so offended with what kronii does, but again I'm on /vt/ where most people post here either manchild or genuine zoomer

Never watched Kronii, what are the things she lied about? Why is she so hated?

>>48425028
gotchu senpai

>>48425991
this, i didn't care a rat's ass who she collabed with I just hated her yaaas boss bitch attitude towards the fans and the final nail was her playing victim when people call her on her bullshit

>>48425662
If you would step away from this retarded "unicorn vs. anti-unicorn" larp and actually paid attention to what average people were saying rather than fighting some holy war in bait threads on 4channel you would know that most people who dislike her were just turned off by her attitude and personality and didn't really care about the homo collabs as long as it didn't fuck with other content.
Which it did. I didn't lose interest in Kronii or Ame when they started doing homo stuff. I wasn't going to watch it, but I don't watch every stream from them anyway. I lost interest when I was watching one of their other streams I was interested in and they started bickering with the vocal minority of their audience who were screeching about the male collabs.
I suspect there's a lot more of me than the fabled "unicorn," people who just want comfy anime girl streams without the arguing with and talking down to a small segment of the audience.
I watch streams to get away from the real world and stupid drama. If I want that, I'll come to /vt/

>>48423446
>giving it to your parents instead of an investor
>giving it to your parents instead of putting it into a savings account or a passbook

Why do we have a bunch of SEA defending a Korean here?

>>48426027
This, i dunno what with burger and their mentality, even European have family bond that help each other out, either obligation or just want to do it out of their own goodness.

>>48426133
hot

>>48425991
fk that i didn't like it, but was ok when she was willing to listen and compromise , then she did a about face and shate on everything, so fk her

>>48425991
>>48425930
>>48426156
As I said, don't get why you're offended.
She's obviously not malicious. She looks like the type to say stupid shit because shes mentally ill.
At the end of the day, she's the most relatable out of all the ENs other than Gura. Kronii is LITERALLY /vt/. People here say shit they don't actually mean all the time

Look, that's just me.

>>48424875
Yeah, because a lot of people and especially women have Stockholm and interpret their parents' treating them like shit and abusing them for hard love.

>>48425991
>Promise
She said she wouldn't interact with them much on twitter, because she barely uses twitter. At no point did she say she would NEVER interact with them on twitter. That 'promise' literally only exists in your head.

>>48426291
She is nothing "like" /vt/. Actual /here/ streamers and people who pretty much impersonify this board would not say something as detached from this board's culture like that. That whole idea you're presenting is completely ridiculous.

>>48426131
she promised to not collab or even interact with the homos but couldn't resist Vesper's cock, then she promised to just make some homo collabs on rare occasions and again she lied and threw a tantrum where she went full "i do what i want bitchhh!. i remember she also made some promises that never fulfilled back when she debuted but i don't really remember them

Today I found out that asians are giving half of their money to fully able-bodied adults that are supposed to be in better financial standing and support them instead.
t. europoor from one of those "conservative" countries. Yes, we'd support our parents if they are sick or are super old, but my parents are still giving me some cash on Christmas, despite me getting double the national average. They'd be pissed and would think that I take them as a retards if I wanted to give them my money

>>48426180
You don't understand my point.
My point is, people who actually want streams that YOU JUST REFERRED TO in your post, then go for people like Fauna, or Mumei because they're actually socially (and hence) mentally adjusted. Look, you know what I mean.
But unicorns and or many gachikois look for lonely, mentally unstable women who obviously have personality problems. It's contradictory.

>>48426291
she spends so much time on the internet and memes.
doesn't know what you say and do as a persona is remembered forever,
dumb bitch
still waiting on her downfall to onlyfans, which seems to be getting closer by the months

>>48425573
I can't stand people like her who join/become something they absolutely loathe, to include hating the fans of said thing. She belongs in Niji or Vshoujo

>>48426437
i agree, mori and her should just leave and join that shitfest
she'll be happier and we all will be happier too that EN3 can finally happen

>>48426345
Reading comprehension.
She IS /vt/ personified. I never said she was /here/. I said she's the most relatable to /vt/ users of all in EN. If she was, then she wouldn't be this naive and stupid, not to mention carefree.
Fauna is /here/, but is probably the least relatable to people here out of all of them.

>>48426498
honestly i fear that in EN3 we get another mori or kronii

>>48426405
do not google "philippines remittance gdp share"

>>48426523
You are projecting your own experiences and mistaking it for the norm. (You) relate to Kronii.

>>48426576
Mabuhay ang Republika ng Pilipinas!

>>48426415
>>48426437
>>48426498
>meanwhile in holojp, you can spend 15 dollars to watch a knight suck a dildo and rub her pussy.

>>48426608
KSon?
many keks

>>48426405
>giving half of their money
Not everyone give half, but almost everyone give something even if it a small token of appreciation.

>>48426291
>Kronii is LITERALLY /vt/
You are yet to explain how.

>>48421541
>lives at home
>pays rent
>superchats dried up so now rent is half her income
>uses discord to talk to troons so they don’t 41%
Big fucking deal, no one cares. Let them die and move out you loser.

Culture exchange thred

>>48426406
It's not contradictory. You've just made the assumption that unicorns and gachikoi are as a general rule attracted to unstable women when that's not necessarily the case. (Maybe unicorns more so but I still don't believe true unicorns are common at all, at least in the West)
It could be that unstable women are more likely to give them what they're looking for, which would perfectly explain Fauna and Mumei.
It could also be that stable creators a lot more gachi than you realize but they're less vocal because the target of their affection is more likely to burst their bubble.
You've got to understand that gachikoi are inherently embracing fantasy, either knowingly or through delusion. I don't see any reason why that category of fan being attached to the seemingly mentally healthy girl who regularly whispers into a KU100 without openly breaking the fantasy on stream is a contradiction.

>>48426276
>spend the entirety of her break calling her every insult under the sun, sending death threats, hoping she kills herself, hoping she graduates, attacking anybody who mentions her, and basically following the same guidebook as the chinks
>"wow wtf guys why did she drop her promises she isnt compromising anymore wtf :("

>Be Japanese
>Wake up and ride overfilled train with other Japs
>Work 12 hours in black company
>After work be forced to drink and listen to your boss as to not disrespect him and lose your job
>Get back to your tiny apartment and sleep on the floor
>Wake up next day with half your money gone to your parents, other half taken by taxes and a debt at the place you drunk with your boss
And people wonder why high schools, isekai and idols are so popular in japan

>>48425573
Because this happened

>>48426824
Nice fanfic.

>>48426602
Not really.
I'm pretty sure majority of people here are as mentally ill, unstable, lonely, depressed, and have sad circumstances like Kronii does.

Why, you think people here relate to Fauna or something? That is hilarious.

>Give half of her paycheck
Don't her parents or siblings have jobs? Like, I give a little to my parents every month, because at the moment my father and my brother are unable to find work and my mother just doesn't want to get a job because she's "too old" and does the house chores, so the burden is put on me for the time being. But half on her salary is borderline parasitic! That's money she could have put aside for children or a house or new equipment for her job or literally anything else. Doesn't help that's she's not even good at the one thing idols are supposed to do (which is shilling stuff). Kronners...you're being fleeced by your own family.

>>48426824
the thing is that she first broke her promises and then got shat on (mainly here or on literal who's account's on twatter) so it's not quite like the zhangs

>>48423446
>>48423680
>It's clear you only want to reply snarky shit because you're most likely underage.
Most self aware schizo
>Captcha: RAWSV

>>48422764
>That would be the Philippines
I never gave my parents money. Thankfully enough, they never asked for it either. Of course I took them out to dinner or something every once in a while, but that's as far as it goes

>>48426951
>Don't her parents
ESL Korean immigrants
>or siblings
only child

>>48426951
Her parents cant be that old and they also live in Canada with plenty of social safety nets.
To me it legit just seems like leeching...

>>48426691
Please see my posts above

>>48426824
>>>
>>48426858

>>48426974
She didn't make any promises, you imagined them up

>>48426942
>I'm pretty sure
And that's your problem. You are sure about something that's little more than your own projections.
>mentally ill, unstable, lonely, depressed, and have sad circumstances like Kronii does.
None of those are what's the cause of Kronii's personality and actions. None of them excuse her or make her represent /vt/ in any way or form. (You) literally just relate to her, almost certainly because you share roughly similar personalities.

>Why, you think people here relate to Fauna or something? That is hilarious.
Why, yes. Fauna's character is vastly more relateable to me than Kronii's is. How did you know?

>>48426942
we love Fauna cause she makes cute noises and has fun.
that's all we need =)
we love you Fauna just stay cute on stream

>>48426951
She is literally doing this>>48425332.
She used to live with her parents but moved to a place on her own.

>>48425332
If you are more successful than your parents and have money to spare, why not invest that money for your own children's future?

>>48427113
>Why, yes. Fauna's character is vastly more relateable to me than Kronii's is. How did you know?
because you're gay and have a boyfriend

>>48427093
>"guys i won't collab or interact with the homos on twitter"
yeah must have been the wind

>>48427164
>has a kid
>has to leave Hololive
Is this what you want?

>>48427164
Why not do both? There's no need for it to be exclusive. You can better your parents and your children's life

>>48424673
As shown by history, economic progress between the Eastern and Western Hemispheres has always been like a wheel. Sometimes the West is on the upper side of the wheel and the East is down. Sometimes, it's vice versa.
During the Classical Era, the West was prosperous.
During the Dark Ages and the Medieval Ages, it was the East.
During the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution, and the early Modern Era, the West was on top again, thanks to a combination of a young population, cheap labor due to the effective doubling of the workforce because women started getting jobs, and industrial innovation.
Now East is rising on the wheel again, simply because it has the aforementioned young population, cheap labor, and industrial innovation. This post is not to gloat, but rather to talk about how things are. Simple as. Pic mostly unrelated

>>48427207
Yes.

>>48427261
Nice fantasy, bro.
>This post is not to gloat, but rather to talk about how things are. Simple as
It's a complete thirdie fantasy of what you hope is in your future, with zero bearing on reality.

I would never accept half of my child's income, that's fucking embarrasing holy shit. The absolute state of Kronii's parents

>>48423363
TMJ symptoms and treatment vary widely.
Hers were pretty bad.

>>48422904
Boros is leaking member content, which pisses me off, but she isn't just giving it to her parents she has siblings too.

>>48427126
Look man, we can disagree, we can disagree. I just don't get it. The hate for Kronii isn't commensurate to what she deserves. That's it. We all make mistakes. In this case I don't think she hates her fans, I just think she's dumb and mentally ill, hence said words she didn't mean to say, IN THAT WAY.

As I said, that's just me.

>>48427113
First of all, that is not a projection. A mere cursory reading of /vt/ confirms this.

Second, it doesn't excuse them, but it's reason as to why you should understand why she did it. At the end of the day, she did no explicit, physical action to hurt anybody other than wrong words said

Third, so she's relatable to you. That's great, semi-normalfag. But you are a needle on a haystack of all the fans here on /vt/ and of Hololive.

>>48422678
Is this why your birthrates are so high?

>>48427339
Okay, live in your own version of reality then. I'm afraid I can't help you understand any further
>t. ADB economist

>>48427491
t. Eastern inferiority complex manifest

>>48424893
>thread limit hit and didnt get deleted
meidos=gaydos

>>48423116
Kronii jokes about never being able to own a home and working until she's 80. It's great that she cares about her family and she obviously doesn't come from money like half of the other girls, but this is too much.

>>48427448
>First of all, that is not a projection. A mere cursory reading of /vt/ confirms this.
A cursory reading confirms that you are projecting, and the majority of /vt/ are in fact not in accordance to your own experience.
>Second, it doesn't excuse them, but it's reason as to why you should understand why she did it.
No, it's not. The reason why she did it is due to her personality, not mental illness or anything of the sort. That much is apparent.
>Third, so she's relatable to you.
Just like Kronii is relatable to you. It's almost like you're projecting your own personal experience onto the board as a whole.
>That's great, semi-normalfag.
Tell me, why do you think I am a normalfag? Because I don't agree with what you use to excuse Kronii's behavior?

>>48427261
I think East and West is comparable to each other during the Classical Era, the rest are right but I dunno about that last part
>>48427459
East Asia has declining populations, South and South East Asia doesn't

>>48423176
TMJ surgery her jaw was misaligned and she also has/had a teeth grinding problem.

>>48427339
>If people invite me for things I won't refuse it, but I'm not gonna initiate the collabs. Nor am I going to interact with them in public - maybe drop by the stream and go "oh hey, nice." - but like not really on Twitter cause I don't really use Twitter that often anyway
She specifically said she would keep doing those collabs and interacting with them

>>48427505
The last thing I'll tell you is to check out our studies on the projected economic growth of the entire Asian region. Not just ASEAN, but East and South Asia as well.
>>48427612
It's more of a 75/25 chance of happening, but the trajectory seems to be pointing toward 75 percent happening in the next 3 to 5 decades. Especially if China's population crash happens early and all manufacturing from that country is shifted to places like Vietnam, Cambodia, Bangladesh, and Myanmar/Burma.

>>48425332
The country I'm from does things differently. If you're not dating, you give money to your parents, but once you start dating you have to give all that money you'd normally give your parents to your girlfriend. I'm not sure how widespread this is but I was even able to find a news article about it.

>>48427697
>our studies
I'm sure they're totally reliable and not biased at all by your perpetual inferiority complex and signaling of how implessive you are, and how totally ready you are to challenge your superiors (Whites).

>>48421541
Shitty Asian culture. I'm Asian and when you're well-off, and single, family members even from the extended family would contact you and ask for 'help'. They often start with "Hey, how are you?". Then they will tell you a soap opera drama version of their life. The ones I hate the most were the liars who would ask for help to pay medicine and medical bills then buys stuff very unrelated to their health. So yeah Kronii is bound to be forever poor, with the Canada's shitty tax and economy and family culture.

>>48423616
It's her older brother, actually.

>>48427448
never trust or forgive a two face bitch
that's all chads need to know.
once a lying whore always a lying whore,
can't even play a character.

>>48427751
Whites will barely exist in a few generations, no one cares

>>48427782
>chad
>browses anime image board
you will literally never have sex

>>48427787
Ah yeah, I'm sure you'll make your fantasies of a multipolar world come true.

>>48427782
true

>>48424368
She's an aunt already. I don't think her parents are pressuring her to marry.

>>48427751
All right then. Though to be honest with you, we've already put aside some money to give out as loans to countries within the EU and the Americas in the next few decades in expectation of falling economic growth. Make that what you will

>>48427824
kek i can easily pay whores for a quick fuck
a lard bitch like you will never get one
if your a faggot, even worst i don't respect anyone who can't bench at least 80kg

>>48427903
>expectation of falling economic growth
How's you local AI programs doing?

>>48427757
I fucking hate these "family kinship" guilt tripping and emotional black mail.

She could be exaggerating the amount to fish sympathy.

>>48427918
>paying for sex
embarrassing

>>48428024
yeah, rape is the way to go

>>48421541
She had the audacity to tell creeps that they don't own the women who work as v-tubers. The bleak mind of a basement-sociopath literally doesn't care about anything else.

How did you faggots manage to turn this thread into geopolitical garbage? Your cultures don't mean shit. Post huge tits right now.

>>48428068
Rape your whore mother instead you useless Albanian

>>48428139
>Post huge tits
Your wish is my command.

>>48427757
That just your family anon sound the same as burger too.

>>48426229
Nice falseflag SEAchaama.

>>48428196
Thank you anon let's flood this thread, it needs cleansing

>>48428196
Vesper is so lucky bros...

>>48428240

>>48428243
>Vesper is so lucky
Yeah man, I'm Vesper yabba dabba do and all that jazz post more tits

>>48428325
and a yabba dabba to you my nigglet

>>48426345
What?

>ywn bury yourself in Kronii's kronies
why live

>>48426855
When was the last time Mori did something good?

kronii pits!

>>48427261
>Now East is rising on the wheel again, simply because it has the aforementioned young population, cheap labor, and industrial innovation.
China is demographically, ecologically and economically fucked. Their entire rise is due to western government outsourcing, and IP theft. Now they have a middle class, automation is taking factory jobs, more graduates than existing jobs, etc.
No one is rising here, everyone is fucked. SEA countries like Vietnam are also fucked due to China controlling the river they depend on, and encroaching into their territory for fishing. Add in issues with erosion and rising sea levels fucking up crops and again there is no real bright future there.

If I had to pick a region with a future it would be Canada simply due to having a decent amount of clean water and lower population density, same as Russia with Siberia.

>>48427768
Everyone ITT says she's an only child.

>>48428543
when she took care of mr.sparkles

>>48428608
>same as Russia with Siberia.
China has already begun renaming some Siberian towns to their Chinese names. I wouldn't count on that.

>>48428620
Touché, I didnt think of that you win this time Anon!

>>48428608
To be honest with you, that's the 25 percent I was talking about with the other anon earlier. Water wars between China and its other neighbors (like India) are flashpoints we're keeping an eye on. They're more likely to happen than anything on the Taiwan Strait
Though on the bright side, we're also expecting that before automation fully sets in, manufacturers would rather hire cheap labor in Asia in the short to medium term because of public backlash and the expenses associated with increased automation. By the time automation has fully set in the West, the East already has a bedrock of that too (to sustain itself economically). Though personally, I think it will cause unrest in heavily populated countries like India, the Philippines, and Indonesia, but the pain is short term at best (less than a year), and medium term (2 to 3 years) at worst.

>>48428755
China will just ruin the ecosystem and kick the can at best, they can't manage sustainability for shit.

>>48427606
Well, at this point, you believe what you feel you believe. There is no point to respond since you are purposely being obtuse at this point if you honestly believe that most people on here arent socially maladjusted and inept, lonely, spent their lives on the internet, mentally unstable, etc

I'm not gonna expend time on this.

>>48428880
>socially maladjusted and inept, lonely, spent their lives on the internet, mentally unstable, etc
None of that is relevant to Kronii's actual personality and her actions. You are projecting your own personality and mistaking it for those things you listed. Your personality is shit. It's not the problems you have that are the problem there, it's your actual character, your nature, your personality that is rancid.

>>48421541
I thought she hated her parents? Wasn't that the reason she moved out? Why is she giving her parents half of her paycheck?

>>48428872
We are all kicking the can down the road. Modern global civilization is not sustainable in the least, due to the energy sources its complexity is built on being non-renewable. Renewables can't even sustain baseload, never mind provide the kind of cheap cargo that our entire system is dependent on. Let's not even talk about soil erosion and collapse in biodiversity, fertilizer shortages.

>>48428931
That is relevant. Pretending otherwise that she isn't that just by watching her streams is just funny to me.
Look, I've watched this woman since debut before I stopped watching chuuba streams (for months now, see above).
Whatever. This is a pointless affair.
And it makes it funnier when "you" tried to represent yourself as the common /vt/ man/woman while at the same time say you relate to Fauna.

It makes me sad that I'm a NEET fuck-up due to crippling autism, because I have excellent parents and they deserve to have a normal son that isn't a waste of oxygen

>>48429138
And the pandemic and the war accelerated it, any more globally destabilizing shit and goodbye modern world

>>48429244
same, I already tried to get a job and fucked it up thrice

>>48429175
>That is relevant. Pretending otherwise that she isn't that just by watching her streams is just funny to me.
There are plenty of severely mentally ill streamers who do not act anything like Kronii does. Her actions that anons find despicable are 100% her own personality's fault, and not the fault of her mental illness. The obvious reason why you fail to recognize this is because you share those personality traits with her, and are likely just as despicable.
>And it makes it funnier when "you" tried to represent yourself as the common /vt/ man/woman
No. That is entirely your own delusion once again. You are tilting at windmills.
>while at the same time say you relate to Fauna.
And why would I not relate more to her than
>YoU DoNT haVE FeMAlE FrIEnDS?
Kronii? Can you imagine Fauna making a faux pas like that?

>>48421541
I always liked Kronii, even the "don't you guys have female friends?" moment was endearing because it didn't come off as a dig, I think she was really unaware. Someone who assumed the best of her fanbase even in the face of the autism she was dealing with at the time is a good person in my book.

>>48429273
I for one am looking forward to becoming a subistence farmer. My time spent watching Minecraft streams is about to pay off.

>>48428223
>That just your family anon
I also hear a lot of these stories from SEA. It's definitely an Asian problem from Middle and Lower Class families.