/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48321956
>have no haters
Of course not. All chuubas have haters. Even fucking Watame who is an angel in human form has haters.

>>48321956
Indies nobody knows about

>>48321956
Fauna comes pretty close

>>48321956
Why should you care what other people think? Kronii is cute and fun to watch. Just watch what you like

>>48322049
*sheep form

>>48321956
Saruei and Veibae

>>48322049
how could anyone hate this pure little lamb?

>>48322435
>>48322502
NTR

>>48322857
How can anyone hate any chubba?
Mental illness.

>>48321956
If I knew of one, why would I tell vt about her? That'd be like burning the garden of Eden.

>>48323550
Correct, but sadly, there are many such cases. Also, people whose oshi is vt, which is equally crazy.

>>48321956
man she would have been perfect if tempus didn't happen
I will never forgive management for hiring males and letting them collab with Kronii

>>48322860
elaborate

>>48324710
NTA, but it's widely claimed that Fauna has a boyfriend. I'm guessing that's what they had in mind

>>48324652
It makes no difference. She was never going to fuck you to begin with.

>>48324838
>Widely claimed
What if I told you most of the talent were dating and fucking like attractive 20-something women?

>>48324652
Tempus only showed her true colors.

>>48325153
Unironically I would be happy for them, assuming.I believed you anyway.

>>48321956
yes but their fans aren't retarded enough to shill them in the catalog for obvious reasons

>>48324652
Tempus just made her better

>>48324965
he doesn't get it
>>48325186
he gets it

>>48325316
please commit suicide

>>48325316
This guy gets it

>>48325316
This guy is correct

>>48325316
it's better of course, i love all the toons all rally to her and joined her
for that i thank tempiss
it's a cesspool for faggots now

>>48324652
Lol
She was tediously mundane from the start. Right behind Sana on the wasted potential and wasted holo spots scales. All this tempus business has done is that it's gotten the deluded coomers, that had gaslit themselves into thinking they enjoyed her streams instead of just the model, into seeing just how boring and lazy she actually is. About time you fags saw what everyone else did after her first few streams.

>>48325326
Flushing out the crying faggots was a positive side effect of Tempus. But feel free to continue to waste your own time and effort litigating the drama

>>48325671
what

>>48325596
Tempus has barely any viewers anon, this is about Kronii. She got better after Tempus, she's much more happier now.

>>48325316
Tempus was actually terrible for Kronii, not because she collabed with males but because it revealed to her how shit a significant part of her community is and shattered her trust in it.
Now the rest of us who do not give a shit if she collabs with males or not have to deal with the fallout.

>>48321956
Every 1-2views chubba

>>48325812
Nah, it was great because it ejected Gabe and sent his radioactive ass around to graduate other chuubas.

>>48325812
There's no fallout. That's just who Kronii is.

>>48325812
>>48325801
>>48325671
Sometimes I can't tell if you niggers are baiting or legitimately have the worst opinions on everything

>>48325812
Kronii got rid of unicorn and parasocial gachikois off her fanbase. That's a good thing.

>>48325910
Not worth it.
We still haven't rebuilt up to the trust and intimacy we had to before the whole shitshow.
But yes it is one of the few positives.

>>48321956
Ina easily as she doesn't have antis.
The word anybody says about her is calling her boring.

>>48325927
>>48326017
Getting rid of the mentally ill is not the issue.
The issue is now Kronii is more distant that she used to be because she lifted up the rock and saw what was under it.
She's more hesitant now because she knows this shit is out there.

>>48322857
she has a lot of retarded EOP fans that wear her face which makes me start to dislike her by association

>>48325984
They're troons. What they write has no irony.
It's all yaswenslay with them to pwn chud. Ignore them and they'll sort themselves out in the inevitable fashion.

>>48326112
That's the scary thing about it. For some lizard brain reason, guilt by association shitposting is real.

>>48326022
>Trust and intimacy
You sound very parasocial

>>48326261
its the same shit with luna, ina, and gura. the amount of fucking absolute mouthbreathers i see outside of /vt/ with ina and luna avatars is boggling

>>48326107
She's a retard, she made thousands of dollars from this fanbase, she should have known what she signed up for. She has no problem continuing to take money or she would have quit.

>>48326017
>Kronii got rid of parasocial gachikois
lol lmao even
she got rid of unicorns sure but now her entire audience are masochist gachikoi cucks

>>48326112
>wear her face
sorry Im confused, what do you mean by this

>>48326475
identify as fans on their profile, use her as their profile pic, etc

>>48326306
Ina dominates the Hololive reddit board. This is to be expected

>>48326277
Parasocialism is not the issue.
All streamers cultivate it. That's the point.
The shit started being used about TV actors. Now with live chat people are even closer.
Kronii was fine with it as well.

The issue is people who delude themselves into thinking the relationship is a) romantic and b) two sided and try to control and restrict the streamer as if they were their sharia wife.
And melt down when they fail.

>>48326522
takos are also notorious containment breaking tourists who still think this is a secret club

>>48326391
The whole fanbase is not made up of mentally ill unicorns.

>>48326410
The unicorns didn't even leave, they just squat in her thread and complain when she plays with the menhera squad. It's honestly embarrassing.

>>48326608

>>48326635
Most of them never cared about her and don't now.
They just use her as a target to fling shit when homocollabs are in the spotlight.

>>48326796
I'm a fan and not a mentally ill unicorn

>>48326818
>they are in her thread
>watching her streams
>talking about her every day
>but they don't care about her because they act up once a month during faggot collabs
Yeah that's a reasonable take, about on par with every other homoposter

>>48326506
like on twitter?

>>48326858
You are part of the 8% casual viewers of Hololive then.

>>48326017
only faggots remain,
perfect for her !
i enjoy watching the cesspool shit they are all in

>>48326924
>they are in her thread
>watching her streams
>talking about her every day

>citation needed
I mean for sure some still are doing this shit. But the thread getting 2-3x the ips when a homo collab is announced/on is not a just a wild coincidence.

>>48326924
Terminal thread readers/clip watchers are a thing and it's disingenuous to think otherwise. You think /hlgg/ or /#/s actually watches streams instead of shitposting analytics?

>>48326975
Made up number. You can look at superchats, youtube comments and twitter replies and see that mentally ill unicorns are a tiny minority

>>48326975
I buy merch, I have membership.
I just don't delude myself that I'm going to date my oshi if I just become a little more obsessive.

>>48326128
here's me wishing a troon goes nuts and finds kronii and abuse/stabs her.
we all know the high % of nutjobs in the toons attacks so far

>>48326410
Kronii's mod friends are trying to quietly ban them all from chat now.

>>48327157
>we all know the high % of nutjobs in the toons attacks so far
Do we though?

>>48327102
>Buy merch
For what purpose other than being in love with her?
>delude myself that i'm going to date my oshi
Nobody does dumbass, the least she could do is keep the illusion for you like most Hololive girls do, it's part of the appeal of Hololive.

>>48324388
why shouldn't i have /vt/ as my oshi

>>48326941
twitter, discord, etc yeah

>>48327447
ah gotcha, I am an EOP watamate but I try to stay away from social media

>>48327298
>For what purpose other than being in love with her?
To support a content creator that I like?
I'm not going to lie. Me being attracted to her makes me more willing to support her but I'm not delusional about our relationship.
> keep the illusion for you
Which she does. If she started talking about her past sexual experience or talk about her BF on stream it would be one thing. But I'm not mentally ill enough to flip out if she just talks to men on stream.
It's pretty fucking retarded that it's even necessary to say this.
If she was my GF I wouldn't be trying be trying to make her drop all her male friends and stay in the kitchen wearing a burka either.
This shit is from people who have no idea how intrapersonal relationships even work.

>>48325812
Fucking don't interact with the rest of the fanbase. This goes for other holos as well. Someone is going to throw a hissy fit no matter what she does. Ignore the rest of the fanbase. You'll be much happier doing so.

>>48327447
>using both twitter and discord
you are part of the problem

>>48327975
Once again It's not the shitfits that /vt/ throws that's the issue.
It's that Kronii has become noticeably more distant post this and is only slowly getting back to how she was pre this.

>>48326107
Shes much more open in membership streams. Grays and schizios in normal streams taught her to keep her guard up. Her recent handcam puzzel member stream was quite comfy and she far more friendly.

>>48327298
It's a really nice daki

>>48327846
I do commend your willpower to stay with her through it all even if it's a bad thing.
You could put this level of dedication towards something useful rather than an internet persona you are paying condoms for.

>>48328213
You could apply that advice to any vtuber desu, but you don't

>>48326608
No just the majority of people who buy merch and support you in real tangible ways, not just watching clips and upvoting on Reddit. And it's not even Unicorns, it's mostly CGDCTfags.

>>48328058
And thats the fanbase being ultra retards that caused her to be that way. Again don't interact with the rest of the fanbase. Also stop trying to vye for her attention vs all the retards.

>>48328328
Some like Kronii make it more obvious once the mask falls out. She can't even pretend for you.
But some of the Hololive japanese girls are actual virgins. Those make more sense to support.

>>48328100
It's getting better but if you compare it to her membership streams before it's not the same yet.
And not to mention the whole period in the middle which just put the breaks to all of this in the first place.
Our bond level has been destroyed, reduced to atoms.

>>48328213
What willpower?
What is a bad thing?
What are you even talking about?

>>48321956
ENTER

>>48328546
That mentality is the most pathetic.
Paying someone because you think they are a virgin is the saddest.

>>48328702
Makes more sense as paying for merch and membership, you have a confirmation they are not using the money you give them to fuck men behind the scenes.
If you were a normal viewer like only watching streams that is 100% fine. But you are not.

I only said it's a better scenario though, giving money away for an internet celebrity is very pathetic, both for vtubers and normal ones.

>>48329090
I don't care what they do off stream desu

>>48329179
you do you brother.
I only hope you can find a better use for your money in the future.

>>48329090
they are suppose to play a role, a fake persona we all like, ever seen real celebrities in their personal life? most of them are shitbags. but who cares, only a handful are both kind and respectful , but she shit the bag, so fuck her.

>>48326608
now it's made up of mentally ill faggots(even worst)
good trade for kroniies

>>48329350
Collabing with Tempus is not disrespectful though

>>48329453
say nice words be kind and promise to do A then immediately shits the bag and does B, yeah sure faggot, then immediately does a collab to shit on the promised fans, if anyone who deserve hate is her.

>>48329453
Depends on how they handle it.
Kronii and Ame did it wrong while Bae is the only one who did it right.

>>48329090
I'm not "a man providing for a woman in return for sex"
Or more accurately "a man providing peanuts for a woman in return for virtual not-sex".
I'm supporting a content creator so that they can continue to produce content, which I like.
As long as they don't mindlessly throw my money away on useless shit it's not for me to decide how they spend it.
It's nice when they don't bring up their romantic relationships up on stream and luckily, as someone who watches hololive exclusively, this is 100% of them.

Pretending that my meager donations are somehow a contract for the streamer to never even look at men and secretly shlick herself about how much she depends on me is some real fucking mental illness.

>>48322857
>he doesn't know about the Nintendo Switch yab

>>48329591
I was completely fine with how she handled it. She gave out a comprise and the unicorns accepted it and then immediately shit all over it.
So her publicly taking it back only makes sense, there is no negotiation with the mentally ill.

And then regardless she pretty much adhered to it anyways.

>>48329693
You throw the word content creator around but doesn't change what i said. They are still internet celebrities.
The only sane way to support "content creators" is merely to give them a like or a subscription which costs nothing.

>>48330245
How the fuck would they be able to create anything if you don't give them money?
This is a capitalist society. If you want something to keep existing you better show it financially.

>>48321956
Yeah but few people will know them because anyone will get haters once they've accumulated enough viewers

>>48330576
Because the platforms already gives them revenue just for streaming and making content you absolute retard.
You don't have to pay a single penny.

>>48326017
>Kronii got rid of unicorn and parasocial gachikois off her fanbase. That's a good thing.
She was okay with the result but was management? They were heavily pushing HoloPro unity for months but there was no collab spam with the debut of Tempus 2. Might be a temporary pause but even Cover got worried about the numbers for holoEN.

Putting aside the part where Kronii let the mask slip and turned on her fans, she's just fucking BORING. She offers nothing that other Holos don't do better. She's lazy and puts the bare minimum of effort into everything and it shows. That's one of the reasons the Vesper collabs were so surprising, nobody had seen her that energetic and animated before.

>>48330928
>She was okay with the result but was management? They were heavily pushing HoloPro unity for months
Weird schizo rrat

>>48330937
>Instead of arguing about how Kronii is a stupid whore for talking to men, which I know I will lose, how about we talk about how I'm outing myself as shitstirrer who never cared about Kronii in the first place
Well, personally I think you are a shitstirrer and need to fuck off.

>>48329868
always knew u were a faggot.

>>48329868
>And then regardless she pretty much adhered to it anyways.
The remaining clucks are fucking delusional
She broke every single one of her promises and continues to do so
She clearly hates her audience now more than ever before, she always did a bit about playfully insulting them but now she sounds genuinely bitter and acts vindictive towards them
If you think any of the changes since the yab were good for her you have more brain damage than the schizos that left her

>>48321956

>>48333350
kek if u think there's actually any "fans" left it's about at most 10%
most just hate watch her and others are the "positive troons fags"
i enjoy that what's left it's all mentally ill nutjobs
still praying for the troon "fan" to attack her

>>48333625
The only reason she's still relevant is because fags like you let her live rent free in your heads. Literally just stop talking about her or even thinking about her. JPnikki almost broke Matsuri and Towa with that and she had a much stronger base than Kronii.

>>48324710
Erectile Dysfunction Drains Yolks

>>48334699
I see
Well that's to be expected for any of these girls, at least she's professional about male interactions on her Fauna persona

>>48333350
>Won't talk much on twitter
Had what, like 1-2 messages over the last 8 months?
>won't initiate colabs
Initiated 1 collab over the last 8 months
>not on her channel
Had 2 streams on her channel over the last 8 months

Yeah, sounds like she pretty much adhered to it.
She pretty much had an idea to do the psychology stream and decided to just do it and otherwise was pretty much acting like she said she would.
I don't blame her for not giving up on that stream just to placate unicorns who blow up no matter what, as we can see from the constant bullshit they post, like you.

>>48321956

>>48335564
this isn't even halu anymore you're on some insane shit anon

>>48324710
Luxiemsisters hate council.

>>48335791
Explain please, use details in your answer.

>>48334312
thank you, for seething
my job here is doing well.

I've never seen Ina ever get fazed, frustrated, lash out, angry, or passive aggressive. She always keeps up an immaculately positive and comfy vibe in her streams and collabs. Not sure how she does it but she's as close to a cinnamon bun you can get in Holoen except maybe Fauna.

>>48342506
She's also a cringe sjw like all the other en vtubers

>>48342506
>I've never seen Ina ever get fazed, frustrated, lash out, angry, or passive aggressive.
I have and I barely watch her

>>48321956
Outside /vt/ thread, Kronii doesn’t really have normies-drama like Mori, Gura, or Kiara has.

>>48342749
When has Ina ever said SJW shit? Give real examples only. Rrats you made up don't care.

>>48343011
She does have, a lot.

>>48343011
bruh

>>48343023
Denial you don't even watch Ina kys

>>48343098
autists like gabe and alex dont count

>>48342806
Ok. Link?

>>48343143
>ask when Ina has ever said SJW shit
>you can't tell me
So I take it she's never said SJW shit and you're making it up?

>>48343011
even my friends that don't watch council or browse /vt/ know about Kronii getting dicked by Vesper

>>48343313
I never understood why people get so protective seeing their oshi interact with males on stream. So just chatting with someone of the opposite sex, sharing laughs automatically means they are having sex? Man I wish it worked that way then I'd have had so much sex in my life but it doesn't work that way lol.

>>48343313
Oh yeah how could I forget about that?! I just remember her tweets from back then. Never mind about what I just said then.

>>48343455
just be yourself anon you'll get there one day

>>48343455
>not understanding why anyone would object to having their virtual crush flirt with other men
Are you a cuck per chance?

>>48343638
>Having normal friendly interactions while on the job = flirting and sex
Again if it were that easy then we'd all be banging like rabbits. Trust me I don't take kindly to collab beggars but I watched clips of the kronii vesper streams and it's not the boogieman y'all are making it out to be.

>>48343455
Because we not watching some indie, we watch a corpo entertainment. Nobody care if indie fucking everyone, but everyone sure will resent knowing a chubba-chat dynamic change because of some dick. The retarded anon who hate gachikoi are the same retard that wish they graduate and become indie. Faggot like those doesn't buy merch or sc and looking at kronii merch sale, the worst of all time in holoen, yea those faggot will never buy her merch.

>>48321956
Nene is untouchable, she stole art and it resulted in the mildest feedback possible. She has no haters and is universally loved.

>>48344397
Nah i don't trust western chubba, there a reason why "japan does it it ok" because it turn out many of westerner got caught buying plane ticket just to fuck other like those in wactor, phase, and other small corpo

>>48321956
If gender doesn't matter then I think Roberu, anyone that hates him is just larping. If looking specifically for female then look for a 2view.

I know one, but I won't post her because there's too many contrarians and dramaniggers here and someone would just come up with a bullshit drama.

>>48342506

>>48342506
Did you memory hole that guilty gear stream?

>>48343638
I don't understand unicorns.
They are self-hating cucks.
They keep imaging relationships that don't exist and then get mad at them.

>>48342506
I don't get the mentality of people like you. None of that matters, after that 3 month long break which happened at a time Ina was lazy as hell ,and became even lazier after her return....
There is nothing that it says "I hate my fans" more than a vtuber that has to drag herself to stream to a avoid going a week with no content.
Real life workers can take couple weeks vacation after a year or burn out, I don't know what is so stressful about vtubing to justify such breaks.

>>48350734
While I understand, and I agree vtubing is way easier than real jobs, its also not that simple. A vtubers product is their demeanor, outward personality. Other jobs you have to get something done whether you are miserable or not. Vtubers cannot be outwardly miserable om stream, at least in an unpleasant way. Thus the long breaks are more common because you can be miserable in an office job in front of a spreadsheet. But not miserable in front of thousands of fans expecting to be entertained. Emotional health can take a long time to fully heal. You'd rather have one great stream than five mediocre streams marred with lapses of bad attitude. But yeah I agree this job is nothing compared to teachers, doctors, armed services, etc.

>>48322435
Fauna (its the saplings that need to die absolute worst fanbase in EN so obnoxious), Bae (aside from male collabs which doesnt really affect her), risu, zeta for the most part, kaela, anya. For jp maybe subaru

>>48326072
Nah people don't find her boring. Her issue lately are about health.

>>48342506
>I've never seen Ina ever get fazed, frustrated, lash out, angry, or passive aggressive.
There has been a few times when Ina got angry. When some idiot coomers were making sexual remarks during her drawing of Kronii she was furious and wouldn't talk for over an hour. She generally doesn't like backseating in games or having to follow some of the scripted events from management.

>>48326017
It's not a good thing for her merch sales

>>48329179
I don't care what they do off stream either, but I do care what they do on stream and that's why I hate male collabs

>>48321956
Hags

>>48321956
Pina and Rita from prism

>>48321956
Vinny from Vinesauce

>>48321956
JP vtubers are generally completely drama-free.

>>48324652
desu Kronii is way better in collabs than by herself. Her melancholic low energy contrasts extremely well with the rest of the loud, hyperactive holomems, male and female alike. However that is not a very good recipe for solo streams, unless you play her streams for "background noise".

>>48360838
Lmfao

>>48321956
Lua from Kawaii is well liked

>>48342506
I remember Ina being pretty frustrated during her Half-Life streams

>have to have tab open to the archive to see what tranny janny decides to delete in between his dilation sessions
what a shithole of a board

>>48326112
You are so fucking stupid.

>>48322435
>>48322502
>>48322725
>>48328697
>>48333501
>>48335677
>>48345380
Wrong

>>48360095
>>48360838
Wrong as fuck

>>48325831
Not all but some of them are drama-free

>>48326072
>>48360272
>>48367269
Dunno

Streams a lot: Greedy bitch.
Streams a little: Lazy bitch.
Indie: 2view nobody.
Agency: Corpo sellout.
Sings: Talentless faker trying to be an idol.
Doesn't sing: Talentless lazy bitch who isn't being an idol.
Good at games: Fat ugly whale in real life.
Bad at games: Shit streamer should stick to GFE.
GFE: Lying whore fucking her BFs with condoms bought with simp money.
No GFE: Cold bitch who treats audience like shit.
Collabs with males: Definitely sucking the guy's dick off camera.
Doesn't collab with males: Unicorn GFE bitch that panders to audience.

>>48377533
This

>>48377533
This desu senpai

At the end of the day, you're not allowed to enjoy anything.

>>48321956
Sakamata Chloe and Baelz