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Hololive EN is currently trying to redeem themselves.

>Girls are actually begging people to like and subscribe like regular YouTubers
>Raid feature which never used to be used, is now being used more often
>Membership gifting, which some girls felt ambivalent on, is now being openly noticed and thanked
>Thumbnails are taken from more suggestive artwork/girls are using more suggestive outfits, i.e. Mori in her nightwear
>Homo collabs have disappeared

Numbers may be contained in their own hell of a thread but we know that Cover, and more importantly their sponsors, rely on them as a metric. And numbers have been going down. CCV and subs have slowed, and while people might want to blame it on lockdown being over, consider that JP is doing better than ever in both fields. If any Cover staff see this, just know this. Your core audience wants to see cute girls doing cute things. Graduate Mori, Kronii, and all of Tempus and then we can talk. Bae was honest from the start about who she was, and Ame has given us a lot of great events so they can stay. But this half assed shit you're doing now won't bring people back. You need to eradicate the tumors that you currently have.

>> No.48307331

>>48307174
Why you keep seething over Tempus bro don't you have it in your heart to just...Ignore em? And no I'm not a Faggot I just don't pay attention to things I don't like

>> No.48307441 [DELETED] 

>>48307174
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug I tell you

>> No.48307446

>>48307331
Fpbp

>> No.48307483

>>48307331
Faggot

>> No.48307495

>>48307331
Why do you people seethe when Unicornchads say they'll never watch Kronii and Mori ever again? Isn't that what you want?

>> No.48307512

>>48307174
kill yourself rabbitnigger

>> No.48307513

>>48307174
New management, new rules. Simple as.

>> No.48307524

>>48307174
Anon… Tempus isn’t getting standardized merch like the JP Holostars are. They aren’t going anywhere.

>> No.48308440

>>48307174
>Hololive EN is currently trying to redeem themselves.
>Tempus still exists
You're objectively wrong

>> No.48308537

>>48308440
Did you read past the first sentence?
>Graduate Mori, Kronii, and all of Tempus and then we can talk.
>But this half assed shit you're doing now won't bring people back.

>> No.48308599

>>48308537
I didn't read past the headline
You think I care about your opinion? lol

>> No.48308664

>>48307331
fpbp
>>48307495
because you complain 24/7 about it

>> No.48308851

I think the real kicker is that they perform to a far worse degree than popular fleshtubers but all these corporations act like they're on top of the world.
NO YOU FAGGOT MANAGER I'M NOT GOING TO PROSTRATE MYSELF FOR 1K SUBS.
Neither should these performers. Just work something out so you can keep your characters. All that management and it's doing nothing for them.
>p-please subscribe...so you can use my chat...but if you do that and say something I don't like then no chat for you.
The game wasn't even rigged. It's just gay.

>> No.48308924

>>48308599
>Doesn't read thread OP
>Comes into thread anyways to post
>Ignorantly makes a worthless post that is instantly remedied if he had read the OP
Baffling behavior.

>> No.48308933

>>48307174
Talking about the girls, when sudenly mention the homos. Are you sure you are not gay, OP? It seems you think about cock 24/7.

>> No.48308941

>Are actually begging people to like and subscribe like regular YouTubers
>Raid feature which never used to be used, is now being used more often
>Membership gifting, which some girls felt ambivalent on, is now being openly noticed and thanked

Everything that the Homos did first, guess Tempiss was the way all along.

>> No.48309020

>>48307495
Because you keep clogging the fucking catalogue with this tiring shit

>> No.48309115

>>48308933
ESL-kun please go back to your dirt hut, the coffee shop free wifi wasn't meant to be used for this.

>> No.48309461

>>48307495
>no one seething over that
Schizo-chama did you forget your meds again?

>> No.48309576 [DELETED] 

>>48307495
Because you are the only ones bringing tempiss up at this point in every possible out-of-context situation and thread. You have literally been mindbroken like some 1930s asylum patients.

>> No.48309664

>>48309115
>ESL-kun
ofc leave it to the muttmericans to know english
shoud have known better

>> No.48309696

>>48307174
lol you think

>> No.48309748

>>48309020
Oh no, not the sacred catalogue, full of...garbage splits and bait threads.

>> No.48309803

>>48307495
Because you won't shut the fuck up about it and it's annoying

>> No.48309911

>>48309020
so you spend more time reading /vt/ than watching streams

>> No.48310365

>>48308664
>>48309020
>>48309461
>>48309576
>>48309803
Daily reminder that I'm never watching them again.

>> No.48310619

>>48307331
Tempiss homofags and homobegger faggots like you are proof that they are proof that all western vtubing is shit.
Nothing but lying whores and trannies.

>> No.48310714 [DELETED] 

>>48310365
That's a good thing anon, nobody is asking you to because nobody wants you to.

>> No.48310952

>>48307174
That's like saying water is trying to not be wet. This are western women anon, they are set in their ways. Expecting anything besides the minimum is already way too much. Only Kiara can pull off being a real chuuba and that's only because she wishes she was Japanese.

>> No.48310987

>>48310952
Irys and Fauna and Mumei are okay too.

>> No.48311184

>>48307331
shouldn't have shat the bed when they made their first impression.
but the real answer is anons are still seething because there's little other things to talk about in EN

>> No.48311251

>>48307174
>Homo collabs have disappeared
not for Kronii and Mori, planning homo off collabs

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48311425

>>48310714
>"pweese by my bwuway"

>> No.48311492 [DELETED] 

>>48311425
Protagonism syndrome anon. She is 100% not asking your poor ass.

>> No.48311584

>>48307331
ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away

>> No.48311583

>>48310714
Is that why she keeps writings songs about her haters?

>> No.48311682

>>48311184
>little other things to talk about
Which is precisely why they're reclining: they're boring and lazy. The biggest events that happen now are gura and ina deciding to hit "start streaming" in obs once a month

>> No.48311686

>>48307174
woah I wish this was the case of Gura

>> No.48312035

>>48307331
Based 'enjoying things you enjoy' enjoyer

>> No.48312106

>>48310365
good for you, and for them too

>> No.48312121

>>48311686
>>48311682
That’s probably the funniest thing as en collapses around everyone except fauna. Gura and Ina are doing everything wrong except they’ve never antagonized their fans. Turns out that’s more important than anything else.
>Obligatory mumei and irys
Well mumei is dying and irys is shackled by 2 people her fans actively hate. Outside of going all in on gfe irys is actually doomed

>> No.48312167

>>48311584
How's the ol' fight coming along, anon? Is the problem gone yet?

>> No.48312182

>>48307174
>Membership gifting, which some girls felt ambivalent on, is now being openly noticed and thanked
The attitude on membership gifting has definitely changed in holoEN but the holostars have already explained why. Memberships are now a performance metric in their contracts. The talents are trying to keep those numbers up when they previously didn't care if they lost members.

>> No.48312265

>>48307495
>Unicorn
>Chad
Rumao

>> No.48312365

>>48308924
>expects otherwise
Baffling behavior indeed.

>> No.48312416

>>48307174
Keep seething faggot ,Tempus 3 already auditioned

>> No.48312565

>>48310619
You sound like a faggot and im not even trying to be edgy calling you that

>> No.48312657

>>48307446
Mindbroken

>> No.48312691

>>48312121
>Outside of going all in on gfe irys is actually doomed
It's funny how she hasn't gone in on it fully, she's already half way there being the annoying gf that manages to talk alot without saying anything. Irystocrats would absolutely eat it up if she really did go the extra mile with some GFE.

>> No.48314556

>>48311682
Ame was definitely watchable before Tempus, Kronii not so much but I guess tons of people have yellow fever. Point is Tempus has reduced the amount of watchable Holos, in addition to the others getting lazy/sick.

>> No.48315419 [DELETED] 

>>48311583
Do any of those songs mention her wanting you to watch her? If yes can you timestamp it please?

>> No.48315624

>>48308941
Difference is, Tempus needed it, the girls never did. Because people actually wanted to watch the girls. And many still do, hence the unhappiness over them not streaming.

>> No.48316882

>>48307331
I can’t ignore that they wasted over a year on 8 faggots. They deserve to be shit on, and they should all be fired, simple as that. They already canned the retard director who made these EN decisions. Tempus is a mistake that was made by another mistake. I will shit up every comments section, and do my part to make every unity interaction toxic on social media. No, I don’t have anything better to do.

>> No.48316959

>>48312691
as someone once said, "IRyS is GFE for the people in denial that they're into GFE"

>> No.48317064

>>48316882
>I can’t ignore that they wasted over a year on 8 faggots.
No, they used that year letting all the whores fall into the small indies that are now collapsing.

>> No.48317099

>>48311425
She’s asking everyone. Therefore she is asking me as well. Checkmate.

>> No.48317285

>>48317064
But hey. It’s worth it though. Because some fags have whales and on good days some of the boys might even break 4 views! (Outside of the usual fags who have retained some of their homocollab numbers.)

>> No.48319508

>>48317285
bad bot post

>> No.48319850

>>48307331
>out of everything in the OP he focuses on the single faggot mention
Nah you're either a homo or a woman.

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48320343

>>48319508
You only wish it was a bot post.

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48320455

>>48307174
>>48307441
>>48309576
>>48310714
>>48311492
>>48315419
Just delete the thread jannie what the fuck are you doing with this deletion shit

>> No.48321630

>>48316882
Based, Tempus has tainted the brand and split the fanbase by bringing in more normalfags.

>> No.48321644

>>48307174
>>Membership gifting, which some girls felt ambivalent on, is now being openly noticed and thanked
But the sisters told me they were huge money makers? Why would they need to resort to this?

>> No.48321784

>>48307331
I could if they were like JPstars, hell I wouldn't have minded one collab a month.
But after two waves in six months, no en3, and the fuckton of collabs and shilling I will now anti them at every and all opportunity

>> No.48322073

>>48321644
Kronies in particular are sperging out about this because they feel it reduces their chances of being read in chat. Remember these are the schizos who follow the spreadsheet.

>> No.48322108

>>48307331
riiiiiiight

>> No.48322137

>>48321784
I feel the same way. I didn't want them, but if they had stayed in their own lane, I could have ignored them. But no, those faggots were pushed at every fucking opportunity and their beggars were fucking EVERYWHERE. Beggars on clip comments, schedules, members posts, in chat during streams, and sending SCs begging.

>> No.48322151

>>48307331
>Don't like male collabs
>Don't like male vtubers
>Male debuts instead of gen 3
>Male collabs happen
>Seethe
It's that simple
Now explain to me why them seething makes you seethe

>> No.48322297

>>48307174
>Tempus Tempus Tempus
Why are nousagis so obsessed with dick-havers?

>> No.48322353

>>48307331
Fpbp

>> No.48322390
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48322390

>>48307174
>Homo collabs have disappeared
May is around the corner anon. See you at the next SALT/WARS Collab.

>> No.48322446

>>48322151
Because like all outsider normalfags who find this place from Reddit or dramanigger channels, they have to be in the right. It is an issue of moral superiority for them, they are well adjusted healthy people and you are a seething incel who hates women. No you aren't someone who enjoyed a niche hobby only for it to be overrun with fags, you are an evil bitter man who wants to control these poor women who have such hard jobs making six figures from playing video games.

>> No.48322510

>>48307174
We /#/chads were right in the end. Too bad they don't want to listen to us, they could just terminate the whole EN branch and Hololive would then become 10x more popular than ever before.

>> No.48322570

>>48308924
Welcome to /vt/ newfag. Let me post bait in your general too.

>> No.48322624

>>48307331
ogey spic-chama

>> No.48322645

>>48322510
>/#/
>Chads
Nice try nerd. Chads don't need numbers.

>> No.48322992

>>48322570
>How shitty I made the board is how it always was
Fuck you nigger, I've been here since before the board existed.

>> No.48323209

>>48322992
>Claims to be an oldfag
>Wondering why trolls are shitposting in your thread
Did I stutter faggot?

>> No.48323233

>>48307174
>If any Cover staff see this
You're Chris-chan levels of gone, my dude.

>> No.48323490

>>48307174
Well youre probably right in that something is going on. However the last mixed collab had a lot more viewers than any of the recent girl only EN collabs so youre clearly wrong there.

>> No.48323588

>>48323490
While this is true, it's also true that the EN girls CCV has dropped across the board, some of them dramatically, with the biggest impacts on the Homo collabers. Plus you have Kronii trying to shill her merch for the extension and the leaked data showing she's dead fucking last in merch sales.

>> No.48324260

>>48323490
There's an interesting dynamic with viewers.
Some shit draws in some viewers but repels others.
I will give you a straight forward example I'm very familiar with:
Finana
When Finana started playing Honkai Impact her CCV went up by a lot. That's because Mihoyo fans were tuning in specifically to watch her play that game.
So she kept playing it.
Then she played other gachas and her CCV also went higher when he played them. So she played those a bit more.
This led her to actually streaming a lot of gacha.
The immediate consequence was pretty good, her CCV would go higher.
But something happened over time, her total CCV started dropping overall, lower and lower and lower.
Any non gacha game would have a lower CCV than she had before. This affected all of her streams across the board.
Granted Finana also made other questionable choices like telling her fans to educate themselves or playing with some fans in private.
But the gacha decay was happening before these events.
Right now her CCV is a pathetic 800 for most streams. If she plays Honkai or Genshin it goes to around 1200 or 1300 but it normally goes back to 800 if she plays anything else.
She sacrificed long term consistent viewers to capitalize on the audience that was only interested in Honkai.
You can see how this is relatable to the Homo collab situation.

Let me give you another example, also related to Nijisanji.
Nijisanji big collabs get more numbers than HoloEN collabs at this point.
Nijisanji overall gets more viewers. If you only compare members individually HoloEN has higher numbers of course.
But the fact that Nijisanji has like four times as many members as HoloEN means all of those vtubers have their own individual audiences so when they collab all of those audiences come together to watch the collab.
You can see how this relates to HoloEN x HolostarsEN collabs as well.

You've got people who are very interested in those collabs and you've got people from different groups tuning together to watch them. But once the collab is over those audiences leave and they are left with their standard audience.
And that standard audience is leaving them because of those collabs.

>> No.48324889

>>48324260
There's also a thing that happens with all girl collabs where some people hate who their oshi is collabing with. Like plenty of Irystocrats cant stand Mori and Bae, so Chad Cast doesn't do as well. Or people hate Kronii and Ame now for letting the mask slip and spitting on their fans so they don't watch out of principle.

>> No.48325014

>>48307331
No because i want them to all graduate, leaving them alone brings us no closer to that goal

>> No.48325262

>>48307446
>>48322353
>>48308664
>>48312035
The faggots have been spotted, everyone else seems based

>> No.48325528

>>48324889
Good point, the compatibility of a group with the audiences of the individual vtubers involved will affect the final numbers it gets.

>> No.48325981

>>48325528
I think Kiara would be much better if she just dropped the fucking chicken voice.

>> No.48326127

>>48325981
I'm divided about it.
I really enjoy funny voices, it's one of the things that drew me to this hobby in the first place, I like how girls sort of channel their inner funny when they play their character, they cease being normal everyday people and become cartoons. It shows they are committed to it too.
But the chicken voice is quite annoying yeah...
I feel bad for her, she lost the funny voice lottery.
Some girls have fake anime voices that are really appealing, a good voice alone can make such a big difference and boost a girl's appeal more than a good model.
But a bad voice is a massive debuff and poor wawa's anime voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

>> No.48326652

>>48325262
>no stop enjoying things and care about this stupid bullshit
You post like a woman.

>> No.48328272

>>48326652
nta but we were enjoying things until you homobeggars came in with your stupid bullshit.

>> No.48328411

>>48328272
so enjoy things instead of crying 24/7 like a woman, I literally wake up every day to some faggot posting
>wake up
>tempus exists, still want to kill them and myselves
every fucking day

>> No.48328523

>>48328411
You wake up to a fucking chicken being killed in the streets while your whore of a mother takes a shit beside the road in your third world shithole.

>> No.48328855

>>48328523
You okay, Pajeet?

>> No.48329147

>>48307495
BECAUSE YOUR RIGHT AND I'M WRONG

>> No.48329366

>>48307331
Because you have to remember homobeggar what they have done, or else they will delude themselves in thinking their homo are great or something stupid like this, that why anon have to permanently remember you what you have done and ask you to repent. so repent. repent. repent. repent.

>> No.48329500

>>48329366
Jesus fucking christ, schizochama

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48329652

>>48329366
Based.

>> No.48332461

>>48329366
ESL but based

>> No.48332675

>>48329366
Always good to see someone more schizophrenic than myself on here

>> No.48334428

>>48307331
fpbp

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