/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

dogshit

God fucking dammit, I fucked up the embed.

>>48287849
Its not that the clause literally said she had to stream less. There was probably a part that said EIEN has the right to reduce or impede a talents streaming quantity for any reason including over concerns for their wellbeing and health. Its usually the broad shit that gets abused.

Trust the process

>>48287938
Riitard...

>>48287981
I'm saying when have you ever seen an employment contract that states they can make someone work LESS that's crazy talk

HOPE!

>>48288049
Look, no company is going to willingly make their workers work less, because it will make them less money. The exception being that if the worker decides to work themselves to the bone, then if management doesn't step in and say "hey, you're working TOO much, go on vacation", and something happens to that worker, the company can still be held liable for neglecting their employee. Its bullshit but stuff like this has happened.

>>48288158
I don't buy it. Seeing as the first black ops stream was 2 minutes from beginning with her talking in prechat and she suddenly goes offline for 3 days and comes back crying, that's a suspension not a "hey you're working too hard we love you please take a couple days off"

>>48287911
>>48287911
>>48287911

We have 2 threads, let this one die.
>>48287938 (me)

>>48288273
the way I see it it was probably
>Riifu stresses the fuck out over everyday streams
>relations with management go down cause she takes everything really badly under duress
>says thing that crosses the line
>suspension
>talk about what's going on with management (ie the discord leaks)
>eri tells her to take it easy

>>48288273
You're right. It was a suspension. We were told it was a break. Either way, management stepped in and said "Hey, were forcing you to cut down. No streams until Monday." I will say that there doesnt seem to be a good reason for it to go down the way it did right before the Blops stream. They could have waited until after. That way Riifu could have sent out a tweet saying "Hey guys, I think I've been overdoing it a tad but lately. Gonna take a few days to rest up."
The only reasons I can see why it wasn't done this way is because either they didn't want people to start with the health rrats, or, it might be that they just noticed right before that stream that Riifu was about to go over that boundary of having legally streamed too much because of their contract.

If, God forbid, they had let her continue, and something happened to her health while on stream, then they could have gotten in trouble for not adhering to the contract themselves. Its such a complicated mess, which is exactly why lawyers get paid a bullshit amount to deal with it.

>>48288548
that makes sense

>>48288131
HOPE!

Qrd? What happened?

Riifu...

>>48292153
Nothing worth talking about.

Rude awakening

is riifu's discord channel always this dead?

>>48294090
Riiflings are mostly NA,so yes

Real thread as this one is requested to die.
>>48294062

But why did she do it in that twitter account instead on the other two?

Discord doesn't know

>>48288548
>>48288587
Her suspension had nothing to do with her health whatsoever.
She wanted to push harder into alternate platforms like OnlyFans and Fansly and management thought that was going too far.
Now she's convinced that EIEN has ruined her growth potential by denying her the chance to sell IRL nudes on her corporate vtuber account.

>>48294825
pretty much

>>48294825
Riitard she already does those things how can you be this out of the loop?

>>48294825
Typical woman moment

>>48295041
Seanig...

>>48295041
>on her corporate vtuber account.

>>48294825
Sounds stupid. There's Japanese vtubers that do all kinds of explicit stuff and Melody already showed there's a niche for it in the EN sphere. If you're going to make a coomer corpo go through with it, otherwise I might as well watch indies, Vshojo, NijiEN...

>>48295041
Nigga she wanted to do that AS RIIFU

>>48295103
>>48295302
NA threadshitters are waking up. Today is gonna be a rough one

>>48295228
There is a very real legal difference between a company with lewd aspects and a porn production company. Especially in regards to international activities. I highly doubt Eri got into this wanting to make a porn company.
That's not even counting the escort services.

>>48295451
Sure there's differences, but it works for Vshojo.

>>48295569
>it works for Vshojo
Does it?
Two left already and more are likely on the way come contract renewal.

>>48295569
Vshojo is collapsing

Eh i woke up and saw the tweets then read the backlogs. I already had my drunken binge. I love the woman behind riifu. And corpos are always just covering their ass, fuck corpo. Ill just see what happens and enjoy the ride while playing my own kind of music

>>48295569
Vshojo was never a corpo. They were habdlers for merch and sponsors, and offered lawyers accountants and managers if they requested it. Since the first month they were grinding against sulver so no one who actually watched em was surprised, and vei would burn her own career into the ground for silver

>>48295808
>and vei would burn her own career into the ground for silver
Never watched them but I'm curious, why? Can you give a qrd?

>>48295808
That's Kilia's oshi

>>48295925
Vei and silv were close for years before vshj, always said shed do anything for her, they usually get married to eachother in mmos. Vei also got tired of her audience and wished several times to restart back to her 300 viewer days. Its why i dont blame gatekeeper anons. But unless they got gatekeeper money to support eien. Its not realistic.

>>48287938
just came in from the catalog to tell you that you suck at baking, baker

>all of tsunderia
>all of wactor
>half of kawaii production
>yuri from phase cunny
>veibae and silvervale
>nijisanji's entire foreign division but they hired more
>riifu from eien project
Why do so many companies struggle to retain talent?

>>48296454
Thanks, it's pretty cute

>>48295808
Vshitshow was supposed to be a couple of friends making a group, then they immediately started forming internal cliques to fuck each other over. Surprised it lasted so long.

>>48296927
>Company tries to wrangle talents into doing what they want and dont have the talents backs like the talents thought they did/should.
Maybe they do some sneaky bullshit in the background.
Talents become disillusioned and disenfranchised and unhappy and then they leave. Especially if they have a backup plan or think they can do good or better as an indie with NO company to tell them how to run their channel and such. Which can be extremely good for them, or extremely bad. Depending on how you handle freedom. And whether the new crowd you find e.g. friend are good for you or a bad influence

>>48296927
Idol going strong

>>48297373
>3 graduations, entire first gen rebranded because israeli market is too small and jews don't donate for some reason

>decide to get a riifu membership a week ago when i was thinking it was just her days off
>two thread mentionning her being suspended

Told you your shitty coomer findom corpo would be dead in a month, Discord tranny shills lmao

>>48297715
Its been more than a month, check mate fart sniffer

the new CyberLive and further proof that women need male managers to keep them on the rails

>>48297808
The threads definitely feel like the old Cyberlive threads. Guess there's a type of anon that's attracted to these trainwrecks.

>>48294825
Eri is to blame though. She is the one who thought it was perfectly okay for talent to have NSFW side accounts, shill to the vshojo coomertuber crowd, and allowed Riifu to do JOI and have a video of her jacking off.

If you let them do one thing they will want to go further than that, and that is what Riifu tried to do.

Eri is not a good vtuber CEO in this regard, especially when it is likely going to lead to their top talent quitting / getting fired.

She's 100% out the instant she's legally able to leave.

>>48298068
I think Eri should do a 2 hour ERO Asmr stream as punshment

>>48295041
I keep reading this, stop being a cunt and share the porn for a brother mate

>>48298151
Why are all woman in vtubing this fucking lazy and retarded. “I’m shook” get over yourself, your just a coombait, completely useless in the grand scheme of things

sorry about your corp SEAfags I wouldn't want a woman ceo either

>>48288049
You've clearly never held a job before. Most places pay you for a set amount of working hours and any more than that gets overtime pay (usually time-and-a-half), which is expensive for the employer, so they cap how much overtime you can do. Labor laws exist in some places, anon.

>>48298519
>any more than that gets overtime pay (usually time-and-a-half)
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
no, anon, most places lie to your face and tell you to underreport hours or you're fired.
this is in the us, too. if you're working overtime and getting paid for it you're either part of a government contract or working for one of the rare smaller companies that still has scruples.

>>48298519
This isnt salaried work though unless they specifically include it(kawaii offered it but no one took it iirc). Overtime doesnt kick in because hours are at the workers discretion. Youve likely only seen normal work contracts so you think youre right becayse youre an idiot

>>48298614
? Why is this place filled with basements dwelling retards pretending to be functioning member of society, it’s obvious you know nothing Jesus christ

>>48298614
This is why that anon said you’ve probably never held a job. Most businesses would rather not have to pay you overtime so they let you leave as soon as it’s closing time or are you talking about part time work at supermarket. Despite what you think those aren’t the majority of jobs

>>48298614
>tell you to underreport hours or you're fired.
>>Labor laws exist in some places, anon.
If anybody tries this shit here union will fuck company's ass so hard anyone who tried that shit will be fired within two weeks
That being said, >>48298635 is probably right, no fucking way their contract has an hourly wage

>>48298519
I'll join too, b2b contract may be very vague about this shit, up to not specifying the time at all, you just include the number of working hours later in the invoice

>>48298756
>>48298837
no this is from a career in engineering and talking with people from many industries. network and software devs have the worst of it. you will be required to work overtime hours off the clock or you'll quickly find yourself replaced by "nathan" from india. who, by the way, no matter how well you do the company will task you to train him to replace you or someone else.
>https://www.mass.gov/news/ags-investigation-finds-3000-eversource-workers-underpaid-company-to-pay-penalty-for-wage-and-hour-violations
it's literally just a cost of doing business.
you faggots need to try harder with your larps.

Chances of this being over some incredibly petty shit behind the scenes?

>>48299006
>woman on woman action
99,5%

>>48298982
Pretty much why im glad my job has to hire americans. So this isnt an issue. But as long as a companys publicly traded. Itll eventually get filled with pajeet off the street

wouldn't be surprised if it really was just some Certified Woman Moment™

>>48298614
>>48298635
Don't care, anon asked for an example of ANY company preventing you from working as much as you want and I gave it. I knew some faggot would try to move the goalpost.

>>48298982
Your country is a piece of shit, not my probleme your faggot ass working a faggot jobs. We in construction get all that good good overtime x2 to x4 pay.

Sucks to be a baby faggot like you lmao ;’)

>>48298614
My condolences to wagecucked burgers. Can't imagine having so little in terms of rights and agency.

>>48298982
Engineering lmao, rumao even
Useless cuck gonna be replace by a paki or a zhang meanwhile actual physical jobs are still good.

Kill yourself weak ass man

>angry at burger
>think if nothing but burger
>rent fREEEEEEE
im just enjoying my well paid job and having fun on the internet. Being an american was unironically best spawn, no health issues so life insurance isnt even an issue, and i have an affordable one anyways

>>48298068
>>48295228
>>48294825
If eien’s goal is the western market going overly lewd would actually cripple them unless they go for niche lewd sponsors. Vshojo isn’t the same considering iron mouse and nyanners used to get the most support as the “family friendly” members but that changed as well.
Now every member is a sub under another organization for sponsors. Shylily said on stream that it’s hard to get sponsors because of her branding which is why she joined mythic. More personal growth being a whore but it doesn’t help the company at all.

For those bringing up avtubers those are normally jp and they get sponsored anywhere because Japan is degen country. Anime girls get lewded it’s just how things are if a kid gets awakened to it then it’s the parents fault for being unable to think of a half clothed big titty cat girl as wholesome. If she just wants to whore out she can go on fc2 but if it’s about money and growth reining her in is smarter.

They can have the best of both worlds by selling it as r18 voice packs on the company site. Don’t label it R-18 but make it so you have to be 18, the little checkbox, to purchase on the site.

>>48299535
? Aw yes Biden as a president, states allowing runaway children to get free transition, murder up the ass.

Ahahahah

>>48296927
A mix of both having sociopathic and narcissistic tendencies trying to grab the cash like it's on sale. On one hand management has no real vested interest in their talents as people since they're only contracted and are mainly focused on building brand image to attract investors before cashing out. On the other hand the talents are mostly cluster B personality types and genuinely need a team to tard wrangle them so they don't self destruct and then try to implode the company after leaving.

>>48298982
About 5% of jobs in the US were engineering in 2016-2017ish unless you think this jumped up to 50% today and that every single one of them is breaking the law you’d still be wrong.

>>48299766
No it’s because everyone thinks nijisanji/hololive was built in a week and see no long term growth. Some are black companies like wactor or being ripped off based on vei’s words. All the others follow the industry standards and are surprised they aren’t making more or think they’ll make more on their own/a better company.

>>48300086
The question was
>Why do so many companies struggle to retain talent?
I'm rephrasing your answer to mean because black company or talents think they'll make more being indie

>>48299911
Give him a break he’s retarded and an engineer. Not his fault

Fuck

Well then. I guess she was dropping hints to go support her genmates

It was inevitable honestly.

fuck

>>48301976
I cant get drunk but ill enjoy a beer for her later, hopefully catch some of the movies. I just hope shes happy and im supporting her onwards

Well it's officially over

It’s unironically over

Can't say it was unexpected

I'm gonna lie down for a very long time now...

At least steel reserve will always be there for me

owari da

So anyway, will Skye do another AC2 stream or she got filtered?

Lets hear the rrats
My best guess was that they didn't want another Pippa situation where 1 talent is basically holding the company hostage
Suspending someone for "being too lewd for youtube" is fucking dumb and probably isnt it

I just want to say that I warned you niggers and this is just the beginning.

>>48302552
Eri sabatoged her because she was jealous of all the attention she was getting

My condolences Riifers, I really loved her distinct presence as a Vtuber, she was my first Scottish Vtuber.

NO MORE RIIFLING MELTDOWNS LESGOOOOOOO

>>48302552
She wasn't do as well as she was promised and asked management to let her open accounts to start selling nudes to whales. They told her no and she threw a tantrum. Now she got a lawyer and broke the contract on very disagreeable terms.

>>48298068
>have a video of her jacking off
link?

>>48302713
Finally, thread will slow down and be comfy

>>48298068
>and have a video of her jacking off.
Now that she's got the axe... anyone save it?

I don't understand how it came to this. She seemed so enthusiastic about streaming and was always a pleasure to hang around. I had my concerns about the workload she took on considering she probably has a lot of other stuff on her plate, but I'm shocked at how things ended up.

>>48302835
never trust a hoe

>>48298068
>the whale tier isnt a issue anon you are a schizo all streamers should have 100$ monthly sub fees as a option to support
Where you fuckers at now?

>My first scottish vtuber
>Watched vtubers for years but she was the first one I joined membership for
>first time I ever donated to a streamer of any kind
>this happens
I FUCKING KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. WHY WAS I SO STUPID

>>48302888
Well Eri made it clear that they are not allowed to pull whoreshit for whales like Riifu wanted, so technically they are not wrong.

>>48302786
It was on her riifuafterdark twitter account, should still be up but I do have it saved. Im just not at home right now

>>48302989
But they're the whore company, that's why they're great. Riifu played it perfectly and that's why she was doing so well.

Where the fuck is the source for this whale shit or is this being pulled out of your ass

>>48298982
you're fucking retarded. people with no overtime pay has a higher base salary instead to compensate. that's the trade off, and you can negotiate it yourself with your boss you fucking cretin.

>>48303033
No they aren't, stop being a dramatic woman. They're a bog standard normal vtuber company and she wasn't suited to it.

As long Skye will be fine, she is the only one that has a chance in the long run to get somehwere with more experience
Riifu was DoA since the start
Kiki first needs to fix her fucking setup

>>48303091
Kilia can sing you know!

Now that she’s gone I can share this so this will be archived for future generations
https://twitter.com/riifuafterdark/status/1639433057882243072?s=46&t=VoF0NsvtqE23xPjhYT4j2w

Also her membership content should be archived, there was a members stream where she shlicked her wet pussy in front of the asmr mic

>>48303088
First week we had: Kiki making sexual innuendos and "stroking keys", Riifu ERP on alt, Skye drawing herself getting raped by goblins
But yeah, they definitely arent

>>48303148
torrent for the archive?

>>48303193
Oh I got them mixed up with another corporation, the one with the french dog, the brit, the ghost etc. I don't even know the other people in here. The first one sounds like typical vtuber shit and the other two yeah sure.

>>48303148
I like this one better https://twitter.com/RiifuAfterDark/status/1644313958873202688
Cunny + Futa god damn

>>48303265
that's idolEN

>>48303265
>idol shill is retarded
no surprise here

Its actually over... I'll come back to visit /eien/ occasionally... I really enjoyed the early days of the thread and all the OC that was created here, I really enjoyed how much we were able to meme. While the thread did have it's shitted moments, it also had some fun moments. I enjoyed when something funny happened, or when we all drew stuff together. This stupid hat edit was one of the first things I've ever made for a vtuber and I never expected it to be something she ended up liking that much. I hope things go well for everyone, and I hope the streams are still enjoyable.
I also apologize for my blogpost.

Riifu was the only one I could catch live so I guess Im done now

>>48303193
>Skye drawing herself getting raped by goblins
There is literally nothing particularly weird in chuuba making or commisisoning their own porn.
A lot of vtubers that orbits Hololive just fine and are well respected by the Holos themself from all branches do far worse than drawing themself getting GOBBED

Kilia won

>>48303193
What does the law say about prostitution in Flipland? If the 'selling nudes to whales' (people who paid) is correct, then it's much different from any of that.
Chuuba drawing/commission porns of their model isn't even that big of a deal. Even fucking Shondo does it.

>>48303428
thank you for cursing her, retard

>>48303428
Killia is next

Everyone who isn't a braindead coomer simp saw the EIEN implosion coming within a week of their debut. They did literally everything wrong that you could possibly do.

>>48303428
She'll win even harder once she dumps this corpo and gets into EN3.

Such a shame that what's mostly a bunch of people streaming games can ever turn out like this

>>48300371
Pretty much.

Did it actually habbened?

At least EIEN introduced me to idol. It was fun being with EIEN but a lesson I learned is to never put money into new corpos. I donated about $300 to riifu since debut and I still feel robbed.

>>48303525
You can always count on women to slam dunk the golden goose into a trash compactor.

>>48303326
why would I shill for a vtuber company? i watch fun vtubers i like, i don't care about the companies

>>48303525
>mostly a bunch of people streaming game
*mostly a bunch of people pandering to tranny paypigs on Discord for simpbux

>>48303589
>on women
If only it was just half of us on this here Earth. Over the last 10 years I've watched a big IP be run into the ground by one guy not watching matters carefully enough, with one of the people he should've been wrangling being a guy who was weird enough to get banned from resetera or however it's spelled. A whole decade of extra work trying to change something instead of just delivering what was wanted.

>>48303496
I blame Discord. If you're in the agency and want to succeed, you should not communicate with your fanbase in such a manner. Or at least do that like Phase Connect, with stricter rules and responsible moderation

>>48303525
Makes me wonder why she would graduate on her own volition. Is it because of the NDA? Is it because of the lack of communication behind the scenes? Maybe even because of all the discord open VC seething? Clearly Riifu left on hostile terms with management. Hmm... I really dislike being left in the dark here.

>>48303872
>i really dislike being left in the dark here
Same, im going to need some real clear answers as to what went on to even have a chance of supporting eien in the future

>>48303872
It's more than likely that there's a code of conduct clause like any corp would have.

>>48303932
I'm expecting management to take the hit to save Riifu from further embarrassment (again)

Since she is legally bound this is all you are going to get for an answer

>>48304101
Management could still choose to divulge more details to save face

>>48303872
>burnout talentless whore quits
There is literally nothing else to add here.
She was not a good streamer you fucking coomer, all she was good for was filling void with long unispired gaming streams where she wasn't even fun to chat with most of the time and making you coomer cooming
When she got told that she couldn't do more explicit shit than she was doing already she got a breakdown because she had no more fucking idea of what to do

>>48303572
Just getting a model (much less models) in the first place means there's a certain level of capability and stability in most cases. Just help the show go on when it's needed. 300 in a little over 2 months is a bit much. Plus with how often people run into some kind of emergency or disaster, you're better off saving the money for when it's truly needed.

>>48304158
Ok Eri

Guess I'll finish those games on my own PC/console. Fun times, (re)discovered some nice things.

>>48304101
I hate people that do this. If you don't sign contracts or NDAs you're not going to get far in the business world. You're better off just getting a lawyer to review the contract before you sign than just refusing to ever sign.

Who knew that worshipping a literal whore would turn out this way? Wow

>>48304101
I thought she would be a lot fatter...
Dropped.

So, I see you received the free ticket I sent you. I'm glad. I did so want you to be here.
You see, it doesn't matter if you catch me and send me back to the Asylum.
Gordon's been driven mad. I've proved my point! I've demonstrated that even the sanest man alive can be driven to lunacy! All it takes is one bad day. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.
You had a bad day once. Am I right? I know I am. You had a bad day, and everything changed! Why else would you dress up as a flying rat? You had a bad day, and it drove you as crazy as everybody else! Only you won't admit it! You have to keep pretending that life makes sense. That there's some point to all this struggling. GOD you make me want to puke! I mean what is it with you? What made you what you are?
Girlfriend killed by the mob, maybe? Brother carved up by some mugger? Something like that I bet...something like that
...something like that...happened to me, you know? I'm...I'm not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes, I remember it one way, sometimes another...if I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice! Haha!
My point is...my point is, I went crazy. When I saw what a black, awful joke the world was, I went crazy as a coot!
I admit it! So why can't you? You're not unintelligent, you must see the reality of the situation?
Do you know how many times we've come close to World War III over a flock of geese on a computer screen? Do you even know what triggered the last world war? An argument with Germany over how many telegraph poles they owed their war debt creditors. Telegraph poles!
It's all a joke! Anything anybody ever valued or struggled for, it's all just a monstrous, demented gag.
So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing?

What did they mean by this?

Very possible she was asked to not stream as a fleshtuber on the side among things, which is fairly resonable for a small corpo because the investiment put in giving you a channel is something you are supposed to help them because they are fucking INVESTING in you
>>48304101
>waaaa waaaa contract obligations are bad
Yeah what a fucking retard, good ridance

>>48304194
Riifu just captured me and I was most likely in my honeymoon phase. Now that I have experienced it I hope I don't ever go through it again and have my judgement clouded.

>>48304362
anon you're not supposed to know the details of your conception

In an alternate universe, we would have gotten the boyfriend NTR ending instead

>>48304506
She was terminated by being a dumb whore, she did not graduate.

>>48304506
Riifu is not graduating because we are not calling it a graduation, its as shrimple as that

Reminder that this never would've happened if you stopped leaking her messages from the waiting rooms
You have nobody but yourself to blame
Also Riifu for shittalking about Eri but thats because of the first part

>>48304522
even huge corpos like Holo don't fucking care if you do this, what are you talking about lmao

>>48304506
Riifu ended her contract on bad terms so she is not graduating but simply walking out the door and slamming it behind, meaning it was all the green woman doing not being able to reach a compromise with Eri

>>48304158
I don't even disagree with you. Riifu seems quite vindictive with how she handles herself in this situation. I just want to know what exactly happened to lead to this result. It started from the suspension, but even now the reasons for the suspension were unclear. There was also the discord leaks which were validated by Kiki's own discord leak. Eri actually seems like the good guy here.

>>48302786
>>48302752
https://files.catbox.moe/t7xwdm.mp4

>>48304584
that would be way more fun

i stopped paying attention to eien for a week and it turns out it was the week i should have been paying attention the most
someone quick give me a qrd, 50 words or less

>>48304685
>its the twitter alt one
Retard EVERYONE has that one

>>48304428
Based architect

>>48304601
>even huge corpos like Holo don't fucking care if you do this
no you fucking retard, only huge corpo do not care, kawaii terminated one of their girl something like last year exactly for streaming on roommate, which by their contract is a serious violation and you can be sure, "streaming exclusivity for the company" is the norm in the small corpo scene

>oh boy another day of Kiki! I wonder how the thread is going-

I liked riifu but if shes not going to be vtubing Im out since I dont find irl women attractive anymore.

Why did she even sign up for this? Not for the money.

>>48304522
>forbid their roommate streams
>still restrict their streaming time in the company
The first only makes sense if you're asking them to work for your company on those days/hours.

>>48304770
everytime someone graduates all the catalogniggers pour in begging for doxxes and rrats

Tourist here!!
Can I get a nice juicy QRD on what happened and what she actually did?
I literally only watched their debut streams

>>48304883
no

>>48304844
Do you realize unrestricted 16 hours streams every other day is just as bad as 1 stream every 4 weeks?

I just want to support Kiki...

as it turns out riiflings were in for a rude awakening...

>>48304883
She raped Kiki in her sleep

>>48304883
no one actually knows for sure and all you're going to be told is schizo rrats and the same information the corpo's actually released. take everything with a grain of salt because no one here actually has a clue what they're talking about

Saw something coming a mile away. Eien clearly want to be perceived as a GFE/GFE-lite agency, and the NSFW accounts were containment for the inevitable degeneracy of the fanbases to separate it from the forward, sponsor facing personas. Riifu has been pushing the NSFW stuff WAY beyond what, say, Kiki and Skye do, who mostly just treat it like a community meme. Some kind of intervention was inevitable, but wasn't expecting of a full on termination.

Condolences to the riiflings. Can't imagine what it's like knowing your oshi would rather abandon you forever rather than not be able to whore herself out to whales.

>>48304718
Skye made an actual cinematic masterpiece! Check it out!
https://youtu.be/Byf5L1gjs1Y
https://youtu.be/xpBLSLD0KzQ
Also Kiki has a birthday donothon going.

Is this because Eri wouldn't let her post nudes using the company account?

>>48304980
Kill yourself tribalfag.

ohnonono riifkeks. Is this you?

>>48305018
possibly too

My wife Skye will comfort me...

>>48302954
There's literally a superior bong chuuba in the same corpo.

>>48304601
Huge difference because they are big. Gura ayame and shion don’t stream and bring nearly triple the amount of money lower members bring in. Gura could possibly quadruple. Source the ipo among the 68 or so of holopro the top 20 bring in 60% of the revenue with 2-20 bringing in about the same percentage but number 1 has an actual gap between second and is double 20th place.

Small corpos can’t do the same. They need you in top shape and loving streaming as much as possible

grim.

>>48304980
Riifu is the only case i have ever seen coomtubing done right. Far too many coomtubers attract coomers and then get upset when people act horny at them. Riifu did a great job of accepting coomers, not backing down, and not beimg hypocritical about it. She could have had a very lucrative deal if management hadnt sabatoged it

>>48305036
>checkmark

>>48305018
Where did Riifu say she wanted to post lewd on her account

>>48305099
She wouldn't fart on the mic for her fans, 0/10

>>48305197
nta but considering she literally made an audio of herself rubbing one out i dont think its a stretch in the slightest

>>48304911
This is literally the most retarded thing said in this thread. Wow.

I tried to warn you.
The game was rigged from the start.

Im sorry for your loss Eien bros

>>48304980
I watch too many people to be bothered with non-game stuff. Lack of foresight is disappointing but also not? Different interests.
Not so different from people who could get bigger if they did game streams but just wanted to do chatting and art.

>>48305197
She mentioned posting an ass pic once but then decided not to immersion break.
in the secret club(prechat) she shared a puzzle website and the completed picture showed her feet

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jmrhxx6ctrw
Kiki karaoke starting.

>>48305099
Kilia? I was starting to get into her but this riifu news is making me not want to support anything eien. Kilia deserves better

>>48305273
Ok coomer

>>48264671
grim

>>48305393
Kilia will be leaving soon anyways, she is hardcore suckling the teats of holo and niji

>>48305311
Might as well post it since she's gone and all. I was one of the people who participated in le secret club (prechat).

Ooh no the awkwardness, I can't watch

>>48305431
That's just a bit of casual viewer poaching, doesn't get her in with management. Then again, we've seen nepotism hires before.

>>48305394
I don't even watch her, but saying 48 hours of streaming in a week has the same negative impact as streaming once a month is pants-shittingly retarded.

>>48305099
She's as British as Bae is Australian.

>The british once again fucking over SEAmonkeys
Imperialism is a tough habit to kick

>>48295808
11 million dollars. You sea may have a hard time understanding this fact that the vshoho corporation raised 11 million dollars in seed money because they are a corporation. “Friend groups” do not raise 11 million dollars.

>>48305507
I was there too anon...I hope it wasn't the trigger for everything that happened

This is going to be a grim stream

riifu really couldn't have timed it slightly different not to be exactly during kiki's big week. rest in piss bitch you won't be missed.

>>48305637
the most grim yet...

>>48305616
She was my first real oshi my first real step into supporting a vtuber it was a great it's really heartbreaking to see it end like this. Being there during all that felt to good and it seems it was to good to last

UUUUOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!!

>>48305564
it caused her content to be stagnanting more than the other, burnout and go schizo behind the scenes however
From an extreme to another

If EIEN isn't in the wrong I think the best course of action is total transparency show that Riifu was unstable and left on her own terms.

>>48305637
Good, Kiki doesn't deserve to be happy, nobody in this shitty company does
except maybe Skye, I kinda like her

>>48305507
damn I wanna suck the farts out of them toes

>>48305560
If sana can get in and fuck off as quickly as she did then I hope kilia makes it in somehow. Just talk to the right people kilia, I beg you

>>48305725
Riifu being a crazy bitch is all public on Discord and her roommate accounts for everyone to see.

>>48302552
A Hana Machia situation is a godsend for a gen instead of all of them being irrelevant and none of them making it.

>>48305725
>show that Riifu was unstable and left on her own terms.
The official white paper said that though, she terminated her contract meaning she walked out the door slamming it behind

>>48305616
I remember how quickly everyone worked to complete the puzzles when the idea came up...

>>48305507
The puzzle secret club was the best one, I actually had so muhc fun in it, also she made cum with her feet at the end

>>48305725
That won't happen, both are at fault. EIEN has to be careful what they say to avoid even more black company allegations...

lads I think there's a pigeon stuck in my chimney

Wait that girl who had that ugly mouse model was the one who made this company? Why am I just now finding this out?

>>48304685
was this the nursing handjob audio? or was that purely text? trying to save everything I can before they delete her from existence...

>>48304101
>>48304144
I can do explain the NDA part for you. She can’t directly shit talk the company, talk about the actual contract, no talking with genmates on stream, no divulging plans for eien, and no publicly saying she’s riifu. The last one is the least important as it’s not well hidden plus terminations or graduations always makes them briefly more popular because of tourist trying to stick it to the big bad corpo. Here’s the truth despite her vague attacks there is no actual problem. NDAs can’t enforce crimes so there are no skeletons in the closet. Depending on which countries law takes precedent Eri probably never even scolded her. People that want them to break NDAs want to see them attack their employers in anger.

Contract a little more dubious but the normal ones would be no working for another organization, no using corporate models for things not under the banner, rm stuff usually banned because it just switches to funneling and doing less for the corporation, and the 50/50 cut which is always negotiable. Most people that quit are grifters and most people fired are just dumb.

tldr Riifu is more likely in the wrong but there should be government lawyers for contracts like with the courts. Would make things easier for everybody

>a second chance to get in the mainstream spotlight again
>doesn't even last a full quarter
RIP. A good time, not a long time indeed. My Hoeshi forever though, as things go back to the way they were.
Scottish Question still eludes me. The fucking flag on the wall man. But she knows nothing about the UK and bongistani culture?

>>48305163
Just say she’s your first one. I can give you a list of coomtubers and non ones that don’t care or ask for more.

Should've just been a braptuber..

>>48306282
Do you know any coomtubers that will grind their asshole against an ASMR mic?

speedrun

>>48306282
NTA but I'll take that list

>Kiki doesn't even care
lmao get fuck riitards

>>48306404
More like she knew for a while

>>48306404
kiki is a hundred times more professional than riifu will ever be

Wait is the green hair girl that one Vtuber that shows up here who had like 16 models? Or do they just sound similar?

>>48306447
wrong one genius

>>48306404
imagine if the situation was reversed, riifu would just cancel the stream or some shit

>>48306338
>anal
disgusting. But yeah. Hang around /asmr/ sometime

>>48306444
She has real experiences as a working adult in the real world so that helps.
>>48306447
No that's the one with cancer, this one just has a heart problem.

>>48305564
Not everyone is built for just streaming hours and staying interesting. She could run into burnout or just start talking less. Pacing always makes more sense

>>48306447
Similarly menhera, but a different girl.
I do wonder how a Mel and not-Riifu collab would go down though.

>>48306481
Sorry not caught up with my white bitches.

I honestly expected this thread to be worse

>>48306579
we're all tired and glad it's over

>>48306579
Riiflings already disconnected emotionally last night

>>48306541
It would end in a brap-off.

I wonder if Riifu is here right now

>>48306447
You're probably thinking of Mel Nekomata, or whatever the multitude of names she's gone by. I think she finally called it quits after she got some type of cancer.

I know where I'm to go, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it...

>>48306579
everyone already kind of knew from how things were going.

i told you guys not to steal the marketing strategy from idol

>>48306687
Some weeks ago she announced that she is going to stream again, no dates announced tho

This will only help in the long term if they survive the initial setback. That liability is gone

>>48306772
Sorry but this corpo is dead to me without her.

>zow knows about the pl
holy mother of grim

>>48305859
>>48305725
Black corporations are called that because they break labor laws in someway. NDA can’t stop you for exposing that. It can stop you from revealing trade secrets such as the contract you signed and in the case of vtubers bad mouthing members and Eri. If eien goes scorched earth on her everyone will just attack eien even more

Where's that membership shlicking audio?

>>48306765
Honestly as much of menhera as she is, I hope it works out for her this time.

>>48306338
>>48306405
/asmr/ thread and check the pastebin they have separated between indie, corpo, jp, en, wholesome, r18, and mix of both. If you have anything you particularly want i could give recommendations.

>>48306338
I fucking wish someone would do that...

Eri cited riifu's contractual obligation to not compromise her own health and career longevity by overworking, cutting down her streaming hours, riifu imploded
Source: I witnessed the truth within a dream

>>48307040
Do you kno any EN vtuber who does coom content like Riifu?

>>48307040
I really like lovey dovey kissing and anal stuff, as far apart as those are..

>>48307176
Riifu's "health condition" never stopped her from selling her titties on her 27 alts.
Source: I saw it on my screen.

>>48307183
I would like to know too, all the english ones are either pay walled to hell and back or doesn't cross the safe line.
JP girls are based though.

A shame it happened, I really liked Riifu and got me into vtubers again. However, with the time I felt she wasn't really a weeb, so I don't have many hopes she'll do pngtubing let alone vtubing again. She's nerdy about LOTR and plays video games, but that's about it. Still hope any of her future content interests me tho

>>48307335
Riifu was the first true coomtuber, i just hope that some EN corpo realizes that there is money to make in this niche

All I wanted was the Bladerunner watchalong...

Gabe...

Kiki is MOANING ON STREAM and you're here complaining about nothing

>>48306579
There's like 4 containment threads and I'm too tired from doing this exact song and dance earlier this year. I'm just gonna look forward to Skye and keep my head down.

>>48307612
I like titties and ass.

>>48307577
if you look right under Eri's message about Riifu not graduating you can see him say he'd be fine as long as he gets the lotr watchalong and I think that's interesting.

Skye, all these abandoned riiflings need some new coomer content. It's time to french kiss the 3dio.

>>48307722
I'm sorry but I'm not gonna watch 3D...even for Riifu...

Kiki's stream is low energy in a good way

>>48305585
which means to say pretty fucking british. we don't care as much as you retards do about blood "purity". The British accent is hard to pull off for non-natives unless they moved when they were very young.

Riiflings, you WILL be there for the LOTR stream right?

>>48307890
fuck no

>>48307312
I could give you both for jp but en would be more difficult. But if you just want lovey dovey kisses miori is pretty popular. Not big not too small. There’s others who give kisses probably more often then miori but not as loving. I’ll look through to see if i can find an en that does both though.

>>48307183
Didn’t watch riifu only subbed to kiki so what exactly do you want.

>>48307890
Yes, to decide if I keep watching her or not

Gonna jack it to her SPH one last time out of respect.

>>48308005
Idk something like femdom, joi or gfe

>>48307890
I will

>>48306579
the thread is calm because all riiflings uprooted themselves in wake of the announcement

her rp with kiki audio tweets goddamn that was hot

>>48307612
She’s already at 10k?

>>48307890
Yes

>>48308159
>We will never get Kiki/Riifu ASMR offcollab where they collaborate to milk everyone dry

We never got an rp audio collab with Kilia

>>48307890
I don't know...

>>48307890
I will, but if it doesn't feel the same then I'm gone.

>>48308062
???

>>48307890
Honestly no, I'm done with her. Maybe I will try to watch Kilia, but it will only be casually. I don't think I can invest in another vtuber for a while.
>>48307840
Same.

>>48308220
I'm going to masturbate to Riifu's small penis humiliation out of admiration for what she gave us in her short time here.

>>48307890
I will a short while, I don't know if I'll continue watch her after that... Everything is up in the air.

kiki is amazing

Well, at least she timed it around the same time as Saruei's return. I just hope that Frenchie does more ASMR.

Redditfu.

>>48308005
I don't mind JP or EN. I'll check out miori though thanks.

>>48307890
Nah, these days I'm playing Dying Light 2 with friends and aren't that interested in LOTR. I hope she does content I like in general

>>48308278
have a good nut anon....
*cooms on you out of respect*

Kiki still going strong

>>48307890
Maybe. I'm at work right now so it's not like I could focus 100% on it. I've dropped my membership though. We still don't really know who's in the wrong yet, but fuck me I do feel cheated out of my membership money.

>>48308766
refund

Post the last piece of Riifu content that you busted a nut to before her termination.

>>48308839
I won't, I'll get banned...

>>48308099
Gfe
>Remi from phase is obsessed with her chat and goes on dates to stores with them. Kissing, affirming her love for you stuff like that. Con if the things she says are serious she’s a bit crazy
>Miori indie loving but not as much as remi but still pretty good. Pretty menhera and when ever she does rp she wants you to play along. Con is she likes meme ntr songs.
>Zoey utada indie sea accent likes dom rp and kisses but expensive.
>Emma Oumiya I don’t know much about her but some people in ASMR like her

If you want joi I would have to look through the pastebin because I prefer the jp versions

>>48308921
nothing like the emoechi girls in eng?
i just want to coom and get the job done..

>>48308428
Penpen, Necoma Karin, and YuuRi are good for jp. If you want riifuafterdark level you’re going to have to dumpster dive through /asmr/ for the archive of Karin’s asmrs. They also post her schedule so you can watch live on fc2

>>48308921
>zoey utada
Expensive? Do you have to drop a fucking supa to be noticed or smth

>>48308428
just a heads up, miori will be taking a year-long break from streaming in a couple months

>>48309336
Private discord for paypigs

>>48309613
grim

>>48309613
disgusting

>>48309607
Wait why?

>>48309234
Most en girls at that level get banned immediately. Ear licking, choking, and lots of kisses are the only ones that last long. But if you just want to coom
https://gofile.io/d/KynAiO
https://gofile.io/d/ZP9Zue
This should be fine

>>48309797
School

>>48309832
University?

>>48309797
typical korean parents who want her to become a megalawyerdoctor person and dont like her being an anime girl on the internet instead, so she was forced to compromise by taking a year off to finish her studies instead

>>48309797
Finishing up grad school i believe?

>>48309870
Obviously

>>48309891
>Korean
Sorry...I'll pass...

>>48310001
gabe...

>>48310001
You did this

>>48310001
why does being korean turn some away if she speaks EN anyway?

>>48309234
>>48309829(me)
Kattarina from idol is a pretty good tease though. She bought a “toothbrush,” showed how would sound to choke on it, did tier list of her actual panties, and her donothon should be lewd. Not official yet but the top donor gets her worn panties of the day

>>48309829
>doggirl
based, thanks.
too bad about the english content..

>>48310097
>top donor gets her worn panties of the day
disgusting

>>48310070
Korean vtubers tend to betray their audience. That’s at least the stigma

>>48310097
is the toothbrush stuff in a members stream?

>>48310097
I've following her since the first Riifu's break, she is cute and kind of menhera. Is her members content good?

>>48310097
I love her.

>>48310147
I don’t know if it’s just who they hire or if it’s an idol thing but the dog gave her used socks and I forgot what jew gura’s was

>>48310097
She has a brain tumor tho

>>48310287
pandering to paypigs is disgusting

>>48310294
So she is a dying lewd menhera with cute accent who has medical complication, just like Riifu...

>>48310313
typical poorfag response
>they should pander to people who watch with adblocks on and don't pay for membership like me!
disgusting

>>48310176
Gabe...

>>48308921
>Remi
A for effort, but she's not really that good at it
>Miori
She probably would go further, but the normalfag part of her audience goes out of their way to hold her back
>Zoey
This is more of the whore experience versus GFE
>Emma
Never heard of her

>>48310415
typical oilprince response
>they should set up an action for all their used clothing so I can receive it all!
disgusting

>>48310185
Her showing it off was her first or second asmr. I don’t have her members so I don’t know if it’s behind that.

>>48310147
You're just mad you dont get the panties

>>48310485
true, but I also don't like the way they set up business.. selling something for a set price is fine, I just hate auctions.

My condolences, I am only a tourist but I loved her sph

>>48310097
Please spoonfeed me the exact point where I can hear katta gagging like she's deepthroating me

>>48310537
They are jews what did you expect

>>48310631
Ah... Riifu didn't even want stuff on throne... I loved her..

>>48310097
Anybody here know if her membership content is worth it? She seems to do Membership streams often

>>48310631
Why is idol en a bunch of jews?

>>48308921
>Zoey Utada
Doxxing bitch who backstabbed her colleagues and eventually led them to quit with her SEA army.

>>48310938
>Ocean(e) temptress
>weaponizes the SEA
Im shocked. Shocked i tell you!

>>48310616
Somewhere in the last 7 minutes of her latest.

>Kronii
>Oceane
>Juna
>Woozie
>Riifu
Why is Gabe so unlucky...

>>48310863
They are owned by jews

>Idol shills IMMEDIATELY swooping in with a riifu alternative
Sasuga

>>48311215
no one can replace my autistic nerdy elven coomer wife

>>48311187
why did he drop woozie?

Is there nothing from riifu besides the first twitter one and the one with kiki?

>>48311344
She touched herself on the first member ASMR, but it was just like 10 seconds

>>48311318
Woozie has a relative with cancer so shea basically in quasi hiatus

>>48311318
Because she is based.

>>48311187
I know Gabe is a changed schizo but I personally hope I never come across him again wherever I end up.

>>48311215
I take offense to that I gave multiple en jumping between corpo and indie

>>48311430
I pray he haunts your ass

>>48311534
Gabe...

How did they get the writing on kiki?That’s creative

Kiki digging the knife deeper

>I'm not gonna leave like that bitch Riifu
Kiki wtf that's so harsh...

>>48311187
>Oceane
>Juna
>Riifu
I mean, with a list like that...

>>48311344
Dig a bit in a certain blue app

>she will never ever in the rest of her lift complete Portal 2
>dropped it just before The Part Where He Kills You

>>48311430
>I know Gabe is a changed schizo
He's still an attention whore in chat, so he isnt changed enough

>>48311212
But I thought everything was owned by da joos

I have been fired from work i want to die i cried like a bitch cant wait for Riifu to cheer me up

>>48312783
Y-Yeah haha, me too buddy... Me too...

>>48312783
Haha yeah go enjoy her vods anon

>>48307890
>Twitch
Nah