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>Shit talk about 'X'>No one actually know what they're talking about since they don't watch stream >Rinse and repeatThere, I summarized the next 20 threads, you're welcome
gays
>>48229359How do we save Mori /#/ or is her reputation so fucked it can't be salvage
>>48229154Anon this is basically a random guerilla zatsu that Polka started on a whim and it's already crossed Kiara's latest Holotalk - that was planned, advertised, and promoted to everyone within the fanbase.Production value is never the thing that Holofans prioritize, entertaining content is.
>>48224283
>>48229708Just the way I like it
>>48229735She let herself go. Why people think she can maintain her shape after they saw her cosplayed at herself during induction into vshojo is beyond me.
Mumei should have been in it and not shitrys
https://twitter.com/armoredcore/status/1651587012342980610ALRIGHTWHICH HOLO WILL PLAY IT FIRST
Yorumin is SEX
>Chinman 35k for a paid promotionHe still got it.>stream numbers collapsUmm, reverse Z?https://vrabi.net/video/QakKTYkGBC4
Top 10 CCV :8 Holo 2 KINGKING, you can rest now. Chinman will get top 10(maybe) today.
My prediction about EN3 would be around July, Their last tweet about actively searching for female talents was early February 2023
>>48229802Patra
>>48229802https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1651591638060265473
>>48229727I really don't know if her solo streams are better, but every collab with the other holos she use that sugary fake ass voice and talk like shes explaining basic math to a bunch of slow kids, does that really entails (You) to click on one of her streams?
armpits are NOT sexy!
Why didn't you use Pekora for the OP, retard? Midnight already passed.
reminder that these are the new first army members
>>48229727>take a break>let all the bad rumors die down>come back with a cool image, nobody likes tardDad
>>48228679> All that excuse of "male Collab" is nonsense that's merely just the final deal breaker if the content of the vtuber is already dogshit from the beginning.Interesting, that gives more credence to the theory that EN folks that got into VTubers through Myth developed high standards for chuubas thanks to them exhibiting their talent during debut itself (except Kiara, who just menhera'd the fuck out seeing complaints about her translating stuff she was saying mid-stream), and because of Myth being the trailblazers as well as being the only "good" ones on the scene. Pikamee and Hana were the biggest "EN" VTubers before Myth's debut, and they were no competition at all.People that got into them later on, e.g. with Council or Lazulight just adopted the Hololive mentality of "positivity" and just watched the new girls even though they weren't particularly talented or entertaining - because other than Myth these were the only other EN chuubas around for a long while.But thanks to the EN VTuber scene expanding, there's a lot more options nowadays, but a large part of the EN audience are still watching Holos out of habit, even though they realize that the early times where they had multiple projects, collabs, and generally streamed a lot more, has long since passed.And so there's two types of EN fans, the ones just looking for an excuse to change their time sink habit (male collabs) and those that want EN3 to debut so that they can still remain within the comfy Hololive ecosystem but still try "new" VTubers and diversify, and hope for a return to the early days.
https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1651481246734901248https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1651481246734901248https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1651481246734901248>Marine gets relegated to an assist>He prioritized Aki and god damn Coco over Marine
King really doesn't like Valorant. Him streaming for only 1 and half hours is extremely unusual.
>>48229824isn't that a shadow realm of verification?
>>48229407Really want Koyo to get her 1m. She deserves it.
>>48229827>same anni month as tempissYeah right, as if omega would allow girls to btfo his boys.
>>48229880she doesn't use that voice when she collab with the bois
>>48229727for a vtuber to be popular they need a good design, a nice voice and a likeable personalityShe has a nice voice, a good design but her personality alone outweighs those buffs into the negatives
So is this thread really so pathetic in its attempts to shit on non-JP holos that its now trying to proclaim them failures because they can't read one of Japan's multiple alphabets as well as the JPs themselves?
>>48229821Every time i check her out, she sounds more and more like a 13 year old Hag.I can't explain it.Nose and Beni are getting towards that Lui voice too.
I know it has already way passed this point but the thing that makes me dislike Mori is her reluctance to learn Japanese for real despite staying in the country for half her life. Imagine some third worlder moved to America or Britain and still can't speak English 10 years after they moved in.
>>48229899
It's already three years and Moru still stuck at basic stacking with the most basic material. I don't think she will ever get good with MC
So, RPR and Axel got called gross fags by everyone, Got into a fight over a girl in front of Towa, Crashed both their numbers and scared off Kagura Nana. Inviting westerners to a nip rust server was a mistake.
>>48229961it's just 1 anon
>>48229954>good design>pink hairEhh
>>48229945ofc but good luck to get THE SQUAD tourists to consume your daily content or engage in every metric that isn't clipwatching.
>>48229992Nice fanfic
>>48229926Is there any other good fps game in the market now? Japs have a distinct dislike for CSGO and MW3 for some reason.
>>48229942Omega still in Hololive??
>>48230021waiting for the shippers to pick up on it
>>48230009>clipwatching*second hand clipwatching
I think HoloX Minecraft event will flop like last year Sports Fest
>>48229961You post like a woman
>>48229824does anyone watching know if there were technical problems during the dip?
>>48230037Jap is now Omega
>>48230006I think design wise Gura and Mori takes the cake for Myth.
>>48229359Just…don’t care about stream numbers? She got music numbers on her side right? Streaming numbers not gonna do shit for her
>>48230021Some anons will just believe everything people do in a game is real.>>48229992Also, what else happened that stream clip watcher?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18p0nTPVJig
>>48230086Nah
>>48230021>They tried to push their fujo bait shit and got called gross by Astel and told no by Gamma>Kagura Nana dragged Axel around to live out her fujo fantasies>RPR got pissed and said axel betrayed him and got in an argument in front of Towa.All this happened. Btw I got all the info from clip titles cause I didn't want to watch any of them.
Porka seems to be very active lately.
>>48230068Nothing noticeable, stream was normal then numbers dropped all of a sudden and rose back.
>>48230006>>48230086if the quality isn't that bad magni-level, it's just the matter of preference
>>48230115I didn't watch the clips or the streams sir, I simply looked at the clip titles and pieced this completely accurate information together. >>48230124
>>48230115That clip just reeks of twitchfaggotry
>>48230124based
>>48230037Demoted to Tempus only manager, Dimitri Jap is the new guy and he hates tempoop
>>48230139I like the way she shill Pekora tourney. The way her and Pekora shill on social media is extremely similar in tone
>>48230193>he hates tempoopProof?
>>48229727I'm sure face reveal would get many tourists
>>48229942Omega is no more. He got replaced by Jap
>>48229727If EN3 debuts and people have fun with them, fans will forget that they hate Mori and won't mind watching some of her content.
>>48230124>Not even watching clips>making rrats out of clip titlesThis... is next level.
why would you ever stream Thief Simulator a second time
Don't watch enough JP to tell but are there fanbases which hate each other enough that holo playing X solo gets higher numbers than if another holo joined?
>>48230068Looks like a graph when you stream and play a premiere at the same time. If there's no such thing, bot.
>>48230193>he hates tempoopI want proof of this
>>48230068No lag or change in content. Just exactly 10k viewers simultaneously leaving and returning 5 minutes later. Totally normal niji viewer things
>>48230124based clipstitlewatcher
>>48230263Is this her lowest gaming stream this year?
>>48230114Isn't that what she did with whole spamming Persona? Maybe J-chad the numberfag got to her.
>>48230272something something tempiss complained their project got cancelled
>>48230263She likes it
>>48230263>stream Minecraft on JP hours>nobody joins>stream giga debuff the next day>MC server full of peopleI kinda feel for her but this is her fault
>>48230268Not even 35P and nousagi exude that behavior. If you put the 2 of them in 1 stream those 2 fanbases would still watch it because their love for their oshi is bigger than their hate for the other fanbase
>>48230297pretty sure she got less than that with Fire Emblem
>>48230193Well I know about Tempus2 get ignored by the EN girls and rarely get any events compared to Tempus1 but what else?
>>48229154 I really wish the irony of this post wasn't lost on you
>>48229920I want to sex my mugu mugu wife
>>48230315What project? The only thing i remember was the managers sucking Axel's dick for that holopro cover
>>48230124this is next level...
>>48230297it's already beating at least 3 FE:E streams in the past 2 months
>>48229641/news/ anchorReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from the last thread:>3 NijiEN talents to appear in meet and greet during CW Taiwanhttps://twitter.com/CW_TAIWAN/status/1651051191978332160>NijiJP & EN sponsored Honkai Star Rail streamshttps://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1651360511370428417>Umesea (Chole, Marine, Auqa) collab with Yoshida Kanko online shophttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651421738071375872>Tsuna Nekota outfit revealhttps://twitter.com/tsuna_nekota/status/1651164225631588352>Hololive Sankisei X Aniplus Cafe rerun in S. Korea, scheduled for Mayhttps://twitter.com/ANIPLUS_SHOP/status/1651511541328646144?s=20>Choco-sen new outfithttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651512160303091712>Ollie and Risu guest appearance at Comic Frontier (Indonesia), May 7th,https://twitter.com/comifuro/status/1651511522802438144>Cover FY2023 earning correctionhttps://cover-corp.com/ir/news/230427_COVER%20Corporation_Notice%20of%20Revision%20to%20Full-Year%20Earnings%20Forecast.pdf>old news>NijiJP new all male wave, 4 chuubas, debut relay April 29th, JST https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1651059361517821952>Silvervale, Vei to leave VShojohttps://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1651088889078005760>Subaru Koyori Sausage Legend 2 collab eventhttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651149585568641026>VReverie Gen 2 debuting from April 29th to 30th, EDThttps://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1649808278577385472>Ticket details for NijiEN concert at Nijigen Expo announced.https://www.instagram.com/p/CrcekxdPxWYhttps://www.ticket2u.com.my/event/30954/the-beginning-of-niji-generation
>>48230193The only recent one I know was axel complaing he has no longer budget support from management this year for her music project. We got more?
>>48229991Her pride won't let her get good at minecraft. She would rather play jump king over and over again
>>48230124This is next level strategy, I will have to try it out in future
>>48229991Sometime i think she just refuses to learn out of some misplaced sense of pride
>>48230456Guy thought management was gonna find all his covers or what?
>>48230384not sure, that's what I read in the previous thread >>48214753
>>48230330It's not the first time, she's doing it intentionallyWhenever it's a conscious choice is up to question tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-LRNcwVV10
>>48230456Did they actually get budget support for their music while EN girls needs to bring out their pocket just to make a shitty cover?
>>48230555I thought they were planning to fund all his cross over with Holo covers after bad end night. I guess they realized that was a really bad idea and nixed it.
>>48230342Honestly, most bitching even /here/ seems directed more at the fanbases than the girls themselves. Even if an anon dislikes a girl, it’s much more likely that they just don’t want to watch her streams rather than that they’ll actively dislike her appearing in a collab.I’m pretty sure the hate for Mori is actually directed against her because she’s got that terrible chemistry with the other HoloEN members.
>>48230572I still think 8k but the collab right on top of her + Fauna an hour later may actually just fuck her
Okay guys, how do I pirate LINE stamps?They are cute as fuck
>>48230572Gonna lose to kronii and kiara
>>48230628Link?
>>48230608Nah, iirc he said they’d fund his “next” project cause they were so happy with Bad End Night.
>>48230555Yeah something accross that line. Remember Axel first few cover and Holopro Cover with Ina in the center. Apparently all of them was supported by Holopro management with Axel as the lead team
>>48230565I wonder if she’s worried that her obvious disdain for Minecraft will show through. Mori seems to have goodwill with JP whenever she doesn’t actively interact with them. I’m sure the last thing Mori wants to do is meet a JP in Minecraft and make her inability to even phone it in like the other ENs that obvious.
>>48230114>Just…don’t care about stream numbersThere is no meaningful distinction between>not caring about "stream numbers"and>not caring about the loving audience that makes time on their schedule to catch their content liveIt's not even a far fetched concept. When a streamer doesn't care if the audience is enjoying or not, when they don't get bothered that a big part of their previously existing audience starts dropping out because the content is not to their liking, it does not mean they don't care about the numbers. it means>they don't care about the audience "Not caring about numbers" is just an euphemism
huh wonder who she interacted with here
>>48230609Mori has some moments where she dead ass makes it very much obvious that she is completely disinterested. Marine herself, were she fluent in English, or even Subaru would find it impossible to get a half decent collab out of her when she’s in that state.
>>48230602The girls get funding from Cover to make original songs but not for covers.I think Kiara implied once that they actually have a milestone for original songs which is getting 1m views. She didn’t really say what happens if you reach it (more future funding?).
>>48230411>NijiJP new all male wave, 4 chuubas, debut relay April 29th, JST >https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1651059361517821952>the previous debut was on April 2nd, not even 1 month>none of them got 100k subs>3 out of 4 experienced the life of a 3viewRiku, stop accelerating so fast, have mercy on them...
>>48230263she is gonna steal the niji audience, that's why
>>48230672https://store.line.me/stickershop/author/839622/en
>>48230725Just stream souls game, yo? I thought it was her forte? Kanata has been inclining because of that
>>48230767Which one in particular do you want?
>>48230748Didn't she say they didn't fund sparks?
>>48230710>Mori
>>48230767Bruh they are 99 cents
>>48230758second debut relay? I thought only indies do that
>>48230572Sub 30k
>>48230710That post your replying to isn't even about mori
>>48230411Kson made it into Yakuza thing, source: her twitter
>>48230851I think that's a fairly accurate estimation.
>>48229920>Aki over MarineGood choice.>Coco over MarineBoth are irrelevant whores.
>>48230808>>48230767Just kidding I just wanted to be a pain in the ass.https://stickershop.line-scdn.net/stickershop/v1/product/[ID]/iphone/stickers@2x.zipReplace [id] with the number after /product
>>48230725I know Mori has autism. I get that she can’t fake it as well as normal people can. Except I have autism too, and I’ve learned tricks to MAKE myself less bored in social situations where I’m feeling it come on. It usually involves remembering something about the other person that I find interesting enough to potentially sperg over, ask them something related to it, and work off that.Of course, it only works if I genuinely give a shit about the other person, but more importantly it only works because I’ve gone through so many shitty interactions with other autists even more socially awkward than me that I don’t ever want to put someone through that.I wonder which of the two Mori is lacking.
>>48230887I thought she was upset a while back because she didn't make it. Was that just some bullshit on here again?
>>48230811Sparks was before they started the funding program iircThe first anyone talked about it was when Moona mentioned it after the release of one of her songs.
>>48230572At least Ina is back somewhat. Gura though is probably not going to get enough public streams for the chart.
>>48230725That time Mori appear in Pekora Clubhouse stream was kind of...painful to me. Mori energy clashed with Pekora too hard and you can tell Pekora is trying her damn best to accomodate Mori humorsShe is easily the most "western" woman in the company which make her stick out like a sore thumb when put next to other girls
You Saplings better behave when dealing with Nene and Koyori
Let me get this straight, so Axel, Magni, and multiple members of Tempus are crying because they are no longer get support from management because Cover starts to lean towards more profitable direction instead of giving free charity?
>>48229966I've only started following her after the GBF arc, but I do like her young voice
>>48230061Nice false-flag sister.
>>48230806>? I thought it was her forteLolLmao
>>48231015what's her ER numbers btw
>>48230628Who the fuck use LINE?
>>48231004Tell them to not sexually harass her becasue I don't trust it to not happen.
>>48231007Sauce?
>>48231048Japanese girls that are open for sex
>>48230958Well now that we know she was probably upset over Vei and Silver not renewing instead.
>>48230268Pekora playing Monster hunter Rise who peaked at 46k, just to get joined later on by Mio and Luna to peak at 41k. Nousagis on average prefer watching Pekora play alone.
>>48231048nips, mostly asians
>>48229961>>48230061>>48231012Where's my sandwich? It has been more than an hour! Do you wanna be paddled again?!
I miss ina...
>>48230907Why the need to do mental gymnastics when the most obvious answer is that she doesn't careAlso>she's just like me frGet some help
>>48231048I used to use Line a LOT until they pushed out this one really fucking unnecessary and shitty update so the entire friend group ended up moving to discord instead. I still miss it sometimes.
>>48230229Already happened more than a year ago. Only made things worse.
>>48231130hey me too
what causes this?
>>48230124>>48230178And you're happy being that much of a clipwatcher. Mighty kek,go watch these homo streams instead of contributing to absolutely nothing.
>>48231170Male on stream.
>>48230829Not a "second debut" relay. A second>debut relaymeaning four more blokes on top of the ones that debuted not a full month ago
>>48230981Mori has this aura of ungratefulness and entitlement in her behavior. A very typical personality of a western women. I will never forgive her botched cuphead collab with Gura where Gura had to wake up at 3 or 4 am in the morning just to experience the absolute lag fiesta where nothing interesting is happening. But when it comes to the collab with outsider grifters like those anituber faggots, she suddenly became all cheery.
Reminder that these are the new First Army members.
>>48231048Nips and SEA
>>48229727Genuinely just take like a 2 month break from Hololive, no interaction whatsoever. She'd never do it but it would help at the very least.
>>48230907
>>48231225Worthless post.
>>4823117010k bots going offline
Reminder that these are the new, the old and the daughter of the First Army members.
>>48231175Could you please stop insinuating I watch clips. I am a title and thumbnail viewer. I contribute by glancing at the title and thumbnail and quickly summarizing what the clip is about.
>>48230904Nice
>>48231296based
Does anyone know how many people made RIP cover because of Mori's contest back in 2020? Did she mention numbers?Kobo gets at least 400 Oh! Asmara covers.
>>48231175Please anon, he's a >ClipTitleReader
>>48231224>But when it comes to the collab with outsider grifters like those anituber faggots, she suddenly became all cheery.That's the salt in the wound of anyone not infatuated with the streamer, the moment it becomes CLEAR that >it is not them, it is USIt happened with her and happened with Kronii, when the audience finally realizes the streamer truly would rather anyone else to be their audience but the current one, and when they shine only when they don't have to deal with their own audience, that's when it stings the most.
>>48231218oh shit, heroes of tthe south?north?west?
didn't ask, 35penis
Was it really another Peko gold? This shit is so gay
>>48231296>>48231340You guys read the title?! I only read the red letters with black outline and derive my conclusions from it.
>>48229727Take a clear break, no vtubing and no rm shit. Just go out to onsen or hiking or go to rural area at least one month.You take a break to charge your motivation but Mori has this autism about "muh hard work and eventually you will break it". Working for her early Holo career but it's clearly not working now
>>48231296Giga based. I hit don’t recommend channel with just the thumbnail so I couldn’t be as based as you clip title reader anon…..
>>48231373Villains of the north
>Flatten a whole hill>Build a stilt house on the edgecan someone enlighten me what shes doing
Sapbuds are the villains of /#/
Oh Mori minecraft didn't beat Fauna ASMRI was curious if it would because sometimes Minecraft at that timezone inexplicably does super well, but I guess Mori is too much of a debuff.
>>48230904huh, it actually works. It downloads every image of said holo.why does it work? what's it doing?
>>48231296yellow journalists really appreciate that people like you exists.
>Peko gold>Marine silver>Suisei bronzeMy predictions are always right
>>48231402obligatoryI couldn't find the one where Pekora talks about red text and bait
>>48230767Anon, just buy it.There was a time I purposely downloaded Line just to buy the stamps and uninstalled it soon after
Something of an early evening pileup with Ina drawing at 5, Kiara/Kroni shill stream at the same time, and Fauna Minecraft at 6.
>>48231548where's your prediction post
>>48231590Nice funnels for Treecraft
>>48230904Anontachi 3 9 7!Why are some of them blurred?
>>48231498I don’t believe it. ASMR is only a buff when done by sex vtubers, Fauna’s asmr has zero of that
>>48231442Wasn't she gong to play with catto? I'm confused
>>48230758Tournament filler.
>>48231500I assume it's just grabbing the sticker directly from the server
numbers has really gone to shit
>>48231649The smaller ones are preview images.
>>48231658I think half the people watching Fauna ASMR don't even like ASMR, they just like Fauna.
>>48231697Spectrum isn't here yet
>>48231498Minecraft isn’t automatic buff content. Small corpos have learned this to their peril. It’s just a multiplier for the holobox, which means you have to lean into the same dynamic that makes the holobox work.Mori is essentially exiled from the box, but even then Minecraft could help if she took advantage of what makes it great content in Hololive…which is largely acting like the JPs and having ambitious projects and story arcs.What Mori is doing—trying to use Minecraft to cover her flaws instead of start fixing her flaws—is the exact opposite of what you should do if you want to use it to incline. And by now everyone who watches HoloEN knows that.
>>48231131Explain it to us
>>48231658Fauna ASMR seems to hit certain targets for autists to be comfy. I only listened to a couple and gotta say the Priest RP one made me fall asleep at the PC like a spell
>>48231697That happens when you let Nijiniggers feel cozy and comfortable.
>>48231658Maybe Fauna has just established a niche of doing "clean" ASMR since very few others attempt it.
>>48231762Just shitty UI changes that made you accidentally click shit you never wanted to even if you have tiny ass hands like I do
>>48231741did mori greet fubuki when she logged in? i saw shion put out a konbawa and only fubuki responded
>>48231697weirdos use it as a culture war battleground
>>48231788Welp I have fat finger.RIP
>>48231658Believe it.>Fauna's fresh upload of the VOD has more views than Bae's zatsuBae...
>>48231833
>>48231833>Luxiem on the cripple tallyHolokek status?
>>48231912>israelrrat...
HOLOLIVE TALENTS.HOLOLIVE MEMBERS.HOLOLIVE GENERATIONS.
FBK i wanna breed you so fucking much you damn wonderful creature
>>48231961>HOLOLIVE GENERATIONSNot EN ones apparently
>>48231741
>>48231720Spectrum went to sleep after that 20k GTA stream.
>>48231965
>>48231912Didn’t she take it down to edit out the police siren sounds?
>>48231263stop using the website like a retard.
>>48230811Shes brought up getting funding to some degree for every song since then
>>48231936I didn't know Luxiem was able to produce such brave and innovative content as pineapple on pizza.
>>48231720Guess where that subhuman was earlier today >>48205757
>>48232010Yes. She didn't even edit the vod through youtube so all the initial viewers are gone. She just privated it and had a fresh upload which is why it's under "videos" and not "live"
>>48232005>20k GTA stream>isrealholy kek, no wonder he's been silent today.
>>48231741Mori should start collabing with holos like Subaru, Fubuki, Marine, Koyori.. anyone who might be able to deal with her autism.
>>48231802No management gave her an account that has chat disabled
>>48232034sugoi, Stephen Hawking!
ENsisters... I thought it was just NijiEN that was dying. Wtf are these numbers.
>>48232084The usual
honestly, how can you hate fubuki.she's special
>>48231277Why is Koyori dubbed as such?
>>48232001
>>48231697>gone to
>>48232084Can holojp save them like they did Moona?
>>48232123This statement applies to 85% of HoloJP.
>>48232084come back in few hours
>>48231912actual retard kek
>>48232084they are honorary nijien and tempiss members, so numbers are correct
>>48232084Nijisanji EN simulator
>>48232155Takoling dilemma. Personally I'll watch 1 hour of Ina, swap to Fauna, and then finish Ina's VOD later.
>>48232253Same except i'll just watch ina
>>48231352I know I’m the kind of person Mori and Kronii want in their audience instead of casual fans. I know this because at the time I thought her appearances on TT were pretty cool. But you can probably tell I was also only watching clips.The realization that she wanted to branch out from what made Hololive special, rather than supplement it with other interesting content, left a bad taste in my mouth.It’s the same way I feel with the squad. I like those, and I watch most of them when they’re on. But that’s only because /vt/ mentions it, because I’d never plan it on my calendar…and there’s a tiny bit of spite motivating me. The overwhelming reason is still because I actually like them, but a tiny bit is because I know they’re still hoping people like me will care about their solo content again. And I know I won’t.
Will Pekora end up getting two other golds the next two days? Her getting a higher number than the main POV during Iroha's MC event isn't that impossible.
>>48232064I remember someone said Marine has the ability to screen good and bad people. He is the only HoloJP who told Ollie to shut up and Ollie lost confidence interacting with her. My guess is she also get the red flag with Mori instead of blatantly accepting 'Mori kakkoi' vibes from the usual clueless japanese
>>48232253Yup i'll just do the same and queue Ina VOD so it comes up after Minecraft is done
>>48232163Who
>>48232253As an Euro takoling as usual I'll watch VODs tomorrow during work
>>48232148Moona has one of the worst ccv in ID how is she saved?
>>48231296Danjyarasuly based.
Fubuki is so funny when she doesn't take her meds
>>48230958Imagine reading a post about kekson in the SEA thread and believing it
>>48232155imminent shartling meltdown
>>48232337>he
>>48232084GO Mori GO
>>48231296Based
>>48232377If you thought Moona now was bad you didn’t see Moona pre pekomoon & shubamoon
Laplus released a cover for members only. As a greynigger hater, I can't criticize this move.https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1651625012250673152
>>48232337>told Ollie to shut upbased, when is this
>>48231561Take a screenshot from that cliphttps://youtu.be/Lz0TwvhH4gQ
>>48231296Okay, but do you use your platform to shill the boys after? Think of all the clip thumbnail viewers you could be adding to their supporters.
yeah foobs it's on another dimension this fucking autist kek
>>48229641Another day, another HoloGoldFeels good to be a HoloChad
>>48228855You’re retarded. Neither is as impressive as fubuki and I don’t even like friend besides lewds
Fubuki is marrying Subaru and Pekorain Minecraft
>>48232548Another day, another HoloChadFeels good to be a HoloGold
>>48232484>expecting anon to deliver on his baseless rrats
>>48232484Their first and last collab. I think it was phasmo
>>48232473eh, nothing new. aqua's done it as well.
>>48232534This is my only platform so I guess I just did.
>>48232543 (me)she put Organ bgm and marrying Shuba and Pegor with added imitations
>>48232473I'm sure YT doesn't do member's content in YT music playlists very well so it would annoy me if a lot of Holos started doing this but I can't deny the spirit of the gesture.
Fubuki please... Subaru and Pekora are the only two straight holos...
>>48230263It's kino
>>48232634She's making Kino.
>>48232134It started out as a joke. But the title now fits Koyori and it's funny.
>>48232669Miko thinks otherwise.
We will remember them
>>48232767no
>>48232548>Another day, another PekoGold>Feels good to be a NousagiChadFTFY*
Axle Rust buff finally died he is a 3views again
>>4823276780k doko
>>48232001Yeah, that’s what happens when you use numberfag lingo, retard. Anyone who does that in normal settings is a containment breaking retard anyway.This is what happens when you translate it into normal English. Try harder next time, faggot.
I wish Sora did more cat things...
>>48232669>SubaruThat ship's sailed long ago with Luna being the culprit, anon.
>>48232821That cat day live was really kino
>>48232767So this is why sisters are desperate to shit on Mori and Kiara regular ass numbers (>48232084)
>>48232337Marine's an OL anon, of course she has to
>>48231741HoloEN's management is to blame yet again. Whenever the talents talk to them, they say "just play Minecraft lol" and add a Twitch 4Head emote.
>>48231658There's two types of ASMR viewersThe "i want to get horny and listen to some noises while i coom" typeAnd the secondThe "I want to larp that I'm lying in bed with a girl and we whisper to each other before falling asleep"Fauna is very very good at getting the viewers who like the second type
Catching up on earlier streams and why did Marine underperform so much? She barely got more than her regular streams, let alone a typical collab and this stream was the first time she had so many ID and EN members all together (briefly) in a stream of hers. Is it merely that overseas appeal has died that much? Feels like a stream like this back in 2021 would have gotten 60k to 80k.
>>48232767Did nijiEN kill their MC server? Haven't seen much MC from them lately
>>48232678So why is she called as such?
>>48229981God there are people like that and it makes me mad. You’ve been here longer than I’ve been alive learn fucking English. I understand the minority languages but I want to speak English
>>48232902Luca killed their server a long time ago. They also use admin controls so what’s the point.
Fauna's just going to dodge the overlap like she always does.
>>48232891There are people that want to fuck rain sounds...?
>>48232821Happy Meowthday is cutehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-AZJj1ODbY
>>48232819>Expecting anon can talk like a normal human being outside of /here/ngmi anon, why do you think EN fanbase is so shit?
>>48232767Weird to think that there was a time Luxiem could compete with the best HoloENs. Long, long gone.
>>48232793>There is a nousagi sitting on Pekoto's head I can't believe I got featured on a Square-Enix game
>>48232944Oh you know what i mean. ASMR with a person speaking. Rain noises and ambient sounds are just variations of white noise.
>>48229992>>48230115Yea yuko and fuyo are so unhinged. They want to do a loli podcast Yuko Yurei 】[YouTube] https://www.youtube.com/@yukoyurei[Twitter] https://twitter.com/YureiYuko Fuyo Cloverfield 】[YouTube] https://www.youtube.com/@FuyoCloverfield[Twitter] https://twitter.com/FuyoCloverfield
>>48232902Luca killed it
>>48233019God, jew shills are fucking pathetic.
friend's stream ended...
>>48232893Maybe it was just a bad form today or bad content.
>>48233067Shion still up
>>48232337>who told Ollie to shut upholy fuck I love this woman even more now
>>48229961HoloJP is the golden goose, that's the reality. They have shitters and underperformers too, but the good far outweighs the bad. I stopped watching JP live after Covid ended and now only watch CouncilRyS. The talent downgrade in EN is significant, I will still keep cheering for them, but it would be nice if the overall quality of the branch improved.
>>48233094The content was okay, it was just ID debuff in action
>kuzuleech got sponsored to play love liveLooooool where is that retard who said niji isnt an idol group??
>>48232902Luca killed the server. I’m sure you knew that already. But it just didn’t feel the same for a lot of the NijiEN members after it went back up, and I think they made it creative mode or something to rebuild everything faster but it just killed any of the dramatic tension that makes these types of streams fun.
>>48232918She has the ambition of Pekora and the character of Miko.
>>48233067All good things must come to an end...
>>48229899the EN girls are all focused on their second jobs rather than hololive
>>48233167That's a story arc gone wrong.
>>48233163Idol groups don't have males
>>48233067https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRYQ-1N1FQ0Kiara is streaming right now.
>>48229992Based, trashing the rep of western men. This is ultimately a good thing.
>>48233188Wait that actually fits her so much. But honestly she's good at what she does anyway so I don't see it as a detriment.
>>48233167It's so fucking stupid that they opted to use creative instead of rebuilding naturally. >B-but we already did it onceThen do something different? Like it's just such a dumb fucking mindset and why it went to hell.
>>48231004why would we harrass wife and pink lamy?
>>48233267>Kiara
>>48232918Big Fan of Miko but growth so much after became a sidekick of pekora on many occasion.
>>48233125The star in EN is a worst Aqua and they don't have a Pekora to lift them out of the dirt. They need new blood that want to take hololive seriously not these half-ass part-timers.
>>48233230who else other than mori and kronii
>>48233285It's not supposed to be a demerit (well, maybe it was in the mind of the schizo that kept spamming it early on).
EN needs a full gen of 5 girls who don't have a mental illness of some kind
>>48230958you know what's funny is that when nunberkeks from yellow hands discovered the bilibili video it was already 2 weeks later, it was of kson being in the semifinal and by then she was already in the final.not to mention that it was from a random bilibilituber or whatever they call themselves.
>>48230748I will hope you misunderstood what you read. He said covers which the homos were getting funded despite none reaching a million. The girls get a budget it’s not fully funded and it’s not all the time. Not a single thing you said is in relation to what you responded to or the response before that.
>>48233163>Kuzuha get sponsored to play Love Live>Luna get sponsored to play Forza and MFSwdtmbt?
>>48233163Pretty weird for Niji to get LL sponsorship instead of hololive. I guess hololive is just too much of a risk for big brands after the Taiwan thing.
>>48233167have they used creative recently? i tried skimming through some streams, and i havent seen any using creative. they do have a mod where they drop a chest when they die and shows the coordinates, which is kind of funny how much of a baby they are
>>48233451Hololive were the brotubers all along
>>48229899Uh, yeah, that’s pretty much me. I had to fight a mild case of schizo when I realized all that following HoloEN did was make it harder to watch JP vtubers. It’s why I still watch EN vtubers who are as unlike Hololive as possible, because I know what I’m watching them for and they’re good at it. But I pretty much only stick to JP for actual Hololive for now on.
>>48230268They have much more fan unity than EN. Only, collabing with an EN or ID will result in less viewers watching a collab than solo.
>>48233465that's probably too much overlap already
>>48233465wathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di40hu5V5F0
>>48233230>second jobs????????????????
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>73,952: Pekora (Hololive)>40,810: Suisei (Hololive)>36,220: Marine (Hololive)>28,165: Subaru (Hololive)>26,242: Fubuki (Hololive)>25,413: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>24,184: Koyori (Hololive)>20,103: Miko (Hololive)>19,831: Iroha (Hololive)>15,322: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>14,300: Mio (Hololive)>13,971: Mashiro (Nijisanji)>12,871: Korone (Hololive)>12,221: Koyori (Hololive)>12,216: Chiroru (Indie)>12,179: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>11,237: Nui (Nijisanji)>10,462: Nene (Hololive)>10,449: Lauren (Nijisanji)Gold for Pekora and top 5 sweep for Holos in a day where the top 7 have six letters in the transliteration of their tally names
>>48233369ina's hiatus was to work on that shitty anime and her art
>>48233125What does this have to do with people shitting on ENs (and IDs) for not being able to read Kanji as well as JPs?
>>48233369Ina Gura and her animal shelter volunteering
>>48233620
>>48233665okay.. 3/10?
>>48233614Brown headcanon, pay no mind.
>>48233620>top 7 have six letters in the transliteration of their tally namesThis is the high-level number analysis that keep me coming back to this thread
>>48233620QUEEN OF NUMBERS!
>>48233687>>48233620
>>48233499It might have been at first after the server reset. If they stopped doing it, then it might have been because the hype got killed already.Tbh I watched a few NijiEN Minecraft streams from before Luxiem, and it just felt way more flat than the HoloEN ones. It might be that “knockoff of Hololive” feeling that small corpos who play Minecraft also give off.Which is why I think at the end of the day, it’s not Minecraft, it’s the historical context. Minecraft was the only thing JP could stream for awhile after the Holocaust, and it created a dynamic in that game that sustains itself by new members joining in. Other corpos who want to make Minecraft into buff content are probably going to need a bunch of Kaelas who just enjoy it so much they don’t give a shit about numbers until the server naturally becomes cool enough for other people to join in.
>>48231331At least 400? You have proof of 400+? Just so you know a karaoke or sing along is not a cover. A tiktok rendition is also not a cover. Now show your proof
>>48233230Retard
>>48233759>>48233620
>>48230315Timestamp?
>>48233665>>48233685also isn't Ina's work more of a one time thing, unless it's getting a season 2>Guraeh I wouldn't say volunteering a second job
>>48233396anon you asking for the impossible in this cultural climate
>>48233620suisei was a z retard
>>48233746It popped up for me because of my monospaced font made it line up in the most beautiful way>except for Kuzuha, "Nijisanji" broke the perfect alighment
>>48233369Mumei not freed from school yet
>>48233574So they had negative feedback from this from chinks and switched to Niji
>>48233822>>48233620
>>48230456Timestamp? What I remember was he was given additional support for his next project from management.
>>48233620She truly is the MJ of vtubing.>which one?Both.
>>48233725im white actually
>>48231741Why are you bringing up small corpos? The context was hololive minecraft
>>48233849Z doko
>>48233620Another day another pekogold
>>48233849>>48233920One of these days you retards will learn that a Z is not just a quick incline.
>>48233895>>48233620
>>4823384953piss would lie and throw any Holomember off to get a petty medal. Pathetic.
>>48233920Sorry that's a nijinigger they see z everywhere because it's norm in nijigraph
>>48233852Holy shit my dick, yeah this is a beauty.Here's a double Ayame armpit to celebrate the occasion
>>48233870post negattive feedback or this is all fanfic
>>48233841>also isn't Ina's work more of a one time thing, unless it's getting a season 2Did you forget about gacha art? Last one was for Fate baseball event I think
>>48233973>>48233620
>>48233789it's funny how that server had multiple fuck ups, wasn't the grand opening delayed because finana had admin rights, didnt whitelist anyone before the opening, and slept through it?
>>48233685This is kind of what I was afraid of with EN and probably what was inevitable until vtubing becomes more established. Every time some bullshit like retard chumbuds doxxing Gura over innocuous content, it affects the streamer.Those of us who aren’t schizos want to sympathize with the vtuber, but at the same time it makes the content shittier. So like the good normalfags we are, we just quietly leave because empathizing with a streamer for being more distant with their chat isn’t mutually exclusive with not watching their content any longer.Idk what exactly about JP culture enables their vtubers to tolerate this kind of retardation. Maybe the stricter laws that make it easier to prosecute/sue doxxfags? Although I’m pretty sure even it doesn’t work all that well…
>>48231711Yeah that's more or less why I watch. I don't even wear headphones usually, just play it to give Fauna a view.
>>48234050that too isn't a recurring job
>>48233620>>48234065
>>48233915I’m using them as an example of how Minecraft isn’t a magical “bring your casual fans to the stream” pill. The larger point was about the holobox. Both Mori and small corpos aren’t in the holobox, and both tend to do Minecraft streams to mediocre results.
>>48232154>>48232123I don’t agree dislike half the JP members but I’ll still watch a collab with them.>Fubuki, towa, laplus, matsuri, (maybe i exaggerated with half)Same can not be said with en. I only watch 3 and won’t even watch that if it’s a collab
>>48233620>APRIL 2023 GOLDS1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,037 - Apex VSaikyo 5 tournament16) Pekora (Hololive) - 244,788 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament17) Miko (Hololive) - 55,500 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Nene & Mel18) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 122,091 - Host outfit 3D reveal19) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 40,447 - Rust20) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,780 - Granblue Fantasy collab21) Marine (Hololive) - 96,062 - Pro seiyuu auditions w/Miko, Polka & Koyori22) Kanata (Hololive) - 104,665 - 3D birthday variety show23) Miko (Hololive) - 51,761 - Soulcalibur 624) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab27) Pekora (Hololive) - 73,952 - Mario tournament draw>PER COMPANY17x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji3x: Neo Porte1x: Indie>PER STREAMER8x: Pekora4x: Miko3x: Hal1x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Kanata, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY88x: Hololive20x: Nijisanji4x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER35x: Pekora10x: Marine8x: Miko5x: Toya4x: Hal, Subaru3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, YashiroThis is starting to get out of hand again
>>48234074Yeah, they played among us instead.
Oppai Pekora soonTrust Hagure
>>48234075>Those of us who aren’t schizos>retard chumbuds doxxing Gura over innocuous contentLMAO
>>48234122>>48233620
>>48234022Could have been the top 11 if Miko, Iroha and Mio went by their other names.
>>48234229>>48233620
>>48231331Looks like 424 based on the youtube hashtaghttps://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ripremixentry
Tell me anons, how is nijisanji gonna win with pekora not being limited from making her own tourneys now? One of these days she's gonna do a really big tourney that could beat koshien
>>48230713Anon, some of the girls actively despise tourists and greys. Sora thought she did something wrong and had a panic attack, when she felt that there were too many people watching a random stream of hers.As a Kronie, Kronii avoids buff games, because her chat becomes full of names she doesn't recognize and she hates that. The ones who watch those indie streams are her actual fans.
>>48234281>>48233620
>>48234227I’m talking about volunteering at an animal shelter. If you read what I posted, along with the anon I was replying to, and the word “Sweden” entered your mind, that’s not my problem. If that’s not what happened, then I have no idea what your issue is.
>>48234380kroniis job is to sell her merch and shes failing
>>48234033https://pttyes.com/C_Chat/M.1668162220.A.77DThis is the mini version,imagine some of this member supporting Idol culture.
>>48234292spam mid tier niji graduations
>>48234380>chat becomes full of names she doesn't recognize and she hates thathow do you grow with this mentality
>>48234421Animal shelter isn't dox she's mentioned it before.
>>48232891I mean, think about the options you have for ASMR.>Some random sounds. May as well watch some professional audio engineer's video.>A girl with her cleavage on display licking the mic ala Amouranth. Gets repetitive fast and its main purpose is getting people to look for different content on their OnlyFans.>Some kind of whispered zatsudan or roleplay situation, could be platonic, romantic, or erotic.The third option is the only one where you don't know what you're going to get, so it's more interesting to tune into every time.
>>48234386>>48233620
>>48233499They’ve made jokes about “finding materials and finishing buildings off stream” in a Pomu-Selen collab before when they were building some train station.
>>48234380It’s just a classic case of multiple anons using the same phrase to mean different things. Yes, there are cases of “not caring about numbers” that make sense, like what you just described I’ll choose to overlook the fact that you seem to be a kronieBut you have to admit, a lot of anons (some might be falseflaggers) who use “doesn’t care about numbers” as cope when the vtuber is clearly successful enough that they’ve stopped giving a shit about viewers too.
>>48232893You’re just a retarded newfag. Everybody knows id and half of en is a huge debuff
>>48234540>>48233620
>King promotion videos58>Pekora promotion videos28The hololive brand is toxic to sponsors. The only big name they have backing them up is Capcom.
>>48234450I'm not seeing a lot of negativesit's been 2 years, move on already
>>48233062It’s the small numbers thread what’s wrong with small numbers
>>48234505I know. I mean that chumbuds originally used to that find her Facebook account or whatever the fuck, and Gura realizing she can’t mention something as innocuous as that (because the basic area where she lives was already known because of pl shit or something) without getting doxxed made her paranoid.
>>48233620>>48234594
Oh no no no vesties what are we going to do
>>48234666based pekora not inviting the m*le collabers to her mario stream
>>48234380A shame that she's only losing familiar names not gaining them. She's basically reliant on tourists at this point
>>48234666>>48233620
>>48231741What do you think of Vspo Minecraft?
>>48234678FAN DEMAND
>>48234187Here's a fun stat for Pekora. Of the 105 streams so far this year 65 % was on the podium. Add to that she has more golds than combined silver and bronze.
>>48234247The world isn't ready yet for that kind of convergence
Oh shit that's pretty cool. The light novel one of the NijiJP members Natsume wrote "A Misanthrope Teaches a Class for Demi-Humans" got picked up for English translation by yen press. https://twitter.com/yenpress/status/1651587209600827393
Well.
>>48234678>Your voice has been heard. Your wish had been granted.Omega is a fucking idiot.
>>48234737>>48233620
>>48234678I’ll support him by reading clip titles later.
>>48234828havent played either but i voted for world
>>48234119Eh, I think it's recurring, but not as time consumig as it would be for most artists, Ina drawws really fast
>>48234678Can someone explain to me how Fauna gets decent numbers in this game
>>48233620>>48234836
>>48234292Beating koshien isn't an easy feat though. I honestly think the only thing that could would be something similar that draws on a jp normie tourist crowd. So if not baseball maybe divegrass of some form? But then again Koshien is a culture phenomena irl as well.
>>48234882Good, it's the better option
>>48234663>chumbudsWhy are you blaming them when it was all done from lolcow. It's just dramafags looking for dirt.
>>48234678Feels like Fauna is the only one in EN, stars or hololive, that can squeeze any amount of buff juice out of that game.
>>48234918>>48233620
>>48234663>chumbudsAh yes, the same "chumbuds" that attacked Fubuki and Iofi, amirite? Fucking retard.
>>48234890Cute girl vs oji-san
>>48231007Again, opportunity cost. The original idea was to invest heavily in Tempus at debut, so that they're given every opportunity to succeed, which makes sense in the first few months, but no longer. Assuming, EN is basically one branch and aren't seperate entities like in JP, it doesn't make sense in taking investment money from the girls and giving it to the boys where the financial return is significantly smaller. The boys have to earn their funding just like everyone else now.
>>48234828IRyStocrats, pick SMW at least the engine is similar, SM3 is a frustrating experience and useless for "practice" if they are gonna play SMM for the tournament.
>>48234247Feels like it has to do with memorable short Jap names (or cover's recommendations of such)
>>48234678WATCH MORE CLIPS SISTERS GO GO GO
>>48234828why wouldn't she just play the game the tournament is for?
>>48234569Numbers are only relevant when my stremmer has good numbers. If they don’t then that means that CCV is useless, VOD views are fake, Dono’s and superchats are somehow all done in ARS, and so on. Unless of course my shit stremmerchuba has high numbers in one of those! Then that’s very relevant and important! (See: that one Homobeggar who only posts the Tempisspoops gifted subs and donos but will never mention their ccv or vod views)
>>48234974>>48233620
>>48233167>>48233167They prioritized "speed" over everything else just like all their other branch-wide decisions, but this is one where we can't blame that shit on management.Luca fucked up for sure, but the worst part was that the position they were in was honestly one of the best opportunities they had for an "underdog" style story arc of "rebuilding after a calamity".Everyone working together, collecting materials both on stream and off, checking with the members on what buildings were lost and recreating them to the best of their ability, Luca maybe working his ass off 24x7 gathering materials as a penance for his fuckup, and an all around exercise in camaraderie which would end up with all of them becoming even closer friends after sharing the burden... just IMAGINE the sheer amount of kino they could have constructed and the new audience they could have acquired from just pure word of mouth.Instead they were like "welp, can't be assed, let's go creative mode and fix that shit".It's like in the finale of the story, after the heroes have been defeated once by the demon lord, an author insert just comes in and deletes the demon lord.It "solves" the in-universe issue and "saves the world" but it's a fucking boring story to read about.
>>48234890She's established a NL-adjacent island within Hololive that allows her to get 8-10k on games like this, Papa's Freezeria, Dredge, etc.It's kind of funny really, she really is living her dream out.
>>48234890Fauna is entretaining
More armored core trailer just dropped, can't wait for more kino
>>48234678I don't think the clip watching strategy is working
>>48234678>Ah, we can't debut EN3 now because we killed - I mean, the branch inexplicably died.
>>48234890Maybe skill issue? Pretty fun to watch freelance mode when streamer is fun.
>>48235024d-don't forget about the merch r-right girls(male)
>>48235062>>48233620
>>48235042If she's doing this, I'm pretty sure she's never played a 2D Mario before or she hasn't played enough to be confident. There's literally NO reason not to jump into Mario Maker otheriwse.
>>48233499The problem with Niji MC is they aren't using it as a hub of shenanigans like Holo MC is. If something bad happens, they get mad and then quit. Holo MC is not that way.
>>48231007Where is this coming from suddenly? I mean I don't doubt it but did somebody say something recently besides the already known StarsJP and Axel stuff? I don't think I've seen magni mention anything.
>>48234678This game is actually fun and can be entertaining to watch. It’s unironically a skill issue if chubas get debuff numbers from this. They should all be playing the hardcore freelancer mode and grinding to finish the entire contract. If not, then it’s boring.
>>48235109You know, at some point the merch numbers are so low it must just be management buying it.
>>48234890Fauna is excellent at talking while playing so pretty much any game that gives her a chance to do that she can do well with. Too bad Nowa doesn't have a reputation as a zatsu specialist or anything
>open archives>someone thought that Holotalk is Kiara's original idea and not something Polka wanted to do before Aloe fucked upYay
>>48235121>>48233620
>>48233620Me btw.
>>48235005This entire mess is because Cover knew that most of EN3’s audience would be people who watch Myth and Council and are tired of them. They don’t want to waste their time and money on EN3 (even though we all know they have to), and trying to bring Tempus and HoloEN together was just an excuse to cover their asses.Insisting that you need to shut up because you can just watch Tempus if you’re bored of HoloEN has just made it clear how terrible Tempus is as a substitute for HoloEN—because it was never meant to be and they should never have tried that.
>>48231007QRD? Sounds dumb to expect support, they should try to win some Apex tournaments or something first.
>>48234380Fucking retard. Sora gets 60k+ on bigger streams and has been the host reading chat on the main channel. She thought she did something wrong so she stopped playing it ends there. Your schizo delusions are not rooted in reality.Kronii’s biggest content is the homo collabs that give her the least amount of members watching and almost entirely tourist. At this point i can’t tell if kronii makes her fans schizo or that’s all she can attract. Use your imagination to bump her sales up
>>48233620>>48235219
>>48235255>QRD?read the chain retard
>>48234890She is entertaining and can keep the conversation running frictionless while playing it.
>>48233620>>48235203>>48235219i wrote this
>>48235289>>48233620
>>48231224I anti Mori fairly often (I'm a kronie afterall), but entitlement is not one of her issues. She's an ambitious work-a-holic, with a healthier and more humble attitude then Kiara.
>>48234380>Sora thought she did something wrong and had a panic attack, when she felt that there were too many people watching a random stream of hers.Yes, not out of hatred for the audience tho but out of fear that the attention that stream was getting was caused by something wrong she did.People joke but she is very careful to ask for input from her audience about what they want her to stream AND SHE ACCEPTS SAID INPUT.It is not comparable at all. It is even insulting that you are conflating>wow! my VOD surely is going viral out of nowhere, did I fuck something up?and> I have fun with it, I don't care if you guys don't have fun with it(actual quote, btw, not by Kronii tho)>As a Kronie, Kronii avoids buff games, because her chat becomes full of names she doesn't recognize and she hates that.That's absolutely bullshit. I watched every single of her public strreams (live or on the VOD) since her debut until her psychiatrist collab (excluding that one), her problem is more fundamental than>not liking strangers in her chatShe hates her model, she hates having to entertain, she hates that people like her for her voice, she hates being having to perform as a "holo-style" chuuba instead of a streamer with an avatar and, most importantly, she hates you, the audience.It's not comparable at all
>>48235064So I’m going to admit up front that I don’t watch NijiEN to make it clear that what I’m about to say are hypotheticals. But I kind of assumed that rebuilding in creative was a reaction to the members themselves not wanting to redo all that work.If the members were fine with rebuilding from scratch properly, but management decided it was best to speed up that process, then holy shit that branch is badly run beyond even my wildest imagination. I’ve mostly blamed NijiEN for complacency (seeing Luxiem succeed and focusing the entire branch on pandering to that crowd at the cost of making the girls into male accessories).
>>48235219>>48235289why are you dressed like pekora?
>>48233620>>48235330
>>48233620>>48235335
>>48235231How is it a waste of money to hold on to the massive audience Myth and Council generated? You could have them watching EN3 instead of switching to non-Holo vtubers.
>>48235349>then
>>48233620>>48235395
>>48235373NTA, but would management even have a decision in that? this is the private EN server that is/was hosted by finana that luca has admin power for, so i assume management is hands off, like they are with their private clique discord server
>>48235349Too on the nose, nijinigger.
>>48235201Also funny considering Kiara quite literally used PolDen as her main argument with management to get merch for her own show.
>>48235018>Feels like it has to do with memorable short Jap namesNah, it's the nature of how their "syllabary" works. All of their phonemes are >vowels>consonant followed by voweland "n", standalone.That means most three "syllabe" names of theirs will have exactly six characters in their romanization>consonant vowel consonant vowel consonant vowel
>>48231410It still is though, she has her UMG solo live.
Is it just me, or are the pekolewds lewder than usual?
>>48235422It's a waste of money because it is. Now eat your veggies.
>>48233620>>48235469
>>48235401>>48233620
>>48235219This is the first time Pekora art actually got me hard, thanks. Straps slipping off = godlike image
>>48233620>73,952: Pekora (Hololive)>40,810: Suisei (Hololive)>36,220: Marine (Hololive)>28,165: Subaru (Hololive)>26,242: Fubuki (Hololive)>25,413: Kuzuha (IdolCHADS WON)>24,184: Koyori (Hololive)>20,103: Miko (Hololive)FIRST ARMYこれはベースードですよ!!!!!!
>>48235349I don’t feel entitlement from her, but she has definitely given off the “I’m too good/cool to be doing this. This is cringe.” Especially in the girls collabs earlier on. Idk if she’s improved with her fake perky voice, but it felt patronizing to have her say anything when she never talks like that in her solo streams. It’s just like… Mori you ARENT better than your coworkers, you are all doing the same job, except you act like you are too good to be here sometimes. It’s just feels condescending. Then if feels worse when you’ve seen how she acts on the TT podcast, or the mixed collabs, and you suddenly see her perk up. Lame
>>48235458Anon even most Americans don't understand the difference between "Then, Than", "There, Their, They're", and "To, Too".
>>48233620>>48235586
>>48235219I need sauce
>Ina and Fauna having 10k minecraft streams is actually le bad>even the runts of EN can get 10k with block game buffJPnigs...... regroup. What's our next cope?
>>48235651 (me)nvm found ithttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/107177433
>>48235354Kronii is just learning to hate herself like a man might. She’s realized that all of what gives her self worth is secondary to her visible traits. Good voice actor? Yah because she sounds hot. She doesn’t like being liked because she’s got a sex model and sounds hot? Bummer.
>>48235682kek, are you falseflagging to get people to shit on Mori and Kiara Minecraft numbers?It wouldn't work, people have no expectations for them.
>>48235587>>48233620>>48235572hand picked older illustrations of her (ran out of new ones)
>>48235616sadly i'm no burger and i see the difference
>>48235643>>48233620
Watch Shion, support cunny!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0s0b81MaBchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0s0b81MaBchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0s0b81MaBc
>>48233620>>48235756
>>48235742>>48233620
>>48235261>At this point i can’t tell if kronii makes her fans schizo or that’s all she can attract.It’s the latter. When council debuted, Kronii appealed to me most because of the model. I thought her content was entertaining, although I was already pretty bored by her zatsus (which might have been an early warning sign). I fell off on watching her when she streamed less, and some of my favorite content from her was the Minecraft.I tried watching her solo streams out of curiosity after the Tempus thing, mostly because after anons started shitting on kronies and kronies defended her, I wanted to see what exactly her appeal was. Also note that I’d just finished watching her therapy collab with Vesper and thought their interactions were funny.That shit is boring. Kronii plays boring-ass games and doesn’t talk much, and the doomer schtick is boring. You have to feel bad for Kronii and genuinely be a saviorfag to the extreme to tolerate it.I don’t watch vtubers to listen to them trauma dump. I watch them to be entertained. Once they’ve been entertaining at a consistent enough rate, then they earn the right to talk about their problems every once in awhile without filtering the fuck out of their audience.
>>48235354assuming what you said about kronii is right, then what in the actual fuck she's joining holoive for ? Is she treating it like retirement fuck off money or what ?
>>48234187>20) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,780 - Granblue Fantasy collab>21) Marine (Hololive) - 96,062 - Pro seiyuu auditions w/Miko, Polka & Koyori>22) Kanata (Hololive) - 104,665 - 3D birthday variety show>23) Miko (Hololive) - 51,761 - Soulcalibur 6>24) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy>25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab>26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab>27) Pekora (Hololive) - 73,952 - Mario tournament drawEIGHT GOLDS IN A ROW!??? ASTONISHINGLY BASED AS FUCK.
Where do they get the fireworks from?
>>48235373Management actually was supposed to take creative away shortly after they recovered some of the server, but they never did. I think I’ve heard that from both Elira and Pomu on Minecraft streams. I remember because Pomu wanted to stock up on Player heads before it was supposed to be taken away so she had a chest with a whole bunch she gave herself, because the heads wouldn’t be obtainable afterwards. But she still has it.
>>48234678>Constantly pausing>Constantly asking to be backseated>Can literally go a minute without saying anything WHILE IN THE PAUSE SCREENOh. Now I get it.
>>48233620>>48235643
>>48235548That was (intended to be) implied. Short was about it being 3, which corresponds to a 2 syllable name in EN
This is the /wg2/ thread, right?
>>48235853>All but 2 featured PekoraNumbers are easy
>>48235816>>48233620
>>48235903>>48233620
>>48235845She joined as a joke. She didn't think they would actually take her, so she is like Mori in that way.
>>48235422I mean, I agree. I’m just saying what Cover was thinking. They assumed that A.) they could take the audience for granted because of the blue dorito and B.) western audiences would be more willing to watch males with the blue dorito attached.The number of people who migrated to small corpos (like me) are still in the minority, so I get why they took HoloEN’s audience for granted. That doesn’t mean they were right or that I think they weren’t retarded for thinking that.
>>48235963>>48233620
>>48234187>4 consecutive Pekora goldsAaiee?
>>48233620>>48235977
IRyS is fucking retarded with these polls
>>48234678yes and.he's still the tempiss without a single 3views stream
>>48235422Good point. People say that it would be too costly to debut an EN3. That they would cannibalize each others viewership, but the alternative is people getting bored, and not watching anyone. Viewer/fan retention is important. Keeping people interested is important. The expense of debuting these girls can be recouped over time I imagine. With there being fixed costs to commission models, debut them, and give salaries and so on. But afterwards you get 4-5 more people that can continually generate revenue. Idk
>>48236018>>48233620
>>48236069yet
>>48233620>>48236035
>>48236034What even is the point of this poll?
>>48235883>Management actually was supposed to take creative away shortly after they recovered some of the server,The explanation is too convoluted for what's much simpler1) Finana was the server admin and already used creative from the start2) She gave admin right to some of them, which used likewise3) Luca fucked up the server with that exact set of rightsWhy would they stop using creative after the fuckup if they were already using it before?Creative mode in Minecraft is a bell that can't be "unring", after they use the server is "tainted".
What's going on over there?
>>48236034>xDDDD
>>48236081>The expense of debuting these girls can be recouped over time I imaginemore like first two weeks of monetization
>>48236035>>48233620
>>48235042No one seems to be playing SMM2 to practice for the tournament, which leads me to believe that it's probably some retarded permissions thing. If they could play Mario Maker, they'd probably be limited to the single-player mode, levels made by fans, levels made by other Holos, and levels they made themselves. This makes no sense from a permissions standpoint because the level creators don't really have any ownership over their levels because they belong to Nintendo after they upload them, but they're probably too paranoid to risk it.Really what they should do is ask fans to create levels for them to practice on.
>>48233620>>48236084
>>48233167That's too bad, I remember Minecraft was a decent buff for them
>>48236138People are correctly pointing out that it makes no sense to have UMISEA include Gura and Ina if they'll do group stuff without them.It doesn't even matter whether the EN girls are to blame, it is just silly, it's like the new Queen (the band) trying to chug along without Fred Mercury.>just form a different band, doofuses!
>>48236222can they play in the jp server?
>>48235886I can confirm. I just tuned in a minute ago and he’s in his item select menu, says nothing for about 15-20 seconds, then reads a backseat comment about throwing an item to distract a guard. Has he never played this game before?
>>48235845half of the EN girls dont even streamthey think they deserve everything just for getting in
>>48231007Holy shit so this is how you guys start non-existent drama?
>>48236138AIEEEEEEEE
>>48236188>>48233620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHsPP39bnpU3.4k right now, this chat is almost completely green, not a single grey name in the last few minutes
>>48232337I don't believe Mori is a bad person as /vt/ likes to believe. Sure she has her problems but that doesn't mean she is a awful person.
>>48236138Marine becoming disillusioned with EN's lack of professionalism, probably.
>>48233620>>48236101
>>48236097yeah
>>48229880Nigger that’s just her voice.She had her mom and grandma both on stream and they both talk the exact same.
>>48236274Isn’t this is third or fourth hitman stream?
>>48236264There is the World server, no? I think they even toured it, but didn't the iLUNA blokes committed some fuckups and, IIRC, made fun of Amamiya name or something like that?
>>48233167So what exactly did Luca do? I understand that he basically deleted a portion of the server somehow, but I don't really understand the mechanics as to how he managed to fuck up that badly.
>>48236006I understand the mentality of thinking EN males might be popular and are worth a shot, but completely sacrificing EN female money printers for it just seems insane. And taking the audience for granted only works until they realize they're being taken for granted, which is what happened when they debuted Tempus 2.
>>48236289guerrilla?
>>48233620>>48236305
>>48236284>>48233620
>>48236138Excluding members from a unit is akward and people are pointing that out.
>>48229945women think of every interaction with a male like they're checking out potential baby daddies
>>48236289 (Me)I just saw that chat is members only, it showed up as sub only at first>>48236352Seems so, his numbers are rising again, he'll reach 5k again
>>48236363>>48233620
>>48236362>>48233620
>>48236289What da hell is that indian vtuber?
>>48236034IRyS types like a fucking teenage girl from like 10 years ago
>>48236081In retrospect, the question really shouldn’t have been “will debuting EN3 too early cannibalize viewership”? It should have been “is the holobox strong enough with only eleven members, several of whom don’t stream very often and three of whom are way the fuck on the other side of the world?” Remember that this hypothetical would have been asked before Sana’s graduation.HoloID is in a similar time zone to JP and has a higher proportion of members who did their reps. I believe they also don’t have as strict a holobox rule and collab with other ID vtubers or something. That’s why they don’t have to be as big.HoloEN got stale because there were all these other non-Holo vtubers doing things to pass them by. So the only thing to do is either allow collabs with other EN vtubers or debut more girls. Otherwise there isn’t actually a holobox, there’s just bans on collabs outside the company that make the branch feel boring and stale.
>>48233167>dramatic tensionThey were playing it as pvp before the wipe?
>>48232871It's the content that made HoloJP popular, they don't have to ask for perms, it gets views and the organic and inorganic interactions are always entertaining.
/#/-fanfiction general
>>48236237don't worry, next gen will have another water holo and will replace gura and ina finally getting UMISEA JP
>>48233620>>48236416
>>48236345T-chranny don't look!
>>48236138UmiseaEN is not Umisea
>>48236381Not when you know what the product is actually about. Gura and Ina can't really pick any food, if their not in Japan to try the food.
>>48236106Fair enough. I don’t think the people I watched ever talked about using/ever abused creative so I probably never noticed. Maybe they did though. Either way, making a survival server and then using creative is pointless and boring. “Congratulations on this giant monument that touches the clouds! How long did it take you to gather the mats?” “About 2 minutes” boooooooriiiiiiing.
>>48236415not surprising he gets high numbers since his model looks good
>>48236340He was rolling back the server and it got corrupted with zero backups .
>>48236034How does a simple post make me feel this way
>>48236138They (and some anons here) seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room. If UMISEA is excluding Ina and Gura, do you think it’s more likely that they’re saying fuck you to EN, or that it has something to do with Ina or Gura? I mean, let’s be honest here…
>>48236340Deleted a portion of a server and then fucked up the backup or somethingLucubs pinned the blame on pomu and finana for not being able to stop luca and if i remember correctly it was at that point some of the lucubs iirc they also posted some hard doxx on fianan and pomu fan club discord mods in order to persuade them
>>48233369Ina. Bae had school, but graduated and Mumei is taking the semester off.
>>48236321It's the "Southern hospitality" voice, people all talk like this down here.
>>48233396Normal fags don't stream.
>>48236467>>48233620
>>48236553seeking affirmation from you
>>48236340He made Pomu cry
>>48236340>but I don't really understand the mechanics as to how he managed to fuck up that badly.In order to install some mod, he force-upgraded the server to a different version. As the new version conflicted with the old, it overwrote a large portion of the zone around spawn with new blocks, effectively "formatting their c:".Funniest part is the sequence of events that followed1) As the areas close to spawn were the oldest ones, the OG girls (lazulight and Obsydia) lost the most of their stuff, while Ethyria lost some and Luxiem and Noctyx got away pretty much scot free2) Luca and admin attempt to fix the situation fucked things even harder and more permanently, as they tried to restore some chunks but most of the restoration only brought back stuff from the early Luxiem days forward>a wise move, because Vox (or Mysta?) audience was about to tear them a new hole3) then when push came to shove and they have to "take a vote" on whether to try to fix it further or "deal with it">Lazulight, Obsydia and Ethyria had 10 "votes" between them>Luxiem, Noctyx and the recently debuted iLUNA had 11so any "democractic" decision would ALWAYS be to fuck the old girls to save the boys
>>48236327No clue. I just did a bit of tourism because I love that game. He’s not even doing the hardcore mode…. The most entertaining way to stream the game (if the streamer is funny/entertaining)
>>48236437Thai, his genmates also get high numbers
>>48236641>>48233620
>>48236584Nani? Luca destroyed the Minecraft server so his fans reacted by doxxing Finana and Pomu?
shions talking about pineapple on pizzashe said its delicious
>>48236138They do realize that holos always taste the food before they endorse it right? If i remember correctly its one of the reasons why that noel beef endorsement didnt include some of the seasonal menu
>>48236425>>48233620
>>48233396Mentally healthy people don't become streamers or entertainers in generalYou need to be a bit of an attention whore to want to become a vtuber, or else you'd just get a normal job
>>48233620>>48236697
>>48236648that doesn't sound very family like
>>48234075> Idk what exactly about JP culture enables their vtubers to tolerate> we just quietly leaveNIGGER THE HOLOBOX IS A FUCKING THING FOR A REASONYou're not supposed to just "stop" watching once your oshi goes on a break, your oshi will have friends she plays with and hangs out with frequently, and would often be talking on twitter as well, and at least 1-2 of such people will be streaming while she's on a break.You're supposed to watch them and enjoy the slightly different yet familiarly comfortable content until your oshi comes back.There's a reason both Hololive and Nijisanji ACCELERATED the fuck out of their first 2 years, Holo only slowed down in a major way after Gen 5 was released, that's like 30+ chuubas over the course of 3 years, 10 per year.Nijisanji took it to asinine and comical levels, but Hololive was a lot more moderate, giving each of the earlier gens at least a few months to settle in before debuting more people.They started in 2017, and by the end of the first two and a half years of their operations, they had 28 freaking members -> 2017 end : 1 member (Sora), auditions open for 2nd one> 2018 end : 14 members, Roboco+Gen 1(6)+Gen 2(5)+Miko+Mio+Sora(3)> 2019 end : 27 members, Okakoro(2)+Gen3(5)+Gen4(5)+Suisei(1)(did not include Azki here, as she only became Hololive in 2022).Myth debuted in 2020 September, it's been exactly two and a half years since their debut and there's 10 fucking people in the entire branch. It took just 1 year for HoloJP to reach that same number, and another to double it.But once again, half of the blame goes to the existing girls as well, because they aren't doing any collaborations with each other, even at least once a fucking MONTH.If your audience hasn't had enough time to familiarize themselves with any of the other girls, it's natural to treat them as "just another coworker" like they themselves are doing. Fans reflect the streamers after all.People are leaving because the "box" is not there for EN, there's not enough members for one (MAJOR issue) and the existing members don't interact with each other enough to get their audience familiarized with the other girls enough that they can watch them if their oshi is on break.
>>48235826>Anon talks about a tuber he totally has watched like he has any idea what he's talking about: the post
>>48233620>>48236721
>>48233682Go ask 2ch or 5ch.
Mori>I hate Minecraft>childrens in chat always backseating me>I will learn with my own, now shut up chat!>"Still stuck in basic for MC dummies after three years"Kaela>Chat always backseating me>So I will do my own research on how to be MC pro and beat chat before they could backseat me>"Now, not even her chat dare to ask or questioning her, instead she give MC lecture to her viewers"Both of them brute forcing their way but in the opposite direction
>>48236295“Ability to screen people” means something more like understanding their real feelings behind the words. Mori might not be a bad person, but she’s a bad presence in Hololive collabs and doesn’t bring the genuine enthusiasm for Hololive you need (which doesn’t have to be cult-like dedication, you just need to come across like you give a fuck).Have you ever grown distant with someone and realized they’re not a bad person but you don’t actually have anything in common and you don’t care to hang out with them anymore? I’d say if Marine doesn’t want to collab with Mori, it’s probably something like that.
>>48236706Luxiem fans are pure cancer and attack anyone who even dares lay any blame on their boys
>>48236706not doxxing finana and pomu since they already have their doxx but they doxxed their discord fanclub mods in order for them to try and persuade their members that luca was not in the wrong
>>48236525>Either way, making a survival server and then using creative is pointless and boring. “Congratulations on this giant monument that touches the clouds! How long did it take you to gather the mats?” “About 2 minutes” boooooooriiiiiiingPretty much. From the millisecond they used creative the first time, it made Pomu effort silly as fuckThat, incidentally, is why Pako got shunned by the audience in his first and only appearance in the Minecraft server, not because he is a boy but because he used creative mode to spawn a rare item.
>>48236758>>48233620
>>48236034>My cute wife asking me what games she should playGFE PRIME.
>>48233620>>48236785
>>48236584This all happened because Luca and Elira wanted to do some shit Minecraft Mod and they couldn’t be bothered to just make another server. Actually retarded. It’s literally all Luca’s fault for being dumb enough to not only somehow try to mod the server that everyone is playing on, but to then actually fuck up modding Minecraft. Don’t get me wrong, Finana is a retard too for not having backups, absolutely. But why tf would he try to fuck with their main server?
>>48236584ah I remember the Pomu and finana dox so it's about that, welp viewer behave just like the streamer I guess
>>48236138check out the schizo at the bottom kek
Migo lewds are sexier than Peko lewdsUltimately Pekora's personality just has 0 sexual appeal.
>>48236574Ina and Gura sent recordings for today's Marine stream and they will be in the upcoming Umisea song, retardchama. It's still weird that they ignored them for the collab.
>>48236813Reminds me how Ame wanted to use creative mode early on
>>48236890that guy is 100% /here/
>>48236796And Mori managed to beat Kaela's highest MC peak this year with one MC stream
>>48236890>Coco flairpottery
>>48236811Does that work, or did the mods retaliate?
Can't believe Mori has fallen so low that she's leeching Reimu now
>>48235349Right that’s so believable. She funneled her popularity as mori into her rm with middling effort, there was a point when she said there was no reason to get to know her senpai if nothing creative will come out of it, being anti idol for a while, being unprepared in most collabs for holos but always in top shape for outside collabs, and the intense blu ray shilling.>B-But suisei Yea I agree she’s also ungrateful to an extent. Difference is she‘s not hiding it she leeches from bigger members to get bigger numbers and is always trying to incline. She won’t change how she does things but she also won’t force her fans to be a certain way. The song template is the best example of this. On the other hand she’s incredibly grateful to hololive and understands she wouldn’t be anywhere close to where she is without the other members including en and cover.If you’re unapologetic about it then it’s not a mistake it’s just how things are. Mori knows and admits to being awful on several occasions then she apologizes or tries to make a change just to do it again. If you can’t think of one moment in the nearly 3 years where she either doesn’t appreciate her fans or doesn’t appreciate hololive you’re either willfully ignorant or a liar. There are moments when her general shuts down because even they know they can’t always defend what she does
>>48236890Average Tempus fan
>>48236854>>48233620
>>48236890t-chranny DELET IT NOW QUICK
>That new member post on official accountMan, that's some good shit. If it keeps going like this it will be one of more valuable membershipsAlso a reminder in case you want to see the full pics there.https://litter.catbox.moe/ya94zv.jpg
>>48236890100% /here/, probably a /MANS/ sister.
>>48236896The collab required them to try the food and pick the ones they like. How is Gura and Ina going to do that from North America.
>>48236865>But why tf would he try to fuck with their main server?I think it was because he knew his project would not get any attention if he didnt do it on the main server, some people did warn him about how it might fuck the server up but he ignored or just didnt care about it
>>48235883Yeah when they merged the server they were supposed to take away admin rights but selen asked staff to let pomu and her keep it and so now you still have pomu teleporting, using spectator mode, and spawning materials offstream. They aren’t even trying to redeem the server anymore
>>48236996why, >she probably agrees with him
>>48236992>>48233620
>>48236822>>48233620
>>48236439like all of EN types like they're stunted womanchildren trapped in the 2010s
>>48236442>>48236448The foundation and core of the holobox is (coop) minecraft, years of streams and memories
>>48232253same desu
>>48236958dont think any of them had the power or the numbers to retaliate so they just stayed silent
>>48236006The management obviously has the problem of thinking that if it works for JP it will work for EN. The funny thing is they didn't really even follow through with that, Hololive filled out their rooster early on, while EN still has only 10 people in the amount of time that JP took to get over double that number, and as hard as it is to believe now that was at a time when most of JP had worse numbers than EN does now. Still get the feeling that Cover really just views EN and ID as some kind of bonus money/mindshare to fund JP or something like that.
>>48233620>>48237052
>>48233620>>48237059
>>48229735The chinkbugs found the tweet. kek
>>48236670good summary
>>48236081>That they would cannibalize each others viewership, but the alternative is people getting bored, and not watching anyone.It should be incredibly obvious given that Hololive's entire model is to have many vtubers with different qualities so that viewers can find one that's just right for them.
>>48236968where?
>>48236968>>48236849
>becomes a tempus anti in the subreddit>gets downvoted>becomes an EN anti>gets upvoted
>>48237021He did have a separate server for it, it was when he was trying to troubleshoot the mod because it wasn’t working that he rolled back the main server
>>48236686Hardcore mode isn't even necessary. Fauna banged her head into the regular mode and it was fun because she took dumb fucking risks and would find her way out of it.
>>48236890>banning all of the Stars antiskek
>>48236890So these are the kinds of people constantly complaining about Gura huh
>>48233620>>48237113
>>48236890Thanks T-chan, this is the kind of person you let into the communityWhy are they not banned yet?
>>48236890>anti-HoloEN>anti-Gura>anti-Loli>anti-Parasocial>pro-StarsWere homobeggars always like this?
Why is Shion making a cat cafe at 3AM
>>48237114>>48233620
>>48236890He's a /#/ containment breaking tard. The Stars line is too obvious.
>>48234438I don't really care and neither does she. It's her manager's job to care, ultimately.
>>48237182>>48233620
>>48236274> Has he never played this game before?Interesting, I thought his whole schtick was> never playing games I'm not good atThe growth and the journey is supposed to be kino, so I can understand if he changed his mind on that, but just NEVER playing the game?That's the opposite extreme...And if you're getting your chat to backseat for you every time then it's not (You) who is playing the game. Your chat is there for (You)r gameplay, so give that to them. Even if it's shit, die a couple of times and learn from it, that's how it works.
>>48237151that was supposed to be the original server for his project
>>48236272You mean the year and a half myth spent putting in so much work that ina and Gura gained health issues despite being relatively healthy before, mori gained a lot of weight (that’s more with no longer being poor though), and kiara mindbroken and crying multiple times. Now they stream less but en management also ruined the branch. Comparing myth first year to kronii is disrespectful >>48235845Yes money she knew almost nothing about hololive. And learned nothing about them in the time she’s been there. It’s only about money till she gets her “break” as a en VA.
>>48236340Speaking of NijiEN MC, did they realize they no longer have MC buff because Luca or they never admit they fuck up their potential long term buff game?I remember MC used to buff Luxiem especially Luca to 1.5 times his regular stream but now it actually debuff game for everyone in NijiEN
>>48233795>>48234285https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1651618586526359558
>>48236138What's even the point of the group without Ina and Gura? It's whole deal was being a cross branch thing originally.
>>48237193cute pussy
>>48237189Do they even post on that subreddit anymore other than event threads?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNbwCla63dA
>>48236890fyi, I have the same opinion as him except the Stars or lolis thing.
>>48237248Doesn't she have to put forth a certain amount of money to get these custom merch?
>>48237258>>48233620
>>48237309logistics
>>48236968>>48237145>>48236566oh, because "numberfags" didn't even know you now posting it?
>>48237333Fauna is spiderman holding the train that is EN from falling down
>>48237309I agree but I believe this is a >you can take a horse to the water but you can't force it to drinktype of situation.I genuinely believe neither Ina nor Gura are in position to take any more commitments OR interested in doing so.The former, because between her regular Holo commitments and her NotHolo commitments she has a full deck in her hand already, and the later, because her mind went mush and she can't even do her basic tasks without great incentive, pressure and complaints
>>48237333Uuuuu FauFau MC Thursdays
>>48234501If Kronii cared or was a numberfag, she wouldn't be doing this, obviously. She misses being a Twitch indie 2 view with a small community. The money is the biggest reason why she's still here.
>>48236947That's not a high bar.. Also Kaela got reapect by everyone except Kiara so that's something else
>>48237366>>48233620
If EN3 came, Fauna would've had a playmate for minecraft. I would always hate EN management for that.
>>48237111>Still get the feeling that Cover really just views EN and ID as some kind of bonus money/mindshare to fund JP or something like that.>all staff and mangement are either physically present or report directly to Cover HQ in Japan>zero intent on creating of any kind of branch office or subsidiary or for either of their foreign branches, vital to any company looking to grow in foreign marketsWhat gave you that idea?
>>48237194yes
>>48236890>If you hate how the subreddit is handled just make a new one
>>48237333Fuck yeah Minecraft Mthursdays
>>48236237>>48236574>>48236299>>48236495Newfags that aren’t even threadreaders. Sounds like nijiniggers to me
>>48237423>The money is the biggest reason why she's still here.If that was the true she would have cranked a couple hundred signatures and made a whole more money with her merch.I say she, like Sana before her, is (pardon the pun) running the clock until the end of her contract
>>48233620>>48237253
>>48236763It doesn't help that certain collab pairs have also been filtered due to either the autism of the girls or the autism of the audience, or both>GuraHer last one-on-one collab was ages ago, and she's a flake and has been heavily contributing to 'lack of streams'. >AmeHer own autism over collabs means it's a mess>KiaraFilters to high heaven, the fact that she still has as many people watching her is a miracle>InaFucked off for half a year, but appears to be back. Doesn't seem very proactive with collabs>MoriHas also filtered the shit outta her audience due to massive fucking walls of text, I'm not going there. Anything else over people accepting or not accepting collabs with her is going to be rrat filled because I only have hearsay to work off of. >IRySautismo over initiating collabs>FaunaSame deal as IRyS(GODDAMNIT GIRLS)>MoomsSick rn, but had school before, meaning her active hours were cut>BaeSeems proactive enough, but she's kinda not that great in collabs. >KroniiDoesn't seem like she initiates collabs either. Gee, seems to be a recurring trend, don't it. All in all, I completely agree with your points, and it's just a goddamn mess the state of EN is in right now.
>>48237483This guy probably spends hours /here/ trying to bait "unikeks"
>>48234380Kronii's a mess.>killed her own kitten just so she could use it as an excuse to not streamVile woman.
>>48237455>>48233620
honestly, what's the point of having 2 HoloENs who's outside of japan make a group with 3 from the main branch and not include the 2 in any of the stuff UMISEA does?if you gonna make a group, give it a name, say who the members are and not include said members into anything, then it's fucking retarded.and if it was marine's idea, then yes im calling her retarded.and if it was Cover's idea, they too are also retarded.don't make groups that you can't even use as a group.
>>48237526anything for that (You) rush
Huh another nijien fanmerch seller to a flip con im supposed to go to apparently backed out because he was told that anycolor might sue them.This is like the 6th time i heard of something like this happening I wonder why they are so aggressive with regards to their ip now. Last year they werent like this
>>48237483>just kill yourselfOh, why that comment it's still up? that's against reddit global guidelines no?
>>48237483but they DO have their own subreddit, they just chose to ignore that one and use the hololive one instead
>>48237483>chumpedoThis bloke is 100% in this thread on occasion.
>>48236813>Pakothat was Kiara's papa wasn't it? Huke was his name iirc
>>48236813Not Pako, you've got the wrong artist.It was Huke.
>>48237514>>48233620
>>48237419You could have saved a lot of characters by calling yourself a retard
>>48236763>e existing members don't interact with each other enough to get their audience familiarized with the other girls enough that they can watch them if their oshi is on break.how many collabs do you people want they're doing them at least once a week
>>48237189how you wrote the post with the pic go and make a post on the sub, see if it gets on topic
>>48237555>>48233620
>>48237577>>48237576This, Huke. Pako is living rent free in my head for some reason.
>>48237483is tranny-chan really that homo-poisoned that he's not even going to ban that guy? christ
>>48237581>>48233620
>>48237483I'm surprised this guy hasn't been banned off reddit period lol. Kys is a big no no there
>>48237570He supports da boyz at the end of the day so he can stay
>>48237608>>48233620
>>48237333why is she making a snail?
>>48237572they're losing money and I'm one of the reasons for it. I sold their stuff for cheap by printing badges, acrylics, wallpapers with AI images at conventions or online shops. Also, bought their VPs and sell them for 1/3th of the price.
>>48237483>chumpedoHe's your usual containment breaking SEAmonkey schizo. Nothing to see here.
>>48236890I have this dude tagged as "homobeggar"So he's probably just a shitflinger
>>48237511Are you retarded? Kronii likes the easy paycheck. That's why she's there. She doesn't want to work because she has no drive and no ambition, the prospect of making more money is meaningless because she's already achieved her goal.
>>48237483no wonder the subreddit growth took a dive after Tempus.
>>48237688>>48233620
>>48236890heh
>>48237718>Are you retarded? Kronii likes the easy paycheck.She refused to make a token effort to increase her sales from 30k to, more in line with the other girls, over 100k.I think she broke and is bidding her time
>>48237189Why do they not just tell all Holostars to migrate to the Holostars subreddit, ban discussion of Holostars in the Hololive subreddit, and most obvious of all, ban all anti-loli posters?
>>48233620>>48237762
>>48237303I’m assuming you’re esl then my apologies. At Least means the minimum is 400 as a starting and there’s definitely more. Correct thing would have been to say around 400. It’s only approximately 100 added as well which could be anywhere from 80-120 give or take a few. Take this as another step towards learning English.
>>48237359I dunno if that's how it still works, but it's pretty obvious that she wasn't happy with the merch. She doesn't want to completely throw her manager under the bus and is reluctantly shilling it for her sake. Her RM opened a new merch store late last year, where Kronii picked everything and she didn't have problems shilling it.
>>48237299AFAIK Luca never apologized and the fucking girls apologized on his behalf. I have a feeling that NijiEN knows that Luca’s retardation destroyed any possible kino to be had on the server.
>>48237483>tells someone to kill themselves>comment is still up and he's not even banned from the subredditI thought saying those kind of things was a big no no on plebbit? Is being supportive of the faggots really all you have to do in order to be able to say whatever you want there? It's not surprising people have been leaving in droves.
>>48237818>>48233620
>>48237636>>48233620
why is she like this
>>48235354> She hates that people like her for her voiceI thought she is an aspiring voice actor, what the fuck does she want then if she also hates that?
>>48236138>>48236890>>48237483>complaining about loli sex and yet posts thisAlso my guy pro-tip if you are here if you wanna use the account as some throw away troll acount you should actually delete some of you old post that might link to your actual social media account like your game name or something
>>48236295All the people she’s tried to attach herself to either shit on their supposed friends or shit on hololive. At a certain point you’re attracting snakes because you’re also a snake
>>48236081>People say that it would be too costly to debut an EN3. That they would cannibalize each others viewership, but the alternative is people getting bored, and not watching anyone.Well, except people DO watch someone elseWhich is HoloJP
>>48237917>>48233620
>>48233620>>48237946
>>48237960she is a brotuber
>>48237960When you're the worlds best EN vtuber, you can say and do things that others could never get away with
>>48233620>>48237917
>>48237784Because she doesn't need that 100k. It's that simple.
>>48237572Them stiil doing this is kinda funny, in light of anycolor v. khyo
>>48236996T-chan STILL hasn't even added the new boys to the sidebar, I don't think he's doing much at all these days. Intern-chama, if you're here you might wanna poke someone about that.
>>48237515They used to do way more collabs though, even the autists. There was a time people used to shit on Kronii for being too much of a collab baby, as crazy as that sounds now. I wonder what changed behind the scenes.
There's still a lot of people with misconception that people hate stars because they are acting parasocial towards the girls. I don't think people think that way anymore. It's just that they hate stars because they're taking up the time where EN 3 was supposed to debut while having a drought of streams or unentertaining ones from bae and kronii.
>>48237574>Le Hololive PRODUCTIONS /s
>>48238079>>48233620
>>48237781why is every takocuck such an insecure and insufferable faggot
>>48237988would be a shame if someone were to post all his info...
>>48237897just shut up and post all the evidence in the sub man
>>48238100UGH! can you stop sending death threats!
>>48238144>>48233620
>>48237189Does he mean the same Ina return that had higher CCV then Tempus 2 debuts?
>>48236807Do you have a single source at all for any kind of Marine not wanting to collab with her?No?This is all off a schizo fantasy?
>>48238112Kronii did group collabs because she could just shut up and let the other people do everything and keep the viewers entertained. She used to only do 1 on 1 collabs if it was a sponsored stream, someone from here fucking counted. Not sure if she's still operating like that.
>>48237692>>48238099Im just curious if this was actually anycolor or some other company that hands out copyright warnings like the ones in youtube since it also happened to a vtuber con i went to recently.They werent this aggressive for the en branch last year
>>48233620>>48238204
>>48238275>>48233620
>>48238100I think after that shitshow of locking down the subreddit they were pretty much restricted from doing much of anything.
>>48237869Pomu chat adviced to build again from the scratch together with the other members because it has potential kino of rebuilding arc but retarded Luxfags and NijiEN management couldn't see the potential kino arc and they decided to build the old building on creative mode.
>>48238253Her own personal stuff aside it's hard to do group collabs when the S in SNOT died and later the O, as well.
>>48236442Homobeggars always come up with this weird cope. In December gura did her outfit reveal once again to 100k people and did 22 streams in January. Almost every member except kronii was streaming pretty high. They switched gears in February. Where is this drop in streams or numbers that makes them think otherwise. You faggots are obsessed
>>48237970I think because a lot of those people came off like coomers who only liked it for its pitch and timbre, rather than any of the voice acting.I mean, I think that’s retarded as fuck, but we’re talking about Kronii’s menhera here. I think being unhappy that some people are only there for the model is also stupid, but I can at least see why that could cause someone to have a complex.I’m fairly sure the voices were something people genuinely liked, and her deep voice enhanced that appeal. Is she afraid of not sound deep because she doesn’t want people to link her to her rm? That ship sailed loooong ago…
>>48238100EN is in such a disarray it's crazy
>>48236968Ia this real? I see zero mentions of it in any Holo thread or Mori's general. Meanwhile any Pomu collab or anything involving Kiara gets leaked to global in seconds.
>>48237511No, Kronii knows this will probably be the highest earning career she'll ever have and she absolutely doesn't want to go back to her pre-hololive jobs, which she absolutely hated. She's already talked excitedly about next year so she will finish her three years like she originally planned and then will probably go back to uni to finish her degree. She might still stay in Hololive too, since she won't be pressured to stream while in school. Sana never needed the money or she would've stayed.
>>48238375These retards dont watch streams, vstats or vrabi.
>>48237789Because then they’d be backtracking on all of the retarded unity efforts they’ve gone through the past year. Remember the omega trivia “Hololive and Holostars are actually both under the same banner of Hololive productions” or something like that. They changed their Hololive subreddit banner, they ended collab band early for them. The stars randomly using “Holopro” more than any of the girls. Ever did. And so on. Expelling the fags to their own subreddit is admitting defeat
>>48236890The moment I looked at that post I knew it would be a bad idea to comment on it, because sooner or later some of you mfs will screenshot it and post it /here/ Thank Christ I was correct
>>48238120There are lots of reasons to hate the Stars.>Their fans are toxic and constantly attacking the Hologirls and their fanbases.>The Stars are being subsidized by the fans who support the girls, while the girls get nothing.>Management is fucking the Stars and giving them special treatment in everything.>The Stars yabba dabba doo their way into disrupting what little content fans get from the girls.
>>48237960We love faufau in this place
>>48238336>>48233620reminder to put Pekora OP next thread
>>48238445Well, it's time to admit defeat, then. They've only created a community that antis the girls.
I was thinking about what some anon was saying the other day about Roboco, Mel and Aki and the HoloBox and I was thinking about what makes each of them struggle to connect with the fanbase. One thing that stood out to me and I never considered this before but why is it so rare for Mel to have unplanned interactions with others? Almost every interaction of hers is either a scheduled collab or a pre-planned guest appearance. I had to sit down and think real hard about the last genuine time she had any real extended interaction that just happened spontaneously and all I could come up with was Pekora running into Mel and her wonderful prison…all the way back in 2020. Even Aki and Roboco who struggle with the HoloBox manage to have random unplanned interactions with others every so often but with Mel she rarely plays the types of games that cater towards such moments. And even when she does she usually picks a time when no one else is streaming the same game (is it on purpose?). And even by rare chance there is some overlap, she puts on heavy duty blinders and does the bare amount of interaction to be socially polite and focuses on whatever boring task she has planned ahead of time to do solo. It’s like she feels uncomfortable with spontaneous moments with the others, everything has to be pre-planned or else she goes out of her way to avoid it. And unfortunately those types of moments are goldmines for clips which probably plays into why she so rarely gets them.To borrow a recent term from Silvervale, why does Mel seem to stick with ‘happy fun business fake’ interactions?
>>48238482>>48233620
>>48236968Cover should recruit Reimu for their ES branch
>>48238425deadbeats only watch enna
>>48237784She had the best selling bday merch in CouncilRyS last year, she isn't losing any sleep over this.
>>48237572Wonder how they're catching the eye of Anycolor, are they being reported?
>>48237897>I thought saying those kind of things was a big no no on plebbit?Why are you threatening to report his posts? Isn't that what the evil people do to silence their detractors?It would be UNDERHANDED and absolutely POOR FORM if you guys would>select the post that break their rules (the kill yourself) one>click the three dots>click "Report">click "Breaks Hololive rules">click "Be nice">click "Submit"Specially the "Be nice" post, how can you yourself think you are being nice if you are reporting someone for not being nice? HUH?!Think about it before doing something you'll regret!
>>48238120They don’t watch streams or do anything except interact with other people who don’t give a fuck. Also, it doesn’t help that containment breakers tend to be schizos and make Tempus haters look like they’re all unicorns.The urge to call everyone who disagrees with you a falseflagger is strong with all humans, but it’s much more likely to win out if you genuinely do not know the context. Anyone who tries to explain they really don’t care about Tempus but that it’s a sign of the company neglecting actual content either gets called a falseflagger or a fake fan who’s bored with their toys.Like, no shit. We need new talents. People are bored. How the fuck are you supposed to respond when someone takes an obvious point and makes it sound like a bad thing?
>>48238425Nobody watches ReimuShe's bottom of the barrel in niji
>>48230315I think Magni mentioned something in passing about having to rethink and redo some of his planned projects. Though it would not surprise me since even uproar had some of their projects cancelled which was weird since they just usually delay and not cancel it.
>>48233620>>48238482
>>48238622obachan this time is better to just dodge tranny-chan and escalate with Hate and Harassment towards global moderation
>>48231741Are there smaller corpos that tried the JP method of minecraft?I know VSPO gets pretty good numbers of their MC streams.
>>48238607It's not last year, cuckie
It's really werid how to fucking numbers board on 4chan is more supportive than the subreddit.
>>48237515Again, I have been saying it time and time again>Hire autism girls>Act absolutely surprised when they act like autists
>>48238675>>48233620
>>48238336
another first time oh boy
>>48238044Why do you people keep calling the girliest bitch a brotuber
>>48238729>gura>kiara>mori>irys>bae>fauna>>autistic
>>48238375Unironically it didn't get bad until Tempus came. Even now when things are getting back to normal, it still won't be as good as before.
>>48233620>>48238741
>>48238768Suffer Kino desu~ we'll all be watching.
>>48238606Im not actually sure. Im actually trying to contact the person and ask how they new that anycolor doeesnt want them to sell merch or if they got an official warning from them. Thats why im asking if anyone here has a clue of its the official company or another company doing it on behalf of them.I think same thing happened with a couple of fan projects in taiwan earlier this year like the luxiem cafe
>>48238644Funniest thing was when an anon posted a clip of the Rust server and said to read the comments.90% of the people commenting there didn’t watch HoloRust cause they kept complaining that HoloRust had too many rules compared to the e-celeb server.
Locking up the reddit for Tempus 2's debut is still the silliest thing they've done
>>48238769>say random meme>"oh gosh, she's a brotuber!"
>>48238799>>48233620
>>48238607With this year's sales, how do you think next year's projection will be?
>>48238727# is supportive of what?
>>48238778>gura >not autisticanyone thats has a weird passion for lsp and has a high standing among them is anything but an autist
top kek
>>48238727The subreddit has to suck Tempus Cock and give supportive takes on all unity or else they get le heckin downvotes. A fate worse than death.
>>48238644>don’t care about Tempusyeah, this is the sentiment that the majority of fans has. They don't really care about the guys so why try forcing it? I hate how fags are twisting it that people dislike stars collabing with girls because they are parasocial. I wholeheartedly wanted to watch girls, it's just a preference.
>>48238644The homobeggars don't seem to be falseflags, they legit inhabit dox sites, /vt/, reddit, twitter, and attack the girls every day, say how much they hate the girls and their fans, and even threaten the girls, all while talking up the Stars.
>>48238886on harassment to the EN girls
>>48236890He's pulling a Lelouch.
>>48238769Pennis connect /mans/ nigger psyop
Is Mori really going to collab with Reimu before doing a 1 on 1 with Fauna or Mumei
>>48238727Because we don’t have any delusions about being a general of scumbags and retards, so we’ll just say what we think without caring about looking good. And when there are falseflaggers, people are quick to shit on them for it (sometimes too quick).Whereas elsewhere, maintaining the hugbox is more important than being honest, so everyone is disingenuous. Those who do try to toe the line between being honest and still being courteous look like falseflaggers because the official line is that only schizos have any complaints. Everyone knows that doesn’t make any fucking sense, but saying that gives people cover to call you a containment breaking falseflagger.Well duh, of course I’m /here/. Where else can I say that Cover is retarded for pushing back EN3 instead of pretending it’s perfectly fine?
>>48238834The biggest tell is anyone talking about Matsuri, the 'she was boring and didn't enjoy a single second of holorust and is now having the time of her life here, yagoo tear down this wall' thing has been making the rounds.
>>48238923>say "blah blah blah i hate right wing conservative">get upvotesis that easy
>>48238886We love and support Fauna
>>48238834>90% of the people commenting there didn’t watch HoloRust cause they kept complaining that HoloRust had too many rules compared to the e-celeb server.Thats actually hilarious since the japs in various matome sites complained the opposite about how the e-celeb server has too many rules and is boring
>>48237189anon, that's T-chans alt.
>>48232593she never told her to shut up or anything, they basically ended with Ollie strongly coming on to her, sniffing her and Marine deciding to end the stream to proceed with stuff (sex) off stream.
>>48238154That guy's an Ina anti too
>>48239042DELETE DELETE DELETE
>>48238923Of fucking courseYou can tell what political leaning homobeggars always have
>>48238923I think in the span of these 2 years, this guy fell to the tranificationgoing from pro-loli, to spouting every left-wing talking points
>>48238607Source?
INVESTIGATORS WILL DEFEND THIS!
>>48238769My bro kisses me goodnight. Don't yours?
>>48237789That’s a “holopro” thread now because reasons. If you’re keeping score the stars have 2 reddit threads, 3 twitter accounts depending on who’s manning the jp one that week, and have never had to delay a birthday or anniversary because of management. Hololive is the most backwards company in the world. Some people didn’t even notice the blatant favoritism because jp has 32 members and is the biggest branch. Ironically seeing the difference in treatment with en was what made it noticeable as well for jp.
>>48238923troons gonna troon
>>48239072Why are you even here, Anzu, go to bed you lazy shit