/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48213261
>Pagpageaters

>>48213261
Let me tell you a secret about Filipinos, some Filipino communities in alot of fandoms do not want one of those own to be Big in the scene cuz Filipinos know that this Filipino talent will Pollute the the wholesome culture of said fandom due to thier Cringe ass way of talking and cringe ass jokes are know to Filipinos to be cringe

Perfect example is Millie, whenever she speaks tagalog I close the stream cuz I know I will just roll my eyes at it and I ain't the only one

>>48213261
All flips are on facebook and only open youtube to watch poor people do rap battles

Heh

>>48213842
You're just dumb in Filipino subject, you just probably got 75 passing grade only.

>>48213261
>ONLY ONE (1) actual corpo representative
More like you only know one when there's many of them actually. It's like saying you only know hololive and Nijisanji are the inly Japanese corpo of vtubers in Japan.

>>48214028
kobo is only popular because she was in hololive. Any indie vtuber from indo that became well known internationally like Purin or Kaheru of PHvtubers? No one.

>>48214028
Heck, only indo people watching their own indo vtubers while Lots of western countries like U.S, Europe, Latin Americas and even some SEA people are watching Filipino indi vtubers due to their advantage to speak English fluently.

>>48213842
lemme guess, you're a self-hating robredofag, aren't you?

This reminds me of Niji ID. Oh wait! there was no Niji ID anymroe because It was a failed experiment market lol.

>>48214897
He's just a clown that pretends to be a cool kid wanna be by hating his own language in the internet. Shame on him. He's probably has low IQ and don't have enough love from his parents.

>>48214015
You probably don't know a lot of Filipinos then bozo. Those people you mentioned are like 8% of the population of the country today right now and It's 2023, 2010's is the peak of fliptop or rap battle in the country. Bro, you still living under the rock?

>>48214850
>Purin or Kaheru
who?

>>48215170
Stop living under the rock.

>>48213261
Is fine, we can understand English.

>>48214892
> Lots of western countries like U.S, Europe, Latin Americas and even some SEA people are watching Filipino indi vtubers due to their advantage to speak English fluently

> speak English fluently

Hololive PH when?

>>48215221
some sea people really think Filipinos only speak tikito tikita like other pacific island nations?

They need to start studying more then.

>>48215247
Soon.

>>48215247
holy mother of ESL

>>48213261
You mean what went right?
Be careful of what you wish for

>>48214015
Lmao I just saw someone watch rap battles and old FPJ action movies on the bus just recently
You’re actually right

>>48213261
And she got worse when she became corpo. If there's any example of a indie becoming worse when she became corpo, Lyrica is the greatest example

>>48213261
Arent they big fans of Niji EN?
Seems like they don't need explicit representation to enjoy vtubers.

>>48213842
>the filipino pride!!!!!!!!!!
oh nononononono this dude is a self hating flip kek what a bitch

>>48213261
Because they're too strong

I would hate it if a PH vtuber gets featured in the local news, I’d probably see the same garbage I see in the catalog, but in my native language
>vtubers are just males with voice changers!
>oh wow vtubers make a fuckton of money, I will be a vtuber myself
>boomers asking wtf a v toober is (cartoons, anime and similar artstyles = children’s content according to boomers)
I’m not a self hating flip but weeb communities here are the fucking worst, and I would like to stay away from them as much as possible.
I even avoid talking about vtubers whenever someone from a friend group or work talks about them

>>48214850
The only decent sized English speaking ID indie that I know of is splendiferachie

>>48213842
Don't listen to these tagalogs bro.
"The Philippines" was never meant to be one country, and cringing when you hear tagalog and forced patriotism is the normal response.

>>48214892
>speak English fluently.
With an American accent too, yuck

>>48213261
Unironically not worth it because the Vtubing scene will never top mainstream favorites as of the moment such as K-drama and whatever shit local youtubers put out. Also, I would not envy any corpo trying to fulfill a niche market here given the red tape, corruption, and bureaucratic bullshit that they would inevitably face. Furthermore, there is no point creating another corpo here since existing Flip consumers would prefer Hololive, Nijisanji and whatever else due to their own fluency in English that there is no significant demand for a Vtuber that would focus on Tagalog streams and whatever regional languages the Philippines has.
Given all this, it would be in the interest of any future Flip chuubas to join that lone corpo, become an indie, or join an international corpo instead.

>>48213261
We love Koreans more than the japanese.

>>48213842
>another self-hating flip
Grow up.

>>48217643
I've never understood why you'd keep that name, seems megacucked.

>>48214897
Not a self hater, but
>Being a marcuck

>>48214743
Name one

>>48214897
>bringing ph pol here
Magbitay ka na

>>48214926
>ID
Indonesia isn't the Philippines though?

Somewhat off-topic but the insults with poor grammar are kind of unpleasant to read.

>>48214897
>>48218427
rent free
you guys should kiss

>>48215170
literal who

>>48218017
Filipinos have a pretty thick accent. H2 workers in my area a mostly Flips, and even if they all speak English, their accent is pretty cringe.

>>48218021
Speaking of corruption, imagine if there was a PH vtuber with at least 1M+ subs
>fleshtubers and TV celebs begging for a collab because it’s the “hot new thing” (vtubing isn’t really that popular yet unless you participate in weeb circles and events like conventions and shit)
>after seeing the flood of superchats our hypothetical PH corpo vtuber makes, BIR will cause a scene again and asks vtubers and other youtubers to pay their fucking taxes
I still think a PH Kobo has the potential to make bank here, I don’t watch Millie but I don’t even think she panders that much to flips

>>48218394
I could give you a pretty good answer from a r*ddit comment

>>48219162
millie is a hopeless case.
she's so detached from the average flip even if she tries to cater she can't. not to mention she literally seethe at her filipino fans.

>>48213261
It's because these brown-skinned English-speaking niggers will do anything to be seen as equal to their colonizer masters, but it will never happen as long as these jap corpos keep chasing whites and east asians into their roster (either because they're looking for people who look like they speak english, or because they look familiar to their own). Your only shining example of a flip corpo rejected a proposal from Moona to join HoloID because they weren't HoloEN; the dumb bitch was desperate to be seen as equal to the whites, not with the SEAdogs.

>>48221361
She's Canadian and she doesn't speak Indonesian.
It'd be like Luca joining a hypothetical StarsID. And apparently the flips hate him so much they didn't even claim him here.

Also, hi Millie.

>>48221361
jesas we know you flips hate yourselves but damn, isnt this a little too far?

>>48218153
>>48223430
It's a fetish
These people masturbate to the thought of being inferior

>>48223430
It's called colonial mentality. And it won't improve anytime soon since they actually run like a banana republic more than anything.
Getting married to foreigners is their ticket out of their pseudo colonial slavery status. And those that are related to foreigners already are desperate to erase their flip origins.

The only people that can be a streamer will already mixed flips. But that's announcing that they are flip. And as you can tell already, flips hate being a flip.

>>48225668
>The only people that can be a streamer will already mixed flips. But that's announcing that they are flip. And as you can tell already, flips hate being a flip.
Isn’t that just because flips on the internet are annoying as fuck though? If I became a vtuber I’d pretend to be monolingual just to avoid zhangs paying attention to me too…

>>48218516
>Magbitay ka na
holy TSL

>>48226144
That's just their internet status. But you see a flip irl and what do you think? A servant, a min wage worker, etc. Rings true even if you're from other SEA countries like ID seeing a flip.

>>48218516
>Magbitay
sino bitayin namen, ikaw? gago ka malansang isda

ITT: Self-hating flips
All the problems you're pointing out? It's not unique. It's also a problem on other countries. You're just in a bubble and think all annoying little shits are flip posters.

>>48221361
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZU6n2B-Hcl8?feature=share

>>48215754
given that flips are notorious for having gossiping as a part of their culture, i can see why. i mean most of the rrats being spread in this board are mostly concocted by flips and some of them are now recognized as the "truth", like that one known anime online shop posting a meme comparing Rushia to Roman Reigns.

>>48226566
>whataboutism

>>48218516
I can see you provincial TSL (tanga sa lenggwahe)
〤 Magbitay
√ Bumigte

>>48214897
kys bbmfag ang layo ng connection putangina na pasok mo pa yan

>>48215221
>>48221361
No you don't. I've seen you guys on Esports and you've got the cringiest broken English. Just speak in your native language since it's better.

>>48227125
What you gonna do about it? It happens everywhere. You think self-hating means shit? Move on bitch.

>>48226566
kek true, some of these post reek r/ph

>>48226566
Someone accusing others of being a self-hating filipino is a way to identify them as being another self-hating flip. That's the beauty of it.

>>48227359
>tinamaan
singhot baygon pa te

>>48215207
Cope, even vt know dtto from thai, not those two

>>48213842
Millie is provincial and Tagalog isn't her first language. Give her a break. It's like Cantonese trying to speak Mandarin, so the way she speaks isn't accurate as a native.

>>48227157
Not even the dude you're speaking to, but I feel as though you are confidently incorrect as I do not currently see what the issue is with the grammar. For one, "bumigte," (assuming you used the wrong spelling of "bumigti," which is a proper word) is in a different form entirely from what the person you're responding to is attempting to express as it was written as an active verb rather than as a passive verb, in which case it would have been "bigtiin + mo + ang sarili mo," of which is less lexically dense than simply: "magbigti or magbitay + ka," in telling someone to neck themselves. I may be wrong, but a correction would be welcome.

>>48228271
Learn the difference between mag and um you illiterate provincial

>>48215674
NTA but I'd have the exact same reaction with a genuine french Vtuber.

>>48228338
Not knowing a language forced on you should be a point of pride.
You have stockholm's syndrome.

>>48228338
"Bumigti ka na" doesn't sound right to me? Ang weird pakinggan, other guy's post makes more sense but I also wouldn't know any better

>>48228510
Not our fault you're illiterate
Betting you don't even know the different imperative forms nor use the polite form at all since you're a provincial. Total degradation of a beautiful language. It's equivalent to speaking in nigger speak in the US and being proud of being stupid.

>>48223430
Why do you think they wishing mc arthur returned and colonise them back? Free ticket to US.

>>48228600
sanay ka sa kakarinig gamit ang mag kesa sa um kaya parang mali sa tenga mo

tunay na suliranin ng mga TSL

>>48228338
Do enlighten me as both can be used in the imperative with a distinction on verbs with recipients as "tumayo," "umupo," and the like are intransitive verbs whereas "bitay" is transitive and thus necessitates an object. Sourced from "Balarila ng wikang Filipino" and the final is from the website tagalog.com. Furthermore, though I am not from the provinces as I have never lived outside of Metro Manila, the fact that you decided to render a fellow Filipino's place of residence as a term of insult is a clear example of bad optics, and you falling off the moral high ground, that is if you were ever there in the first place.

>>48229143
Addendum 1

>>48228970
I see. Thing is though, most of my exposure when it comes to Tagalog is literally from you guys or shit in TV, does that mean some Tagalogs themselves no longer know how to speak Tagalog like you do? I can see why that may be, code-switching is becoming the norm nowadays. Taglish is convenient and easy

>>48229186
Addendum 2

>>48229143
Both are grammatically correct but you used it in the wrong context since you don't know the difference between mag and um. Even the -in suffix is more appropriate. Stop pretending with your screenshots since that says jackshit, it reeks of pretentious Reddit.

>>48229143
There's a reason why this person >>48226542 asked a rhetorical question you idiot. The focus is way off.

>>48229337
I'm not the one getting belligerent over what you've admitted was grammatically correct. Also, I believe I asked you to elaborate. Further, the first screenshot literally proves that the particle or banghay, "mag" was correct in the first place.

>>48229468
I believe that is a joke in the form of an insult, taking advantage of a lexical loophole of sorts as "magbitay" (which of course in a transitive verb) typically requires an object but is perfectly comprehensible with context clues and no major grammatical issue.

One stupid whore representing the P-word eaters(wouldn't want to trigger the flip janny after all)
https://youtu.be/rcJvm6JR_Ao
https://youtu.be/--X9qC46TFc

>>48229691
That's a problem of your literacy as to why they can even take advantage of that. If you were to be more specific with the focus gramatically then that wouldn't be a problem. Correct grammar but used in the wrong way/context, so that's why everybody's laughing at you for being illiterate. Provincials like you and/or their defenders are truly a shame.

>>48228606
Imagine being so proud of knowing tagalog. Can't be me. What are you even gonna use that for? Talk to manong guard?

>>48229883
Okay malansang isda, you're part reason why flips are self hating.

>>48229883
It is weird. It's like some sort of a superiority complex compared to the rest? It's not as if they know how to speak Bisaya, Ilokano or other regional languages. At least most people in the country know 3 or more, Manileño's would only know two.

>>48229691
bumigti ka is more direct than magbitay ka
if u say magbitay you will be laughed on by natives for trying to make a weak insult with vague focus

>>48229852
>Correct grammar but used in the wrong way/context
>Correct grammar
That's all I was arguing. Also, who is laughing and at whom for their illiteracy? Is it not just you and I arguing about this? Additionally, what is with your issue with the provinces?

>>48230377
You're illiterate for not knowing the difference. Unironically only a problem for a TSL who can't convey themselves properly, and seems to me you're one.

>>48229972
There isn't even a "flip" to self-hate.
See >>48217643

>pinoys unironically discussing which is the grammatically correct term of telling someone to neck himself
bigte na reddit

>>48230659
To be fair, compared to the rest of the shit that the catalog can get to and how easily SEA is scapegoated, this isn't so bad

>>48230506
You've been making no real argument for the entire time and only resorting to ad hominem directed at TSLs, the provinces, and so-called "illiterates." I believe I have said before, "Do elaborate." Also, I was born and raised in the Philippines and it has been proven that at least one person in this thread agrees that your argument appears incongruous to reality as it sound awkward to say '"umigte" (again, it is with an "I") as opposed to mag + "bigti" or "bitay."

>>48230780
>as it sound awkward
Not using mag for literally everything only sounds awkward to provincial/illiterate scum

>Another filipino thread derailed into self-loathing and political bullshit
It's just so tiring...
>>48213261
KoMETA really needs a 2nd gen. I love Elaine, she is easily my favorite local vtuber and as much as it pains me to say, she couldn't keep up with the stuff Miria and Virgil is doing. With more vtubers at least, they could allocate the time where fans would be watching a different corpo vtuber to another one of their own instead.
>>48227378
Those guys on E-sports can't speak proper Tagalog for more than 5 seconds either.
>>48221361
A Filipino will never be part of Hololive INDONESIA you fucking idiot. I don't know how many times this obvious fact must be said.

SEA arguments on /vt/ are always funny. I need to get some popcorn from the comfort of my first world country, sit back, and enjoy the thirdies duking out for which shithole has the worse vtuber fans/talents.

You fuckers should stop you're making me cringe

>>48230780
their argument was that you're a tsl for not knowing the difference, not that your grammar is wrong, you just sound like shit when you say it, kind of like an autistic dude trying to look like a cool nigga due to what u use

>>48215674
>>48218153
Self-hate seems like the natural response for any flip intelligent enough to exhibit self-awareness (rare!). I've learned a lot about the fliplands and I think it may being a flip may be the most undignified existence on Earth.

>>48230866
Do explain please. I can at least find one example of a national publication (The Philippine Star), in mentioning a Manila-born senator literally using "mag," in this context. Meanwhile, I have yet to see, "bumigti ka" in the same usage, used by someone, neither in real-life nor someone who is not in a highly informal space such as with low-stakes and admittedly retarded Filipino twitter threads that are rife with failed attempts at grammatical correctness. Thus, I fail to see its popularity in the vernacular as you suggest it has.

>>48214892
>due to their advantage to speak English fluently.
>fluently
lmao

>>48231348
that actually sounds better than magbitay since bigti is specifically referring to the act of execution and not just the act of hanging
almost every single instance of magbitay is from a TSL or cebuano
bitay can be used in many different context but bigti can only be used in one

>>48231181
> thirdies duking out for which shithole has the worse vtuber fans/talents.
Fuck off, we’re trying to figure out what’s the correct way to say neck yourself in our mother tongue.

>>48231552
I am inclined to agree with you that it sounds better than "magbitay," yes.

>>48231348
Bigti is a different word from bitay, of course you're too illiterate to see that and think every single focus is the same.
Magbitay is not even in the official tagalog dictionaries but magbigti is. Magbitay is in the cebuano dictionary.

>>48231779
Case in point

bitay=/=bigti
bigti = hang
bitay = gallows
one is noun(pangngalan) the other is a verb(pangdiwa).
ei,
gallow yourself
neck yourself

>>48231926
Nta but they were talking about the use of mag though, not the word “bitay” itself.

>>48213261
Who are you on about? The only flip I know in a corpo is Erina from Phase Connect but I doubt there is only one.

Purin was in Tsunderia too, remember?

>>48231779
I was defending the usage of the particle or the "banghay," "mag" itself. I believe I discussed earlier that one of the differences mentioned in "Balarila ng Wikang Pambansa" is the involvement of objects or recipients to actions. Regardless, I would defend that "magbitay" is a perfectly valid word for Filipino as is the national language and not only Tagalog.

>>48231779
Everyone's forgetting what this fucker>>48227157
said when magbigti seems to be the correct one to use in this case as opposed to bumigti

>>48231862
>>48232107
Bumitay and bumigti are also in the Tagalog dictionary, referring to gibbering or hanging, but literally magbitay is the only one that's not there since that word is generally found in cebuano and you're a TSL shitter trying to conflate two different things together since you're illiterate.

>>48232169
Stop coping and look at my screenshot you illiterate fool.

>>48232208
But in everyday speak, which one would you use then? Bumigti ka na or magbigti ka na?

>>48232208
Did you even read what I said? I was defending particle usage but if you are so inclined to argue this point in particular then look at the screenshot from before (>>48229143) and acknowledge that >>48232169 has a point. If you would look first and foremost, the root word definition is not the issue here, as "magbigti" literally means "to hang oneself" or "to commit suicide," as opposed to "bumigti" insinuating hanging someone else. Furthermore, I would consider your point of "magbitay" not being considered valid as a Filipino word [or a Tagalog word even though it is wrong in terms of pedant-level correctness as Filipino is more or less based on Tagalog but is not exactly so] moot with pic rel.

>Bongabong
heheh funny name

>>48232824
There's an extra a there but it is funny, yes

>>48232576
Did you even read what you posted? You used mag with the wrong verb in this context meanwhile both mag and um are applicable for bigti. Also you're using some shitty insecure website with zero credibility meanwhile I'm using official sources. Magbitay is only correct if you're using it as a provincial slang, as such you use mag with literally everything else, not as a native. Magbigti is the correct form and/or it's um format since it's the act of execution itself not just the word about hanging.

hi guys, im now interested on SEA vacation,

can you tell me best place to find "fun"

>>48233050
me when I lie

>>48233173
>zero counterargument
>accuses people of lying
I accept your concession.

>>48233068
Manila has all the amenities and whatever "fun" you want but for sightseeing and actual vacationing shit, get the fuck out of the city and into the tourist destinations in the provinces. Otherwise, you're probably better off visiting the other SEA countries

>>48233068
There is literally only one good SEA country: Singapore. It's the safest and most first world. The other countries vary wildly on safety depending on where you go.

>>48232576
if you used magbigti or bumigti or bitayin, this wouldnt be an issue but since you're a tsl nigger well we cant do anything about that

>>48233050
Official sources???? Tagalog Lang is not an official source lmao, it isn't under the KWF (Komisyon ng Wikang Filipino). Did you sleep for the entirety of your Komunikasyon sa Akademikong Filipino classes in college?

>>48233050
NTA but
>only correct if you're using it as a provincial slang
So it is correct then, You seem to have forgotten that we are on 4chan, not reddit.

>>48233068
Bali
Bogans favorite vacation

>>48233050
One, tagaloglang.com is not an "official source" and is similarly ""unreliable"" as other websites. Two, there does not exist an actual FIlipino dictionary that contains all affixes or "panlapi." Third, I used an adjacent verb to illustrate the point and it still stands as though the original poster from where this stemmed from used "magbitay," I stayed there.
Fifth, >>48233381, see my previous entries as I utilized "magbigti," and "bumigti," and likewise, the difference between the two in this one >>48229143 [see picrel] (non-sequitur, but I feel as though you're samefagging. Sixth, more websites proving the original poster (this one: >>48218516) is technically correct still.
https://www.tagalogtranslate.com/tl_en/11610/magbitay

from prev. post:
http://www.awcsoftware.nl/tagtrans/tagtrans.php?search=ibit

https://www.philippinelanguages.com/word/bitay/221174

>>48233245
as indo i want to visit philipine too just because they have better "fun" than us,

I think he just hates the province people.

>>48233619
>>48233550
>copy and paste insecure inofficial websites
So you're a liar then when you said >>48233514

>>48233619
>https://www.tagalogtranslate.com/tl_en/11610/magbitay
>from prev. post:
>http://www.awcsoftware.nl/tagtrans/tagtrans.php?search=ibit
>https://www.philippinelanguages.com/word/bitay/221174
Toppest of keks, those are the most unreliable sites I've seen, some even get their meanings wrong. Literally google translate tier.

>>48228169
Which local language is her mother tongur?

>>48233799
What? Anon, why did you include my post?

>>48233619
Additional point: calm down, buddy.

Also,>>48233799
not me, boi. see picrel. I don't samefag

And recall my point of tagaloglang's status as an "official website" and the impossibility of cataloging all "panlapi"-derived variations.

Bababa ba?
Bababa.

>>48233799
anteh, that's me, I'm not the same person you're replying to. That's how wrong you are, that 3 different people are correcting you

>>48234014
picrel: it didnt upload, sorry

>>48234104
forgor to add file

>>48233768
Yeah, it's interesting to observe.
Typically the bougies get hate on this site and similar places since it's where "losers" hang out.
However, it seems the normies in the philippines occupy facebook and maybe youtube? so the elite hang out in other spheres but they still clash here and on reddit apparently >>48227586. I don't use twitter or tiktok so I wouldn't know if it happens there too.

It's also interesting because I've seen filipinos complain about anti-intellectualism in their culture so I wonder if that props up the schism between class relations and feelings of inferiority and they lash out back and forth.
I don't even know where the country is at politically. Supposedly a major criminal was supposed to run for their PM or president or whatever? I never looked up the results since I don't actually care.

>>48233985
Imma post mine, i feel left out

>>48234320
The dictator's son won

>>48233957
Ilocano I think it was, I could be wrong.

>>48233619
Dude, I tried to look at some words in the dictionary of that site, some words I generally use don't even exist there. If that's not outdated, that's just completely wrong/inferior.
Here's an example:
https://www.tagaloglang.com/pumpon/
Now try that in your dogshit sites and there's no entry on that word.

>>48234403
careful, you're gonna piss off the 4channer blengnblong stans

>>48234320
Politically? Prepping for a WWIII scenario

>>48233957
there's a rrat that she's ilokano, which is believable since her tagalog deteriorated so much.

>>48234595
i don't think that's a rrat
she did admit that used to know ilocano but she's very rusty at it

>>48234476
What is your point exactly? Websites are not an official source and I never claimed they were. Regardless, you're moving the goalposts by rendering that test to determine the validity of another word.

>>48233619
>>48234014
>>48234921
>calls other websites unreliable when the websites he posted are more unreliable than the other anon's link
lol
maybe he was right all long about yous being illiterate

>>48234921
You were using unreliable sites to validate yourself, you're the one here that's trying to deflect and moving the goalposts. All I did was prove that the source I use is more reliable than yours.

All of you fags should fuck off to /asean/
This is /vt/, Pedro

>>48234970
Your argument is again, not logically consistent as I have never claimed any website was reliable. Recall my statement
>One, tagaloglang.com is not an "official source" and is similarly ""unreliable"" as other websites

>and is similarly ""unreliable"" as other websites

>>48235102
Furthermore, recall the start of this argument for that is where I had stayed. Remember, I argued for the usage of the particle or "banghay" and you had conceded that it was grammatically correct. Additionally, I think you don't understand what "moving the goalposts" entails as it was you that said that your website was "official" in the first place and claimed falsely that I argued on wrong premises to start in defending the usage of a different word entirely. Lastly, I again kind of feel that you're samefagging or at the very least know each other to an extent.

>>48235102
>>48234970
(different person again, not the one you're replying to) You can't get more official than the Balarila ng Wikang Filipino since it's literally backed by the KWF: the official authority on the Filipino language??? I don't know why you think a website is more official

>>48235294
>>48235363
>Additionally, I think you don't understand what "moving the goalposts" entails
The site I use even sources its words from old dictionaries that even retained the Spanish equivalents, therefore, from official sources. The ones you use are websites that are a dime a dozen in terms of quality, getting meanings of words wrong and/or missing words entirely.

Wtf jannies delete my first post
Idk that one of them is pagpag eater

>>48235468
One, you're not even responding to my statement regarding "moving goalposts" by furthering your website tangent. Second, do show these sources, please. And third, my point stands, claiming that a website that is as TSL as it gets and claiming that the absence of a specific panlapi-based derivation of a word deems it invalid never disproved my claim that the particle usage was correct.

>>48235468
anteh ang galing mo mag parkour, mula magbitay, pumunta ka sa probinsya, tas ngayon pinaparating mo na mas may kredibilidad mga webpages kaysa sa KWF?? amaccana accla

>>48234517
Who does China even have left? Russia used up almost all their resources and native goodwill.
NK can only threaten missiles.
Hell even the Chinese are getting sick of how they're being treated especially after all the quarantines.
Is the threat of WW3 really that much on the mind of the filipinos?

>>48235715
>>48235776
>One, you're not even responding to my statement regarding "moving goalposts" by furthering your website tangent. Second, do show these sources
You're the one moving goalposts by showing me irrelevant garbage such the KWF source you're scapegoating about. None of the sources you provided have got a single example relating to magbitay, if anything the only correct thing you said was about magbigti, which is specifically referring to the act itself, not just a vague word. Secondly, I did show my sources and I proved to you that your link was shit and the link I got was has what you don't.

>>48213261
There's literally 5 in NijiEN alone and a bunch more in small corpos
Millie, Luca, Hex, Mysta, and Scarle don't count now?

>>48235835
Average flips? No, not really. It's just the government being surprisingly pragmatic in the current situation. Best case scenario that everyone wants, China just continues to threaten for the next 10 decades to invade Taiwan, worst case scenario it actually does within this decade

>>48235835
it is.
if your neighbor is in suicidal mode you'll be troubled too because they might act retardedly and involve you even if you don't want to.
hence the reaction from literally all the neighbors of those three countries you mentioned.

>>48235965
Again, you're conflating different people. Next, I stayed on the original topic even wondering your usage of the website.

See
>Did you even read what I said? I was defending particle usage but if you are so inclined to argue this point in particular then look at the screenshot from before (>>48229143 (You)) and acknowledge that >>48232169 has a point.

Third, I asked for the sources you're taking about with this part of your statement
>words from old dictionaries that even retained the Spanish equivalents, therefore, from official sources

Fourth, my KWF source from earlier notes that the usage of "mag-" for imperative verbs is valid with its differences with "-um."

Fifth, I again must state that I fail to see how the absence of a word that I do not think sees much usage in the common vernacular of today renders the other words of the unreliable websites moot. Again, I only argued on this point because you moved from the original premise of this argument that his usage of particle was apparently "wrong."

>>48213261
fun fact: in this map the orange and red parts have no tourist value anyway.

>>48235965
accla, again, I'm a different person but let me just say this:
There is no hope for you, the fact that you couldn't wrap your head around how transitive verbs work even with the source shown to you, instead calling it irrelevant, speaks volumes about your own illiteracy-- which is ironic coming from someone claiming to be superior to "illiterate provincials."

>>48235715
>>48236367
>claiming that a website that is as TSL
And third, nobody here is claiming that the site is TSL, the one that's TSL here is you, and your links are shit. You can't prove what you're arguing about therefore you scapegoat to something else that's not relevant to the issue and accuse others of doing what you're doing.
And fourth, I already said before that it's grammatically correct but you used it in the wrong context. Anybody can say shit that's correct in grammar, but that doesn't mean that they're using it as it is and/or has the same implications as using another word for it when you don't even know the differences.
Fifth, failing to incorporate common words or getting meanings of the words wrong is not a valid excuse. There are literally slangs/ new words in that site that don't even exist in your links, so don't tell me the shit I have is outdated when yours is just complete trash.

>>48236432
Says the person who doesn't know the difference between bitay and bigti, nor how their focus is entirely different based on its definition in relation to using mag or um. My guy you can't even come up with a valid source to prove your point but instead try to use the excuse that "it doesn't matter if the sites I use are unreliable".

>>48231326
If seeing some shitheads in the web acting like retards makes you want to hate your race, you might as well kill yourself and reroll for something you want to be in your next life.

>>48236703
Oh god, there's just no arguing with someone if their pride is on the line. You've spent the entire thread insulting the person (who by your own admission was right) you were trying to correct, insulting provincial Filipinos as a whole, and insulting all three other people trying to correct you. So, of course, you can't be wrong now or you'll be both an idiot and an asshole. Seriously, this is just like arguing with a patient who thinks a Google search is the same as expertise.

>>48237048
The grass is always greener on the other side bro
Meanwhile if you look at the countries with highest cases of suicide rates it's countries like Japan, Korea and European countries
The west is infected with SJW trash, and China, Brazil, Russia, etc. has its own issues
No matter where you are in the world, there is no safe haven

If this thread hasn’t convinced you that flip vtubers were a mistake then I don’t know what would
Flips are insufferable fags on the internet
t. flip

>>48237276
Nah, you're just too self-hating. This is nothing

>>48213261
Any cooking streams? What side dishes go along nicely with the pagpag?

>>48237222
Isekai it is then, i hope i can reroll in the world of pokemon when i die

>>48237327
>try not to mention politics as a flip vtuber challenge (impossible)
We’re like the fucking french. But brown.

>>48236571
I'm claiming that your provided website evokes an impression of being used by and meant for TSLs. Next, recall that my premise was never about the links. Remember that I argued that it was sufficiently comprehensible at the context and the usage was acceptable, more so as there exists a mere slight difference for transitive verbs regarding the usage of mag- and -um. All you have is ad hominem, the failure to understand the point that you're the one who strayed from the original premise, and the fallacious claims of wrongness by association.

Let me use a metaphor because it seems you don't understand.

>Say there's an old research paper that details its results. Does that make it wrong because it is old? No, of course not.

>Now take for instance that there exists a newer paper with a new method. Does that make the results of the previous paper fallacious? No, as the results were accurate at its recording.

Thus, old words still used by Filipinos are still correct regardless of apparent outdatedness. And that slang and new words are not considered pedantically, grammatically correct without the acknowledgement of a central authority such as the KWF. Slang never being considered grammatically correct in the first place, notwithstanding. Tell me you understand and stop responding to one or two points that are supplementary at best, please?

>>48237403
And so? At least it isn't doxshit or whatever. Also, the politics is minor compared to this grammar autism contest these guys are having

>>48237276
how terribly nice of you to make yourself an example to your claim

>>48237482
I wasn’t part of the politics or grammar conversation, if that’s what you’re referring to
Have some self awareness holy shit

>>48237185
>>48237408
Stop samefagging. You've only proved you have zero credibility, with or without pride is irrelevant here. You literally used the argument that using unreliable sites don't matter yet source your shit from those same websites. There's no way out of that one. Even your KWF scapegoating doesn't disprove your incorrect contextual usage. Even other anons agree as well >>48231552 >>48231699
I can agree with your magbigti but I can never agree with the first one.

>>48237551
>implying that I was referring to that

>>48237551
I don't think you realize how badly catalog threads deteriorate, this is nothing in comparison to those. Yes, it's gone off-topic but this is really nothing. You're just making this self-hate shit your personality

>>48237806
Of course some lacking in self-awareness would blame anyone else but themselves
Where have I mentioned being a self hating flip?
I don’t think flips on the weeb internet comprise 100% of the flip population

huh it is true that majority of /vt is SEAniggers, and a fucking flip at that jesus christ

>>48237686
Never samefagged. I only used websites in saying "I can pull up websites that agree with me too."
>KWF scapegoating
You say that, but I used it in response to you saying I don't know the difference between particles.

Recall, for the love of god, that I agreed that his word choice may have been subpar but is still technically correct. I have been nothing but civil to you, alright? You're the one sperging out.

>>48237961
Oh, I see, so this is not self-hating? You just hate flips?>>48237276>>48237403
My bad bro.

>>48238057
>what is inspect element

>>48238030
Majority are Indons and Malays actually considering how popular HoloID is and they even have their own generals. Flips centric threads are incredibly rare.

>>48238094
The flips in vtuber circles, yeah

>>48238179
Yeah, definitely.

>>48213261
Nice bait, looks like you struck gold kek

>>48238504
Okay, that's based.

>>48238030
>SEA
probably
>flip
nah, there's only really few of us here compare that to the infestation of flips in facebook or even youtube.

>>48238614
Facebook definitely, other social media sites varies

>>48238057
>but is still technically correct.
I literally said that the grammar is correct but the context is wrong and/or not commonly used in that way, and the other anon even agreed that it's used more commonly in other languages. You have most likely ignored that. That's why you were called a TSL if you use that since I know for a fact as well and have seen the same TSL people use it that way in my personal experiences, so is with others agreeing. You're the one here sperging out as to how I was wrong and arguing about the grammar despite with your KWF scapegoating despite the fact that I kept telling you that the grammar isn't the wrong one but its contextual use.

>>48238030
It probably depends on the time of day. If we were to talk about total, I would guess Anglo countries would make a combined majority, with SEA being the second largest group, and the rest is a mix of Euros and Latam.

>>48238758
>grammar despite with
grammar with*

>>48238758
I would argue that the context and application are perfectly acceptable, more so as you're in 4chan and that at least two here agree that is sounds perfectly natural to them? pic rel is people using it in conversation

>>48239046
also this

and typo
>It sounds perfectly natural to them

>>48239046
>>48239148
I've seen Magpakabitay, Magpakamatay, Magbigti, Bumigti, Magpabigti, but Magbitay have different implications entirely as the actor focus is vague unlike the others that could've been used. You likely don't know that there are different forms of um and insisted that I was wrong without checking the facts.

>>48239506

>>48239506
Yes, I believe that there are different applications for such particles but you will find that there is overlap between their functions/applications such as with describing verbs. I believe that this function was also illustrated in the former screenshots of the book on Filipino grammar that states the applications of mag- for transitive verbs (verbs with specific objects) in particular. Hence, why it was also valid that he was asked "sino bibitayin," but I also argue that it is technically correct in this context, seeing its usage in interactions and the interpretation of the object being obscured such as with the phrase "magpulot ka na," being correct in conversational usage as context clues would suffice regardless of the explicit statement of the object in question. Again, I completely agree that "magbigti," is the most applicable to the situation.

>>48240259
pic rel, similar applications

>>48240259
>>48240325
That doesn't change the fact that the wrong context was used as the actor focus was vague, the relevant party in this case is the listener. If you are not a TSL, you would immediately realize the differences between them and not mix them together when you're not supposed to. Just because provincial people use them and don't give a shit about the different implications does not mean you have the right to tell others they're wrong for noticing very important contextual differences.

>>48240674
Regardless, recall that "bumigte" (from >>48227157) was still not correct as a mag- particle was more applicable in the end. (Using the website you preferred to illustrate this point)

>>48240943
No, that's wrong. Um3 was used in that case and that specifically refers to becoming or getting. Again, stop trying to be pretentious when you've already been proven wrong. Mag is actor focus vague while um3 is not.

>>48241084
Recall it's conversational usage, it is valid in the conversational level. To illustrate this point, I don't think you would consider the usage of the more conversational "ja nai" (in place of "de wa nai") in Japanese to be grammatically incorrect. Next, I recall that we had agreed that "magbigti" was the most correct option to select from, in which case, it uses a mag- particle? um-3 is used for a change in state for the doer and is used with adjectives. Look, the examples all have adjectives as their root word as opposed to a verb. Also, calm down. Ad hominem just makes you look like you have less of a point than you do.

>>48241529
I misspoke as it is only tangential to adjectives.

>>48239506
>>48239584
>>48240259
>>48240325
>>48240943
Read a book nerds. While he was correct in using the suffix, the main issue is he used the wrong word. There's a reason localization is a thing.

>>48241529
>Recall it's conversational usage
I already told you over and over that just because provincial or illiterate people use them does not make them contextually correct. Bigti can also be an adjective, so please stop being a pretentious idiot and take the L. You were the one talking shit about pride, yet you're the one who doesn't want their pride to be ruined by some random anon on the internet.

>>48241753
It is used as an adjective in relation to it being done on a subject prior. Also, recall that your samefagging point was rendered moot? I never said anything about pride to you.

>>48241750
I agree that his word choice was questionable, I simply argued that it was still valid.

>>48242142
>being done on a subject
>Tumaba is when it's done to someone prior
You're just that fucking retarded aren't you. Purposefully spouting misinformation and nonsense since you've got nothing now.

>>48242351
I said that in relation to bigti? If someone is dead, then the adjective refers to the fact that they have been put to death thus. "pumatay," doesn't mean that they killed themselves, it means they killed someone else and the same is true for "bigti." In this case, "bumigti" entails the act of hanging someone else. I think our issue here is that you're misinterpreting me and that you've been angry from the beginning, thus clouding your judgement. After all, you're the one who won't even acknowledge when he's wrong such as with your samefagging accusations?

>>48242523
>Confusing um1 with um3
Fuck man never had a conversation with a person this dumb before.

>>48241084
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you used um-3 here correct?
>>48242626

>>48242686
In this case, I mentioned the word "bumigte" and you said:
>No, that's wrong. Um3 was used in that case and that specifically refers to becoming or getting

>>48242626
Nta but god, what a toxic person you are, holy shit. You’ll fit in right here.

>>48242847
>Nta
kek, nice try samefag

nakakahiya ka bhai

>>48242948
Again, no. Or do I need to show you again with video?

>>48243003
ogey

>>48242948
Nope, still wrong.

>hes so desperate he do be using diff browsers to prove he not a samefagger
oof

>>48243055
>leaking members content
Dammit teamate.

>>48243272
teamates are the worst and most autistic fanbase around here in seanigger lands

just go to one of the discord and you'll see how insufferable it us

>>48243021
Here you go, buddy.

>>48243132
How am I to prove this wrong? Is it so difficult to believe that you're toxic? You're the one needing to rely on false accusations in the first place?

>>48243003
>>48243055
>>48243552
nice resolution changes same bro, very believable indeed

>>48243552
Man, you people will argue about anything. You're on /vt/, get the fuck back on topic. Fucking SEA...

>>48243887
im honestly fucking embarrassed that dude went on for so long only to be proven by another autism dude that he's wrong and now he's attacking me desperately trying to prove he's not samefagging by changing his screen res every time kek

>>48243990
>attacking me
>keep calling the other dude a tsl
What

>>48243753
No amount of proof short of showing you in person, my pc and device screens and your resorting to imagination and unproveable false accusations simply ratify your bad faith in conjunction to tard raging the whole time and being incapable of admitting fault. I wonder what's easier to believe here? Someone with a hostile tone being accused of toxicity or someone desperate enough to change browsers?

>>48244062
idgaf about your fag arguments but it's funny to me your mentally ill

>>48244082
kek
tldr

>>48244158
>your

>>48243990
>>48244158
I'm not the one mad over nothing and pretending to laugh after sperging out? Calm down, dude. Again, I have never even called you a single name.

>>48244276
Also, again, not me.

>>48244276
>>48244354
try your hardest bro maybe you'll convince your mom you're not a loser anymore

>>48244397
One of us gave in to his weakness and let another man control his emotions over something so utterly insignificant.

>>48244397
Chad reply

>>48244555
>One of us gave in to his weakness and let another man control his emotions over something so utterly insignificant.

>>48234320
t.flipthatwantstobeindonesian

>>48244847
What, why would you want to be an indonesian.

>>48244555
Stop posting cringe. You're embarrassing us even further.

>>48244805
Whatever helps you feel better, man. You've been mad for a while, after all.

>>48242686
>>48242764
>>48242847
>>48244082
Does it hurt losing the debate and being outed as a samefag on top of that?
This thread has only lowered my opinion of Teamates, and it must be why your oshi despises you.

we love the philippines here

>>48250597
Mabuhay ang Republika ng Pilipinas!

>>48215118
>>48215207
my god this man's living under the hit 1996 movie "The Rock" starring nic cage and sean connery

jesas christ

>>48238030
>IP 63
it's just the vocal 63 flips
indogs still dominate the SEA population here
and for some reason the Spics also has a large population here

Fuck off, indogs. The philippines has multiple popular vtubers, such as Kamiyajuu and kiichan. We don't need the corpo crutch.

-femanons- add me 陰影#6689
and chat about vidya and weeb stuff creative hobbies /m/ shows lolis kemono girls pokemon fate digimon smt yuuka meiling patchouli shion yuugii from touhou megaman monster hunter FU vtubers.( and mock deadbeats)fire emblem fantasy the 4 heroes of light SFM animations females from the DoA games final the rwby anime and other stuff

>>48259937
they can proxy as Flips, In the totem poll of the third World being argentinian or brazillian can be worse than being a flip in context.

>>48218153
Filipinos schizophrenic self-love and self- hate is funny as fuck, don't try and get them to stop.

>>48219162
Millie would not really get much flips because she has a huge lack of knowledge about the country knowing she lives in canada since high school. The Philippines that Millie knows is the Philippines wayback 2000's to 2010's. He is now behind the current trends about the country right now.

>>48213261
EIEN has 4 memeber and 2 are from that shithole

>>48227157
Pwede naman magpa-tiwakal kayo.

>>48228970
Paalala ko lang na ang Tagalog ay may iba't ibang dialect. Kaya dependa sa kung saan lugar ka, kung paano niyo isinasalita yung isang salita ay maaaring iba ang paggamit nito sa ibang lugar sa bansa.

>>48229883
Every Tagalog speaker can scam you if you don't know how to actually understand their language, some of their words sounds literall hut has different meanings afterall.

Tangina inabutan na ng tanghali buhay pa rin ito. Manood na lang kayo ng Voltes V. Wala naman kinalaman sa vtubers pinag-uusapan nyo.

>>48215264
dumb american

>>48233068
Just the Philippines, It is a gateway of Asian and Western culture at the same time. You will see Colonial structures in a walled city of Intramuros Manila and Vigan city in the north of Luzon around Ilocos region. If you want some asian culture, you can visit the most beautiful beach in asia which is the white sand beach of Boracay and the most beautiful hills of Chocolate Hills im Bohol. Want some extreme adventure? Do a hiking inside the crater of Mt. Mayon Volcano which is the volcano that has the most perfect cone on the world, or swim in the lake inside the crater of Taal volcano which is a lake inside an island volcano which is inside a Taal lake which is inside the Luzon island. Enjoy and It's more fun in the Philippines.

And also, we also have an entire mountain converted in a stairs of ricefields built thousands of years ago in Banaue rice terreces by the 2nd original inhabitants of the island which are the Austronesian Igorots.

>>48273274
Pede naman kc daw gamiten kahit alin kaso mala-TSL lang daw ang dating dahil sa kakaibang paggamit. Kung baga di akma yung nagamit na maylapi. Kung TSL ka tama din naman e

>>48233757
You're saying facts dude, Philippines is actually way more fun than indo desu.

>>48234320
Dude, Philippine election was over, there was no major criminal who runs on the presidency and those are just accusations by the opposition just like the politics of Biden vs Trump in U.S.

>>48234403
It's funny and ironic you call him a dictator when you guys wants to dictate someone's political view. Why don't you guys just at the mirror before you say the word dictator robredofag.

Why are there so many self-hating flips?

>>48274299
*rapes and beheads you*

>>48234517
Nah, preparing for WWIII is the just what outsiders thinks about the politics in the Philippines. Politics is actually chill to external tensions. Most major news is just about heat waves, growing economy or gdp growth rate which is the highest in the asia-pacific region wih a rate of 6% higher than even China who only has 4% gdp growth rate and some news abotu business stuffs. Only western people are obsessed with the worldwar topics.

>>48238504
If you edited that you deserve to be right anyway.

I don't think there will be an increase in Filipino vtubers, as the culture in the Philippines is sharply turning now towards a pro-China, anti-American/Japanese stance.

>>48236187
You know nothing about the current situation in the xountry then. You sounds like someone who is living outside the country and believing that world war III is coming just because of a US-PH exerside which us not even new at all since It was a yesrly exercise conducted every summer of April since wayback 1950's even before west taiwan becomes a naval power in the region.

The Philippine government is actually doing a pretty good approach in the current tensions unlike what Ukraine government did.

>>48213261
If I go by my one vtweeter acquaintance who links to her roommate's account on her profile, and posts about her bf on both accounts, the ones who do get into vtubing here tend to also be massive menheras.

>>48244847
Eww and gross.
I prefer to be Timorese from East Timor than those indo.

>>48253065
Sang->>48262667
ayon ako sa sinabi mo kababayan.

>>48238264
>>48259937
nice deflection.
ummm acktuarry contrary to the majority believes there are actually not that many indogs here. sure there are many HoloID generals but if you watch streams you'd know what language they use or speak.

>proof ?
try searching "warkop" in the catalog that's probably the most indog infested discussion place you can find in /vt/. if it doesn't show up then it's dead, because there's no one to bump the thread.

>>48262667
Facts, indo thinks they're better just because they have a representation in hololive when in fact, their indie vtuber scenes are not even compareble to indie vtubers in the Philippines.
Also, Philippines when it comes to entertainment foreign policy are still close to 100% foreign ownership unlike indo. Imagien if we opem our markets to 100% Japanese ownership for entertainment industry where hololive belongs and hololive decides to make a branch here. I bet people especially in the west which is a huge market of hololive alongside JP branch will forget ID exist.

If you want a good reason to self-hate, it's that Philippines doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent country and will support the One China policy (kinda ironic that they don't recognize the nine dash line as legitimate though), and has implied they will side with the chinks when Xi decides to invade Taiwan.
>you will be conscripte to defend china and you can't do anything about it.

>>48274585
Most major news is corruption and incompetence on the national level and local level
>>48274858
And the Balikatan this year is bigger than ever? Also, the confirmation of new bases? Yes, it's chill to every country but it's being passive aggressive to China.
Comparing PH to Ukraine is wrong, we're not the country being invaded, Taiwan is and there are supposedly 150,000 OFWs there

>>48274156
Minsan akala kasi ng mga Taga-Maynila, Yung Tagalog lang nila ang nag-iisang Tagalog sa bansa. Ewan ko lang kapag bumisita sila sa batangas at marinig yung Tagalog-Batangas dialect, baka lalong dumugo mga ilong nila.

>>48274816
You still living under the Duterte precidency? Lmao. Philippines just conducted a 3 weeks largest Military exercise so far between US and the Philippines and most Filipinos actually approved that. How is that an Anti-american?

>>48274816
Also Voltes V Legacy which is the Filipino Live-action adaptation of the Japanese anime is currently trending in the country and even has cinematic experience where they release some scenes from the upcoming series and turned it into a movie. How is that an anti-japanese stance?

>>48275444
It's not ironic. You know why? Because Taiwan government which is the original government of china is the one who actually made the 11 dash line which china used and made it their 9 dash line and Taiwan government also claims the EEZ of the Philippines. Get some knowledge about the geopolitics in the region before you say something.

>>48275444
>invade taiwan
>side with ccp
>get conscripted
kek what an absolute retard you're blabbering incoherent nonsense.

>>48275516
Kuro ko di lang yan mga taga-maynila kc kahit san mang dako ka nakatira, sa isipan nakasalalay kung ano ba'ng wasto na pananalita. Kaya nga tayo nagsisi-away dahil yan sa kapalpakan ng ating paglinang. Pamahalaan lang may pakana at may kaya na ayusin 'to. Wala kang mababago kung barabara kaisipan ng ating mga kapwa tao.

>>48275246
well this just proves eating trash affects one's mind
warkop is way too chill even though they have all sort of chuuba

Ibagsak ang mga Diktador ng Balarila! Tumungo tayo sa EDSA at maghimagsilan!

>>48275453
>passive aggressive to China.
Are you a clown or what? Even last year, China also barks like a puppy especially when Nanci Pelosi visits Taiwan lol.

The one who is aggressive in the region are the the CCP and even under the former Philippine president Duterte which is pro-china, they are still more aggressive than ever, sunking a fisherman's boat, harrasing innocent fisherman's, blocking the reefs by their maritime militia and even deploying their gray ship navy in the disputed area which is a violation of the "no gray ship zone" policy.

What the Philippines did right now is just the right thing, What China is experiencing right now from the what US is doing in the region are what the Philippines endured for the last 10+ years of the agression of China in the Philippine territories since 2012. They are just tasting their own medicine from what the US is doing right now.

China is also the one who violates the international laws and called their dillusional laws as the international law.

>>48276346
Did you misunderstand my post? Do you know what being passive aggressive means? Because I'm agreeing with the rest of your post

>>48275346
Cope, ignorant flips didnt even know manila is owned by indo conglomerate

>>48276682
>owned by indo
no faggot
>owned by chinese
yeah probably

>>48276682
>indorobo conglomerate
lol

go back to plebbit r/phfags. Stop bringing pol here.

The most entertaining thread I have ever read
God bless you Filipinos

>>48233068
Go to Quezon City, ask the taxi driver to bring you to Pegasus or Sylvanus, don't let him turn off the meter. Thank me later.

>>48275346
To add on to that, flips are generally very patriotic so even the filipinx from USA would watch and support PHtubers, even if they dont understand the language. The same cannot be said to indogs who are poorfags as reflected from HoloID'S SC.

>>48276973
Why do Flips hate but love China at the same time? Choose a side ffs

>>48276682
>talking about First Pacific
Shhhh don't let them know anything

>>48278991
First Pacific is a HK company, indog. Now stop being retarded.

>>48279076
>implying I'm from Indonesia
>implying that you can't base your company in a tax haven
>implying Suono Salim is Chinese
okay

Sure smells like coping pinoys in here.

>>48213261
NijiEN
>Luca
>Hex
>Millie

>>48213261
Uhhhh half of EIEN are flips so (You) are wrong.

>>48279488
The only monkeys coping here are indogs (This thread isn't even about them).

>>48278786
>Reading comprehension problems
Here, I'll repeat what anon said: "China owns flips, literally"

>>48278786
>love china
how did you get that information from my post, all i said was the truth. Half of the most wealthy people in Philippines have Chinese descents

>>48275651
The philippines has a fucking army!? Where?

Ah found it. Armored military trucks covered by wooden plank armor. Nice.

>>48280084
not him but you'd be surprised how effective those wooden planks are against RPGs (which most of the Maute Group were using during the Marawi Siege) https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a26804/wooden-armor-tank-rockets/

>>48280084
Tanks with free wifi.

>>48280084
Hell yea, it won't work against more modern and superior weapons systems but it got the job done

>>48280084
Hey, wooden tanks are easily mass-produced and are actually effective and cheap. They also look cool.

>>48280084
Check GFP and you will see there that the Philippines is at rank 34 right now which is higher than North Korea mr. Ignorant

>>48280424
Doenst mean much when their estimates on NK's military is outdated flip chama.

>>48276682
Why indogs are so delusional? I remember wayback 1300's some indogs from Majapahit Empire back then which suppose to be the largest and strongest empire in maritime sea tried to invade Manila but they we're defeated by the kingdom of Tondo lol back then.

>>48280424
>North korea
Nice standards.

>>48278786
They like to play the games in their hands and China is just their pawn. They learned a lot from their history.

>>48280512
They can't get over their glory days since they dont have a lot of them lol.

>>48279488
More like delusional indogs.

>>48280424
Guess flip has nukes now? They are higher than North korea.

Also googled NK's 3k WWII battle tanks. Pray your wooden planks can save your 50 light tanks.

>>48280084
Better than indognesia's army. They can't even rescue a pilot from literal jungle dwellers.

>>48280688
At least indo has a pilot. Do flips even have one jets?

>>48280687
NK only have nukes, the rest are just soveit-era weapons.

>>48280687
Nukes are useless unless you wanna end the world and/or get sanctioned to hell.

>>48280730
Atleast Filipinos has a lot of Battle experience and their snipers can probably take down your pilots from the jungle.

>>48280730
The piot he was referring to is from NZ (he is white). Indonesia refused when NZ offered their army to help rescue him and claim that their own army will suffice....It's been a month and the pilot has not been rescued yet.

>>48280687
Look at Ukraine-Russia conflict as an example, Russia has the most nukes in the world, are they winning their so-called special military mission in Ukraine?

>>48280590
That's not actually true, Philippines won 5 wars in all their history while they only lose 3.
Others are stalemate or ongoing.

>>48280940
Also, dont forget that PH has won wars and conflicts with Spain, the US and China.

>>48213261
You forgot to include Sabah

Hindi kayo tunay na Tagalog kung hindi kayo marunong magbasa at magsulat ng ᜊᜌ᜔ᜊᜌᜒᜈ᜔

Kayo ay Filipino kung ganun.

Filipino = Nasyonal na Pagkakakilanlan/National Identity

Tagalog = Lokal na pagkakakilanlan/Local Identity

least autistic thread on vt

>>48213261
What...is that?

>>48281567
China province

Of course the nuke-less won't understand the point of nukes.

Nukes are an assured mutual destruction button. No one, even a full allied coalition will dare to invade russia even after exposing it's military's weakness because it has nukes. All those oil, and you can't steal 'em, poor westoids.

Imagine the flips being invaded by literal monkeys with 3000 soviet era tanks vs the flips' dozen wooden jeeps. It can't even nuke the world for an assured mutual destruction before being destroyed alone.
Lucky for flips, they don't have much value to be invaded. They're just the chinese navy's toilet, literally shitting in their borders for free. Their neighbors are far more juicier targets.

>>48281635
>nuke-less won't understand the point of nukes.
So does Japan?

>>48281635
>Their neighbors are far more juicier targets.
Holy fucking kek, imagine being this ignorant about the philippines. Ever heard of the Island Chain Strategy?

>>48281764
He knows nothing about the geopolitics in the region. I bet his source is from tiktok.

>>48281635
Philippine neigboring countries except to vietnam and Singapore are less relevant in the tension in the region.

Why indogs are still so much delusional? They are lucky Australia is not as aggressive as China or else you will have a lot of pain desu.

>>48281635
What a close minded kid you are.

>>48281971
Not every conflict in the region is about the South China Sea, flip kun.

>>48282110
Tf you saying? I'm talking about the sea region. Are you high or what?

>>48282259
South China Sea IS in sea.

>>48282363
>Their neighbors are far more juicier targets.
I'm referring to this statement which shows how ignorant kid you are.

>>48282363
South CHINA Sea is CHINA. They have bases there and everything. Does flip even have ships? Fishing boats don't count.

>>48282508
You saying flips have something better than something like Taiwan's semiconductor industry? What do you even have to offer, banana industry for monkeys?

>>48282508
Your shitty country won't matter once China inevitably conquer the spratleys.

>>48282619
You're talking about the country that will almost certainly cease to exist and/or go into war in 10 years?

>>48282715
Exactly, it's a juicer target than your trash hole. Monkeh brain catchin' on!

>>48282743
Still though, Philippines is one of the most important countries in the region.

>>48283042
China has to have a toilet in south china sea after all. Very important.

Damn never knew Philippians had such autistic arguments, it's like stepping into an /int/ general

>>48283586
Filipinos are /int/ personified

>>48283586
not even half as autistic as the arguments that happen daily in FB.
bonus points, since there they don't even use anonymity.

>>48283586
Unlike western countries, they vaccinated all their kids and are now all autists. The west got lucky that they believed vaccination causes autism. Now only some of them are autists.

>>48281635
Russia has been allocating less than a tenth of the necessary budget for nuclear maintenance compared to its stated nuclear arsenal, prior to the war. Factor in corruption and misallocation of assets and I would not be surprised if Russia has no working nuclear weapons, especially since their recent attempt at posturing through nuclear weapon tests were undercut by the failure of the Satan II.