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>> No.48175370
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.48175379

>>48175110
Lucky star was bigger internationally than K-on to the point that some prisoners were being tortured and forced to dance that song in some country in sea along with some haruhi songs

>> No.48175382

Pippa should deactivate her bannedvtmeme account and atone for her sins.

>> No.48175403

GRIM

>> No.48175414
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>67,379: Pekora (Hololive)
>50,393: Yorumi (Nijisanji)
>40,166: Subaru (Hololive)
>37,795: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>36,399: Flare (Hololive)
>31,931: Aqua (Hololive)
>19,132: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,831: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,232: Voltaction (Nijisanji)
>12,566: Watame (Hololive)
>12,301: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,947: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,138: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>10,940: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,938: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,243: Ina (Hololive)

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How's the all out war going?

>> No.48175439

Who won today?

>> No.48175474
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>>48175414
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft
9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw
11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha
13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live
14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,037 - Apex VSaikyo 5 tournament
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 244,788 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament
17) Miko (Hololive) - 55,500 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Nene & Mel
18) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 122,091 - Host outfit 3D reveal
19) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 40,447 - Rust
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,780 - Granblue Fantasy collab
21) Marine (Hololive) - 96,062 - Pro seiyuu auditions w/Miko, Polka & Koyori
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 104,665 - 3D birthday variety show
23) Miko (Hololive) - 51,761 - Soulcalibur 6
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab
26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
3x: Neo Porte
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
7x: Pekora
4x: Miko
3x: Hal
1x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Kanata, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
87x: Hololive
20x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
34x: Pekora
10x: Marine
8x: Miko
5x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.48175483

At the end of the day, after all this time, what we learned is that Cover was actually right.
We made fun of them, but in the end they knew what they were doing.

>> No.48175497

>>48175436
Wouldn't Niji be China, Cover Japan, and Vshojo a foreign opium peddler?

>> No.48175499

>>48175474
>24) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy
>25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab
>26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab

>> No.48175512

>>48175379
Not to dox myself but if I'd won re-election in 2020 prisoners and illegals in the US would be singing and dancing to shiny-smiley story and more recently PARADE PARADE PARADE. It would have changed everything.

>> No.48175514

>>48175483
>what is tempus2

>> No.48175544
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>4/26 DAILY TALLY
12,301: IRyS (Hololive)
10,243: Ina (Hololive)
5,126: Mori (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered
4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream
5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft
6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke
7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)
8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament
9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal
10) Kiara (Hololive) - 15,972 - Easter Collab
11) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,199 - Minecraft
12) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,504 - Minecraft
13) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,986 - CouncilRyS RPG
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 11,753 - 2.0 Reveal
15) Gura (Hololive) - 19,449 - Choo Choo Charles
16) Baelz (Hololive) - 27,878 - Outfit Reveal
17) Gura (Hololive) - 17,691 - Choo Choo Charles
18) Gura (Hololive) - 16,667 - Baldi's Basics
19) Kiara (Hololive) - 7,271 - Minecraft
20) Ina (Hololive) - 18,401 - Karaoke/Announcement
21) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 12,392 - Touchstarved (w/ Vox, Ike, Sonny, Doppio)
22) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 88,255 - Outfit Reveal
23) Ina (Hololive) - 28,128 - Outfit Reveal
24) Mori (Hololive) - 8,583 - Minecraft (w/ Kobo)
25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,650 - Birthday Stream
26) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,301 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Kronii
3x: Baelz, Gura, Mori
2x: Mumei, Kiara, Ina
1x: Sonny, Selen, Fauna, Fulgur, Mysta, Vox, IRyS

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Kronii
23p: Fauna, Ina
22p: Mori
21p: Baelz
20p: Mumei
17p: Kiara
15p: Gura
12p: Luca
11p: Vox
9p: IRyS
8p: Sonny, Selen, Mysta
5p: Fulgur
3p: Kotoka
1p: Axel, Amelia, Elira, Ike

>> No.48175550

>>48175483
>debut 8 Holostars instead of EN3
nah

>> No.48175581

>>48170322
What do you mean by they. Mumei, gura, fauna, irys would never have cared if they were accessories. Only awkward thing at best would be a few of them would end up like marine and shion by playing too much into it and accidentally sleeping together.

>> No.48175591

>>48175514
>>48175550
>not knowing that tempus was a kamikaze move to kill both the stars brand and male en vtubing

>> No.48175611
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>>48175544
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
82x: Hololive
32x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
12x: Mori
9x: Baelz, Gura, IRyS
8x: Mumei, Ina
7x: Amelia, Fauna, Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara
4x: Mysta
3x: Pomu, Shu, Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
99p: Fauna
82p: Ina
79p: Mori
78p: Mumei
76p: Baelz
74p: IRyS
64p: Vox
54p: Amelia
48p: Mysta, Kiara
47p: Kronii
45p: Gura
38p: Luca
26p: Selen
17p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>> No.48175620

>>48175379
Lucky Star was a bigger deal than K-on flat out.

>> No.48175629

>>48175483
Cover makes plenty of blunders and strategic misjudgments, they just make far fewer and far less severe than the competition.

>> No.48175640

>>48175581
>Mumei, gura, fauna, irys would never have cared if they were accessories
problem is that their partners were the ones who cared about being accessories anon

>> No.48175641

>>48175591
Based faago, he was right all along...

>> No.48175642

>>48175544
Where's Luxiem 80k follow up stream? 10k? 5k?

>> No.48175700

>entirety of last thread was off-topic anime discussion
I'm so glad you people have a containment thread.

>> No.48175745
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>>48175700
I'm sorry we had an actual good discussion for once in your homo thread, won't happen again

>> No.48175770

>>48175581
Everyone eventually cares, because it's annoying to do your own content and constantly be pestered about another streamer. it just depends on how long it takes to get to someone. Every pairing has eventually run into this issue.

>> No.48175790 [DELETED] 

Continuing my Oshi no Ko rant the author unironically turned an anti-idol/entertainment industry narrative into a pro-unicorn one since the actual killer of Ai is her ex psychotic serial killer ex-boyfriend who dates female celebrities and kills them for fun.

>> No.48175829

>>48175581
Fundamentally nobody wants to build their career around a duo if they can help it, because duos break up. You have to have a strong foundation in your solo content, and breaking up a pairing if you feel like it's starting to become the only thing people watch you for kinda makes sense

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>>48175436
As well as the college kids in "Tucker and Dale vs Evil"

>> No.48175841 [DELETED] 

>>48175629
nah, it's just that they probably has the most overpowered fall back plan in the industry whenever they're relapsing to do their periodic strategic missteps:
>The Hololive girls themselves

>> No.48175857

>>48175790
How is that pro-unicorn?

>> No.48175859

>>48175790
how do you be ex psychotic?

>> No.48175905

>>48175839
Does anyone have the hololive edit?

>> No.48175920
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>>48175544

>> No.48175923

>>48175857
because the original plan was for the guy to be a regular obsessed fan but he changed the narrative for some reason

>> No.48175925

>>48175859
You take your meds

>> No.48175929

Uwwaaaaaaa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDM2RnwlzI

>> No.48175941

>>48175514
ceo pet project?

>> No.48175945
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>>48175905
Was going to post it but i missclicked

>> No.48175947
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48175947

So, thread is back to slow and civilized (I think), here is a never before posted chart.
This will be different because it is
>ALL MEAT, NO BONE
design specifically to smooth out any seasonal variation by making it a
>365 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS
chart.
This should only leave variations for the real trend changes because, as the interval is as wide as a full year, seasonal variations, debuts, events and even CCVID should be averaged out by this wide range and big number of streams.

Here is the first
>Hololive (the japanese branch)

There is not a lot to talk about it
1) For most of the depicted period, it bounced above 9.3k and below 9.7k
2) After mid July 2022, it SKYROCKETED, pretty much a straight line up allo the way into the current 11k average.
11k average on a full year of streams is ***massive*** and the median is not trailing much lower.

As an aside: this chart for Hololive is very flat for most of it's period, but don't let this fool you: this truly looks more like it is something unique to Hololive
This stability across the time than something that would be seen normally in this type of charts.

>> No.48175954

>>48175829
>you live and die by your solo content
Retarded mentality, just be like Kanata
>unironic leech
>milk the shit out of your pairing
>ship partner quits like a retard
>double down as a unicorn magnet
She's bigger now than ever before

>> No.48175967

>>48175923
That's not pro unicorn that's just bad writing

>> No.48175978

>>48175790
>Continuing my Oshi no Ko rant the author unironically turned an anti-idol/entertainment industry narrative into a pro-unicorn one
Mostly because people started digging and then airing out his dirty laundry like the scorned fan or wife one

>> No.48175983

>>48175923
I could say it went from anti-unicorn to neutral, but that's not really pro-unicorn.

>> No.48176005

>>48175954
So she got bigger by focusing on her solo content? Thus living and dying by it?

>> No.48176006

>>48175790
What a cop-out

>> No.48176016

>>48175591
It was so succesful it killed entire EN scene including HoloEN

>> No.48176019

>>48175859
Typo
>>48175857
Because now you can argue Ai shouldn't have dated a fucking murderer instead of placing the blame on toxic idol culture causing a fan to murder her. It's a fucking evil boyfriend story now instead of Idol culture bad.

>> No.48176024

>Gonna miss entire Saturday and police thingy during it
No...
Worth it for freeing up Sora's birthday

>> No.48176044

>>48175581
>marine and shion by playing too much into it and accidentally sleeping together
you can't drop something that juicy and not elaborate

>> No.48176051

>>48175954
So...by focusing on her own content?

>> No.48176061

>>48175790
Wait did he really? Might be because people started digging around his past and found out his circumstances and people probably started making fun of him

>> No.48176064

>>48175923
Are you saying the guy that actually killed her, is the father and not a fan that found out she is a whore?

>> No.48176073

>>48176044
How new are you?

>> No.48176099

>>48176044
Just google up the clip anon, it's all over youtube. even animated I think.

>> No.48176133

Fauna is a lazy fucking whore who hates her fans and would rather play dredge for the fifth time over something they'd actually be interested in.

>> No.48176140

>>48175954
>Retarded mentality, just be like Kanata
The bulk of Kanata massive incline in the past two months came from playing Dark Souls, Sekiro and now Shadow of Colossus.

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>>48173868

>> No.48176146

>>48176064
He went a little far in false flagging to paint unicorns in a bad light.

>> No.48176153

>>48176064
no the obsesed fan thing was supposedly just a smokescreen so that the dad would not get implicated

>> No.48176161

>>48176064
Yes. The father also dated another celebrity and killed her by pushing her off a mountain for ships and giggles.>>48176064

>> No.48176166

>>48176044
I would make fun of you for being new but I also accept that so people got into vtubers after 2020 and maybe don't know very much about JP and also don't watch Holotalk.

>> No.48176178

>>48175790
There is no pro unicorn anti unicorn propaganda here. The author is just a hack writing some murder mystery garbage with a horrible isekai slop thrown in there.

>> No.48176200

Kronii gave up on Minecraft after 2 weeks. I wonder what happened.

>> No.48176214

>>48176133
>lazy
>actually streams
???

>> No.48176244

>>48175923
Source for the original intend? Killer was reveled to be father immediately. That's why Aqua joined show biz in the first place.

>> No.48176246

>>48175790
is this the persona 4 bad ending for the mc after the valentine events?

>> No.48176252

>>48175544
>IRyS gold
I'll take it

>> No.48176254

>>48176200
no vesper in the server

>> No.48176319

>>48175629
>>48175841
Yeah, Tempus was clearly a calculated risk. If you count success as “making a profit and establishing a foothold” a la HoloID, then that part was guaranteed. The main risk was in pushing back EN3 and the general stagnation that would inevitably result from that sort of neglect.
The “calculated” part is in figuring that fan backlash doesn’t matter in the long run and won’t matter once EN3 does debut.
Although I suspect that this is the reasoning from the JP side. The HoloPro twitter account is clearly using this as an excuse to be homobeggars. Who knows if they’ll ignore the girls this much whenever EN3 does finally debut.

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>>48176214
What fucking streams

>> No.48176399

>>48176200
>depression hort
she going through the high's and lows

>> No.48176423

>>48175382
I'm just glad people are beginning to actively turn on that account on Twitter

>> No.48176431
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bots

>> No.48176438

don't look kiara' numbers
so this is the power of korean songs

>> No.48176446

>>48176244
i need to find that article
original story was supposed to be no isekai but a regular idol thing with her getting killed by a fan early on and children growing up to become idols and follow a fans perspective and development into a unicorn culminating in the kid getting killed the same way as her mom
it basically got the naruto treatment

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>>48175790

>> No.48176470 [DELETED] 

>>48176200
She's not a number hungry whore like Fauna is who is still streaming it anyway despite missing her "Minecraft Monday"

>> No.48176473

>>48176399
Mostly the lows it would seem.
She should buy a really nice car or something. Life is too short to be depressed when you make hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's for poorfags.

>> No.48176480

>>48176319
The holopro account is going to be scrutinized as fuck to see if they mess up in promoting EN3 in lieu of the homos

>> No.48176502

>>48176319
Backlash doesn't matter but people losing interest due to lack of streams does. Those people don't necessarily come back once they've broken the habit of watching vtubers. There was a point where we were only getting 1-2 streams per day. It's better now but there's still large sections of each day without streams often including NA primetime.

>> No.48176526

>>48176349
You’re posting a schedule that has streams on it to argue your point. Are you retarded? I don’t even watch Fauna, and even I know that this is one of her lighter weeks. A week of four streams being one of her weeks where she takes it easy is not “what streams”.
We’re not talking about Ina or Gura here. Maybe you should switch dealers, because you’ve got to do something about the impurities in your current meth stash, schizo.

>> No.48176539

>>48176349
>posts list of streams almost every day
>can't seem to find the streams on the list
Sir, before I make fun of you I need to ask if you're retarded. I don't like making fun of retarded people, only people who act like retards.

>> No.48176558

>>48176349
They're right there. You realize this is also the week that Kiara, the power streamer of EN, has 4 streams for the week. She mentioned they're all busy with deadlines.

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48176568

>>48176447
U can't tell me what to do

>> No.48176579

>>48175947
Dang. I can't believe they're still inclining.

>> No.48176580

>>48176473
She can't, because kronies won't buy her merch

>> No.48176585

>>48176431
that unironically mythic doing pr control

>> No.48176586

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S0VxKQ0PGE
Jedi Fallen Order

>> No.48176604

>>48176431
I feel like people are really underselling the "7 months"

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Kiara is doing a great job at reminding everybody why she has the numbers she has

>> No.48176632

>>48176349
She's streamed like 20 times over the last month. How is that "lazy," you retarded fuckwit?

>> No.48176646

>>48176604
qrd?

>> No.48176655

>>48175947
HoloX i kneel, have they refreshed semi-old fans and replaced old blood? after that the box just did it's work and snowballed.

>> No.48176665

>>48176586
> ass crack 6am in the fucking morning
did Golden week already start?

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>>48175947
>As an aside: this chart for Hololive is very flat for most of it's period, but don't let this fool you: this truly looks more like it is something unique to Hololive
Here is the same chart, but for HoloEN, to illustrate that point.

The initial shape is predictable: there is no way HoloEN could possibly retain the massive heights of their 2020 heyday.
The chart is not at the same Y-axis scale, but the point where their average drops below 10k in this chart is marked: Oct 25 2021.
From that point, and up until February 2022 they dropped a couple more K on account of Council and IRyS not having the same initial lasting success as Myth had before, with Sana, Bae and then Fauna dragging their average down.

Then from February to August it was six months of relative stability, dropping only 200 points out of their initial 8000.
But from the end of August 2022 forward the branch trajector was
>AAAAAAAHHHHHHH (pink Wojack)
tier, dropping over 500 points in the next three months and then about that much more between then and now, going for a full 1k drop between mid July and the most recent number.

There are a lot of theories for this
>uncontrolled descent into terrain
but one thing is for sure: HoloEN needs desperatly to PULL UP and try to recover because this is the 365 days chart and which each month that passes the recent streams dominate more and more of this metric.

>> No.48176678

>>48176586
I think Mr. Koro should rest and should sleep

>> No.48176686

Heya, /#/, come watch this 2view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tUv8CPkZAY

>> No.48176700

>>48176446
Well, good thing he changed story then. While isekai stuff is dumb I had fun reading manga.

>> No.48176717

>>48176399
>>depression hort
that's kayfabe you idiot

>> No.48176734

>>48176431
LMAO
using bots to damage control is retarded

>> No.48176748

>>48176200
I think Mumei, Kronii and Irys decided to copy Gura and mentally check out. The thing is, they have 1/10th of Gura's pull so their inactivity is killing their channels.

>> No.48176751

>>48176431
post the source retard
>>48175109

>> No.48176766

>>48176646
>Asked by the fans about her friendship with Ironlung
>"Can you call someone who you haven't talked with for about 7 months as your friends?"

>> No.48176768

>>48176153
>>48176161
I need to go back and read it, because I remembered her saying that she knew him but I thought she was just lying.

>> No.48176773

>>48176604
>7 months
???????????????

>> No.48176774
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48176774

>>48176349

>> No.48176781

>>48176646
Silver said in response to people asking if she considered Mouse her friend that she doesn't feel like 7 months between interactions isn't conducive to a friendship

>> No.48176791
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48176791

Is this the worst performing Karaoke in HoloEN's history?

>> No.48176816

>>48176667
One day a graph that don't point the finger towards Tempus debut regarding HoloEN recline will be made, but this is not the day.

>> No.48176820

>>48176766
ohhh this is getting juicy

>> No.48176845

>>48176539
>Almost every day
4/7 days isn't "every day".

>> No.48176865
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48176865

Third in hours in EN this month and beats out a lot of JPs including Miko somehow
Try another angle

>> No.48176869
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48176869

>>48176431
> would be interesting if anyone else leaves soon
I remember the exact same dialogue happening when a certain someone left her company...

>> No.48176870

>>48176773
see >>48176766 >>48176781

>> No.48176873

>>48176667
>But from the end of August 2022 forward the branch trajector was
Wasnt that true for almost all of the en sphere even fleshstreamers? i remember someone posting a chart on how there was a huge drop that started around june and july for both twitch and youtube and some people were theorizing that asia becoming less restrictive and removing their work and school from home policy affected that

>> No.48176880

>>48176791
nijiseethe

>> No.48176884

>>48176431
>>48176751
Even talent agencies are doing bot psyops to manipulate public demand. Imagine how much better bot campaigns are from more sophisticated entities.
We should all probably get off the internet before it's 90% bots trying to control the 10% of real human users

>> No.48176906

>>48176558
No, she said SHE'S busy. Fauna has never mentioned at all ANYTHING about her deadlines, and she probably doesn't have any because she never does anything but stream. Except she's not even doing that now

>> No.48176913
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48176913

curious

>> No.48176926
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48176926

The only vtuber to appear in a mainstream anime and be the talk of the world. Kneel to Mem-Cho.

>> No.48176936

>>48176845
Oh, so you're legit retarded. I'm sorry for your condition. You should probably have your caretaker block this place.

>> No.48176939

>>48176446
https://soranews24.com/2019/09/29/narutos-author-kishimoto-reveals-what-characters-names-wouldve-been-if-editor-didnt-intervene/
this?

>> No.48176940
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48176940

>>48176791
Is this one a rebroadcast?

>> No.48176945
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48176945

>>48176884
>Even talent agencies are doing bot psyops to manipulate public demand.
Is that how we got Tempus by popular demand?

>> No.48176948

>>48176865
Meant for
>>48176349
>>48176845
>>48176906

>> No.48176960

>>48176766
>Can you call someone who you haven't talked with for about 7 months as your friends?
But that would mean I only have 2 friends...

>> No.48176978

>>48176940
no...

>> No.48176994

>>48176865
Wait, Festival is 2nd in hours streamed? What did she do this month? Was it VSaikyo?

>> No.48177008

>>48176791
Probably, her max is usually 8k.

>> No.48177013

>>48175581
There is no world where Gura could have been the accessory in her pairing, Mumei and Kronii are a lot closer number wise than GurAme ever were, IRyS ship is with the runtiest runt and Fauna has no ship to be an accessory. They never had a chance to be in that position so you can’t say Mumei would be fine with if every stream her chat was WHERE’S GURA, I’m leaving because Gura started, who cares about your solo plans play with Gura.

>> No.48177027

>>48176865
Because she did one fucking endurance that boosted hours

>> No.48177037

>>48176945
I meant to say public opinion, damn, that's pretty funny. I hope numbers-isms haven't slipped into my actual real-life vocabulary too.

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48177043

>>48176604
>>48176781
that's weird because Silver appeared in Ironmouse's birthday stream 3 months ago...

>> No.48177048

>>48175497
vsj is nowhere near powerful enough to be a foreign opium trader

>> No.48177057

>>48176865
Kaela having 120 hours despite the fact that she was on break is just frightening.

>> No.48177064

EN3 is just around the corner

>> No.48177077

>>48176447
Is that a Pajeet time zone?

>> No.48177096

You guys suck at understanding menheras, despite loving them.
Mumei retweeted a fanart of herself with cat ears an hour before that tweet, thus that fanartist, in all her menhera wisdom, vowed to not draw dog ears on Mumei ever again.
Try to think like your oshi, a menhera.

>> No.48177099

Watch Kiwawa you fucking faggots. You would cry too if Fauna got a sub 5k karaoke.

>> No.48177111
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48177111

>>48177064

>> No.48177113

>>48177043
silver was talking about actual interaction not company mandated ones anon

>> No.48177114

>>48176667
Do an AmeSame chart

>> No.48177115

>>48177043
When was the last time before that?

>> No.48177117

>>48175923
The dad being the one behind the fan finding and killing Ai was something the MC thought since the start though

>> No.48177126

>>48176626
I didn't even open the stream after seeing the KR in title and knowing her KPOP tastes
What did she do?

>> No.48177128

>>48176960
you talk to us everyday anon

>> No.48177133

>>48177043
DELETE THIS
SILVER IS NOT A LIAR AAAAIIEEEEE

>> No.48177135

>>48176319
Tempiss was anything but a calculated risk. Aside from their pitiful results, that we already discussed ad nauseam, we can speculate that Cover realized how much they fucked up and decided to backtrack
>compare the Tempiss debuts with the Tempoop ones, you can clearly see how much the attitude of the EN girls changed towards them
>Omegatranny was confirmed dead by Kiara in December despite the fact that he was there during the Tempiss debuts
>A-chan taking over the HoloEN channel and even Yagoo attending to the meetings

>> No.48177153

>>48177057
Let's be honest - Kaela's break is average EN normal week

>> No.48177165

>>48177064
EN3 is a SWAT team-themed gen.

>> No.48177175

>>48176865
Koyori falling off?

>> No.48177188

>>48176865
>Fauna
No one can anyone deny that Fauna is the best EN vtuber

>> No.48177196

>>48177096
Mumei is our oshi's wife not our oshi

>> No.48177199
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48177199

>>48177099
>You would cry too if Fauna got a sub 5k karaoke.
>Fauna getting sub 5k from anything other than SC reading now
We're dealing with numbers and schizo rrats here, anon. not pure delusion

>> No.48177209

>>48177135
>Omegatranny was confirmed dead by Kiara in December despite the fact that he was there during the Tempiss debuts
What'd she say about him?

>> No.48177211

>>48177043
Doing a scripted interaction for work isn't the same as talking to each other.

>> No.48177218

>>48176064
No but the dad told him her location and pushed him to do it

>> No.48177222
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48177222

>>48176319
>Tempus was clearly a calculated risk.

>> No.48177227

>>48176667
Imagine how the NijiEN chart will look like.

>> No.48177276
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48177276

>>48177064
>everything in the EN sphere is currently a trashfire
>yagoo releases EN3 like the descent of an angel to save people from the fire
KINO
but it's not happening

>> No.48177277

>>48177218
Yea, that's what I remembered.

>> No.48177282

>>48177222
>and boy are they bad at math.

>> No.48177285

>>48177222
The risk was calculated, but damn we're bad at math

>> No.48177291
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48177291

>>48175947
>>48176667
Here are both the charts for EN and JP, in the same scale and the same picture.

If you split the difference in the 9.5k like it truly looks like the incline of one is the recline of the other, but given the differences in the markets, that doesn't look remotely possible and is clearly a spurious correlation.

>> No.48177297

Wtf I thought the eceleb Rust server was supposed to be a giga buff. Why isn't it working for Matsuri and Axel?

>> No.48177315

>>48176939
theres another older one where naruto was just supposed to be a regular ninja that became strong due to hard work and powerups instead of ninja jesus. i remember it was around the time where people were still speculating on who Tobi was

>> No.48177323

>>48176865
>Lap-chan in the top 10
Schizos will NOT be happy

>> No.48177325
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48177325

>>48176319
>Yeah, Tempus was clearly a calculated risk.

>> No.48177328

>>48176667
Post-Tempus was what made me finally unsub from the Hololive subreddit and made me consider migrating to small corpos. I’m not a unicorn—I’ve watched some male collabs and also a few Tempus solo streams. But even I only find them occasionally entertaining. I can’t maintain any more than tourist levels of interest.
Unfortunately, it’s impossible to know for sure, but I really wonder what this graph would have looked like if they had either released EN3 first or released EN3 a couple months after. Would collab spamming to shill Tempus after EN3 debuted, for an average of 6 male collabers and 9 unicorn-friendly girls, have made a difference? Would it have blunted the post-debut incline (but still an incline)? Screwed over EN3? Would it have just been the four girls we have now since EN3 would have refused out of fear of killing their momentum?
I honestly don’t know.

>> No.48177331

>>48177276
>putting out a fire he himself caused
Gee, what a nice guy.

>> No.48177337

>>48177135
I know the linkedin account a week ago was the definitive proof about the end of omegatranny, but what did kiara actually said back then?
Also kek, sasuga our whistleblower chicken

>> No.48177415

>>48177297
you argue that it's not even working for laplus and towa too, so just Hologirls in general.
Meanwhile axel is a retarded RPR's lapdog throughout the entire sseason so it's given.

>> No.48177419

>>48177337
Wait, what LinkedIn account? QRD and how does it apply?

>> No.48177423

>>48176431
if Silver still considers Amelia a friend, does that mean they've talked within the past seven months?

>> No.48177424

>>48177117
thats the story after the editor stuff
original story supposedly had no isekai stuff around it and was supposed to be a regular unicorn cycle story

>> No.48177432

>>48177331
Dang how did Yagoo cause vshojo to stop being friends? Mind control beams?

>> No.48177473

>>48177419
Someone linked a linkedin account of the new Hololive EN head producer who's been on the role since december 2022

>> No.48177478

>>48176431
vshojobots damage controlling...

>> No.48177490

>>48177423
Yes

>> No.48177496

>>48177196
I said that your oshi is a menhera

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48177497

>>48176319
>Yeah, Tempus was clearly a calculated risk.

>> No.48177516

>>48176791
Doesn’t Ame get similar numbers these days?

>> No.48177540

>>48177222
I like how tally anon just switched back to just tallying the top 35 nijijp again in order to make them look stronger thinking that nobody would notice

>> No.48177547

>>48177473
You mean someone now looking for work has "Hololive Head producer" listed on their resume?

>> No.48177593

>>48177291
Can you do niji?

>> No.48177594

>>48177547
Not looking for work, actually in the job since december 2022

>> No.48177602
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48177602

>>48177099
I don't want to watch Kiara though

>> No.48177615

>>48177540
That's not the top 35, when that's the case it is indicated in the legend of the chart

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48177621

>>48176865
>pekora is going to have over 3M hours watched in april

>> No.48177622

>>48177547
Cover lists their open positions on linkedin

>> No.48177643

>>48177099
Sorry, I'm listening to actually good music rather than what she wants to sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECkxzFgbJqQ

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48177648

>>48177222

>> No.48177650

>>48177328
>Post-Tempus was what made me finally unsub from the Hololive subreddit and made me consider migrating to small corpos.
Honestly same for me but i came back to holo after i realized that the small corpos were also dumpstire fires of their own and were just basically just copying the big 2

>> No.48177661

Wait a second kiara is doing a KR karaoke in EU/NA hrs and she boot up Minecraft during SEA hrs...

>> No.48177670

>>48177593
>Can you do niji?
Niji dataset starts at July 2021 but yes, preparing for NIjiEN

>> No.48177698

>>48177594
So that means that the old head producer quit, got fired, got shifted somewhere else (Tempus) or was never the person using the Omega account in the first place.

>> No.48177707

>>48177297
It hasn't been a buff for anyone but the artists. Everyone else is taking a hit in viewers. I think some of the top fleshies are doing good but I don't know about their numbers. You got the usual king at the top and all the normal 10k plus but no one is really out performing expectations unless they're doing something other than play rust in the server.

>> No.48177749

>>48177423
Wasn’t silver a mod on her rm stream that she did some months ago?

>> No.48177750
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48177750

Silvervale is in EN3, Ame vouched for her.

>> No.48177782

>>48177209
>>48177337
I don't remember the exact words but Omegatranny was supposed to have his bday in December, someone asked Kiara about it and she hinted the guy is no more or in hibernation.
Let's be honest, no matter how much Yagoo loves DA BOIZ, no company in the world will look at these results >>48177222 and tell you how much of a great job you're doing.

>> No.48177797
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48177797

EN3 is abandoned
ZE HAHAHAHA

>> No.48177827

>>48177661
>SEA hrs
You mean JP hours, because JP members were who she's looking for. Somehow she picked the one day not a single one played the game lol

>> No.48177829

>>48176667
I feel like a lot of responsibility recently will fall on Mori's shit internet lol

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48177830

>>48176667
>Council and IRyS not having the same initial lasting success as Myth had before

>> No.48177849
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48177849

vshojo bros, what happened

>> No.48177853

>>48177698
Which is why this part >>48177782 is interesting, because it's basically an actual 2+2=4 now.

>> No.48177859

>>48177782
didnt jenma take over the head job?

>> No.48177890

>>48177827
>Somehow
Let's be serious, it's not first time it happened, for whatever reason she avoids playing Minecraft with JP holos

>> No.48177893

>>48177859
Jenma is head talent manager

>> No.48177895
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48177895

>>48177615
not really he just switched back which is why that mysterious suddenly exist
called him out on this last year and the guy went back to listing everyone but now it seems he doesnt care if the info is correct or not
Honestly not surprising since its the same guy who said that hololive going down 200 views was a recline but nijisanji going down 200 was just normal fluctuation

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48177917

>>48177849

>> No.48177920

>>48177859
No, that's head talent manager.

>> No.48177923

>>48177859
Jenma is not the branch director/producer like Omega, she's just the head of all the girl's personal managers.

>> No.48177926

>>48177315
>“Naruto’s Creator: ‘I’m going to give this badass character the name… Momotaro!’
>Editor: ‘Let’s go with Zabuza instead.’

>Naruto’s Creator: ‘I’m going to give this cool character the name… Kotaro!
>Editor: ‘Let’s go with Gaara instead. Also, stop making Kakashi talk like an old man.

>Yup, that’s right. Kishimoto originally wanted to name Zabuza, the Demon of the Hidden Mist with a huge sword, Momotaro. For those who don’t know, Momotaro is the name of the protagonist in the classic Japanese story Peach Boy, about a little boy named Momotaro who hatches from a peach and leaves home to beat up demons

>Here’s the other changes suggested by the editor that were listed in the tweet:

>Cutting out a ton of exposition.
>Putting in Sasuke.
>Making the Wave Country arc (with Zabuza/Haku).
>Stopping him from making the hokage and teachers animals.
>Having all the characters take the Chunin Exam all at once.
>The models for Rock Lee and the other Chunin Exam characters.
>Turning Naruto from a fox into a human.
>Changing Zabuza’s partner Haku from a bear into a human.
>Giving the protagonist narrow eyes and the rival wider eyes.
>Having him make the names of jutsu consistent for worlbuilding’s sake, rather than random and all over the place.

>> No.48177954

>>48177849
>Make friends with whoever you want.
Ironlung certainly took advantage of the freedom to not do this.

>> No.48177963

>>48177829
even un-mori'd un-kiara'd max power ina max power gura chart would show EN reclining

>> No.48177972

>>48177827
I expanded to SEA to mirror her audience but yes she picked the day with 0 Minecraft Frames up, tragic

>> No.48177981

>>48177594
I think Omegay got demoted to take charge Tempiss/Tempoop fully, there's a high chanche he is also the one behind holopro account twitter.
The guy who take over in December 2022 is the new manager and get rushed to debut EN3. Yeah they started looking for EN3 around January after Tempoop announced and the reception are hostile towards them

>> No.48177997

>>48177859
jenma is the head talent manager
omega was originally the branch director then got demoted to producer and finally probably got put in the janitors closet

>> No.48177998

>>48177750
no she's boring and rarely streams

>> No.48178020

Did Kson comment on it yet?

>> No.48178044

>>48177849
she was advised not to play, she still could've played it but she chose not to.

>> No.48178066

I wonder how many talented people were snubbed because the abnormal wait time for en3

>> No.48178069

>>48175159
Which is why the doujins usually have subaru taking control

>> No.48178072

>>48177963
Of course it will, and it really shows that "hard working" aka spamming shit no people give a fuck is also damaging

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48178077

>>48177849
>>48177917
oh the irony
you can't make this shit up
hackasaka aka should just look at vshojo for inspiration

>> No.48178118

>>48177859
nah, i forgot who said it (kek probably Kiara) but apparently she's offered the job but declined it, because her current workload is heavy already.

>> No.48178128

>>48177998
perfect fit then

>> No.48178131

Guys, I don't think we're getting EN3.

>> No.48178161

>>48177895
>not really he just switched back
You are talking with the very anon making the charts. In no occasion the top 35 went into the charts unlabelled.

>> No.48178170

>>48177849
All of silvervale's vshojo shilling and dexerto articles and stuff looks pretty stupid in retrospect.
She was giggling, overjoyed, to get the fuck out of there on that stream last night, and yet a year ago they were the best company ever!!!! talent freedom!!!!!

>> No.48178199

>>48175343
>>48175370
who is this slut

>> No.48178201

>>48177859
Omega was a Producer, whatever the fuck that means. Now that I think about it, I'm 90% sure that he was listed as such on this page
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/talents?gp=tag_office-staff
Anyone who can verify?

>> No.48178206

>>48178118
That was Gura in a members only

>> No.48178212 [DELETED] 

>sub 5k karaoke
Graduate the shitbird

>> No.48178251

>>48178170
>All of silvervale's vshojo shilling and dexerto articles and stuff looks pretty stupid in retrospect.
That would make for an hilarious collage.

>> No.48178255

>>48178131
Damn, you're smarter than I gave you credit for.

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48178256

Look at my wife

>> No.48178263

>>48177926
Thank god for this editor....

>> No.48178279

>>48177099
>You would cry too if Fauna got a sub 5k karaoke.
And I would watch Kiara is she wasn't an insufferable bitch

>> No.48178285

>>48178069
She loses to most of her peers with those things
Actual power ranking is something like Korosan>Mio>Fubuki>Subaru>Okayu

>> No.48178296

>>48178170
Didn't that retarded journo tattoo her on his arm or some shit like that?

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48178329

>>48177926
ill try and look for the older interview
it was basically said some retarded shit like uncontrolled george lucas tier stuff but it would have been better since naruto wouldnt have been ninja jesus
It would have been basically the same as with the inspiration which was ninku

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48178331

>>48178296
kek no wonder he's trying so hard to defend her back then

>> No.48178334
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48178334

I know brazilians won't make a dent on the viewship but chinks bought my country and next week they will put the same chink censorship over the internet
Can somebody tell me how the based chinksisters do to watch the forbidden videos like hololive on youtube?

>> No.48178399
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48178399

>>48175947
>>48176667
>>48177291
Here is NijiEN.

Their 365 days chart peaked when Luxiem completed their 365 days after debut.
Every day after that will have their strong streams from their heyday to fall out of range, and new weak streams from iLUNA and XSoleil era will enter the range.

Not a good prospect, that's for sure.

>> No.48178403

>>48175343
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>> No.48178408

https://youtu.be/tB4NBiB8aF0?t=5481

>> No.48178414
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48178414

>kpop karaoke
>time in korea 5:47

>> No.48178415

>>48178334
>next week they will put the same chink censorship over the internet
Lmao. every month the egg-head pulls this "we are going to censor the internet" bs
Nothing is going to happen

>> No.48178433

>>48177895
Huh i actually noticed some kind of weird uptick in their charts also even though there was no corresponding thing when you look at their raw numbers.

>> No.48178436

KIARA ON THE CRIPPLE TALLY

>> No.48178437
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48178437

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/silvervale-questions-friendship-with-ironmouse-following-vshojo-exit-2126213/

>> No.48178454

>>48177997
But anons told me Omega is not real but an amalgamation of whoever operated the twitter account, and talents never referred to Omega as a real person.

>> No.48178489
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48178489

>>48178285
Okayu is a natural sub

>> No.48178500

>>48178329
>>48177926
Reminds me of the changes some editor recommended to a western serial for publication.
Guess it's just an editor's job to make shit sellable, since that's why Nurutu is a gateway anime of the worst kind, and not something relatively obscure.

>> No.48178505

>>48178437
kek, that Ducky fellow got fired from this publication, didn't he?

>> No.48178510

how come every "EN" vtuber is fucking asian or sea

>> No.48178520

>>48178170
wasnt the dexerto article written and twisted by one of her superfan? would not surprise me if he twisted her words to make vshojo look good and shit on the other companies

>> No.48178528

>>48178436
Why lie about this...

>> No.48178539

Kpop karaoke is a hint about the next gen btw. It's KR1, not EN3.

>> No.48178559

>>48178436
faggot made me give her a view

>> No.48178579

>>48175954
>unironic leech
how? Other holomem "leech" way more than she ever has
>milk the shit out of your pairing
by literally just being friends? No friends allowed in hololive I guess. If anything the pairing stunted her growth and just made her a sidepiece.

None of that has to do with her recent growth considering that shit happened like 2 years ago. She's growing because of her game choice and really good 3d live concert she had that put some eyes on her. This is literally the definition of live and die by your solo content.

>> No.48178580

>>48178539
They better open up some auditions then

>> No.48178586
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48178586

>>48178415
Anon... The squid is on it...

>> No.48178591

>>48178437
What a shitty article

>> No.48178600

>>48178044
>NG ni narimashita
I don't know how that meant
>advised not to play it

>> No.48178609

>>48178201
Checked the snapshots on WM and he's not there even on August 2022, so honestly i doubt it.
For sure if you check IRyS' first MV his name is listed there as "Producer" though.

>> No.48178611

>>48178256
Looks suspiciously similar to my wife.

>> No.48178616

>>48178454
That was just homocope

>> No.48178632

Wait now I remember holopro twitter straight up announced they are actively searching Holostars new talents after Tempus2 debuted then the tweet got deleted and changed to they are actively recruiting both Hololive and Holostars EN.
Did I get it right, they only actively search for EN3 around the end of January? this is actually more grim than I thought. So we won't get EN3 at least until October

>> No.48178648

>>48178437
Archive at the current time.
https://archive.is/x2xzk
Let's see if the faggot edits something in or out in a while.

>> No.48178680

>>48178632
>Holostars
Go back

>> No.48178685

>>48178505
he left before that
>>48178520
yes

>> No.48178697

>>48178632
It was when they were advertising ID auditions that they included EN/Tempus auditions

>> No.48178703

>>48178399
>we're already this far into a downwards parabola
I can't imagine what this is going to look like after August this year.

>> No.48178731

>>48178632
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1624649502526144513

>> No.48178753
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48178753

>>48175414

>> No.48178763

>>48177013
Kronii completely outperformed mumei in the beginning and fauna tried to become an accessory at least twice. Bae gets more wife stuff than irys doesn’t seem to have any problems. I don’t know about Where’s Gura but the last one happens to every en in minecraft or rust like game. But i see your point it’s a skill issue small corpos and indies have to thrive on this or get no growth

>> No.48178768

>>48178632
No. They actually put that weeks before tempus 2. The recruting both is another one in february

>> No.48178817

>>48178256
what is it about AZKi's design that make her so beautiful? is it the lack of nose?

>> No.48178859

>>48178731
Yeah this one, how long it takes to get new gen from the audition announcement? Especially for EN girls

>> No.48178868

>>48178817
Perfect compatibility between body and soul

>> No.48178880

>>48178731
No way in hell they didn't take a peek at those comments

>> No.48178882

>>48175640
Bae didn’t seem to care, and mumei was the accessory but I see your point

>> No.48178893

>>48178559
>not watching the graphs

>> No.48178902

>>48178859
5 months

>> No.48178912

>>48178731
It seems like the one writing the tweet is a native Jap.

>> No.48178924

I just realize a terrifying possibility: Pekora become a collab/event host like Marine but even bigger and more often
Are we actually ready for it?

>> No.48178932

>>48178868
Perfect compatibility between the shape of her vagina and my dick

>> No.48178963
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48178963

>>43913260

>> No.48178982

>>48178817
Black hair with blue eyes is the preference of every man who's not a faggot (and also most faggots).

>> No.48178999

>>48175499
>Not enough number? Time to make my own mini arc

>> No.48179055

>>48178454
original omega was some jap that was there to train the en staff most likely that media and publicity guy yuki or whatever his name was that was in the document and like any jap liked lore shit
omega en was the one in charge and got lucky that myth blew up which gave him more power and leeway which is why loreshit is more heavier in council than myth and revolves around the oc donutsteal
slowly lost his leeway and power with his retardation to the point that myth and council werent doing lore stuff anymore and kiara made fun of him and it
probably got his last chance with tempus which was probably wasnt that too well recieved considering they are a lot lower than their peers which was Luxiem but on par with Noctyx which means it wasnt a total failure but the recline in the branch after their debut might have played a part in jenmas promotion and his demotion to holoenpro producer/stars head and probably got regulated to just stars after their 3view recline

>> No.48179061
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48179061

Reminder that Fauna and Mumei should move in together, and there are zero good reasons why they shouldn't

>> No.48179073

Are nijibronies pro holo now? At least the jp fans

>> No.48179175

>>48179055
Has any employee been so openly hated by the talents like Omega in Cover's history?

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>>48178329
I remembered that when I was a wee lad I liked Ninku and Shadow Skill

>> No.48179188

>>48179055
I won't read this post that fails to follow basic punctuation and capitalization rules.

>> No.48179189

>>48178768
Are you fucking kidding me, so EN management only start their audition process in February 2023?

>> No.48179208

>>48178632
anon that was a different tweet they were searching weeks before tempus 2 dropped

I still believe it had something to do with that sudden change of policy back in september

>> No.48179224

>>48179061
They both have pets, one is an old cat that needs special attention and the other is an obnoxious dog that need special attention. Fauna is messy and Mumei is not. They are both women.

There's various reasons.

>> No.48179231

>>48178414
It's the thought that counts.

>> No.48179237

>>48178256
Wait did she commission the wallpapers to the artist? Because it just looks like attaching the model to the background.

>> No.48179239

>>48179073
Nah, they will be back to their usual antics whenever they find something they can mass report

>> No.48179254

>>48179073
i don't know, check /jp/

>> No.48179295
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48179295

>> No.48179298

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3KeMNYdyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3KeMNYdyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3KeMNYdyk
easiest gold of her life

>> No.48179304

>>48175770
That’s a top tier streamer issue that’s not a problem at all in jp. Ever notice the closer they are to being a shitter the easier it is for them to be ok with it. People make the excuse about myth being around the world but so is council and every en generation that’s debuted ever. They have no issue pushing unity because they will drown otherwise. Gura and Ina are the only members without an ego because being top or bottom doesn’t matter to them. Kiara and Mori are all about success and Ame wants to pass or fail on her terms despite being part of the most successful en branch ever.

>> No.48179312

>>48179237
Artist drawings are gay shit, the cute message and image AZKi herself crafted is worth way more!

>> No.48179317

You guys were dead convinced Omega got fired before Tempus even debuted. The next time they use that account to tweet something are you gonna revise all this feverish headcanon again?

>> No.48179343

>>48178963
anon its not really a surprise considering that they signed up for a different company even before they announced the graduation
hell would not surprise me if mouse did the same thing by the end of the year

>> No.48179345

ok nips, why is Pekora so popular? Explain it to me

>> No.48179347

>>48179224
>one is an old cat that needs special attention
Anon?

>> No.48179360
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48179360

Is this lewd?

>> No.48179382
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48179382

>> No.48179397

EN3 will have bunny cunny.

>> No.48179400

>>48179189
That’s the implication of EN3 doesn’t debut in a month or so. But on the flip side, I’d they do debut soon then it means they’re trying to get EN4 ready asap

>> No.48179402

>>48179347
...you think Snail doesn't need special attention? Did you miss ALL the stories?

>> No.48179412

>>48179175
closet one would be subarus manager

>> No.48179414

>>48179360
NOT ENOUGH! MOTTO MOTTO

>> No.48179418

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xdBtV2ha9s
Lacunny

>> No.48179437
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48179437

Here is the number of gagged holo art I have in my folder

Aki 4
Aloe 1
Ame 18
Ankimo 2
Anya 4
Aqua 30
Ayame 17 (thanks draw anon)
AZKi 2
Bae 4
Botan 28
Choco 8
Chloe 30
Coco 13
Echo 2
Fauna 3
Flare 7
Fubuki 57
Gura 34
Haachama 13
Iofi 1
Ina 14
Iroha 7
IRyS 3
Kaela 1
Kanata 12
Kiara 11
Kobo 1
Korone 15
Koyori 5
Kronii 12
Lamy 30
Laplus 14
Lui 7
Luna 11
Marine 75
Matsuri 24
Mel 8
Miko 8
Mio 20
Moona 6
Mori 27
Mumei 5
Nene 6
Noel 22
Okayu 18
Ollie 4
Pekora 33
Polka 4
Reine 4
Risu 6
Rushia 22
Sana 2
Shion 14
Sora 10
Subaru 11
Suisei 73
Towa 12
Watame 9
Zeta 2

Link to the folder.
https://mega.nz/folder/5tg20KTR#tv_cJVAYWvlAmQkMCXE23g

>> No.48179440

>>48179345
>Ok nips
Wrong website

>> No.48179463

>>48178632
>>48179189
>>48179400
stop with this rrat, auditions for HoloEN have been opened since December of 2021. Go attentionwhore elsewhere.

>> No.48179472
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48179472

>>48179360
Pero pero pero pero

>> No.48179489

kiara please get on the tally hjoly shit

>> No.48179496
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48179496

ALL of Enna's graphs look like this when she streams in her usual hours.
A peak in the beginning, then a huge downslide.

You can SEE China going to sleep

>> No.48179501

>>48179175
Open /hlg/ archives during Holocaust and and see that open love for Cover, bonus point if you find the moment when Subaru's and Korone's videos were being deleted.

>> No.48179517

>>48179345
people say that she's the jp version of ishowspeed but the more closer one would be the jp version of ryansworld

>> No.48179524

>>48179175
lamy's old manager

>> No.48179545
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48179545

>>48179437
Based lol

>> No.48179567
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48179567

morning dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S0VxKQ0PGE
sngmi

>> No.48179595

>>48179496
>All
Wdym? I don't see multiple raids there

>> No.48179600

>>48179496
>You can SEE China going to sleep
Nah thats just 80% of all nijien streams
Most of the people check the stream and then realize a couple of minutes in that its boring so they slowly bleed out
Skill issue

>> No.48179603

>>48179517
She literally exist before ishowspeed even make a YT account

>> No.48179621

>>48175947
>>48176667
I just inputted some of your numbers. A full data set would be nice.

The "jitter" for HoloJP is getting more stable. The "jitter" for HoloEN is kind of a mess. Jitter means the rate at which acceleration changes. HoloEN is actually pretty volatile the past year and HoloJP's rate of acceleration is consistent.

>> No.48179631

>>48179345
She's like a JP, non whore, non lazy version of Gura. Of course she'll get big numbers.

>> No.48179662

>>48179603
not really since speed existed way back in 2016

>> No.48179686

>>48179631
Gura and Pekora have different styles of streaming, don't be retarded

>> No.48179695
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48179695

>>48175947
>>48176667
>>48177291
>>48178399
And here is Nijisanji (the japanese branch).

They have the most lopsided median vs. true average curves and the likely explanation is that their CCV is MASSIVELY TOP HEAVY.

The great majority of their streamers have low day to day streams but even once in a blue moon
>debuts, 3D debuts and, most frequently, tournaments
they manage to get one or two (comparatively) very big streams for each of their streamers, pushing their global average up without improving on their medians or the global one.

>> No.48179702

>>48179631
>non whore
Gura wasn't groped by an ojisan on stream.

>> No.48179710
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48179710

Faufau doko?

>> No.48179711

Dog destroyed Kiara in seconds.

>> No.48179754

>>48178600
It's just a Vcopejo excuse. They assumed since the company is so adamant about freedom(TM), then it must be "advice".

>> No.48179758

>Still posting "peak" charts even with Z and raids
Why is chart anon a retard?

>> No.48179759

>>48179517
Are you calling her black?

>> No.48179765

>>48178510
Mori-white
Kiara-white
Gura-white
Fauna-white
Mumei-white
IRyS-hafu
Ame-spic

>> No.48179784
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48179784

>>48179710
Soon..

>> No.48179785

>>48179686
>different styles of streaming
Streaming and not streaming?

>> No.48179790

>>48179765
Kiara wishes she was white, kek.

>> No.48179806

>>48179496
It's been a while since I see that kind of graph. Enna's graphs tend to have at least decent retention rate, even with some raids.

>> No.48179809

Here's the sad thing. En management believed they could catch lightning in a similar way to the nijien waves. The sad part is that the same management stubbornly refused to adjust their views for over a year. There isn't even an indication that they have adjusted and admitted fault, they rather seem to be doubling down. I don't even watch EN but I sorely hope that anyone involved in that decision is no longer with the company.

>> No.48179810
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48179810

Top 10 of this Hour

>> No.48179811

>>48178510
By "every "EN" vtuber", you mean NijiCN, right?

>> No.48179821

>>48179759
no im calling her asian which is why she is the jp version of ryansworld and not ishowspeed

>> No.48179842

>>48177849
Holy kek that last part.

>> No.48179870

>>48178880
Of course they didn't. They've shown themselves to be tone deaf and have basically no awareness of the fan community.

>> No.48179874

>>48179600
Doesn't happen to Fauna and she's a boring fucking whore

>> No.48179906
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48179906

>>48179785

>> No.48179908

Oh hey, reddit got nuked. Might get more tourists

>> No.48179918

>>48179304
Ina actively rejected ships, was the one to shut down the Mythkids trend and deliberately shut down any InaRyS ship before it could start.

>> No.48179917

>>48179809
Anon what timeline are you in? Niji was the one who thought they could catch lightning in a bottle which is why they transformed niji india into nijien and then closed it and then debuted the holo rejects which were the loe wave

>> No.48179920

Did Gamma actually end up mogging Kiara last night?

>> No.48179932

>>48179908
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.48179970

>48179631
>48179785
The VWhorejo subhuman comes back to cope about his whores leaving with retarded bait.

>> No.48179975

>>48178256
Some day she'll learn about anti-aliasing, but it's not this month.

>> No.48179984

>>48179874
That the thing anon
Nijien is just that boring and unentertaining compared to Fauna
Theres a reason why majority of the nijien girls are holo rejects

>> No.48180002

>>48179908
the lsf?

>> No.48180043
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48180043

>>48179874

>> No.48180046

>>48179908
You made me check the website and it's real.

>> No.48180049

>>48179621
>I just inputted some of your numbers. A full data set would be nice.

HoloEN: https://files.catbox.moe/ytx8l0.txt
HoloJP: https://files.catbox.moe/hadp3a.txt

Tab separated, copy and paste on Excel

>jitter
Fewer members and fewer streams would explain that, no? With a third of the streamers (now, a sixth when it was only Myth) and likely even less proportion of streams, any change in numbers by any of those would be much significant.

>> No.48180073

The Vshojo news came and gone like a wind..... nobody cares enough to keep talking about them

>> No.48180081

>>48179975
Downsampling > AA

>> No.48180107

Actually talking about Ishowspeed its pretty weird that he suddenly fell off the face of the earth after they found a more controllable version of him with that other black guy kai

>> No.48180147

I thought you guys said global was a KFP hugbox? They're barely even discussing Kiara's stream

>> No.48180184

>>48180107
bj stream let's gooooo

>> No.48180188

>>48180147
It is

>> No.48180238
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48180238

save her, Luca

>> No.48180250

>>48180147
The fact that people even watch her in the first place or that KFP is even tolerated there makes it a hugbox, anon.

>> No.48180274

>>48179908
Stop vagueposting, anon

>> No.48180282

Huh bae is back in japan

>> No.48180288
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48180288

>> No.48180300

>>48179917
Anon, stay focused. This has nothing to do with anycolors decisions, the current slow drain and prolonged death of HoloEN lies solely with the management decision to not debut HoloEN 3 and rather go for Tempus.
That decision is pretty obvious that it was influenced by the success(temporary) of luxiem, i.e. trying to catch lightning.

>> No.48180321

>>48180073
This really isn't the main place Vshojo fans hang out. Most people here watch either Japanese vtubers or vtubers belonging to their EN spinoffs. I would even say collectively the small EN corpos have more fans than Vshojo here. Also it's the fact that they aren't really ending the characters, it's just a change in association but they keep streaming and using the same models.

>> No.48180339

>>48180250
they're just incredibly obnoxious most of the time, and people gave up trying to deal with them. which I think was the plan.

>> No.48180347

>>48180282
slowchama...

>> No.48180356

>>48180147
You made me check you retard. Literaly 90% of the thread is just about her karaoke. Why lie about stuff like this?

>> No.48180391

>>48180238
Yeah, these are some fucking grim numbers. She could get 4k+ with no issues a couple of months ago. I guess Nina was right about her channel dying and being dead.

>> No.48180408

>He finally caught some (you)s

>> No.48180410

>>48179908
It's now back.

>> No.48180420

>>48177291
>but given the differences in the markets, that doesn't look remotely possible and is clearly a spurious correlation.
Is it though? The number of foreign viewers in JP chats is noticably higher these days. A lot of former HoloEN fans are fleeing to HoloJP.

It makes more sense when you realize only 30% of HoloENs viewership are native English speakers. The rest are a mix of Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese and various SEA countries. Demographics that clearly can and will just go back to watching JP if EN turns to shit.

>> No.48180421

>>48180049
I need to do more analysis but yeah, members going in and out will change the rate of acceleration. I'm gonna do some wavelet filtering. These are very accurate in showing inflection points and discontinuities.

>> No.48180430
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48180430

kek
>hand to hand, holo to holo
As long as there is one JP girl streaming the box will be with them.

Pekora to Luna to Korone to keep the top position of the hour for the whole japanese dead of night.

>> No.48180441

>>48180356
Any post that starts with "I thought you guys said" is by definition a shitpost.

>> No.48180443

>>48180300
Anon if they were trying to catch the lightning in the bottle that was luxiem that would require them to go back to china in the first place
Its pretty clear that tempus was nothing more than a failed expirement like xsoliel/iluna and the upcoming gamer wave

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>> No.48180476

>>48180420
You got any proof?

>> No.48180494

Holokek won't get EN3 this year lmao

>> No.48180505

>>48180421
Notice that you will be doing said analysis on something that is already aggrevated, being the average (and the median) on a long period of time (365 days) and a big number of streams

>> No.48180516

>>48180443
You put too much faith in Cover doing market research

>> No.48180528

Houkisei will be a mama for someone in EN3. Her H-cup Suisei will no longer be a dream.

>> No.48180574

>>48180420
ever heard of language barriers

>> No.48180600
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Didn't Vshojo get literal millions from investors some time ago? Where did that money go?

>> No.48180604

>>48180516
and you put too much faith in suits not being retarded when it comes to correlation
come on now anon weve seen the same shit before like the sony leaks

>> No.48180611

>>48179790
Then what is she, enlightened one?

>> No.48180624

>>48180528
EN 3 is DOA anyway so why bother with them

>> No.48180628

>>48180073
VShojo is not a cohesive project, it's an umbrella brand for loosely associated streamers. The model has its downsides and the fragmented and uncoordinated audience is one of them.

>> No.48180635

>>48180600
talent freedom ads on shibuya station

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>>48175414
>36,399: Flare (Hololive)
What went wrong with shiraken?

>> No.48180660

what's the last sub 5k holo karaoke?

>> No.48180658

>>48180600
>new contract
oof, expect more vshojoers to leave

>> No.48180668

The Subaru comment about swimsuits got clipped

>> No.48180670

>>48180443
>would require them to go back to china in the first place
Exactly, they didn't understand anything about what they were trying to emulate. And the real problem is that they didn't accept that it was a failure and just kept pushing.

>> No.48180676

>Tourney announced
>People start to play Mario
>Except the retarded EOP who decided to play the exact same shit as last week instead of training
Fauna should drop out before Peko assigns people

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>> No.48180698

>>48179874
Hmm, maybe that means that you are wrong. Nah, can't be, you have an IQ of 145 after all.

>> No.48180699

>>48180624
Isnt that the same with jp7?
seems like cover smartened up and realized that the future is the id market and not the stagnant jp one or the dying en one

>> No.48180711

>>48180600
investors want some return on investment

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>>48180658
here are the next ones

>> No.48180717

>>48180420
>The number of foreign viewers in JP chats is noticably higher these days
It's not noticeable. Quite the contrary, some Holos even lost their in stream TL and their usual clippers between 2021 and 2023. It seems the opposite, that they went full blown on the JP market and any EOP that wants in need to do both their language reps and their cultural reps too (see: Kanata recent variety show).
>It makes more sense when you realize only 30% of HoloENs viewership are native English speakers
I sincerely doubt it and would like to see some numbers backing this

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>>48180476
Right most pie chart.
Blue is America
Orange is Japan
Grey is Taiwan
Yellow is Indonesia

Canada is green with 3%

>> No.48180736

>>48180600
Kson pocket. Shilling Vshojo isn't a charity.

>> No.48180751

>>48180147
Other than the fact that the thread is extremely slow for karaoke standards, the thread still seems to be discussing her?

>> No.48180749

>>48180698
Says the braindead retard who enjoys her boring garbage.

>> No.48180756

Will Vshojo make it to 2024?

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>>48180715
Miguel will finally be freed from the blacked company...

>> No.48180770

>>48180600
90% unironically went to the backpack project and some probably went to ksons signing bonus

>> No.48180786

>>48180600
She got a sweetheart deal (literally) from her boyfriend's company so Vshojo can't really compete with that.

>> No.48180799

>>48180698 (me)
Ignore that I can't double-check my posts.

>> No.48180805

>>48180639
forced group that no one really cares about save for two members at best and theyd do better in other groupings

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>>48180420
The number of foreign viewers in JP chats is noticably higher these days. A lot of former HoloEN fans are fleeing to HoloJP.
No it isn't you fucking retard.
https://holochatstats.info/langsum

>> No.48180814

>>48180574
Yes? That's the point retardo. Most EN viewers already have a language barrier.

>> No.48180824

>>48180699
ID is dead end too it's just EN 3 is going to be a complete flop

>> No.48180829

>>48180505
Yeah, a day by day would show me everything to the extent a good extent. I figure this set won't show me anything but stable acceleration on the JP side.

>> No.48180852

>>48180660
tempus

>> No.48180854

>>48180756
yes

>> No.48180879

>>48180670
Not really especially when you read that statement they released some time ago
They probably thought that the non mainland chinese market was the same as the mainland one and thought they could find success there

>> No.48180899

>>48180731
This is specifically Gura, and specifically in 2021. We have no clue if her audience makeup applies to the rest of HoloEN, and we have no idea if these trends still hold up past HoloEN's reclining period

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>> No.48180937

>>48180807
JP is inclining too so a stable number of chats means that foreign viewership is increasing in absolute terms

>> No.48180946

>>48180731
Proof that more EN speakers are in JP streams. A long time ago someone scraped the chats for language %, you'd need to do something like that.

>> No.48180951

>>48180901
abayo nugget

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>>48180660
>what's the last sub 5k holo karaoke?
Here are all HoloEN sub 5k streams with "karaoke" on title on vrabi's record.

Most recent would be Kiara's christmas karaoke in February (rebroadcast)

>> No.48180963

>>48180824
not really since cover invested in id more than the failures of jp and en
they know that the other markets are dead and stagnant

>> No.48180969

>>48180639
Become a merch shill unit for Cover
Also their popularity is too unbalanced, Micomet being there prevent the rest of them from being in the spotlight, including the founder herself. Group like Bakatare is much better for Flare and Polka

>> No.48181008

>>48180953
>Fauna literally worse than Kiara
Kek

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EN cope is off the charts today huh.

>> No.48181030

>>48180676
Bro...it's the company tourney, not her, she only contribute the idea and they put her as the host

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EN3 soon! Everyone in En rushing to secure their paypigs before they debut

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>> No.48181061

>>48180953
based failures
look how fauna has risen to the top now even with her shit singing

>> No.48181071

>>48180879
Honestly we need a western business journalist having an interview with yagoo. That's the only way we'll get a real answer. Nip journos don't really ask the important questions.

>> No.48181079

>>48181016
>Decided to permanently fuck over Ina and Fauna
Holy fuck

>> No.48181085

>>48180963
COVER invested a lot in Holostars too so your argument is invalid

>> No.48181089

>>48181032
>>48181016
wait is this a membership post or not?

>> No.48181097

>>48181032
Does Ame even care about her paypigs?

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>> No.48181114

>>48180430
Rust numbers is grim

>> No.48181126

>>48181016
>work on stuff behind the scenes
huh i kinda remember that last time she used that phrasing was near council debuts

>> No.48181153

>>48181016
I'm glad Ame spends so much effort thinking about how to structure her streaming schedule and then just streams at random times between two different platforms anyway.

>> No.48181158

>>48181016
>thanks for the feedback lol
ah, of course
>ameway
the retard just doesn't want to commit, so it's "scheduled guerrilla" streams now

>> No.48181156

>>48180963
>cover invested in id
Where is that investment then? One cafe?

>> No.48181173

>>48181097
yes, that's why she made a member post, not like other chuubas...

>> No.48181183

>>48181032
That or someone in myth/council is leaving soon. Now is the time to be active and lock down an upset leftovers.

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>> No.48181194

>>48181016
This "Ame Way" shit seems awful from an outsider perspective. Just another way for a lazy HoloEN to say "I doo what I want and if you don't like it get fucked". Terrible twitch streamer mentality that is doing more than any Homo collab is to ruin the branch.

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IF HOLOEN GOES DOWN WE'RE TAKING THE LAST SAMURAIS WITH US BANZAAAAIIIIII

>> No.48181200

>>48181079
at least it's official now kek

>> No.48181210

>>48180953
>Half of them are Kiara
Yikes...

>> No.48181241

>>48181085
pre ipo? yeah
post ipo? lol they wont get shit unless they hit their quota

>> No.48181244

>>48181016
>AmeWay schedule
kek
>schedule for only Friday, Saturday and Sunday
red flag 1
>depending on my sleep schedule
red flag 2
>busy with watson family stuff, holo work and thinking about the future
red flag 3

Ame audience has it rought

>> No.48181250

>>48180814
are you equiparating learning japanese and english? you have to be trolling

>> No.48181271

>>48181079
Ame will be buried by the girls that people want to watch. It's not 2020.

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>> No.48181306

>>48181016
graduation soon holobruhs

>> No.48181305

>>48180715
Everyone has been saying Nyanners is the next to go, she doesn't really need vshojo and hell she could probably stop streaming and just become a housewife if she really wanted to
Hime isn't even a real streamer, she's just giguk's wife who wanted to stream as a hobby, doesn't make much sense for her to be in either
Nazuna everyone knows was a mistake to join. She would probably be more successful on youtube as michael cat exclusively.

>> No.48181310

>>48181097
Not really.

>> No.48181311

>>48181016
Ah of course, the infamous #AmeWay

>> No.48181320

>>48181016
this sounds like soft-graduation teabros

>> No.48181333

>>48181194
It's bad form all perspectives, the only ones okay with it are the domestically abused teammates

>> No.48181336

>>48181194
It started as a rather funny goofy meme tho but devolved into this

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>> No.48181355

>>48181210
Kiara literally has the worst singing in EN, anon. Sure, Fauna and Ame might ""technically"" be worse, but at least they have bearable voices and good setlists. I'm not sure how Kiara even became the second or third most successful EN when it comes to music.

>> No.48181377

>>48181250
Nobody is learning English to watch the lazy whores. So no. Anyone watching EN for funny noises will switch over to JP funny noises if EN doesn't deliver. Most EN viewers are asian. EN lost those viewers and so are in terminal recline. Pretty simple.

>> No.48181383

>>48181194
tempus was actually a good excuse for a lot of teamates to stop having to deal with her schedules

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>> No.48181396

What is "Watson Family stuff"? Stuff she makes for her audience ("family") or literal family?

>> No.48181401

>>48181158
She saying “Ameway 2.0” at least. So she knows it needed an improvement over wat it was and how she was acting.

Honestly after Kiara went on and said how she is Gura’s bf now, seems like Ame lost her way trying to saviourfag the homos….

>> No.48181403

>>48181016
>schedule
it's gonna last three weeks

>> No.48181407

Well atleast Kiara got 5k.

>> No.48181406

>>48181355
She tell her fan to loop her music, that’s it, it’s that easy

>> No.48181427

>>48181305
I wonder if Nazuna has some fucky contract

>> No.48181439

>>48181305
>VshojoJP goes back to being a one man group

>> No.48181438

>>48181355
Because she actually releases music and encourages her fans to engage with it.

>> No.48181440

>>48181396
are you retarded?

>> No.48181441

Is the connect the world concert gonna be recorded in japan or america?

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>> No.48181472

>>48181097
she doesn't even take supas

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>> No.48181482

>>48181032
What the hell are all these deadline for?

>> No.48181486

>>48181210
Have you seen her set list?
It’s literally 2000s white girl music and idol pop

>> No.48181489

>>48181079
Neither of them are too affected by Ame overlaps

>> No.48181495

>>48181333
>teammates are ok with ame streaming less
>chumbuds are ok with gura streaming less
THEY ARE

>> No.48181498

>>48181401
>Honestly after Kiara went on and said how she is Gura’s bf now
Watson and Gura were never close. You're falling for shipping like Micomet fans who think Suisei is actually finger banging Miko on a daily basis.

>> No.48181504

>>48181097
>ame
>caring about paypigs or supas

>> No.48181530

>>48181406
>>48181438
What fans? She struggles to get 3k viewers on pretty much anything.

>> No.48181541

>>48181427
When did she join again? Has it been a year?

>> No.48181548

>>48181079
>ame having any effect on fauna or ina
rumao

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>>48181480
>>48175414

>> No.48181561

>>48175629
They just need to protect HoloJP, if the other side branches fail it's not a big loss.

>> No.48181564

>guerrilla during weekdays
>consistent timeslot on weekends
How long will that last and how many guerrillas will she end up doing

>> No.48181573

>>48181482
Connect the World and probably Holosummer

>> No.48181584

>>48181486
>it's the music choice and not the unlikable streamer's fault
weak cope

>> No.48181583

>>48181541
July

>> No.48181598

>>48181016
Why even bother asking for feedback if all that's left are just her yesmen after she hard filtered most of her audience?

>> No.48181618

>>48181573
Why would they need to record shit at home for a concert.

>> No.48181642

>>48181561
Would be pretty funny considering cover relies on their foreign fans for success since they basically dont have that much of a mindshare in japan according the recent surveys

>> No.48181645

>>48181482
All the EN girls seem to have them so more than likely En Concert. If there is a EN con to go with it then it would make 100% sense.

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>>48181550
>>48175414

>> No.48181701

>>48181642
>recent surveys
Please cite them

>> No.48181731

>>48181016
>weekend schedule + weekday gorillas
better information than whatever gura and mumei are doing

>> No.48181737

>>48181618
probably merch shit and some stuff that needs their approval or input

>> No.48181741

>>48181085
>>48181241
I do wonder what the situation will be for the Stars and the future tempuke members. Hololive girls, regardless of branch will always be a success relative to the greater industry and to their most immediate competition (Niji). The males do not have that same luxury. Standardization of Merch for the homos is already a clear sign that someone sat Yagoo down and told him the reality of wasted opportunity cost. No way that the saviourfag Yagoo would allow DA BOIZ to be discriminated so something definitely went down behind the scenes for shit like quotas to actually become a thing.

>> No.48181759

>>48181598
It's the song and dance. She pretends to open to criticism and her fans pretend that she doesn't warrant any.

>> No.48181758

it really takes a special talent to have an unarchived karaoke be sub 5k

>> No.48181761

>>48181598
Because now she gets the answer she wants. The remaining yesmen can give the illusion she gives a shit about what her fans think.

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>>48181652
>>48175414

>> No.48181791

>>48181701
dumpster dive a few threads back since it got posted

>> No.48181796

>>48176200
She's just taking a break, she'll play Minecraft ahain when she no longer has indie games to play.

>> No.48181804

>>48181758
the chuuba i follow only gets 34 ccv

>> No.48181807

>>48181741
That much is obvious with how they hid the homos on the financial document

>> No.48181815

>>48176655
That was supposed be to be En3 as well

>> No.48181838

>>48181758
Noone likes Kpop. Its garbage

>> No.48181846

>Pekora solo GBF from a few months ago
67k
>Pekora + half of hololive + some Niji girls
67k
Pekora unironically reclined

>> No.48181843

>>48181016
I remember when she was the kaela of EN during her first month in 2020

>> No.48181861

>>48181741
Probably some new hires to manage the stars around last december since the stars were doomposting about it back then.

>> No.48181874

>>48181758
Same for sitting a whole thread constantly seething about some broad

>> No.48181878

>>48181642
40% foreign fans with a large chuck of their profits coming from the USA.

>> No.48181909

EN3 ah ah ah

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>>48181016
>schedule that ""early"" in the day
i cant see it lasting she has horrible sleeping habits due to her very procrastination problems. She has several days she wakes up and its almost the fucking evening.
>busy with family/offstream work
yeah typical stuff shes talked about for ages already
>thinking about the future
either grimbro angle or just content ideas but honestly with her heart not being in the job for ages at this point im leaning grimbro

she needs to either figure out if she actually wants to be doing this or for someone to wrangle her and add structure to her life because she has none and it shows because she hasn't been able to add it herself.

>> No.48181945

>>48181909
EN3 announcement this 4 btw

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>>48181770
>>48175414

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Imagine being a fantasy RPG guild going to battle and your opponent is this

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>>48180937
Still absolutely wrong you fucking retard.

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>>48181403
Who the fuck schedules their Friday, Saturday and Sundays?
*** Unless it is a part time job / side gig ***, wouldn't it make a whole more sense to schedule the weekdays and rest on the weekends?

Also, all this blaming on "deadlines" reminds me of three things
1) the "it's not always us" moment, with Kiara urging the girls to make a public commitment on holding to their end of the bargain
>We need to improve ourselves, because if we don't why would other people improve themselves.
and finishing their stuff on the deadline
https://streamable.com/rzax14
to which the girls ALMOST commited to, but Ina interjected
>it's not always us, sometimes it's them
and it became a "blame the management"
2) Kiara lamenting, at their off collab in Japan, that the girls had decided to blow a deadline for a recording and not even informing management about it, which she had to do
3) Also Kiara mentioning that management used to not hold the girls to "deadlines" and "things are turned in even ten days late"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jXJgsGDwks&t=1005

All of the EN girls are complaining about "deadlines" now and it's obvious why
>old EN management got pushed away
>JPs are managing things personally
>they expect deadlines to be fulfilled

Something really changed with EN management, and more likely than not they're having the girls at very least to deliver on commitments they assumed

>> No.48182014

why is this thread talking about EN3 so much recently

>> No.48182030

>>48181758
It takes a LOT of talent for an entire group of 30 vtubers to be sub 5k every other day.

>> No.48182051

>>48181936
considering she has a members stream called "brainstorming" and three TBD streams I assume she ran out of ideas

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>>48181962
>>48175414

>> No.48182059

>>48181984
>unironically relying on chat scrappers for the en language
pretty retarded since that scrapper thinks that lmao and lol are non english words

>> No.48182070

>>48176906
Gura, Kronii, Ame and Kiara have talked about recording deadlines, any other girls?

>> No.48182072

>>48182014
To keep the GRIM away

>> No.48182071

>>48181807
Yagoo to investors: “Don’t ask me about Holostars, I won’t answer any questions”
That alone showed that he was embarrassed to some extent.

>> No.48182086

>most of EN is going to stream very little once again to do shit we'll see months from now
i still can't believe management didn't have the foresight to see this and release EN3 sooner to alleviate the problem

>> No.48182100

>>48180639
Started out as a group of friends messing around, ended up being a merch shilling unit. I enjoyed their contents a lot more back when it was just messing around in Minecraft, but recently all they talk about is 3D stuff like glamping and other shit. It's weird since I like every single member especially FlarePol, but I don't care for them as a group.

>> No.48182105

>>48181996
perhaps old management had a lot of work for the girls but didn't send the papers, now they have less time to do it

>> No.48182108

>>48182014
the more I talk about EN3 the faster a new nijiEN gen debuts

>> No.48182126

>>48182014
>recently

>> No.48182129

>>48180749
That just brings me closer to Iroha, so thanks for the compliment.

>> No.48182161

>>48182105
old management was probably lax as fuck when it comes to commitments especially with the turn in 10 days late stuff

>> No.48182170

>>48182059
Good thing that's a consistent behavior across the entire collection period and as a result doesn't introduce a bias on the time axis presented data. The scientific term would be "that calibrates out".

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>>48182052
>>48175414

>> No.48182212

>>48182105
This is some very retarded assumption considering, in the first point, you can see clearly Kiara desperately trying to have the girls to make a public commitment and even Ina non committal response was not even
>we are trying our best
but
>it is not ALWAYS us

>> No.48182223

>>48182014
we're like three months away from two years without new EN holos, it's only getting worse

>> No.48182225

>>48182086
The run up to Connect the World would be an awesome time for EN3 to really be hyping everything up with streams and talking about how they can't wait to join the next year. Instead we'll get a ton of dead hours while the existing talents prepare.

>> No.48182243

>>48180731
>the majority of Gura's viewers are SEAmonkeys
Oh no no no

>> No.48182242

>>48182014
What else is there to talk about with EN?

>> No.48182252

>>48182014
If EN3 doesn't debut before summer the window closes until October, marking a 2 year gap without a new gen. At that point it's over, holoEN is officially dead and not in a "haha grim" kind of way.

>> No.48182259

>>48182108
*NijiJP
Reminder that TWO NijiJP generations have released since the start of the year and they're about to get a THIRD soon.

>> No.48182260

>>48182170
not really since the fact that it doesnt scrape lmao or lol is itself its own bias data which already taints the unreliable data
not to mention that some emojis for some retarded reason also gets registered as en

>> No.48182265

>>48181996
I for one is glad that someone lit a fire under their ass for once

>> No.48182268

>>48176940
Kiara just doesn't get tourists. The Minecraft collab is evidence that the problem is her, no other reason for the low numbers.

>> No.48182270

>>48180715
So, hypothetically speaking, if Nyanners and Nazuna (Hime is irrelevant) decides to call it quits and pretty much kills VShoujo the brand since the'll pretty much be just IM and friends. How does that affect the twitch vtubing scene and the EN scene in general? I know that, even in it's weakened state, HoloEN is still king of the wasteland that is the EN vtuber scene but VShoujo is still a pillar of the community. If they were to die or even just be significantly crippled, does PC or even jewcorp try to encrouch on their territory? Does Mythic try to sell itself as VS 2.0 but "better"?

>> No.48182306

>>48182086
The entire plan was to have Tempus fill that hole but it failed and backfired on them.

>> No.48182328

>>48182105
>it's not always us, sometimes it's them

>> No.48182341

>>48182270
Vshojo already was just IM when she leeches from connor, everyone else is irrelevant.

>> No.48182344

>>48182243
>anon cant even read a simple pie chart
kek euros are literally on the same iq level as sea

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>>48182270
>VShoujo is still a pillar of the community

>> No.48182398

>>48182161
>old management was probably lax as fuck
They didn't care, they're salaried workers, they couldn't care less about the health of the branch.
Succeed, fail, they get paid and if they get sacked, they have "worked for Cover managing Hololive" in their CV (formally or informally).

From day zero in Hololive history, the responsibility to ensure their personal success and the one of their branch always fell on the back of the girls and it is no different in the EN side.
In the end they can choose to wash their hands, disclaim "it's management to blame" and fail but, if that happens, there is no consolation prize.

>> No.48182429

>>48182306
Pretty much this, if you for one second imagine the homos as hologirls they would be able to fill out the empty hours but no one wants them for obvious reasons

>> No.48182441

>>48182051
im still a member for a few more days i wonder if i even bother to tune into it to see what shit even happens.

>> No.48182463

>>48182270
>Vshojo is pillar of
Stopped reading there, it is Iron Mouse who might be a pillar of EN Vtubing but the rest? Not so much

>> No.48182466

>>48181965
I'd do my utmost best to overpower them so I could take them all as my wives and impregnate them all

>> No.48182467

>>48182306
You would think that they would have a backup plan? As of right now they are just slowly losing EN viewers.

>> No.48182486

>>48182347
the twitch scene, such as it is, still revolves around them to a fair extent

>> No.48182487

>>48182260
And I'm sure you have data to present that suggests that Hololive is funnier in a time dependent manner that results in an increase/decrease of EOPs only posting lol, or do you just not like the conclusions that can be reached with this data which doesn't need to worry about small quibiles like that because of the massive number of data points sampled means that it's internally consistent to a very high level of precision which allows trends over time to be easily observable even if the absolute measure of accuracy might be poor which is meaningless when making internal comparisons?

>> No.48182494

>>48182270
Vshojo hasnt been a "pillar" in the community since forever anon which is why they tried to branch out with otk/otv tt stuff and try to leech from them.
They are especially not a pillar now that gunrun doesnt have the same pull as before with the new ceo which is probably one of the reasons why the vshojo girls jumped on mythic and ditched vshojo

>> No.48182519

>>48182467
The backup was probably tempiss 2

>> No.48182551

I really don't understand people that assume EN viewers (who don't speak Japanese, nobody speaks fucking Japanese except truly dedicated rare weirdos) are watching tons of normal JP streams.
They watch EVENTS. That percentage of EN viewers Cover was bragging about was the main channel, not like, random game streams for a normal Holo member.

>> No.48182554

>>48181194
Twitch streamers have to try, most of the time

>> No.48182555

>>48176791
It’s lack of streams guys that’s what’s killing kiara’s numbers

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>>48182306
>the girls are going to be really busy and stream less, what are we going to do
>release a bunch of talentless faggots, they'll love it

>> No.48182565

>>48178437
TO THE CATALOG

>> No.48182570

>>48182270
>Does Mythic try to sell itself as VS 2.0 but "better"?
Mythic only role is to put you in the same room as Weinstein, conduct your hands to firmly graps his hands, give him a firm handshake, look him in the eyes and say
>I am here for the job, I'll be the next star in the vtuber world

That's all they do, match make the latent with potential sponsors and content producers

>> No.48182588

>>48182306
When you say that management really put a lot of safe guard for Tempus debit. They make sure they are there in place of EN3 for maximum spotlight, no new gen near them to maintain it and a myriads of reasons ready to justify their existence to everyone

>> No.48182617

>>48181355
Kiara can do great on karaokes when she picks good songs
Alas, rather than singing unusual or at least funny songs she sings kpop more often than not

>> No.48182624

>>48181846
>niji whore debuff
Pekora actually inclined. Should've been an easy 150k if not for the leeches.

>> No.48182628

>>48182347
Look at the state of the EN vtuber community and you’ll understand how unfortunately true that statement is.

>> No.48182629

>>48182519
Their backup plan was more males in case the first set failed? That seems so stupid.

>> No.48182633

>>48182398
>the responsibility to ensure their personal success and the one of their branch always fell on the back of the girls
not really considering most of the major screwups for hololive that affected the girls were from management ranging from old stuff like mel and hitomi to new stuff like with haachamas college depression arc or with the failed streaming ban for stars

>> No.48182642

>>48182270
PC lost one of their two talents that stream on twitch, they're mostly irrelevant in that scene. Idol doesn't really stream on twitch at all. The thing with Vshojo "graduations" is that the vtubers themselves are still there. It's much less of a change then someone completely redebuting as another character. If Vshojo completely breaks up or just becomes Ironmouse and friends I don't think it changes much. Successful indies like Shylily will keep doing their thing.

As far as Mythic goes, it's a general streamer talent agency, vtubing is just a part of their portfolio. They could try to get all the successful vtubers under representation but it will never be a coherent vtuber "brand".

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>>48182190
>>48175414

>> No.48182662

>>48182551
Noooooooo anon, you don't understand, muh cute noises, just do your reps for half a decade, it's so worth it!!!

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>>48182270
Huh.
I was going to post about how Nyanners and Vei's numbers are already low and it's all in IM, but they have decent hours for Q1.
Forgot Veibae was still doing endurance gaming before her month long break and Nyanners came back to streaming (partially irl).
They both had more streams than the undisputed CCV ruler of Twitch - Ine.

Zen is doing great hours as always, but the brand was carried by those 3.

>> No.48182666

>>48182487
Sounds like EN cope to me.

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>>48182570
>>48182270
>Does Mythic try to sell itself as VS 2.0 but "better"?
No but it's effectively what they are.

>> No.48182688

>>48182243
Isn't this chart like two years old?

>> No.48182687

>>48182629
It makes sense if you are retarded and actually believe that people want the homos

>> No.48182689

>>48182429
>Imagine if boys are girls
EN management is a bunch of troons. Also fuck Yagoo for being such a faggot.

>> No.48182693

>>48182487
Your data is as good as my data anon which tells a lot about the data that got collected.

>> No.48182695

>>48181965
I wouldn't last even a single minute before coming

>> No.48182701

>>48176960
You are conflating men and women. Remember ywnbaw. I have friends I don’t ever speak to but I can send a message right now asking when they’d be free for a drink

>> No.48182716

>>48182588
And this was during Sana’s graduation week when maximum eyes were on the branch. Even the homos were like “yo, can we delay it? We don’t want to debut right during a graduation”.

>> No.48182740

>>48182519
jesas

>> No.48182744

>>48179765
by "hafu" Irys's parents are both asian right? Not sure where her father is from

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>>48182650
>>48175414

>> No.48182780

>>48182629
What made you think that smart people were making smart decisions?

>> No.48182785

>>48177008
Kiara hasn't gotten anywhere close to 8k on any of her karaokes in the past year or so.

>> No.48182799

>>48182347
>>48182463
It's unfortunate but that's kind of the reality of it with how much they sold themselves as the "anti hololive" corpo. It doesn't help that they're the top "EN" vtuber group on twitch (we all know isegye mogs them but they're technically focused in KR). VS is pretty much the go to model for people who want to advertise themselves as "not hololive" vtubers and we all know there are a shit ton of vtubers like that on twitch because of them. Hololive's walled garden might be a sanctuary for CGDCT but the vtuber world outside is anything but.

>> No.48182805

>>48177750
>Silvervale name drops Hololive and shits on them and all other corpos.
>She'll be in EN3
DYRBI?

>> No.48182811

>>48182629
You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge success and then started bleeding heavily after they collab spammed with Holo.

>> No.48182836

>>48182559
>he thinks that the decision to release more tempus members came from en and not from the top of the jap management
anon have you never worked before? its impossible for middle management to decide on new hires without the consent of the top echelons

>> No.48182850

>>48182551
For whatever reason a lot of this thread seems to assume that the average stream watcher's tastes are exactly like their own.

>> No.48182869

I can just imagine how EN worked in the past
>Management sends them orders for recordings
>They all deliver them on time
>Management ghosts them about the project that never gets worked on
>Eventually they just give up

>> No.48182880

>>48182811
>>You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge success
ehhhhhhhhhh

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>>48182811
funny guy

>> No.48182902

>>48182869
You can keep imagining

>> No.48182904

>>48182588
>>48182716
>Safeguards
I didn't realize that until you pointed that out. Holy shit this is such an embarrassment even after all those preferential treatments.

>> No.48182933

>>48182570
>That's all they do, match make the latent with potential sponsors and content producers
Not really since they also provide the same shit as vshojo like legal shit and connections for merch suppliers
They are basically vshojo but with bigger clout and more soft power

>> No.48182946

>>48182519
Nah. That was part of first plan. They scraped backup plan in first week after Tempus debut, because they believed they succeeded.

>> No.48182968

>>48182869
You missed the part where they stopped the girls from streaming, apply yourself anon

>> No.48182973

>>48182869
>They all deliver them on time
Kiara already blew the whistle on that and said Mori delivers her recordings over a month late. No reason to think Gura or Ina are on top of their work behind the scenes when they clearly can't manage their schedule in front of the camera.

EN management might be bad but that doesn't mean the EN girls aren't lazy as fuck

>> No.48182981

>>48182836
i'm just gonna copypaste an old post
Sure, but I would expect the CEO to have the final choice only after someone else made some kind of analysis and report of the situation and proposed a few options to him and others at upper management. And since we're talking about the EN branch, I would assume this analysis and report was done by the people in charge of the EN branch who, seeing Luxiem's (temporary) success, decided it was a great idea to change the winning formula they had for a jump in the dark.

>> No.48182984

>>48182850
The angle is to shit on the EN branch.
Cover has said the EN market is very profitable and important. If the EN market also watches predominately HoloEN, that means HoloEN is very profitable and important. Several posting "factions" really hate that idea, ergo they constantly have to push that EOPs all over the USA are watching random JP streams for hours in a language they don't speak that all start at like 2-5 AM local time, rather than the obvious explanation.

>> No.48182986

>>48182551
I don't understand why people that don't watch JP holos assume that noone else does it
Every time JP holos call out for EN viewers they get tons of replies even in middle of bog-standard stream

>> No.48182997

>>48182811
>You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge success
Not really since they never reached luxiem success but only reached mid noctyx level before bleeding

>> No.48183005

>>48182744
When he was on her stream people were saying he sounded Malaysian or something like that. The mom is presumably JP.

>> No.48183007

>>48182693
Ah yes, all those graphs you posted. Sure are convincing. You're welcome to scrape the data yourself and normalize to the number of Kusas to try and remove any time dependent humor level effects, but until then the charts pretty clearly show that the internally consistent metric of EOP posting has not shown any increase despite the incline of the JP branch.

>> No.48183026

>>48182494
I think that's just something that's happened recently (within a year at least). There's definitely a burgeoning power vacuum in the en scene that's starting to surface. If VSHoujo falls, then some corpo is gonna try to takeover the top twitch vtuber group spot.

>> No.48183046

>>48182811
>You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge success
lmao

>> No.48183073

>>48182588
I feel like someone put a lot of effort into convincing the higher ups that the dudes were in high demand because no way in fucking hell that they don't know the disparity between JPhomos and the JPholos and would go so far as to sacrifice the holos for some homos over in JP

>> No.48183090

>>48177650
Same but there’s 1 i ended up liking and another i sometimes watch. I ended up unsubbing from half of en and maybe jp if they keep pushing it. I just start to care less and less

>> No.48183093

>>48182904
They literally probably even have damage control measures ready in case they actually failed (not that they will ever admit they failed tho)
Everything was done to make sure Tempus at least isn’t failure compare to Niji

>> No.48183119

>>48182904
They’d probably still be above the JP homos if not for the wave of cross-gender collabs, Vesper’s suspension, and a second helping of Tempus. Those three things have irreparably damaged the EN homo brand.

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>>48182551
Watch Koyori. Very enjoyable with minimal JP knowledge and you'll learn the language as you watch. There's no reason to keep watching EN slop, and pretty much nobody does these days except a handful of autists who are dead set on watching English only streamers because they refuse to do their reps.

>> No.48183141

>>48182811
even Vespers initial performance is way overstated

>> No.48183143

Kson's silence is deafening.

>> No.48183156

>>48178066
Fit is more important than talent. Kawaii 3rd gen is a cautionary tale on why you should never prioritize talent.

>> No.48183168

>>48183073
Except they prevent Holos from streaming during Holostars events, and also make them wait in line at the studio for Holostars projects.

>> No.48183175

>>48183073
My post actually imply the opposite. They knew that Tempus failing is a possibility and that’s why they have so many safeguard for their debut to avoid it as well as all sort of PR

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>>48182811
>Tempus was initially a huge success

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>>48180505
>>48180829
Yeah, there is a massive inflection point around August. Now that I think of it wavelets are robust enough to detect something event though it is a running average of 365 samples.

Too lazy to put dates.

>> No.48183220

>>48183175
Yes but it doesn't explain why they took en3's spot

>> No.48183221

>>48182981
>Sure, but I would expect the CEO to have the final choice only after someone else made some kind of analysis
Not really especially when this is a jap company with 2 big problems
first thinking that they are still a small company and second being a jap company with an en branch
its the same problem toyota, sony, mitsubishi, nintendo etc has when they first expanded to america and that was to halfhartedly apply jap values while at the same time try to combine it with western ones which usually results in disaster.

>> No.48183244

>>48182984
>EOPs all over the USA are watching random JP streams for hours in a language they don't speak that all start at like 2-5 AM local time
Nobody said that. The EN viewership is only 30% American in the first place. EN are losing the asian viewerbase to JP. Americucks are of course unfortunately stuck with their lazy whores but nobody else is and when 70% of your viewers can skip out and watch superior JP content instead it's obvious what will happen.

>> No.48183245

>>48178044
When did nazuna ever listen to advice?

>> No.48183266

>>48183143
?
She was busy making out with her new girlfriend for 3 and a half hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7bjDDPUL94

>> No.48183300

>>48178131
They put out a reminder about auditions. It will happen at some point.

>> No.48183304

>>48183007
anon considering how tainted the data is my graph would be as good as yours even if i made it with ms paint

>> No.48183307

>>48183143
Are you blind? Yeah, it doesn't mean jack but she did comment on it.
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1651106146479132675

>> No.48183316

>>48181846
>numbernigger
>can't count
>retarded take
pottery

>> No.48183328

>>48182880
>>48182893
>>48183046
I mean half was above 5k and the other half above 1k. At the time they were the most successful star unit then collabs and part 2 crashed them to jp level.

>> No.48183354

>>48183143
If you were her what would you even say? Yes she often talks when she herself has nothing meaningful to say so it wouldn't be out of character to just make pointless vague statements, but it's better if she doesn't. It's none of her business really. Just say "im sad they're leaving but we'll still be friends" and leave it at that.

>> No.48183365

>>48176349
Oh boy more Minecraft and ASMR shit. Fauna is the laziest EN with the worst content.

>> No.48183378

>>48183138
Koyo can be enjoyed even without JP.

>> No.48183380

>>48183328
>>I mean half was above 5k
uh maybe for a few weeks at best

>> No.48183390

>>48181996
I really like you leaving out the part where “blowing off” was “we need all 5 of us to do it, Kiara is out with NijiEN and we’re not waiting until whenever she gets back and recording at 1am we’ll do it tomorrow”.

>> No.48183391

>>48183119
>he thinks its just the en homos that have been damaged
anon a few weeks after tempus 2 debuted they had to ramp up trying to get more new members since their top paypigs were now spread too thin

>> No.48183393

>>48181846
>Pekora vs Pekora

>> No.48183411

>>48183266
Who is this bitch she always collabs with?

>> No.48183435

>>48183300
Id be depressed if that was actually the EN3 audition reminder since it means they seriously haven’t thought about debuting girls in 2 years.

>> No.48183457

>>48182811
They were just drawing tourists from the existing holobox. Tempus barely brought in any new viewers.

>> No.48183464

>>48183244
>He thinks all of Asia speaks Japanese

>> No.48183468

>>48182981
I don't really see EN management having that much of a say in things. At the end of the day the decisions come from Yagoo and his inner circle at headquarters. They might get some reports from EN management but probably not enough to sway things that are planned at least 2 years in advanced.

>> No.48183509

>>48183391
I was speaking under the assumption that the JP homos are already a lost cause and that any extra damage is overkill.

>> No.48183511

>>48177963
>>48178072
No it would show that the branch damage was done by homos like I keep saying

>> No.48183536

Oh, time for the East to wake up. I'm off to bed before they spam/doxx/bait, or whatever brings them joy.

>> No.48183537

>>48183380
Week 1 - “HOLY SHIT YAGOO, WE STRUCK GOLD! LETS RAMP UP THE SECOND GEN!”
Yagoo: I’m magging!

>> No.48183544

>>48183328
post graphs or fuck off, sis

>> No.48183545

>>48183220
So they can took EN3 hype for themselves duh?

>> No.48183546

It's going to be really interesting to hear if one of the girls in en3 slips up about when she sent in her audition

>> No.48183550

>>48183435
Does it really matter if they "thought about it" for 2 years and did nothing with it? All that matters is when they actually debut.

>> No.48183558

>>48183464
>He thinks all of Asia speaks English
Going from understanding 50% of a stream in English to 50% of a stream in Japanese is really not a big deal

>> No.48183560

>>48183390
>waiting until whenever she gets back and recording at 1am we’ll do it tomorrow”.
Then someone besides Kiara should have told management it was delayed, before going to bed.

>> No.48183563

>>48183509
jp homos got even more kill anon

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>>48183537

>> No.48183580
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>>48175790
not exactly pro unicorn but , he just jumped the shark when backpedaled the most spicy thing
what a coward

>> No.48183589

>>48182986
Sure they do, but that doesn't mean that the EN market mostly watches JPs.
ENs get tons of JP responses when they speak Japanese. We're talking about thousands of people here, a small percentage can flood a chat when they're all prompted to speak in a distinct way at once.

>> No.48183600

>>48183568
I dare Yagoo to release another Homo gen seeing how Tempus 2 is doing these days

>> No.48183621

>>48183580
see>>48175978

>> No.48183651

>>48182973
>Kiara said
You going to bother posting any kind of proof?

>> No.48183652

The fact the Oshi no Ko author is on the Rust server interacting with Matsuri and Laplus is hilarious to me

>> No.48183679

>>48183600
>mixed gen will fix EN woes!

>> No.48183686

>>48183600
are you implying releasing Tempoop was justified?

>> No.48183685

>>48183390
They had a planned time to record and Kiara went back home before that time to make it in time.
This is like making plans and meeting up with a friend at 3pm, you show up and they cancelled without telling you.

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>en3
its been 9 months since Tempus bros, 9 months of guessing EN3 for sure, EN3 soon, EN3 tomorrow.

>> No.48183716

>>48183304
>internally consistent data can't be used because Anon disagrees with the definition of what an English post should be

Quick, anon. Does posting "waifu" count as EoP or JoP? How about "seiso", "Idol", or "Live"? I pray to god that you never get to actually work in a scientific field, since I would have to murder you for not understanding how data collection works and the usefulness of internally consistent measurements.

>> No.48183724

Myth's status
>Depression and burn out again
>Went schizo and streams sometimes
>Is stable for now
>Grim numbers doing everything to recover her numbers
>Ceiling and her floor is exactly the same
can EN3 fix this?

>> No.48183725

5k dorya

>> No.48183742

>>48182744
She is half Japanese. That's what halfu means

>> No.48183744
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This Shiranui series is pretty cute...

>> No.48183747

>>48183685
Nah kiara arrived a bit later than expected

>> No.48183749

>>48183652
laplus already left retard, make better baits next time

>> No.48183755

>>48179463
>>48178731
Retard homobeggar

>> No.48183767

>>48183380
The collabs happened pretty quickly because of "popluar demand". That was really the start of their fall from grace.

>> No.48183773

>sisters are using debut buffs to claim Tempiss was succesful
even xsoleil/iluna got decent numbers the first couple weeks

>> No.48183779

>>48181878
it's not like niji doesn't rely on foreign fans from China and SEA

>> No.48183780

>>48183686
Well management did try to justify it
I merely want to see the homo stretching their audience even harder

>> No.48183785

>>48183468
I can totally see EN management doing their best to make the worst of corporate’s awful decision, though. I can’t imagine JP is telling them to use the social media accounts to shill the males and ignore Gura.
I wouldn’t be surprised if JP said, “Hey, some of the girls want to do male collabs, right? Maybe encourage them to plan some of the content they want to do since we want to shill them anyway.”
And EN management going, “Great, we wanted to get rid of those nasty incels anyway. Let’s provoke them and sic homobeggars and change the culture.” Because if someone’s been in the business world long enough to be hired as management for EN, do you really think they watch vtubers enough to get that seething over Tempus2 is not automatically sign of unicorn behavior?

>> No.48183786

>>48183550
My honest guess is that EN3 just had actual delays. Lui's mama explained that these things are planned way in advanced. He thought he was going to be a mama right out the gate but it took over a fucking year to even get something done. I see people blaming Tempus but that shit was probably planned out since Covers venture into the EN market way back in 2020.

>> No.48183789

>>48183694
Kiara 5k bro
Rip Avicii.

>> No.48183804

>>48183694
We were speculating about EN3 long before Tempus. Back then it was with joy.

>> No.48183834

>>48183716
>only my specific data is valid all other data is not
people like you are the reason why the scientific community is getting shit like the replication crisis

>> No.48183838

It's so funny that's the are so many big time yabs happening that are chock full of drama and all you guys want to discuss is Tempus, who aren't even doing anything to warrant this general's animosity.

>> No.48183843

>>48183780
>wanna really stick it to the homos anon? you just have to push for another homo gen lmao

>> No.48183849

>>48183804
i remember earliest speculations with any weight were June and July.

>> No.48183869

>>48183558
The whole world speaks English, it's the international standard language of commerce, science, diplomacy, travel, etc. etc. etc.
Anyone college educated needs at least some English. Who the heck needs to learn Japanese, a language from a shrinking and very insular country? It's only useful if you want to do business with autistic zaibatsu dinosaurs or watch anime.

>> No.48183873

>>48183328
This is basically saying holoX was a huge success because Chloe was getting 90k gaming streams

>> No.48183876

>>48183724
EN3 can't help Mori, Ame, or Kiara. They have their own issues. Ina and Gura are fine they just need to stream.

>> No.48183880

>>48183411
some gravure idol i think, i dont know i just went to her insta and found lot of tits

>> No.48183883

>>48183468
Some of this thread can't bear the thought that JPs can make mistakes so they've decided that EN management has an absurd amount of power to make decisions on their own.

>> No.48183886

>>48183789
>>48183725
>Struggling to break 5k on an unarchived karaoke
Grim.

>> No.48183892

>>48183300
EN3 would've debuted already if Cover wanted it. People say all kinds of things about the scarcity of suitable applicants, but it's not THAT strict. EN3, contrary to what this thread thinks, doesn't need to be a hit on its first day, or even on its first YEAR. New talents are long term investments and sometimes the most unexpected people incline ahead of everyone else.

HoloEN's main hiring issue is that most people who know it exists and has open auditions are the male viewers.

>> No.48183899

I remember last year Golden Week we were cheering for Pekora to beat company event with her own. She wasn’t in the company tourney last year
She beat it so hard they just let her host it this year

>> No.48183901

>>48183755
>get called out for his retarded rrat
>h-homobeggar
go back

>> No.48183914

>>48176349
>Using Minecraft as a crutch to pump up her numbers
The sad state of Sapkeks

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>>48183694

>> No.48183943

>>48183767
I remember some anon saying that the collabs would be the start of tempus recline since most of their audience were homobeggars and collab tourists and some people said that thats impossible
Turns out the guy was right in the end

>> No.48183944

>>48183785
Jokes on you anon, they hired in California. The removal of undesirable males is the goal itself

>> No.48183946
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>>48183773
>what is sarcasm?

>> No.48183967

>>48183838
>so many big time yabs happening that are chock full of drama
Holo or Niji? If not I don't care

>> No.48183991

>>48183724
Yes. It can hide it by bringing out new girls and streams to hide Myth’s underperformance. The “stop asking for EN3 because you want shiny new toys” cope from homobeggars elides the fact that the “toys” we currently have aren’t just old, some of them are broken.

>> No.48183993

>>48183849
Tempus got the most widely speculated "EN3" debut spot. 11 Months from Council's debut, just like Council was 11 months from Myth's debut.

>> No.48184001

>>48183931
that anon khs waiting for EN3 to drop Kronii...

>> No.48184002

>>48183843
that would probably push either aruran or astel to schizo territory kek

>> No.48184013

>>48183967
Well, by the looks of it Gundou is probably going to be terminated too but that's just a rrat.

>> No.48184031

>>48183468
Yeah, until the day that they create actual subsidiaries in the US and Indonesia for EN and ID, all their staff and management are going to be at Cover HQ in Japan. And that means they are not as far removed from upper management and Yagoo as people like to think.

>> No.48184035

>>48181936
Just bears repeating, but these are obvious signs of long-term burnout

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>>48183773
Also, no, xsoleil/iluna numbers were shit right off the bat.
Even the Scarle lewds numbers plummeted immediately after debut.

>> No.48184045

>>48183838
The very concept of tempus and its implication for en3 is the biggest yab in the english branch

>> No.48184059

>>48183838
They're existing, when EN3 isn't, and nobody can or will ever forgive them for that

>> No.48184063

>>48183244
This idea that EN only has 30% of an NA fanbase is based on one chart for one member that is several years old. I seriously doubt that Cover would be putting on an EN concert in America if only a little more than a quarter of the branch's viewer were there.

>> No.48184067

>>48183944
>anon doesnt know
anon the ones left in commiefornia are the rural ones
most city slickers have moved to texas and florida

>> No.48184068

>>48183892
Literally everyone in the vtubing and anime-adjacent community knows what it is and that they have open auditions, at least anyone with any remote interest in being a vtuber.

>> No.48184078

>>48183838
>yuri was literally who'd by phasefags since forever
>alpha whore who'll give up on vtubing and another one unironically who'd by her own company

i just like watching them implode desu, the catbox clips were juicy. is silver's VOD still up?

>> No.48184080

>>48184013
Is there anything actually saying that Anykara has to announce talent terminations?

>> No.48184084

>>48183328
At the risk of being called a homobeggar, I'll admit that the first 3 weeks of Tempus and /mans/ was magical. They were never gonna be as succesful as Luxiem but they definitely were not failures like how lolisex and iluna were. Had they stayed in their lane like many hoped they would with the occasional collabs with Mori and Bae, I think shit would have been fine and they would be considered as a success. However, Ame and Kronii's retardation, the brotuber mask falling off them, management's (both EN and JP) very obvious push of the homos to even the detriment of the girls (lack of EN3, the no overlap rule, the active push of the homos even in what used to be Holo exclusive events) really soured people on them and the brand in general. They stopped being the underdogs that you kinda rooted for to succeed at a distance and became that annoying retard cousin that you had to deal with using kid gloves. I honestly think that Cover trying to rebrand the stars with Tempus and Uproar was a good idea but they didn't go far enough with it. It would've been better for them to have started from scratch as a seperate group with absolutely no affiliation with the Hololive brand and the stigma that came with it (male idols in a company whose star attraction are females)

>> No.48184108

I really hope Ame gets her shit together and keeps this schedule at the very least.

>> No.48184109

>>48183993
What if EN3 comes out 11 months from Tempus debut so around June? or 11 months from Tempus2 debut, so like November

>> No.48184110

>>48183786
>Lui's mama
He made another design for Cover before he even made Lui. That's probably the "right of the gate" part

>> No.48184132

remember this?
https://vocaroo.com/1eirfFSVTmaq

>> No.48184135

>>48183244
The americucks that actually pays what they support is showed in the report, unlike SEA poors can only watch and do nothing financially but claim they are relevant lol

>> No.48184141

>>48183785
I just don't see the whole shock people have that a business is trying to shill there least desirable thing to people ie Tempus. Gura does well on her own. She can get away with a 3 month break and come back just fine.

>> No.48184171

>>48184080
Not really since they have a precedent with Tsumugu so they can just put gundou in "eternal hiatus"
https://www.youtube.com/@user-hk5qj2kc4x/streams

>> No.48184177

>>48183834
Once again, you have taken offense to the methodology without presenting any differing data despite claiming to and when pressed you go into a retarded spiel about making in MSpaint because you have a solely unfounded belief it's wrong, nor am I claiming it to be an accurate measure of EoP posting rate but merely precise. You are the reason that the replication crisis exists, because you are unable to look further past the graph labels made for drooling retards like yourself, to the stated methodology and then generalize the results to be exactly what you want in your head instead of what is stated to be measured.

>> No.48184186

>>48184067
>florida
try colorado

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