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>>48175110Lucky star was bigger internationally than K-on to the point that some prisoners were being tortured and forced to dance that song in some country in sea along with some haruhi songs
Pippa should deactivate her bannedvtmeme account and atone for her sins.
GRIM
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>67,379: Pekora (Hololive)>50,393: Yorumi (Nijisanji)>40,166: Subaru (Hololive)>37,795: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>36,399: Flare (Hololive)>31,931: Aqua (Hololive)>19,132: Koyori (Hololive)>13,831: Ange (Nijisanji)>13,232: Voltaction (Nijisanji)>12,566: Watame (Hololive)>12,301: IRyS (Hololive)>11,947: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,138: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)>10,940: Chloe (Hololive)>10,938: Okayu (Hololive)>10,243: Ina (Hololive)
How's the all out war going?
Who won today?
>>48175414>APRIL 2023 GOLDS1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,037 - Apex VSaikyo 5 tournament16) Pekora (Hololive) - 244,788 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament17) Miko (Hololive) - 55,500 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Nene & Mel18) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 122,091 - Host outfit 3D reveal19) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 40,447 - Rust20) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,780 - Granblue Fantasy collab21) Marine (Hololive) - 96,062 - Pro seiyuu auditions w/Miko, Polka & Koyori22) Kanata (Hololive) - 104,665 - 3D birthday variety show23) Miko (Hololive) - 51,761 - Soulcalibur 624) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab>PER COMPANY16x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji3x: Neo Porte1x: Indie>PER STREAMER7x: Pekora4x: Miko3x: Hal1x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Kanata, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY87x: Hololive20x: Nijisanji4x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER34x: Pekora10x: Marine8x: Miko5x: Toya4x: Hal, Subaru3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, Yashiro
At the end of the day, after all this time, what we learned is that Cover was actually right.We made fun of them, but in the end they knew what they were doing.
>>48175436Wouldn't Niji be China, Cover Japan, and Vshojo a foreign opium peddler?
>>48175474>24) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy>25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab>26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab
>>48175379Not to dox myself but if I'd won re-election in 2020 prisoners and illegals in the US would be singing and dancing to shiny-smiley story and more recently PARADE PARADE PARADE. It would have changed everything.
>>48175483>what is tempus2
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>4/26 DAILY TALLY12,301: IRyS (Hololive)10,243: Ina (Hololive)5,126: Mori (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal10) Kiara (Hololive) - 15,972 - Easter Collab11) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,199 - Minecraft12) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,504 - Minecraft13) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,986 - CouncilRyS RPG14) Kronii (Hololive) - 11,753 - 2.0 Reveal15) Gura (Hololive) - 19,449 - Choo Choo Charles16) Baelz (Hololive) - 27,878 - Outfit Reveal17) Gura (Hololive) - 17,691 - Choo Choo Charles18) Gura (Hololive) - 16,667 - Baldi's Basics19) Kiara (Hololive) - 7,271 - Minecraft20) Ina (Hololive) - 18,401 - Karaoke/Announcement21) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 12,392 - Touchstarved (w/ Vox, Ike, Sonny, Doppio)22) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 88,255 - Outfit Reveal23) Ina (Hololive) - 28,128 - Outfit Reveal24) Mori (Hololive) - 8,583 - Minecraft (w/ Kobo)25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,650 - Birthday Stream26) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,301 - Unarchived Karaoke>PER COMPANY21x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Kronii3x: Baelz, Gura, Mori2x: Mumei, Kiara, Ina1x: Sonny, Selen, Fauna, Fulgur, Mysta, Vox, IRyS>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)25p: Kronii23p: Fauna, Ina22p: Mori21p: Baelz20p: Mumei17p: Kiara15p: Gura12p: Luca11p: Vox9p: IRyS8p: Sonny, Selen, Mysta5p: Fulgur3p: Kotoka1p: Axel, Amelia, Elira, Ike
>>48175483>debut 8 Holostars instead of EN3nah
>>48170322What do you mean by they. Mumei, gura, fauna, irys would never have cared if they were accessories. Only awkward thing at best would be a few of them would end up like marine and shion by playing too much into it and accidentally sleeping together.
>>48175514>>48175550>not knowing that tempus was a kamikaze move to kill both the stars brand and male en vtubing
>>48175544>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY82x: Hololive32x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER12x: Mori9x: Baelz, Gura, IRyS8x: Mumei, Ina7x: Amelia, Fauna, Kronii, Vox5x: Kiara4x: Mysta3x: Pomu, Shu, Selen1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)99p: Fauna82p: Ina79p: Mori78p: Mumei76p: Baelz74p: IRyS64p: Vox54p: Amelia48p: Mysta, Kiara47p: Kronii45p: Gura38p: Luca26p: Selen17p: Shu16p: Pomu11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny10p: Ike9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur8p: Finana7p: Regis, Elira6p: Rosemi, Ren5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina
>>48175379Lucky Star was a bigger deal than K-on flat out.
>>48175483Cover makes plenty of blunders and strategic misjudgments, they just make far fewer and far less severe than the competition.
>>48175581>Mumei, gura, fauna, irys would never have cared if they were accessoriesproblem is that their partners were the ones who cared about being accessories anon
>>48175591Based faago, he was right all along...
>>48175544Where's Luxiem 80k follow up stream? 10k? 5k?
>entirety of last thread was off-topic anime discussionI'm so glad you people have a containment thread.
>>48175700I'm sorry we had an actual good discussion for once in your homo thread, won't happen again
>>48175581Everyone eventually cares, because it's annoying to do your own content and constantly be pestered about another streamer. it just depends on how long it takes to get to someone. Every pairing has eventually run into this issue.
Continuing my Oshi no Ko rant the author unironically turned an anti-idol/entertainment industry narrative into a pro-unicorn one since the actual killer of Ai is her ex psychotic serial killer ex-boyfriend who dates female celebrities and kills them for fun.
>>48175581Fundamentally nobody wants to build their career around a duo if they can help it, because duos break up. You have to have a strong foundation in your solo content, and breaking up a pairing if you feel like it's starting to become the only thing people watch you for kinda makes sense
>>48175436As well as the college kids in "Tucker and Dale vs Evil"
>>48175629nah, it's just that they probably has the most overpowered fall back plan in the industry whenever they're relapsing to do their periodic strategic missteps: >The Hololive girls themselves
>>48175790How is that pro-unicorn?
>>48175790how do you be ex psychotic?
>>48175839Does anyone have the hololive edit?
>>48175544
>>48175857because the original plan was for the guy to be a regular obsessed fan but he changed the narrative for some reason
>>48175859You take your meds
Uwwaaaaaaahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDM2RnwlzI
>>48175514ceo pet project?
>>48175905Was going to post it but i missclicked
So, thread is back to slow and civilized (I think), here is a never before posted chart.This will be different because it is >ALL MEAT, NO BONEdesign specifically to smooth out any seasonal variation by making it a>365 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS chart.This should only leave variations for the real trend changes because, as the interval is as wide as a full year, seasonal variations, debuts, events and even CCVID should be averaged out by this wide range and big number of streams.Here is the first>Hololive (the japanese branch)There is not a lot to talk about it1) For most of the depicted period, it bounced above 9.3k and below 9.7k2) After mid July 2022, it SKYROCKETED, pretty much a straight line up allo the way into the current 11k average.11k average on a full year of streams is ***massive*** and the median is not trailing much lower.As an aside: this chart for Hololive is very flat for most of it's period, but don't let this fool you: this truly looks more like it is something unique to HololiveThis stability across the time than something that would be seen normally in this type of charts.
>>48175829>you live and die by your solo contentRetarded mentality, just be like Kanata>unironic leech>milk the shit out of your pairing>ship partner quits like a retard>double down as a unicorn magnetShe's bigger now than ever before
>>48175923That's not pro unicorn that's just bad writing
>>48175790>Continuing my Oshi no Ko rant the author unironically turned an anti-idol/entertainment industry narrative into a pro-unicorn oneMostly because people started digging and then airing out his dirty laundry like the scorned fan or wife one
>>48175923I could say it went from anti-unicorn to neutral, but that's not really pro-unicorn.
>>48175954So she got bigger by focusing on her solo content? Thus living and dying by it?
>>48175790What a cop-out
>>48175591It was so succesful it killed entire EN scene including HoloEN
>>48175859Typo>>48175857Because now you can argue Ai shouldn't have dated a fucking murderer instead of placing the blame on toxic idol culture causing a fan to murder her. It's a fucking evil boyfriend story now instead of Idol culture bad.
>Gonna miss entire Saturday and police thingy during itNo...Worth it for freeing up Sora's birthday
>>48175581>marine and shion by playing too much into it and accidentally sleeping togetheryou can't drop something that juicy and not elaborate
>>48175954So...by focusing on her own content?
>>48175790Wait did he really? Might be because people started digging around his past and found out his circumstances and people probably started making fun of him
>>48175923Are you saying the guy that actually killed her, is the father and not a fan that found out she is a whore?
>>48176044How new are you?
>>48176044Just google up the clip anon, it's all over youtube. even animated I think.
Fauna is a lazy fucking whore who hates her fans and would rather play dredge for the fifth time over something they'd actually be interested in.
>>48175954>Retarded mentality, just be like KanataThe bulk of Kanata massive incline in the past two months came from playing Dark Souls, Sekiro and now Shadow of Colossus.
>>48173868
>>48176064He went a little far in false flagging to paint unicorns in a bad light.
>>48176064no the obsesed fan thing was supposedly just a smokescreen so that the dad would not get implicated
>>48176064Yes. The father also dated another celebrity and killed her by pushing her off a mountain for ships and giggles.>>48176064
>>48176044I would make fun of you for being new but I also accept that so people got into vtubers after 2020 and maybe don't know very much about JP and also don't watch Holotalk.
>>48175790There is no pro unicorn anti unicorn propaganda here. The author is just a hack writing some murder mystery garbage with a horrible isekai slop thrown in there.
Kronii gave up on Minecraft after 2 weeks. I wonder what happened.
>>48176133>lazy>actually streams???
>>48175923Source for the original intend? Killer was reveled to be father immediately. That's why Aqua joined show biz in the first place.
>>48175790is this the persona 4 bad ending for the mc after the valentine events?
>>48175544>IRyS goldI'll take it
>>48176200no vesper in the server
>>48175629>>48175841Yeah, Tempus was clearly a calculated risk. If you count success as “making a profit and establishing a foothold” a la HoloID, then that part was guaranteed. The main risk was in pushing back EN3 and the general stagnation that would inevitably result from that sort of neglect.The “calculated” part is in figuring that fan backlash doesn’t matter in the long run and won’t matter once EN3 does debut.Although I suspect that this is the reasoning from the JP side. The HoloPro twitter account is clearly using this as an excuse to be homobeggars. Who knows if they’ll ignore the girls this much whenever EN3 does finally debut.
>>48176214What fucking streams
>>48176200>depression hortshe going through the high's and lows
>>48175382I'm just glad people are beginning to actively turn on that account on Twitter
bots
don't look kiara' numbersso this is the power of korean songs
>>48176244i need to find that articleoriginal story was supposed to be no isekai but a regular idol thing with her getting killed by a fan early on and children growing up to become idols and follow a fans perspective and development into a unicorn culminating in the kid getting killed the same way as her momit basically got the naruto treatment
>>48175790
>>48176200She's not a number hungry whore like Fauna is who is still streaming it anyway despite missing her "Minecraft Monday"
>>48176399Mostly the lows it would seem.She should buy a really nice car or something. Life is too short to be depressed when you make hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's for poorfags.
>>48176319The holopro account is going to be scrutinized as fuck to see if they mess up in promoting EN3 in lieu of the homos
>>48176319Backlash doesn't matter but people losing interest due to lack of streams does. Those people don't necessarily come back once they've broken the habit of watching vtubers. There was a point where we were only getting 1-2 streams per day. It's better now but there's still large sections of each day without streams often including NA primetime.
>>48176349You’re posting a schedule that has streams on it to argue your point. Are you retarded? I don’t even watch Fauna, and even I know that this is one of her lighter weeks. A week of four streams being one of her weeks where she takes it easy is not “what streams”.We’re not talking about Ina or Gura here. Maybe you should switch dealers, because you’ve got to do something about the impurities in your current meth stash, schizo.
>>48176349>posts list of streams almost every day>can't seem to find the streams on the listSir, before I make fun of you I need to ask if you're retarded. I don't like making fun of retarded people, only people who act like retards.
>>48176349They're right there. You realize this is also the week that Kiara, the power streamer of EN, has 4 streams for the week. She mentioned they're all busy with deadlines.
>>48176447U can't tell me what to do
>>48175947Dang. I can't believe they're still inclining.
>>48176473She can't, because kronies won't buy her merch
>>48176431that unironically mythic doing pr control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S0VxKQ0PGEJedi Fallen Order
>>48176431I feel like people are really underselling the "7 months"
Kiara is doing a great job at reminding everybody why she has the numbers she has
>>48176349She's streamed like 20 times over the last month. How is that "lazy," you retarded fuckwit?
>>48176604qrd?
>>48175947HoloX i kneel, have they refreshed semi-old fans and replaced old blood? after that the box just did it's work and snowballed.
>>48176586> ass crack 6am in the fucking morningdid Golden week already start?
>>48175947>As an aside: this chart for Hololive is very flat for most of it's period, but don't let this fool you: this truly looks more like it is something unique to HololiveHere is the same chart, but for HoloEN, to illustrate that point.The initial shape is predictable: there is no way HoloEN could possibly retain the massive heights of their 2020 heyday. The chart is not at the same Y-axis scale, but the point where their average drops below 10k in this chart is marked: Oct 25 2021.From that point, and up until February 2022 they dropped a couple more K on account of Council and IRyS not having the same initial lasting success as Myth had before, with Sana, Bae and then Fauna dragging their average down.Then from February to August it was six months of relative stability, dropping only 200 points out of their initial 8000.But from the end of August 2022 forward the branch trajector was>AAAAAAAHHHHHHH (pink Wojack) tier, dropping over 500 points in the next three months and then about that much more between then and now, going for a full 1k drop between mid July and the most recent number.There are a lot of theories for this>uncontrolled descent into terrainbut one thing is for sure: HoloEN needs desperatly to PULL UP and try to recover because this is the 365 days chart and which each month that passes the recent streams dominate more and more of this metric.
>>48176586I think Mr. Koro should rest and should sleep
Heya, /#/, come watch this 2view.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tUv8CPkZAY
>>48176446Well, good thing he changed story then. While isekai stuff is dumb I had fun reading manga.
>>48176399>>depression hortthat's kayfabe you idiot
>>48176431LMAOusing bots to damage control is retarded
>>48176200I think Mumei, Kronii and Irys decided to copy Gura and mentally check out. The thing is, they have 1/10th of Gura's pull so their inactivity is killing their channels.
>>48176431post the source retard>>48175109
>>48176646>Asked by the fans about her friendship with Ironlung>"Can you call someone who you haven't talked with for about 7 months as your friends?"
>>48176153>>48176161I need to go back and read it, because I remembered her saying that she knew him but I thought she was just lying.
>>48176604>7 months???????????????
>>48176349
>>48176646Silver said in response to people asking if she considered Mouse her friend that she doesn't feel like 7 months between interactions isn't conducive to a friendship
Is this the worst performing Karaoke in HoloEN's history?
>>48176667One day a graph that don't point the finger towards Tempus debut regarding HoloEN recline will be made, but this is not the day.
>>48176766ohhh this is getting juicy
>>48176539>Almost every day4/7 days isn't "every day".
Third in hours in EN this month and beats out a lot of JPs including Miko somehowTry another angle
>>48176431> would be interesting if anyone else leaves soonI remember the exact same dialogue happening when a certain someone left her company...
>>48176773see >>48176766 >>48176781
>>48176667>But from the end of August 2022 forward the branch trajector wasWasnt that true for almost all of the en sphere even fleshstreamers? i remember someone posting a chart on how there was a huge drop that started around june and july for both twitch and youtube and some people were theorizing that asia becoming less restrictive and removing their work and school from home policy affected that
>>48176791nijiseethe
>>48176431>>48176751Even talent agencies are doing bot psyops to manipulate public demand. Imagine how much better bot campaigns are from more sophisticated entities.We should all probably get off the internet before it's 90% bots trying to control the 10% of real human users
>>48176558No, she said SHE'S busy. Fauna has never mentioned at all ANYTHING about her deadlines, and she probably doesn't have any because she never does anything but stream. Except she's not even doing that now
curious
The only vtuber to appear in a mainstream anime and be the talk of the world. Kneel to Mem-Cho.
>>48176845Oh, so you're legit retarded. I'm sorry for your condition. You should probably have your caretaker block this place.
>>48176446https://soranews24.com/2019/09/29/narutos-author-kishimoto-reveals-what-characters-names-wouldve-been-if-editor-didnt-intervene/this?
>>48176791Is this one a rebroadcast?
>>48176884>Even talent agencies are doing bot psyops to manipulate public demand.Is that how we got Tempus by popular demand?
>>48176865Meant for >>48176349>>48176845>>48176906
>>48176766>Can you call someone who you haven't talked with for about 7 months as your friends?But that would mean I only have 2 friends...
>>48176940no...
>>48176865Wait, Festival is 2nd in hours streamed? What did she do this month? Was it VSaikyo?
>>48176791Probably, her max is usually 8k.
>>48175581There is no world where Gura could have been the accessory in her pairing, Mumei and Kronii are a lot closer number wise than GurAme ever were, IRyS ship is with the runtiest runt and Fauna has no ship to be an accessory. They never had a chance to be in that position so you can’t say Mumei would be fine with if every stream her chat was WHERE’S GURA, I’m leaving because Gura started, who cares about your solo plans play with Gura.
>>48176865Because she did one fucking endurance that boosted hours
>>48176945I meant to say public opinion, damn, that's pretty funny. I hope numbers-isms haven't slipped into my actual real-life vocabulary too.
>>48176604>>48176781that's weird because Silver appeared in Ironmouse's birthday stream 3 months ago...
>>48175497vsj is nowhere near powerful enough to be a foreign opium trader
>>48176865Kaela having 120 hours despite the fact that she was on break is just frightening.
EN3 is just around the corner
>>48176447Is that a Pajeet time zone?
You guys suck at understanding menheras, despite loving them.Mumei retweeted a fanart of herself with cat ears an hour before that tweet, thus that fanartist, in all her menhera wisdom, vowed to not draw dog ears on Mumei ever again.Try to think like your oshi, a menhera.
Watch Kiwawa you fucking faggots. You would cry too if Fauna got a sub 5k karaoke.
>>48177064
>>48177043silver was talking about actual interaction not company mandated ones anon
>>48176667Do an AmeSame chart
>>48177043When was the last time before that?
>>48175923The dad being the one behind the fan finding and killing Ai was something the MC thought since the start though
>>48176626I didn't even open the stream after seeing the KR in title and knowing her KPOP tastesWhat did she do?
>>48176960you talk to us everyday anon
>>48177043DELETE THISSILVER IS NOT A LIAR AAAAIIEEEEE
>>48176319Tempiss was anything but a calculated risk. Aside from their pitiful results, that we already discussed ad nauseam, we can speculate that Cover realized how much they fucked up and decided to backtrack>compare the Tempiss debuts with the Tempoop ones, you can clearly see how much the attitude of the EN girls changed towards them>Omegatranny was confirmed dead by Kiara in December despite the fact that he was there during the Tempiss debuts>A-chan taking over the HoloEN channel and even Yagoo attending to the meetings
>>48177057Let's be honest - Kaela's break is average EN normal week
>>48177064EN3 is a SWAT team-themed gen.
>>48176865Koyori falling off?
>>48176865>FaunaNo one can anyone deny that Fauna is the best EN vtuber
>>48177096Mumei is our oshi's wife not our oshi
>>48177099>You would cry too if Fauna got a sub 5k karaoke.>Fauna getting sub 5k from anything other than SC reading nowWe're dealing with numbers and schizo rrats here, anon. not pure delusion
>>48177135>Omegatranny was confirmed dead by Kiara in December despite the fact that he was there during the Tempiss debutsWhat'd she say about him?
>>48177043Doing a scripted interaction for work isn't the same as talking to each other.
>>48176064No but the dad told him her location and pushed him to do it
>>48176319>Tempus was clearly a calculated risk.
>>48176667Imagine how the NijiEN chart will look like.
>>48177064>everything in the EN sphere is currently a trashfire>yagoo releases EN3 like the descent of an angel to save people from the fireKINObut it's not happening
>>48177218Yea, that's what I remembered.
>>48177222>and boy are they bad at math.
>>48177222The risk was calculated, but damn we're bad at math
>>48175947>>48176667Here are both the charts for EN and JP, in the same scale and the same picture.If you split the difference in the 9.5k like it truly looks like the incline of one is the recline of the other, but given the differences in the markets, that doesn't look remotely possible and is clearly a spurious correlation.
Wtf I thought the eceleb Rust server was supposed to be a giga buff. Why isn't it working for Matsuri and Axel?
>>48176939theres another older one where naruto was just supposed to be a regular ninja that became strong due to hard work and powerups instead of ninja jesus. i remember it was around the time where people were still speculating on who Tobi was
>>48176865>Lap-chan in the top 10Schizos will NOT be happy
>>48176319>Yeah, Tempus was clearly a calculated risk.
>>48176667Post-Tempus was what made me finally unsub from the Hololive subreddit and made me consider migrating to small corpos. I’m not a unicorn—I’ve watched some male collabs and also a few Tempus solo streams. But even I only find them occasionally entertaining. I can’t maintain any more than tourist levels of interest.Unfortunately, it’s impossible to know for sure, but I really wonder what this graph would have looked like if they had either released EN3 first or released EN3 a couple months after. Would collab spamming to shill Tempus after EN3 debuted, for an average of 6 male collabers and 9 unicorn-friendly girls, have made a difference? Would it have blunted the post-debut incline (but still an incline)? Screwed over EN3? Would it have just been the four girls we have now since EN3 would have refused out of fear of killing their momentum?I honestly don’t know.
>>48177276>putting out a fire he himself causedGee, what a nice guy.
>>48177135I know the linkedin account a week ago was the definitive proof about the end of omegatranny, but what did kiara actually said back then?Also kek, sasuga our whistleblower chicken
>>48177297you argue that it's not even working for laplus and towa too, so just Hologirls in general. Meanwhile axel is a retarded RPR's lapdog throughout the entire sseason so it's given.
>>48177337Wait, what LinkedIn account? QRD and how does it apply?
>>48176431if Silver still considers Amelia a friend, does that mean they've talked within the past seven months?
>>48177117thats the story after the editor stufforiginal story supposedly had no isekai stuff around it and was supposed to be a regular unicorn cycle story
>>48177331Dang how did Yagoo cause vshojo to stop being friends? Mind control beams?
>>48177419Someone linked a linkedin account of the new Hololive EN head producer who's been on the role since december 2022
>>48176431vshojobots damage controlling...
>>48177423Yes
>>48177196I said that your oshi is a menhera
>>48176791Doesn’t Ame get similar numbers these days?
>>48177222I like how tally anon just switched back to just tallying the top 35 nijijp again in order to make them look stronger thinking that nobody would notice
>>48177473You mean someone now looking for work has "Hololive Head producer" listed on their resume?
>>48177291Can you do niji?
>>48177547Not looking for work, actually in the job since december 2022
>>48177099I don't want to watch Kiara though
>>48177540That's not the top 35, when that's the case it is indicated in the legend of the chart
>>48176865>pekora is going to have over 3M hours watched in april
>>48177547Cover lists their open positions on linkedin
>>48177099Sorry, I'm listening to actually good music rather than what she wants to singhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECkxzFgbJqQ
>>48177222
>>48177328>Post-Tempus was what made me finally unsub from the Hololive subreddit and made me consider migrating to small corpos.Honestly same for me but i came back to holo after i realized that the small corpos were also dumpstire fires of their own and were just basically just copying the big 2
Wait a second kiara is doing a KR karaoke in EU/NA hrs and she boot up Minecraft during SEA hrs...
>>48177593>Can you do niji?Niji dataset starts at July 2021 but yes, preparing for NIjiEN
>>48177594So that means that the old head producer quit, got fired, got shifted somewhere else (Tempus) or was never the person using the Omega account in the first place.
>>48177297It hasn't been a buff for anyone but the artists. Everyone else is taking a hit in viewers. I think some of the top fleshies are doing good but I don't know about their numbers. You got the usual king at the top and all the normal 10k plus but no one is really out performing expectations unless they're doing something other than play rust in the server.
>>48177423Wasn’t silver a mod on her rm stream that she did some months ago?
Silvervale is in EN3, Ame vouched for her.
>>48177209>>48177337I don't remember the exact words but Omegatranny was supposed to have his bday in December, someone asked Kiara about it and she hinted the guy is no more or in hibernation.Let's be honest, no matter how much Yagoo loves DA BOIZ, no company in the world will look at these results >>48177222 and tell you how much of a great job you're doing.
EN3 is abandoned ZE HAHAHAHA
>>48177661>SEA hrsYou mean JP hours, because JP members were who she's looking for. Somehow she picked the one day not a single one played the game lol
>>48176667I feel like a lot of responsibility recently will fall on Mori's shit internet lol
>>48176667>Council and IRyS not having the same initial lasting success as Myth had before
vshojo bros, what happened
>>48177698Which is why this part >>48177782 is interesting, because it's basically an actual 2+2=4 now.
>>48177782didnt jenma take over the head job?
>>48177827>SomehowLet's be serious, it's not first time it happened, for whatever reason she avoids playing Minecraft with JP holos
>>48177859Jenma is head talent manager
>>48177615not really he just switched back which is why that mysterious suddenly existcalled him out on this last year and the guy went back to listing everyone but now it seems he doesnt care if the info is correct or notHonestly not surprising since its the same guy who said that hololive going down 200 views was a recline but nijisanji going down 200 was just normal fluctuation
>>48177849
>>48177859No, that's head talent manager.
>>48177859Jenma is not the branch director/producer like Omega, she's just the head of all the girl's personal managers.
>>48177315>“Naruto’s Creator: ‘I’m going to give this badass character the name… Momotaro!’>Editor: ‘Let’s go with Zabuza instead.’>Naruto’s Creator: ‘I’m going to give this cool character the name… Kotaro!>Editor: ‘Let’s go with Gaara instead. Also, stop making Kakashi talk like an old man.>Yup, that’s right. Kishimoto originally wanted to name Zabuza, the Demon of the Hidden Mist with a huge sword, Momotaro. For those who don’t know, Momotaro is the name of the protagonist in the classic Japanese story Peach Boy, about a little boy named Momotaro who hatches from a peach and leaves home to beat up demons>Here’s the other changes suggested by the editor that were listed in the tweet:>Cutting out a ton of exposition.>Putting in Sasuke.>Making the Wave Country arc (with Zabuza/Haku).>Stopping him from making the hokage and teachers animals.>Having all the characters take the Chunin Exam all at once.>The models for Rock Lee and the other Chunin Exam characters.>Turning Naruto from a fox into a human.>Changing Zabuza’s partner Haku from a bear into a human.>Giving the protagonist narrow eyes and the rival wider eyes.>Having him make the names of jutsu consistent for worlbuilding’s sake, rather than random and all over the place.
>>48177849>Make friends with whoever you want.Ironlung certainly took advantage of the freedom to not do this.
>>48177829even un-mori'd un-kiara'd max power ina max power gura chart would show EN reclining
>>48177827I expanded to SEA to mirror her audience but yes she picked the day with 0 Minecraft Frames up, tragic
>>48177594I think Omegay got demoted to take charge Tempiss/Tempoop fully, there's a high chanche he is also the one behind holopro account twitter.The guy who take over in December 2022 is the new manager and get rushed to debut EN3. Yeah they started looking for EN3 around January after Tempoop announced and the reception are hostile towards them
>>48177859jenma is the head talent manageromega was originally the branch director then got demoted to producer and finally probably got put in the janitors closet
>>48177750no she's boring and rarely streams
Did Kson comment on it yet?
>>48177849she was advised not to play, she still could've played it but she chose not to.
I wonder how many talented people were snubbed because the abnormal wait time for en3
>>48175159Which is why the doujins usually have subaru taking control
>>48177963Of course it will, and it really shows that "hard working" aka spamming shit no people give a fuck is also damaging
>>48177849>>48177917oh the ironyyou can't make this shit uphackasaka aka should just look at vshojo for inspiration
>>48177859nah, i forgot who said it (kek probably Kiara) but apparently she's offered the job but declined it, because her current workload is heavy already.
>>48177998perfect fit then
Guys, I don't think we're getting EN3.
>>48177895>not really he just switched backYou are talking with the very anon making the charts. In no occasion the top 35 went into the charts unlabelled.
>>48177849All of silvervale's vshojo shilling and dexerto articles and stuff looks pretty stupid in retrospect.She was giggling, overjoyed, to get the fuck out of there on that stream last night, and yet a year ago they were the best company ever!!!! talent freedom!!!!!
>>48175343>>48175370who is this slut
>>48177859Omega was a Producer, whatever the fuck that means. Now that I think about it, I'm 90% sure that he was listed as such on this page https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/talents?gp=tag_office-staffAnyone who can verify?
>>48178118That was Gura in a members only
>sub 5k karaokeGraduate the shitbird
>>48178170>All of silvervale's vshojo shilling and dexerto articles and stuff looks pretty stupid in retrospect.That would make for an hilarious collage.
>>48178131Damn, you're smarter than I gave you credit for.
Look at my wife
>>48177926Thank god for this editor....
>>48177099>You would cry too if Fauna got a sub 5k karaoke.And I would watch Kiara is she wasn't an insufferable bitch
>>48178069She loses to most of her peers with those thingsActual power ranking is something like Korosan>Mio>Fubuki>Subaru>Okayu
>>48178170Didn't that retarded journo tattoo her on his arm or some shit like that?
>>48177926ill try and look for the older interviewit was basically said some retarded shit like uncontrolled george lucas tier stuff but it would have been better since naruto wouldnt have been ninja jesusIt would have been basically the same as with the inspiration which was ninku
>>48178296kek no wonder he's trying so hard to defend her back then
I know brazilians won't make a dent on the viewship but chinks bought my country and next week they will put the same chink censorship over the internetCan somebody tell me how the based chinksisters do to watch the forbidden videos like hololive on youtube?
>>48175947>>48176667>>48177291Here is NijiEN.Their 365 days chart peaked when Luxiem completed their 365 days after debut.Every day after that will have their strong streams from their heyday to fall out of range, and new weak streams from iLUNA and XSoleil era will enter the range.Not a good prospect, that's for sure.
>>48175343Another day, another HoloGoldFeels good to be a HoloChad
https://youtu.be/tB4NBiB8aF0?t=5481
>kpop karaoke>time in korea 5:47
>>48178334>next week they will put the same chink censorship over the internetLmao. every month the egg-head pulls this "we are going to censor the internet" bsNothing is going to happen
>>48177895Huh i actually noticed some kind of weird uptick in their charts also even though there was no corresponding thing when you look at their raw numbers.
KIARA ON THE CRIPPLE TALLY
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/silvervale-questions-friendship-with-ironmouse-following-vshojo-exit-2126213/
>>48177997But anons told me Omega is not real but an amalgamation of whoever operated the twitter account, and talents never referred to Omega as a real person.
>>48178285Okayu is a natural sub
>>48178329>>48177926Reminds me of the changes some editor recommended to a western serial for publication.Guess it's just an editor's job to make shit sellable, since that's why Nurutu is a gateway anime of the worst kind, and not something relatively obscure.
>>48178437kek, that Ducky fellow got fired from this publication, didn't he?
how come every "EN" vtuber is fucking asian or sea
>>48178170wasnt the dexerto article written and twisted by one of her superfan? would not surprise me if he twisted her words to make vshojo look good and shit on the other companies
>>48178436Why lie about this...
Kpop karaoke is a hint about the next gen btw. It's KR1, not EN3.
>>48178436faggot made me give her a view
>>48175954>unironic leechhow? Other holomem "leech" way more than she ever has>milk the shit out of your pairingby literally just being friends? No friends allowed in hololive I guess. If anything the pairing stunted her growth and just made her a sidepiece.None of that has to do with her recent growth considering that shit happened like 2 years ago. She's growing because of her game choice and really good 3d live concert she had that put some eyes on her. This is literally the definition of live and die by your solo content.
>>48178539They better open up some auditions then
>>48178415Anon... The squid is on it...
>>48178437What a shitty article
>>48178044>NG ni narimashitaI don't know how that meant>advised not to play it
>>48178201Checked the snapshots on WM and he's not there even on August 2022, so honestly i doubt it.For sure if you check IRyS' first MV his name is listed there as "Producer" though.
>>48178256Looks suspiciously similar to my wife.
>>48178454That was just homocope
Wait now I remember holopro twitter straight up announced they are actively searching Holostars new talents after Tempus2 debuted then the tweet got deleted and changed to they are actively recruiting both Hololive and Holostars EN.Did I get it right, they only actively search for EN3 around the end of January? this is actually more grim than I thought. So we won't get EN3 at least until October
>>48178437Archive at the current time.https://archive.is/x2xzkLet's see if the faggot edits something in or out in a while.
>>48178632>HolostarsGo back
>>48178505he left before that>>48178520yes
>>48178632It was when they were advertising ID auditions that they included EN/Tempus auditions
>>48178399>we're already this far into a downwards parabolaI can't imagine what this is going to look like after August this year.
>>48178632https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1624649502526144513
>>48175414
>>48177013Kronii completely outperformed mumei in the beginning and fauna tried to become an accessory at least twice. Bae gets more wife stuff than irys doesn’t seem to have any problems. I don’t know about Where’s Gura but the last one happens to every en in minecraft or rust like game. But i see your point it’s a skill issue small corpos and indies have to thrive on this or get no growth
>>48178632No. They actually put that weeks before tempus 2. The recruting both is another one in february
>>48178256what is it about AZKi's design that make her so beautiful? is it the lack of nose?
>>48178731Yeah this one, how long it takes to get new gen from the audition announcement? Especially for EN girls
>>48178817Perfect compatibility between body and soul
>>48178731No way in hell they didn't take a peek at those comments
>>48175640Bae didn’t seem to care, and mumei was the accessory but I see your point
>>48178559>not watching the graphs
>>481788595 months
>>48178731It seems like the one writing the tweet is a native Jap.
I just realize a terrifying possibility: Pekora become a collab/event host like Marine but even bigger and more oftenAre we actually ready for it?
>>48178868Perfect compatibility between the shape of her vagina and my dick
>>43913260
>>48178817Black hair with blue eyes is the preference of every man who's not a faggot (and also most faggots).
>>48175499>Not enough number? Time to make my own mini arc
>>48178454original omega was some jap that was there to train the en staff most likely that media and publicity guy yuki or whatever his name was that was in the document and like any jap liked lore shitomega en was the one in charge and got lucky that myth blew up which gave him more power and leeway which is why loreshit is more heavier in council than myth and revolves around the oc donutstealslowly lost his leeway and power with his retardation to the point that myth and council werent doing lore stuff anymore and kiara made fun of him and itprobably got his last chance with tempus which was probably wasnt that too well recieved considering they are a lot lower than their peers which was Luxiem but on par with Noctyx which means it wasnt a total failure but the recline in the branch after their debut might have played a part in jenmas promotion and his demotion to holoenpro producer/stars head and probably got regulated to just stars after their 3view recline
Reminder that Fauna and Mumei should move in together, and there are zero good reasons why they shouldn't
Are nijibronies pro holo now? At least the jp fans
>>48179055Has any employee been so openly hated by the talents like Omega in Cover's history?
>>48178329I remembered that when I was a wee lad I liked Ninku and Shadow Skill
>>48179055I won't read this post that fails to follow basic punctuation and capitalization rules.
>>48178768Are you fucking kidding me, so EN management only start their audition process in February 2023?
>>48178632anon that was a different tweet they were searching weeks before tempus 2 droppedI still believe it had something to do with that sudden change of policy back in september
>>48179061They both have pets, one is an old cat that needs special attention and the other is an obnoxious dog that need special attention. Fauna is messy and Mumei is not. They are both women.There's various reasons.
>>48178414It's the thought that counts.
>>48178256Wait did she commission the wallpapers to the artist? Because it just looks like attaching the model to the background.
>>48179073Nah, they will be back to their usual antics whenever they find something they can mass report
>>48179073i don't know, check /jp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3KeMNYdykhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3KeMNYdykhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU3KeMNYdykeasiest gold of her life
>>48175770That’s a top tier streamer issue that’s not a problem at all in jp. Ever notice the closer they are to being a shitter the easier it is for them to be ok with it. People make the excuse about myth being around the world but so is council and every en generation that’s debuted ever. They have no issue pushing unity because they will drown otherwise. Gura and Ina are the only members without an ego because being top or bottom doesn’t matter to them. Kiara and Mori are all about success and Ame wants to pass or fail on her terms despite being part of the most successful en branch ever.
>>48179237Artist drawings are gay shit, the cute message and image AZKi herself crafted is worth way more!
You guys were dead convinced Omega got fired before Tempus even debuted. The next time they use that account to tweet something are you gonna revise all this feverish headcanon again?
>>48178963anon its not really a surprise considering that they signed up for a different company even before they announced the graduationhell would not surprise me if mouse did the same thing by the end of the year
ok nips, why is Pekora so popular? Explain it to me
>>48179224>one is an old cat that needs special attentionAnon?
Is this lewd?
EN3 will have bunny cunny.
>>48179189That’s the implication of EN3 doesn’t debut in a month or so. But on the flip side, I’d they do debut soon then it means they’re trying to get EN4 ready asap
>>48179347...you think Snail doesn't need special attention? Did you miss ALL the stories?
>>48179175closet one would be subarus manager
>>48179360NOT ENOUGH! MOTTO MOTTO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xdBtV2ha9s Lacunny
Here is the number of gagged holo art I have in my folderAki 4Aloe 1Ame 18Ankimo 2Anya 4Aqua 30Ayame 17 (thanks draw anon)AZKi 2Bae 4Botan 28Choco 8Chloe 30Coco 13Echo 2Fauna 3Flare 7Fubuki 57Gura 34Haachama 13Iofi 1Ina 14Iroha 7IRyS 3Kaela 1Kanata 12Kiara 11Kobo 1Korone 15Koyori 5Kronii 12Lamy 30Laplus 14Lui 7Luna 11Marine 75Matsuri 24Mel 8Miko 8Mio 20Moona 6Mori 27Mumei 5Nene 6Noel 22Okayu 18Ollie 4Pekora 33Polka 4Reine 4Risu 6Rushia 22Sana 2Shion 14Sora 10Subaru 11Suisei 73Towa 12Watame 9Zeta 2Link to the folder.https://mega.nz/folder/5tg20KTR#tv_cJVAYWvlAmQkMCXE23g
>>48179345>Ok nipsWrong website
>>48178632>>48179189>>48179400stop with this rrat, auditions for HoloEN have been opened since December of 2021. Go attentionwhore elsewhere.
>>48179360Pero pero pero pero
kiara please get on the tally hjoly shit
ALL of Enna's graphs look like this when she streams in her usual hours.A peak in the beginning, then a huge downslide. You can SEE China going to sleep
>>48179175Open /hlg/ archives during Holocaust and and see that open love for Cover, bonus point if you find the moment when Subaru's and Korone's videos were being deleted.
>>48179345people say that she's the jp version of ishowspeed but the more closer one would be the jp version of ryansworld
>>48179175lamy's old manager
>>48179437Based lol
morning doghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S0VxKQ0PGEsngmi
>>48179496>AllWdym? I don't see multiple raids there
>>48179496>You can SEE China going to sleepNah thats just 80% of all nijien streamsMost of the people check the stream and then realize a couple of minutes in that its boring so they slowly bleed outSkill issue
>>48179517She literally exist before ishowspeed even make a YT account
>>48175947>>48176667I just inputted some of your numbers. A full data set would be nice. The "jitter" for HoloJP is getting more stable. The "jitter" for HoloEN is kind of a mess. Jitter means the rate at which acceleration changes. HoloEN is actually pretty volatile the past year and HoloJP's rate of acceleration is consistent.
>>48179345She's like a JP, non whore, non lazy version of Gura. Of course she'll get big numbers.
>>48179603not really since speed existed way back in 2016
>>48179631Gura and Pekora have different styles of streaming, don't be retarded
>>48175947>>48176667>>48177291>>48178399And here is Nijisanji (the japanese branch). They have the most lopsided median vs. true average curves and the likely explanation is that their CCV is MASSIVELY TOP HEAVY.The great majority of their streamers have low day to day streams but even once in a blue moon>debuts, 3D debuts and, most frequently, tournamentsthey manage to get one or two (comparatively) very big streams for each of their streamers, pushing their global average up without improving on their medians or the global one.
>>48179631>non whoreGura wasn't groped by an ojisan on stream.
Faufau doko?
Dog destroyed Kiara in seconds.
>>48178600It's just a Vcopejo excuse. They assumed since the company is so adamant about freedom(TM), then it must be "advice".
>Still posting "peak" charts even with Z and raidsWhy is chart anon a retard?
>>48179517Are you calling her black?
>>48178510Mori-whiteKiara-whiteGura-whiteFauna-whiteMumei-whiteIRyS-hafuAme-spic
>>48179710Soon..
>>48179686>different styles of streamingStreaming and not streaming?
>>48179765Kiara wishes she was white, kek.
>>48179496It's been a while since I see that kind of graph. Enna's graphs tend to have at least decent retention rate, even with some raids.
Here's the sad thing. En management believed they could catch lightning in a similar way to the nijien waves. The sad part is that the same management stubbornly refused to adjust their views for over a year. There isn't even an indication that they have adjusted and admitted fault, they rather seem to be doubling down. I don't even watch EN but I sorely hope that anyone involved in that decision is no longer with the company.
Top 10 of this Hour
>>48178510By "every "EN" vtuber", you mean NijiCN, right?
>>48179759no im calling her asian which is why she is the jp version of ryansworld and not ishowspeed
>>48177849Holy kek that last part.
>>48178880Of course they didn't. They've shown themselves to be tone deaf and have basically no awareness of the fan community.
>>48179600Doesn't happen to Fauna and she's a boring fucking whore
>>48179785
Oh hey, reddit got nuked. Might get more tourists
>>48179304Ina actively rejected ships, was the one to shut down the Mythkids trend and deliberately shut down any InaRyS ship before it could start.
>>48179809Anon what timeline are you in? Niji was the one who thought they could catch lightning in a bottle which is why they transformed niji india into nijien and then closed it and then debuted the holo rejects which were the loe wave
Did Gamma actually end up mogging Kiara last night?
>>48179908BASED BASED BASED
>48179631>48179785The VWhorejo subhuman comes back to cope about his whores leaving with retarded bait.
>>48178256Some day she'll learn about anti-aliasing, but it's not this month.
>>48179874That the thing anonNijien is just that boring and unentertaining compared to FaunaTheres a reason why majority of the nijien girls are holo rejects
>>48179908the lsf?
>>48179874
>>48179908You made me check the website and it's real.
>>48179621>I just inputted some of your numbers. A full data set would be nice.HoloEN: https://files.catbox.moe/ytx8l0.txtHoloJP: https://files.catbox.moe/hadp3a.txtTab separated, copy and paste on Excel>jitterFewer members and fewer streams would explain that, no? With a third of the streamers (now, a sixth when it was only Myth) and likely even less proportion of streams, any change in numbers by any of those would be much significant.
The Vshojo news came and gone like a wind..... nobody cares enough to keep talking about them
>>48179975Downsampling > AA
Actually talking about Ishowspeed its pretty weird that he suddenly fell off the face of the earth after they found a more controllable version of him with that other black guy kai
I thought you guys said global was a KFP hugbox? They're barely even discussing Kiara's stream
>>48180107bj stream let's gooooo
>>48180147It is
save her, Luca
>>48180147The fact that people even watch her in the first place or that KFP is even tolerated there makes it a hugbox, anon.
>>48179908Stop vagueposting, anon
Huh bae is back in japan
>>48179917Anon, stay focused. This has nothing to do with anycolors decisions, the current slow drain and prolonged death of HoloEN lies solely with the management decision to not debut HoloEN 3 and rather go for Tempus.That decision is pretty obvious that it was influenced by the success(temporary) of luxiem, i.e. trying to catch lightning.
>>48180073This really isn't the main place Vshojo fans hang out. Most people here watch either Japanese vtubers or vtubers belonging to their EN spinoffs. I would even say collectively the small EN corpos have more fans than Vshojo here. Also it's the fact that they aren't really ending the characters, it's just a change in association but they keep streaming and using the same models.
>>48180250they're just incredibly obnoxious most of the time, and people gave up trying to deal with them. which I think was the plan.
>>48180282slowchama...
>>48180147You made me check you retard. Literaly 90% of the thread is just about her karaoke. Why lie about stuff like this?
>>48180238Yeah, these are some fucking grim numbers. She could get 4k+ with no issues a couple of months ago. I guess Nina was right about her channel dying and being dead.
>He finally caught some (you)s
>>48179908It's now back.
>>48177291>but given the differences in the markets, that doesn't look remotely possible and is clearly a spurious correlation.Is it though? The number of foreign viewers in JP chats is noticably higher these days. A lot of former HoloEN fans are fleeing to HoloJP.It makes more sense when you realize only 30% of HoloENs viewership are native English speakers. The rest are a mix of Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese and various SEA countries. Demographics that clearly can and will just go back to watching JP if EN turns to shit.
>>48180049I need to do more analysis but yeah, members going in and out will change the rate of acceleration. I'm gonna do some wavelet filtering. These are very accurate in showing inflection points and discontinuities.
kek>hand to hand, holo to holoAs long as there is one JP girl streaming the box will be with them.Pekora to Luna to Korone to keep the top position of the hour for the whole japanese dead of night.
>>48180356Any post that starts with "I thought you guys said" is by definition a shitpost.
>>48180300Anon if they were trying to catch the lightning in the bottle that was luxiem that would require them to go back to china in the first placeIts pretty clear that tempus was nothing more than a failed expirement like xsoliel/iluna and the upcoming gamer wave
>>48180420You got any proof?
Holokek won't get EN3 this year lmao
>>48180421Notice that you will be doing said analysis on something that is already aggrevated, being the average (and the median) on a long period of time (365 days) and a big number of streams
>>48180443You put too much faith in Cover doing market research
Houkisei will be a mama for someone in EN3. Her H-cup Suisei will no longer be a dream.
>>48180420ever heard of language barriers
Didn't Vshojo get literal millions from investors some time ago? Where did that money go?
>>48180516and you put too much faith in suits not being retarded when it comes to correlationcome on now anon weve seen the same shit before like the sony leaks
>>48179790Then what is she, enlightened one?
>>48180528EN 3 is DOA anyway so why bother with them
>>48180073VShojo is not a cohesive project, it's an umbrella brand for loosely associated streamers. The model has its downsides and the fragmented and uncoordinated audience is one of them.
>>48180600talent freedom ads on shibuya station
>>48175414>36,399: Flare (Hololive)What went wrong with shiraken?
what's the last sub 5k holo karaoke?
>>48180600>new contractoof, expect more vshojoers to leave
The Subaru comment about swimsuits got clipped
>>48180443>would require them to go back to china in the first placeExactly, they didn't understand anything about what they were trying to emulate. And the real problem is that they didn't accept that it was a failure and just kept pushing.
>Tourney announced>People start to play Mario >Except the retarded EOP who decided to play the exact same shit as last week instead of training Fauna should drop out before Peko assigns people
>>48179874Hmm, maybe that means that you are wrong. Nah, can't be, you have an IQ of 145 after all.
>>48180624Isnt that the same with jp7?seems like cover smartened up and realized that the future is the id market and not the stagnant jp one or the dying en one
>>48180600investors want some return on investment
>>48180658here are the next ones
>>48180420>The number of foreign viewers in JP chats is noticably higher these daysIt's not noticeable. Quite the contrary, some Holos even lost their in stream TL and their usual clippers between 2021 and 2023. It seems the opposite, that they went full blown on the JP market and any EOP that wants in need to do both their language reps and their cultural reps too (see: Kanata recent variety show).>It makes more sense when you realize only 30% of HoloENs viewership are native English speakersI sincerely doubt it and would like to see some numbers backing this
>>48180476Right most pie chart.Blue is AmericaOrange is JapanGrey is TaiwanYellow is IndonesiaCanada is green with 3%
>>48180600Kson pocket. Shilling Vshojo isn't a charity.
>>48180147Other than the fact that the thread is extremely slow for karaoke standards, the thread still seems to be discussing her?
>>48180698Says the braindead retard who enjoys her boring garbage.
Will Vshojo make it to 2024?
>>48180715Miguel will finally be freed from the blacked company...
>>4818060090% unironically went to the backpack project and some probably went to ksons signing bonus
>>48180600She got a sweetheart deal (literally) from her boyfriend's company so Vshojo can't really compete with that.
>>48180698 (me)Ignore that I can't double-check my posts.
>>48180639forced group that no one really cares about save for two members at best and theyd do better in other groupings
>>48180420The number of foreign viewers in JP chats is noticably higher these days. A lot of former HoloEN fans are fleeing to HoloJP.No it isn't you fucking retard.https://holochatstats.info/langsum
>>48180574Yes? That's the point retardo. Most EN viewers already have a language barrier.
>>48180699ID is dead end too it's just EN 3 is going to be a complete flop
>>48180505Yeah, a day by day would show me everything to the extent a good extent. I figure this set won't show me anything but stable acceleration on the JP side.
>>48180660tempus
>>48180756yes
>>48180670Not really especially when you read that statement they released some time agoThey probably thought that the non mainland chinese market was the same as the mainland one and thought they could find success there
>>48180731This is specifically Gura, and specifically in 2021. We have no clue if her audience makeup applies to the rest of HoloEN, and we have no idea if these trends still hold up past HoloEN's reclining period
>>48180807JP is inclining too so a stable number of chats means that foreign viewership is increasing in absolute terms
>>48180731Proof that more EN speakers are in JP streams. A long time ago someone scraped the chats for language %, you'd need to do something like that.
>>48180901abayo nugget
>>48180660>what's the last sub 5k holo karaoke?Here are all HoloEN sub 5k streams with "karaoke" on title on vrabi's record.Most recent would be Kiara's christmas karaoke in February (rebroadcast)
>>48180824not really since cover invested in id more than the failures of jp and enthey know that the other markets are dead and stagnant
>>48180639Become a merch shill unit for CoverAlso their popularity is too unbalanced, Micomet being there prevent the rest of them from being in the spotlight, including the founder herself. Group like Bakatare is much better for Flare and Polka
>>48180953>Fauna literally worse than Kiara Kek
EN cope is off the charts today huh.
>>48180676Bro...it's the company tourney, not her, she only contribute the idea and they put her as the host
EN3 soon! Everyone in En rushing to secure their paypigs before they debut
>>48180953based failureslook how fauna has risen to the top now even with her shit singing
>>48180879Honestly we need a western business journalist having an interview with yagoo. That's the only way we'll get a real answer. Nip journos don't really ask the important questions.
>>48181016>Decided to permanently fuck over Ina and Fauna Holy fuck
>>48180963COVER invested a lot in Holostars too so your argument is invalid
>>48181032>>48181016wait is this a membership post or not?
>>48181032Does Ame even care about her paypigs?
>>48180430Rust numbers is grim
>>48181016>work on stuff behind the sceneshuh i kinda remember that last time she used that phrasing was near council debuts
>>48181016I'm glad Ame spends so much effort thinking about how to structure her streaming schedule and then just streams at random times between two different platforms anyway.
>>48181016>thanks for the feedback lolah, of course>amewaythe retard just doesn't want to commit, so it's "scheduled guerrilla" streams now
>>48180963>cover invested in idWhere is that investment then? One cafe?
>>48181097yes, that's why she made a member post, not like other chuubas...
>>48181032That or someone in myth/council is leaving soon. Now is the time to be active and lock down an upset leftovers.
>>48181016This "Ame Way" shit seems awful from an outsider perspective. Just another way for a lazy HoloEN to say "I doo what I want and if you don't like it get fucked". Terrible twitch streamer mentality that is doing more than any Homo collab is to ruin the branch.
IF HOLOEN GOES DOWN WE'RE TAKING THE LAST SAMURAIS WITH US BANZAAAAIIIIII
>>48181079at least it's official now kek
>>48180953>Half of them are KiaraYikes...
>>48181085pre ipo? yeahpost ipo? lol they wont get shit unless they hit their quota
>>48181016>AmeWay schedulekek>schedule for only Friday, Saturday and Sundayred flag 1>depending on my sleep schedulered flag 2>busy with watson family stuff, holo work and thinking about the futurered flag 3Ame audience has it rought
>>48180814are you equiparating learning japanese and english? you have to be trolling
>>48181079Ame will be buried by the girls that people want to watch. It's not 2020.
>>48181016graduation soon holobruhs
>>48180715Everyone has been saying Nyanners is the next to go, she doesn't really need vshojo and hell she could probably stop streaming and just become a housewife if she really wanted toHime isn't even a real streamer, she's just giguk's wife who wanted to stream as a hobby, doesn't make much sense for her to be in eitherNazuna everyone knows was a mistake to join. She would probably be more successful on youtube as michael cat exclusively.
>>48181097Not really.
>>48181016Ah of course, the infamous #AmeWay
>>48181016this sounds like soft-graduation teabros
>>48181194It's bad form all perspectives, the only ones okay with it are the domestically abused teammates
>>48181194It started as a rather funny goofy meme tho but devolved into this
>>48181210Kiara literally has the worst singing in EN, anon. Sure, Fauna and Ame might ""technically"" be worse, but at least they have bearable voices and good setlists. I'm not sure how Kiara even became the second or third most successful EN when it comes to music.
>>48181250Nobody is learning English to watch the lazy whores. So no. Anyone watching EN for funny noises will switch over to JP funny noises if EN doesn't deliver. Most EN viewers are asian. EN lost those viewers and so are in terminal recline. Pretty simple.
>>48181194tempus was actually a good excuse for a lot of teamates to stop having to deal with her schedules
What is "Watson Family stuff"? Stuff she makes for her audience ("family") or literal family?
>>48181158She saying “Ameway 2.0” at least. So she knows it needed an improvement over wat it was and how she was acting. Honestly after Kiara went on and said how she is Gura’s bf now, seems like Ame lost her way trying to saviourfag the homos….
>>48181016>scheduleit's gonna last three weeks
Well atleast Kiara got 5k.
>>48181355She tell her fan to loop her music, that’s it, it’s that easy
>>48181305I wonder if Nazuna has some fucky contract
>>48181305>VshojoJP goes back to being a one man group
>>48181355Because she actually releases music and encourages her fans to engage with it.
>>48181396are you retarded?
Is the connect the world concert gonna be recorded in japan or america?
>>48181097she doesn't even take supas
>>48181032What the hell are all these deadline for?
>>48181210Have you seen her set list?It’s literally 2000s white girl music and idol pop
>>48181079Neither of them are too affected by Ame overlaps
>>48181333>teammates are ok with ame streaming less>chumbuds are ok with gura streaming lessTHEY ARE
>>48181401>Honestly after Kiara went on and said how she is Gura’s bf nowWatson and Gura were never close. You're falling for shipping like Micomet fans who think Suisei is actually finger banging Miko on a daily basis.
>>48181097>ame >caring about paypigs or supas
>>48181406>>48181438What fans? She struggles to get 3k viewers on pretty much anything.
>>48181427When did she join again? Has it been a year?
>>48181079>ame having any effect on fauna or inarumao
>>48181480>>48175414
>>48175629They just need to protect HoloJP, if the other side branches fail it's not a big loss.
>guerrilla during weekdays>consistent timeslot on weekendsHow long will that last and how many guerrillas will she end up doing
>>48181482Connect the World and probably Holosummer
>>48181486>it's the music choice and not the unlikable streamer's faultweak cope
>>48181541July
>>48181016Why even bother asking for feedback if all that's left are just her yesmen after she hard filtered most of her audience?
>>48181573Why would they need to record shit at home for a concert.
>>48181561Would be pretty funny considering cover relies on their foreign fans for success since they basically dont have that much of a mindshare in japan according the recent surveys
>>48181482All the EN girls seem to have them so more than likely En Concert. If there is a EN con to go with it then it would make 100% sense.
>>48181550>>48175414
>>48181642>recent surveysPlease cite them
>>48181016>weekend schedule + weekday gorillasbetter information than whatever gura and mumei are doing
>>48181618probably merch shit and some stuff that needs their approval or input
>>48181085>>48181241I do wonder what the situation will be for the Stars and the future tempuke members. Hololive girls, regardless of branch will always be a success relative to the greater industry and to their most immediate competition (Niji). The males do not have that same luxury. Standardization of Merch for the homos is already a clear sign that someone sat Yagoo down and told him the reality of wasted opportunity cost. No way that the saviourfag Yagoo would allow DA BOIZ to be discriminated so something definitely went down behind the scenes for shit like quotas to actually become a thing.
>>48181598It's the song and dance. She pretends to open to criticism and her fans pretend that she doesn't warrant any.
it really takes a special talent to have an unarchived karaoke be sub 5k
>>48181598Because now she gets the answer she wants. The remaining yesmen can give the illusion she gives a shit about what her fans think.
>>48181652>>48175414
>>48181701dumpster dive a few threads back since it got posted
>>48176200She's just taking a break, she'll play Minecraft ahain when she no longer has indie games to play.
>>48181758the chuuba i follow only gets 34 ccv
>>48181741That much is obvious with how they hid the homos on the financial document
>>48176655That was supposed be to be En3 as well
>>48181758Noone likes Kpop. Its garbage
>Pekora solo GBF from a few months ago67k>Pekora + half of hololive + some Niji girls67kPekora unironically reclined
>>48181016I remember when she was the kaela of EN during her first month in 2020
>>48181741Probably some new hires to manage the stars around last december since the stars were doomposting about it back then.
>>48181758Same for sitting a whole thread constantly seething about some broad
>>4818164240% foreign fans with a large chuck of their profits coming from the USA.
EN3 ah ah ah
>>48181016>schedule that ""early"" in the dayi cant see it lasting she has horrible sleeping habits due to her very procrastination problems. She has several days she wakes up and its almost the fucking evening. >busy with family/offstream workyeah typical stuff shes talked about for ages already>thinking about the futureeither grimbro angle or just content ideas but honestly with her heart not being in the job for ages at this point im leaning grimbroshe needs to either figure out if she actually wants to be doing this or for someone to wrangle her and add structure to her life because she has none and it shows because she hasn't been able to add it herself.
>>48181909EN3 announcement this 4 btw
>>48181770>>48175414
Imagine being a fantasy RPG guild going to battle and your opponent is this
>>48180937Still absolutely wrong you fucking retard.
>>48181403Who the fuck schedules their Friday, Saturday and Sundays?*** Unless it is a part time job / side gig ***, wouldn't it make a whole more sense to schedule the weekdays and rest on the weekends?Also, all this blaming on "deadlines" reminds me of three things1) the "it's not always us" moment, with Kiara urging the girls to make a public commitment on holding to their end of the bargain >We need to improve ourselves, because if we don't why would other people improve themselves.and finishing their stuff on the deadlinehttps://streamable.com/rzax14to which the girls ALMOST commited to, but Ina interjected>it's not always us, sometimes it's themand it became a "blame the management"2) Kiara lamenting, at their off collab in Japan, that the girls had decided to blow a deadline for a recording and not even informing management about it, which she had to do3) Also Kiara mentioning that management used to not hold the girls to "deadlines" and "things are turned in even ten days late" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jXJgsGDwks&t=1005All of the EN girls are complaining about "deadlines" now and it's obvious why>old EN management got pushed away>JPs are managing things personally>they expect deadlines to be fulfilledSomething really changed with EN management, and more likely than not they're having the girls at very least to deliver on commitments they assumed
why is this thread talking about EN3 so much recently
>>48181758It takes a LOT of talent for an entire group of 30 vtubers to be sub 5k every other day.
>>48181936considering she has a members stream called "brainstorming" and three TBD streams I assume she ran out of ideas
>>48181962>>48175414
>>48181984>unironically relying on chat scrappers for the en languagepretty retarded since that scrapper thinks that lmao and lol are non english words
>>48176906Gura, Kronii, Ame and Kiara have talked about recording deadlines, any other girls?
>>48182014To keep the GRIM away
>>48181807Yagoo to investors: “Don’t ask me about Holostars, I won’t answer any questions” That alone showed that he was embarrassed to some extent.
>most of EN is going to stream very little once again to do shit we'll see months from nowi still can't believe management didn't have the foresight to see this and release EN3 sooner to alleviate the problem
>>48180639Started out as a group of friends messing around, ended up being a merch shilling unit. I enjoyed their contents a lot more back when it was just messing around in Minecraft, but recently all they talk about is 3D stuff like glamping and other shit. It's weird since I like every single member especially FlarePol, but I don't care for them as a group.
>>48181996perhaps old management had a lot of work for the girls but didn't send the papers, now they have less time to do it
>>48182014the more I talk about EN3 the faster a new nijiEN gen debuts
>>48182014>recently
>>48180749That just brings me closer to Iroha, so thanks for the compliment.
>>48182105old management was probably lax as fuck when it comes to commitments especially with the turn in 10 days late stuff
>>48182059Good thing that's a consistent behavior across the entire collection period and as a result doesn't introduce a bias on the time axis presented data. The scientific term would be "that calibrates out".
>>48182052>>48175414
>>48182105This is some very retarded assumption considering, in the first point, you can see clearly Kiara desperately trying to have the girls to make a public commitment and even Ina non committal response was not even>we are trying our bestbut>it is not ALWAYS us
>>48182014we're like three months away from two years without new EN holos, it's only getting worse
>>48182086The run up to Connect the World would be an awesome time for EN3 to really be hyping everything up with streams and talking about how they can't wait to join the next year. Instead we'll get a ton of dead hours while the existing talents prepare.
>>48180731>the majority of Gura's viewers are SEAmonkeysOh no no no
>>48182014What else is there to talk about with EN?
>>48182014If EN3 doesn't debut before summer the window closes until October, marking a 2 year gap without a new gen. At that point it's over, holoEN is officially dead and not in a "haha grim" kind of way.
>>48182108*NijiJPReminder that TWO NijiJP generations have released since the start of the year and they're about to get a THIRD soon.
>>48182170not really since the fact that it doesnt scrape lmao or lol is itself its own bias data which already taints the unreliable datanot to mention that some emojis for some retarded reason also gets registered as en
>>48181996I for one is glad that someone lit a fire under their ass for once
>>48176940Kiara just doesn't get tourists. The Minecraft collab is evidence that the problem is her, no other reason for the low numbers.
>>48180715So, hypothetically speaking, if Nyanners and Nazuna (Hime is irrelevant) decides to call it quits and pretty much kills VShoujo the brand since the'll pretty much be just IM and friends. How does that affect the twitch vtubing scene and the EN scene in general? I know that, even in it's weakened state, HoloEN is still king of the wasteland that is the EN vtuber scene but VShoujo is still a pillar of the community. If they were to die or even just be significantly crippled, does PC or even jewcorp try to encrouch on their territory? Does Mythic try to sell itself as VS 2.0 but "better"?
>>48182086The entire plan was to have Tempus fill that hole but it failed and backfired on them.
>>48182105>it's not always us, sometimes it's them
>>48182270Vshojo already was just IM when she leeches from connor, everyone else is irrelevant.
>>48182243>anon cant even read a simple pie chartkek euros are literally on the same iq level as sea
>>48182270>VShoujo is still a pillar of the community
>>48182161>old management was probably lax as fuckThey didn't care, they're salaried workers, they couldn't care less about the health of the branch.Succeed, fail, they get paid and if they get sacked, they have "worked for Cover managing Hololive" in their CV (formally or informally).From day zero in Hololive history, the responsibility to ensure their personal success and the one of their branch always fell on the back of the girls and it is no different in the EN side.In the end they can choose to wash their hands, disclaim "it's management to blame" and fail but, if that happens, there is no consolation prize.
>>48182306Pretty much this, if you for one second imagine the homos as hologirls they would be able to fill out the empty hours but no one wants them for obvious reasons
>>48182051im still a member for a few more days i wonder if i even bother to tune into it to see what shit even happens.
>>48182270>Vshojo is pillar ofStopped reading there, it is Iron Mouse who might be a pillar of EN Vtubing but the rest? Not so much
>>48181965I'd do my utmost best to overpower them so I could take them all as my wives and impregnate them all
>>48182306You would think that they would have a backup plan? As of right now they are just slowly losing EN viewers.
>>48182347the twitch scene, such as it is, still revolves around them to a fair extent
>>48182260And I'm sure you have data to present that suggests that Hololive is funnier in a time dependent manner that results in an increase/decrease of EOPs only posting lol, or do you just not like the conclusions that can be reached with this data which doesn't need to worry about small quibiles like that because of the massive number of data points sampled means that it's internally consistent to a very high level of precision which allows trends over time to be easily observable even if the absolute measure of accuracy might be poor which is meaningless when making internal comparisons?
>>48182270Vshojo hasnt been a "pillar" in the community since forever anon which is why they tried to branch out with otk/otv tt stuff and try to leech from them.They are especially not a pillar now that gunrun doesnt have the same pull as before with the new ceo which is probably one of the reasons why the vshojo girls jumped on mythic and ditched vshojo
>>48182467The backup was probably tempiss 2
I really don't understand people that assume EN viewers (who don't speak Japanese, nobody speaks fucking Japanese except truly dedicated rare weirdos) are watching tons of normal JP streams.They watch EVENTS. That percentage of EN viewers Cover was bragging about was the main channel, not like, random game streams for a normal Holo member.
>>48181194Twitch streamers have to try, most of the time
>>48176791It’s lack of streams guys that’s what’s killing kiara’s numbers
>>48182306>the girls are going to be really busy and stream less, what are we going to do>release a bunch of talentless faggots, they'll love it
>>48178437TO THE CATALOG
>>48182270>Does Mythic try to sell itself as VS 2.0 but "better"?Mythic only role is to put you in the same room as Weinstein, conduct your hands to firmly graps his hands, give him a firm handshake, look him in the eyes and say>I am here for the job, I'll be the next star in the vtuber world That's all they do, match make the latent with potential sponsors and content producers
>>48182306When you say that management really put a lot of safe guard for Tempus debit. They make sure they are there in place of EN3 for maximum spotlight, no new gen near them to maintain it and a myriads of reasons ready to justify their existence to everyone
>>48181355Kiara can do great on karaokes when she picks good songsAlas, rather than singing unusual or at least funny songs she sings kpop more often than not
>>48181846>niji whore debuffPekora actually inclined. Should've been an easy 150k if not for the leeches.
>>48182347Look at the state of the EN vtuber community and you’ll understand how unfortunately true that statement is.
>>48182519Their backup plan was more males in case the first set failed? That seems so stupid.
>>48182398>the responsibility to ensure their personal success and the one of their branch always fell on the back of the girlsnot really considering most of the major screwups for hololive that affected the girls were from management ranging from old stuff like mel and hitomi to new stuff like with haachamas college depression arc or with the failed streaming ban for stars
>>48182270PC lost one of their two talents that stream on twitch, they're mostly irrelevant in that scene. Idol doesn't really stream on twitch at all. The thing with Vshojo "graduations" is that the vtubers themselves are still there. It's much less of a change then someone completely redebuting as another character. If Vshojo completely breaks up or just becomes Ironmouse and friends I don't think it changes much. Successful indies like Shylily will keep doing their thing. As far as Mythic goes, it's a general streamer talent agency, vtubing is just a part of their portfolio. They could try to get all the successful vtubers under representation but it will never be a coherent vtuber "brand".
>>48182190>>48175414
>>48182551Noooooooo anon, you don't understand, muh cute noises, just do your reps for half a decade, it's so worth it!!!
>>48182270Huh.I was going to post about how Nyanners and Vei's numbers are already low and it's all in IM, but they have decent hours for Q1.Forgot Veibae was still doing endurance gaming before her month long break and Nyanners came back to streaming (partially irl).They both had more streams than the undisputed CCV ruler of Twitch - Ine.Zen is doing great hours as always, but the brand was carried by those 3.
>>48182487Sounds like EN cope to me.
>>48182570>>48182270>Does Mythic try to sell itself as VS 2.0 but "better"?No but it's effectively what they are.
>>48182243Isn't this chart like two years old?
>>48182629It makes sense if you are retarded and actually believe that people want the homos
>>48182429>Imagine if boys are girlsEN management is a bunch of troons. Also fuck Yagoo for being such a faggot.
>>48182487Your data is as good as my data anon which tells a lot about the data that got collected.
>>48181965I wouldn't last even a single minute before coming
>>48176960You are conflating men and women. Remember ywnbaw. I have friends I don’t ever speak to but I can send a message right now asking when they’d be free for a drink
>>48182588And this was during Sana’s graduation week when maximum eyes were on the branch. Even the homos were like “yo, can we delay it? We don’t want to debut right during a graduation”.
>>48182519jesas
>>48179765by "hafu" Irys's parents are both asian right? Not sure where her father is from
>>48182650>>48175414
>>48182629What made you think that smart people were making smart decisions?
>>48177008Kiara hasn't gotten anywhere close to 8k on any of her karaokes in the past year or so.
>>48182347>>48182463It's unfortunate but that's kind of the reality of it with how much they sold themselves as the "anti hololive" corpo. It doesn't help that they're the top "EN" vtuber group on twitch (we all know isegye mogs them but they're technically focused in KR). VS is pretty much the go to model for people who want to advertise themselves as "not hololive" vtubers and we all know there are a shit ton of vtubers like that on twitch because of them. Hololive's walled garden might be a sanctuary for CGDCT but the vtuber world outside is anything but.
>>48177750>Silvervale name drops Hololive and shits on them and all other corpos. >She'll be in EN3 DYRBI?
>>48182629You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge success and then started bleeding heavily after they collab spammed with Holo.
>>48182559>he thinks that the decision to release more tempus members came from en and not from the top of the jap managementanon have you never worked before? its impossible for middle management to decide on new hires without the consent of the top echelons
>>48182551For whatever reason a lot of this thread seems to assume that the average stream watcher's tastes are exactly like their own.
I can just imagine how EN worked in the past>Management sends them orders for recordings>They all deliver them on time>Management ghosts them about the project that never gets worked on>Eventually they just give up
>>48182811>>You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge successehhhhhhhhhh
>>48182811funny guy
>>48182869You can keep imagining
>>48182588>>48182716>SafeguardsI didn't realize that until you pointed that out. Holy shit this is such an embarrassment even after all those preferential treatments.
>>48182570>That's all they do, match make the latent with potential sponsors and content producersNot really since they also provide the same shit as vshojo like legal shit and connections for merch suppliersThey are basically vshojo but with bigger clout and more soft power
>>48182519Nah. That was part of first plan. They scraped backup plan in first week after Tempus debut, because they believed they succeeded.
>>48182869You missed the part where they stopped the girls from streaming, apply yourself anon
>>48182869>They all deliver them on timeKiara already blew the whistle on that and said Mori delivers her recordings over a month late. No reason to think Gura or Ina are on top of their work behind the scenes when they clearly can't manage their schedule in front of the camera.EN management might be bad but that doesn't mean the EN girls aren't lazy as fuck
>>48182836i'm just gonna copypaste an old postSure, but I would expect the CEO to have the final choice only after someone else made some kind of analysis and report of the situation and proposed a few options to him and others at upper management. And since we're talking about the EN branch, I would assume this analysis and report was done by the people in charge of the EN branch who, seeing Luxiem's (temporary) success, decided it was a great idea to change the winning formula they had for a jump in the dark.
>>48182850The angle is to shit on the EN branch.Cover has said the EN market is very profitable and important. If the EN market also watches predominately HoloEN, that means HoloEN is very profitable and important. Several posting "factions" really hate that idea, ergo they constantly have to push that EOPs all over the USA are watching random JP streams for hours in a language they don't speak that all start at like 2-5 AM local time, rather than the obvious explanation.
>>48182551I don't understand why people that don't watch JP holos assume that noone else does itEvery time JP holos call out for EN viewers they get tons of replies even in middle of bog-standard stream
>>48182811>You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge successNot really since they never reached luxiem success but only reached mid noctyx level before bleeding
>>48182744When he was on her stream people were saying he sounded Malaysian or something like that. The mom is presumably JP.
>>48182693Ah yes, all those graphs you posted. Sure are convincing. You're welcome to scrape the data yourself and normalize to the number of Kusas to try and remove any time dependent humor level effects, but until then the charts pretty clearly show that the internally consistent metric of EOP posting has not shown any increase despite the incline of the JP branch.
>>48182494I think that's just something that's happened recently (within a year at least). There's definitely a burgeoning power vacuum in the en scene that's starting to surface. If VSHoujo falls, then some corpo is gonna try to takeover the top twitch vtuber group spot.
>>48182811>You have to remember that Tempus was initially a huge successlmao
>>48182588I feel like someone put a lot of effort into convincing the higher ups that the dudes were in high demand because no way in fucking hell that they don't know the disparity between JPhomos and the JPholos and would go so far as to sacrifice the holos for some homos over in JP
>>48177650Same but there’s 1 i ended up liking and another i sometimes watch. I ended up unsubbing from half of en and maybe jp if they keep pushing it. I just start to care less and less
>>48182904They literally probably even have damage control measures ready in case they actually failed (not that they will ever admit they failed tho)Everything was done to make sure Tempus at least isn’t failure compare to Niji
>>48182904They’d probably still be above the JP homos if not for the wave of cross-gender collabs, Vesper’s suspension, and a second helping of Tempus. Those three things have irreparably damaged the EN homo brand.
>>48182551Watch Koyori. Very enjoyable with minimal JP knowledge and you'll learn the language as you watch. There's no reason to keep watching EN slop, and pretty much nobody does these days except a handful of autists who are dead set on watching English only streamers because they refuse to do their reps.
>>48182811even Vespers initial performance is way overstated
Kson's silence is deafening.
>>48178066Fit is more important than talent. Kawaii 3rd gen is a cautionary tale on why you should never prioritize talent.
>>48183073Except they prevent Holos from streaming during Holostars events, and also make them wait in line at the studio for Holostars projects.
>>48183073My post actually imply the opposite. They knew that Tempus failing is a possibility and that’s why they have so many safeguard for their debut to avoid it as well as all sort of PR
>>48182811>Tempus was initially a huge success
>>48180505>>48180829Yeah, there is a massive inflection point around August. Now that I think of it wavelets are robust enough to detect something event though it is a running average of 365 samples. Too lazy to put dates.
>>48183175Yes but it doesn't explain why they took en3's spot
>>48182981>Sure, but I would expect the CEO to have the final choice only after someone else made some kind of analysisNot really especially when this is a jap company with 2 big problemsfirst thinking that they are still a small company and second being a jap company with an en branch its the same problem toyota, sony, mitsubishi, nintendo etc has when they first expanded to america and that was to halfhartedly apply jap values while at the same time try to combine it with western ones which usually results in disaster.
>>48182984>EOPs all over the USA are watching random JP streams for hours in a language they don't speak that all start at like 2-5 AM local timeNobody said that. The EN viewership is only 30% American in the first place. EN are losing the asian viewerbase to JP. Americucks are of course unfortunately stuck with their lazy whores but nobody else is and when 70% of your viewers can skip out and watch superior JP content instead it's obvious what will happen.
>>48178044When did nazuna ever listen to advice?
>>48183143?She was busy making out with her new girlfriend for 3 and a half hourshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7bjDDPUL94
>>48178131They put out a reminder about auditions. It will happen at some point.
>>48183007anon considering how tainted the data is my graph would be as good as yours even if i made it with ms paint
>>48183143Are you blind? Yeah, it doesn't mean jack but she did comment on it.https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1651106146479132675
>>48181846>numbernigger>can't count>retarded takepottery
>>48182880>>48182893>>48183046I mean half was above 5k and the other half above 1k. At the time they were the most successful star unit then collabs and part 2 crashed them to jp level.
>>48183143If you were her what would you even say? Yes she often talks when she herself has nothing meaningful to say so it wouldn't be out of character to just make pointless vague statements, but it's better if she doesn't. It's none of her business really. Just say "im sad they're leaving but we'll still be friends" and leave it at that.
>>48176349Oh boy more Minecraft and ASMR shit. Fauna is the laziest EN with the worst content.
>>48183138Koyo can be enjoyed even without JP.
>>48183328>>I mean half was above 5kuh maybe for a few weeks at best
>>48181996I really like you leaving out the part where “blowing off” was “we need all 5 of us to do it, Kiara is out with NijiEN and we’re not waiting until whenever she gets back and recording at 1am we’ll do it tomorrow”.
>>48183119>he thinks its just the en homos that have been damagedanon a few weeks after tempus 2 debuted they had to ramp up trying to get more new members since their top paypigs were now spread too thin
>>48181846>Pekora vs Pekora
>>48183266Who is this bitch she always collabs with?
>>48183300Id be depressed if that was actually the EN3 audition reminder since it means they seriously haven’t thought about debuting girls in 2 years.
>>48182811They were just drawing tourists from the existing holobox. Tempus barely brought in any new viewers.
>>48183244>He thinks all of Asia speaks Japanese
>>48182981I don't really see EN management having that much of a say in things. At the end of the day the decisions come from Yagoo and his inner circle at headquarters. They might get some reports from EN management but probably not enough to sway things that are planned at least 2 years in advanced.
>>48183391I was speaking under the assumption that the JP homos are already a lost cause and that any extra damage is overkill.
>>48177963>>48178072No it would show that the branch damage was done by homos like I keep saying
Oh, time for the East to wake up. I'm off to bed before they spam/doxx/bait, or whatever brings them joy.
>>48183380Week 1 - “HOLY SHIT YAGOO, WE STRUCK GOLD! LETS RAMP UP THE SECOND GEN!”Yagoo: I’m magging!
>>48183328post graphs or fuck off, sis
>>48183220So they can took EN3 hype for themselves duh?
It's going to be really interesting to hear if one of the girls in en3 slips up about when she sent in her audition
>>48183435Does it really matter if they "thought about it" for 2 years and did nothing with it? All that matters is when they actually debut.
>>48183464>He thinks all of Asia speaks EnglishGoing from understanding 50% of a stream in English to 50% of a stream in Japanese is really not a big deal
>>48183390>waiting until whenever she gets back and recording at 1am we’ll do it tomorrow”.Then someone besides Kiara should have told management it was delayed, before going to bed.
>>48183509jp homos got even more kill anon
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>>48175790not exactly pro unicorn but , he just jumped the shark when backpedaled the most spicy thing what a coward
>>48182986Sure they do, but that doesn't mean that the EN market mostly watches JPs.ENs get tons of JP responses when they speak Japanese. We're talking about thousands of people here, a small percentage can flood a chat when they're all prompted to speak in a distinct way at once.
>>48183568I dare Yagoo to release another Homo gen seeing how Tempus 2 is doing these days
>>48183580see>>48175978
>>48182973>Kiara saidYou going to bother posting any kind of proof?
The fact the Oshi no Ko author is on the Rust server interacting with Matsuri and Laplus is hilarious to me
>>48183600>mixed gen will fix EN woes!
>>48183600are you implying releasing Tempoop was justified?
>>48183390They had a planned time to record and Kiara went back home before that time to make it in time.This is like making plans and meeting up with a friend at 3pm, you show up and they cancelled without telling you.
>en3its been 9 months since Tempus bros, 9 months of guessing EN3 for sure, EN3 soon, EN3 tomorrow.
>>48183304>internally consistent data can't be used because Anon disagrees with the definition of what an English post should beQuick, anon. Does posting "waifu" count as EoP or JoP? How about "seiso", "Idol", or "Live"? I pray to god that you never get to actually work in a scientific field, since I would have to murder you for not understanding how data collection works and the usefulness of internally consistent measurements.
Myth's status>Depression and burn out again>Went schizo and streams sometimes>Is stable for now>Grim numbers doing everything to recover her numbers>Ceiling and her floor is exactly the samecan EN3 fix this?
5k dorya
>>48182744She is half Japanese. That's what halfu means
This Shiranui series is pretty cute...
>>48183685Nah kiara arrived a bit later than expected
>>48183652laplus already left retard, make better baits next time
>>48179463>>48178731Retard homobeggar
>>48183380The collabs happened pretty quickly because of "popluar demand". That was really the start of their fall from grace.
>sisters are using debut buffs to claim Tempiss was succesfuleven xsoleil/iluna got decent numbers the first couple weeks
>>48181878it's not like niji doesn't rely on foreign fans from China and SEA
>>48183686Well management did try to justify itI merely want to see the homo stretching their audience even harder
>>48183468I can totally see EN management doing their best to make the worst of corporate’s awful decision, though. I can’t imagine JP is telling them to use the social media accounts to shill the males and ignore Gura.I wouldn’t be surprised if JP said, “Hey, some of the girls want to do male collabs, right? Maybe encourage them to plan some of the content they want to do since we want to shill them anyway.”And EN management going, “Great, we wanted to get rid of those nasty incels anyway. Let’s provoke them and sic homobeggars and change the culture.” Because if someone’s been in the business world long enough to be hired as management for EN, do you really think they watch vtubers enough to get that seething over Tempus2 is not automatically sign of unicorn behavior?
>>48183550My honest guess is that EN3 just had actual delays. Lui's mama explained that these things are planned way in advanced. He thought he was going to be a mama right out the gate but it took over a fucking year to even get something done. I see people blaming Tempus but that shit was probably planned out since Covers venture into the EN market way back in 2020.
>>48183694Kiara 5k broRip Avicii.
>>48183694We were speculating about EN3 long before Tempus. Back then it was with joy.
>>48183716>only my specific data is valid all other data is notpeople like you are the reason why the scientific community is getting shit like the replication crisis
It's so funny that's the are so many big time yabs happening that are chock full of drama and all you guys want to discuss is Tempus, who aren't even doing anything to warrant this general's animosity.
>>48183780>wanna really stick it to the homos anon? you just have to push for another homo gen lmao
>>48183804i remember earliest speculations with any weight were June and July.
>>48183558The whole world speaks English, it's the international standard language of commerce, science, diplomacy, travel, etc. etc. etc.Anyone college educated needs at least some English. Who the heck needs to learn Japanese, a language from a shrinking and very insular country? It's only useful if you want to do business with autistic zaibatsu dinosaurs or watch anime.
>>48183328This is basically saying holoX was a huge success because Chloe was getting 90k gaming streams
>>48183724EN3 can't help Mori, Ame, or Kiara. They have their own issues. Ina and Gura are fine they just need to stream.
>>48183411some gravure idol i think, i dont know i just went to her insta and found lot of tits
>>48183468Some of this thread can't bear the thought that JPs can make mistakes so they've decided that EN management has an absurd amount of power to make decisions on their own.
>>48183789>>48183725>Struggling to break 5k on an unarchived karaokeGrim.
>>48183300EN3 would've debuted already if Cover wanted it. People say all kinds of things about the scarcity of suitable applicants, but it's not THAT strict. EN3, contrary to what this thread thinks, doesn't need to be a hit on its first day, or even on its first YEAR. New talents are long term investments and sometimes the most unexpected people incline ahead of everyone else. HoloEN's main hiring issue is that most people who know it exists and has open auditions are the male viewers.
I remember last year Golden Week we were cheering for Pekora to beat company event with her own. She wasn’t in the company tourney last yearShe beat it so hard they just let her host it this year
>>48183755>get called out for his retarded rrat>h-homobeggargo back
>>48176349>Using Minecraft as a crutch to pump up her numbersThe sad state of Sapkeks
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>>48183767I remember some anon saying that the collabs would be the start of tempus recline since most of their audience were homobeggars and collab tourists and some people said that thats impossibleTurns out the guy was right in the end
>>48183785Jokes on you anon, they hired in California. The removal of undesirable males is the goal itself
>>48183773>what is sarcasm?
>>48183838>so many big time yabs happening that are chock full of dramaHolo or Niji? If not I don't care
>>48183724Yes. It can hide it by bringing out new girls and streams to hide Myth’s underperformance. The “stop asking for EN3 because you want shiny new toys” cope from homobeggars elides the fact that the “toys” we currently have aren’t just old, some of them are broken.
>>48183849Tempus got the most widely speculated "EN3" debut spot. 11 Months from Council's debut, just like Council was 11 months from Myth's debut.
>>48183931that anon khs waiting for EN3 to drop Kronii...
>>48183843that would probably push either aruran or astel to schizo territory kek
>>48183967Well, by the looks of it Gundou is probably going to be terminated too but that's just a rrat.
>>48183468Yeah, until the day that they create actual subsidiaries in the US and Indonesia for EN and ID, all their staff and management are going to be at Cover HQ in Japan. And that means they are not as far removed from upper management and Yagoo as people like to think.
>>48181936Just bears repeating, but these are obvious signs of long-term burnout
>>48183773Also, no, xsoleil/iluna numbers were shit right off the bat.Even the Scarle lewds numbers plummeted immediately after debut.
>>48183838The very concept of tempus and its implication for en3 is the biggest yab in the english branch
>>48183838They're existing, when EN3 isn't, and nobody can or will ever forgive them for that
>>48183244This idea that EN only has 30% of an NA fanbase is based on one chart for one member that is several years old. I seriously doubt that Cover would be putting on an EN concert in America if only a little more than a quarter of the branch's viewer were there.
>>48183944>anon doesnt know anon the ones left in commiefornia are the rural onesmost city slickers have moved to texas and florida
>>48183892Literally everyone in the vtubing and anime-adjacent community knows what it is and that they have open auditions, at least anyone with any remote interest in being a vtuber.
>>48183838>yuri was literally who'd by phasefags since forever>alpha whore who'll give up on vtubing and another one unironically who'd by her own companyi just like watching them implode desu, the catbox clips were juicy. is silver's VOD still up?
>>48184013Is there anything actually saying that Anykara has to announce talent terminations?
>>48183328At the risk of being called a homobeggar, I'll admit that the first 3 weeks of Tempus and /mans/ was magical. They were never gonna be as succesful as Luxiem but they definitely were not failures like how lolisex and iluna were. Had they stayed in their lane like many hoped they would with the occasional collabs with Mori and Bae, I think shit would have been fine and they would be considered as a success. However, Ame and Kronii's retardation, the brotuber mask falling off them, management's (both EN and JP) very obvious push of the homos to even the detriment of the girls (lack of EN3, the no overlap rule, the active push of the homos even in what used to be Holo exclusive events) really soured people on them and the brand in general. They stopped being the underdogs that you kinda rooted for to succeed at a distance and became that annoying retard cousin that you had to deal with using kid gloves. I honestly think that Cover trying to rebrand the stars with Tempus and Uproar was a good idea but they didn't go far enough with it. It would've been better for them to have started from scratch as a seperate group with absolutely no affiliation with the Hololive brand and the stigma that came with it (male idols in a company whose star attraction are females)
I really hope Ame gets her shit together and keeps this schedule at the very least.
>>48183993What if EN3 comes out 11 months from Tempus debut so around June? or 11 months from Tempus2 debut, so like November
>>48183786>Lui's mamaHe made another design for Cover before he even made Lui. That's probably the "right of the gate" part
remember this?https://vocaroo.com/1eirfFSVTmaq
>>48183244The americucks that actually pays what they support is showed in the report, unlike SEA poors can only watch and do nothing financially but claim they are relevant lol
>>48183785I just don't see the whole shock people have that a business is trying to shill there least desirable thing to people ie Tempus. Gura does well on her own. She can get away with a 3 month break and come back just fine.
>>48184080Not really since they have a precedent with Tsumugu so they can just put gundou in "eternal hiatus"https://www.youtube.com/@user-hk5qj2kc4x/streams
>>48183834Once again, you have taken offense to the methodology without presenting any differing data despite claiming to and when pressed you go into a retarded spiel about making in MSpaint because you have a solely unfounded belief it's wrong, nor am I claiming it to be an accurate measure of EoP posting rate but merely precise. You are the reason that the replication crisis exists, because you are unable to look further past the graph labels made for drooling retards like yourself, to the stated methodology and then generalize the results to be exactly what you want in your head instead of what is stated to be measured.
>>48184067>floridatry colorado