/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ironcuck

love my wolf wife

Vei response was understandable

Just heard the vei and silver news.
I'm leaving vsj as well. This will be my last post here.
Love you vsj bros. Peace.

I CANT TAKE IT ANNNYYYMOOORRREEEEE

>>48178687
tabs

finally the trash is out. what a great day and good riddance

consensual nonconsensual sex with pink cat

>the two bitches gate keeping her are out
Webm related is definitely in now right?

>>48178687
tabs

>you got a 50 dollar dono?
>Remember the 30% backbag cut!

>vei leaves cause of money but moves to one of the most expensive cities in the US

>>48178712
ANON NOOO WHO IS GONNA TELL ME FUCK YOU IN THE DAILY

>>48178696
makes sense that she wanted to distance herself from the shit silver just spouted, ironic how vei ended up the more level headed one

>>48178687
your trailer whore isn't welcome here

You know what? Fuck you. This thread won't be any better, it'll just continue being a shitstorm of tourists and arguing. There is no "Surely this thread will be better" this time.

>>48178643
Whats worse? Silvers comment meaning Connor and mouse are dating, or it meaning Connor has a GF it just isn't mouse?

>>48178793
This is not hololive kid.

>>48178778
That's a gif and she's Mythic exclusive for a year.

>mouse larped here atleast twice based on her streams.
>vei talked about it, even if pen made the tweet she atleast reads it herself and gives approval.
>groomergator talks about us.
>mizkif gave us a shoutout.

We are not that powerful.............

>>48178773
nonconsensual consensual sex with pink cat

Wonder how long till the threads become comfy again.

>>48178794
All the more reason to leave if it didn’t make any financial sense to stay on because of a bad contract

>>48178712
Fuck you

After AX Vshojo better pop off with some shit because the it'll be really over

>>48178687
your wife is even more of a bitch than vei, consider this like an achievement

silver lashed out at everyone and made a big mess like she fucking always does? wow i'm shocked

IronRAT getting exposed once again is nice

>>48178750
>nyan pic
my retard in christ, pink cat is literally next

>>48178886
about a week depending on what Vei and Silver say on their first indie stream

I like that nobody's mad at Vei cause she handled things a hundred times better.

Official Silvervale theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEjFd20CJIk

A look at the Vshojo contract signing process.

>>48178886
Since Vei is acting reasonable, it'll burn out unless Silver or Mouse add more fuel.

>>48178967
What’s VSW again?

so outside of this thread and board nobody is having meltdown about them leaving
did mousefriends lie to me about Silver being public enemy #1 now

>>48178967
>vei
>leaves amicably and doesn't burn bridges
>silver
>leaves with nothing good to say

i wonder how long the rest of the vshojo girls were wishing she'd leave

>>48178696
Her reasoning was way more reasonable and impersonal than Silver's. Silver was so ready to soak in the drama she set up her stream like a press conference and laughed while throwing other members under the bus

>>48178967
I'm only skimming the tweets, but it looks like people are more fighting over whether Mouse or Silver was in the wrong rather than calling Silver out like 4chan and Reddit are

>>48179014
Virtual Streamers Worldwide. An old Zen thing that was just networking a ton of vtubers back in the day. Kinda fell by the wayside when VShojo happened.

Lowkey a bit sad, the vei fags are leaving.
Is this the end of vsj as we know it?
Like literally i have 76 iterations of vei wordclouds. Now the fuck am o going to do with this?

>>48178886
when fat bitch streams more oblivion tomorrow

>>48178890
Just move to a smaller city in Texas. Cheaper and still good internet connections

>>48178843
Would make no sense to mention it if she didn't mean he was Mouse's boyfriend. She's got no beef with Connor and doesn't even know the porn star.

maybe the new contract made mouse and vei work harder because they were the ones with higher ccv and we know vei is lazy

>>48179031
Silver who?

>>48178967
no one would have thought that Vei would say or do anything stupid in the first place, she's always been really smart with her stream/content

>>48178687
i dont remember posting this, but i do with all my heart.

>>48179064
That's just who silver is. She's a bitch

>>48178960
vei made it clear she's not interested in making any drama after this and will most likely move on quietly and do her own thing, i wish her the best

silver i don't doubt will want to milk the dramawhores for as much as she can to maintain bait views, will probably not stop at slandering mouse, dont be surprised if she goes for your oshi next

>>48178843
>Silvers comment meaning Connor and mouse are dating
but she didn't say anything about Mouse and Connor?
she literally just said she's not his gf
why do mousefags think everything revolves around that pink rat

>>48178967
Vei's only sin has been she can be a little bitchy from time to time and is very stupid a lot of the time, plus dating soda but thats only a bad thing to some.

>>48179079
>leaving
Not until the last edit gets posted

Probably not the best time with all the drama going on here, but... any chance you're up for participating in Lord of the Board, /vsj+/?
>>48172053
>>48171302
Only 7 hours are left until the submission deadline, so if you want to enter your rep, you'd need to fill the submission form soon.

>>48179068
Twitter has thousands of people that don't watch streams and will just jump into the conversation having seen nothing or only a couple of clips. People on Reddit and here here being /vsj+/, not the catalog actually have the context to make a more informed decision

Silver doing another life/career ending mistake.
Within a year.
And this wasn't even the worst one.

>>48179122
>no one would have thought that Vei would say or do anything stupid in the first place,
lol
>she's always been really smart with her stream/content
RUMAO

>>48179096
She can’t because otk is Austin and soda is a member of that org

>>48179079
I will still post updates of what vei says when she streams

>>48179173
It’s about Connor. Who else would it be about?

>>48178843
first of all Silver is a cunt for trying to expose mousey's personal life
secondly Connor has three GFs: his Puerto Rican twitch GF Ironmouse, his Japanese YouTube GF Kaho Shibuya and his Welsh offline GF a sheep named Cariad

>>48179226
>when she streams
So you're no longer posting vei updates?

>>48179140
Ok, mousefag. Whatever you say, mousefag.

>>48179079
Same anon, same.

>>48179079
with how chummy aethel and soda have been getting we will always be haunted by the Baba Yaga

>>48179214
it's funny as hell she apparently got triggered so hard by someone simple saying "everyone makes mistakes." like she took that personally. incredibly funny

>>48179173
>she literally just said she's not his gf

why the fuck would she say that if not to indirectly diss mouse? She knows about the shipping and brought Connor up to get under her skin.

Mouse should start subathon just when silver redebuts

>>48179262
Refer to >>48179287

>>48179167
well good thing vshojo protects their talent against harassment and sland... oh

>>48179173
Anon, who the fuck was in her ex org? Connor or Mouse, I’ll get that Connor collabed with Silver before they weren’t close, hell that could be easily her response “I was never close to him”, why the fuck say that she isn’t her bf or why even read that comment. Connor is like the farthest person in this drama

Anny live https://www.twitch.tv/anny

>>48179068
twitter is full of vt/pol containment breakers who will always look for ways to fuel the fire, guarantee you if it were not for the trans drama none of them would be on silver's side

>>48178967
The difference in response is staggering, although maybe Silver will also backpedal a bit?

>>48179220
Then they should move out of that shithole

>>48179262
>>48179331
>>48179367
he could be fucking jap femboy and you would never know
>Silver doesn't say anything about Mouse and Connor
>"SHE TOTALY TALKED ABOUT THEM BRO"
meds delusional mousefags
not everything is about rat bitch

>>48179367
Exactly, why else would she bring up Connor other than to get under Mouse's skin knowing that they are close.

>>48179349
mouse please do this

>>48179316
They're gonna make pink cat leave by next year too, and thus this thread will forever be purged of anything related to vei
Cap this

>>48179062
more or less two years

>>48179407
She literally did bring them up though

>>48179173
Because the only person connecting the two of them is Mouse and why say "He's not MY boyfriend" when no one said anything about boyfriends or relationships or any of that shit.

so the one who reviewed vei's contract was soda's brother
probably not but still funny

>>48179420
oh my god the ultimate act of deserved pettiness lmao

>>48179349
Silver is not redebuting

>>48179195
We'll see if someone fills in the form otherwise good luck with this wrestling thing

>>48179376
yeah it's not hard to realize which side is probably wrong when fucking groomergator is one of the people coming to your defense

I never look at Twitter so I didn't know this many people actually hate froot damn these people need some Apex

>>48179464
Redebuting as an indie.

>>48179327
>cut your dick off kids
>I have the moral high ground

lmao no

>>48179064
my oshi <3

i love how mousefags have 0 evidence so instead they make up their own with
>she totally meant mouse and connor bro

>>48179327
froot was right all along

I'm honestly starting to think that Vei wasn't expecting Silver to do what she did. Do you think anyone will address it at all? Are they allowed to say something like "I'm disappointed she decided to voice her frustration in this way instead of talking about it?"

>>48179464
First stream or whatever

>>48179488
I hate her too though

Nyan will leave next.
And then mouse will die, leaving vsj by default.

Sad times vsj. Big sad.

Hopefully nazuna stays.

>>48179526
you can leave now, we are not needed here anymore.

>>48179546
Honestly the posts kinda make it seem like she's trying to damage control Silver's exit potentially affecting her as well lmao

>>48179488
turns out when you support children mutilating their genitals, and almost give a bunch of money to actual pedos, you get shit on. Who would have thought.

>>48179487
>Groomergator
>Asmon
>Tectone
>Pippa
Why does Silver have such bad taste in friends?

>>48179526
It's desperation. Anything to distract from the fact that Mouse was, once again, exposed as a massive clout chasing bitch who would backstab anyone to go up another rung on the relevancy ladder.

>>48179456
>sodas friend malena helped with visa
>sodas brother helped with contract
>sodas org can help with merch
based bf
also please remember whoever helped her with her with this is not at fault for her leaving if there actually was something fucked up in the contract

>>48179453
She could've easily dismissed that chatter mentioning Connor or just said "I'm not really friends with him" but no, has to mention that she's not his boyfriend. It's so fucking obvious, she did it to piss Mouse off.

>>48179368
keep pretending that silver didn't refuse to listen to management on doing the stupidest most obvious shit possible

>>48179591
i did see vei catching a hilarious amount of strays on twitter earlier

>>48179572
bro I don't even know who Nazuna is because I don't speak a dying language

>>48179649
omg, you're so right sister, and definitely not a parasocial psychopath

Pray for my sexy hostess wife

>>48179623
because she's probably a shitty person herself

Do you think Silver will drop it or double down? Her fans are so insanely loyal to her that this incident won't make them leave, but what would? Would she be willing to go that far?

>>48179620
>almost

is the keyword.
Froot has enough common sense to just say things people want to hear and not carry any of it out.

>>48179591
She was unironically here A lot of people trying to push that she convinced siler to leave and shit. Clearing it up is just the cleanest way to address anything further that people will make up

>Vei & Silver leave
>Nyan leaves
>Mouse dies
>Nazuna leaves
>Zen leaves exactly 2 years from now
This is the end of Vshojo. You are watching the collapse.

>>48179681
Don't bother even hearing her. because at the end of the day she goes by rushia and even with that vtuber persona she still sucks at it

>>48179488
on the brightside theres more people defending her now that its made clear she's not the shitstirrer of the org

>>48179725
She'll make some more snide comments, but leave it at that.

>>48179368
they tried to tell silver not to do what she did and she did it anyway. i'm sure they was explicitly told why it was a bad idea. they tried to help protect her and she ignored their advice. all of silver's problems are her own fucking fault

It's crazy seeing how she used to try and accommodate for others in collabs and everyone who knew her called her a nice person, only for her to turn around and do this. Like night and day.

>>48179779
this is all a part of the plan, vshojo will die
and vshounen will rise
debuting with arcadum

>>48179825
she is the definition of a "nice guy" in female form

Vei herself is not /here/ you fucking retards, it's Pen coming here and reading the threads telling her shit

>>48179818
>Talent freedom org
>No not like that!

>>48179546
imagine if in her re-debut she starts of by directly calling silver a lying whore kek

>i can't speak for silver because we didn't leave "together".
wow vei how could anyone have thought this

>>48179797
I can't see her surviving if all she does is take potshots at her former orgmates.

>>48179825
How could Mouse do this?

>>48179725
double down as soon as the views drop

>>48179880
She was allowed to play the Hogwarts game despite being told it was a bad idea. That is literally freedom. She was free to make a stupid choice. They advised her why it was a bad choice. What the hell more do you want?

>vshojo is dying
This is exactly what happened to a conference in college football. Everyone thought they were gonna die after 2 members left but now they added 4 new ones and are stronger than before. Vshojo will be fine

>>48179967
Support her choices.

>>48179876
Well she does have the sexual aggression and entitlement.
>>48179899
The cutting up the letters left a bad taste in my mouth and proved to me that the reason Silver left is because she unironically hates most of her orgmates. Why? We don't know, there's NDAs and stuff, but her response was about as bad as it could be and I don't know how she expected people to take it.

>>48179713
Ok say you're Silver upset at Mouse for not giving you enough attention the past few months. Someone in chat asks you about Connor. How the hell do you respond with "Idk he's not MY boyfriend" big silent pause "he's nice though"? Could have just said he's nice and end it at that.

>>48179572
There is no way Silver outlives Mouse

>>48179014
https://www.twitch.tv/team/antilewdarmy

Seems to be the Twitch group

>>48179879

>>48179972
>college football
Where the fuck do you think you are that that would be relatable???

>>48179649
why are mousefags like this
you make up imaginary scenarios in your head again

>>48179880
Anon she was free to stream it anyway and like everyone told her she got into problems and blame vshojo and the others for not support her... Welp

>>48179972
I don't know what the future holds but people have been doomposting about vshojo since it was created kek

>>48180007
That isn't what freedom means. Freedom doesn't mean other people have to support your choices and come to your defense for making bad choices, it just means your free to make those choices. You still have to accept the consequences of them whether they be good or bad

>>48179591
Vei is still in good terms and doesn't want to be associated with Silver's menhera moment

>>48180007
>do not do this it makes mustard gas
>creates mustard gas
>"we stand by her decision to make mustard gas"

I find it funny that the idea of being told not to do something that will lead to harm, only to do that thing, not being stopped because you were given free will, and then becoming bitter and spiteful because what you were told would happen happened is unironically how the problem of evil is addressed in some interpretations of The Bible.

>>48179972
they're more like the big east, except instead of catholic schools they are latinian.

>>48179879
Fabricated shit lies making himself look like a hero in Vei's eyes

>>48179880
>we're advising you not to do this stupid thing but the end decision is up to you
>"this is literally a dictatorship"

>>48180011
>sexual aggression
it would take her a total of 1 hour to go on Tinder, hook up with somebody and get absolutely dicked to Kingdom Come. Why is she so dumb?

>>48180085
Because it’s verbatim of what’s currently happening

What's the overlap between Silver viewers and Mouse viewers? I want to know if Mouse's subathon will depress her and other streamer's numbers

>>48179818
Vshojo members should have supported Silver in her decision to play the game but she was also a bit silly to expect people she didn't talk with for 7 months to jump in front of the gun for her.

The real issue is that Vshojo needs to collab and bond more instead of them all going forming small cliques.

Silver is actually an unhinged pickme. I don't have the knowledge or expertise to say why she's that way and nobody can read her mind. But she needs to grow as a person.

>>48180007
Anon please consider sterilization.

>>48180174
Mouse viewer, have literally never watched a single Silver stream

>>48180159
Afraid of going outside or being vulnerable.

>>48179899
Vei posted this probably went to bed and didn't watch silver go unhinged on stream

>>48179972
i agree that this all just doomposting but if nyan actually leaves it will actually be fucking over

Nooooo! She's attacking vei!!!
Make her stop!

>>48180085
We had Veibillsbro during the NFL season, it's relatable. Just because you never played sports because you had asthma doesn't mean there aren't people who did here.

>>48180106
We all thought Silver was in good terms except with Froot until yesterday showed she hated more members so Vei is just not saying to avoid drama

>>48179880
>im not your boss or anything but walking on lava is probably a bad idea
>*walks on lava*
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IT BURNS WHY ARENT YOU HELPING ME

>>48180174
Big subathons always cause a decrease in viewership across the board

>>48180174
last Mouse subathon killed everyone's viewership.

>>48180181
>Vshojo members should have supported Silver in her decision to play the game

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEUvhdewbMs&t=19930s

>vei literally, unironically implies that vshojo contracts are a complete fucking scam and you need to hire a lawyer to go through them to not get fucked over
>silver says she and ironmouse fell off and haven't really talked in quite a while
>/vsj+/ thinks vei is more professional here

>>48180174
https://stats.roki.sh/silvervale/7

>>48180174
Silver is GFE, I honestly can't stand her streams and pretty sure there's not much overlap with other vshojo girls since she's the only one doing that kind of content.

>>48180118
>compare making a weapon to making a SOUND and ECONOMICALLY CORRECT decision
those streams made money, and brought her new fans on the basis of going against the twitter freaks - cant wait for the shitting and crying when the sequel or a DLC comes out or the new quidditch game and everyone jumps on those games wanting to make bank now that its proven tranny seethers have no influence

Oh noooo, not the pick cat!!!
Aaiiieeeeeee

>>48180252
fair. She also has that big tits friend though that could eat her out for hours.

>>48178773
Meds

>>48179079
post them on /lig/

>>48180357
yeah totally that's why she's crying about not being more popular

>>48180344
Why do the Japanese love Ark so much?

Oh God, not zen!!!
Nooooooooo

Silver unironically needs mental help and if Vei is reading this she needs to tell her that.

>>48180357
>tranny seethers have no influence

i mean, they were living rent free in silver’s head bad enough she threw a tantrum about it and left vshojo. it’s indirect but that’s still cause and effect

>>48180366
>>48180452
Based
>>48180373
Who?

>>48180353
lmao, 5 of top ten are vshojo, and she is burning bridges here

>>48180261
Vei might not be close with everyone but I doubt she secretly hates anyone or is hated. When she was together with Mouse on new years stream etc I got like the little sister of the group vibes from how they treat vei and always thought Silver's OMMMGG I LUVVVV UUU thing was super fake.

>>48180349
contract probably asked her to do work and she got angry. Good luck with the indie life.

>>48180085
Probably some cushy Ivy League school.

>>48180482
don't remember they took a picture of their tits together

>>48180354
She actively encourages her chat to be parasocial for her, which is something most vshojos are against.

>>48179899
Why did she use the VShojo background for this

>>48180349
>vei literally, unironically implies that vshojo contracts are a complete fucking scam and you need to hire a lawyer to go through them to not get fucked over
contracts are difficult to understand as a layman because lawyers wants them to be that way so that you're forced to get a lawyer of your own to understand it
as a independant worker having a lawyer read your contracts is pretty much the bare minimum you should do, im not surprised vei signed a contract without reading it the first time around but you NEVER do that

>>48180450
Kson loves it because it lets her forget about her life and spend her time doing cool stuff like hunting dinosaurs. As for the rest of Japan I'm not sure but I know she's a major reason why it's popular among Japanese vtubers.

>>48180069
hi newfag
https://desuarchive.org/aco/thread/4822100/#4824356

>>48180085
Did you forget raider anon

>>48180353
>Channel: Ironmouse
>Overlap probability: 37.06%

/lig/ is requesting pregnant vei >>48180573

>HIRE LAWYERS THAT KNOW WHAT THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE.
What did Vei mean by this? Is VShojo raking in more money from their talents than the industry standard? Are you better off with the Holoniji 30% general cut?

>>48180357
yeah they made her so many new fans she cried about not getting enough views on her way out kek

>cant wait for the shitting and crying when the sequel or a DLC comes out

from silver after she gets dogpilled again? yeah me too

>>48180591
Fug, you really can't expect me to remember one of her posts from 2 years ago

>>48180353
Just for fun.

>>48180623
she is dead KEK

Silvervale showed the "Rainah" side of her again.

>>48180637
Unless Silver leaks her defunct contract, we may never know.

>>48180349
>>vei literally, unironically implies that vshojo contracts are a complete fucking scam and you need to hire a lawyer to go through them to not get fucked over

I mean... look at nazuna, poor girl cant english and got massively shafted

>>48180787
But I thought she has like 15 lawyers

>>48180637
if its true that soda's brother is the lawyer that opinion might be a bit skewed if we're comparing vtuber industry standards and a non-vtuber org

>>48180686
i hope to be wrong but this was probably the worst decision silver ever made. Vei i understand, vei is strong by herself but silver... Silver is fucked.

>>48180637
The girls never shilled the merch and shit
But I bet what they ear from streaming is still 100% theirs if not Kson and Nazuna would have bailed right away

>>48180787
blame Kson for roping her into this

So who was it that told me that Silver can just ignore twitter for a few days and the wizard game drama would blow over because only a few losers care?

>>48180637
Newfag, Vei would never be referring to vtubing as the general industry standard.

>>48180349
Hiring a lawyer to help you parse a contract is just good business practice.
Vei felt that the contract didn't work for her, and therefore did not sign it.

It's the most normal reason she can possibly have.

>>48180821
yeah problem is not a single one speaks english

>>48180787
Naunza has a bunch of lawyers i doubt they didn't see it

>>48180855
apparently she didn't do that

>>48180846
Yeah, I was always under the impression that 100% of stream earnings were the girls, merch handled by Vshojo is 100% Vshojo, any merch the girls do on their own is 100% theirs.

>>48180637
It means OTK takes a smaller sponsorship cut

>>48180306
Because they need to stick together if they want to feel some kind of group identity.
It's also terrible for many other reasons to let twitter freaks harass somebody just for playing a game, including that it would undermine the talent freedom motto of the company.

>>48180855
Me and I stand by it. Should have ignored it instead of making a stream escalating like a fucking retard.

>>48180883
oh yeah basically lowkey shitting on Vshojo contracts and discouraging people from orbiters to join/painting Vshojo as a bad agency. VERY COOL VEI. This is worse than Silver.

>>48180833
unironically think silver will be fine and get possibly bigger if she starts fleshstreaming as the rrats are suggesting, but yeah idk wtf silver was thinking cuz those anti vshojo views will eventually die out like last time

>>48180833
Pretty much.
If she couldn't grown within VShojo, how does she expect to grow as an indie?

She doesn't collab and doesn't network. She plays niche games nobody watches. She waffles endlessly on whether she wants to be a lewdtuber or not.

Unless she actually makes a change, this is her slowly fading out.

>irnomouse the rockstar of vtubing with a billion friends and mega fanbase
>Couldn't find time to have a sitdown and chat with silver
Ohhhh noooo, she's the perfect little savior, she couldn't possible have gotten an ego and ignored Silver. She has to another Connor collab!

>>48179173
Mousefags unironically think that they are her "family" because they give her money

>>48180975
yeap. Vshojo only gets the money from the merch they make and something from sponsors they get for the girls.

>>48180975
Also an unknown cut for being the middle man for sponsors, but as shown by Vei and Mouse, they can get a separate agency for sponsors as well.

Silver's fans are Keys-lite, but if she publicly hooks up with Asmon and embraces his chat she could very easily drive them away.

>>48181054
go back

>everyone else should stand around and get stung because some retard kicked the wasps nest

>>48181015
Vei presumably signed her initial contract without reading it and you are still somehow stupider than her.

>See snuffy raid cottontail.
>check kemono.
>cottontail does the audio for snuffy.

I was joking about snuffy and cotton sounding the same here awhile back. but video ruined my day because it wasnt voiced by snuffy.

>>48181015
>doesn't implicate ironmouse
mousefags here won't care

>>48181110
Cotton × Snuffy for the clam slam.

>>48181102
this guy can't into not even that subtle dissing lmao

>>48181034
The same way vtubers like Limes and Snuffy, and many other indies do? Be hot, interesting and do interesting things?

>>48181080
silver dating toothblood moldycup is funnier than anyone suggesting it realizes

>>48181054
I don't doubt that Silver got shafted, but it sounds like she just used everything to justify a grudge against Mouse for being the golden goose. Did Silver attempt to reach out to her at all? She doesn't say she did.

>>48181015
sorry we're not corporate cucks like holofags most of us just care about the actual talent here

>>48180980
all the other girls decided to not play the game on stream because they knew it would bring drama, there is the group identity
one person decided to go against the flow and then is surprised that no one is backing her up, she literally knew what would happen and did it anyway

>>48181187
do not put Limes name in the same sentence as Snuffy you whore

>vei got fucked by her contract
This was known early on, she's hinted at it for years. She has made these exact points before

Vei good
Silver snake

>>48180681
The age mention in the post should have given you a hint

>>48181198
The implication that he, a sociopath, is the only man who would take her is hilarious. But if it happens she can just coast off of him forever and she'll never face the consequences of her actions.

>>48181239
Limes was a minor insignificant member of Vinesauce untill she blew up with her vtube model. I remember the olden times, but vtubing made her popular.

>>48181239
They're literally friends and raid each other frequently

>>48180833
she will be alright

https://youtu.be/lkB_d0oFAaM
So ya listening to any music anons

>>48181239
why?

>>48181298
give it time and she'll burst into flames

>leaves
>says they're a shit company
Vei is a being stereotypical with her reason

>>48181239
Limes raided Snuffy's stream an hour ago, moron.

>>48181298
Best case scenario.

>>48181054
damn i didn't know it suddenly because mouse's job to be the personal manager of everyone who underperforms

>>48181015
Why would you sign a contract like that without lawyering up anyway? Saying she wasn't satisfied with the financials isn't a great look but Silver implying the other members are fake or never reached out to her is worse. Vei is a huge streamer, but she's also a dumb young woman who signed a contract without looking it over, and Silver is just a bitch.

>>48181309
>They're literally friends
and other anons delusions
>>48181300
Limes was getting twice the views of majority of liggers before vtubing was even a thing

>>48181295
I barely remember my own age. I remember her being 22....

>>48181286
Both are snakes retard

>>48181298
I can't wait for the Silvervale Asmon common law marriage lawsuit in 6 years.

when will we be rid of the silver stragglers

>>48181433
that's Vei in a year bro

>>48180855
Yes anon. If she HAD done that it probably would have happened. But she didn't, and here we are lmao

>>48181515
Never.
>>48181514
I have no ill will towards Vei.

>>48180272
>NOOOOO YOU CANT PLAY NEW GAME CAUSE EVIL WOMAN DONT YOU KNOW THIS IS LITTERLY KILLING TRANNIES !!!!

Touch grass you freak

>>48179349
I would honest you God donate to that subathon.

>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1803806975?t=02h10m42s
Silver mentions here that both her and Vei decided to leave separately but both got announced at the same time, 'do with that what you will'. She also noted a few minutes earlier about how strange it is that it was announced at midnight.
What is Silver getting at here? She's clearly trying to imply something about both of them being announced on the same day, as if VShojo is up to something, but I don't understand what.

>>48181576
neither do I but these eceleb relastionships don't last. 2-3 years max. In VERY rare cases they last longer like Wolfychu.

>>48181624
oh you're just delusional, got it

>>48181227
Doing little to nothing for Silver still didn't reflect good on them, especially when other popular streamers played the game.

>>48181295
Her new model is looking pretty good desu

>>48181624
watch out bro, I got warned for daring to question the freaks and their retardation

Aethel doing a drug PSA it's wholesome

I continue my quest to normalize the thread, and thanks to the artists giving me another #DressUpMel to showcase:

Cyber Cat Attack Melody by @widowsweaver

>>48181295
Sex model

>>48181657
vshojo is trying to minimize the bad PR of having to vtubers drop out.

>announce at midnight so fewer people see it.
>announce both together instead of separately which would prolong people talking about how the ship is sinking

>>48181733
Sniffy...

>>48181688
maybe its because vshojo is SJW whipped

>>48181657
I would assume that there isn't any sort of conspiracy on the Vshojo side. Contracts probably had a deadline for ratification, both Vei and Silver decided separately to not renew before that deadline. VShojo announced them at the same time once the deadline hit. It's pretty typical.

>>48181657
I'm gonna guess vshojo intentionally announced them both at once to avoid a situation where they announce one leaving, people freak out and then they announce another member left. Doing that would make them look worse.

>>48180964
>>48181007
>>48181518
You might be unaware that you're heavily implying that you think her playing it in the first place wasn't a risky move.
>but that's not what I said
Yeah, because you're not thinking what you're implying here.
I'm just letting you know that you're too dumb for any meaningful analysis. Hopefully you learn one day.

>>48179068
Started looking at the posts about it and most are yeah not liking how Silver handled this but this one got me lmfao

vei probably should have asked her lawyer whether talking about her contract violates her NDA

>>48181792
Ripping off the bandage instead of pulling it off slowly is usually the best policy.

>>48181657
She's just being catty for the sake of it. She's not stupid, everything she said was on purpose, and she knows how the community will take it.

Obviously all their contracts renew at the same time. Why would they be announced separately?

>>48181657
Her press conference was full of vague shit like that.
>Teehee! I can't say anymore! You'll have to figure it out :)
A real bitch move I must say. Feeding rrats to drama channel.

>>48181687
Show me the number of troons who have died cause of the magic game

>>48181657
>She's clearly trying to imply something about both of them being announced on the same day
VSJ is a company, and normal risk aware companies don't publish bad news multiple times in a week if they can avoid it.
It's clearly the logical choice to publish that the 2 of them are leaving at the same time.
This feels more like Silver trying to start a weird easter egg hunt for something that isn't there.

>>48181797
she doesn't smoke anymore

I'm still in disbelief that Silver went live and set up a conference room to shit on Mouse specifically. Did she name drop anyone else in a negative light or was it literally just Mouse and Connor she directly mentioned? If so, that just screams spite and jealousy to me.

>>48181792
>>48181831
>>48181837
thats the thing, this is really obvious why they dropped it when they did but Silver is acting like there's something devious going on

>>48181688
purposely getting yourself into drama that you knew would happen and expecting everyone who warned you not to get involved to help you out of your own fuckup and get roped into more harassment themselves is not the gotcha you think it is

>>48181792
... Contract expired at midnight, duh.

Sucks if some good streamers won't apply now cause they'll think something like they don't want to replace vei/silver

>>48181903
she still eats edibles sometimes

>>48181877
>Why would they be announced separately?
They shouldn't, but my guess is that either Vei or Silver told VShojo first and one of them did it later and they assumed it would be staggered based on that.

wait, why do Vei and Silver contracts end on the same day anyway?

>>48181849
no that is exactly what I am implying

>>48181930
cause she's menhera

>>48181930
Silver likes to be in a manic depressive state.

>>48181849
I did imply that but nice try backing off like a bitch.

>>48181923
She didn't reference them unprovoked. Her dumbass chatters asked about them specifically and she responded. She should have ignored the questions but you could tell, at least with the Mouse friend comment, she was really hurt by something and kept thinking about how to respond without really calling her out, but ultimately failed.

>>48181923
>set up a conference room to shit on Mouse specifically
meds

>>48181992
Because all their contracts end on the same day

>>48181930
She was acting like a teenager, there is nothing more to it

why are mousefags like this

>>48181992
because it's easier to handle instead of everyone having different dates? Maybe that's why vshojo stalls so much, they want all contracts to expire togehter (?)

>>48180353
>https://stats.roki.sh/silvervale/7
shared chatters does not equal shared viewers, most viewers doesn't really chat.
https://twitchatlas.com/#Silvervale
This is a little outdated but community wise these are the people that matters to silver

>>48181858
she didnt say anything that could be covered by an nda. she didnt even say it was bad, just that it didnt make financial sense to her

>>48182095
Insecure fanbase

>>48181923
I'd say Silver has the biggest victim complex, but shit, mousefags outdo her.

>>48181903
She moved onto drinking...

>>48182067
Thanks for completely ignoring the part where I asked if she mentioned anyone else and not just Mouse

>>48181923
a lot of people were expecting her to say something about froot but unlike catalog shitters hoped theres no actual beef between them kek, that being said i wouldn't be surprised if she took a shot at anyone else in the future

>>48181923
You don't understand Mouse didn't ask her how was day it's conpletely fine to dox her relationship status

>>48182145

>>48182149
she drinks Smirnoff Ices that shit is like water anyway

>>48181930
if its true vshojo made sure to announce all the ex-talents at the same time that means everyone else is safe for at least another year right?

>>48181994
>>48182028
Then you're even more retarded than I thought you were. To make it so clear that even someone as dumb as you gets it, I think it shouldn't be a big deal for someone to play a Harry Potter game and this is important on a societal level to push back. That battle has to be fought at some point. But Silver dragged people into this battle that didn't want to be a part of the battle. That's what she did wrong.

>>48182248
haha unless

>>48182158
>didn't watch the stream
>states emphatically that the stream was set up to bash mouse
lol

>>48182063
>Her dumbass chatters asked about them specifically and she responded

But she set up a conference room to answer questions. She knew exactly what she was doing and getting herself into and she knows that Twitch chat will try to start anything.

>>48182248
check the twitter checkmarks

>>48182063
She sure picked out the stupid questions.

>>48182272
i am not disagreeing, drink some water anon

>>48182282
>She knew exactly what she was doing
lmao we got a telepath here boys!
tell me some lotto numbers anon

>>48178873
You faggots really believe "Pen" writes tweets and makes a 4chan diary for her? Why would she care to read anything at all? What's different than reading it yourself if someone just tells you all the bullshit drama that happens anyway?

>>48180623
Now is the time to strike snuffy, get into the org since they need more talents also its time to corrupt Zen even further into furrydom

>>48182299
silvervale literally got hers and a vshojo badge tho

>>48182282
>>48182326
Stop circlejerking drama, seriously.

>>48182272
It's not a big deal unless you are a retard who cares about vtweeters seething or a /pol/tard obsessed with muh culture war.
What Silver did wrong is letting them mindbroke her and then using her stream to fight with them.

>>48181856
kek

>>48182391
Please stop replying to retards. They know their stupid narrative is debunked, but they don't care what you think.

>>48180686
This is more likely because of covid tho. Every single streamer got a huge bump on viewers, and if you look at the graph she was already going up, so I would argue that Covid had more impact than Vshojo

You know. Maybe people do need to live under strict dogma and enforced morality in order for all to live a life of peace. Looking at what too much freedom and lax morality has done and created, I can only see looser whores who need to hide behind a cartoon mask in order to gain fame and money through social manipulation and lust, and still desire to stir the pot for useless drama.

>>48181931
>purposely getting yourself into drama
She wanted to play a popular game. Any kind of drama that stems from that shouldn't be tolerated in the first place.
Yes Silver isn't blameless for expecting people she wasn't really communicating with to help her but if push comes to shove it's more important to support your org members instead of letting mentally ill twitter freaks dedicated what you can or can't do.

>>48181856
fukin kek

Ross server is gonna be interesting whenever that happens lol

I'm gonna go to bed and dream of ironmouse

>>48182574
I just watched your 4 day date with Kaho. Not gonna lie, may drop some Patreon bucks to see the dick museum bit.

>>48182543
>She wanted to play a popular game
Then she should have done that instead of dedicating an entire stream to advertising the whining of some absolute literal whos.

UM SISTERS AETHEL HAS BEEF WITH IRONMOUSE LIVE ON HIS STREAM RIGHT NOW

so.... Aethel sold his soul to satan. Welp, he is in.

>>48182574
goodnight anon

>>48182543
Then just stream it? Let the mods do their job and clean up the chat, ignore twitter, and have a good time.

>>48182663
>>48182677
kek what did he say?

>>48182653
YOU ARE NOT A TIME TRAVELER STOP FUCKING LOOPING DIPSHITS

aethel is such a bro

>>48182342
come again?

What kind of H game should I play to take the edge off before sleep?

>>48182338
No, you are disagreeing. You might have changed your tunes or been unaware of what you're implying. Dumb is a pretty loaded word so I'll say it again. It circles it back to the fact that you're too naive to make meaningful analysis, and hopefully you learn one day.

>>48182473
This is exactly the viewpoint which caused escalated into the mess, and that's why I thought it would be worth it to take another look. Maybe you'll get rid of your naivety on the subject.

>Silver did/didn't directly shit talk Mouse.
>Mouse deserved it/Silver is a jealous pathetic cunt.
>Did silver actually talk about mouse though?
>Silver did/didn't directly shit talk Mouse.
Read this on repeat for the next few days to a week, funny enough the only person who's added anything of substance to this entire ordeal has been Vei.

>>48182576
Are Silver and Vei removed from the divegrass roster yet

Aethel and Pete collab next week

>Vein Gang and Pete Collab
INSHALLAH

>>48182728
Aethel said he's disappointed that Mouse is affiliated with Advanced GG instead of GamerSupps.

It's over bros, all the love is over.

>CONNOR AND AETHEL COLLAB SOON

OMG UNITY

>>48182677
gunrun dropping a vshonen branch on top of new members would be pretty funny after all of this

>>48182808
i would love the vshonen branch. I already watch Aethel anyways.

>>48182762
In these trying times we can depend on Vein Gang. Amen my bros

Why is Aethel implying the only reason he's not making out with Connor is because he's in a relationship already

>>48182574
Will it be an erotic dream?

>>48182861
i unironically vote for this as well

>>48182861
Aethel was one of my strongest candidates until he announced he was dating pink cat. After that it felt like it would be bad PR to add a member's bf.

>>48182876
sshhhh...sh.... quiet.

>>48182801
Vein gang returns...

>>48182801
>What if connor and I just kissed for 20 minutes then ended stream
Kek

>>48182876
Got to deny it to prevent pink cat divorce

>get cucked thinking giri was going to be nude with mel.
>get cucked thinking we would hear audio from snuffy but get cottontail.
>get cucked thinking layna or filian would stream with mel on CB.
>Silvervale just does jpeg rewards

I am suffering from a medical condition of blue balls hopefully the Momo Fansly shit happens.

>>48182797
I just like the metal shakers instead of the plastic ones. God forbid I forget about the plastic one for a day, it is forever unusable and has a stench that even a flamethrower couldn't remove. Metal ones can always be saved.

>>48182939
Connor and Aethel collab will bring Mouse and Nyan back together, boyfriends superior once again

Avoided doomsday with Nyan and Zen staying. One year clock extended.

>>48182995
SHE HAS NEON GREEN NIPPLES

>>48182638
already ahead of you and it is worth it

>nyan is in a meeting

>>48182995
>Momo
speaking of Momos. Whatever happened to that green girl? She's not a plus anymore?

>>48182790
Are they separated or it’s the same collab

>>48183109
vei too

>she is one of the hardest working people that I know
based Aethel sticking up for his woman

>>48183057
And freckles! Momo is hot. And sings like a damn angel sent from God hisself.

lol

>>48183111
seems like separate collabs

THILVERVALE I FILL SUBBORD YOU

>>48183071
You have convinced me. Monke will receive 2 of my hard earned USD.

>>48183112
Doesn't really do much to talk about, but seems to still be on good terms with Mel and Froot.

>>48183139
God I hope she's just trolling.

>>48183112
got together with bahroo and bunny, got cucked by Artesian Builds and faded in irrelevance. Very sad, i used to watch her all the time.

>>48183139
>covering
Who does she think she is, False?

>>48183232
How the fuck does she keep attracting the worst people possible?

aethel stop being here lmao

>>48183112
She bought a house and her streams are mainly her male friends talking while she doesn't say anything for 3 minute intervals

AETHEL STAY OUT OF HERE

>>48183139
Probably gonna be diplomatic considering she's close to Mel.

He fucking showed the stoning clip lmao
I'm so wet for Aethel

>>48183278
mouse rolled 1 with her build. Momo rolls 1 with her checks.

>>48183139
i hope she never joins

>>48183232
>got cucked by Artesian Builds
huh? Also it was obvious Bahroo wouldn't stream as a vtuber for long... it was just a clout chase... momo why you dumb.

>we love whores
fucking based

>>48183139
views baiting whore

Aethel just said we love whores. I assume because he's /here/ so often he forgot how bad that would sound out of context and he had to quickly correct it lmao

>>48181295
Whore
>>48181789
Kys parasocial

I can't believe Aethel called Silver middle-aged.

>>48181366
protip, when you leave a company, shitting on the company itself is completely different from shitting on the people you worked with there. if you care about your career ideally don't do either but definitely don't do the latter

>>48183417
i was there for his debut, god i even saved the memes they made.
https://twitter.com/Jayez_DE/status/1378030563081265164

Aethel is my man he's always got my back

>>48183124
Vei? Why

Don't care, still posting Vei.

>>48183508
Vei did not even shit on the company. All she implied was she wanted more money and they weren't willing to budge. So it didn't work out, seems pretty standard to me.

>>48183585
the ohio michigan area is more powerful than anyone realizes

Aethel saving the thread once again

>>48183634
It begs the question

Are former members considered +s?

>>48183634
luckily for you ive re-directed all my hatred to silver and silverfags, carry on +

>>48183293
>>48183326

what did he do?

Aethel said that he hates business-savvy MILFs, yet gets stoned with them.

Disgusting. Please continue, my lord.

>>48183714
showed the stoning gif and made funnies

>>48183330
its just clickbait

>>48183641
Yeah, probably wanted a bigger cut of sponsor / merch money or believed there was some way to negotiate it further but the contracts didn't allow for that and that's why she talked about lawyers and fine print with contracts and "industry standards". Basically whatever OTK does is "industry standard" to her I am sure.

>>48183688
if they continue collabing with the current members, sure

>>48183688
Depends on if you include them as +'s by default, or subject them to the same rules as the other +'s. In the former yes, in the latter Vei probably still would, but Silver would not.

Reminder that the reason Silver suddenly talked about Connor wasn't because she wanted to take a dig at anyone, it was because some retarded Connorfag (a Mousefag too probably) suddenly popped up in her chat to ask what she thinks about Connor, hence the bitchy response.
https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale/v/1803806975?sr=a&t=8750s

>>48183499
I mean, given the stuff she grew up with, she probably is lmao

>>48181896
One imaginary sister was lost.

F

>>48183714
Pointed out exactly he same thing about him "stoning" both Vei and Silver in the animated video that some people in here did earlier.

My dead internet theory rat: a substantial percent of posters on this general are girls from vshojo, pluses, mods and all the shittalk is just them venting their frustrations. And none of them know they're talking to each other.
Might explain why so many rats from here come true

>>48183870
if you keep thinking like that you'll start wearing diapers