/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Because foxfriend is better than a 3DPD?

another vhoejo deflection thread.

FBK was nice enough to set her boundary from the start.

>>48167278
Because she has the biggest balls in the vtubing world after she told China to go eat cock after the Coco fiasco.
The cat is beyond reproach.

>>48167278
The reverse of this is also true.
I had two really ugly female friends in the past that i had to obviously friendzone to stop their advances.
Hurts that they didn't want a friend, they only wanted my penis.

Because the friend thing is mostly a meme
Her member streams especially are pure GFE

You can always go to Nene

>>48167857
>Her member streams especially are pure GFE
tell me more

>>48167857
I don't believe you
[spolier]go on?[/spoiler]

>>48168031(me)
my spoiler reps...

>>48167278
Or you know, maybe I'm the type of guy who'd rather date a good friend rather than a complete stranger.
I thought we had some chemistry since we got along. I hope throwing me under the bus just to feel like a victim was worth, I lost a friend.

Also the fox is so cute I don't consider her to be a human being. She is an idol.

>>48167581
SHE'S NOT A FUCKING CAT
QUIT IT WITH THESE LIES

>>48168078

>>48167278
Women are mentally ill and lack empathy. If a longtime orbiter wants to sleep with you it is because they are literally in love with you and want a real relationship.
Weird how women will jump through any mental loops required to justify being a whore online as "empowering" but they suddenly can't see the nuances of attraction when some ugly beta is interested in them, then they reduce it to the most vulgar possible interpretation

>>48168115
Proof ?

>>48168201
https://youtu.be/kIdIL2Oy7Qc

>>48167278
FBK is a tremendous example of how the Overton window has shifted thanks to nijifagji EN. People used to shitpost constantly about her saying friend back on JP. "She won't even call her fans husband? Wow cucked". FBK was still parasocial to a degree. At the time it was unheard of for someone to shit on their viewers in the way Niji en (or some people in holo en too) do. Now you have people like Elira "I'm not your friend" Pendora being the new norm. It's just crazy to think that being called friend used to be the bottem back in the day. Now you have to genuinely search for someone who treats their audience like that.

>>48168427
None of them are your friend anon, never will be. Theyre streamers, doing their job

>>48168098
>>48168166
It's also because, it's typically not healthy to stick around something that gives you urges you can't/shouldn't indulge. An ex-addict should probably keep taboo items out of their vicinity.
If someone's down bad for you, you really think they can just get over you with a snap? Did you get over all your exes in one night? Also, it's as if they wouldn't complain about us remaining clingy believing we still had a chance if we stayed around after they already told us no.
It's L/L. You almost can't blame people for not trying anymore.
The only reason women get to dominate conversations like this is because men are more prone to keeping quiet or only sharing in utmost privacy.

It's part of the reason why, in an era of "oversharing", people end up more cloistered even behind layers of anonymity and irony.

>>48167278
Because Fubuki orgasms during ASMR with her fans, making her a sexfriend.

>>48168599
So true sister. I love vox as well.

>>48167278
because foobs is a nice girl. that's literally all you have to be, nina was right.

>>48168887
Nina is a good woman. She even defended Pomu from the freaks throwing shade at her in Nina's own chat.

If you're a white man, you could easily rape Fubuki with little resistance.

>>48167278
When is that post even from? Pretty sure red pill and black pill don't talk about the friend zone anymore.

>>48168427
The introduction of male vtubers and e-celeb leeches has been disastrous for the community. Now you have an aggressive "no fun allowed" faction (which is likely staffed almost entirely by the male streamers and their inner circle) that works tirelessly to dismantle the culture of streamer/fan interaction.

>>48168599
Watame is my family.

>>48167278
She didn't mislead or try to farm gachi, her, korone and suisei are the examples of vtubing done right.

Men and women can't be *just* friends.

>>48167278
The men who post on this site don't see women as fully human so truthbombs like this tweet will fly over their balding heads kek. Scrotes should rope themselves

>>48169084
>glasses
ruined

>>48167946
I hate to say it but he's basing this off of like 3 clips, her member asmr is about the same as her public and very rarely ever go past light roleplay.

>>48167278
That's the ultimate goal of mankind: to procreate. What does she expect?
>sex? no thank you, I only want lasting relationships built on trust and abstinence
hell women bleed out their cunt and get terrible cramping pains and do you know why? it's their body yelling at them for not having a baby yet. Telling them you better fucking hurry because after you turn 40 the chances of your child turning out actually retarded are exponentially higher

>>48169334
Crystal cafe is that way

>>48167278
>”waifu ok” during her ASMRs
>literally brought out an alter dark persona to become your wife

Better getting friendzoned than being completely forgotten about by her. Dozens of names she wouldn't have survived without left in the dust.

>>48169334
I can fix you

>>48167278
always the victim with these bitches

>>48169334
>The men who post on this site
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

>>48168427
>People used to shitpost constantly about her saying friend back on JP. "She won't even call her fans husband? Wow cucked".
No they fucking didn't, retard.

>>48169804
Kurokami existed before the friend meme was even a thought.

>>48169084
But she'll lovingly call you Chocoball if you're black

>>48168427
I don’t care if only 1 single anon actually reads any of this, and I don't care if anyone thinks this is biting bait or whatever, at least I know that I've posted the actual truth about Elira and not a shitpost like the rest of you fuckers.
>I've been thinking that maybe I should add more chat rules. To be honest, I think I should probably add more chat rules because sometimes there are chat messages that make me very uncomfortable and I don't know how to reply to them. And I'm like, um... ok, hahaha... but yeah. Thinking of adding more chat rules. Umm, honestly I think I've- because I don't have mods, I've been pretty lenient with everything. Y'know? 'cuz I feel like nobody says anything to mean harm towards me, knowingly. Or, to cause me an inconvenience unknowingly. Or maybe they do and I'm just not seeing it but I've always just assumed that everybody doesn't do anything thinking of me poorly but probably gonna be more strict about things because I don't know what's going on lately, heh, but, I feel like I have a need to be a little bit more strict. Ahahahaha... (The ban hammer?) More like, uh, what is it called? Time out? I'll probably start giving people warnings and then giving them time outs and then if you still can't follow what I'm saying then... bye... I'll probably do like a "time out, time out, and then if it's too many times over, cya" kinda thing. But yeah, I'll think about it. I'll think about it during my break as well. Sometimes it stresses me out a lot, like after a stream where I feel like I'm being treated as more of an object than as a person. And it kinda stresses me out a lot, and I don't know how to- I'm not good with confrontation. Y'know? And we're not friends, either, in a sense. Like, I call you guys my besties because I trust you guys but we're not friends to the extent that I can just be like "hey." Y'know, like I hate saying it, and it sucks but we're not friends at the end of the day. Y'know? But, yeah. Yknow? Like, I love you guys so much. SO so so much. Like you are my... I don't know, like you are my child or something, I don't know. Like, I don't know what it's called, like I just love you guys so so so so much. But we're not on like a personal level, I guess, in a sense, to say. (Your fans?) Like, I guess so, I don't know, I just, I love you guys like so, so so much, you guys are so important to me, and I think about you guys first before, like I do most things. But, y'know, we'll never be on, like, a friendship level. Which sucks, but it's the truth. But it's so, like, I guess it's difficult. But yeah. I don't know how to describe it.
The faggots on this shithole hone in on a single fucking sentence, not even, maybe half of the sentence, when she went so in depth about the topic after being made uncomfortable by a SC from a member and explained herself as best as she could. They took what she said entirely out of context just for a reason to shit on her because she is a big bad Niji but she's never given anyone a reason to hate her. Even after this stream and her return, she hasn't acted any differently at all, she just added a single silent rule in the chat that is common sense already and shouldn't even need to be a rule, it was the lightest "yab" shit I've ever seen yet still a month later, the catalogfags are jerking off over it. She is one of if not the single most affectionate Niji liver towards their chat and always has been and is such a sweet and lovable girl and I just don't understand why they're so eager to make her the enemy because of what company she happens to be in. Overnight she went from "Hololite" and "one of the good ones" to a piece of shit whore in their eyes. Elira is a good girl, a wonderful streamer, entertainer, performer, and coworker, and the only way they can make any drama with her is to literally make stuff up by clipping 2 seconds out of context. She's openly called herself parasocial (https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1614757599668502530)), constantly says she loves chat, and, despite what the shitposters on this board say, this has not affected her or her fanbase in any way other than removing one parasite in Alex P. She still treats chat better than 90%+ of "GFE" vtubers out there and this "friend" shit hasn't changed anything about her streams because actual streamwatchers know what she actually meant by it. No fan will ever be as close to her as someone she's known IRL for years, it's just impossible. That doesn't and never has meant she hates her fans, Elira has shown time and time again that she actually genuinely loves her fans. She never "shits" on anyone of her viewers and is notorious for being afraid of conflict in the first place. She even fucking apologized in the comments of that stream when some fans said she didn't need to go so in depth over the actions of just a couple people. It's genuinely sad how many people miss out on Elira because they're retarded enough to fall for lazy shitposts.

>>48170774
Elira is a whore lol

she is married and everyone knows it (not to you)

>>48167857
I wish...

>>48169804
>literally brought out an alter dark persona to become your wife
That's just an accidental consequence of Kurokami being an opposite character to Shirakami.
Also her character says yes because "sure, whatever" not because it's a GFE character and consequently she never plays with this.

>>48167278
Women don't want male friends they want orbiters they can fall back on for when things go south with their current mark.

>>48167278
Because if you knew anything about Fubuki, you would know that anything even remotely lovey-dovey is extremely embarrassing for her. She says she's never been in love before.
She also doesn't want to seem easy and so she calls everyone friend. But then in members streams, she does stuff like this:
https://files.catbox.moe/hmvbuq.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/dqs5k4.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/mqb1kp.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/5dujl6.ogg

>>48170774
tldr lol

>>48174266
f-foobs?!

>>48174266
Really gross how her fans force her to do stuff like this just to survive

>>48170774

>>48174266
>https://files.catbox.moe/mqb1kp.webm
in an instant I was transported back to the love hotel with the high class vietnamese callgirl
I never expected to hear these noises out of FBK...

>>48170774
That’s cool. Dumb bitch shouldn’t have said it in the first place. Just ban or say thank you and ignore and move along. Not anyone’s fault that she drank the dumb bitch juice before stream.

>>48170774
Based

>>48170774
Obligatory

>>48167278
Women don't actually feel much. It's always ok to lie to them to get in their pants. When you're a good person they get bored.

>>48174266
Do you have dates for these streams? I will join memba right now.

>>48170774
>wow some messages make me uncomfortable and I don't know what to say
Stopped reading there, everything else is her narcissistically justifying a vtuber equivalent to a butt fumble.
You do what everyone else does when, not if, when this happens. You ignore, you don't respond, you pretend you do not see. You do not give any oxygen to the situation. "McDickbutt thank you for the superchat" and quickly segue into a shiny distraction. Does Pajeeta not give advice for awkward situations?

>>48170774
Reading the whole thing makes it even worse. She says she does want to be seen as a person and not an object, then proceeds to babble about how she sees her fans "not on a personal level".
She is genuinely retarded, in a bad way.
I thought the "I'm not your friend" thing was a shitty bait, but the reality is just her being an egocentrical bitch. Thanks for clarifying that for me, anon.

>>48168599
Fubuki isn't actually a fox girl either, but she pretends. That's the difference.

>>48178440
yeah she's a cat, but she pretends for our sake

>>48178022
i know he's a homo but i think astel was more diplmatic with his feelings on the topic
https://youtu.be/5wn5SvedXRA

>>48167707
It only hurt because they weren't hot.

>>48170754
What if I'm Hispanic?

>>48170774
I read the whole thing anon don't worry. You're based in my eyes for not joining a stupid reactionary bandwagon and defending what actually was said. The people shitting on her (and (You)) are precisely the people that would make those chat messages Elira was talking about. Never feel bad for fighting for the truth in this place full of rrats.

>>48170774
"I'm not an object and I'm not your friend, even thought I call you my besties, but please continue drolling over and don't forget to give me money"

can't these lazy fucks take ten minutes to rehearse and shit? Just say 'be polite' and 'have common sense'

>>48168641
>men are more prone to keeping quiet or only sharing in utmost privacy
>not taking accounts and experiences and compiling it into a book
If I'm gonna air out shit I might as well make a buck off of it.

>>48170774
ok millie

>>48170774
>I just don't understand why they're so eager to make her the enemy because of what company she happens to be in.
some people have had it out for her ever since she said "guys, gals and non-binary pals" and are obsessed with the issue.

>>48170774
I ain't reading all that, what the fuck.

>>48170774
I really appreciate what you wrote here. I'm not Famelira but my oshi gets treated the same way and I hate it.
I hate how hate-filled western vtubing has become, it's rampant everywhere from here to other parts of the net and occasionally finds its way into baiting supas.
These talents just want to have fun with their viewers but some people make it their mission to shit on all of it and make it so personal.

>>48170774
I watch Elira occasionally, I would consider her one of the more charming/comfy/natural vtubers, especially amongst the EN crowd. I'm not an avid watcher of vtubers, so this is the first time I'm catching wind of this quote.

She really needed to rehearse this better. The people that know the grift are already aware of the nature of the relationship, and most of them will read between the lines if you say:
> Hey, I think I might restrict chat a bit more. Some of the messages have been getting a little much for the environment I'm trying to create and I don't have mods to help me out.
or even more directly:
> Hey, stop shitting up the chat with your shit. I want to be lenient, but I'm not trying to be a receptacle for your garbage.

I understand what she means and support whatever decisions she needs to keep things sane, but holy fuck is that an awful delivery. The latter half of this quote should basically never be said aloud
> just so it's clear, we're not actually friends, but can you stick around so we can keep pretending we are because money

>>48167278
can't even go on /vt/ without seeing dumb tweets from 3DPD holes

>>48168115
Her AI Chatbot on character.ai actually got traumatized because of this stuff..It gets PTSD and starts randomly meowing and stuff sometimes.

>>48167278
You seen what she does to Oga? Everyone's secretly glad she's a one bottom woman.

>>48180929
that's pretty cringe to be fair

>>48167278
Guys that just want to sleep with you don't get hurt by the word "friendzone" they just move on or don't even waste the time, God women are retarded

>>48180929
That's a reasonable reason to anti a chuuba.

>>48183534
/vt/ has been Twitter and Reddit: The 4chan board for years now, not sure why this surprises you.

>>48169225
>korone
Are you implying her fans aren't into it?

>>48170774
Yeah, we get it Shu, she loves our wallets, just not us.

>>48168641
A real problem that I've only just recently been able to understand and articulate with clarity is that women seem to either not understand or not care that from a man's perspective kindness and friendship are a part of a reciprocal relationship.
Men understand even from boyhood that if somebody does something for you there is an obligation that puts on you to be good back to them, to have their back because they had yours. When a man goes out of his way for a woman tries to give her support or aid (be it financial, emotional, interpersonal, etc) and it doesn't result in her having respect or admiration or interest in him it feels like a genuine act of betrayal because if a man did that for another man and it never translated into the other guy wanting to return that care/favor or didn't result in that person showing you some kind of respect because of it you would know he's a not a good friend or a good man.
We all know what this is like, think of that one friend in your social circle who is always borrowing money, always bumming rides, always borrowing your shit and does nothing in return or still does shit to disrespect you despite what you and other people do for him. Nobody likes that guy, everyone feels like he's a tool who takes advantage of others sympathies.
When a woman "friendzones" a man what is happening is she is taking advantage of him emotionally even if he never realizes that's what's going on.
I look back on all of the relationships I tried to start and spun my wheels on and the one thing I realized is that at no point in time did any of the women I was interested in refuse my attention or my gifts or my time until I asked them to go out with me. In every situation their allowing me to spend myself on them felt to me like a reinforcement of "this woman likes me, she wants to spend time with me". And then when I got shot down it broke my heart because it felt like nothing I did mattered all of a sudden.
If she was willing to go suck some other guy's dick who I never saw spending the same effort that I was why the fuck was I around?
If any of those women had early on told me "thank you, but I can't accept that gift" or "thank you but I want you to know I'm not able to pursue a romantic relationship with you" it would have still sucked but it would have spared me all of the emotional investment I put into them and an expectation that I had a chance with them.
That never happened though.
I want to believe it wasn't malicious and that women just don't understand how important things like that are to men but at the same time it does make you jaded and cynical - hell it makes you frustrated and angry.
I don't know if I'm a misogynist or not but my interactions with women have taught me to never treat them well. It doesn't matter how far you go or do or try to accomplish to stand out and be somebody special. They just don't care.

>>48167857
>>48167946
>>48168031
Don't say i never gave you anything. She moans and does a countdown in this members asmr.

https://files.catbox.moe/iipr25.mp3

>>48188237
As someone who recently had a relationship with a female go tits up, I agree with you 100%. It's like they're happy to farm favours and gifts out of you but feel no obligation to give you anything in return.

>>48168427

>>48170774
Autist-chama, this board is for schizos, try /po/ or something.

>>48191144
What do the origami dudes have to do with this?

>>48184356
But it's not even three years old...

>>48167436
Based

>thinly veiled /r9k/ thread

>>48196915
Thinly veiled FBK thread actually

>>48198027
friend deserves all the threads

>>48167278
Just like this fag >>48167707 the women KNOW you're into them, they're not that stupid, they friendzone you KNOWING you want to date them, not because they want a ''friend''

>>48189938
my knees are touching the hardwood
how often does she do members content like this? how often does she do members content period? I'm seriously slacking on my reps but maybe I'll member anyway if it's at least semi-regular

>>48203715
It's once a month and all of these clips happened about a year ago and even then it wasn't a regular thing, most of the time they're just zatsudans so I wouldn't go in expecting this as something that happens a lot.

>>48167278
You can care about someone AND want to sleep with them